Slipknot Has a HUGE Problem

[@panfuza7898]

There's always one band in each era and genre that eventually just becomes a brand

[@NoNoob10-pq8jz]

Nirvana

[@L0rd0fTh3N3rdz]

​@@NoNoob10-pq8jznah, that period produced Greenday

[@strawberyfieldsforever]

@@L0rd0fTh3N3rdz im a massive nirvana fan and ever since kurts death it kind of has become a brand unfortunately

[@NoName-oy2tk]

Metallica

[@jenniferphillippi1715]

Misfits is easily the best example

[@lt.reubenrozeyt5716]

Wait...your telling me Slipknot isn't a Funko Pop line up?

[@therealeikichionizuka]

i thought they were a t shirt brand for goth chicks…?

[@nikkimikk3353]

@@therealeikichionizuka I thought it was a secret term for people who slit their wrists

[@Lil_truck_fawk]

Sadly I tapped out last year

[@Soundwave32791]

Bruh what does that even mean?

[@actomise5305]

i always get a little bit more greasy every time coolea uploads

[@peperiddle5831]

Fr. I feel my self worth leave my body every time

[@luigi9458]

that would make sense considering that time passes in between each video

[@Sulomor_BM]

@@luigi9458it can happen, just don't shower (common among coolea viewers)

[@JCDUBS]

i always come back for the slop ❤❤

[@KomboAndy]

I get more bri'ish

[@feduwtc]

i love slipknot but yeah they're been more and more focused on money, even if i do think they care about the fans and music it's clear there's a greater importance, the only thing i disagree is Craig's departure, he got out of the band DURING a tour and not after like Joey, Chris and Jay, so i do think he actually got out on his own due to mental health reasons

[@coolea]

I agree, that's why I barely touched on it, just mentioned his name once or twice. The situation still annoyed fans regardless of the reason.

[@TheOneAndOnlyCumGuzzler]

@@coolea As a fan, i am deeply disturbed about craig's departure, but it seems like an honest choice made by Craig himself, rather than a kicking out by other band members, as seen with Joey and Jay

[@Nightwing300]

⁠@@TheOneAndOnlyCumGuzzlerprobably didn’t want to go independent and his a old man. It would be extremely difficult to live that lifestyle

[@noahleach7690]

its been twenty years since they released an album that wasnt mid and theyre selling funko pops, shit is insane

[@Skimmerlit]

The brutal scary people are scared of controversy lol

[@taintedclarity6942]

I dont think its that people are scared of controversy, its just slipknot sucks now lmao

[@Xeroforte]

​@@taintedclarity6942 they always have, kid. Once you're an adult with taste, you'll realize this

[@wAVEHVH]

Nobody that listens to slipknot is brutal or scary

[@BababooeyGooey]

@@wAVEHVH *No one who listens to metal is brutal or scary

[@blank54620]

​​@@Xeroforteyou sound like a limp bizkit fan

[@sahinlandman4667]

Kind reminder that Joey and Paul basically wrote the first two albums

[@TheKlamminator]

The two best and only ones I really like

[@sahinlandman4667]

@@TheKlamminator me too

[@H3ll0K1ttyho3]

@@TheKlamminator real

[@rabbitman4425]

I remember a group of furries, 7 of them in total who I went to highschool with. They would cuddle, kiss each other in the corner corridor of the lunchroom everyday and would bark/yiff at anyone who stared at them when walking by. My JR year at the talent show all 7 of them performed wait and bleed in their furry costumes and the odd person out of the uneven 7 who didn’t have a girlfriend/boyfriend to cuddle and kiss played the trash can. I wonder how they are doing today.

[@MetalPersonJ]

probably trooned out and molesting in bathrooms

[@iamilibitirenbetter3266]

Wut

[@C-Mor6972]

Sir this is a Wendy’s..

[@XxKrazyxX]

Honestly I'd like to see that performance

[@WowzaWow-z8o]

that’s so preppy💗💗💗💗

[@laurisaarinen1126]

The true Slipknot will remain 1999-2008 for me. With the same members, amazing music that evolved album to album. After that, things started slowly falling apart. Gray Chapter still had few great songs, but it honestly felt like a different band. No wonder as 2 of their 3 main songwriters were gone. It's just been downhill with the music, the image, even down to the masks looking dumber and dumber. I don't care anymore.

[@reisshep]

Same. I don't care about anything they put out after 2008. It's too different and there's something missing.

[@dypetrod4766]

I generally agree as well, although for me AHIG was kinda hard to swallow already. But I never stopped checking what they are up to.

[@richardpunzalan4347]

@@reisshepme still the same slipknot needs to retire now

[@Edmasterz]

Unfortunateky, it died together with Paul R.I.P.

[@Zyklon_B_still_and_know_God]

I read this comment while the video showed a clip of Corey in his "We are not your kind" (or whatever that fucking album was called 😂) mask. I just thought...indeed lol.

[@SUB-IN-SUPER]

"All the money in the world can't buy me." Well that didn't age well. Corey and Shawn is the problem. The fact they fired Craig, and Jay for "creative decisions" is such bs. Back when Paul was alive, he said this: "Without one of the memembers it just doesn't work." Even Jim said in their latest album that "rushed" It sucks to see such a great band has such a downfall. Seeing them become the soulless big "buisness" they despised from the start.

[@EncoreASMR]

Touché

[@TheTruckerMitch]

slipknot wouldnt exist without corey and shawn, wtf war you talking bout?

[@joshescalante4300]

^^^ Corey ain't even an original member.. tf rock this guy climb out from under..? Go back..

[@TheTruckerMitch]

@@joshescalante4300 i never said that, i SAID, this band wouldnt exist without them, just facts.

[@thefirepirate_real]

We dont know if they fired craig or if he quit

[@GOAT-rl2uq]

See, I'll be completely honest, even back when Slipknot first became a big(ish) thing, I thought their whole image smacked an awful lot like a marketing gimmick. I never bought that it was some band of anti-establishment misfits, but a VERY commercial band. And hey, being commercial isn't wrong, I love plenty of very commercial musicians, but the "fake underground" thing just seems silly to me.

[@SamuraiSilverhand]

Slipknot wasn’t a commercial effort from the get go, the band definitely came from a grassroots underground beginning. Unfortunately that’s not the Slipknot we have today.

[@PochiPandalope]

You could say that for anything past self-titled, but nah, slipknot was a really slow growing underground band throughout 94-98. Their demos at the time actually sounded just as good as some albums of their contemporaries so when they made to switch to corey they sprung into a record deal. They did all want to be a big commercial band though, even back then you could tell they were hungry for it. Iowa and onward always had at least *one* song that you could consider a radio single. My plague, left behind, before i forgot on vol.3, etc.

[@fmlAllthetime]

^^^ This is an accurate take as far as I can tell. Last decent album was Vol 3 and AHIG was 50/50 imo.

[@dypetrod4766]

They were definitely underground and "careless" to some extent prior to Self-Titled, but they definitely wanted to go big as well. In fact, I believe any band that implies they wouldn't want an opportunity to get big (even within the punk rock or black metal scenarios) are just lying to themselves. There is a difference between being popular and adhering to an overproduced sound to make that happen, and although every band wants the former, not every band is willing to do the latter, that's the point. But the only kind of band that would genuinely be okay with remaining absolutely small and unknown forever are bands that are hired for weddings and private events, and even those are ambitious lol! That said, they have always romanticized wearing masks as some sort of anti-commercial or anti-fashion statement in their interviews, but I never really bought that bs either. Why not just say, "we wear masks because it looks cool", period? That's what it is. If they genuinely just wanted to hide their faces and egos and "let the music speak louder", covering their heads with paper bags would have been just as effective.

[@adrianaslund8605]

Yeah. It felt like a tacky image to me.

[@WIBYTIEDH]

It's been all downhill since Paul Gray's death in 2010. I think part of why some fans are miffed, especially with how they handled Joey's health and death is the amount of genuine hurt they all felt with Paul's passing. Why didn't Joey deserve the same amount of compassion ?

[@eternity8811]

None of them even showed up for Gray's intervention so it could be said they didn't really show much care or compassion for him or each other generally, even back then.

[@WIBYTIEDH]

@@eternity8811 yeah that's kinda fucked up

[@D34TH30RY]

They also profit from Paul's death... I feel like Joey was the one who speak out about this, and many other issues... that's why the moment they had a chance to kick him out, they wasted no time. Clown has always been a fucking lame greedy jerk.

[@twiztedclown]

I like how you say especially how they habdled joeys health. They gave him choices he chose drugs and booze so he got the boot. Stop blaming bands for their humab members personal bad choices this aint WWE they arent being forced to perform 3 times a week to a scripted event they are musicians either they choose what they do from passion or should probably find a regular 9 to 5 if the road life means drug abuse. I wouldnt go to a friends or families intervention for getting hooked on their own stupid choices anyway. I make better ones left all that stupid shit in high school. Not gonna overdose on green concentrates and makes me feel normal.

[@mushroomknot]

They didn’t really care about Paul either. Paul’s widow asked the guys of Slapnut to attend an intervention for Paul, to try to get him help. Not a single one them showed up. According to the video I watched there was a member of Slapnut not to far away playing golf,GOLF, and straight up said no. I was laboring under the delusion that Slapnut was a family,a brotherhood, boy was I wrong. As far as I’m concerned Slapnut died when Paul did.

[@0ceanmachine]

So slipknot is basically kiss now? Glad I tapped out years ago

[@DrumRockMusicc]

They fell off after Iowa anyway

[@yeater7141]

@@DrumRockMusiccIowas obviously their peak, but I think subliminal verses and all hope is gone were alright.

[@skaldlouiscyphre2453]

They always were.

[@DrumRockMusicc]

@@yeater7141 Fair

[@YOUARESOFT.]

relax@@skaldlouiscyphre2453

[@lokkilucas1]

I believe Paul Gray's death (The bassist) also contributed to the band's changing direction as well. I remember the news and the press conference the band did without the masks, and after all of this the band definitely started changing to what it is now.

[@zzzz-sf5lr]

Paul was slipknot to the core

[@Cotillion308]

That was the end of slipknot

[@TheRoyalCheez]

im gonna poop myself

[@Lullabybones]

LOLLLLLL

[@thearmeniangamer3399]

Me too, lets hang out

[@Nikt0notMet4]

​@@thearmeniangamer3399I shat myself already

[@toastedtoaster3836]

I bet it smells good. You gonna eat that poop?

[@Antihero115]

Dang

[@clairvoyant_eclipse]

i love slipknot but i ignore everything after 2019 (and even some parts before that)

[@Audiatrix]

I became a fan 10 years ago and have to agree will always love there old work but not interested in anything they want to to release. Even we are not your kind was a decent album but I don't see them releasing anything good from here on.

[@tacitus6384]

Firing Joey over an email, never mentioning him again until he died and then using his image to garner sympathy and fan loyalty/money, has to be one of the scummiest moves I've heard of.

[@pjlikesmusic]

Rest in peace Slipknot October 31, 1996 - May 24, 2010

[@PoopilussMcDoopiluss]

Aug 20th 2008*

[@JoshuaCWolf]

@@PoopilussMcDoopiluss Nah, he's alluding to the date Paul Gray passed away (Rest in Peace), honestly that's likely where the band fully lost its way as he was one of the founding members and, if I remember correctly, wrote/co-wrote a lot of the music.

[@andrewlikesmetal1095]

​@@JoshuaCWolfhe wrote almost all of their hits.

[@JoshuaCWolf]

@@andrewlikesmetal1095 I thought that was the case tbh

[@judymccomiskie-yi7bo]

Well said

[@ElDaumo]

Slipknot are just KISS for edge lords

[@mktzombey]

​@@thotslayer9914so did Slipknot

[@davidn4956]

That title belongs to Ghost.

[@MetalPersonJ]

@@mktzombey lol no they didn't

[@swoogydoogy2654]

Both these bands have good music for their era, so it's a win either way

[@skaldlouiscyphre2453]

@@swoogydoogy2654 My father gave me two words of advice: KISS sucks. Wisest words ever spoken.

[@delix787]

10:18 I can never forgive Corey for that hideous mask. 😂

[@PochiPandalope]

the one good thing covid did was stop that album cycle quickly lmao

[@BilltheButcher1855]

I remember how arrogant he was when fans made replicas out of gallon water jugs and posted them. He basically said he liked that it pissed his fans off. The mask was just ridiculous.

[@Hastenforthedawm]

If Slipknot continue on like this, they will be Slip-Not-Anymore

[@SutekhTheDestroyer]

I haven’t listened to them since Iowa came out, and I still think Psychosocial is one of their newest songs 😅

[@alexl9980]

keep it like that 😂

[@0P3N54D0R]

Maybe you should make a video about industrial metal. Such an interesting genre!

[@thedepressos3805]

Oh my gosh yes, I can't wait to hear my favourite music critic shit on Nine Inch Nails!

[@GabiBrooks]

Second that! Dew it!

[@stealthbeatle4945]

@@thedepressos3805 As a NIN fan I am also looking forward to seeing this.

[@cartercolson7975]

as a MM fan (pretty sure they were industrial metal for an album or 2 in the past) I agree😎

[@oopsydaizi3s824]

Yes ! need a good video just for MINISTRY alone.

[@nemvallalomanevem7798]

Slipknot is the definition sell out,the sad part is that they did it to themselves

[@GrougMonner-uh6dx]

Not at all. They are still a very passionate group of musicians who try to put on the best show each night and keep pushing themselves with their music. Fans are upset bc they don’t get the details of the back room drama. They also believe whatever they hear from anyone who wants to make an accusation. Slipknot is def not a sellout band, that’s ridiculous.

[@nemvallalomanevem7798]

@@GrougMonner-uh6dx cope harder xd

[@Boston_420]

It was the plan from the beginning clown will tell you himself they used teenage angst to their advantage

[@D34TH30RY]

@@GrougMonner-uh6dx So passionate that they run their music through management before being released???.... kid you need to grow up.

[@shroomsandmetal]

As a big maggot since the Iowa days Slipknot has become the exact thing, they set out to destroy. They need to retire or go on to other projects.

[@thebobbalo1]

They never "set out to destroy" anything, sport. It's an image, an act. It's been an act since Iowa and prior. Angsty teens and edgy rebellion always makes $$$$ when you get fucked up teenagers eating it all up. There's no such thing as authenticity in the mu$ic bu$iness.

[@jonahc2807]

Paul Gray's death in 2010 inflicted a fatal injury on the band. From what I've read, Paul seemed to be the guy who held the leash. He was behind a lot of the creative decisions for the first 10 years of the bands existence. This, as well as his extensive involvement in the songwriting process is what made the first 4 albums classics. When he passed, the band was at a loss of what to do next. They've essentially been on autopilot ever since. Paul really was the support beam of the whole foundation. And in the years following his death, the cracks have begun to show and are only getting worse. After the 25 anniversary tour later this year, I don't know how much longer they will continue on.

[@keironhiggspoet]

i often check in with my best buddy who was a diehard slipknot fan who followed them from their iowa era (I even gave him a bootleg copy of their first debut MFKR which at the time was quite hard to find) and he says even now himself he says he can't stand them and agrees the journey was over when Joey was fired and then later passed away. the kiss comparison is definitely rooting in, although Mushroomhead's claim of plagiarism is a bit offhand though, seen as Mr Bungle originated "the goofballs in boilersuits" look many moons ago, and both band bands have taken some influence from that .

[@michealmccoy9249]

" I'll kidnap a thousand children before i let this company die " Henry J. Waternoose , monsters inc ..

[@davidescristofaros2241]

Slipknot's new album will be trap-influenced, very different from what they've always done. Jay's firing and Craig departure are likely influenced by this fact.

[@davidescristofaros2241]

I'm spreading disinformation btw

[@woodenhoe]

sounds like something they'd do ngl

[@nutterinherbutter5080]

​@@davidescristofaros2241 lol but imagine they actually did drop a terrible trap metal album and you were right all along lololol

[@Soundwave32791]

That would be terrible ngl.

[@CaptainTard]

Slipknot are the juggalos of numetal.

[@Shimlarian]

I thought Juggalo's are the Juggalos of NuMetal

[@borkistshorts7267]

Juggalos arent really Nu Metal. Theyre separate @@Shimlarian

[@CaselliEntertainment]

@@Shimlarianjuggalos are hip hop

[@nwerd7584]

I like juggalos way more than slipknot lol

[@JacksonTheEpic]

Juggalos are ICP fans, Slipknot is a band ??

[@DecayingReverie]

Bro, it is true what he said about merch. I looked around my room at my full-size AH-64 Apache attack helicopter and they totally have one with the Slipknot logo. It even comes with a rotating pilot seat so you can access controls behind you like Joey Jordison.

[@marekmaras7146]

WTF

[@knotletis]

I loved them when I was younger because I liked the sounds of extreme metal, but didn't know how to actually find any. I stopped listening to them once I found actual extreme metal, but looking at them now, they definitely feel like a brand and a live show than a real band. I'm sure they're making assloads of money, but I cant stand what they've become.

[@Spookynightraven]

Based for using the Paul Grey mask

[@Bubbles10181]

You nailed it with this video. Corey and clown have turned this once iconic band, that was loved by millions into a laughing stock. I've been a huge slipknot fan since I was 8 years old hearing iowa in like 2002. Now as a 31 year old man, seeing what they did to Joey, hearing clowns egotistical interviews, and the music being just mid at best since all hope is gone just turned me away from slipknot. I truly do not belive they will come back, and I think that they have tarnished thier legacy through thier actions, and through thier music since. But hey! We will always have the first 3 albums!

[@blestah]

MUSHROOMHEAD MENTIONEDDDDD RRRRRRAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH WTF IS A STABLE ROSTERRRRR🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@ianrotten4453]

I've been saying for years that Slipknot isn't a band, it's a business.

[@Toastaku]

Every band is a business lol

[@GrougMonner-uh6dx]

Yup. Super naive to point out that a band is a business. Once your sell a product, that’s what you are.

[@nemesis8626]

​@Toastaku yeah difference is though some bands actually enjoy making music and try to give back to there fans, Slipknot have been at each others throats and haven't liked making music since iowa, how often do they release new albums etc? What once every 5 or 6 years when they need to stay relevant?

[@rasbparri81]

​@@GrougMonner-uh6dx does holding a job make you only a mail man, accountant, etc.?

[@oopsydaizi3s824]

All bands are businesses to some degree

[@ARealSeaman]

Using Paul Gray's mask on your goblin cartoon is why I subbed to your channel (Paul's the reason I picked up bass) Having my own local metal band with aspirations of growing into something more, Slipknot's method of making anything into merch is incredibly helpful. Granted we're not making hockey pucks, but at the end of lockdown when the States started doing live shows again, my band was selling masks we made for a dollar and made our money back from it.

[@ARealSeaman]

To add about the Joey stuff, his condition was created by his drug usage. And as a day one fan of Slipknot, being able to still see his equipment and outfit in the Slipknot museum is both part of their history and emotional for die hard maggots.

[@iamnobody6626]

As a long time Mushroomhead fan, they've been doing the exact same thing for years (minus the merchandising so they have that going for them I guess.)

[@Clown-Hunter]

Replacing Craig with uncle fester was the last straw for me. If Sid leaves, they're finished.

[@deathpunch23]

I think Jim and mick are the only reasons u can even call it slipknot.

[@Grim.Doctor]

If Sid leaves, I'm done with Slipknot.

[@DarkMetalGortex]

It sucks that they went this direction honestly. Been listening to these guys since high school like junior and senior year '07, '08. The last album they put out that I truly enjoyed was The Gray Chapter and even though I'm more into metal genres like death, thrash and black metal I'm still an OG maggot for life.

[@SUB-IN-SUPER]

I agree. Being an OG maggot, I still have the M.F.K.R. album and seeing Slipknot heading down this road fucking blows.

[@hugebaIIs]

lol i remember when bone church came out nd fans were either forcing themselves to like the song or were just openly shitting on slipknot for it

[@SkamniX]

Ngl I liked that song

[@Hastenforthedawm]

Bone Church is basically just Till We Die.

[@GregJonson]

Slipknot used to be a band, now Slipknot is a brand.

[@omarzidjali]

Slipknot is basically Clown calling the shots and Corey having to just accept what he says. Clown and co.

[@davidblank420]

No shit it's clowns band 😂

[@C.P.O.B]

Should it be Clown's band? He hits a fucking keg 😂

[@davidblank420]

@@C.P.O.B Pretty diminishing, he's a great director and artist.

[@omarzidjali]

Sure, but putting the founding members of the band on a salary rather than a % split is insane. Bare in mind, Joey was also a founding member and ended up getting kicked out via email. @@davidblank420

[@Bubbles---]

​@@davidblank420I mean dude's not wrong though, he holds so much power over the band and it's "roles" despite him having literally the easiest role to replace, it just seems more like a control thing than anything else but that's just my opinion lol

[@angelcs9099]

And suddenly my signed CDs worth more and at the same time less lol

[@ianAEF]

Remember when Slpknot hid their identities and wanted to be known for their music, not giving much opinion on irrelevant stuff or drama? Now it's like every other week there's a new article "Find out Corey Taylor's opinion on string cheese or whatever on Loudwire".

[@itsthemoneyorstop1483]

I’ll always love the first 4 albums, those were the albums that guided me into heavier music and even now I still go back to Iowa every now and then, as far as after all hope is gone, I don’t acknowledge, the moment Paul died and Joey got fired is the end of slipknot in my eyes, rip to Paul and Joey

[@AbsolutelyCasual]

Slipknot used to be so cool, after the subliminal album they started going downhill, I miss back when they hadn't even revealed their faces yet

[@ArpeggioPegasus]

Wity Corey and Jim being in Stone Sour in the early 2000s, it was only a matter of time until we found the identity of every other member.

[@FishGlove2024]

It's simple: I was a fan of Slipknot when I was 15. I'm not 15 anymore.

[@ididurmom8477]

Slipknot is boutta go the Napalm Death route and replace everyone

[@NinjaCthulhu]

In terms of "selling out", this should't be surprising for one thing: they are getting older. I can tell you this, as bands get older, most will sell out, no matter who they are. Very few actually don't do it and maintain relevance and success over the years. I think its natural for people who get older and worry about financial security in your golden years. So I get it.

[@Ilikesleeping666]

Slopknot

[@kaomatic]

they became what they once stood against it’s just a corporate band where the members just work for clown and Corey

[@effindave6909]

I was the perfect age to get into slipknot when they blew up being in my early 20's. I've seen them live and was a huge fan up until vol. 3. There was a drastic change in the feel of the band right after vol 3 came out. It also doesn't help that Corey is an arrogant insufferable see you next tuesday. I'll give the dude props for being a top tier vocalist but it would go a long ways if he would learn to shut his mouth when he isn't singing in the band.

[@ChampagneRoses666]

I feel like mr bungle doesn’t get a mention compared to mushroomhead, mr bungle’s first album is a blue print to bands to come, watch “quote unquote” Then you will see, no one was doing what they was doing

[@micahrutland9021]

I recognized slipknot as an act that values money over artistic merit when they're 2nd album was released. They made sure to make that album heavy comparible to they're first, so that their established fan base would buy it, but they also made sure to have that one radio-friendly hit (left behind) so that they'd get radio and mtv airplay. That song was so out of place with the rest of iowa. Then the following album they sold out completely.

[@wrzesin8209]

ive never thought of "left behind" being radio-friendly, but youre right, it seems like it doesnt belong to iowa album

[@ieatnails]

@@wrzesin8209i always thought left behind fit in with the album its similar to my plague in a way but its slightly more upbeat in the tone

[@Stack-12]

Capitalism has to ruin everything

[@nova.exe87]

Looking at it through the Album previews on streaming services there’s just a ton of explicit ratings and just one PG song in the middle😭

[@raymondharnack4160]

I’m not the biggest Slipknot fan however…. It’s been 20+ damn years of hearing mushroom head complain about Slipknot…. They’re so mad another band came along and did what they were trying to do 1000x better. However Slipknot came to be is irrelevant they’re here now and are a huge band, get over it mushroom head and their fans.

[@wh4teley]

The problem with Mushroomhead isn't that Slipknot beat them to the punch. The problem is that Mushroomhead has never released a song that doesn't sound like it was written by 14 year old who just learned about drop tuning and FL Studio.

[@raregrimebeats1352]

Mushrooomhead sound more like faith no more then they do slipknot

[@davidblank420]

They both ripped off Mr. Bungle and openly admit it 😂

[@jlo7770]

I was done after they emailed joey. No offence to jay hes a good drummer, if they had issues with joey theres ways to go about it without making your fans dislike them. Trying to leach off joeys death like they were all cool and fine is like phil doing pantera and saying "its in memory of the abbott brothers" when they both despised phil and wanted nothing to do with him, its nothing more than a money grab trying to cash in on some extra money because the other bands were mostly flops

[@grindcoreninja6527]

Ironically, Mushroomhead is having the same Issue Slipknot has.

[@TheAlanRaptor]

I miss the days of the Left Behind video.

[@micahrutland9021]

Left behind was nothing but a deliberate radio friendly song so they could get airplay on radio and MTV. It is so out of sync with the rest of Iowa.

[@TheAlanRaptor]

@micahrutland9021 Really? I think it's less intentionally catchy than The Heretic Anthem. If anything, I'd say that about My Plague what with the clean vocal chorus and the fact that it's on the Resident Evil soundtrack. But what do I know?

[@micahrutland9021]

@@TheAlanRaptor I mean left behind became the music video and only single off iowa if I remember correctly. It was definitely the most radio friendly of the track list.

[@TheAlanRaptor]

@@micahrutland9021 ...Nah, man. The Heretic Anthem and My Plague were both singles, too.

[@-_-Frede-_-]

slipknot is dad rock

[@FlatChestsAreDelicious]

Don't diss dad rock like that

[@sebastianmunozochoa1485]

That's the destiny of all rock music, eventually.

[@-_-Frede-_-]

@@sebastianmunozochoa1485🪿💨

[@TheRocketLombax]

White stripes and arcade fire are dad rock now as well

[@Hastenforthedawm]

Dad rock for 11 yr olds (however that is possible)

[@deathcold_longplaysua4846]

Slipknot these days sounds lifeless. They are out of touch, their music sounds like empty shell and their personality now are none existent. None of their new songs sound impactful or good, and their live performances sounds like Corey Taylor are struggling to catch a breath before saying another part of the words from lyrics of their songs. Seriously, I'm not even lying. Look at any of their live shows nowadays and compare them to what they did in the past. You will see what I'm talking about. Like, back in the days or even a bit after that, like in 2008 or so, he still sounded good and could sing properly without stopping. But right now, he sounds like a old man that is sick with asthma and needs to retire. So yeah, in conclusion I quit following them for like 4 or 5 years ago and will never listen to them again. Especially after they fired other members that made this band at least somewhat good here and there.

[@andrewlikesmetal1095]

Without paul and joey they really fell off. They were really the spirit of the band. They should've probably ended things a while ago. Edit: jay was also a cool guy and did a great job on drums and didn't deserve to get cut loose.

[@Lorenzo_I.]

You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain or whatever

[@gazzore7339]

Slipknot died with Paul, now Shawn is just dragging a corpse around 👎

[@ledonutqc9250]

Ignorant guide on french punk next pls

[@musthakila]

they treated like trash joey when he was sick, and more infuriating was the interview from corey taylor with steve-o when he talks about how metallica treated jason while the guy was in the band, and i was like motherf*cker you did the same stuff with joey!!!

[@Xeroforte]

What should be more infuriating is you putting stock into the relationships of people you've never personally met or personally known. They spent 20 years on a bus together, you spend all day watching KZbin being snarky. You don't even deserve an opinion.

[@musthakila]

you either and here we are, good luck dude@@Xeroforte

[@deathpunch23]

​@@Xeroforteas if the original comment wasn't already about corey taylor commenting on people he doesn't know like he does all the time lol

[@memeose]

The soul of Slipknot left the moment they threw Joey out

[@luisbarrera5740]

They went from band, to phenomenon, to enterprise. What the hell do you expect? No one who ascends to that level stays as a grimey little band.

[@hobo1704]

Total BS

[@luisbarrera5740]

@@hobo1704 proof is in the pudding dude. Any musician who reaches their height becomes a corporation. That's the nature of the beast. To deny the reality of things is incredibly naive

[@WeWillAlwaysHaveVALIS]

​@@luisbarrera5740yeah nah

[@luisbarrera5740]

@@WeWillAlwaysHaveVALIS sounds like massive copium

[@SayKyleNotCow]

“Welcome to Slipknot, we’re very happy to have you in our new lineup. We’re a family, we’re brothers, we will die for each other. Oh by the way, you’re 10-99, you’ll make basically nothing per show and we plan on firing you out of the blue in about 3-5 years.” -Corey & Shawn, probably.

[@Zyklon_B_still_and_know_God]

This band died with Paul and Joey.

[@jeremebonesaw]

Grey chapter was the last album I bought which Paul helped write.

[@alrun1836]

So they’re the numetal version of KISS that sucks

[@Xeroforte]

You're telling me a giant band profited from their success? How dare they, they should've stayed a bar band. - complete idiots

[@alrun1836]

@@Xeroforte not what I said there’s levels to this shit . I’m not saying be like Mayhem telling everyone to go fuck themselves. I hadn’t followed them for a while I’ll admit. I figured they went the normal old band route touring with most of the core members till they couldn’t anymore.

[@JasonCan-wp2fu]

I really need to know what did KISS do to be so hated, I'm genuinely curious

[@guttsu]

I'd say not just their videos but their music has been formulaic for years now. Didn't want to admit it since they were such a huge part of my teenage years, but yeah in hindsight it seems very obvious.

[@ffsf739]

They may be horrible people, sell-outs and whatnott. But, regardless of that, they did to extreme metal what Metallica did to thrash: turned it into something accessible, fun and exciting to a much larger audience, opening doors to many other bands out there. That's not a small feat.

[@MetalPersonJ]

pffft, Cannibal Corpse did that way more.

[@ffsf739]

@@MetalPersonJ yeah, sure. Cannibal Corpse are super accessible and fun. I listen to them all the time on the radio. 🙄

[@MetalPersonJ]

@@ffsf739 You don't hear Slipknot's extreme songs on the radio either, its either Duality or the Stone Sour sounding songs.

[@ChucksSEADnDEAD]

​@@MetalPersonJ That's still an entry point for newer fans.

[@MetalPersonJ]

@@ChucksSEADnDEAD no its not

[@hello.im.auggie]

This is exactly why I don't think I'm that interested in seeing the actual band live, but rather, tribute bands. I'm running with SIC TX from Austin, Texas right now. Went to their debut performance and a later one both at the same venue. Let me tell you, one of the coolest nights of my life. With a tribute band, it both pays homage to the original, and can preserve a specific era of a band. With SIC TX, it's a mix of Self-Titled to Iowa, which are the fan favorites. It does kind of put it into perspective when I'd rather see the "poor man's" or "Mondo Burger" version of my favorite band of 13 years then the original.

[@CamdenDeSousa-it6jf]

Day 2 of asking for an ignorant guide to shock rock

[@TeeHeeTwinkleToes]

Day one of agreeing

[@exsanguinator1465]

alice pooper

[@notnobitc]

Slipknot should have ended when Paul passed away

[@deloriablackwolf1251]

Do you have a video on Mushroomhead yet? Slipknot's nothing compared to the drama behind Mushroomhead. Lineup changes every year. Their Corey/Crahan is a single dude, and he's been running the band into the ground for ages, and recently had some legal troubles after threatening some employees. I recently spent a solid few hours looking into it all. It's a fun read.

[@Stack-12]

The way they went from being creative and dark and heavy to being whiny sold out pop musicians was a disturbing transition

[@mr.bsworld_0oo0_]

They let it all slip away...

[@Soundwave32791]

Lmfao.

[@JadeKilljoy]

Honestly , I agree with everything you’re saying. It does seem like they are focusing more on the money aspects of the band instead of their image and sound. But honestly, I’m just really focused on the music. Seems like they just need more creativity. I’m a huge fan of slipknot and I’m not trying to say anything negative about the band at all. But thank you for the information about the band that I have not realized. I will research more!

[@Povilaz]

In summary: All Band Is Gone.

[@Aaron-og2wx]

They where over for me personally after Joey left! I've brought their albums after he left and have played them a few times a year! Same for me when David left Korn

[@AbominationalFailure]

I stopped listening after Vol 3. Looks like i made the right decision.

[@Stack-12]

The way they went from looking like they “don’t care what anyone thinks” to turning off the comment section on their videos because of criticism.

[@trevorbaker7168]

I was a pretty big slipknot fan in high school and early college (I became a fan after the Joey Jordison situation, so I didn't appreciate the weight of it yet). The Chris Fehn situation made it pretty hard for me to listen to slipknot for a while, but I got over it. Jay Weinberg situation was the nail in the coffin for me though, I refuse to listen to their music anymore. Corey and Shawn are absolute scumbags and a disgrace to heavy metal On top of that, their new music is actual garbage. I have never seen a band that has managed to continuously produce worse and worse music with each consecutive album.

[@El_Nano2005]

Dang, Slipknot rn is just sad, the band fires old members that fans all love, bring in replacements that are usually well liked after a while and then proceed to fire THEM and replace them AGAIN with someone else, I feel bad for Jay Weinberg and I hope that V man, Senor Tortilla and all the OGs stay until the band decides to hang up their gloves for good and retire, like Kiss...wait...FUCKING SHIT-

[@p1vsworld614]

I just want our real slipknot back 😭😭😭💔 💔💔

[@sp4cepigz174]

Once Andres and Josh left the band wasn’t ever the same.. slipknot has always used music from the MFKR days

[@gangstalker47]

Can goblins say the n word?

[@tonicandsails]

Yes, look up cyraxx

[@tonicandsails]

@thotslayer9914 If you're confused by me telling some one to look something up on youtube, I don't know what to tell you

[@tonicandsails]

@@thotslayer9914 cyraxx is literally classified as an attic goblin

[@derusmares9508]

Can he do the thugshake?

[@dylan.9847]

You’ve done it again, what a cracking inspiring video the coolea I’m proud to call myself a member of the coolea community

[@poultryforest7453]

I am glad i grew out of them in 8th grade

[@JustAnotherHeavyMetalManiac]

This honestly really hurts to watch this unfold. These guys were one of the most important gateway bands for me. This band died with Paul and Joey.

[@angelcarranza1856]

At this point slipknot is fucked i wonder who is next... Sid?, Jim?, shoot maybe even mick? I can see clown being the only one left when everyone is gone. Rip slipknot man

[@FreddieMercurysMercury]

Seeing them in a couple months Just hoping they don’t fire anyone else

[@davidsmith3382]

I pretty much exclusively listen to their first two albums. Anything after is incredibly hit or miss.

[@Menoetius.]

It's crazy to me like how many people push their agenda that Slipknot is just a group of heartless politicians, they've made hard decisions and clearly they don't like doing it face-to-face I will say that that's kind of messed up but they must have their reasons. I don't think they're the Devils that people are making them out to be I mean for example have you ever heard a word out of Mick Thompson about all the drama in the bullshit? No because he's probably like dude fuck all that just get me on stage when it's time to play my fucking guitar and let me put on a good show and keep me out of that fucking mess. Whether y'all like it or not Corey and Shawn have a business to run at the end of the day and not everybody's going to like every decision they make for the business

[@Zenki8118]

Slipknot ended when Paul died. I will forever be a maggot regardless for the first 3 albums.

[@NotSponsoredByEA]

Well they haven't been good since IOWA so nothing of value was lost

[@puklinnn]

i think that "we are not your kind" was pretty good album. WANYK, iowa and self-titled are top tier, the rest is just mediocre to bad. their last album is one of the worst things ive ever listened to coming from a big band.

[@pukeclaw1147]

they went limp for volume 3 and havent gotten up since

[@hurricanev6]

I always disliked Slipknot, they always felt entirely too gimmicky for me , with not enough of a unique sound to excuse it when we had bands like Korn, Adema, Drowning Pool, Godsmack, etc doing much the same thing sonically, but without so much focus on brand image. Glad to see I didn't misread their intentions. I feel bad for their fans though, it's rough when your heroes show their true colors.

[@guttergolem]

slipknot needs to embrace nu metal again (they won’t)

[@THEMETALISBETTER]

All hope is gone was the last truly good Slipknot record. I think people underestimate how much the rhythm section of the band was part of the sound. Joey Jordison and Paul Gray, to me at least, seemed to be the common denominators when I struggled through the gray chapter.

[@kipmetsate3960]

Never heard about mushroom head before!! But I do hope Eloy Casagrande makes success with them! Even if I prefer Sepultura...

[@brancor14]

Eloy bighouse vai botar o Corey pra mamar isso sim

[@brancor14]

Eloy bighouse vai botar o Corey pra mamar

[@milkwalkerjones633]

I saw both bands live in the early 2000's and Mushroomhead blew Slipknot out of the water.