'Ridiculous': Outrage over Mount Arapiles climbing ban

[@patkelly6349]

Crazy crap. I’m sick of this woke nonsense. Disgraceful

[@dontbeasheeple5883]

Let me guess - the rainbow serpent said no? I bet the rainbow serpent will change his mind once a suitable financial agreement is reached

[@patkelly6349]

Exactly. Another abo rort

[@nelligan5477]

🤣

[@wishbone5785]

Nah get uncle Colin in then everyone will be welcome

[@Timic83tc]

@@wishbone5785 Big merv

[@sunriseboy4837]

🤣🤣🤣

[@TrailerYacht]

Banning climbing on Arapiles ? Unbelievable. This spot offers some of the _VERY_ best rock climbing in the entire world. Go to hell.

[@wishbone5785]

@@TrailerYacht surfing will be banned at bells beach soon

[@badpossum440]

Does anyone remember when Mabo was "not going to affect anyone else"?

[@hardrada8637]

Could you image what they would be getting away with if the "Voice" referendum had been passed?

[@MichaelMarsalek]

Thank f*** that failed

[@Timic83tc]

Look what they are getting away with when we voted No.

[@thomaselliott573]

these sh1ts have a list of targets. They have stated that they will own most of the country

[@Megahegs]

So i was born here, as was the previous 5 generations of my family. At what point will i be deserving of using the land i was born on?

[@64fargo]

Labor is anti youth - this is the place where so many young men and women from all backgrounds learn so much about themselves and their environment with the challenge of Rock Climbing on sites like this in vic. People who make these rules obviously have no or little outdoor experience or care or knowledge of the benefit this pursuit brings in making resilient citizens with a true love of the outdoors.

[@Timic83tc]

They want people inside doing nothing. Since they don't even want them online anymore.

[@speedymccreedy8785]

Is this like the formerly revered indigenous rock art paintings near Sydney that later turned out to contain spray paint?

[@blackg0076]

No NO no , in their two hundred and fifty thousand years they developed all that tech , spray painting included but Cook stole it all when he landed in Botany bay so they would look like savages with no history.

[@user-di8gh5fw6d]

Why is this being tolerated. F them.

[@jackbarnes6929]

We voted a resounding No and it’s like the message is ignored. Clean out these activists who have contaminated every part of government the legal system

[@RaisinBran-ir4iq]

The days of identity politics are numbered. Millions of Americans have turned their backs on this destructive form of racism, sexism and classism. I have nothing but the best wishes for the Australian people (ALL Australians) and hope they stamp out this disease quickly. It's very damaging to the economy and society.

[@thomaselliott573]

well said. No one had this right to sh1t in our faces

[@sunriseboy4837]

It's certainly not dead here. That's precisely why that ban is now in place, and here the 'stupid state', they've just handed over tens of thousands of hectares of domestic surburban land to the black fellas. Identity politics is alive and thriving...which is only to be expected in such a degenerate country like Australia where children in schools are taught suck dicks in school, and women and little kids are being trafficked for sex. Yet politicians are turning themselves inside out for these 'bulltish' woke climbing bans on 'indiginous' sites...FFS?! And like someone said, 'the rainbow serpent' will change its mind IF THE PRICE IS RIGHT!!!

[@gindaburra]

I'm Aboriginal. I welcome ALL surf life saving clubs to Australia. Now either send me $500 or stop falling for our rorts.

[@yggdrasil9039]

This is getting ridiculous. Even most indigenous people don't want this rubbish.

[@Truth-from-Rocks]

That’s right, the main perpetrators are not the indigenous. George Soros destroy nationalism by any means necessary

[@ArtVentriss]

I'm gonna go off topic here for a bit but this Mount Arapiles situation has got me fired up and I need to get this off my chest. Firstly I want to acknowledge the previous custodians of this wide brown land who did absolutely nothing here except dream about flying turtles & albino go-annas and lived out short lives under thatched roofs and knew how to start a bush fire - well done. That aside, in my opinion as someone whose parents who migrated to this country in the 40's, I am thoroughly sick of the "aboriginal" (welfare) industry that has developed over the past 30 or more years. As a group, including those white people who claim ( but wont prove) some miniscule % of indigenosity for the sole purpose of gaining financial benefits, this industry corruptly gains hundreds of millions of dollars EACH year and there appears to be very little to show for it. Why is that? What's even worse, is that even Jacinta Price ( a legit indigenous person) has called on the government numerous times to conduct a thorough audit on where the money is going, yet the government steadfastly refuses- indicating therefore that there must definitely be some high level of corruption going on and they know who's behind it. And why wouldn't there be? The tax payer just keeps on paying. Why would vested interests in the aboriginal welfare industry kill the duck that been laying unending golden eggs? There is ZERO incentive to " fix "anything except in a very tokenistic manner and so it's far, far more lucrative to continuously ensure that there are sufficient "indigenous" ( of any %) living in some socially "deprived" area some 1000 miles from nowhere in Num-num Koonawarra land and so constantly reap the never ending river of $$$$ coming from the taxpayer. I am 100% confident that there are many prominent individuals of both aboriginal and non-aboriginal appearance with fingers and toes in many pies that are fully rorting this never ending gravy train under the guise of this "reconciliation" bullshit. The more idiot governments and their handwringing apologists pander to this industry the more they want. Its never ending. I personally don't give a toss about having "traditional connection" to land. This is the 21 century not 10000 BC. This country needs a leadership to scrap all this rubbish and fully over ride the wanky legal apologists who forever want to feed off this industry. To the aboriginal welfare industry I say this: get off your ass and strive to get your self and your children educated, strive to get a job and a career , strive to join the rest of the population in getting about the business of living instead of languishing about your delusional "traditional heritage" and constantly thinking how bad off you are because the Brits and the Dutch and who knows who else sailed to this country hundreds of years ago and set up their own law and communities actually started to DO something in this mostly vacant country as it was. I frankly don't give a hoot who was here way back then. The way human nations operate, especially back then, if you couldn't defend it, you basically lost it. Sure there was an indigenous presence here but so what? If the Poms and Dutch didn't get here, 100% guarantee that the indigenous would have done nothing in this country except dream about go-annas in the sky and if the Japanese came here instead, there likely would have been NO indigenous people left at all. Leave Mount Arapiles as it is and let the people who use it mostly enjoy it for what it is. And I challenge any flying sky go-anna or invisible ostrich or 1000 yr old deceased chief of the wacknagutnawarabinga region to come and say different.

[@nelligan5477]

Beautifully said.

[@MichaelMarsalek]

Brilliantly said.

[@davepowelldrumz]

100 % correct.

[@rods6405]

Spot On ! So what is Dutton going to do about this! Why dont the media ask him!

[@alancarne8111]

Brilliant!

[@imadogsass6717]

Like the Mt. Warning climbing ban.

[@BobLouden-r9q]

Ban Aboriginals from entering Murwillumbah.😁

[@Noneyabusiness-x7o]

When the country was in covid lockdown, they went through all camping spots, closed public tracks, and now this. When we all decide to go nowhere but just stay home, they lose, and its all designed around some sneaky revenue and fines if people ignore it.

[@ronnorman1409]

Vote Labor, teals and Greens out! Make them last! This wokeness has gone too far and for too long!

[@Robert-xs2mv]

Don’t forget a second believe that the alternative Dutton government will be any different. It is cut from the same cloth!

[@fringedweller5425]

Reverse Mabo

[@timcoller177]

Parks Vic are not to blame - the Allan government are defunding it and using it as a scapegoat for hand our state parks over to indigenous groups

[@MrRatclima]

"Indigenous groups" will ban it, until they wait some time for the tension to settle and they can figure out a way to monetize and monopolize.

[@markalan1two]

someone should go and throw soup on the paintings to protest climate change

[@johnkauppi7078]

Rock art we can't even see? Pointless.

[@gerrycooper56]

How many aboriginal climbers go up these mountains?

[@Sparky210-11]

In over 20 years of Victorian climbing, I have NEVER seen a single Indigenous person in the Grampians and Mt Arapiles connecting with the land or park or even volunteering on track care/park work days. It’s a total joke.

[@gerrycooper56]

@@Sparky210-11 a joke like lots of other schemes.

[@Timic83tc]

0. There are almost none in Victoria. Pure scam

[@gerrycooper56]

@ so how did they find the paintings and sacred site?

[@keithmcwilliams7424]

@@gerrycooper56 zero

[@diggerduckaussie6834]

Well my x husbands family are from Natimuk, his grandfather made the road up to the top. No indigenous rock painting ever found , why 100 years later. Rock climbing is part of the town. And now im asking my 90 year old x farther inlaw.

[@bettymarshall2702]

They have done this in Queensland as well. What you should do is just ignore this rubbish and get a lot of people together to climb where ever you want. FIGHT BACK.

[@wishbone5785]

You just need to get uncle Colin in to help with the climbing.

[@Timic83tc]

Amen.

[@glenn2910]

Its time all this bullshit stopped

[@Docfisher1]

I will be camping where ever i like. Cheers

[@TradArcherDownunder]

Discarded stone chips. Sacred Ancient Aboriginal garbage tip !!!!

[@steventurner8428]

Maybe there shouldn't not be any rock art

[@Truth-from-Rocks]

That’s what’ll end up happening

[@chriscoghlan692]

Soon you won't be able to walk on the local street nature strip.

[@MichaelMarsalek]

Here we go.again. let me guess a rainbow serpent or crying whale. But it'll all go away once a financial settlement is reached. I'm.sick of this woke crap.

[@patrussell8917]

Arrogance & divisive actions within the community for no special reason

[@Timic83tc]

Second tier citizens, all by Labors design

[@firebrand2619]

Ha ha licensed firearm owners have been dealing with this crap for years not very nice when it happens to someone else is it.

[@mickryan2450]

Well said

[@wishbone5785]

Yes since 1996 and west Australian law abiding citizens are being hammered again.

[@mehere8-32]

The Peoples Democratic Socialist Republic of Victoriastan.

[@Timic83tc]

Not all of us were co-erced

[@mehere8-32]

@@Timic83tc Enough said.

[@Mark-m4c4i]

get rid of this woke rubbish

[@utubetrutharrowmichael-and9105]

As an Australian I won't be controlled by overseas interest I'll do it I f****** want

[@cataliaishere]

Welp that's another holiday destination scrapped for me. What country towns actually want tourists to keep their little places alive??

[@Timic83tc]

Nowhere in Australia. Time to move

[@sergeant5848]

FFS

[@rvrski1]

Bad laws are not only made to be ignored but to identify bad law makers so they can be removed.

[@MB-gs7pk]

Ignore it.

[@WANOS123]

Wont stop me!

[@AVeryGreedyBee]

I am incredibly sad about the possibility that climbing will be banned at Arapiles, but I dont support the way this guy speaks about it. The majority of climbers I know would like to respect Indigenous heritage while coexisting as a climbing community. There certainly is a way that climbing can be allowed in a respectful way

[@NoChannelChannel]

So we pay less tax for reducing crown land we can use?

[@Robert-xs2mv]

Mt what? Never heard of it!

[@marjieryan7936]

This is your Rachael Maddow isn't he?😂

[@andret4652]

Keep voting labor

[@oldtimers6460]

And the taxpayers will still have to pay for the upkeep of the parks even Tho they cannot use them unless they are Aborigine.

[@tiger6200]

Who cares

[@jcmrob3723]

So what they are saying if you find any rock arts 🎭 destroyed or we going to block the whole area there’s no place in the country they have not been to 😂😂😂

[@laurie8102]

I've been reflecting on the concerns surrounding our natural spaces, and it seems some of this stems from selfishness. For thousands of years, this landscape has thrived, supporting a rich tapestry of life. But now I ask you: Are we aware of how certain climbing activities and community behaviors are affecting this landscape? Once, this area was a vibrant ecosystem, carefully managed to protect diverse species. Today, many of those species are struggling. How can we better manage our impact? Are we truly committed to preserving the environment we love, or are we turning a blind eye and illegal activities to the harm being done? Let’s engage in a dialogue about how we can protect these precious spaces for future generations. 🌱💚

[@brianandrea3249]

Apparently the Shrine of Remembrance is great climbing spot and offers wild routes and extreme verticals.

[@Timic83tc]

Dan Andrews statue is a good climbing spot

[@SteveMcGrath-ip6df]

Talk about biting the hand that feed them billions, such a proud strong people. 🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮

[@judyadams8178]

We all knew this would happen, it's all about our money...

[@emadmohammed3742]

DONT LET ANYONE CONVINCE YOU THAT IT STARTED ON October 7th. 1. Haifa Massacre 1937 2. Jerusalem Massacre 1937 3. Balad al-Sheikh Massacre 1939 4. Haifa Massacre 1939 5. Haifa Massacre 1947 6. Abbasiya Massacre 1947 7. Al-Khisas Massacre1947 8. Bab al-Amud Massacre 9. Jerusalem Massacre 1947 10. Sheikh Burek Massacre1947 11. Jaffa Massacre 1948 12. Deir Yassin Massacre 13. Tantura Massacre 1948 14. Khan Yunis Massacre 1956 15. Jerusalem Massacre 1967 16. Bahro Al Baquar 1972 17. Sabra and Shatila Massacre 1982 18. Al Aqsa Mosque Massacre 1990 19. Ibrahimi Mosque Massacre 1994 20. Jenin Refugee Camp April 2002 21. Gaza Massacre 2008-09 22. Gaza Massacre 2012 22. Gaza Massacre 2014 24. Gaza Massacre- 2018-19 25. Gaza Massacre2021 26. Gaza Massacre 2023 is still ongoing

[@daniellebcooper7160]

there was relative peace on oct 6th....but then something happened.

[@Berserker978]

WTF has that got to do with the story. Go spread your shit elsewhere.

[@daniellebcooper7160]

go over there if you feel so strong about it.

[@PJRayment]

What about 1300 years of Muslim aggression? "26. Gaza Massacre 2023 is still ongoing" Well that's fake news, which suggests that the rest is too.

[@hardrada8637]

Wow ... look at all the likes you got for your idiotic irrelevant comment.

[@ZeroFX-fz3du]

yeah sky, sorry, I'm not moved by issues that affect 26 people who climb rocks, i don't care at all.

[@Peter-p5u8t]

Is this truly constitutional? I hope someone challenges these ridiculous "bans"! 🏔️ 🏕️