Fun fact the slab mags sides are the same thickness (1mm) as the standard stamped AK receiver
@Fireclaws107 жыл бұрын
For those extra special field repairs
@xxSgtXioXxx2917 жыл бұрын
wild50gunner That's weirdly satisfying
@armchairgeneralissimo7 жыл бұрын
@Rochyan Not just field repairs when you run out of ammo you can use those magazines as a makeshift baton.
@nikola12nis5 жыл бұрын
So basically,the steel slab one stops a 9mm.Nice...lol
@notasoviet10165 жыл бұрын
Grassmasks greatest champion ouch..
@opraners7 жыл бұрын
I recall watching a video where a US soldier stated one of his favorite things about AK's was the fact he could take a mag off the gun a beat some one to death with it.
@kalashloy41797 жыл бұрын
The image of Polenar Tactical's Manca beating the mannequin with one instantly pops out in my brain, lol
@vegaspapp3394 жыл бұрын
Tape a grenade to it, boom, stielhandgrenada
@totalannihilation90654 жыл бұрын
They are heavy as hell with rounds on them so I believe it.
@Infernal9697 жыл бұрын
Knowing Russians it was thick steel at first so the spare ones could be later converted into tanks.
@rossomachin7 жыл бұрын
Infernal969 Funny (I'm Russian)
@ErnestoLopez-qj7iu7 жыл бұрын
magazines so strong they were added to the armor on tanks
@robbiedickson33867 жыл бұрын
youre not joking, russian cigarettes were made in 7.62 mil so the machinery could be converted over to making ammunition if need be, heck even their car factorys were designed to be easily convertible to making APCs
@Timsturbs6 жыл бұрын
same legend was about 7.62 macaroni pasta
@kozyrev826 жыл бұрын
Cigarettes, yeah. The same rumor goes about the Soviet pasta. That's bullshit.
@Prowbar7 жыл бұрын
I'd be very interested in seeing another video on drum magazines.
@JonatasAdoM7 жыл бұрын
Indeed
@plague465 жыл бұрын
You mean jamazines.
@PedroThePanda645 жыл бұрын
@@plague46 IZ WONDERFUL COMMUNIST INVENTION, DO NOT QUESTION COMRADE.
@Oberkommando3 жыл бұрын
@@plague46 well since the russian "zaslon" special forces use 7.62x39 drum mags to this day - they seem to be very effective. I'd guess the reliability issues stem from the fact that most american import drums are old, have been used for ages thus having weak springs. That's the same reason people call Luger P08 mags trash. They are not trash - the springs are just old.
@LUR1FAX3 жыл бұрын
@@Oberkommando Hmm. Interesting. Oddly similar to why American soldiers have issues with their M16/M4 rifles. Fragile mags plus old springs and worn out parts. If the magazine isn't 100%, you're always gonna have problems.
@chapiit087 жыл бұрын
I remember as a child back in the early seventies looking at a color cover photograph on an Italian magazine of an African (probably Ethiopian or Sudanese) woman holding an AK rifle equiped with a bakelite magazine as a flie covered child was next to her grabbing her robe. Back then I was totally in the dark in regards to guns and I wondered for years what that orange mag was made of or why it was painted orange...
@ErnestHemingwayJr7 жыл бұрын
I've had a similar experience, and eventually came to the conclusion that these were regular magazines wrapped in packing tape... Funny to think about it now
@zoltanbodnar97217 жыл бұрын
i always tought they were made of copper
@marpfel7 жыл бұрын
Painted orange because of Health and Safety Regulations. xD
@Blido7 жыл бұрын
When I was a noob I was convinced that they paint magazines orange to make them easier to find when dropped on the ground :P
@zoltanbodnar97217 жыл бұрын
i know but i just couldn't imagine a magazine not made out of some kind of metal. :D
@scottverge9387 жыл бұрын
I'd imagine the polymer mags would be nicer to handle in harsh winter conditions as well.
@sillygoose210_67 жыл бұрын
Scott Verge they would become a little brittle in extreme cold but they would not freeze to your hands lol
@LazyLifeIFreak7 жыл бұрын
Having spent 7 years in my life as a gardener, you come to realize how absolutely horrible a all-steel tool is to use without some kind of wood or plastic/rubber covering.
@scottverge9387 жыл бұрын
Silly you got my comment completely backwards. I was pointing out that they would be nicer to your hands than metal in cool weather. I've found the same thing as a photographer. My aluminum tripod is murder in cold weather. Which is why I added foam sleeves to the legs.
@dranomilkshake7 жыл бұрын
LazyLife IFreak see any combat?
@LazyLifeIFreak7 жыл бұрын
dranomilkshake Nope thou I have worked under some of the same conditions at least weather-wise. Cold, wet hands on all-metal rake is god awful.
@OrcActual7 жыл бұрын
Wake up to take a piss and now I'm forced to watch this. God damnit Ian
@Nukle0n7 жыл бұрын
Just don't check your phone when you take a piss at night, go right to the potty and then go right back to bed.
@wcam78227 жыл бұрын
TMI!
@willowrabbit7 жыл бұрын
why not do both at once?
@cardboard_shaft7 жыл бұрын
+John Floyd congrats
@OrcActual7 жыл бұрын
John Floyd I hope I'm as high speed as you one day
@WillMoon7 жыл бұрын
Your generic eastern euro mag looks Romanian. It has the back rib so it's not Chinese, two tack welds at the front locking lugs is usually the giveaway. East German mags are typically finer quality than that and have a fairly rich bluing. Yugo mags are easy to identify by looking at the follower, which will have a little lobe extension to lock the bolt to the rear after firing. Romanian mags also have a number of spot welds on the back rib that are similar to what you've got. The dead giveaway is usually arsenals would stamp the ribs on the back of the mags for other manufacturers.
@WillMoon7 жыл бұрын
In publication no, but I know AK mags, I've collected them for years and I know what I buy when I buy it.
@ForgottenWeapons7 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty good with Chinese, and I know the Yugo mags, but the others are too similar for me (for now).
@Pdro-gw7lu7 жыл бұрын
Will Moon what do you think of the green Bakelite mags that we're going round recently? Scam or legit?
@WillMoon7 жыл бұрын
Probably someone dyed them, I've heard and read about some experimental colored bakelite mags from Russia but I don't think they were ever manufactured in any large numbers, if you're seeing them in the USA they're probably fake.
@nandong39547 жыл бұрын
Will Moon I have couple Chinese mags with rib back and matte finish. Can tell Chinese from the triangle 66 mark. Very interesting pieces.
@killzoneisa7 жыл бұрын
All that line up need is the green bakelite magazine.
@davidokeif83045 жыл бұрын
Do you have a Chinese all-stamped or Bosnian two-rib/Fleur-de-lis?
@mrguiltyfool4 жыл бұрын
@@davidokeif8304 i think you can easily found chinese ones in Canada
@davidokeif83044 жыл бұрын
@@mrguiltyfool Chinese ones are not hard to find (usually are flat-backs), but there is a specific type that is wholly constructed of stamped parts, nothing is milled, which are really interesting. I have one of these that came from Yugoslavia.
@RustedCroaker4 жыл бұрын
Green magz are only for FSB border guard vets. PS. There were never any magazine made of a bakelite in the USSR/Russia.
@Sshooter4447 жыл бұрын
I took a drink every time you said "robust"...now Im hammered!
@johnsegertsons21433 жыл бұрын
It must've been a historical 1st ,when the Soviet military said " Yup those slab sided Magazines are too robust and durable" !
@HanSolo-iy3eq5 жыл бұрын
When gun Jesus gets kicked out of the auction house so he has to go to a gun store and review gun magazines.
@krugerblue7 жыл бұрын
The stamped magazines are the ones I also used when I served. They were a massive pain in the ass, because they were all quite beat-up and old, and most of them were bent, hence the follower would remain stuck in inward indentations. We had like a template that you would put the magazine on (after taking off it;s butt plate) butt-first, and then with a rubber hammer we would constantly try to fix them, but once you dropped one down, most probably it needed hammering again. All in all - pretty mad mags....bad memories.
@Ilustre875 жыл бұрын
Funny, I remember arguing about who gets to carry the Bakelite mags. When you have to carry 4 of them for long periods of time the difference is huge.
@DeanmC2619937 жыл бұрын
waffles, slabs of meat and baked goods.....DAMMIT IAN now I'm hungry!
@hoangvan09257 жыл бұрын
DeanmC261993 Ribbs should also be included in the title of this video.
@andrewamann88557 жыл бұрын
DeanmC261993 and they're all bananas...
@belokonev-dan7 жыл бұрын
I'm from Russia, Izhevsk, and it's cool and weird in some way to see magazines from Izhevsk in USA.
@tbone5040 Жыл бұрын
I like seeing comments like this.They make the internet cooler. Zdravstvuyte from Vermont,USA.
@filipmarkovski96957 жыл бұрын
The second magazine is for a Yugoslav zastava M-70.
@user_name_redacted4 жыл бұрын
Let's all agree it's for a Bulgarian Zastava ;)
@user_name_redacted4 жыл бұрын
@Mario Jurjević I'm Australian, so unless I e s c a p e, I'll probably never even fire one, though statistically and aesthetically the m70 seems like a better made weapon
@ProphTruth1003 жыл бұрын
@@user_name_redacted escape to Texas
@panzerzh98646 жыл бұрын
Just in addition... Smaller size of 5.45 cartridge is also convenient for "first-out" ammo storage - boxes actually contain 15-rnd clips that superseded 10-rnd clips for 7.62 cartridges (the very same ones that go into SKS carbine). That's how RPK74 ended up with a 45-round magazine - not 40 nor 50... If you'd take a close look at Soviet-made Tactical Chest Rig Magazine Carrier Vest, besides four bigger mag pouches there are two smaller pockets. These are meant for ten clips, holding the other half of rifleman's ammo. The smallest pouch is for clip-to-magazine adaptor, which comes standard with a mag set.
@ryanstanley56347 жыл бұрын
Incredible information on the Bakelite! Finally, I understand why it not only costs more but why it even exists.
@stewknoles47907 жыл бұрын
Thanks Ian. I did not know the many variations. Now I can buy a plastic one and not worry.
@tangier234 жыл бұрын
watch out for some of the black plastic mags - especially pro mags
@babakzekibi3157 жыл бұрын
1500 likes and 0 dislikes. A very informing video as always. Thank Ian
@freshmemeington41286 жыл бұрын
Now it's 27 dislikes
@TodayLifeIsGoood5 жыл бұрын
@@freshmemeington4128 now it's 34 to over 8k likes^^
@legil29542 жыл бұрын
Now its no dislikes again
@nunyabusiness30822 жыл бұрын
@@legil2954 lololol
@rixille6 жыл бұрын
I love how they colored the mags to be like the wood stock on the guns. Also, only Ian will go into depth over things like gun magazines, you are truly a well-informed and asset to gun history and studies.
@tbone5040 Жыл бұрын
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@hannahranga7 жыл бұрын
Suspect an added bonus to the plastic mags is if it did get enough pressure to be damaged it'd just snap and be obviously broken instead of bending and then maybe feeding.
@Whitefang81287 жыл бұрын
8:34 is that a shoe?
@ForgottenWeapons7 жыл бұрын
That's the armrest of my chair.
@rachaelstevens1966 жыл бұрын
hahaha
@antdjones054 жыл бұрын
Whitefang8128 😂
@Vulcanized4 жыл бұрын
Electric Avenue shoe.
@Matvei224206 жыл бұрын
Handling mags in cold weather is also a consideration. Freeze your fingertips on metal ones
@theonethatfliesfiller40984 жыл бұрын
If the weather is that cold then you'd wear gloves
@sakadabara4 жыл бұрын
@@theonethatfliesfiller4098 , or you could pee on your hands and warm them up, or chuck them into freshly sliced dog - simples !
@alexgriffin27325 жыл бұрын
If its covered in cosmoline you know its good
@davidreinhart3735 жыл бұрын
I wonder if the slab side magazines could actoally save your life id you had them in a two magazine pouch on your body. Thats 4mm of steel + the ammunition in them.
@acomingextinction Жыл бұрын
that's a solid chunk of metal. i bet it'd stop something like a .45.
@michaelwarenycia75887 ай бұрын
A bit late, but allegedly the North Vietnamese were aware of this and their chest rigs were considered to give some crude protection that way.
@davidreinhart3737 ай бұрын
@@michaelwarenycia7588 Interesting
@michaelwarenycia75887 ай бұрын
@@davidreinhart373 random info but since you replied and you seem to have interest, I'll mention...I live in Ukraine (a small city southwest of Kyiv, though my family is from Ternopil). A lot of AKMs in use here. New production but old 7.62 style. And you see all the mag types, except the slab ones, far as I can remember. So at least two gun shop owners tell me, what everyone wants is a Soviet (Radyanski, in ukrainian) AK. Should have asked why but yeah. I know inrangeTV did their mud test and all, but in the trenches/crappy conditions , apparently some of the same reliability problems with ARs that American veterans mentioned since Vietnam (then keep getting told they are wrong by KZbin) surface again. Also if you can get AP ammo for your AK (I'm assuming you're American and maybe that's why you're interested...you can buy them:) , it really works. I've seen results...not that tungsten cored 556 probably couldn't do the same thing, just we aren't given any whereas we do get tungsten 5.45. and when I say works, I mean on everything from crude steel plates to (based on visual inspection) ceramic.
@superbun2774 жыл бұрын
Generic Eastern European AK Magazine(TM): _Ribbed for her pleasure_
@Fixxate4 жыл бұрын
Stop. Cease. Halt.
@vasyavasili47137 жыл бұрын
Как и всегда, великолепный эпизод! Спасибо!
@Hubert_Cumberdale_5 жыл бұрын
Indeed
@Pommezul4 жыл бұрын
For sure sir
@brownmsoe Жыл бұрын
Funny thing, as a kid watching VHS movies in the 90s like Goldeneye, I thought they were made of wood (or at least had a wood covering).
@PotatoGunsRule7 жыл бұрын
I bought a Romak 5.45x39 AK variant back in 1998 and ordered 8 of the 30 round bakelite mags for it from Classic Arms. I am so glad I did! That weapon is a bullet hose and the mags made it very fun. I have since found a couple of the 45 round bakelite mags for it (featured in this video) and I may order a couple more. The "waffle" mags are only found on gunbroker now and order a premium. More are expected to come into the country. Distributors do have the "slab sided" mags, I may order some here in a moment. Ian, thanks again for a great video.
@RyanInSD6 жыл бұрын
They need to have a TV series "to catch a thumbs-downer" I want to know what these people look like. Great video as always Ian, you the man :)
@cannedgoose32595 жыл бұрын
I like the Bakes because they're really smooth and flat. There is a video somewhere of some troop using a Bake to open a bottle, and then dine off of the surface of the mag.
@JenniferinIllinois7 жыл бұрын
I love the look of the bakelite magazines. I need to hunt some down. -Jen
@icu_corey_rn_9034 жыл бұрын
I ordered a flat bottom NOS Tula Bakelite and I can’t wait for it to come in.
@cherniqhs7 жыл бұрын
IN Bulgaria we have all of the types. I have use only the steal and both Bakelite as well as 40 rounds mag for RPK. The first type and the aluminum I only see on ceremonial rifles.
@gregoryfilin80405 жыл бұрын
First types are rare. Aluminum are too fragile.
@Nick_Dobru4 жыл бұрын
cherniqhs болгарин,ты по-русски понимаешь ?
@cherniqhs4 жыл бұрын
@@Nick_Dobru I understand a lot , can read a bit but unfortunately can't speak it
@Nick_Dobru4 жыл бұрын
cherniqhs that’s cool, and I’m also can read in Bulgarian
@Nick_Dobru4 жыл бұрын
cherniqhs do you have an ak rifle ?
@nefftrooper4 жыл бұрын
I like that in your videos when you don't know some obscure fact you identify it and make it know. Professional grade videos that feel like a conversation I'd want to have.
@rapskallion3 жыл бұрын
Thanls Ian. Your knowledge and articulation are spot on, as always.
@tamahawkins28157 жыл бұрын
Hello Gun Jesus My Dad is Gun Maori from New Zealand. He first started watching your videos to see if he could catch you out with misinformation. As yet he has not been able to so doesn't bother anymore, hence last night's comment. He add's 'If I didn't look like a Mexican I'd immigrate to gun heaven.' (Arizona) Who Dares Wins.
@BrokenRRT7 жыл бұрын
Tama Hawkins - we here in Arizona accept and love all legality immigrated or visiting Mexicans. We even have a bit of Australians and kiwis living here. I use to work with a few at the county hospital.
@tamahawkins28157 жыл бұрын
BrokenRRT thanks for clearing that up, so can we imigrate there. gun laws in NZ suck
@karlrobbers7 жыл бұрын
Try living under Australia's gun laws then tell me how bad new Zealand's are.
@tamahawkins28157 жыл бұрын
karlrobbers That is true, you guys have it pretty bad compared to us
@nevileasterling6487 жыл бұрын
New Zealand has fairly good gun laws. You can even own full autos. Don't know about new ones though, you can only own the ones made before 1986 in the US though.
@kennyvancleave24227 жыл бұрын
Absolutely fascinating.
@drake01457 жыл бұрын
More magazine history please Ian.
@myramadd66517 жыл бұрын
I wondered about the orange mags Now I know
@thetaconator12347 жыл бұрын
I just watched this now i want ak mags i don't even own an ak Dammit Ian
@caseyjoanz4 жыл бұрын
TheTaconator123 - Wanting an AK is a rational thought. Wanting anything made out of Bakelite? No. Google it. Talk to owners who value function over nostalgia. Bakelite meant it was time to develop polymers and stop trying to perfect plastic. Diallyl Phthalate (DAP) replaced Bakelite on the newly introduced home telephones.
@michaelpetrovich53534 жыл бұрын
Do you own a AK now?
@RustedCroaker4 жыл бұрын
@@caseyjoanz Not a single mag for an AK where made out of bakelite in the USSR/Russia. Steel, aluminum, non dyed or dyed fibre-reinforced polymer (FRP) only.
@mrporbig3 жыл бұрын
i'm 14 and i've only held a gun once
@Oktokolo10 ай бұрын
Thank you. This is all the information about AK mags i needed to know. I will likely never own or use an AK or any other gun. But it was an nteresting and informative watch.
@evilcaliberbutt32697 жыл бұрын
i loved this video and would like to see a similar video with AR mags if that's at all possible. Thanks Ian.
@m4rkm4n7 жыл бұрын
So is there a reason why these bakelite magazines look like wood?
@Todd_Coward7 жыл бұрын
_A E S T H E T I C_
@perfectionist20327 жыл бұрын
Deliberate or not, it is a result of poorly mixed polymer ingredients. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Bakelite_color_chart_1924_Gifts_to_Treasure_Embed_Art_Company_Jewel_only.tif en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bakelite#Phenolic_sheeten.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bakelite en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phenol_formaldehyde_resin
@perfectionist20327 жыл бұрын
iatsd, pray tell the grades of plastic used.
@m4rkm4n7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for clarifying! I actually used to think that the magazines were encased in thin sheets of wood because it fits the AK color pattern. It's just that they even have the typical wood patterns.
@Simon_Nonymous7 жыл бұрын
I wondered too if it was accident or chance. But I like the 7's veneer explanation best iatsd! Thanks for the info all of you. NB - Bakelite does not have an R in it ;-)
@crunchysuperman7 жыл бұрын
Thank you. So many guys say "bakelite" and think they're actually made of that.
@D8W2P47 жыл бұрын
Well it does look exactly like Bakelite and from what people who've handled em have said it even feels like Bakelite (the combination of texture, heat transfer, and way it gives is very much like Bakelite) so the error isn't unjustified.
@RustedCroaker5 жыл бұрын
@@D8W2P4 Real old Bakelite has much darker color and has no fiberglass in it.
@caseyjoanz4 жыл бұрын
Fiberglass! Now we’re talking the 60s and real polymers: vinyl, nylon, dacron, acetates. A whole new world and they haven’t even substituted any hydrogens with chlorides and fluorides, yet!
@user-wn7qf4pm3z4 жыл бұрын
Индекс ГРАУ магазинов Автомата Калашникова: 6Л10 - магазин для автоматов 6П1, 6П4 (соответственно АКМ, АКМС) 6Л18 - магазин для пулеметов 6П18, 6П19, 6П39 (45 патронов, изготовлен из материала АГ-4) (соответственно РПК74, РПКС74, РПК74М) 6Л20 - магазин для автоматов 6П20, 6П21, 6П26, 6П33 (30 патронов, изготовлен из материала АГ-4) (соответственно АК74, АКС74, АКС74У, АН-94) 6Л23 - магазин для автоматов 6П20, 6П21, 6П26, 6П33 (30 патронов, изготовлен из материала ПС6) (соответственно АК74, АКС74, АКС74У, АН-94) 6Л26 - магазин для пулеметов 6П18, 6П19, 6П39 (45 патронов, изготовлен из материала ПС6) (соответственно РПК74, РПКС74, РПК74М) 6Л29 - магазин для автоматов 6П43, 6П44 (30 патронов) (соответственно АК101, АК102) 6Л31 - магазин для автоматов 6П20, 6П21, 6П26 (60 патронов) (соответственно АК74, АКС74, АКС74У) 6Л33 - магазин для пулемета 6П8М (соответственно РПКМ (РПК-203)) ГОСТ АГ-4 - материал прессовочный на основе модифицированной фенолоформальдегидной смолы (бакелит/карболит) в качестве связующего и стеклянных нитей в качестве наполнителя. ГОСТ ПС6 - материал прессовочный на основе полиамидных пластических масс в качестве связующего и стеклянных нитей в качестве наполнителя. lik-o-dil-es.blogspot.com/2018/10/vidy-magazinov-dlya-avtomata-kalashnikova.html www.ag-4v.ru/ag-4v/character/
@gregoryfilin80405 жыл бұрын
So if we're talking the AKM, that means Soviets adopted these around 1965-1970, which would mean they adopted polymer mags before pretty much anyone else. That's pretty far forward thinking on their part. And it does make sense, since all Russian made mags and drums are polymer, and are considered the best to own in the Eastern Bloc.
@viggo11494 жыл бұрын
Seeing a lot of comments about how polymer/bakelite might feel better in the winter, and counter-arguments saying that soldiers wear gloves... Gloves are a disposable item - you wear them every day, the weather doesn't matter. And so the get worn, and they rip open. Touching cold steel through a worn glove is not nice. Neither is handling that steel when you come indoors, and take off your gloves. The metal stays cold for some time. You could replace your gloves, and you could wear thicker ones for the winter, and you could be more careful, but you won't be, not all the time. There are other reasons for adopting a plastic mag, as Ian said, but not having steel on your skin in the winter is a nice plus. Now it would be nice if you could wear thick leather gloves all the time, but that's not realistic since you need to operate the gun. All this comes from experience - a Finnish Jaeger here.
@thegoldencaulk27427 жыл бұрын
The Russians no doubt learned a thing or two when fielding the SVT with it's.... problematic magazines. I have a feeling that played into the robustness of the first AK mag.
@Prowbar7 жыл бұрын
TheGoldenCaulk probably, and the STG-44 mags gave a lot of inspiration aswell.
@patrickmccann28787 жыл бұрын
What's wrong with SVT magazines?
@thegoldencaulk27427 жыл бұрын
Patrick McCann They're not all that strong or reliable. Granted, the reproductions are even worse.
@patrickmccann28787 жыл бұрын
What really goes wrong on them? This is the first I've ever heard someone complain about them.
@thegoldencaulk27427 жыл бұрын
Patrick McCann I believe the complaints come from wartime reports, not civilian complaints (since no civie would ever subject their gun to the same torture). Anyway, it was about bad feedlips and they were too easy to dent/damage, resulting in feed issues. That's probably why nobody today has issue with them, because all of the surviving original examples are good and treated well
@FPSMurdock4 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video. Thanks for the education 👍
@juliuspeperwood11284 жыл бұрын
AK mags are what sparked my interest with firearm history and started my collection.
@830UFO3 жыл бұрын
So you just collect and don't fire with them?
@parchment4205 жыл бұрын
i have 3 of the 40 round bakelite mags in my collection. :) had four but i gave one to a friend a few years back
@andorpetrei6634 жыл бұрын
My father who had mandatory military training in he hungarian army said, that the bakelite magazines were 'throwable' but they had to keep the steel magazines to use them.
@mikellwehrer7 жыл бұрын
I really love this sort of informative video, please keep it up!
@tarkin1980apa4 жыл бұрын
LGR would go nuts about the wood grain like pattern on that AK-74 mag.
@chillios22223 жыл бұрын
pay attention to the lugs, there are some out there especially the all polymer Bulgarian 40 rounders where the front lug of the magazine goes all the way across and needs to have the edges trimmed to look like these
@michaelangelo90794 жыл бұрын
In Syria, we still and have always been using slab sides. I have never seen polymer mags except in soviet movies about Afghan campaigns. It’s funny to think about it just now. We are fighting amongst ourselves with weapons made in the 1960s and 50s.
@elbenstrs92215 жыл бұрын
0:47 for -6.5 seconds I thought you said slav side magazines
@RigamortisTortoise7 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! Can you please do a similar video about all the different G3 magazines?
@jamescoppola55457 жыл бұрын
Plum mags have the added capability to make one cream their pants.
@Quert_Zuiopue3 жыл бұрын
East germany did also use bakelite mags for 5.45x39 aks. But we used different ak types at the same time. Besides the AK47, we also had the KM-72, the east german successor to the AKM in service. It was chambered in 7,62x39. So, on pictures from the early 80s you see both mag types, because different calibers were in use. But later, in the late 80s, only the border guards used the KMS-72. All other Units were equipped with AK-74N, AkS-74 and AKS-74NK (The east german PDW).
@fluuglue7 жыл бұрын
Another advantage that the plastic bodied magazine has over a metal one is when you dink your magazines against something hard. If you have a metal magazine, you can slightly dent it so that it doesn't really like to feed that well but still look kind of working, causing unforeseen jams during battle. In the other hand the plastic magazine either basically always works in that regard or it is completely obliterated.
@funshootin17 жыл бұрын
love those steel 30 rnd tantal mags for the 5.45 . kinda have good service from promags 40 rd plastic waffles for the 545 also.. they have two magazine follower lips molded into them where you can cut down a 40 to a 30 and even a 20 ish rnd mag just by cutting just below the edge.. 40 rnd mags are a Lil tall for the range and the bench or prone. . dirt cheap and reliable. the bakelite 45s are just too nice to beat on so I try to limit the use.
@tehBoxxyMan7 ай бұрын
Love me some bakelite mags on a Krink!
@gergemall2 жыл бұрын
Love your channel
@aghouser41593 жыл бұрын
"You see comrade, you must make sure that your enemies are well fed with breakfast if you are to win a war".
@warmachine_13967 жыл бұрын
Great video Ian. Wunderbar!
@nicholasmaugeri7594 жыл бұрын
Very informative! Thanks for posting!
@FirelordRob767 жыл бұрын
subscribed for more awesome guns as well as your really professional and informed narration.
@redcat94362 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see more magazine videos like this one.
@Trudginator7 жыл бұрын
pretty advanced magazines
@gregoryfilin80405 жыл бұрын
You're right. These polymer mags would've been in trials in 1967 and adopted in 1969, for the AKM, which would place them REALLY far ahead of the curve.
@Ashfielder7 жыл бұрын
Over a thousand likes without any dislikes? AK magazines must be popular!
@clamum7 жыл бұрын
Oh, we finally got the 1 mongoloid that has to thumbs down any video!
@OriginalBongoliath7 жыл бұрын
Toby Wood I mean AK mags are pretty sweet.
@TheRoopex17 жыл бұрын
cool, finns also used those steel mags for rk-62 quite some time. Nowdays we use plastic ones insted.
@tacticaltrex64907 жыл бұрын
awesome Ian... thanks
@fuzzyhatproductions17 жыл бұрын
do you have any information available on the green 5.45 mags?
from zenitco: "The (former KGB) border guards of the then Soviet Union, now Russian Federation, are rewarded special green-furniture AKM's and AK-74's for exceptional service". basically borderguard ak furniture.
@davidokeif83045 жыл бұрын
@@DennyCigano Soviet mags are better. A synthetic material AK mag that doesn't have steel locking lugs and reinforced feed lips means it's sub-par. The Bulgarian circle 10 mags are pretty much the gold standard for what modern AK mags should look like. I believe they even have steel re-enforcing strips that run down the front (possibly back) of the mags as well. At a bare minimum, the locking lugs and feed lips need steel in them, otherwise, one good wack on something and the plastic is going to break. Polymer rock and lock AK mags are not as easy to make as AR mags.
@gregoryfilin80405 жыл бұрын
Those are current modern Russian army mags permitted for purchase.
@cabbot4207 жыл бұрын
I believe Bakelite mags are actually Bakelite (or similar thermosetting plastic) with glass fiber reinforcing. They pass most Bakelite tests such as simichrome and if you heat them a little by rubbing or warm water you smell a little formaldehyde.
@boodmyster7 жыл бұрын
I always wanted to know what the differences between AK mags were about, thanks for making a vid about it
@plasot4 жыл бұрын
Yup, I was using steel mag for kbk wz 88 Tantal
@MichaelJones-ny3ot7 жыл бұрын
awesome video thanks Ian
@davidokeif83045 жыл бұрын
I find the Chinese all stamped AK mag to be one of the most interesting. Got one about eleven years ago when one place online was selling bulk packs.
@maddmac94734 жыл бұрын
thanks for actually having a video for this nerd info I was looking for while laying in bed at midnight
@kornelcajka53206 жыл бұрын
how the fuck can a channel like this get disliked?
@stormthrush377 жыл бұрын
Great video! From having owned a number of 7.62 AKs, there are a surprising number of 7.62 AK magazine variants out there. There's another kind not touched on here: Chinese. They're just like the Eastern European, but with no rib on the spine (flat back), so a little easier on the thumb. They also seem to have slightly better fit and finish.
@thebrandon92872 жыл бұрын
Great explanation, thank you 👏
@ajgrant99547 жыл бұрын
Ian, are you going to talk about the unicorn 5.45 quad stack "coffin" mags? Surefire did a pretty good job copying them.
@Herbymac08115 жыл бұрын
Izmash “Izzy” 74 mags come with steel feed lips and steel locking lugs .... right???
@gregoryfilin80405 жыл бұрын
Yes. The feed lips have polymer around them. Sometimes the lugs do, sometimes they don't.
@bhka6423 Жыл бұрын
When I was a kid I thought that these Bakelite magazines were made of wood.
@marpat_prepper89543 жыл бұрын
Bakalites are hitting the market now still but at 150 a mag
@billburns92607 жыл бұрын
Great Video Ian!.. I have One of Those Exact Same Heavy Duty Ribbed Mags! the 0 stamp identified it! mine is Polish & Came a with my C11 Polish Parts kit Akms! Great Gun! Great Mag!.. Thanks For The info! Have a Great Day & God Bless You Brother!.
@tannerb57166 жыл бұрын
nice , keep up the great work .
@scoink37 жыл бұрын
Could you do a video on the AN-94? Maybe its not forgotten but its a very interesting gun, and maybe i would actually understand how it works if you explained it haha
@jackmcslay7 жыл бұрын
8:57 optical illusion - it looks like the first one is larger yet all but the last one are the same size
@TwinklesTheChinchilla7 жыл бұрын
There's just something charming about the colored bakelite mags. A little tacky, a little retro, but charming. Unfortunately, my 5.56 Arsenal Inc. doesn't have the option of using them.
@doctorzoidberg17154 жыл бұрын
I wanna see more magazine videos
@JoeyP3227 жыл бұрын
Another informative video... thanks
@bitfreakazoid7 жыл бұрын
Oh man. Going into AK mag variants is a whole can of worms. So many cool different ones out there to collect. I've mostly stuck with AK74 mags and even then there are so many different variants. My prized mag would be my black polymer 50 round quadstack mag for the 74.
@Rynohoopty6 жыл бұрын
I mean, it kinda makes sense why the Russians went with the polymer despite cost. The constant cold of the country plus the lightweight was probably really popular with the troops. Just seems logical to me I dont actually know anything so dont yell at me.
@crackshot47975 жыл бұрын
I bought a slab side mag awhile back. Really wish I would've gotten two
@SW-ii5gg5 жыл бұрын
I would like to have at least one. I really wish I would've gotten a warehouse full.
@snoopypingas54266 жыл бұрын
In the finnish military we were frying sausages on top of the RK mag springs 😂 those are also plastic mags but they have an enforcing pattern like those metal ones.