Skip Bayless Has Finally Worn Out His Welcome

[@Dtown1996]

I find better sports content on KZbin.

[@massmayh3m]

Facts

[@robertwelch7513]

@@Dtown1996 100%

[@jennyanydots2389]

I find it easier to talk about my emotional problems and stds on this channel in particuluar. Flemlo knows what he's talmbout when raps about herpes and burritos and shit dawg.

[@NotNykoh]

@@jennyanydots2389Bro what😂😂

[@he-mansuncle7661]

@@jennyanydots2389what 😂

[@JamaalNoland]

EVERYONE making videos on this topic and I haven't clicked on any of them until NOW. Cause I trust that Flemlo gone deliver the story the way it's supposed to be told. Thank you in advance

[@FlemLoRaps]

Means alot bro🙏🏾

[@DeeDeeDeeStudios]

I’ll second that shit because there just ain’t nobody better on KZbin in my opinion Flemlo always does his research and gets the most accurate information and delivers it without bias. No doubt my favorite KZbinr of all time!

[@17thN.O]

Same here. He went through the whole history that I was grown when watching it happen but these young people and revisionist talk about this. I was around when "PTI" and "Around The Horn" and it's original host Max Kellerman first started I was in college in 2001 and I remember Stephen A and Skip on "Nu Skool vs Ol Skool" and when "Cold Pizza", the "1st and 10" segments with Woody Paige and Skip, Jay Crawford, then Dana Jacobson with the rotating cast. Stephen A had his show "Quite Frankly" and appearances on a bunch of ESPN shows then he got fired and banished from TV. Then he ended up on Fox Sports Radio doing a morning show "The Stephen A Smith Show". Then First Take as a show had Skip and Jay Crawford and a rotating cast (2 Live Stews, Rob Parker, Chris Broussard, Ryan Clark, Michael Smith, Jemele Hill, Kordell Stewart). Skip was confronted by Chris Bosh, Chris Carter and then Jalen Rose came on to defend athletes from Skip's insults and called him "Water Pistol Pete Jr." and brought up his fictional high school career where he only averaged 1.4 on the JV team. Then he got Stephen A. to save him then he offered him the job as permanent co-host. So all this Skip made and save Stephen A is overblown. Skip, Stephen A and Shannon (as far as these debate shows) are loud wrong and push false narratives ans are played out.

[@Q50BeastTv]

Real Talk

[@Jfresh2393]

Facts!

[@kenxclout]

I always enjoyed Undisputed more when Skip and Shannon agreed and had more of a discussion than a debate. The debate format is cool but it gets annoying after a while.

[@FlemLoRaps]

Thats a great point bro

[@EJD339]

I felt the same. Near the end, I couldn’t even watch it anymore because 80 percent of the time they were talking about the same thing. I actually loved when they talked about non sports topics.

[@TimeConceptSports]

Facts, I think that's why sports podcats have taken off in the last couple years. People want to hear conversations instead of debating all the time

[@NannaP27]

Same!

[@johnnyslokes2712]

You are part of the problem, you are the reason why people like Skip Bayless exist in the sports world. Yall watch and give him validity when you could easily just not lmao

[@blaxson10]

Im actually happy this happened to mainstream media. Let's have actual meaningful conversations about sports. Not clickbait, narrative driven commentary and shouting matches.

[@jortizu92]

It's still clickbait. It's turned into disingenuous videos trying to stir the pot. Now the only differnece is ownership. I enjoy certain platforms like Behind the Mask, Cut to It and the new 25 and 10. All others try too hard to be media

[@gen-xboomer]

You spelled terrible takes wrong

[@Whysoserious2-2-2]

@@jortizu92 stop crying and appreciate flemlo

[@johndavis9321]

While that does happen let's not also pretend like their aren't numerous sports channels here on KZbin sports blogs even whole websites that aren't all but dedicated too many of the same things you listed

[@Marsonis2ya]

This did nothing to stop the clickbait. Skip just got too old and out of touch to keep doing it.

[@elcee3292]

I was actively avoiding all "Fall of Skip" media and the Flemlo drops. Immediate click😂

[@DoeboyFreshNESS]

Lets not forget about these shows talking about the same topics day after day. Like, Lebron and Cowboys.

[@ebgreenham]

Don’t forget the Lakers. “Lake show life” “how does this affect LeBron’s legacy?”

[@Blackmegagun]

How is this comment going to affect LeBron's legacy?

[@jb3thegreatest623]

This is deff the problem with undisputed, even when sharpe was on, that’s all they did all day everyday. Shit became stale.

[@thelastbobcat4913]

😅 skip Bayless Michael jordan lebron "debate " talk about who's the goat

[@JM-md4ri]

it was obvious thats all skip could talk about. if other topics were brought up he didnt know much he only cared about the cowboys. even when other teams or players were the topic a lot of the time he would connect it to the cowboys or tom brady somehow. another reason why i didnt care to listen to him

[@robertwelch7513]

FLEMLO!!!! I get excited everytime you drop!!!! Been riding for 7 years now

[@FlemLoRaps]

Man that's whatsup bro. I appreciate it dude🙏🏾

[@he-mansuncle7661]

I don’t consider it a downfall at age 73. He was a pioneer for the masses, but nothing lasts forever. Feelings got hurt and he was pushed out of ESPN.

[@z2ei]

This. He's been around forever and made a *ton* of money.

[@emilefragz1885]

It's just a less graceful fall off. He probably A. Wanted to retire but was under contract or B. Holding on for too long. Most likely B knowing Skip.

[@evanthompson4186]

​@emilefragz1885 it was definitely B. He's said before outright that his career came first. He said this to his wife and talked about it publicly. His identity is tied to his career so it doesn't matter the money or anything like that. He can't retire because his entire being and self identity is wrapped up in his career. So I'd imagine he'll soon be pursuing some other venture. Probably will until he takes his last breath for better or worse.

[@johndavis9321]

Exactly I really don't have as much of an issue with skip as others do and all things considered he had a solid career

[@beach_boy1141]

Nah this a downfall because of how he going out. Bro going out sad.

[@bonelesspizza]

Seeing Betterhelp sponsorships going around again reminds me how quickly the wrongs companies do are forgotten about when they just go silent for a while. I hate the internet lol. Good video as always. Can't fault you too much for trying to make money on KZbin, I just hate it when it's the scummy companies that are getting exposure.

[@mrcooterman]

I really thought FlemLo would be above a company like betterhelp, sad to see

[@TyaColo]

Hey Flemlo, first of all great video as usual. Thanks for everything you do. As someone who respects you as a human based off what I see in your videos, I had to bring BetterHelp up man. Obviously we want you to get the bag but BetterHelp has a long history of predatory behavior toward their customers, stealing personal data to sell it, and hiring people unequipped to perform the service of therapy. From what I know of you, you’re better than to take money from people like that at the cost of your subscribers. Please stop taking them as a sponsor. There are ways to spread the positive message of therapy without supporting a known terrible company that takes advantage of its users that are by definition at-risk. They prey on people who are letting their guard down and trusting their service. Hope you have a good day man and thanks again for the vids

[@cl8wnm5n]

Took the words out of my mouth

[@BeastOfMetal1989]

Couldn't have said it better myself (or even half as good, to be honest).

[@newyardleysinclair9960]

Who cares. It's on you if that's how you seek therapy. In such a haphazard, worthless way. Says more about you

[@BeastOfMetal1989]

@@newyardleysinclair9960 It's about creators not selling the most vulnerable parts of their audience down the river, not whether or not it's a bad idea to trust a creator sponsorship in the first place. Whether or not you think the people who do use FlemLo's code are "inferior" for doing so, some portion of his audience is going to do that. If BetterHelp didn't think they could extract sign ups (and their data to sell to advertisers), they wouldn't be throwing the largest bags of money they possibly could at these guys. What we're asking for is that these creators look at the company, not just the number of zeroes on the checks. For what it's worth, Brandon Perna only needed one video (with a backlash-laden comment section) to realize the BetterHelp ad was a bad idea and drop them.

[@trashcangus]

Flem. Better Help doesn't use real liscenced professionals and steals your personal data on the app. Do not support them please. I left the video, still love you bro

[@johnselwitz5362]

I support FlemLo but I agree, BetterHelp is absolutely horrible and fraudulent, there’s so many better resources available to people who need that kind of help, resources with legitimate trained professionals

[@Calvin1991yadigg]

When you told the story about skip’s childhood i got CHILLS…. I get it now. Sometimes understanding a person is half the battle

[@rpiazza72]

The most sincere I have ever seen Skip Bayless is when he talked about his brother the famous chef Rick Bayless. That's also the only time I ever liked Skip Bayless,

[@AceManning18]

He actually seems like a human being when he's talking about his brother, or wife.

[@rpiazza72]

@@AceManning18 yes he’s thoughtful and reflective, unlike his careless and blowhard sports persona.

[@Cartwright21215]

Or the black lady who took care of him growing uo

[@AceManning18]

@@Cartwright21215 yep

[@jgray2718]

I had no idea Rick was Skip's brother. I love Rick Bayless! I watch his KZbin videos and make his recipes all the time!

[@faba6753]

Bro - your sports / media commentary is absolutely what's needed in today's landscape. I pray you get the HUGE platform you deserve MINUS all the bullshit trappings of corporate capitalism

[@SlingstoneGiantKiller]

Wisdom, nuance... Everything I've come to expect from this channel. Just half way through and I just had to let you know how much we appreciate you and your work!

[@slylancey]

I learned that Skip really wanted to be a professional athlete growing up, but didnt have the tangibles necessary to do so, but his English teacher saw his skill at writing and puhsed him to go forward with that. I believe that played a massive part into why he's so eclectic in his debates. He wants to be like Tom Brady and Michael Jordan so bad, but he couldn’t so he channels that frustration through Sports Journalism instead

[@mrmajinsr]

Yeah guys like him and SAS had hoop dreams, v you can tell it when the hot certain takes and those topics come up.

[@garyfields3744]

😐

[@CoffeeFresh_]

I agree. I can't decide if that's a bad, or thing a good thing. Or just a thing

[@newyardleysinclair9960]

Okay? That's bad. How???

[@newyardleysinclair9960]

He accepted he didn't have the talent and went in a diff direction that still kept him linked to the sports world. Thats a win in my book

[@ashleyjade5607]

I first started getting into football in 2016. Naturally, as I was learning about the sport and the league, I looked for football media to watch. Very quickly I got incredibly tired of the debates that were more about winning than the subject and the constant hot takes for the sake of clicks and views whether those takes are valid and backed up or not. It took until I started finding creators online who went at things from a different angle to really fall in love with football the way I have now. I found guys like you, Tom Grossi, Brett Kollman, KTO, That Franchise Guy, and I could go on and on. They all fill different niches within this space and they can all be entertaining and insightful. And hell, it can also just be nice to watch some debates about football and disagreements, that dont turn into a screaming match lmao. Just talking ball and trying to back it up with a solid argument. And they can also admit when they're wrong. That's why I almost never watch mainstream sports media anymore lol

[@samuelmartinez3201]

Bot

[@ashleyjade5607]

@@samuelmartinez3201 ikr

[@samuelmartinez3201]

@@ashleyjade5607 😆 lol.

[@DoubleSSG]

How old are you lol

[@ashleyjade5607]

@@DoubleSSG 20 lol

[@elijahbowens3330]

The fact that I’d rather watch a KZbin video talking about traditional sports media rather than actually watch said sports media, speaks volumes

[@Dis_broad_loud_in_every_movie]

That boy Femlo be doing some next level research. Be going ALL the way back and give you history you never heard of 🤣

[@realChewky]

I love how even and balanced your reviews are. It's so refreshing and impossible to even argue with. Awesome

[@lro001]

Dude is speaking facts right now….I’m just here soaking in this knowledge.

[@jennyanydots2389]

Sea men is what I'm soakin' in brugh

[@lro001]

@@jennyanydots2389🤦🏾‍♂️

[@TranceMasterJack]

🏳️

[@chrisgibson2106]

Great video analysis. It's interesting you pointed out Skip's childhood and especially the way he was treated by his parents. He also has an episode on his podcast talking about how him and his brother Rick aren't close at all and that he barely knows him, even though they they slept in bunk beds their whole upbringing. It's clear he has issues with understanding and knowing how to truly love others.

[@bpnation37]

What you said about Nick actually having nuanced takes that he can logically defend even if he's wrong is so important. All the "i said what i said" people on the internet can take a page from his book. It's refreshing to watch someone who understands how to construct a coherent argument.

[@goldenageofdinosaurs7192]

I despise people that won’t admit when they’re wrong. I’ve never understood why that’s such a big deal, but it obviously is to a lot of folks. It’s not a good way to live & it’s certainly not a good way for people to emulate

[@johndavis9321]

​@@goldenageofdinosaurs7192when it comes to folks who can never admit when their wrong it's more often than not a pride thing to actively admire you were wrong about something you have to display a level of contrition and most people are to prideful/arrogant to do that this gets amplified when your a "media member" or nowadays on the Internet a "content creator" and have the expectation of being well informed and having all or most of the facts on the situation your speaking about

[@Kings0424]

That heated between Skip and Shannon, I already knew that this was the final straw for Shannon to leave Undisputed. For Skip to bash Shannon on live TV trying to make him feel so small is embarrassing and other thing about this, for Skip to be a grown ass man defending and glazing over another grown ass man is insane work. I'm not gonna say that Skip doesn't deserve to lose his job but ar the same time, he has no one to blame but himself

[@ChavoeTV]

Yea I watched it live and said this is over, skip kept getting more personal and never did anything on the field or court 😭😭

[@drinfernodds]

​@ChavoeTV trying to diminish the accomplishments of a HOFer and Super Bowl winner is one of the lowest things a media personality could do. That and try to accuse Troy Aikman of being gay in a book (Bayless actually did this)

[@Kings0424]

@drinfernodds Which is stupid because Aikman has 2 daughters and a wife so yeah

[@TheKing8608_]

I’ll never forget that morning it was cold and snowing and had just made my first batch of coffee and sat down around that part and my mouth immediately dropped. I was shocked for a few minutes but I wasn’t surprised because they had a few close encounters where you could tell Shannon was getting annoyed with skip a few occasions years earlier

[@Kings0424]

@@TheKing8608_ Yeah true

[@yoowuzgud]

This is quality insight. Best video on this topic by far

[@MinisterChristopher]

“….and mainstream sports media.” Is what I’m here for. Love it. Was just thinking about this on the mainstream news level with the “political” climate. Say what you want, but some folks at the top definitely saw this coming and kept it going. Thanks for playing yo part in it Flem, been watching for years. All I know of what is going on with mainstream sports now is from internet alternative media, just like politics.

[@kflow1379]

Idk why the algorithm won't prop this man's channel up more. The content is as good or better than anyone.

[@JonPITBZN]

'cause his show doesn't have three J-school grads yelling at him

[@beautyonabarnbudget]

People forget that “Hate Watching “ is a thing.

[@Capri_00]

It why that cartoon called Velma was popular. Guilty pleasure….like watching a train crash. Horrible but you can’t stop watching.

[@ninergang1881]

Yea I would watch lakers just to see lebron lose, I watch Mcgregor hoping he loses cause I hate him lol.

[@themastermind2517]

please look into better help and stop using them as a sponsor

[@mars7304]

​@@SeanMurphy9343 lol no you don't, you ALWAYS have a choice. Take accountability or admit the morals aren't that important to you

[@BirdsBeersBarbells]

@@mars7304 you can stop watching, instead of crying and talking bad about someone providing for their family

[@CaleebTalib]

@@BirdsBeersBarbellsscammers gotta feed their families too

[@antcantcook960]

@@mars7304wut

[@charleshall3047]

I really appreciate your dive into the person and the things that mold them. Our past truly does affect us. Much respect flemlo💪🏽✊🏽

[@comicsunblock]

sports content went down the drain when they started prioritizing viral clips over intelligent discussions. so sad man.

[@johndavis9321]

Big facts

[@Capri_00]

@@comicsunblock yeah but you would too if those viral clips made yourself big money.

[@comicsunblock]

@@Capri_00 nah, i have integrity and money isn’t everything in life🤣

[@Capri_00]

@@comicsunblock maybe not to you. But when you have a company to run and employees to pay. You do what you have to do. The you have bosses above you who want more and more.

[@JonPITBZN]

Sports content went down the drain when they started prioritizing studio shows over showing actual sports. But I'm old.

[@RamonSanchez-h7r]

Ever since I found your channel it has been the go to for sports related content. I appreciate how you look at sports topics and stories from an objective and unbiased perspective

[@josay3394]

brother do not put that company as a sponsor. They were ousted for using peoples info and other personal data and selling it. So they can use said information on ads that would only make your mental wellbeing in a bad state. that way you go back to their site and pay for their service and repeat

[@Deflymufc]

No offense but your search history on KZbin isn't that safe either.

[@isaacsmith5395]

Almost at a million flemlo, keep grinding my g, been a fan of yours since the beginning

[@Mr_Tez20]

I remember the good old days from 2014-2019. In college I would go to the study room and do homework and watch First Take after my morning class. When I got my first corporate job, I would listen to Stephen A show and First Take on Apple Podcasts everyday on the way home from work. Everything back then felt organic in Sports Media. Now everything is gimmicks and unnecessary takes that have nothing to do with the game. KZbin is the way to go now if you want that real.

[@johndavis9321]

For the most part I agree with you but I think us as sports fans do need to acknowledge their is still a lot of garbage sports channels here on KZbin dudes who push narratives, blatantly lie on players, coaches, etc. And engage in hot takes jus to try and get views so in certain ways it's better here in other ways it isn't

[@MrRyan-wu4jx]

You were too young for the good old days. 2014-19 is not the good old days for this.

[@rongsc1]

Man! all these years! you are still putting out high quality videos. And most importantly, breaking down your points to a level that anyone can understand. Even people who disagree can appreciate your great arguments. Keep up the good work!

[@rickyrichreacts9667]

I was never a fan of skip and Shannon. I loved watching Stephen a and skip tho in the early 2010s

[@Lexlugr]

Speaking of providing value, I'm floored at how Flem is able to put together cogent, clear and easy to follow breakdowns about major sports topics in only a few minutes- somthing that large shows cannot seem to do with all their resource backing. Please-Never change, bro.

[@ExiILe00]

Me:(trying to read the eye chart) My doctor:”Put your glasses back on!”

[@jennyanydots2389]

Good comment fellow human

[@TJDILLA111]

Man I been watching flemlo since before covid back around when he dropped that vid ab Arian foster taking on a wolf, you’re content just gets better and better

[@blaqunity]

Flemo, you wrong for calling Skip "Water Pistol Pete!" 😂😂😂😂 But you right at the same time! 😂😂😂😂😂

[@Chuck_EL]

Much respect to my boy Chris Bosh coming up with that too 😂😂

[@johndavis9321]

Man y'all some haters

[@Dasmoose15]

Jalen Rose did it 1st.

[@grinningchicken]

Bayless creating the most popular sports talk format and continuing on until 73 is impressive. But of course the Springeresque negativity was going to catch up sooner or later.

[@johndavis9321]

Yup anything built on hating or trolling is only gonna be able to go for so long

[@ChairmanMo]

Look at his KZbin channel and Podcast where he talks about his family and Rick Bayless. If let's suppose five or six years Skip had that more human side of him and pulled back on his hot takes and trolling he would still be on TV.

[@johndavis9321]

@@ChairmanMo trolling and hot takes are basically what made him him bro at least his TV personality pretty much none of the core fanbase of first take/undisputed would have cared or wanted to see a humble more "human" skip Bayless

[@ChairmanMo]

@johndavis9321 Just to clarify, Skip was doing the same thing too many times and he should have mellowed out and mixed it up to stay fresh. That was the issue.

[@johndavis9321]

@@ChairmanMo I just think skip kinda aged out he's been doin the TV thing for the better part of 2 decades no matter how much you try to change up the formula or try to add new ingredients to the recipe eventually you just have to come to the realization that the game has passed you by I think no matter what skipped tried to do he was going to have to leave sooner or later cause the whole debate show/ hot take sport show has lost a lot of steam over the years due to the rise of the Internet sports podcast presided over by current and former players etc. I understand what your sayin I jus think Skip's downfall at least on TV was inevitable

[@chrisdavis4945]

Undisputed was destroying First Take and skip threw it in the trash to defend Tom Brady

[@TerranceFoster-kw4sw]

Keep it up Flemo been watching you for a long while bro 🙏🏾✊🏾✊🏾✊🏾🔥

[@karlarrington5362]

The piece you put in about Skip's parents was interesting. It reads like that was a toxic household, but it produced two individuals well know in their respective fields. Skip and his brother Rick, an award winning chef.

[@JorgeGarcia-lr3vk]

Yeah. Rick is the polar opposite of Skip. Rick is so chill.

[@johndavis9321]

Yeah absolutely I remember skip mentioning that despite being married that is why he didn't want children because he didn't want to turn into his father

[@christopherallen5603]

You made a great point about your 'take' only being as strong as your evidence to back it up, which is worth noting that it's pretty apparent everyone's on air talent has their side of each topic predetermined for them by the bosses in pre-production before they even show up for work.

[@nicholasalexander9866]

I really want other sports KZbinrs such as Flemo, KTO, Low, Rusty, FunkyDiabetic, Kenny and others to be on these shows and actually show them stats, information and other things. So many times they have spread misinformation on people and players, and flat out lied that it’s beyond ridiculous. It’ll be funny seeing the media be challenged not only with facts, but with the KZbinrs being calm while doing it

[@shadowb1ade627]

kot4q does it sometimes for basketball but yes i agree with you for sure

[@ashtonoak4370]

Chisled Adnois as well.

[@Chuck_EL]

Skap attack too

[@jojijoestar7233]

UTree does it for hockey sometimes

[@johndavis9321]

Shouts out a funky diabetic

[@rdottwordottwo2286]

I didn’t wanted to see the present format on tv. FlemLo was very informative and straightforward! Nice channel!!!

[@Spongebrain97]

It should be noted that Cowboys fans have never liked or defended Skip Bayless. We dont claim him or his stupidity

[@CoachDoug100]

Hmmmm. Born and raised in Dallas, just a fan of football, I detect lies here 🤔

[@johndavis9321]

Lol yes because you random KZbin commentor were given the illustrious title of president of the Dallas fan coalition by the honorable Jerry Jones himself foh

[@Spongebrain97]

@johndavis9321 you can't really find Cowboys fans who actively liked Skip Bayless or even brought him up in conversation about the team. And his name is totally absent on most of the big Cowboys youtubers and radio hosts connected to the team. Again like practically nobody ever cared about him or liked him.

[@Billy_Supreme]

​@@randombutrelevant😂😂😂😂..... yall STILL butt hurt, GET OVER IT Dak OWNS your franchise😂😂😂

[@johndavis9321]

@@Spongebrain97 you realize your description describes probably about 95 98% of cowboys fans who don't have a major platform right?!?! Do y'all not claim them either?

[@chandler__2152]

Lets get this man to 1 million! So greatly deserved! Thanks for all your hard work on these great videos bro!

[@tommyfraz.]

I think the biggest issue with Skip is when he realized he created a persona, he tried to live up to the that persona. Skip used to have insane hot takes, but would attempt to back it up with off the wall stats. “Tebowmania” is when Skip stopped with stats and trying to back up his takes, and instead played a character and used the “my gut tells me” to defend his words.

[@b7h934]

Or the “Heart of Hearts “ phrase 😂😂😂

[@843Bobinator]

You’ve always been one of my favorite KZbinrs, but your content in the last 2-3 months has been killing it bro!

[@tjayd1225]

They were good for THEIR era. 2010-2016. But nowadays you can find better content on KZbin easily & ppl get tired of that same ol hate on a dude for no reason shtick. It’s one thing to give valid push back backed by data and stats, but the blind hate & screaming just got old

[@ryanayers5692]

Your takes are A1. Well informed and well articulated.

[@romain8390]

Shannon is not the type of dude to laugh at skips downfall, but rest assured the rest of us in the sports fandom will laugh on Shannon’s behalf😂😂😂

[@deadspacedbz1438]

tbh skip “ won “ he 72 been in the public eye for 50 plus years he might as well retire

[@johndavis9321]

I mean skip has made a lot of money be at it since the 80's and gets to retire comfortably with lots of money and a tangible (albeit controversial) legacy I wouldn't necessarily call that a downfall also who is us exactly?? I'm not laughin at all I'm happy skip sees the writing on the wall and is getting out the game before it's too late as opposed to trying to hang on too long and make an absolute fool of himself

[@romain8390]

@@johndavis9321 I knew it would be some people responding with “well he’s got a lot of money, so he’s fine!” Listen, I’m not wealthy, but to the people I’ve spoken with who do make good money, they’ve always said in one way or another that if you have money, but we don’t have relationship, you will always be miserable. If you’re somebody like Skip, you have no kids, you’ve got a wife, you’ve got a ton of money, but you damaged your relationships, you’re always gonna end up being unhappy in the end. If a man thinks that money and success is what matters, he’ll spend life chasing it, stepping on people who could’ve helped him further, like Shannon, and whether or not he gets it, he’ll spend his life missing out and how fulfilling it could have been. I’m just grateful that I’m learning those lessons and now before I’m even 30. There’s a lesson in not deliberately destroying your relationship for the sake of ratings, for the sake of success.

[@livennlearn]

@@johndavis9321I agree with your entire point except for the fact that skip is getting out. Read up on just how bad undisputed is doing. He’s not getting out. His show has tanked and it’s over. He’s not leaving on his own terms. It’s a loss and you best believe he too sees it that way.

[@romain8390]

@@johndavis9321 I knew it would be some people responding with "well he's got a lot of money, so he's fine!" Listen, I'm not wealthy, but to the people l've spoken with who do make good money, they've always said in one way or another that if you have money, but we don't have relationship, you will always be miserable. If you're somebody like Skip, you have no kids, you've got a wite, you've got a ton of money, but you damaged your relationships, you're always gonna end up being unhappy in the end. If a man thinks that money and success is what matters, he'll spend life chasing it, stepping on people who could've helped him further, like Shannon, and whether or not he gets it, he'll spend his life missing out and how fulfilling it could have been. I'm just grateful that I'm learning those lessons and now before l'm even 30. There's a lesson in not deliberately destroying your relationship for the sake of ratings, for the sake of success.

[@coreythompsonTheOneandOnly]

I respect you and i always love 💕 to hear your thoughts, i feel like you're a far away friend who i always gotta check in on every few weeks just to make sure you stay you, stay true and you're doing the great work you do. Chicago Illinois rocks with you. Cleveland rocks and Flemlo rocks

[@Blazekip]

It sucks with how sports are being talked about from the big shows, the only one that actually does it good enough is inside the nba. It is the only thing now that I don’t want to be on my phone when it’s on, it will be a sad day for basketball when the last show airs

[@Chuck_EL]

I also like Jeff and Mark on ESPN on NBA It was so awesome to hear legit basketball conversations Inside the NBA had a good mix of actual basketball analysing and barbershop cut ups it's why it was such a mainstream draw for even casuals

[@RealMikeGibbs]

I was hoping you’d cover this brother! Great stuff as always! 💯✊🏻

[@Gimpy17]

I stopped watching First Take when Kellerman was kicked off. Stephen A is cancerous, I only watch Get Up now.

[@Extinguisher10]

FlemLo = Ruth's Chris

[@Blake-y2k]

FlemLo is so insightful, he decided to analyze why we watch him.

[@jennyanydots2389]

Skip Bayless gots flemlo is his back pocket son. Skip bankrolls this channel and approves and edits every script flemlo comes up with.

[@everettdouglas2326]

This was one of your best videos yet!

[@jonathanhampton8379]

Immediately clicked on this lol.

[@jennyanydots2389]

Sheeple tend to do that son

[@jonathanhampton8379]

@@jennyanydots2389 you right. I don’t mind showing my appreciation and support to content/people I subscribe to. I still have a mind of my own to discern the content I digest in case you’re concerned about my sheep-like behavior. I appreciate the troll though, good use of your time.

[@aaronconners5570]

Lovedddd this Flemlo is the best sports KZbin content creator

[@trueempire8948]

Skip and Stephen A on First Take was the best nothing has topped it. They had great chemistry the arguments was great funny it just worked.

[@Presecco188]

Knowledgeable, objective, & genuine. That’s what makes Flemlo great. Keep doing your thing king

[@Name-vu1kn]

KZbin has shown us that Skip, Shannon, Steven A have no more information than any other person with an internet connection. Channels like Jomby prove that. Steven A hasn’t had an original thought since 1999, just yelling.

[@johndavis9321]

I agree Stephen a does have some relativy poignant takes however

[@andrewcruz1931]

Good to see you again FlemLo !

[@orlandotoussaint6851]

You’re a phenomenal storyteller bro. I’ve told people to view your channel as a template on how to have a Great story telling KZbin channel.

[@grantkistel3411]

Flemlo who real ones go to for sports opinions and genuine conversations

[@jordanfuller8555]

Flemlo is a gifted story teller, always does great research, and gives phenominal opinions backed up by facts. Great video once again!

[@leecee9528]

Great as always Flem

[@Sean-hl4bm]

Great work as usual. That gem about Nick Wright is why I tune in to First Things First. Also, I always appreciate your efforts to find out the "why" behind some of the sports worlds more unique personalities.

[@pam4116]

I rarely ever say a video is well done, but damn. Your analogy was well executed. I enjoyed this. Thanks.

[@rizzoty2009]

Another Gem by Flem lo. It would be cool to see you break threw and have your place on a main stream sports show because the industry would benefit from your craft and the industry would be better for it

[@ericharper6454]

Another great vid man! The way you tell the stories keeps me super intrested. Thank for all the vids dude. P.s one of these big shows should hire you man.

[@jasoncecala757]

I was waiting for this video. I just knew you were going to cover this topic!

[@Matt_215]

Ngl I liked skip imma young man and only started watching him 2 years ago on undisputed. That show was apart of my life. I know he’s 72 but damn I hope he bounces back

[@12thMandalorian]

I would love a FlemLo video on Around The NFL Podcast, it feels perfect for you!

[@Tgunn21]

Great video bro

[@Cold84]

This is such a good video and good insight. When I was young I loved cold pizza, Skip had these very off the wall funny ideas that went completely against the narrative that you don't hear anywhere else that would make you think and Woody Paige was naturally hilarious. I thought at the time it was this less popular gem of a show so it's crazy to me to where people talk about Skip like he is the biggest name in sports talk now. I feel like Woody had this natural don't take this serious vibe that made it more fun, then when Stephen A was added it was like we're just all about arguing. Skip was always like this, even before cold pizza he wrote a few books of his psycho opinions. Then as the internet took over everything you learn how little these guys actually know about sports, they constantly get players wrong, you see one person can't be a commentator like this on literally every sport, they start to seem like characters of themselves rather than what they actually think. ESPN in general just has a disconnect with what works. It feels forced, they shove these unlikable figures down our throats, and don't add anything we don't already know. Now most of the sports content I take in is from fan podcasts, some of these guys know the game extremely well and I've learned so much about football from them that you'd never get from an ESPN show. I think most of these youtuber esc shows also really suck, they don't have personality, they put so little effort into it, but some of these guys have so much personality it is crazy.

[@tashonlittle1362]

I agree with you. The best debate duos were Skip v Shannon & Stephen A v Skip. A large reason why Shannon & Stephen aren’t as good is 1. Shannon isn’t on the show every day. 2. Almost never in the studio 3. They almost always agree on most topics. Even their MJ vs Lebron debate isn’t intriguing

[@jacobball8422]

Still the best Flemlo. I feel bad i havent gone into the new college football game with you. Its just not my jam. But i love youre content man

[@QueQuentillionaire]

Always appreciate your time and respect to the sports genre.!

[@TheChamp1_1]

Been waiting on you to speak on this.

[@mattsmith3835]

Another great video brother. You're One of the best/my favorite KZbin channels. You always talk about putting in the work and you can definitely tell that you do. You do your research, and you write your very good, well researched, well thought out, informative, interesting and entertaining script and always turn that into a great video. I'm always pumped to see when you put out a new vid and always watch it right away no matter what the subject is. Keep up the hard/great work and keep bringing the great content brother 🫡👍 👏 🇺🇸

[@reaperfunkss]

I may not always agrre with you but you are my most respected sports commentator. You always do your research and your logic is unassailable. Thank you for what you do with your channel. Your honesty shows and is appreciated and encouraging that there is intelligent sport talk in the world.

[@jahmirsterling9206]

The way you add a psychological evaluation to sports is unmatched🔥

[@SDPSeanDoesntPlay619]

Such a great take about about whether getting more views is better or not.

[@nachoproblem]

I like the shows that teach you/breakdown the plays. I immediately shut off the arguing shows.

[@MrDenz91]

Ive seen a few people do this topic and of course flemlo version is 10x better 💪🏾 keep going bro

[@MarLikeIt]

32yo here, I definitely remember Cold Pizza & 1st and 10 with Jay Crawford and Dana Jacobson, honestly think that was the best version of the show.

[@sleepycordy1759]

Dude your videos have always been, and continue to be a must watch for me. Even if it's a topic/person I'm not familiar with, your research and ability to convey that information eloquently is just... honestly unmatched in the sports space. Awesome video, as always!

[@oldskool90s]

I don’t think it’s by chance that as their content has spiraled Flem’s has only gotten better and better…and the viewership has followed. Intelligent content 🙌🏽

[@BVonBuescher]

You're proof there is a market for 'X & O's' content..... keep crushing, and digging the new do

[@adensmith8553]

Your going to be one of the very few people that will take the time to try an understand Skip's mindset and give him so level of flowers for what he's done for Sports Media. Skip understand what he was doing more then most gave him credit for. Alot of people tuned in for a long time to watch the heel.

[@Pyrple]

Man one thing I noticed and appreciate in this video and others is that Flemlo doesn't feel the need to make his opinion the last word on a subject. At the end of this video he comes out and says he doesn't like Skip and his antics. Then he reads and retells Skip's childhood purely to come to an understanding. And once he's done with that, he lets the video end. He doesn't need to be like most other KZbinrs and say "...but that still doesn't give him an excuse to..." after telling the other side. He said his opinion once, and that's enough. Really helps these stories feel genuine.

[@johnchedsey1306]

I have never understood the hollering sports shows and was a huge reason I never wanted to pay for cable (and I haven't). It's just not my jam. I prefer the youtube channels

[@Los150]

If it wasn’t for Skip stoking the fire for LeBron hate with ridiculous takes, his career would’ve ended after Cold Pizza. He legit thought he was Howard Cosell.

[@lokey2704]

Well put together piece 💪🏽 keep up the content bro