Skyrim SE | College of Winterhold vs The Dark Brotherhood

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Raxxinate

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@SweetrollTV
@SweetrollTV 6 жыл бұрын
Restoration is a Perfely valid school of magic and don't let anyone tell you anything else
@wkgames7516
@wkgames7516 4 жыл бұрын
*otherwise
@shadowstrider5033
@shadowstrider5033 4 жыл бұрын
It's the only school of magic all my characters have seen a common use of.
@mr.potato2223
@mr.potato2223 4 жыл бұрын
But fire
@shadowstrider5033
@shadowstrider5033 4 жыл бұрын
@@mr.potato2223 Fiery exploding doggo.
@samuelyoung5664
@samuelyoung5664 4 жыл бұрын
@@shadowstrider5033 it's more valid in the past versions, especially morrowind with all it's diseases. Take a short cut through a swamp just to end up stuck in the middle of it over encumbered wandering wtf? Yep u need to cure your new disease then restore your lost status points. Especially annoying when you don't realise that you have a problem until your stuck out in the middle of nowhere with no mana.
@internetduck1520
@internetduck1520 4 жыл бұрын
Why won't the werewolf husband become a goddamn werewolf
@joshrarick5942
@joshrarick5942 4 жыл бұрын
Hell yes, first question I had.. DB would still get stomped tho..
@ShaoShaoMienshao
@ShaoShaoMienshao 4 жыл бұрын
Probably some sort of quirk in AI friendly fire behavior when werewolves are present. Every moment with a non-hostile Werewolf in-game is heavily scripted.
@Arthur1379-a
@Arthur1379-a 4 жыл бұрын
The transformation takes hours. More than enough time to some smart mage shot a fireball.
@xlipuduchru
@xlipuduchru 4 жыл бұрын
For the same reason that the mages doesn't use mayem, conjure dremora or Ebony flesh I guess
@Shaggy87781
@Shaggy87781 4 жыл бұрын
@Cinder Man the fight takes place during a lower level scaling. The dark brotherhood initiates along cicerro I believe have the highest scaling in the game at uncapped or around 50ish, so this fight may change depending on the level. Then again, they would be stronger and fighting stronger spells so it might stay the same anyway.
@fenrys_baskerville
@fenrys_baskerville 6 жыл бұрын
I like the choice of battlefield
@Raxxinate
@Raxxinate 6 жыл бұрын
Cheers, It's Located In The Forgotten Vale, Northwest Of The Solitude Mountains. Part of The Dawnguard DLC.
@AndrewAce.
@AndrewAce. 4 жыл бұрын
Same! Totally awesome.
@alexmiotke8016
@alexmiotke8016 4 жыл бұрын
Best location, if you have not done this I dont want to spoil it. All I'll say is theres twins waiting for you there
@forlife-sv8hr
@forlife-sv8hr 4 жыл бұрын
@@alexmiotke8016 not technically twins but yeah
@syalla881
@syalla881 4 жыл бұрын
@@alexmiotke8016 twins? Um... Twins generous NPC ? 😅
@Ellimist000
@Ellimist000 4 жыл бұрын
Of course the DB was going to get wrecked. We've all seen what happens when that dragon attacks the college 🤣
@Johnny-rx4hs
@Johnny-rx4hs 4 жыл бұрын
"You flew into the wrong house fool!"
@yellow_flash813
@yellow_flash813 4 жыл бұрын
@@Johnny-rx4hs 🤣🤣 bruh
@devinnewsom1972
@devinnewsom1972 4 жыл бұрын
The dragon got the meme It was at this moment he knew he fucked up
@JamMasterJesus
@JamMasterJesus 4 жыл бұрын
Bro, I just started replaying the game again, I swear like four dragons have attacked the college, two of them Elder Dragons. They ain't *shit* with the entire College at my back
@devinnewsom1972
@devinnewsom1972 4 жыл бұрын
@@JamMasterJesus XD the dragons attacking the college are memes at this point
@katherinee.9105
@katherinee.9105 4 жыл бұрын
faralda was practically on death's door and got the higher terrain to defeat arnbjorn, this girl KNOWS her shit
@emanuelstornello8009
@emanuelstornello8009 4 жыл бұрын
She had the high ground, it was over arbjorn
@johannesseyfried7933
@johannesseyfried7933 4 жыл бұрын
Faralda: "I studied under the great Alteration Master Obi-Wan Kenobi, and his first Lesson was: ALWAYS respect the High Ground!"
@ShaoShaoMienshao
@ShaoShaoMienshao 4 жыл бұрын
Girl kited both Astrid AND Arnbjorn up high ground while her College Firing Squad lit them up, Faralda not messing around.
@Johnny-rx4hs
@Johnny-rx4hs 4 жыл бұрын
@@ShaoShaoMienshao She's the Destruction master for a reason.
@sorensolstice9595
@sorensolstice9595 4 жыл бұрын
Faralda may be a bitch but if my girl ain't efficient as hell
@elamisvlogging
@elamisvlogging 4 жыл бұрын
“Strength and steel are well and good - but magic is the true power in this world” -Gandhi
@SilverGamingFI
@SilverGamingFI 4 жыл бұрын
Magic is a funny way to spell nukes
@darthrevan2410
@darthrevan2410 4 жыл бұрын
Faaaaaacts
@nicolasmoreno9442
@nicolasmoreno9442 4 жыл бұрын
Also Wuunferth the Unliving
@darthrevan2410
@darthrevan2410 4 жыл бұрын
@@nicolasmoreno9442 Have you been to cloud district lately??? Tried some mercenary work,might suit yah.
@jck-b8023
@jck-b8023 4 жыл бұрын
Alright Gandhi
@johnagcaoili9389
@johnagcaoili9389 4 жыл бұрын
Should've paid attention to those ward lessons, huh?
@SilverGamingFI
@SilverGamingFI 4 жыл бұрын
And in other restoration lessons
@damianblu
@damianblu 4 жыл бұрын
Wards don't do much against a battle-axe lol
@jackbrian7083
@jackbrian7083 4 жыл бұрын
@@damianblu no but it does do shit against the mages who just owned the brotherhood
@kagemunehiraishi
@kagemunehiraishi 4 жыл бұрын
Ice magic is such a headache for those who specialize in melee
@dashua1735
@dashua1735 4 жыл бұрын
@@damianblu It increases armor rating
@anthonypeltier4039
@anthonypeltier4039 4 жыл бұрын
My man Cicero carrying it for the team even though his team lost
@crownprince76
@crownprince76 4 жыл бұрын
He survived till the end each time..
@mohamedthegamer378
@mohamedthegamer378 4 жыл бұрын
@@crownprince76 mainly because he was alone on the other side of the battlefield
@wesleyfilms
@wesleyfilms 4 жыл бұрын
As usual
@marhen4497
@marhen4497 4 жыл бұрын
I mean he is the main boss fight of the dark brotherhood quest after all
@mattiaroccaro3544
@mattiaroccaro3544 4 жыл бұрын
Cicero is a beast.
@jep1st
@jep1st 4 жыл бұрын
At first I would've guessed that the brotherhood wins but as soon as I saw that the college members were spawning attronachs, I knew the DB would lose because the AI almost always prioritizes attacking summons instead of the summoner.
@Raxxinate
@Raxxinate 4 жыл бұрын
Instead of a 9 v 9 it was effectively a 13 v 9 with the summons. I would have favored the magicians in an open battlefield as the DB are more specialized in the art of stealth and assassination.
@Malacha1
@Malacha1 4 жыл бұрын
@@Raxxinate I'd like to see this encounter set up as an ambush. The mages have every advantage in an open field / fair fight like this, but what if the mages were all sleeping in a campsite when the brotherhood attacked?
@flamethekid
@flamethekid 4 жыл бұрын
they needa get some AI mods.
@ArthurHenrique-wb1ni
@ArthurHenrique-wb1ni 4 жыл бұрын
@@Raxxinate i tried them all in a 1v1 and the mages still win, savos aren can beat them all
@boldone66
@boldone66 4 жыл бұрын
@@ArthurHenrique-wb1ni 1v1 is not what's been questioned, but an encounter where the Assassins would actually try to, you know, assassinate.
@gadanganindyojati7849
@gadanganindyojati7849 7 жыл бұрын
Proof that Ciscero is a very useful follower
@Lanelle_bella
@Lanelle_bella 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah he's the last one to die both times..
@ArthurHenrique-wb1ni
@ArthurHenrique-wb1ni 4 жыл бұрын
@Nav I every single teacher of winterhold can beat astrid in a 1v1 i made the test, and savos aren just finish her without a scratch
@jaredflynn3750
@jaredflynn3750 4 жыл бұрын
I remember my first time trying him out as a follower and he did the crazy onehanded kill animation on a dragon and from that day on he's my second favorite after vampire goth gf
@solowolf9446
@solowolf9446 4 жыл бұрын
@Nav I the main reason people use daggers is for sneak builds though
@solowolf9446
@solowolf9446 4 жыл бұрын
@Nav I true but blade of woe (I might be wrong) is the strongest dagger from my knowledge
@tyrayentali7041
@tyrayentali7041 4 жыл бұрын
This would be over a lot faster if those master mages actually had access to master spells.
@danielgibson3422
@danielgibson3422 4 жыл бұрын
This would be over a lot faster if every member of the brotherhood had that 500 damage poison coating their weapon.... Or got a free 12x hit with there dagger at the start of the fight...
@tyrayentali7041
@tyrayentali7041 4 жыл бұрын
@@danielgibson3422 They'd just get fire stormed to oblivion, regardless of what they do.
@Lemonemesis
@Lemonemesis 4 жыл бұрын
@@tyrayentali7041 every Skyrim player knows that nobody can beat a stealthy archer
@Isus24-s8e
@Isus24-s8e 4 жыл бұрын
I read that in Tali's voice 😂
@SirGatras
@SirGatras 4 жыл бұрын
@@danielgibson3422 your sneaky sneaks don't mean shit when a simple detect life spell gets thrown out there.
@hexrisk
@hexrisk 4 жыл бұрын
Round Starts Flame atronach joined the server Flame atronach joined the server Flame atronach joined the server Astrid went up in flames Astrid: i hired the mages guild to execute this contract.
@MrUmakemelaff
@MrUmakemelaff 4 жыл бұрын
This is why there is a quest to wipe out the Dark Brotherhood and not one to wipe out the College of Winterhold.
@hazboy28
@hazboy28 2 жыл бұрын
Lol nice one
@felixlamb5999
@felixlamb5999 4 жыл бұрын
Irl Urag would’ve just started caving in skulls with the collected works of Shalidor
@Oberontreetraveler91
@Oberontreetraveler91 4 жыл бұрын
Fun fact about him he seen the rise and fall of the septum dynasty.
@MuraCasardis
@MuraCasardis 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah but like many things in Skyrim, they don't give them the proper stats and level to reflect how strong they should be (Falion being a great example). I think Urag is stuck at lvl 4 or something dumb like that.
@SuperYoshikong
@SuperYoshikong 4 жыл бұрын
@@MuraCasardis Crazy, why is the game racist towards orcs?
@rorythomson3439
@rorythomson3439 4 жыл бұрын
@@SuperYoshikong because Skyrim is for the Nords!
@henryviiifake8244
@henryviiifake8244 4 жыл бұрын
@@SuperYoshikong Bretons and Redguards: **
@bannananinjamcnuggies4048
@bannananinjamcnuggies4048 3 жыл бұрын
I like how phinis doesn’t use any destruction magic, he just starts swinging.
@JMBen
@JMBen 4 жыл бұрын
Faralda: Its over Arnbjorn, I have the highground. Arnbjorn: You underestimate my power. Faralda: Don't try it.
@TheRealJDC
@TheRealJDC 4 жыл бұрын
Seeing people get yeeted off screen with fire bolts will never get old
@bhekumuzintabeni3208
@bhekumuzintabeni3208 4 жыл бұрын
Dear assassins Never should have come here.
@lyrikjaredduncan8631
@lyrikjaredduncan8631 4 жыл бұрын
I read this in the voice😂
@emanuelstornello8009
@emanuelstornello8009 3 жыл бұрын
Signed Savos Aren, archmage of the college of winterhold.
@dragonborn_lol3307
@dragonborn_lol3307 3 жыл бұрын
Of damnit got to run
@toby7712
@toby7712 3 жыл бұрын
"Must have run off"
@dragonborn_lol3307
@dragonborn_lol3307 3 жыл бұрын
@@toby7712 lol
@sinan8947
@sinan8947 3 жыл бұрын
In the older games of the Elder Scrolls, when there is a serious threat, Empire always sends their battlemages to storm that place. Mages are truly insane
@publiusdos5925
@publiusdos5925 4 жыл бұрын
Makes sense, a thief archetype build is usually built on stealth and sneak attack bonuses, while a pure mage is a glass cannon. In an open fight, the DB is going to get wrecked every time.
@shinigamigaming2941
@shinigamigaming2941 3 жыл бұрын
Well no shit, when have you ever seen 12 assassins run at their contracts and expect to actually pull off the kill... assassination needs stealth, so maybe instead of this open battlefield bullshit, the DB should be hitting the College at night. See how the Mages fare when they aren't grouped up and can support each other with various schools of magic.
@saiyanfang1047
@saiyanfang1047 3 жыл бұрын
in TES pure mages aren't glass canons because they have all 6 schools of magic at their disposals pure mages are nightmares in combat because using illusion they have perfect stealth mysticism means you cannot hide from them they see you sneaking they see you if you're invisible using restoration they can take your life and ability to use weapons and be immune to poison reflect magic damage and basically anything bad.
@saiyanfang1047
@saiyanfang1047 3 жыл бұрын
@@shinigamigaming2941 at night they're still grouped up and have a barrier around the college to prevent night attacks
@publiusdos5925
@publiusdos5925 3 жыл бұрын
@@saiyanfang1047 Now I'm thinking my last pure mage playthrough, where my OP mage kept getting one shot by bears that came out of the forest like a heat seeking missile.
@saiyanfang1047
@saiyanfang1047 3 жыл бұрын
@@publiusdos5925 in Skyrim mages are shit because it's Skyrim despite what they say Tolfdir is pretty shitty at magic compared to Alteration experts of third era Cyrodiil and Morrowind, Neloth even goes far enough to say that Savos Aren wasn't good enough to be an apprentice. pre skyrim mage armor was a real thing as actual armor like a full set of Daedric that weighs nothing
@seb0rn739
@seb0rn739 4 жыл бұрын
Why didn't Savos conjure a Dremora Lord like he normally does?
@SilverGamingFI
@SilverGamingFI 4 жыл бұрын
The DB needs a chance
@userjames2009
@userjames2009 4 жыл бұрын
@@SilverGamingFI There could be no other end!
@miri8851
@miri8851 4 жыл бұрын
My guess is the db level is low so npc are nerfed a lil but idk
@JohnAlcott238
@JohnAlcott238 4 жыл бұрын
They didn't even need their final form
@Arthur1379-a
@Arthur1379-a 4 жыл бұрын
In my game he attacks me by punching me or grabbing some weapon, and then start using Stoneflesh and Fast Healing (clearly someone joined the wrong faction)
@edberaga6357
@edberaga6357 7 жыл бұрын
ALL HAIL WINTERHOLD
@spiritwraith6828
@spiritwraith6828 7 жыл бұрын
Edberaga The Magician! BOOOO!! THE DARK BROTHERHOOD FOR FOREVER!!
@edberaga6357
@edberaga6357 7 жыл бұрын
Spirit Wraith hah! WEAK!
@Laimee
@Laimee 6 жыл бұрын
@@edberaga6357 winterhold is my favorite capital in skyrim
@amkeamke5060
@amkeamke5060 5 жыл бұрын
Why not a mage dark brotherhood
@wintermelon6390
@wintermelon6390 5 жыл бұрын
Amke Amke they don't believe with magic
@pingmann
@pingmann 4 жыл бұрын
"hehe daggers are cool but magic is more damage idk" - George Washington
@thecoobs8820
@thecoobs8820 4 жыл бұрын
Why are you making shit on someone else's name. You're a fuckin jack ass
@poroporo5666
@poroporo5666 4 жыл бұрын
@@thecoobs8820 dude it's a joke chill
@JohnDarksoul98
@JohnDarksoul98 4 жыл бұрын
@@thecoobs8820 "dude it's a joke chill" - Nikola Tesla
@woozyglint2127
@woozyglint2127 4 жыл бұрын
@@thecoobs8820 "No need to get your panties in a twist"-Napoleon Bonaparte
@poroporo5666
@poroporo5666 4 жыл бұрын
@@thecoobs8820 "you know what they say, if it's old enough to count then it's old enough to mount" - Osama Bin Laden
@bladeog4285
@bladeog4285 4 жыл бұрын
Watching tolfdir get absolutely gutted made me a lil sad ngl he’s just a nice old man
@s8theninjawarrior916
@s8theninjawarrior916 3 жыл бұрын
Same
@dylanwoodward5256
@dylanwoodward5256 4 жыл бұрын
And once everything was settled... "Must've scared em off..."
@themediocrebattlefrontplay3438
@themediocrebattlefrontplay3438 4 жыл бұрын
also followed by things like "must have been my imagination playing tricks" or "well that takes care of that"
@jellybutton4216
@jellybutton4216 4 жыл бұрын
Must've been the wind.
@nemanjarajic6411
@nemanjarajic6411 4 жыл бұрын
"Must be my imagination" Says that with one arrow in his eye and second arrow lodgen in the chest
@fukkatsumykamikoto881
@fukkatsumykamikoto881 7 жыл бұрын
I supose, Penitus Oculatus should hire magicians from Winterhold for kill Dark Brotherhood.)
@spiritwraith6828
@spiritwraith6828 7 жыл бұрын
Fukkatsumy Kamikoto they will never die
@aurorialgaming1935
@aurorialgaming1935 4 жыл бұрын
Technically on my case... they did
@madysalty5294
@madysalty5294 4 жыл бұрын
I was doing Winterhold college quest when i destroyed the Dark Brotherhood, they can't do shit againt Magic
@Sorta8
@Sorta8 4 жыл бұрын
@@madysalty5294 if it was novice difficulty then it's obviously easy , tho on master and legend it'll leave a bit of ... Hell , 3000 septims not worth it.
@NaughtiusMaximmus
@NaughtiusMaximmus 3 жыл бұрын
@@Sorta8 it's worth it for me... (looks at all the jumpscares their assassins gave me)
@bilalghani4190
@bilalghani4190 4 жыл бұрын
"To kick-ass, one must know the arcane arts"- Sun Tzu
@2_-
@2_- 2 жыл бұрын
"To kick-ass, one must know the shooty arts" - Gun Tzu
@buttercat2718
@buttercat2718 3 жыл бұрын
I find it fitting that the two of four last assassins to be ruthlessly burned were the wife and husband, and Arnbjorn literally saw Astrid’s flaming corpse be flung across his field of view before he was shot down too
@leyrua
@leyrua 4 жыл бұрын
Mage with Mage Armor: tank Mage without Mage Armor: poke **dies**
@bombboi4080
@bombboi4080 3 жыл бұрын
Dane ..honest to god sniper tactic is ALWAYS useful
@christopherbravo1813
@christopherbravo1813 6 жыл бұрын
Most feared assassins in Skyrim, eh?
@bestkill6888
@bestkill6888 6 жыл бұрын
Ya Assassins, not warriors. Assassins attack from the shadows, not in open combat.
@ArthurHenrique-wb1ni
@ArthurHenrique-wb1ni 4 жыл бұрын
@@bestkill6888 even on 1v1, the teachers win, savos aren can beat them all without a scratch, i made the test
@bestkill6888
@bestkill6888 4 жыл бұрын
@@ArthurHenrique-wb1ni Okay and? That has nothing to do with what I said 2 YEARS AGO😭😭🤡🤡🤡
@ArthurHenrique-wb1ni
@ArthurHenrique-wb1ni 4 жыл бұрын
@@bestkill6888 doens't matters the circunstance, the mages win
@ArthurHenrique-wb1ni
@ArthurHenrique-wb1ni 4 жыл бұрын
​@@bestkill6888 seens that you're the same dumbass as 2 years ago
@ericelam1299
@ericelam1299 4 жыл бұрын
But I’m not gonna lie though I do want to see how the thieves guild fairies against the dark brotherhood
@michaellv426
@michaellv426 4 жыл бұрын
They'd steal dark brotherhood's weapons, armor and pants before the combat starts, and offer the loot to Nocturnal
@JonatasAdoM
@JonatasAdoM 4 жыл бұрын
They'd steal the spotlight
@Johnny-rx4hs
@Johnny-rx4hs 4 жыл бұрын
Would that include Mercer and Karliah?
@Jadechamberrr
@Jadechamberrr 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting idk
@coleozaeta6344
@coleozaeta6344 4 жыл бұрын
@@JonatasAdoM That’s the fucken best.
@Raxxinate
@Raxxinate 4 жыл бұрын
★ Would you like to see any other Faction Battles in Skyrim? ★ Will probably record THE DAWNGUARD vs VOLKIHAR VAMPIRES and DARK BROTHERHOOD vs THIEVES GUILD next.... ★ Also, if interested, check out Skyrim mods I've hosted on the Nexus at bit.ly/RaxyNexus ★
@ilikelobsters.2376
@ilikelobsters.2376 4 жыл бұрын
Activate windows.
@hexrisk
@hexrisk 4 жыл бұрын
Waitd 3 years for this?!
@miguelthealpaca8971
@miguelthealpaca8971 4 жыл бұрын
College of Winterhold versus Companions.
@dantevarde5532
@dantevarde5532 4 жыл бұрын
Yesss I wanna see Vex and Delvin in action. The thives will probably lose but wtv
@marvinamor1330
@marvinamor1330 4 жыл бұрын
College of winterhold vs Volkihar Vampires as both have some good magic users
@thesiege6003
@thesiege6003 4 жыл бұрын
"Dark brotherhood definitely have this in the bag, magic is pretty weak in skyrim" *College of winterhold's numbers instantly double* "Ah"
@AtomicSorcery
@AtomicSorcery 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah. Conjuration basically acted as a way to soak attacks and get more attacks in. Also not a single one of them was a bow specialist so you also saw the DB needing to cover distance before they could do damage. The terms of the match favored Winterhold.
@ignarus3636
@ignarus3636 3 жыл бұрын
Yup - destruction magic scales poorly compared to hand weapons that are fully boosted by smithing/enchanting/alchemy, *none* of which are a factor for NPCs. If DB were equipped to dual wield and had two weapons in their inventory, this would have been closer, but it's hard to catch up to mages firing frost spells on open ground with unlimited room to retreat when you are wearing useless armor. And the ability to focus fire from distance AND the fact that mages often are already unleashing an ice bolt when somebody takes a knee at low health. Pretty sure I saw the DB fail to finish somebody who then got up and started firing spells again - a disengagement that disproportionately favors ranged combatants. Really, there's absolutely no reason to expect the DB to have a snowflake's chance in hell in a fight like this. Not a lot of armies have detachments of soldiers wearing light armor and weilding single daggers. HTH DPS losing to Ranged DPS in an open, large-scale skirmish is no surprise whatsoever 😄
@bombboi4080
@bombboi4080 3 жыл бұрын
You dumb modder
@11thlightofheaven37
@11thlightofheaven37 4 жыл бұрын
This battlefield is way too heavily advantageous to the college, but uh... Skyrim is also annoyingly stacked against mages so it's fine.
@haytamhaytam7227
@haytamhaytam7227 4 жыл бұрын
Actually if the battlefield is short it would be worse for db cuz conjuration will be more op and expert destruction spells deal aoe damage
@henryviiifake8244
@henryviiifake8244 4 жыл бұрын
Stacked _against_ mages? Idk, my guy. 2x Storm Atronachs, yeeting Frenzy into some enemies and spamming Chain Lightning (becuase Storm Bois are immune) is _pretty OP._ Then again, the master Conjuration trainer (Phineas Gestor?) only summoned a Flame Atronach. 🤷‍♂️ Edit: Other commenters say Savos Aren is supposed to summon a Dremora Lord, so that's a big fat Yikes for the DB. 😭
@henryviiifake8244
@henryviiifake8244 4 жыл бұрын
@@haytamhaytam7227 Adept Destruction spells (Chain Lightning, Ice Storm, Fireball) do AoE damage. Expert ones (Thunderbolt, Ice Spear, Incinerate) are, annoyingly, single-target only.
@logandenton6467
@logandenton6467 4 жыл бұрын
@@henryviiifake8244 Yea but the higher the level the more nerfed magic gets, so once you can use master level spells with a level 30 character the magic is weaker then a level 30 bandit because a spell used by a master level wizard deals the same damage has a level 1 wizard. The only reason they won was because of heals/ice and ai going after atronachs. There's so much stuff that hardcore nerfs magic in this game. The only two exceptions are the high mage who has special stats and can beat most characters one on one. Or dragons at the college because the mages fire so many ranged attacks before the dragon ai can even find a angle to land or blast from. Now if magic didn't have a stagnant damage rate, and leveled with the character then you would be 100% right.
@s8theninjawarrior916
@s8theninjawarrior916 3 жыл бұрын
@@logandenton6467 Magic is still very easily viable at lvl 30, hell even at lvl 50 it is, adept and expert spells with one of the 3 masks of dragonborn's dragon priest can deal 90 damage for adept or 135 damage for expert. That is still incredibly powerful, not as much as a fully upgraded weapon of your choice maybe, but just the fact you can have only 1 skill tree at 100 and not 3 just to deal damage is very good
@zephyr3453
@zephyr3453 4 жыл бұрын
This is like the Deadliest Warrior episode with ninja vs spartan. The Brotherhood wouldn't engage in open combat on an open field. They would sneak into the college and use their stealth skills to murder everyone in their sleep.
@bertmacklin7483
@bertmacklin7483 4 жыл бұрын
Exact words by that ninja team guy in that episode and i think its true why would a ninja or in thus case an assassin ever have an open fight when their speciality is stealth itself.
@insertname3977
@insertname3977 4 жыл бұрын
@@bertmacklin7483 I mean, you can always argue it's a case of "both sides are caught unaware of each other" or "assassins really should be able to fight in these conditions to some degree because at some point they're going to get caught and running away won't be an option."
@renaldoawes2210
@renaldoawes2210 4 жыл бұрын
The issue with that is Ninjas irl weren't as badass as we make them out to be. The Spartans would absolutely beat ninjas and no the idea of a ninja running around a spartan camp killing them "stealthily" is incredibly unrealistic. At the end of the day there's always a bigger fish, and Ninjas just aren't anywhere near biggest fish. They're badass, but mainly because they were impoverished farmers who used guerilla tactics to resist oppressive dynamos who sent heavily armored soldiers to raid their villages. But as cool as that is it'd be ridiculous to think they could beat Spartans in any sort of combat, even utilizing guerilla tactics.
@MechaGriffin
@MechaGriffin 4 жыл бұрын
If you have to kill someone in their sleep in order to win, are you even strong in the first place? Genuine question.
@renaldoawes2210
@renaldoawes2210 4 жыл бұрын
@@MechaGriffin Exactly.
@blakea3323
@blakea3323 4 жыл бұрын
I don’t think it’s a question. The college immediately has a numbers advantage. The brotherhood doesn’t have the ai to sneak, and realistically speaking there’s nowhere to hide. If the brotherhood locks onto antronoks (forgive if it’s spelled wrong) then they’re seriously screwed. Mages are probably the most overpowered when it comes to NPC wars.
@silvercandra4275
@silvercandra4275 4 жыл бұрын
*Atronachs
@blakea3323
@blakea3323 4 жыл бұрын
@@silvercandra4275 thank you! I was struggling with that one.
@joravrba8890
@joravrba8890 4 жыл бұрын
@@silvercandra4275 *atronachs
@silvercandra4275
@silvercandra4275 4 жыл бұрын
@@joravrba8890 You're right... ^^; Well, at least my correction was slightly right...er
@archaros
@archaros 4 жыл бұрын
Well magic sucks at higher level, so I think the mor eyou increase the NPCs level, the more the DB will have chances to win.
@rekaadang
@rekaadang 4 жыл бұрын
College FTW duh.They have everything. They can go invisible, can create mayhem make the Assassins kill each other, can calms the Dark Brotherhood should they got angry, can detect life should the enemy go invisible, can paralyze, can revive the fallen assassin to fight against their living friends. They didn't use all those options in this fight but ... Don't mess with the proffessors. Whenever I play this game, I always go for mages. Versatility. It is different if the Brotherhood is on a mission to kill them. They will go one by one, and will suceed.
@joshuamathew7697
@joshuamathew7697 4 жыл бұрын
True but the mages are just boring. It is no fun just casting a invisibility spell and casting a fireball at someone
@AncientSavant7572
@AncientSavant7572 4 жыл бұрын
I always go for a mage build, and it's much more fun, not to mention all the spells that will take from being near dead, to full health
@rekaadang
@rekaadang 4 жыл бұрын
​@@AncientSavant7572 Agree. I use Destruction only for fun, because other schools are too strong! *Illusion* will make even the angriest bandits, giants, vampire, bears, automatons, falmers, etc my best friend, and I can even make them kill each other. *Conjuration* can raise two Master Vampires or Arch Necromancers as my slaves, which is overkill since both of them can raise armies as well. *Alteration* made me basically a magic tank, if we combine the Atronach Perk and Atronach Stone, plus I can do Mass Paralysis, which is crazy strong. Fighting undeads using *Restoration* is overkill. I usually pursue Draugr Deathlord, Draugr Wight, Draugr Scourge, Master Vampire, etc, because my spell Circel of Protection. And there are *Echanting and Alchemy,* that can make my character have millions of HP and Magicka, or even damage! Too versatile!
@jonathanlindsey8864
@jonathanlindsey8864 4 жыл бұрын
What was missing from this fight was the stealth element. 1v1s where the assassins got the first hit in, or better yet: kzbin.info/www/bejne/noXcf3qMib-Zbqs
@marty8765
@marty8765 4 жыл бұрын
@@rekaadang Illusion is easily the most useless school of magic past level 30
@alanfuentes3671
@alanfuentes3671 4 жыл бұрын
Faralda MVP
@Raxxinate
@Raxxinate 4 жыл бұрын
It's no wonder why she's the College Gatekeeper
@buttercat2718
@buttercat2718 3 жыл бұрын
Faralda MVP for the College, but Cicero straight up took everything and always lasted til the end
@rujerru696
@rujerru696 4 жыл бұрын
Why does this remind me of twilight with its small ass "war" in a snowy field.
@xionkale3688
@xionkale3688 4 жыл бұрын
3:54 Brotherhood: "You are dead" Winterhold: "Call an ambulance! But for not me"
@cameronchaney1538
@cameronchaney1538 4 жыл бұрын
*Winterhold*
@combatpanda4264
@combatpanda4264 4 жыл бұрын
Eyy this was really great. That's wassup. My Boy Cicero was the last man standing. I knew DB would get slaughtered bu that was a treat. 👍
@dymoure
@dymoure 3 жыл бұрын
I can’t get over how much of a good idea this was.
@cheddarcheesecake9683
@cheddarcheesecake9683 4 жыл бұрын
Who would win: the most powerful an well respected masters of magic in all of skyrim Or A bunch of edgebois
@pedrokoury1352
@pedrokoury1352 4 жыл бұрын
What a cool concept for a Skyrim video! I appreciate your passion and camera skills alot, too. I want more! I think the College of Winterhold can win against the Companions but it would be a tougher fight. I'm still going to check out your other vids but it would be cool to have different battle areas/locations that benefit the factions' expertise, as well as a more neutral location. The assassins had no chance in this icy plain. They were lacking different levels of height and shadow :)
@christianthayer-yates9736
@christianthayer-yates9736 4 жыл бұрын
College just lucky the unkillable child with vampiric powers didn't show up
@Eliras24
@Eliras24 3 жыл бұрын
Don’t forget the boss J’Zargo wasn’t there too. As we All know J’Zargo scales to the Db. And he has All kind of spells. He’s a badass. And also vampires are killable in skyrim, erasing any Trace of their existence was my favorite thing to so in the game 😬☺️ as i deeply despise even the very idea of a vampire
@CativaCookie
@CativaCookie 3 жыл бұрын
That child would had evaporated at the mere presence of Restoration master Colette. Remember, restoration is a perfectly valid school of magic!
@felynecomrade
@felynecomrade 3 жыл бұрын
@@CativaCookie Nuh uh. In Skyrim children are are immortal.
@gustavobastos8403
@gustavobastos8403 4 жыл бұрын
The mages has the vantage. When they summon the atronach, the assassins go attack them while the mages kepp distance and attack with magic. Besides, even when the assassins attack directly, the mages can heal themselves.
@Loral-Niran
@Loral-Niran 4 жыл бұрын
"Out fricking skilled" "Get dunked on" Love the mages hope they slap the companions.
@lepetitenellie
@lepetitenellie 3 жыл бұрын
I ache because I love this video so much. Please do more. Thank you for such a clear video and choosing a landscape not obscured by trees. Two wish lists: a few more close-up shots and a roster of who is still alive at the end. But they are super minor. I still think this is such a great battle video of our beloved skyrim peeps.
@violetshadowstone5250
@violetshadowstone5250 3 жыл бұрын
Babette: "Just a normal human girl here, don't investigate."
@ronniebattle6756
@ronniebattle6756 4 жыл бұрын
That didn't go at all how I expected it would 😁. Great video, more please.
@Lilmorrow5
@Lilmorrow5 4 жыл бұрын
Can we talk about that ACCURACY?! those mages and atronachs are 360 no scoping across the map!
@kaztv3845
@kaztv3845 4 жыл бұрын
Wow bro it just keeps going up, smashed it 👏
@adamxei9073
@adamxei9073 4 жыл бұрын
I wonder what level this guy was. I typically see a storm attonoch summoned by the wizards.
@Blurrybob
@Blurrybob 3 жыл бұрын
A more epic video never have I seen. I'm glad there was an ad at the end so that my view has given something to the creator
@Raxxinate
@Raxxinate 3 жыл бұрын
Much Appreciated!
@danterik9781
@danterik9781 4 жыл бұрын
I mean theyre supposed to be assassins, not warriors fighting in an open battlefield. So it kinda makes sense for them to lose
@linoo9404
@linoo9404 3 жыл бұрын
J'zargo is pleased with this outcome
@GonFerrer90
@GonFerrer90 4 жыл бұрын
That epic moment when Faralda was tanking Arnbjorn and the iniciate, while the artillery were bombarding them from behind trying to help was amazing. Arnbjorn had Faralda !! one more strike and she's dead, but the electricity and fire were too much powerful to continue the fight.
@andrewnavarro1185
@andrewnavarro1185 3 жыл бұрын
Always good to see the mages triumphing over those filthy rogues.
@revol_000
@revol_000 4 жыл бұрын
Cicero in 1st round be like: Go away mages, Cicero has to kill Arniel Gane!
@jamiebruner8463
@jamiebruner8463 4 жыл бұрын
I did not expect to enjoy this this much. LET'S GO CoW!!!
@audreyelizabeths
@audreyelizabeths 3 жыл бұрын
so proud of my boy cicero for carrying the entire DB in this video
@psychologymajorptsd62
@psychologymajorptsd62 3 жыл бұрын
They didn’t have their most valuable asset: a 10 year old vampire.
@fennecdarling980
@fennecdarling980 4 жыл бұрын
Gee, it seems that the DB isn't as strong as it was before I WONDER WHY, ASTRID 👁👁
@mottony
@mottony 3 жыл бұрын
Because assassins are stealthy, if they were able to play like a player the mages would've actually had a harder time, but what do I know I'm just using my brain yet the mages are too stubborn to use their brain
@Umbiriel
@Umbiriel 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video. Restoration, atronachs and sheer range will definetly assure victory! Just funny how Cicero was last one to die 2 times
@breakingboardrooms1778
@breakingboardrooms1778 6 жыл бұрын
Go Mages, go!
@ignarus3636
@ignarus3636 3 жыл бұрын
This was a lot of fun 😂 Knowing what we know about Skyrim NPC AI, the outcome is absolutely no surprise but it's still fun to watch the large-scale faction battle.
@andreasoloansihotang122
@andreasoloansihotang122 4 жыл бұрын
Love it when the mages start summoning fire atronach
@272needler
@272needler 4 жыл бұрын
College of Winterhold is badasss... All these skyrim videos popping up suddenly is making me miss this game. Can't believe it is already years since it first came out !
@whiterunguard4630
@whiterunguard4630 4 жыл бұрын
You're the one from the college. Heard about you.
@lepetitenellie
@lepetitenellie 3 жыл бұрын
That epic pan at 4:08 !!! Everyone regrouping simultaneously to go get Cicero, I love it!!
@baran8043
@baran8043 3 жыл бұрын
Bruh this here, is content.
@garyleonard9905
@garyleonard9905 4 жыл бұрын
A lot of dark brotherhood strength would be in their ability to sneak and get the first hit or two. This video doesn't account for the environment that is being used and how it may effect the battle as a whole. That being said I do love the video and support you to make this one and many more. Thank you:)
@sergiopinela5401
@sergiopinela5401 5 жыл бұрын
I always loved the college! Magic is the next step on combat and life. For sure
@Raxxinate
@Raxxinate 5 жыл бұрын
Favorite Faction, along with The Dawnguard!
@sergiopinela5401
@sergiopinela5401 5 жыл бұрын
@@Raxxinate uh iah You belong to the guild mate! Honor and praise!
@randomchannel4040
@randomchannel4040 4 жыл бұрын
I would love to see more videos of every faction versus each one and then do an ultimate count down to the best factikn strength wise. But this a great idea for a series in my opinion! 🤙
@fenrys_baskerville
@fenrys_baskerville 6 жыл бұрын
Kinda makes me sad for not being able to fight as a mage :'(
@deangeloellis729
@deangeloellis729 3 жыл бұрын
use mods....
@OliverurFace
@OliverurFace 4 жыл бұрын
Them frost spells came in clutch
@Reallytallsocks
@Reallytallsocks 4 жыл бұрын
Distanced based destruction magic and summons vs iron swords and daggers. Not a surprise to me.
@Shuda2244
@Shuda2244 4 жыл бұрын
9 vs 9 Round 1.... Start! 9 vs 13 Brotherhood: "that's not fair!"
@hotdonkey3801
@hotdonkey3801 4 жыл бұрын
That was epic but I had my money on the assassins
@renaldoawes2210
@renaldoawes2210 4 жыл бұрын
Same. They are such trash in a straight fight. No wonder they are in hiding. LOL
@mottony
@mottony 3 жыл бұрын
@@renaldoawes2210 the ai for anything other than mages and warriors is garbage, the assassin type ai is highly neglected
@gabebennett3185
@gabebennett3185 4 жыл бұрын
Please do more of these! They will make you blow up! Do college vs companions, thieves guild vs DB, imperials vs stormcloaks with general tullius and Ulfric, you can also do how many blades to beat a dragon and dremora vs dragons and there are just so many possibilites!!!
@padhitam123
@padhitam123 4 жыл бұрын
I totally thought that mages don't stand a chance against swordsmen, but damn.
@JustDaZack
@JustDaZack 4 жыл бұрын
Never knew I needed this - I want so much more of these!
@cooldudewithfreshdrip3113
@cooldudewithfreshdrip3113 4 жыл бұрын
The dark brotherhood has a werewolf that I'm not seeing, bro That requires a part 2, I think
@johnmarks227
@johnmarks227 3 жыл бұрын
They also have a little girl vampire
@Totally_Not_Blair
@Totally_Not_Blair 3 жыл бұрын
This looks really cool, how did you make this?
@Raxxinate
@Raxxinate 3 жыл бұрын
Just used console commands and recorded with capture software such as Nvidia Shadowplay.
@Totally_Not_Blair
@Totally_Not_Blair 3 жыл бұрын
@@Raxxinate Ah, I play on the switch so I had no idea you could do that.
@derekvillorente4334
@derekvillorente4334 3 жыл бұрын
I guess that it pays to stay in college in Skyrim.
@opusepynomus9995
@opusepynomus9995 3 жыл бұрын
The bg music goes with this perfectly
@BG_Boozehound
@BG_Boozehound 4 жыл бұрын
Seeing Cicero get finished off by a firebolt at 1:55 was extremely satisfying.
@minoshiromodoki7189
@minoshiromodoki7189 4 жыл бұрын
"Hail, summoner. Conjure me up a warm bed, would you?"
@ulfrtheblind1225
@ulfrtheblind1225 4 жыл бұрын
The college will endure
@dregnoff9361
@dregnoff9361 4 жыл бұрын
Already knew for thisll play out 😂 Awesome camera work btws
@nikelmaharjan6755
@nikelmaharjan6755 7 жыл бұрын
background music?
@Raxxinate
@Raxxinate 6 жыл бұрын
Tracks: Skyrim Theme Remix - Plasma3Music Skyrim OST - Dragonborn
@SamWorldTravel
@SamWorldTravel 4 жыл бұрын
that ending scene with mountains.... maaan i must replay skyrim with this mods looks fabulous especially with choosen music.
@fatterguy8443
@fatterguy8443 4 жыл бұрын
You know The College is nearly Impossible to beat. WTH did ya'll expect.
@dizzyninja4587
@dizzyninja4587 4 жыл бұрын
This randomly slid into my recommended lol I used to watch these fights all the time when I was younger🙂
@kolliwanne964
@kolliwanne964 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly I expected the mages to win, I have seen them evaporating dragons every second day already. Their strength is actually very solid.
@MatsuSenpaii
@MatsuSenpaii 3 жыл бұрын
Man, Fallout & Skyrim is just one of the best games for NPC wars The animation looks cool The combat system is good too The factions, not bad Weapons not bad Armors looking good And most of all *It's eazy enough to make one NPC war scenario*
@yagz7820
@yagz7820 4 жыл бұрын
There are reasons dark brotherhood stealthy characters in this game they couldn kill them with one hit with sneak attack
@renaldoawes2210
@renaldoawes2210 4 жыл бұрын
The reason they use stealth is because they fucking suck ass in any sort of fair combat LOL as shown in this video. Unless they literally have the drop on somebody with a 400% crit chance bonus they aren't killing shit.
@danielgibson3422
@danielgibson3422 4 жыл бұрын
@@renaldoawes2210 that's like saying a mage sucks ass because they can't accomplish anything with out their magic.... Just add a coating of that super poison the brotherhood makes to all there weapons and see how well the mages fair.
@renaldoawes2210
@renaldoawes2210 4 жыл бұрын
@@danielgibson3422 No it's not. Magic is a tool not a situation. I never took the Dark Brotherhood's weapons from them. But this argument of "well they're stronger if they jump you by surprise and therefore they're stronger" is ridiculous.
@danielgibson3422
@danielgibson3422 4 жыл бұрын
@@renaldoawes2210 stealth in game is also a tool well used by the player in game that offers a tangible bonus. Even if you want to ignore that then at the very least they should be given the best poisons considering that is literally just a tool.
@renaldoawes2210
@renaldoawes2210 4 жыл бұрын
@@danielgibson3422 Stealth isn't a tool stealth is a tactic. A tool is a physical item while stealth is a skill based tactic. It's like if you were to compare armed forces. Let's just say US soldiers vs Russian. But then you unfairly gave the Russians an ambush position and put the US forces completely out of position. That would be an awful way to compare them. If we are going to give the assassins stealth then we have to give the mages something in return. All the mages would have to do is cast detect life and now the assassins have to fight a straight up fight, which brings us full circle where we can clearly see they are incapable of winning. I grant you if the assassins had better gear they probably would have won, but the mages could also be given stronger spells. Blame Bethesda for that one, not the video creator. He set up the most fair fight possible and the assassins got rocked. Personally? I expected them to massacre the mages because Magic is really weak in Skyrim compared to melee but I wasn't expecting the assassins to be that weak lmao.
@hadorstapa
@hadorstapa 4 жыл бұрын
Great fun, but quite hard to tell what's happening and the results unless you're very familiar. Some commentary or visual cue about who won each round would help enormously.
@plague-thirster3177
@plague-thirster3177 4 жыл бұрын
*Meanwhile the Thieves’ Guild just robbed the College and the lair of the Dark Brotherhood clean*.
@thedarkuspirit
@thedarkuspirit 4 жыл бұрын
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