Carl Froch picks his Top 5 Super Middleweights of ALL-TIME 👊

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@abohsukampret
@abohsukampret 4 жыл бұрын
1. Carl 2. Froch 3. The Cobra 4. The One Who Knocked Out George Groves 5. In Front Of 80,000 People In Wembley.
@kenaddoh4693
@kenaddoh4693 4 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@user-zm9gc1kt8b
@user-zm9gc1kt8b 4 жыл бұрын
I loved that one mate ! So true
@richiebba8611
@richiebba8611 4 жыл бұрын
Lost his first match against groves should of been counted out
@LadooCrew
@LadooCrew 3 жыл бұрын
You got it spot on !
@brandnew9834
@brandnew9834 3 жыл бұрын
Lol
@danolive5307
@danolive5307 4 жыл бұрын
The fact he put himself and Kessler over eubank, benn and Collins, Christ he loves himself
@chriswilliamson7694
@chriswilliamson7694 4 жыл бұрын
Froch's record at Super-Middleweight piddles all over Collins' and Eubank's, and is better than Benn's, too.
@twal-wo6yh
@twal-wo6yh 4 жыл бұрын
Froch deserves to be higher than those three, just better resume Kessler debatable
@DoFi12
@DoFi12 4 жыл бұрын
Lol Froch is better than those 3. Dont let the hype and memories deceive you. His CV is miles better
@CoachkelvinM41
@CoachkelvinM41 4 жыл бұрын
Froch had the 3rd best record possiblity 2nd because Roy didn't fight many at super. But I'd agree with Johnny and matt
@CeeJayVisual
@CeeJayVisual 4 жыл бұрын
Tony Bellend how can benn be considered British level :S he beat Gerald McLellan
@jameshutchinson6273
@jameshutchinson6273 4 жыл бұрын
What a complete melt Carl is I've met lemons less bitter! Bang average fighter with a world class chin. His key advantage was having a nose that kept most fighters out of jabbing distance!
@punkoid76
@punkoid76 4 жыл бұрын
James Hutchinson “average” give over man, just because he disses JC at every opportunity it doesn’t take away from his record against higher level fighters.
@adamthomas8077
@adamthomas8077 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah froch wasn't average man, maybe his boxing IQ/skills weren't brilliant, but as a fighter he was special down to his chin and heart
@chrisnoble2084
@chrisnoble2084 4 жыл бұрын
Lol hahaha haha his Beak...
@james2091991
@james2091991 4 жыл бұрын
😂😭
@punkoid76
@punkoid76 4 жыл бұрын
GSXR1000 K7 don’t talk shit man, Groves had every opportunity to knock out a Froch that took him lightly and couldn’t, then got knocked spark out in the rematch. RJJ was well past it when JC beat him, so you can hardly claim JC beat the prime RJJ. As for fixing fights, you’re clutching at straws.
@jg2213
@jg2213 4 жыл бұрын
Haha even Johnny was like erm no Carl, Calzaghe would have beat you 😂😂
@neillchippett655
@neillchippett655 2 жыл бұрын
Calzaghe's mother would have beaten Froch, with one hand.
@chrispanteli6626
@chrispanteli6626 7 ай бұрын
Calzaghe is far better than froch he would have beaten him no problem
@SpoonDawg
@SpoonDawg 4 жыл бұрын
"Dan Rafael had Hopkins winning that fight", Dan Rafael also had Wilder beating Fury in their first fight.
@badman8292
@badman8292 3 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@glasschin871
@glasschin871 3 жыл бұрын
Great point
@illmitchjax
@illmitchjax 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine getting put on your arse multiple times and then claiming you were robbed 🤦‍♂️
@ddub5960
@ddub5960 3 жыл бұрын
Really.......did he go missing for 6 rounds??
@chunkyfxdls1878
@chunkyfxdls1878 3 жыл бұрын
@@illmitchjax Only clueless yanks believe he wasn’t robbed 🤦🏻‍♂️
@thecur123
@thecur123 4 жыл бұрын
Joe is still living rent free in carl head all these years later hhaha
@Richard_Straker
@Richard_Straker 4 жыл бұрын
Joe bottled it.
@pb8876
@pb8876 4 жыл бұрын
@@Richard_Straker aye? Frank warren seems to believe froch was offered the fight twice and twice he turned it down. He said this years after his bitter split with calzaghe so wud have no reason to do calzaghe any favours. And you know Warren is usually a bitter resentful man who holds a grudge.
@Steaks652
@Steaks652 4 жыл бұрын
Dream on frock, Joe would have schooled you.
@louisbala2791
@louisbala2791 4 жыл бұрын
Joe just rabbit punched his way and played it safe. Never found him entertaining at all. Him and Robin Reid when pretty boys clash. His strength was that very unorthodox style and rabbit slapped his opponent. Swear his put fake weights in his gloves. Dirty fighter as well. Just didn't rate him
@jeoffbarrat1101
@jeoffbarrat1101 4 жыл бұрын
@@louisbala2791 are you black?
@terryduckworth5105
@terryduckworth5105 4 жыл бұрын
Carl mentions Kessler’s hand and not taking anything away from Kessler as he was a machine but Joe Calzaghe fought for years with broken and smashed up hands!!!
@comets00
@comets00 4 жыл бұрын
listen i'm a massive Kessler fan, there were no excuses from him after the Calzaghe fight and that's all that matters not Froch
@terryduckworth5105
@terryduckworth5105 4 жыл бұрын
comets00 👍
@keithcampbell6806
@keithcampbell6806 Жыл бұрын
Kessler in his prime beat Froch. Joe beat Kessler in his prime. Carl was taylor made for someone like. In my opinion Joe would've beaten him even worse than he did Lacy Froch would've been too brave for his own good. Joe by ko or wide unanimous decision.
@phillipcarlroberts4640
@phillipcarlroberts4640 4 жыл бұрын
How deluded does Froch have to be to put himself in 3rd LOL, he would be lucky to make the top 10.
@DoFi12
@DoFi12 4 жыл бұрын
Behave yourself! Froch is comfortably top 5.
@phillipcarlroberts4640
@phillipcarlroberts4640 4 жыл бұрын
@@DoFi12 Hearns, Jones, Toney , calzaghe, Ward, Collins. Eubank, Benn, McClellan....the list goes on but Froch is nowhere near it.
@BennyBlanco481
@BennyBlanco481 4 жыл бұрын
Hearns has 3 fights at super middle and Mclellan 1 you moron.
@smartmoney101tv2
@smartmoney101tv2 4 жыл бұрын
He’s a fighter that’s taken punishment won world titles why would he not rank himself in the top 3 gotta be a fan of yourself nothing wrong with that.
@CoachkelvinM41
@CoachkelvinM41 4 жыл бұрын
Got to support your Welsh mate and yes I'd have calzaghe 3rd think he would out point froch but froch is in the top 5 he has the 2nd best resume at super to ward. Eubank and Benn ran from James Toney fought noone elite
@firecook4848
@firecook4848 4 жыл бұрын
Chris Eubank had a Granite chin and he said that Joe hit him as hard as anybody else’s
@derekathomson
@derekathomson 3 жыл бұрын
Perhaps Joe's hands got worse over time and so he started to punch lighter over the years?
@muttleybn8007
@muttleybn8007 3 жыл бұрын
@@derekathomson Exactly that.
@tonyh8965
@tonyh8965 3 жыл бұрын
He also said Benn hit the hardest.
@storiesofintrigue1605
@storiesofintrigue1605 4 жыл бұрын
You can tell he feels threatened by Calzaghe.. He’s not giving him the credit he deserves.
@obitriceforlife5771
@obitriceforlife5771 2 жыл бұрын
Froch fought better competition with in prime fighters.
@hambutty1
@hambutty1 2 жыл бұрын
@@obitriceforlife5771 Prime fighters AVOIDED Calzaghe. Bernard Hopkins, 2002. backed out of a fight after agreeing a purse. Jermaine Taylor in his prime at Middleweight was another who refused to fight at 168 until Calzaghe was gone
@hambutty1
@hambutty1 2 жыл бұрын
@@obitriceforlife5771 Prime Lacy. At the time, he fought Calzaghe, the whole of the USA was raving about him. Can you name ONE Froch opponent who had such a groundswell of support? name one Froch opponent where before the fight, everyone was saying "a bridge too far for Froch" Who did Froch fight that was a bigger challenge than Kessler was supposed to be for Calzaghe? Dont say Kessler, or Ward. They dont count..... They beat him lol
@bengraham878
@bengraham878 2 жыл бұрын
@@hambutty1 Lacy had never faced world class opposition. Who did ever beat of note before or after his fight with Calzaghe? He had a lot of hype because of a lot of early KOs against low level opposition. Bute was the same when Froch absolutely destroyed him. Bute was the favourite against Froch, unbeaten and ranked No1 in the world, above Ward at the time. Although Bute actually had far better names on his record than Lacy.
@FirstLast-yc9lq
@FirstLast-yc9lq Жыл бұрын
@@bengraham878 Lacy has said Calzaghe beat him so bad his confidence was shot - not to mention, Lacy had surgery on his shoulder and lost that big left hook that got him to that Calzaghe fight. He was a shot fighter mentally and physically after Calzaghe. It is what it is.
@alonzostainbank
@alonzostainbank 4 жыл бұрын
So bitter this man is 😂 stop insulting Calzaghe. Respect the man.
@GT-wo2oj
@GT-wo2oj 4 жыл бұрын
Carl thinks him vs Calzaghe is the debate! Lol it’s not up for debate. The real debate is Calzaghe vs Ward. You know Ward, the guy that beat you?
@tommy2guns220
@tommy2guns220 4 жыл бұрын
Bang on the money tht has always been my supermiddleweight dream fight love to debate about it I think joe would have beaten ward aswel but it would of been close but speed and work rate would of seen his hands raised
@drn3081
@drn3081 4 жыл бұрын
Bruv Ive had a few lines 2night and still agree with what you said son. But Calzaghe was a great fighter. Have a good one bruv
@luke-tm3ef
@luke-tm3ef 4 жыл бұрын
Ward walks through Calzage
@peterwaldie4478
@peterwaldie4478 4 жыл бұрын
Froch got owned by ward. Totally SCHOOLED. CALZAGHE V WARD would be the best v the best
@terryduckworth5105
@terryduckworth5105 4 жыл бұрын
luke starmer 🤥
@rosscowan3612
@rosscowan3612 4 жыл бұрын
The only person who thinks Froch beats Calzaghe is Froch
@conordownes6860
@conordownes6860 4 жыл бұрын
Yes
@ademkhan5024
@ademkhan5024 4 жыл бұрын
Joe would have beat Froch and his brother together!
@cindygirlification
@cindygirlification 4 жыл бұрын
Agree but Froch was much more entertaining by refusing to slip punches and meating out brain damage to anyone who wanted to swap neurons for cash 👍
@jketcham9004
@jketcham9004 4 жыл бұрын
@Zx10r 08 Stevie wonder ain't blind. Seriously
@crackfox5009
@crackfox5009 3 жыл бұрын
Jones jnr.would have beaten them both on the same night,, if in his prime.🥊
@kevinmoses8731
@kevinmoses8731 4 жыл бұрын
4:23 froch “you love that top five don’t ya” the silence says no we’re embarrassed and we wish we wasn’t here , what a joke froch is
@wetdogify
@wetdogify 3 жыл бұрын
I'll always remember when froch beat 80,000 fans at wembley infront of george groves
@momo15boss1
@momo15boss1 4 жыл бұрын
Froch putting himself ahead of Cazaghe 😂😂😂 Get off the ale ladl
@punkoid76
@punkoid76 4 жыл бұрын
momo15boss1 better wins, regardless of how a fight between the two would’ve gone. Froch, hands down, had a better run of top level fights even though he lost two.
@tomohara4433
@tomohara4433 4 жыл бұрын
I argee, Carl was my hero when I was growing up, but I think Joe is would of just been to clever for him
@darrenkhan6041
@darrenkhan6041 4 жыл бұрын
Joe just could adapt better than Carl. Carl comes square on, calzaghe creates angles and I think there fight would of gone similar to the calzaghe lacy fight.
@kungpowmike9799
@kungpowmike9799 4 жыл бұрын
momo15boss1 I totally agree with Karl about cazaghe.. and I’ve said it for years.. Karl has a better boxing record looking at he’s opponents compared to joes
@punkoid76
@punkoid76 4 жыл бұрын
Darren Khan Froch is 100x better than Lacy. Froch v Calzaghe would have been a great fight, it’s the fans who were robbed when Joe decided to take on Hopkins and RJJ in rather pointless fights, and he almost lost to Hopkins. He should’ve fought Froch, that way none of this debate would be happening.
@Griggadee
@Griggadee 4 жыл бұрын
Froch can undermine Calzaghe's record and opponents all he wants, but Calzaghe would have beaten Froch easily, ALL DAY LONG. Wonder how those lemons taste...
@pablohanc
@pablohanc 4 жыл бұрын
Agree. I'm not a huge JC fan, but he'd beat froch. As would prime Eubank, Watson and Benn.
@AlienApe.
@AlienApe. 4 жыл бұрын
100% obvious envy here from Froch. Worlds apart in class here.
@kinger5542
@kinger5542 4 жыл бұрын
100% agree mate. They say he had no power. Must have been watching a different Calzaghe!
@sasfunc6170
@sasfunc6170 4 жыл бұрын
I'd be surprised if Froch could lay a glove on him.
@psycho3344
@psycho3344 4 жыл бұрын
Calzaghe would beat froch with 1 bad hand...
@jakeeasom
@jakeeasom 4 жыл бұрын
Froch is still so bitter about Calzaghe 😂😂😂 surprised he didn't put himself at #1 😂
@eggfooyungface673
@eggfooyungface673 4 жыл бұрын
Must have been a devastating thing for him to do you know on his real list he's number one
@toolate7251
@toolate7251 4 жыл бұрын
egg fooyungface lol
@eggfooyungface673
@eggfooyungface673 4 жыл бұрын
I rate him but he should have shown groves some respect after the first fight, because he could have without doubt been finished in the first round
@jadenplays6095
@jadenplays6095 4 жыл бұрын
@@toolate7251 👍👍
@jakeeasom
@jakeeasom 4 жыл бұрын
As someone who's from near Nottingham I used to love Froch when he was fighting, and was so happy when he knocked out Groves (in front of 80,000 at Wembley lol), but now both have retired I find myself liking Groves more and Froch much less. I found it funny when they were on a show together and Groves comes out with "I retired Carl Froch at Wembley in front of 80,000 people" 😂
@robbraz1
@robbraz1 4 жыл бұрын
Carl is so salty over joe, Still lives in Carl’s head rent free 😝
@megadave1197
@megadave1197 3 жыл бұрын
Not salty just stating facts. I think it’s the other way round hence why Joes life has gone off the rails since he retired. Carl is as arrogant now as he was when he started. He’s comfortable in life and he’ll always put those digs in on Joe because he knows it irritates Joe. Rent free. Literally no one pays Joe to do an interview where as Carl is getting a fee every time he has a dig.
@lennon2turnt15
@lennon2turnt15 3 жыл бұрын
@@megadave1197 Joe would have had Froch at any point of his career tho, regardless of fame and fortune that hasn’t nothing to do with his skill which was far superior to Froch.
@lloydwaycott8178
@lloydwaycott8178 Жыл бұрын
@@megadave1197 This wasn't about personality or character, it was about ability in the ring, and Froch is nowhere near top 5. He couldn't live with any of the others mentioned here. Total joke.
@brandnewday2750
@brandnewday2750 4 жыл бұрын
"Mediocacy." - Carl Froch
@g-man4297
@g-man4297 4 жыл бұрын
Salty Carl putting himself ahead of one of the U.K. greats in Joe Calzaghi , Joe would have boxed his head off.
@wtf5410
@wtf5410 4 жыл бұрын
Calzaghe would have destroyed Froch, what a bitter fool.
@kyran333
@kyran333 4 жыл бұрын
Froch was tough, but he was also one of the thickest boxers out there, I real Northern twat
@andrewatkin2629
@andrewatkin2629 4 жыл бұрын
Froch would of smoked his boots.
@JohnSmith-bm6zg
@JohnSmith-bm6zg 3 жыл бұрын
Who are you lol
@aidanthe88
@aidanthe88 4 жыл бұрын
Carl Froch has some deep seeded resentment towards Joe Calzagie. It's pathetic
@palatialpetals
@palatialpetals 4 жыл бұрын
tbf he was desperate for that fight and joe ducked him 🤷‍♂️
@wtf5410
@wtf5410 4 жыл бұрын
@@palatialpetals Calzaghe would have easily beaten him, too bad Calzaghe was at the end of his career when Froch was interested.
@drn3081
@drn3081 4 жыл бұрын
Calzaghe the type of guy that you will see if your local boozer on a friday, and be in the gym on Monday getting ready to smack Froch about. Its a fact. The only thing I like is Carl Frock missus, she definitely takes it up the asss
@palatialpetals
@palatialpetals 4 жыл бұрын
@@wtf5410 guessing is a giid game but the reality is froch chased calzaghe for years and joe ducked him and thats' facts
@punkoid76
@punkoid76 4 жыл бұрын
PALATIAL PETALS these Calzaghe worshipers conveniently ignore the fact that Froch was screaming for the fight and Joe decided to run to America to fight a couple of has beens after a decade of facing mediocre opposition in his home country. If Froch had done that when Groves was chasing him they would be calling him a coward for ducking Groves. I liked Calzaghe, but his record is overrated given some of his opponents. Byron Mitchell floored him and so did a faded RJJ, now imagine a young, hungry Froch in with him and these “boxing experts” think Calzaghe was untouchable. Would’ve been a great fight if Calzaghe had taken it, a Battle of Britain that would’ve been a classic.
@myuncle2
@myuncle2 4 жыл бұрын
Calzaghe's engine was something that would punish/disappoint any fighter, also he was very quiet, probably that's why is so underrated..
@megadave1197
@megadave1197 3 жыл бұрын
Quiet? He’s as arrogant as Carl. Only difference is Carl has the resume to back it up. Joe’s best fight was Kezler.
@Ben-wc3wk
@Ben-wc3wk 4 жыл бұрын
Calzaghe wipes the floor with Froch
@ClickaGeorgestanley78
@ClickaGeorgestanley78 Жыл бұрын
All day everyday
@davidfoster2563
@davidfoster2563 Жыл бұрын
In front of 80 000 George Groveses at Wembley.
@damienmooney3342
@damienmooney3342 Жыл бұрын
yeah, but fought Evans Ashira instead .... pathetic resume Calzonie had
@damienmooney3342
@damienmooney3342 Жыл бұрын
10 years of meaningless defences
@richardwatson9653
@richardwatson9653 Жыл бұрын
Don't talk wet, Froch would push Calazaghe to the limit, I'd go with the conensus and lean for a points win for Joe
@wah118
@wah118 4 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised it weren't: 1 Froch 2 Froch 3 Froch 4 Froch 5 Froch
@conogrady9254
@conogrady9254 4 жыл бұрын
It "wasn't"!!!!!!
@christophercannon5761
@christophercannon5761 4 жыл бұрын
More surprised it wasn't 1 Froch 2 Groves 3 Froch 4 Groves 5. Sold out 80000 at Wembley Arena.
@jefriefultonii3666
@jefriefultonii3666 4 жыл бұрын
1. Dylan 2. Dylan 3. Dylan 4. Dylan 5. Dylan
@niuleni
@niuleni 4 жыл бұрын
Froch up
@Eonednb
@Eonednb 4 жыл бұрын
calzaghe would of run rings round froch. a prime calzaghe v a prime froch, the Italian dragon all day long.
@punkoid76
@punkoid76 4 жыл бұрын
Craig Popham run away from Froch would be more accurate.
@johnnydickfingers5277
@johnnydickfingers5277 4 жыл бұрын
Bollocks
@Ajs_1988
@Ajs_1988 4 жыл бұрын
No point in claiming either would win when they never fought. Ali v tyson, sugar Ray v mayweather jr etc
@baconrastas
@baconrastas 4 жыл бұрын
Prime Roy Jones versus anyone on the planet, Roy beats them, regardless of era
@brocksimmons345
@brocksimmons345 4 жыл бұрын
@@punkoid76 Calzaghe never ran from anyone
@Kevin-qm7ic
@Kevin-qm7ic 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine having a career like froch and still being bitter at calzaghe😂
@palatialpetals
@palatialpetals 4 жыл бұрын
tbf he was desperate for that fight and joe ducked him 🤷‍♂️
@jaycawley9246
@jaycawley9246 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine just being kevin ryan
@H.K.5
@H.K.5 4 жыл бұрын
@@palatialpetals Barely anyone even knew who Froch was then.
@jadenplays6095
@jadenplays6095 4 жыл бұрын
@@emanuele1334 Ditto...Joe the best ever...and with damaged knuckles ...😎👊👊
@circle2867
@circle2867 4 жыл бұрын
@@palatialpetals lol what nonsense. calzaghe was on the way to fighting hopkins and roy jones. and you think he ducked carl froch who wasn't even established back then
@robertdixon9701
@robertdixon9701 3 жыл бұрын
Froch forgetting how he was nearly beaten by groves, and needed a ref to call it off too early in the first fight.
@paulevans3754
@paulevans3754 2 жыл бұрын
Bang on the money mate!
@keithcampbell6806
@keithcampbell6806 Жыл бұрын
Excellent point . Froch is too full of himself .
@lastonewon
@lastonewon 4 жыл бұрын
I love hearing Carl Froch's dry humour especially when talking about Joe calzaghe 😅
@Billy2011C
@Billy2011C 4 жыл бұрын
That wasn't humour about Joe, it's pure bitterness and jealousy.
@keithcampbell6806
@keithcampbell6806 Жыл бұрын
Froch is just jealous of the success of the Hall Of Fame career of Joe Calzaghe.
@meandmynine_tm4161
@meandmynine_tm4161 Жыл бұрын
@@keithcampbell6806 froch is a hall of famer too lol
@chrisreidy439
@chrisreidy439 Жыл бұрын
@@keithcampbell6806 Froch fought better fighters...
@Joker-yw9hl
@Joker-yw9hl 4 жыл бұрын
Nelson gets my respect for openly saying that to Froch
@sasfunc6170
@sasfunc6170 4 жыл бұрын
It was kind of like pulling teeth, though. He knows Calzaghe would have had his way.
@alvshill
@alvshill 4 жыл бұрын
Even so Nelson had to be diplomatic to stop Froch bursting into tears
@andrewmcglashan5041
@andrewmcglashan5041 4 жыл бұрын
Froch you Dosser!, you do yourself no favours at all. I respect your achievements in the ring, but out of it, no respect at all.
@adamlees4496
@adamlees4496 4 жыл бұрын
I admire carl's fighting spirit and confidence putting himself in front of calzaghe but his style would have made joe look sensational.joe's sheer punch output,handspeed and smoother movement would have earned him a tough but well deserved decision in the same way ward showed his superiority over carl.
@TheVanillatech
@TheVanillatech Жыл бұрын
PMSL Calzaghe probably the greatest Super Middle ever barring Prime RJJ. BUT you can't ignore the fact that Calzaghe BEAT RJJ! And Joe himself admits, despite him trying to make the fight while RJJ was in his prime, he DOUBTS he would have WON the fight had it happened then! Froch isn't top 5. Top 15 maybe! Calzaghe is 2nd or 3rd. Prime RJJ is 1st.
@SuperChalkster
@SuperChalkster 3 ай бұрын
@@TheVanillatech I agree with you, except for Carl maybe being in top 15. Well thats harsh he is easily top 10. You have to judge him on his achievements and who he fought not on his likeability factor.
@TheVanillatech
@TheVanillatech 3 ай бұрын
@@SuperChalkster I like the guy! However unlikeable he might be. He has a chip on his shoulder but seems to enjoy life. He probably is top 10, but he definitely is top 15.
@kevinwaters60
@kevinwaters60 4 жыл бұрын
Calzaghe lives rent free in Froch's head! He even mistakingly calls out Calzaghe's name when shouting for his wife or kids in the house 😃😅🤣😂😭
@ronr7905
@ronr7905 4 жыл бұрын
"1.Carl Froch 2. Carl Froch 3. Carl Froch 4. Carl Froch 5. George Groves .... 80,000 at Wembley, mate!"
@DanMasterBlaster
@DanMasterBlaster 4 жыл бұрын
Agree with Johnny. Calzaghe wins most rounds on points vs Froch when both in their prime. Similar to every fight Calzaghe won against stronger opponents. Calzaghe had too much speed and always outworked his opponents
@arkroyalrifemoonbasealpha6101
@arkroyalrifemoonbasealpha6101 2 жыл бұрын
Look at Joes record he fought very very few notable fighters and the last 2 on the list were washed up
@terryevans9761
@terryevans9761 Жыл бұрын
​@Ark royal rife moon base alpha washed up or not.. we are judging what they did against who in their respective careers. Who has done better than calzaghe? Not Carl froch that is for damn sure if that's what your aiming at?
@daveroberts6791
@daveroberts6791 Жыл бұрын
@@arkroyalrifemoonbasealpha6101 Calling Calzaghes last two oppenents "washed up" pretty much rules you out of any boxing conversations. After Calzaghe beat him... In Hopkins very next fight he battered Kelly Pavlik, he beat Tavoris Cloud, drew with Chad Dawson.. Oh, and called Froch out.. "Come up to 175 and lets play" said Hopkins. "No thanks" said Froch, who also bottles a rematch with Ward
@arkroyalrifemoonbasealpha6101
@arkroyalrifemoonbasealpha6101 Жыл бұрын
@@daveroberts6791 2 forty odd year old washed up boxers mate and regardless of the decision made by the Judges I had Hopkins well ahead in their fight with an honourable mention of being floored by a near pensioner in boxing terms in the early rounds shower let's look at Joe's CV I see the great Tucker Powell fought him f or his WBO title amongst many other nobody's
@arkroyalrifemoonbasealpha6101
@arkroyalrifemoonbasealpha6101 Жыл бұрын
@@daveroberts6791 Yes ahh the great Tavores a fighter who lost 3 of his 25 fights before retiring having held the IBF title and defending it against the likes of the great Gabriel Campo amongst many other no body`s he wasn`t even washed ley alone washed up
@dawerr8871
@dawerr8871 4 жыл бұрын
Joe's living in that head rent free. calzaghe beats froch easily possibly by late tko
@BernardDonaldson
@BernardDonaldson 4 жыл бұрын
😂 Froch can’t get over Calzaghe...
@Kbanoid
@Kbanoid 4 жыл бұрын
Carl just can't leave calzaghe alone... lockdowns getting to my man.
@xFFSx
@xFFSx 4 жыл бұрын
Chris Eubank's has admitted that Calzaghe's so called little weak slaps hurt him. other fighters have said the same. jeff lacy's resume was pretty good up till the calzaghe fight. with the majority of his opponents having positive records. he was at 20/21 fights undefeated, with the majority of his fights ending in KO or UD. that's not a bad resume. and calzaghe destroyed him. For me Canelo Alvarez, James Toney should be some where in there. froch and kessler shouldn't be on that list of top 5's. maybe top 20's. i like carl, he was a good fighter and a warrior. but this is no way for a warrior to go about. disappointing. wouldn't mind if it was just British banter.
@hambutty1
@hambutty1 2 жыл бұрын
Irrespective of what was said AFTER Joe Calzaghes fight with Lacy. Was Carl Froch ever in a fight where pretty much every pundit and bookie was saying he'd bitten off more than he could chew? Apart from Ward I mean (and they were right) Was Froch ever in another 50-50 With a dangerous unbeaten young World Title holder like Kessler who the pundits thought was a massive test? Was Froch ever in a tougher fight than Calzaghe v Bernard Hopkins at 175? The answer is no
@yobeatthat85
@yobeatthat85 2 жыл бұрын
He knocked 26 or something like that, people out cold so they were hard slaps
@loganandchaseserver260
@loganandchaseserver260 2 жыл бұрын
Carl "the cat" Thompson would have beaten a prime Carl Froch
@loganandchaseserver260
@loganandchaseserver260 2 жыл бұрын
I agree... Lights out Tony and Canelo definitely on the list ahead of Froch and Kessler
@davidstokoe9195
@davidstokoe9195 Жыл бұрын
@@loganandchaseserver260 joe to me has got to be the best British fighter ever, just look wot he has achieved, and the 46 and nill says a lot
@500pints
@500pints 4 жыл бұрын
M8 Smokin Joe Calzaghe best of them all. Heavy handed great work rate.
@gregf8167
@gregf8167 4 жыл бұрын
Nah prime roy jones beats anyone
@meandmynine_tm4161
@meandmynine_tm4161 Жыл бұрын
Heavy handed? Lol
@98jf5
@98jf5 4 жыл бұрын
The fact that Froch has put a WBC belt behind him just sums him up perfectly 😂
@AH-zs5hf
@AH-zs5hf 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, can’t believe he is proud of being world champion.
@alistairhann2094
@alistairhann2094 4 жыл бұрын
@@AH-zs5hf Yep. These guys who risk their lives for our entertainment should at least have the humility to lock their belts away in the basement.
@bazzoman510
@bazzoman510 4 жыл бұрын
God, Carl really hates Calzaghe, doesn't he?
@mattgosling2657
@mattgosling2657 4 жыл бұрын
He does, and andre ward too.
@mrjw6701
@mrjw6701 4 жыл бұрын
He’s bitter and jealous, he’s wasn’t in the same class as Joe.
@timcomley3241
@timcomley3241 4 жыл бұрын
I like Froch but he was not a better fighter than Joe in a million years.
@robcoombes4549
@robcoombes4549 Жыл бұрын
Froch is an amusing caricature and certainly plays into it, but i really feel that both his record as a whole, and the classic nature of a number of his fights individually, deserve more respect!
@joshuawright2030
@joshuawright2030 3 жыл бұрын
The way he makes everything about himself is actually a thing of beauty
@jhnekdn
@jhnekdn 4 жыл бұрын
Ah of course an completely unbeaten hall of famer in joe calzaghe is 4th
@jh4892
@jh4892 4 жыл бұрын
He wasn't better than prime Roy Jones Jr
@phillipcarlroberts4640
@phillipcarlroberts4640 4 жыл бұрын
@@jh4892 Roy Jones fled the division.
@NoneNone-kp1qc
@NoneNone-kp1qc 4 жыл бұрын
J Hussain that's debatable but the facts are JC tried to get the fight when jones and Hopkins were in there prime... we shall never know
@jh4892
@jh4892 4 жыл бұрын
@@NoneNone-kp1qc do you think Calzaghe was better than James Toney?
@lcvillafan
@lcvillafan 4 жыл бұрын
@@NoneNone-kp1qc hopkins won another title 5 years after they fort
@SirSoppyBalls
@SirSoppyBalls 4 жыл бұрын
is this the guy who fought in front of 90,000 fans inside a sold-out Wembley stadium?? looks like the fella!
@muchiosgracias4
@muchiosgracias4 4 жыл бұрын
80 000 helmet
@SirSoppyBalls
@SirSoppyBalls 4 жыл бұрын
dont you know stories get exaggerated as time goes on... i heard it was 90,000...
@Joker-yw9hl
@Joker-yw9hl 4 жыл бұрын
@@SirSoppyBalls I heard it was 800,000
@SirSoppyBalls
@SirSoppyBalls 4 жыл бұрын
@@Joker-yw9hl to be fair... that does sound about right!
4 жыл бұрын
Don't you me 90 trillion
@chrisuk4472
@chrisuk4472 4 жыл бұрын
I agree that Roy Jones junior is number 1. But Froch above Joe?! Come on.
@adamheeley7894
@adamheeley7894 4 жыл бұрын
How do you make Roy no 1 if calzaghe beat him I know Roy was shot but joe was no spring chicken was he
@Ali-ns6fx
@Ali-ns6fx 4 жыл бұрын
@@adamheeley7894 roy in his prime made everyone look like a child. Calzaghe was never on that level of dominance
@dawerr8871
@dawerr8871 4 жыл бұрын
but was prime Roy on the juice? who knows
@Ali-ns6fx
@Ali-ns6fx 4 жыл бұрын
@@dawerr8871 who knows if anyone was at times of less thorough testing, they all could've been? Why run with assumptions?
@chrisuk4472
@chrisuk4472 4 жыл бұрын
There’s no debate. Even tho I’m drunk right now. Roy dominated in multiple weight decisions and his speed was natural, I’m a huge Joe C fan bye the way,
@rabbitpunch3989
@rabbitpunch3989 3 жыл бұрын
Froch number 3 lol 1 Calzaghe 2 Jones Jr 3 Ward 4 Canelo 5 Toney 6 Benn 7 Eubank 8 Collins 9 Kessler 10 Froch
@sujeewasenarathne7603
@sujeewasenarathne7603 4 жыл бұрын
Joe Is a legend. He is fast, determined, crazy, unbeatable and Will definitely beat Cobra like a Mongoose. No doubt.
@burnsymm9874
@burnsymm9874 4 жыл бұрын
Johnny nelson is going to be taken off the Froch Family Christmas card.
@DoN_PaBLo_1989
@DoN_PaBLo_1989 4 жыл бұрын
CALZAGHE WOULD HAVE F*CKED FROCH UP!!!! ALSO A MUCH MORE ENTERTAINING FIGHTER!!!
@Joker-yw9hl
@Joker-yw9hl 4 жыл бұрын
It's actually humorous how he tries to belittle Calzaghe's record
@peaker123
@peaker123 4 жыл бұрын
Calzaghe fought nobody.
@punkoid76
@punkoid76 4 жыл бұрын
It’s true though.
@carlwoods7768
@carlwoods7768 4 жыл бұрын
thomas peaker lol no one baffling everyone avoided him till he got old
@jimcraig6523
@jimcraig6523 4 жыл бұрын
Froch was well beaten by Ward who didn't have the technical skills of Calzaghe so Calzaghe would have beaten Froch easily. To put SOB Ward at number 2 is an absolute disgrace. I watched most of his big fights and what amazed me was why he was never warned or disqualified for head buts wrestling, holding, use of elbows, low blows, in fact, the full repertoire of illegal tactics. This seemed to be the basis of his"skill set" plus a great part of his record relied on more than biased or compliant refereeing and judging.
@richardjones3792
@richardjones3792 Жыл бұрын
Ward was more technical than calzaghe, and I'm welsh.
@Trilltord
@Trilltord 4 жыл бұрын
Calzaghe lives rent free in froch’s head 😂
@darluxr3595
@darluxr3595 4 жыл бұрын
Eubank vs Calzaghe for the WBO title on Prince Naseem Hameds undercard just tells u how great the Prince was 👊🏽
@michaelmoran9399
@michaelmoran9399 4 жыл бұрын
Legend in his own mind ward made him look slow and methodical which he was .Nelson being oh so nice for God sake tell him the truth .He barely makes the top ten .
@JAJDW
@JAJDW 4 жыл бұрын
‘Lacy was a hype job’ - world champion before Calzaghe annihilated him
@mmlentertainment
@mmlentertainment 3 жыл бұрын
Calzaghe beats Hopkins and Jones at a higher weight from memory so how are those fights classed as super middleweight?
@stephen4347
@stephen4347 4 жыл бұрын
Why are we having this discussion?. I know Calzaghe, James Tony, Nigel Benn, Chris Eubank would have stopped the cobra and Canelo on points.
@paulperrin2152
@paulperrin2152 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely
@garrynewnham
@garrynewnham 3 жыл бұрын
Stopped them on points????
@SuperChalkster
@SuperChalkster 3 ай бұрын
cobra beats benn, eubank gives him trouble tho.
@brendanlanders1870
@brendanlanders1870 4 жыл бұрын
Love Froch but come on son calzaghe would of slapped you silly
@GavinJ72
@GavinJ72 4 жыл бұрын
Is Froch being serious? He sounds very bitter about the legend, Joe Calzaghe.
@darrenhill5802
@darrenhill5802 4 жыл бұрын
Bitter contradiction Froch at it again “whopper”
@leethomas9947
@leethomas9947 3 жыл бұрын
1. Jones 2.toney 3.ward 4. Calzaghe 5. Hopkins
@charliealder3522
@charliealder3522 4 жыл бұрын
If froch was around 10/12 years earlier he wouldn't have got past British title level. He should be proud of his own achievements instead of having bitter lemons towards his peers.
@scallyeight
@scallyeight 4 жыл бұрын
can't put Froch in front of Eubank or Benn, jheez. Eubanks beat Watson in that GREAT fight then defended 15 times in a few short years going to Berlin beating 35-0 Rocchi(better than Kessler), draw with WBC king Benn.... Benn took the belt off the champion in ITALY, defences vs Eubank & G-Man, lhws like Piper, Giminez(dropped Duran early) etc no comparison... Also Eubank beat Collins clearly imo
@punkoid76
@punkoid76 4 жыл бұрын
I was a huge fan of Eubank, Benn etc but let’s face it apart from fighting each other they didn’t really take on the other greats of that era like RJJ or Toney or McCallum or Jackson. Froch fought every top fighter of his era and only lost to one without avenging the defeat. Calzaghe ducked Froch, no question. Saying that Benn did fight McClellan.
@scallyeight
@scallyeight 4 жыл бұрын
@@punkoid76 nobody Froch faced was anywhere close to the level of those names,even Ward who ran or held mostly, you didn't see the skills of Mccallum or Toney from him. Imagine or Julian Jackson or Mcclellan hit Froch like Taylor or Groves did,it would be curtains
@scallyeight
@scallyeight 4 жыл бұрын
Roy Jones was Pascal x10000. Can't compare,even when Carl lost he kept getting big fights right after that he didn't deserve, if Eubanks or Benn lost back then they'd b back at bottom of pile earning peanuts,wouldn't need Howard Foster jumping in either
@punkoid76
@punkoid76 4 жыл бұрын
John Dyson Benn fought Barkley and Dewitt in the USA because his stock in the UK dropped after the Watson defeat, hats off to him. Benn was my least favourite at the time but in retrospect he had the most heart and wasn’t afraid of an L on his record. Eubank was great but he should’ve fought in the states against RJJ or Toney or Jackson. Froch is way better than you guys give him credit for, he fought better opponents back to back than all of the others but for some reason this misty eyed nostalgia for the late eighties and early nineties keeps him from being considered great, bollocks. I lived through that whole era and followed boxing closely, Froch would’ve been a tough fight for all of them. Julian Jackson might’ve KO,d him if he landed like he did against the bomber, that would’ve been a great fight if the Hawk was a SMW, but it was a new division back then.
@punkoid76
@punkoid76 4 жыл бұрын
fred callan Benn lost and after four fights had a title shot, Eubank lost and within three fights had another title shot at SMW and back to back title shots at cruiser weight. Your argument holds no water, sorry. It was a different era back then, especially when Benn lost, no PPV to hype fights. Eubank was an early PPV star in the UK so when he lost he was quickly back in contention. Froch was runner up in the super six and his first defeat was in the super six so he was already contracted to fight for another title, if Bute had entered it or if Ward had chosen to fight him after the super six then Froch probably wouldn’t have had the chance to go straight back to the top, that was all down to decisions by Ward and Bute, not Froch’s fault.
@thunder2077
@thunder2077 4 жыл бұрын
if tommy hearns marvin hagler were around in 90s they would beat lot of them
@lemiro13
@lemiro13 4 жыл бұрын
er...wrong weight?
@gregf8167
@gregf8167 4 жыл бұрын
Wrong weight and nobody beats Roy in his prime. Best ever
@jboardy5439
@jboardy5439 3 жыл бұрын
Nope sugar ray Robinson would have took Jones apart. Fact.
@garrynewnham
@garrynewnham 3 жыл бұрын
@@jboardy5439 Robinson was a welterweight ffs. Not the same even at middle.
@jboardy5439
@jboardy5439 3 жыл бұрын
@@garrynewnham That is so, but that wouldn't have hindered such a classy operator as SRR. So many of the A.T.G's performed at several weight classes. The weight difference (in my opinion) would have meant nothing. SRR had enormous strength in both hands. I Stand by my original statement. SRR THE GREATEST. PFP. EVER.
@jamiegriffin4357
@jamiegriffin4357 4 жыл бұрын
Joe beats Froch and I like both fighters.
@eggfooyungface673
@eggfooyungface673 4 жыл бұрын
All day,! I would have licked a grannies fanny to see that
@neilbarnard735
@neilbarnard735 4 жыл бұрын
Carl Froch is underated, but I am gonna give Joe the Nod
@comets00
@comets00 2 жыл бұрын
love Kessler, such a credit to the sport of boxing
@jasonparry3297
@jasonparry3297 3 жыл бұрын
Calzagi best super middleweight out of UK in my generation. Carl didn't want the fight because he knew he would get beat
@Suckysuckydoller
@Suckysuckydoller 4 жыл бұрын
CALZAGHE britains no.1 super middlewieght would easily beatin gobshite Froch...Nigel Benn and Chris Eubank r second and third brithish but best ever in th world had to go to Roy Jones Junior thats all i will agree on
@mikeyL575
@mikeyL575 4 жыл бұрын
@@jack-dy7cx he wouldve schooled the cobra
@Southpoint2019
@Southpoint2019 4 жыл бұрын
I reckon Froch would have out gritted Eubank and benn. Froch vs Collins would have been great
@andrewparry8439
@andrewparry8439 4 жыл бұрын
What about Hearns, Leonard, Toney.
@jstephyjs4079
@jstephyjs4079 4 жыл бұрын
Froch looks so much better now than when he was boxing, all that money from the groves fight done him and his face proud.
@willharris5653
@willharris5653 4 жыл бұрын
Carl was a quality fighter skills chin punching power. His one simple floor was that he was so slow, Shockingly slow. Which is why he was a second half fighter, when the other fighter started to slow down he’d always get better. If he was quicker I think him and SOG would’ve been a close fight
@damienmooney3342
@damienmooney3342 Жыл бұрын
Ward was a different level, Froch would never beat Ward. But at least Frochie had the balls to take on dangerous fights...his 12 fight streak was a who's who of top fighters, win or lose
@HDIrwin
@HDIrwin 3 жыл бұрын
If you analyse the super-middleweights around at that time, Calzaghe fought everyone of any note apart from Frankie Liles. He didn't fight Sven Ottke, but we all know what would have happened. When he did fight a Kessler or a Lacy he was able to step it up and win convincingly. Hopkins reneged on a deal to fight him several years before they met. This has been well documented. All in all a great boxer, but it would have been fascinating seeing him fight Jones or Hopkins earlier.
@damienmooney3342
@damienmooney3342 Жыл бұрын
He chickened out of fighting Ottke
@HDIrwin
@HDIrwin Жыл бұрын
@@damienmooney3342 Yeah, ok, mate......
@martinezpurdy9723
@martinezpurdy9723 Жыл бұрын
He wouldn't of beaten Jones if it happened earlier
@HDIrwin
@HDIrwin Жыл бұрын
@@martinezpurdy9723 That's your opinion which you're entitled to, but, we'll never know.
@tomdewyn5689
@tomdewyn5689 Жыл бұрын
​@@damienmooney3342 In his his prime I believe Ottke would have beaten Froch,but Calzaghe had to much for Ottke
@ricofulgoni2282
@ricofulgoni2282 4 жыл бұрын
You have got to b kidding Hopkins was wrestling against calzahjge
@realvids2955
@realvids2955 4 жыл бұрын
Carl is so annoyed trying to still convince people he had a chance 😂😂😂🤣🤣
@kennysmith8761
@kennysmith8761 4 жыл бұрын
Carl won 2 ABA titles which is very hard to do,but joe calzaghe won 3 on the Trott at 3 different weight divisions beating future world champions in the process, calzaghe is the best fighter to come from UK 🇬🇧🥊🥊
@chrisklitou7573
@chrisklitou7573 4 жыл бұрын
Best Boxer*
@kennysmith8761
@kennysmith8761 4 жыл бұрын
Chris Klitou joe was a box/fighter who didn’t mind mixing it up,he wasn’t the best purest boxer,so im happy to stick with fighter 👍
@davidthornback4102
@davidthornback4102 4 жыл бұрын
😂When I thought calzaghe!! Hes even dreaming about joe now bless him🤔
@rfurms
@rfurms 4 жыл бұрын
So many haters for Froch. I honestly think he talks about Calzaghe to just wind everyone up for a laugh. Guy's a legend
@zitopr7204
@zitopr7204 4 жыл бұрын
I feel sad for Carl. I really do. He was a great fighter who gave his all on the ring and gave us plenty of classic fights and entertainment, and yet somehow, his mouth ruins his image, because there is nowhere in hell he could beat Calzaghe 😂😂
@MrGrungefuttock
@MrGrungefuttock 2 жыл бұрын
Completely disagree. Don't get me wrong , i would make Calzaghe a big favourite for that fight but to think that Froch had NO chance of winning against literally ANYBODY is absurd. He was outclassed by ward but he was never totally out of the fight. I'm not a fan as a human being , but Carl Froch, as a fighter was a true test for every fighter he faced, and every fighter he faced knew it.
@paulanthony5274
@paulanthony5274 Жыл бұрын
@@MrGrungefuttock He lived in the wrong age he's a 15 round fighter he'd be hell to fight against anyone in those last 3 rounds.
@MrGrungefuttock
@MrGrungefuttock Жыл бұрын
@@paulanthony5274 bang on !
@richardhewitt7097
@richardhewitt7097 4 жыл бұрын
I haven't even watched or read the comments, but I bet Froch is super salty about Joe.....
@Hasselbank4909
@Hasselbank4909 3 жыл бұрын
He's talking about Joe Calzaghe, one of the best boxer of all times, like he was nothing back then. I'm absolutely shattered with this man's poor spirit!
@MrSosa35
@MrSosa35 2 жыл бұрын
He spoke the truth Joe was a great fighter but most of his notable opponents were faded
@agentchaos3947
@agentchaos3947 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe in the UK. In the U.S., Joe Calzaghe isn't even acknowledged.
@gavinsmith6504
@gavinsmith6504 4 жыл бұрын
Wow how's those lemons taste froch 😂
@damienmarshall350
@damienmarshall350 3 жыл бұрын
Froch got schooled by Ward and he would have got schooled by Calzaghe. I would have preferred to see Ward vs Calzaghe. Froch was good but those two were elite.
@larryjablinski3570
@larryjablinski3570 3 жыл бұрын
everyone saying hes bitter to calzaghe yet everything cant argue with what he said
@trucker-ron
@trucker-ron 4 жыл бұрын
Carl you just made my day,RJR is the G.O.A.T for me thanks pal
@alvshill
@alvshill 4 жыл бұрын
Who’s seen the Amadeus movie? Calzaghe is Mozart. Froch is the good, but much lesser talented and very jealous Salieri.
@Rob060870
@Rob060870 4 жыл бұрын
Spot on in number 1 ,Roy Jones was untouchable in his prime 👍
@heyah1447
@heyah1447 2 жыл бұрын
I wish he went to England to fight Eubank, Collins, etc…
@andrewmcgill9544
@andrewmcgill9544 2 жыл бұрын
Brits were terrified of roy. The undisputed goat
@whowouldwininafight3152
@whowouldwininafight3152 4 жыл бұрын
He had an amazing chin, a hall of fame chin..........because of that we'll never know how big his heart was.
@tonyluxton3726
@tonyluxton3726 4 жыл бұрын
Same old Carl bitter and twisted about Calzage. Joe smashed everybody put in front of him. Carl’s right his chin saved him in many a fight
@pelztime
@pelztime 3 жыл бұрын
Dear oh dear Carl 🙈 how do you manage to keep a straight face 😂😂
@joe80ss
@joe80ss 4 жыл бұрын
Steve Collins, Eubank and Nigel Benn.
@dazeng4633
@dazeng4633 3 жыл бұрын
Collins only fought top fighters out of their prime
@MrEugene13
@MrEugene13 4 жыл бұрын
It wasn't boring watching Andre Ward, absolutely school you
@johncgw4011
@johncgw4011 2 жыл бұрын
Actually it was. Ward was a boring hugger. Lost to Kovalev and got a gift
@murdock6450
@murdock6450 4 жыл бұрын
Wonder where Froch would be on Calzaghe's list.. in fact would he make a top 10 on anyone else's list apart from his own?
@JahDon-m8i
@JahDon-m8i Ай бұрын
He buggin Super Joe is hands down the greatest Super Middleweight weight of all time!!!!
@graemelemaistreltd4020
@graemelemaistreltd4020 Ай бұрын
Joe would have outpointed Froch simply on work rate..but an easy night ...no.
@Romamb
@Romamb 4 жыл бұрын
Froch is an embarrassment to UK boxing.
@jg2213
@jg2213 4 жыл бұрын
I mean yes as a pundit but his body of work is impressive, just can't believe he's still so insecure after all he's achieved.
@derektrotter4287
@derektrotter4287 4 жыл бұрын
Vajid Ali Cheltenham
@stuartbennett334
@stuartbennett334 4 жыл бұрын
How hes had some shit hot fights, multiple champion what more you want
@Romamb
@Romamb 4 жыл бұрын
@@jg2213 True. As a boxer he was good.
@Romamb
@Romamb 4 жыл бұрын
@@stuartbennett334 as a pundit. His words are atrocious. Not his boxing.
@BL4CK0UT17
@BL4CK0UT17 3 жыл бұрын
Love how bitter he is about Calzaghe 😂
@leesc11
@leesc11 4 жыл бұрын
What's this based on? Longevity? Jones isn't top. Ability? Froch and Kessler are nowhere near Nunn or Toney. It doesn't make sense. The best long term career super middles were Calzaghe and Ward. The best who passed through the division were RJJ, Toney, Eubank Sr and Nunn. The best of the rest were Benn and McClellan - Carl Froch wasn't on that level. Plus there's Steve Collins. How can the ordinary Mikkel Kessler rank above The Celtic Warrior and those epic wins over a 41-0-2/43-1-2 Chris Sr etc. You have to put Calzaghe numero uno. RJJ was at the weight for 12-18 months, Calzaghe for 14-15 years!
@evanwilliams3211
@evanwilliams3211 4 жыл бұрын
Calzaghe would've wiped the floor with froch. What an absolute melt. Calzaghe is the best super middleweight
@86verbal
@86verbal Жыл бұрын
Froch says Calzaghe beat an injured Kessler without even mentioning Joe had severly broken his hands only a few months before.
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