Will the All Blacks and Springboks be upset in test 2? | ARP

2:08 How do the All Blacks overcome England’s effective rush defence?
13:00 Why do modern teams not attack with great depth?
14:45 Where can England improve to have a chance of winning test 2?
18:14 What does a successful season look like for these All Blacks?
19:50 Would you bet on the All Blacks going unbeaten?
22:25 Ardie Savea interview
38:19 The evolution of the Boks’ attacking game against Ireland
43:28 Ireland’s run-ins with the ref and how to better handle them
49:00 Where did the Wallabies improve most in Joe Schmidt’s first test?
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[@84Zanie]

As a South African and huge Bok fan, I just want to say that I really, really enjoy your podcast!! The amount of respect you have for other international teams is just so humbling to watch!! Thank you.

[@nzfreeski]

So happy you enjoy this old foe. These guys remind me of how normal NZ friends talk about footy - humble and respect. Not the lunatic keyboard warriors you may see. I love this show too. Who do you recommend for a kiwi to watch in SA?

[@bhekemsenidladla3202]

@@nzfreeski I would say The boks office, but with them they are not as consistence

[@84Zanie]

@@nzfreeski The Boks Office!! You can catch them on Rugby Pass TV and I think they are on KZbin. Hosts are Hanyani Shimange, Jean De Villiers and Schalk Burger - all ex Springboks. Their show is fantastic and very entertaining!!

[@77erich]

@@nzfreeskiEggchaser is pretty good👍

[@FreePalestine-q1s]

Yeah....you guys could learn a thing or 2 couldn't ye 👀

[@dcollinsmusic]

Question/Observation here - I'm an American who moved to New Zealand a couple years ago. I grew up watching the NFL and still follow it really closely. I got into rugby a few years ago and absolutely adore the sport. There's a lot of talk in the rugby media about "ball in play time" and how increasing that is believed to be a better viewing experience. However the NFL always has a ton of viewership with almost no "ball in play" time, and I think a lot of it is down to the quality of the broadcast. While I think the commentators here in NZ for rugby are generally great, is there more that can be done as set pieces are being set up to show off real-time stats/season stats, highlight high impact plays that maybe aren't obvious to a casual viewer, etc? Those are the things the NFL does really well between plays to keep viewers engaged. Love the show, cheers!

[@andrewlawson573]

That's something that cricket does really well. Great suggestion

[@randomlyfactual1943]

You sir, are an absolute saint. Thank you for that comment. All these people talking about "making the game more exciting" or "spectator friendly" should go watch something like rugby league or lacrosse. The NFL is probably the highest drawing sport in the world in terms of revenue. Guess what? It's stop start. Cricket is the second biggest spectator sport on earth and you have a stop start after every ball. Association football is by far the biggest sport on earth AND YOU GET ZERO-ZERO SCORELINES. Can I nominate you for a place on the world rugby board? You'll have my vote and probably everyone in South Africa.

[@mjribes]

I always thought having 2 biased commentators (one biased towards each team) would make for an interesting watch😆

[@damonenright8867]

​@mjribes a bit like when Man U, Phil Neville, plays Liverpool, Jamie Carragher. As former players for those teams, the commentary is pretty full on

[@GBNE-kh1fs]

Ardie is a proper dude - humble, thoughtful, and a proper warrior on the pitch.

[@salomonligthelm14]

Love Savea! Think many of us South Africans do!

[@wot4922]

Absolutely.

[@user-lw2ng1jb1m]

same!

[@RUGGARUGBY]

Yster 🔥

[@londimkhize9196]

ABSOLUTELY.... hes top of mind when i think New Zealand

[@jenlab4343]

For sure

[@izakbisschoff8712]

Prefer your show to the other show where egos are dominating. Parsons and Hall are good analysts AND down to earth people.

[@eyeofrage7025]

I stopped watching JK shows ages ago

[@davidmalgas5600]

Go and watch Super Rugby on a Monday Night on Supersport same as that show you ref to...

[@EdgarJnrJnr]

I agree I've been wondering why the took so long to produce the next episode 😂

[@zacccharlton2205]

Miles is the only one I respect he seems fed up with them some times

[@ryandeetlefs1578]

Just realized we as Bok supporters are like Indian cricket fans commenting on every rugby podcast 🤣🤣🤣 love the passion for our team 🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🙌

[@runitstraight2637]

I don't think that's a good thing mate . Indian cricket fans can be incredibly toxic and engage with anything cricket related and make it about Indian cricket.

[@ryandeetlefs1578]

@@runitstraight2637 it just shows the passion but yeah we should take it down a notch perhaps 🤣

[@ho6277]

​@@ryandeetlefs1578I love saffas when they win, but when they lose, they are the worst fans😂

[@randomlyfactual1943]

Well, let's be honest. What other positive things have we got in our country? New Zealand has free healthcare. We have worthless healthcare. England has a monstrous military. We have monstrous corruption. Wales has castles. We have squatter camps. The French have a rugby budget exceeding 35 million. We have 35 million unemployed. Australia has kangaroos. We have Zama Zamas. Ireland has luck, leprechauns and the Blarney Stone. We have load shedding, that sounds like it's coming back soon too. We probably have the highest crimes rate of at least the top 20 rugby playing nations. We probably have the lowest salaries per capita for at least the top 20 rugby playing nations. We have the highest unemployment rate for at least the top 20 rugby playing nations. There is very little in this country to get excited about. Literally the only thing that works, that we can be proud of is the Springboks.

[@randomlyfactual1943]

@@siviwenjajula5844 We have natural beauty, sure. But most beautiful? Every been to the Fjords? Grand Canyon? To the Australian Whitsundays? To the volcanoes in New Zealand? To the beaches of the Caribbean? Sure we have beautiful landscapes, but saying we are THE most beayone is taking it a bit far. Then, I would gladly give up the bushveld or the Garden Route to never have Stage 6 loadshedding again. Yeah we had Apartheid too, thirty or forty years ago. Add that to the list.

[@johnsantos3392]

Can't wait for All Blacks vs Boks

[@ianjacobs2998]

So true, the expectations/attitude from the greatest, Springboks and All Blacks. WE SHOULDN'T THINK OF LOSING !!!! 🇿🇦 🇿🇦

[@user-tt3dq7gb1k]

Christo from SA. Enjoy your shows and the respect all of you show to all teams. What a diff to the Northern shows where people are always breaking the Boks down. Thank you!!

[@danhursty6684]

Great interview with Ardie such a likeable bloke

[@jacquesbooysen3773]

Yeah, and i felt like he was describing my kids 😂

[@manuelepetelo7753]

I was on the edge of my seat to be honest.., wow! Obviously The British came here to play, and I must admit that they are a very good team! Well done our boys in the end....

[@korocam9137]

Yes, a True test.

[@wot4922]

They are going to be do determined this week. Lost to Boks and ABs by 1 point.

[@StephenBrown-vh8mz]

We are all professional now the margins are very small now it was a 50/50 call at the end ... Marcus Smith left points go England could and possibly should have won remember this is at the end of a season that started with world cup warm ups the main thing followed by full six nations and then European and national championships and then onto this tour it's a slog up north this global season can't come soon enough but England are a real deal and I'm Welsh

[@kev63inuk]

@@StephenBrown-vh8mz you’ll know then Stephen that Marcus smith will make those kicks next time out. Think the bench quality and experience from NZ won them the game . But agree England at long last playing to our potential. Good luck mate on Saturday. I cheer on all the British teams except Scotland . 👍

[@FreePalestine-q1s]

eh... the' English ' came to play

[@yeayou1221]

All the Southern hemisphere teams were a bit rusty and will look alot better after a couple of games.

[@taraishot100]

What’re you talking about this is the southern hemisphere’s first games since the World Cup the Northern Hemisphere have already finished their 6 Nations buddy stop making excuses

[@yeayou1221]

@@taraishot100 you just proved my point buddy 🤦🏻‍♂️😂 Their first game together while the northern teams have already played together a bunch.

[@jakemiddleton5266]

@@yeayou1221 Same thing happens in the Autumns - SH are getting tired whilst NH are fresh but have had less time together. Hopefully a global calendar will see NH and SH peaking at similar times so teams can play at similar levels of readiness.

[@KewKew-do3kq]

Strange how Ireland beat NZ in NZ in the later games

[@spottersworld3135]

@@KewKew-do3kqred cards beat nz in nz

[@MitchellCryer]

Love this show! Great to see you interview Ardie. One of the all time greats! Much love from RSA🇿🇦

[@zaderickisaak4590]

People expecting the All Blacks to click immediately is unfair. Remember this is the first game under a new coaching staff that just had to keep it simple enough to give us a chance to win. Start comparing them to sides like SA and Ireland after the series. Give the team time to gel and see what a formidable side we going to be. Up the ABs🇳🇿🖤

[@ManaBlack208]

Yeah I agree incredibly critical for a first outing these people have serious personal issues my goodness but if we don't win the rugby championship it's gonna be a huge fail for everyone involved with this ABs side

[@dairet1945]

Robertson is the most hyped ABs coach in the last 40 years, I think some NZ fans will need to revise expectations a touch. There are four teams in world rugby now that are as good as or better than NZ. Ireland, France, England and SA, there is only so much Robertson can do as a coach to change that.

[@camwells9726]

It’s always been that way but the problem now is there are more good teams than there used to be ,the competition is much tougher now

[@dulls8475]

@@dairet1945 I am an England fan for my sins. I dont think England are there yet. We have a very below par front row. It has been an issue since 2019.

[@dulls8475]

England are also at the end of a 13 month season.

[@michaelhussey440]

Good to see the respect these guys have for our team. At Eden Park it will be much tougher again and could be a comfortable AB win. For the return game at Twickenham in the autumn I think England could come out on top.

[@salomiodendaal4473]

Do you get the same respect for the ABs on SA sport broadcasts?

[@kundayisauti1367]

I think that one of the biggest reasons the AB's are failing to beat rush defences is around the number 10 and 12 combinations. Number 10's, recent AB's 10's have beeen fullbacks who are moving to number 10. This is why Beauden B, struggled with rush defence. Fullbacks, are used to have a litlle bit more time and space. Natural 10's were Carter, Cruden, Lima. Mounga was affected by what was happeing at 12. Remembr D Carter, always used to say they when he was in trouble he woud just pass the ball to Ma'a Nonu. Number 12's: Nonu used to break the line whenever he had the ball in hand. 90% of the time he would beat the first defender with power, step and speed. It used to take on average 2 to 3 defenders to deal with 1 Ma'a Nonu break, so the defences had no time to rush out, they were always on the back foot. Jodie is another 12 who was a fullback, like Havilli. Jodie can be a bit static and indecisive, hence the last worldcup final Peter-Steph du Toit targerted him and was sucessful at all times. AB's badly need a 12 who is quick and can break the gain line all the time, like Aki has been doing for 'Ireland'. This will help DMac a lot as a 10.

[@Dilmahkana]

But also more simply, we don't often play off 9. Players learn, our players learn well. No person's learning is static.

[@rugby-one0one]

Some one like Aumua could do that job but it is also the role of the forwards and the scrumhalf to make defenders think about when to shoot or not - a good running scrumhalf does a lot to help rush D

[@stephenbaxter5804]

I honestly think Ireland should have won that game if not for a few errors, 2 denied tries. James Lowe had a rollercoaster. Great try ruled out, unlucky ball put inside that SA then score from, touches the ball and grounds it from the kick off, which results in a pushover scrum try, rather than them having a scrum on halfway. What i think hasnt been highlighted about NZ v England was the discipline. No yellows at all, where as there we're one a piece in both the Aus v Wales and SA v Ire games.

[@cecilpaulse2401]

as if the Boks didnt miss a few chances as well

[@brianzungu3249]

Ireland won more turnovers because 6 and 7 were playing wider. Rassie must fix that and we will be really hard to beat.

[@LeMerch]

Ireland also handed SA 14 free points thanks to 2 major mistakes by Lowe. Which are unusual. I think SA has been lured into a false state of confidence.

[@kristian762]

Ja we need to find the balance between this new style off attack while still staying true to our DNA. We'll see how this pans out, but it was easy to see that the guys aren't comfortable yet with the new systems

[@bjoreil]

You are already really hard to beat.

[@leonsnyman2315]

@@LeMerch don't think so mate SA was the better team

[@Edgycoo]

the big takeaway was we changed plan to deal with rush D. The only problem was, it wasnt done by the players automatically, it happened after half time when they were probably told to. But hopefully this opens eyes in the abs team that on field smarts means playing or adapting to what is in front of you and showing your opponent different looks

[@rodeo4786]

I agree the great all black teams of 2o11 - 2o15 had ability to recognize when things weren't working and make adjustments that's where the leaders stepped in its only their 1st so hopefully the skip and his 2ICs will recognize

[@danhursty6684]

Happy enough with Saturdays test, gutted for TJP, surprised Fakatava isn't the injury cover but I guess there is a maximum of 1 Highlander allowed in this years ABs

[@ManaBlack208]

Typical crusaders bias

[@JamesSmith-qr7be]

Noah Hottam is very good but that will become clear over time I predict he will be 1 or 2 next world cup

[@ManaBlack208]

@JamesSmith-qr7be With no experience at world cups?oh boy here we go again we'll most probably miss out again

[@rory7590]

Next year might be the Highlander’s year. JJ back on board as Head Coach and, possibly, the eligible selection of Fabien Holland for a start...

[@JamesSmith-qr7be]

@ManaBlack208 if you couldn't select ABs who have never been to a WC then how would you develop new players? It's year 1 of a WC cycle and Aaron Smith is gone . . . Stupid comment.

[@korocam9137]

Good on you guys, another quality discussion.

[@stumpynuts]

ABs midfield, hear me out. Rieko -12 ALB/Proctor - 13 Like many - I have to agree that centre isn't Rieko's best position, but in saying that I feel he should move in one position. 12 allows him to use his speed and power to punch through over the gain line crash and bash style like Nonu used to do. He could potentially offload to his 13 who can then distribute to back 3. ALB style of play is complementary to Rieko, in that ALB isn't a crash and bash style player, he has a better grasp of organising backline attack/defense lines, better distributor to wingers. Proctor - Similar style of play as ALB. Both ALB & Proctor are like the Conrad Smith style of player that would complement Rieko's Nonu style of play.

[@user-eh9li5tx7h]

Do only South Africans watch this show? Good one guys! Much more balanced and watchable than the other NZ show. Keep it up.

[@Natedawg38]

Did not seem like CD was hassling the ref. I think he picked up on the fact that Ireland were not getting any of the 50 50s and thats frustrating. Usually i like luke pierce but he - and the tmo - were pretty rancid on Saturday for the important calls. You can argue all of them but when craig casey is getting oxygen and the guy barely looks at the replay thats pretty bad.

[@jakemiddleton5266]

As an England fan I really felt Borthwick made some bad calls in the last 20. Both teams moved to a territory game, but NZ really did it better. Beauden Barrett really is an ace to bring on at 15 - his kicking variety and accuracy is incredible. Compare that to England where Spencer was kicking too long to compete, maximising the time to kick back or run / pass away from the corners where we were trying to pin the All Blacks in. That led to penalties - 6 in the last 20 vs 2 in the first half. Taking off your captain, 9 and 10 really told. I'd have kept all of them on - Mitchell's kicks were better, George would have added experience and Marcus Smith has the ability to counter attack that Finn Smith just doesn't. If anything, England should have seen the All Blacks tightening up, and responded by being a bit more expansive. Our backs in particular are really inexperienced but, unlike previous years, there are a lot of playmakers and great runners with the ball. Felt like an opportunity missed because we were focused on being hard to beat, rather than winning. I expect the All Blacks to keep improving as they have more time together, so England will really need to step up next game or risk losing with a more comfortable score line.

[@WibbleRugby]

You nailed it about Spencer. The drop off in ability to get out of our half between Mitchell and Spencer is immense. We never had a chance in the last 20 with kicks like that as you said.

[@liberateyourslack]

That's a really good point, Barrett was certainly a cut above his opposite. I also thought that Christie added a lot with his box kicking - before he came on the All Blacks were the ones kicking long and too far away from anyone coming through to put pressure on Furbank. His box kicks brought Reece into the game with the kick chase and allowed the All Blacks to add pressure to the territory game.

[@richardscanlan3419]

@@liberateyourslack not a Barrett fan,I think he's past his best.But I have to hand it to him,his kicking game in the last 20 was on point.Kept England pinned in their own 22.

[@danielbeckley6586]

There is, and has been, quite a lot of chat about Damian McKenzie not being an international level 10. I've been inclined to agree, despite him being an obviously very skilled and brave player. But how much of that reputation do you think might be because the All Blacks, within their previous coaching setups, haven't structured their play around his style/skillset? And do you think this will change under the new guard?

[@subhuman119]

Here's a question regarding the South Africa v Ireland game. The moment in the game when the ball its kicked, and James Lowe trys to bat it back into play. The TMO was focusing on his hand touching the ball. But the ball actually brushes up against his leg, (You actually see his shorts move from the ball making contact, when viewed in slow motion) when his foot is clearly out of play. Does that mean the ball is out of play, and therefore the ball is dead. If that is the case, then the TMO botched this one, and it should have never been a try?

[@LeMerch]

I think so. Sadly he made a second mistake in not letting the ball go out when SA kicked it, kept it in play and gave SA a scrum which they got a penalty try from. Ireland handed SA 14 free points. That’s why I look at that game as something that could have went to Irelands favour very easily and Ireland have always done this.. they either stay on top of the scoreline or if they don’t, they stay in it right up until the last few minutes and find a way to win it which they also nearly done. I think this next game is gonna be a lot different than most South Africans expect..

[@philipmcdonald7370]

Yes, he was out once the ball touched his leg. But overall SA deserved the win. We were chasing the game for most of it, had a purple patch in the 2nd and quietened the Loftus crowd but couldn't capitalise. Hopefully a good video review will have us in better shape in Durban 👍☘

[@aaronmckechnie4467]

Good ep! James has a good picture of the game. Big up Ardie, great to see him back and playing for our favourite All Blacks.

[@nicholas8257]

All the critique against the ABs. That's unfortunately what you guys get for being the overall top dogs, a high standard is placed on the ABs, despite all the relevant factors being ignored such as new management and fresh ABs compared to the veteran English. Smash the northerners brothers! 🇿🇦💪

[@kev63inuk]

Not many veterans in this England team my friend .

[@duncanwcraig9668]

Come on boys. Fiji winning in Georgia and Romania winning in the US of A.

[@winstonstowers9121]

If we put a centre flatter and have the front door back door with the 2nd 5 would that not solve the rush D, as it creates a 1 on 1 for the centre's every time? This is a forward asking. Even if you put a lossie running that line

[@garthelleray3970]

I feel A big mistake was omitting Sotutu when it comes to go forward.He excelled at that this year & not scared of the hard work.

[@CoolCoyote]

love ardie awsome player and guy, part of that is cos of wellington still a good vibe here.

[@ChristyKrohne]

As a Bok supporter, I'm more worried about this second game considering we got away with some refereeing blunders the first game. Ireland easily is in a position to upstage us.

[@LeMerch]

What I find crazy is that Ireland play until the very last second. They have a history of staying in games then winning them last second. I think they handed SA 14 points for free, easy points off the back of 2 wild mistakes by James Lowe. SA took those chances so all credit to SA. It just makes me feel that Ireland are not the type of team anyone can put too many points on. They find ways to score and they don’t give up it’s crazy.

[@ChristyKrohne]

@@LeMerch Absolutely! We will have to move up a couple of gears if we want to beat Ireland this coming weekend. They will be confident I tell you knowing what transpired in the first game. I cant believe that the refereeing were so poor. Even the TMO didn't pick up a couple of this that even me picked up like a couple of neck rolls from a Bok player. We were very fortunate t get away with so many indiscretions. Gone are the days when Nations like South Africa and NZ and Australia just turn up for games and the rest will sort itself out. The Northern hemisphere are here to play rugby and to make a point. And rightly so.

[@petes9524]

How many kicks did Handrè miss again?

[@Coreylahey1000]

​@petes9524 how many kicks did Crowley miss? Let's hope the 2nd Test is amazing all round

[@petes9524]

@@Coreylahey1000 if all missed kicks and disallowed tries reversed, Boks still win..

[@rorysullivan4913]

Very good podcast. Pleased the "Breakdown" is showing some sense in their comments.

[@RozWentworth]

Love your podcast and read on games...well done Sourhwrn Hemisphere teams...VIVA AMABOKKE

[@Godisgood1980SA]

I love how all of sudden Tony Brown gets all the credit for Boks creative performance 😱🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@emmanuelkawadza]

@SkySportNZ please may you show more animation on your screens when you breakdown and explain plays. Thank you.

[@julianalderson3938]

Cheers great interview. Thanx ardie'

[@Godisgood1980SA]

Right now these are the 4 best teams with very little that seperates them

[@martinprinsloo541]

Great podcast and objective evaluations of games. Way better than the ego’s on the other show. Well done guys!

[@tpkorea6c]

NZ and SA better up their games in order to win their 2nd tests! No argument!

[@mikerobertson7082]

Thanks chaps. Great show. My favourite from NZ

[@EGM534]

If only there was a pack in super rugby that was getting dominant carries non stop we could choose players from. I stead of filling the pack with players that were getting run over by them

[@ifgfqageneration6939]

haha perfect!!!!!

[@richardscanlan3419]

the Blues?

[@brianmurray6287]

All the 50/50 calls went to the boks

[@AK-wc9rl]

Tbh they have been heavily favoured by the refs over the last two years. Last year's RWC was a joke in that virtually every marginal call and even some that weren't went SA's way.

[@kristian762]

As a Bok fan, at times I was quite frustrated by Pearce, I thought he was being quite harsh on us with a few calls, favouring Ireland, specially in the first half. Of course I won't argue the TMO calls went our way, but I've never been a fan of Whitehouse anyways.

[@leonsnyman2315]

@@AK-wc9rl bullS**t Ireland has been collapsing scrums many times and don't get penalized falling over rugs so what went SA way

[@leonsnyman2315]

@@kristian762 nothing went SA's way the evidence was there on the camera Louw was not out, infringement was at the rug when Louw scored the try so the TMO wasn't on SA side the evidence is there

[@jkmb5758]

​@@AK-wc9rl Cry me a river! When the call is in your favour, it's 100% correct, but when it goes against you, it's a 50 / 50 call. Why not just say it was 100% wrong!

[@CoolCoyote]

Finau has yet to impress, might be better to bring in Vaii & tuipolotu at lock(even tho vaii isnt a big lock) with scott Barrett at blindside. Is Scot Robertson gonna cope with rush defence by the next world cup? Im a bit worried cos Rassie has bought in Tony Brown for S.A hes the last guy and the last team in the boks I would want in another team. NZRU should have got him. I get the sense coach is gonna use bb off bench a lot going forward even though i think bb is our best goal kicker. Dmac has a harder kicking style rather than bbs straight kick thing. have to say i loved Dmacs performance except goal kicking, he was a god under the highball, great southlander. I think for coach is that we were a knock-on replay away from a rwc win under foster and that regime that was far from perfect.

[@TheMachoManRandySavage]

Only Finau's 2nd test ever. Needs more time in the saddle

[@Sentz89]

Great talk. Like that kumpai rule lol. Up it up! Da boyz

[@eyeofrage7025]

Great Test, Confusing refreeing at the scrums. Really cool to see England run the ball, they got alot of flak for playing anti rugby at the world cup

[@schalkkymdell5941]

Great podcast. Enjoy the unbiased views

[@mgkiwi1958]

Hi chaps. Question for your next podcast. There's a lot of talk around the Boks game etc but do you see them having issues going forward when you conside the age of the team. Only 2 players in the 15 were under 30. Most of the pack are around 32-34 so can't see most of them come next RWC. Do they need to blood more players come the Rugby Championship?

[@ronnievorster6361]

They will i think they just want to get past ireland

[@scooter_nz]

Victor Matfield said on the Breakdown that the new young players will come into the starting team once the Ireland series is finished

[@leoncoetzer]

People forget we play ball in hand as kids, its only really from club and Bok level that it changed. Future-splash, We can revert to expansive play without ditching tradition

[@evancooper7336]

I'm not going to lie, I swear the English were offside half that game... Not sure how they got away with it

[@knucklesaukuso5086]

I agree apart from that they were awesome as for the ABs not bad for the first test of the year only being together for 10 days was quite impressive

[@jesseferguson4269]

Very fine line the legal rush defense but we have struggled with it for years and our failure to negate that and continue with the helter skelter back play has made us incredibly vulnerable. Just look at the 10 or so phases before half time where we were chucking the bal around aimlessly going nowhere. End result 3 points england

[@CoolCoyote]

wonder why iosie has not been talked about in all blacks cos hes as fast if not faster than ardie has good skills too as well as punch

[@Paddythefatty]

They hate the canes bro. Hate to say it but there is definitely a bias against them

[@CoolCoyote]

@@Paddythefatty ugh yeah maybe, i mean funny how it works since there was a bias against canterbury for awhile there.

[@Damcarnivore]

Q. Weren’t half of the French under 20s playing against Argentina?

[@KewKew-do3kq]

Yes

[@HakatimeRugby]

24:21 I see your nattō and I raise you kānga pirau 😆

[@georgesmash3234]

All blacks people need to get patient, its a word that they need get used to. Things are not the same, this transformation will take time. Immediate success wont come because teams have improved and figured out how all blacks play with offloading abilities. This is an era of evolving and implementing new ideas in this team. I'm not surprised by Springboks performance, especially their offense system. They had that in their locker for years but it needed someone to unlock all that potential, which in this case is Tony Brown. He has all the talent in his disposal to make them the best offensive team across the planet. Patience is what we need but its promising from the boys

[@joshhudson7413]

its crazy how many all blacks fans are at razors throat because they didnt win by 50 points. The fact of the matter is the all blacks WON. A win is a win and the all blacks are only going to get better

[@HiMom2024]

You are spot on. There was abit of fozzie hangover in that performance and Razor made the changes really early and changed tactic on the fly. Razor has been preaching we’re gonna play how we need to win games.

[@taraishot100]

If teams have improved so much how did the All Blacks make the World Cup final with their worse team in history if everyone have caught up with our worse imagine our best

[@allroundtv3659]

​@@taraishot100 new Zealand has always been new Zealand, this this team is not worst new Zealand, I would go on and say they are one of the best new Zealand team, the thing Is that rugby has drastically changed in the past few decades, teams have invested more in their players and leagues, so competition is becoming stiff. At the moment rugby is all about fine margins any tier 1 team is beating any team on their day, with the tier 2 teams throwing some upsets. It's not that new Zealand dipped that low, just that other teams also leaped that high.

[@khanyisagusha4336]

Mate you know your rugby

[@mungoblizzard6114]

Razor may need to bring Stern Vern

[@darrenleroux2034]

Kick fest - wasn’t a great spectacle…..

[@user-eq9jv5uf7d]

England rush defense live on the offside line & are very adept at dragging teams into their kind of game..watch their RWC semi final as a clear example.

[@darrenleroux2034]

Agree mate, AB’s have always been great attackers so guess we expected them to cope better with the rush defence. I’m sure under Razor that will be the case shortly, he’s the right man for the job!

[@Godisgood1980SA]

​@@user-eq9jv5uf7dso true

[@dillanarendse9730]

Top bloke, Ardie 👌🏾

[@garrymack]

Can I pleeeaase get that intro track

[@Andy_M986]

DMac froze twice in that game, got swamped and went down, so much for handling that rush defence.

[@billybones6137]

As an England fan, I would love to see us win. In reality, I think NZ will win again.

[@RugbyLegends436]

it was a great game watching the British kicking game was on point, but I like how Sevu Reece bodied the English full back 2 times in 2 minutes, the English just did not bring the game back after Marcus Smith was taken off

[@peterp9918]

British????

[@RugbyLegends436]

@@peterp9918my bad english hahahahah

[@Sentz89]

Tj was on!

[@685_Era]

Keep talking about quick line defence why dont the all blacks do the same amd why dont we find a way to counter that. It just goes on and on🙄

[@ManaBlack208]

Yeah they still havent come up with anything safe yet better learn quick becoz south africa will monster us. wat I found is that they're going wide way too early instead of having 12 crash first then try it

[@matthall6743]

Caleb Clark needs to play as does Blackadder

[@StephenBrown-vh8mz]

The southern guys fought to get the worst cup and in dur course professionalism this would level the whole playing field and now the northern guys have bridged the gap with the boks with s foot in both camps south Africa beat France by 1 and England and nz also nz bt England by one Ireland bt south Africa by five and then lose by 7 its literally anyones game when the top teams play

[@tommywhite2410]

Dunedin hammerheads chip season coming up🙏🏆

[@Andy_M986]

Flat doesn't work the deeper your backline, the further they have to go to get to you,at least you have more time to react, a flat Backline can end up with the players being bunched up, like they were in that test.

[@mungoblizzard6114]

Rush Defence is the All Blacks Kryptonite

[@Thewallabie]

All Blacks are just on a different level.Wallabies will up the ladder rankings more

[@rikkimason54]

Why do they still reward the 'fair catch' it seems like a bit of a cop out, for one it would speed the game up and two it would create pressure on the catcher knowing he doesn't have that option potentially spill the ball and create a scoring opportunity, everytime its called i'm like why? Putting the defence under pressure is the whole point of the game...am i missing something here?

[@nepiahemopo1702]

Yeah, but the pressure should always be there no matter what. Just rewards for handling it.

[@shawnmbo2859]

At this point the AB's just need to get a South African "regte" scrum coach in the setup somewhere, because it's evident the other teams have huge forwards and gain advantages with that.

[@salomiodendaal4473]

Get real, the AB scrum is one of the best in the world.

[@jamiebanks4939]

In the last five encounters with England, New Zealand hasn't won by more than 3 points. What has made the English so difficult to put away?

[@louispieterse2357]

loose the earing champ jeeeezzzz you wan tto give the Boks more courage - keep doing this

[@bradleybeukes-fp6qk]

Getting some views from putting the springboks name on it, I promise you, coach rassie is watching

[@TaniTaniwha]

The Blues are done for the year but Parsons is still beating their drum, including promoting their AB representation

[@andyfrizzell4352]

Feeling a bit delicate?

[@IronCross666]

Hey Ardie, PSD is waiting for you....

[@kristian762]

See, 1 point wins arent all that bad hey?

[@honahwikeepa2115]

Kia ora from Sydney

[@mjribes]

Kia Picanto from South Korea 😉

[@SHONTAYNERURU-POHATU]

What a Voiiibe at the start 😎🤣

[@saadiq63]

Bryn Hall 6x super rugby winner??

[@Geezweez788]

This thing of having south African teams playing overseas has me confused. For years Ive always wanted the southern hemisphere teams to win but I find myself wishing England and Wales take their second tests.

[@christiaanliebenberg5645]

“Contestible kicks” sounds like Springboks of last year! As does Englands rush defence 🤔

[@JUSTCHILLIN862]

REAL ANALYSIS 💯 lets GO BLACK 💪 😎👌

[@jasonbell1819]

When the sprinboks kick it "boring" but when England and NZ do it its called tactical kicking😅

[@michaelbaxter7452]

Nz so boring

[@NZAlex1987]

On the breakdown, Viktor Matfield said the Boks tend to kick more contestables, instead of kicking long. Personally, I think contestables are certainly NOT boring

[@Qminnie1]

Exactly Jason! These guys need to make up their minds.

[@user-eq9jv5uf7d]

@@Qminnie1 Please provide link to these guys describing the Boks as boring.

[@kristian762]

​@Qminnie1 ja good point, I think these guys are always a lot more balanced in their analysis. I guess us SA fans are lumping all AB pundits in with Wilson and Kirwin. It's sad to say a lot of us are just a bit too sensitive... probably the ones who never actually played rugby

[@rabbitss11]

4 metres per carry is deemed the acceptable average, 2.3 just isn't enough

[@kainoizking]

South Africans have infested the comment section already I see 😂 wHeN we do iT iTs bOrInG faaarkup lmao when have you ever heard Bryn or Jippa have negative opinions of the Springboks? Why would you ever take John Kirwin’s opinions and apply it to all kiwis? Just once try to watch rugby analysis without victimising yourselves, it’s really cringe.

[@user-eq9jv5uf7d]

These guys have never dissed SA..Bok fans insecure AF.

[@ianjacobs2998]

South African have gone overboard a bit .I think it because of SIR K 🤮 . I personally think we S.Africans think very highly of the N.ZEALANDERS and the All Blacks!!

[@michellerobertson3268]

So don't tar all Springbok fans with the same brush?

[@user-eq9jv5uf7d]

@@michellerobertson3268 Do us all a favor and call out the trolls, they are giving good SA fans a bad rep.

[@kainoizking]

@@michellerobertson3268 bro they flood every comment section with the same nonsense talking points constantly. I think I can be excused from not writing a disclaimer that it’s not “every single springbok fan” 😂 it’s a very vocal majority and everyone is sick of it.

[@sakikou7486]

savea 😊❤

[@77erich]

Love this one pod, far better than Boldy and Kirwan moaning all the time 😴

[@caesarforlife1663]

It seems like the ABs haven't changed their tactics since 2017. Rush defense,?? Never heard of it. 😂

[@alfredwitana7322]

England has had 6 games already havnt they lol mean 1st game

[@Canvashed]

Long season England are tired. Haven't played together since March, until Japan. If your going make up BS excuses let's go😂

[@HiMom2024]

It was there 8th game. All Blacks only 10 days in camp.

[@brownebrowne4393]

All Blacks will win there game, now Razor can see where and how the team can play

[@jenlab4343]

England suddenly a good team

[@user-sd5xe5dz2t]

Huh??? Will they be upset??? That's a dumb question. Will there be an upset...

[@markrutherford6010]

Rugby simple game.Your forwards must get over the advantage line before you go wide. English were great spoilers in the rucks and line outs.Itoje was absolute nuisance. The All Blacks need to sort this out.

[@nicobr00]

Where is Sir Kirwan, would love to hear his take on the AB's new kicking game.

[@HeeniKeke]

Def not interested in Kirwans opinions or thoughts

[@korocam9137]

He’s on the Breakdown, another NZ rugby program.

[@washerdryer3466]

They still don't rate the Irish. So bitter.

[@MainMan13]

Ardie has had more interviews than the actual All Blacks captain.....he should have been the captain from the start typical Crusaders x coach 🤦🏽‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️🤡

[@patrickgrogan3578]

The ABs will only get stronger I wouldn't be writing them off.