Disney's Back In Another Slump Era And I'm Not Happy About It

Sorry it's a bit late, but we got there in the end!
With Disney's 100 year anniversary film performing terribly by Disney standards, I decided to take a look back at their previous animated catalogue and noticed that there seems to be an ugly pattern emerging with Disney's recent lack of success. What is happening with Hollywood's most successful company? And how can they get back on track to actually reflecting their reputation as a beloved nostalgia bait company. Who knows? Me that's who. I'll tell you Disney, but not before I complain first.

[@TheBorhork]

I would argue that treasure planet is a cult classic at this point. Same for Atlantis the lost world. Both of those movies were actually pretty good, but bad marketing/release timing killed their theater runs

[@Prototype-357]

Early 2000's animation is SOOOO UNDERRATED, both from Disney and from Dreamworks. We had great family movies like Brother Bear and Lilo and Stitch, great adventure movies like the two you mentioned from Disney and Spirit The Stallion of Cimarron from Dreamworks and also the absolute visual masterpiece that was the Prince of Egypt. So much innovation, so much creativity and it was all left by the wayside because everyone wanted to chase after Pixar's ultra-realistic animation style, it was fine when Pixar had it's own style and the other studios had theirs but now that everything looks the same I really resent the decision to focus just on 3d animation, it has brought us incredible movies but I don't want studios thinking the end goal of animation is to imitate real life, animation can do things live-action never could, this insistance on making 3d as realistic as possible while simultaneously ignoring 2d completely is keeping animation from achieving it's true potential.

[@OpticalSorcerer]

NGL, I feel like the 2000s was a "meh" time for animated films. While TP and "Atlantis" have gained cult followings, merchandise doesn't thrive on "in retrospect." They act on what's successful (or what they want to be successful) at that specific point in time.

[@audreyglass3125]

Totally agree with you. Treasure Planet has long been in my Top 5 favorite Disney films. And if I remember correctly one of the big reasons it bombed was because they released it the same weekend as a Harry Potter film or something else huge like that. I also love Atlantis and would argue that Lilo & Stitch and the Emperor's New Groove are fantastic movies as well.

[@shadowm2k7]

Yes!!! I ALWAYS have the idea that those two movies aren't actually as good as i remembered but EVERY TIME i watch them im like "wow these are great ????" Not perfect but way better than my brain defaults them as! I have them on at least once a year or so x

[@marshallc6215]

I ascribe to the conspiracy theory that Treasure Planet was killed by corporate. The inclusion of Ben seems like a toy pitch that really doesn't fit stylistically with what is literally a passion project, and the high cost to produce it means Disney's incentivized to let it underperform in favor of cheaper films, plus it would whip their two golden geese back into following the corporate goals instead of thinking of their own projects.

[@helixsol7171]

Hearing someone say Meet the Robinsons and Treasure Planet are "bottom of the barrel" hurts because they're genuinely amazing, fun, and entertaining. I also don't find Strange World nearly as bad as other people say it is, but I can at least see why some wouldn't like it.

[@zigzagintrusion]

_Meet the Robinsons_ hurt. I love that movie-it’s one that I turn on when I really need a pick-me-up!

[@helixsol7171]

@@zigzagintrusion Keep moving forward.

[@connorrivers995]

Treasure Planet was screwed over by bad marketing and being released around the same time as "Die Another Day" and "Chamber of Secrets".

[@princelamar1735]

That’s me when he showed brother bear.

[@IsoraBEinfinity]

I know right, those were my go-to comfort sci-fi movies as a kid and even now, don't even get me started on the soundtracks too >

[@LCCWPresents]

Sorry, but treasure planet is definitely the case of the company self sabataging the film on purpose to get rid of the deep canvas software from Tarzan. Disney didn’t want their 2d projects to succeed in the early 2000s while the ceo was also desperately trying to save face from the failures of that time opening up the Disney company as a whole to more experimentation. Honestly I like the relabeling of the post renaissance era as the experimental era in Disney animation because in the early decade the creators at Disney were encouraged to do almost any balls off tge wall project (lilo and stitch, pirates of the Caribbean, Atlantis, treasure plant, meet the tobindons to name a few). I would say the 2000s were a financial dark age, but a creative golden age in its own right.

[@frankielovejoy9928]

I actually read somewhere that Treasure Planet was only made as part of a contractual obligation. Apparently, the directors for Hercules had been pitching Treasure Planet for years and Disney only agreed to go with it after they completed Hercules. But since they were not really interested in the film, they didn't give it the attention is deserved. So, yes, Disney, in a way, self-sabatoged that one.

[@nevaehhamilton3493]

​@@frankielovejoy9928 Disney also self-sabotaged Small World

[@Crazyashley42]

@@frankielovejoy9928 Which is a shame because it's an absolutely beautiful movie

[@chrisbalboa-e9g]

@@nevaehhamilton3493there’s a movie called Small World!? Like the ride?

[@nevaehhamilton3493]

@@chrisbalboa-e9g it was the 61st animated feature. I may have misremembered the name. The movie is that forgettable. Edit: It's called Strange World. Looked it up just now.

[@JustSdn]

It's also crazy how I've heard no one even talk about Wish irl and I know a lot of big Disney fans

[@suenicole8979]

The most I've heard about WISH irl so far is about the scrapped concepts they should have used like a love story between Asha and a human form of the star, and King Magnifico and Queen Amaya originally portrayed as a villain couple. After seeing the concepts too, I deeply agree. Also, in my opinion, King Magnifico seemed more like a somewhat over-controlling dad than a major villain. His song wasn't really that memorable.

[@JustSdn]

@@suenicole8979 Yeah, I heard about the scrapped concepts too and it's really a shame that their creative vision was cut short due to the executives meddling and deciding what was more profitable for them. I really think that Disney needed these ideas to make the film more worthy of being their 100th anniversary celebration. Also yeah, I didn't find Magnifico to be that intimidating of a villain too and his upbeat "villain" song didn't really help anything either

[@OpticalSorcerer]

I've been hearing about it much more than "Strange World," but let's be real; it's DISNEY. Even with minimal marketing, it's success should speak for itself. But instead it's mainly the failure that speaks for "Wish."

[@OpticalSorcerer]

​@@suenicole8979 Let's be real: a LOT of things sound good in concept. Seeing how this film was written, I doubt they'd do the concepts justice. Plus I like the idea of Star (rather than Asha as many rewrites want) as Magnifico's child born with magic and thus kept away for fear of being abused, akin to Elsa and Rapunzel. I do like Magnifico as a King Triton-like figure, and I wish they made Asha Romani since Spain has the largest Romani population in Europe, and it'd be a nice callback to Esmeralda.

[@nevaehhamilton3493]

That's because they're *embarrassed* by its existence.

[@Crazyashley42]

Thank you for acknowledging that Encanto is great and only "flopped" because of the pandemic recovery. The fact that they've added events to Disney games, characters to the parks, and sections for Disney On Ice proves it's got staying power. On top of Soul, Luca, and Turning Red, I honestly think they need to rerelease Encanto in theatres in May.

[@youngkc866]

I respect your opinion and can see where you're coming from!

[@Crazyashley42]

@@youngkc866 Did you forget to switch accounts?

[@celticandpenobscot8658]

Oh, please. Not to knock Bruno; he's heartbreaking -- but he's a terror!!!😯😲 😱 Not a villain, not a demon, not a jerk -- but what reasonable 7-year-old wants to watch a move about anybody this unlucky❔❔❕ Seriously, ◼⚫look again.⚫◼

[@Crazyashley42]

@celticandpenobscot8658 he's a wet paper bag of a man. There's literally nothing threatening about him. And the movie uhhh...Isn't About Him (I just like the character) 7 year old are watching for Luisa, Mirabel, Antonio, and the music.

[@youngkc866]

I respect your opinion and can see where you're coming from! @@Crazyashley42

[@notmyrealname453]

The last time Disney were in a slump, they started trying newer things and they got out. Hopefully the same will happen again.

[@inactivehorse9753]

That probably won't happen, they don't take risks anymore like they used to. So unfortunately, they are already fallen behind compared to other big studios, and they simply refuse to change.

[@JonSmith-hk1bq]

What do you mean "tried newer things"? They got out of the slump by releasing princess musicals.

[@bobbomorph]

I do think we can consider Encanto an unqualified success. Its post-release merch sales, soundtrack sales, spinoff media and park presence have cemented it as a modern classic. Most people love it, or at least are aware of it, which is more than you can say for the likes of Raya and Strange World. Otherwise, fab video.

[@loveandwar007]

This current dark age actually began with Ralph Breaks the Internet in 2018. People are free to like that movie, but there’s no denying that it’s a blatant horrifically dated cash grab of Disney just finding excuses to promote themselves. And I agree with you about the slump beginning with Lasseter’s departure. Yes, he needed to go, but I also blame Jennifer Lee for the lesser quality of films we’ve been getting as of late (Encanto being the exception.) I’m sure she’s a lovely person, but she is not suited as a creative director. They need to find someone with Lasseter’s ability to think outside the box.

[@DragonGoddess18]

You're right about all of this Ralph Breaks the Internet wasn't well-written. Plus, whatever Jennifer Lee is doing, she needs to improve. Yesterday

[@riotkitty]

You’re right about everything aside from Lasseter needing to go. He was fired because he hugged people a lot. That’s literally it.

[@txwtw]

Disney probably will have its renaissance era again, it had its dark age before, and then had its renaissance era, the same thing will happen to Disney in the nearby future possibly

[@Prototype-357]

@@txwtw While we're young, hopefully.

[@colbystearns5238]

2018 was also the year Sony thought outside the box and came up with Into The Spiderverse which basically changed our expectations of what animation should be moving forward. Disney sort of took note of that with Wish but they couldn't fully commit to it because they had grown comfortable with their standard Pixar-esque look for the past decade which is why that movie looks the way that it does. People were able to sniff out that lack of confidence from a mile away and weren't impressed by what they saw. Movies like Snow White, Cinderella, Sleeping Beauty, The Little Mermaid, etc. were big risks when they first came out, even Frozen was able to do things that were different from what was expected of Disney at the time and it's those risks that helped keep the company creatively vibrant for many years. It seems like they've forgotten how to take a chance on quality because of their relentless consumption of other studios and their various IPs, purging anything that made people like the company in the first place and becoming just another parasitic monopoly like Standard Oil over a hundred years ago.

[@BluffsCastle]

Disney is in a never ending cycle of good and bad eras 1. First they had the golden era 2. Then they lost a lot of money during WWII and had to resort to making package films 3. Then they had the silver era 4. Then they lost a lot of money after Sleeping Beauty bombed, Walt died, and their movies became cheaply animated. They almost went bankrupt after The Black Cauldron flopped, but luckily The Great Mouse Detective saved them 5. Then we had the Disney Renaissance 6. Then we had the experimental era, which, except for Lilo and Stitch, had either bad box office returns, poor reviews, or both. I actually really like all the movies in this era except for Dinosaur, Home on the Range, and Chicken Little, but even they have their good moments. Luckily, movies like The Emperor’s New Groove have become cult classics 7. Then they had the revival era 8. Now we’re in the post-revival era. Strange World bombed, Wish only just now made back its budget and got poor reviews (but for the record, I thought both of these movies were decent), and the fact that the next Disney Animated Canon feature film is going to be released this year, and yet we don’t even know anything about it (it’s not Zootopia 2 or Frozen 3), says a lot.

[@charlescorpuz4476]

But this era, they have no box office success at all. Their bronze/ dark age era, the black cauldron was their only box office bomb and everything was success, but not outstanding success. Then the post renaissance era they had 3 financial success with Dinosaur, lilo and stitch, and Brother bear. Now, they have no box office hits since Frozen 2, and that was from revival era. I think this era should be called Box office bomb era.

[@facusmendoza1061]

​@@charlescorpuz4476hopefully Penelope or Bluebeard can become their biggest success if they ever get confirmed

[@ana-xx6tn]

I think the worst part is that pixar kinda is flopping too in most of this bad era that you mention pixar was on fire but now they both are flopping

[@loveandwar007]

Actually Who Framed Roger Rabbit gets the credit for saving Disney prior to the Renaissance era sealing the deal. And really, Strange World bombing as hard as it did is pretty much their own fault, they didn’t advertise the film at all. They wanted it to fail.

[@loveandwar007]

@@ana-xx6tn It’s because the Disney CEOs are not only demanding all these awful sequels but also putting their grubby little handprints all over both studios’ scripts

[@suenicole8979]

I feel like Disney has stopped being as out-of-the-box imaginative as it used to be and is now staying in the box working with a specific checklist of ideas to in a safe zone but limits its storytelling flare. I think Disney's fallen into a habit of playing it safe and taking little to no risks. The risks they do take don't have enough effort thus setting the projects up to fail and when they do fail, they fall back on popular franchises to do damage control. However, this milks and strains the popular franchises for all their worth draining out what made them good in the first place and now leaving them somewhat monotonous. So while other industries or testing the waters of ideas even if the results might be bad but they learn from them, Disney is staying within a complacent boundary to get only good results without any bad results to learn from.

[@frankieseward8667]

Until now. After wish there's definitely gonna be a soul search

[@hika7446]

To be fair, Strange World was also barely advertised. If someone hadn't told me, I might have never known it was a Disney movie to begin with.

[@bxrningdragxn]

unrelated but I love your pfp!! ^^

[@GoofyAhhBoxy]

I tried to watch the movie and I just couldn’t even get through it. It was soooo boring and I couldn’t get immersed in it unlike movies like Toy Story 2. I tried watching again but stopped watching even quicker. Maybe that’s another factor to why no one cared about it

[@hika7446]

@@bxrningdragxn Thanks!!

[@hika7446]

@@GoofyAhhBoxy I will take your word on it. I haven't actually seen the movie, just pointing out

[@irritatedlibrarian9057]

Can confirm. I just learned it was a Disney movie from this video.

[@alexandruulesan7009]

Honestly, I think Disney needs a managerial shakeup as much as, if not more, than a creative one. The current leadership has proven time and time again what their priority is, and it's not quality.

[@AlexMartinez-gv7hy]

Treasure Plant is a underrated film that wasn't given support cause Disney was already ready to leave 2d behind and go full 3d

[@OpticalSorcerer]

It's astounding to me that Julia Michaels and Benjamin Rice made such generic songs. Pop music can be very diverse, and I wish Disney found a better team to do the songs (and the story).

[@twilight3272]

Bro Treasure Planet is the one movie I 100% believe is victim of deliberate sabotage, I think it ought to be thrown out of any datasets used to make claims about popularity. I’ve never even seen it so I’m not just some fan screaming about my cult classic, I’ve just heard too much about the production environment around that movie.

[@the33rdguy]

To be fair treasure planet was totally destroyed by disney itself. That movie is a masterpeice.

[@Dalek97]

I think another factor in Wish underperforming was the strikes. When the cast can't do advertising, of course it'll slide under the radar. We saw the same thing with "The Marvels". Yes Disney is in something of a slump but everyone has slumps. DreamWorks and Pixar went through their own and they managed to bounce back. Media landscapes always change and companies are always, always, slow to react and adapt to that.

[@lasercraft32]

I don't think that's as much of a factor compared to the movies just being less-than mediocre in general... Literally every review I've seen just talks about how bland or terrible the writing and plot are for these movies.

[@HugeToad]

You cant exactly blame the flops on the strike. Sure, it probably had an impact but many people who have seen Wish complain that it was bland and underwhelming. With The Marvels, many complained that there were no stakes as all the characters were already overpowered. While every company has had its slumps, it isnt just Disney itself, all of their linked properties are failing too. Marvel had had many flops this year (except GOTG 3), the various Star Wars shows have gotten poor reception and Mandalorian has seen a decline in quality (at least in my opinion), Pixar has released some of their worse received movies ever and so have the actual Disney Studio themself. Trust me, im not happy about this because I and many grew up on Disney, but if they dont get out of this trend then im afraid they will steadily decline

[@JonSmith-hk1bq]

Meh. I don't think that celebrities shilling their movies really moves the needle much. There are some exceptions like Ryan Reynolds, but for the most part it's just background noise. And that's not even mentioning out decentralized culture. An appearance on The Tonight Show today isn't the same as it was 20 years ago. Side note: Pixar's bounced back? That's news to me.

[@MsSumoon]

I do think they are lacking proper leadership, and Jennifer Lee is not a good leader, she is a better director but as head of the studio she is not good. I do think Disney thought that since she directed 2 of their hits (Frozen and Frozen 2) she would have been great as the top studio leadership. But she clearly is out of touch with what animated movies are doing, she plays very safe, she “wrote” Wish, and look what it is? It's so poorly written that people are suspecting it was written with the aid of AI. (Even some direct to video movies are better written and those were extremely rushed). I believe she also caters too much to the marketing department, and Wish proves that, it has all “focus“ group written all over it: 1- Adorkable Lead, 2- Annoying talking animal, 3- Cute plushie with no chracter, 4- A not that menacing villain( and avoiding making a female villain by the way), 5- A story that toddlers could follow (but make it dumb, because “kIdS aRe DuMb“), 6- Poorly thought out representation, 7 - Shallow word building to be MARKETABLE. The moment Disney stop trying to control their creatives they will have a new renascence, say what you will about Micheal Eisner, but he did allow risks in the animated studio. Now under Bob Ieager again, it's so much focused in being Marketable that it's forgetting to be creative and fun. I have no doubt that they thought that having a POC lead and having this awkward middle-of-the- road style was risk enough.

[@chasehedges6775]

Frozen 2 sucked and Bob Iger is ruining everything

[@frankieseward8667]

​@@chasehedges6775he'll he removed soon enough. In about 2 years

[@ellencoleman4604]

Thing is, both Frozen and Frozen 2 are a mess. I think Frozen hit on a goldmine accidentally simply through having both a sister relationship and a magically powered princess at the same time, as well as a song with iconic visuals in Let it Go. The success of those three elements makes her more lucky than anything in my eyes.

[@chasehedges6775]

@@ellencoleman4604 Frozen 1 was a decent/good Disney film. 2013 was a simpler time.

[@tzxyuaesthetics9338]

i don't think wish was *as* bad as everyone said. i've watched way worse disney movies that have done really well. i just don't think the art and music were compelling enough, especially for the hundredth anniversary

[@BluffsCastle]

Yeah. The animation was more 3D than 2D for my liking. They should have made it look just like Paperman instead.

[@unicornpupart]

@@BluffsCastlei love paperman i completly agree

[@SketchBud]

Disney's downfall was largely due to Bob Cheapek's leadership. The guy cared more about the company getting higher prices from customers than creating compelling films and TV shows. If you want to learn more about Bob's time at Disney, I recommend watching Animat's history video.

[@chasehedges6775]

Bob Iger and Bob Chapek are EQUALLY to blame for the downfall

[@SketchBud]

@@chasehedges6775 Yeah, but I honestly think Chapek is the real cause of Disney's downfall.

[@chasehedges6775]

@@SketchBud I think the downfall started with the Disney remakes

[@disneyngooglesuckatvideogames]

Bob Iger not chapek. Chapek was the fall guy from Iger ambitions from acquiring stuff to streaming.

[@riotkitty]

Bob Iger as well. Most of the current problems at Disney were created by him

[@noobmasterruben5167]

If Disney doesnt make a new movie with the same quality as Soul, Puss in Boots 2 or Mutant mayhem. Then i dont think there is hope for them

[@SomePkmnlovingdude]

They're never was. =(

[@Prototype-357]

This is the first Disney dark age I remember, I was born around the turn of the millenium so I don't remember the previous one cause I was just a toddler. In my opinion the problems actually didn't start at the main animation studio, they started at LucasFilm with the sequel trilogy then they passed on to marvel after the Infinity saga is over and to the animation studio but they've just cemented in the animation studio now, it was already going down with Ralph breaks the Internet and Raya and the Last Dragon, Encanto was the last reprieve of that. No matter which subsidiary it is the problem is the same, they've grown too comfortable, now they feel like they are entitled to our aproval and just do the bare minimum to get it, they think it's smarter to stay in their comfort zone and just give us safe stories but that's not smart because that's not what we want, they don't want to listen to us anymore, they don't value their audience anymore so of course they won't listen to us.

[@Alexs_the_king348]

Its crazy that you liked wish so you hated chicken run 2 but chickrn run 2 was better then wish by a lot wish sucked

[@isaias5840]

Yeah man I was laughing hard

[@OpticalSorcerer]

I'm surprised how many people liked "Wish" (especially Disney fans)--but everyone has different tastes.

[@Alexs_the_king348]

@@OpticalSorcerer yeah but I don't understand how anyone can like that movie wish sucked for 1000 reasons first the animation looked like tv series story was bad characters are boring and the villain is right what if someone's wish was to kill everyone he can't grant that and then main character who I don't remember what'd her name tells him he's wrong music was the most disappointing parts of this movie the only decent one is this is the thanks I get and that's like 6/10 king m agnifivo is actually a good guy and when you make villain good guy that's not a villain over all wish was 3/10 worst Disney movie ever made and definitely second worse animated film what's the worst animated movie of 2023 that is elemental yeah movies stupid story is really bad and predictable the pipe pot was boring uninteresting and sucked dad's shop plot also sucked I can tell where the movies going In like 5 minutes of the film ember is a boring character wade is the most annoying character I've ever seen in an animated film the pacing is terrible and the romance is weak and when romance is weak in a romance movie yeah you failed film over all elemental is a 2/10 I don't know how can anyone like that film

[@OpticalSorcerer]

@@Alexs_the_king348 I don't mind the animation, though I prefer 3D and 2D over hybrid style. And you don't have to tell me about the poor writing and music. Watching it, it feels like a movie that was in the middle of production when it got released.

[@rhythmicmusicswap4173]

As someone said I think the 3rd dark age started with Ralph breaks Internet, since the first the writing was meh and the critics begun to be less appreciative of Disney 's animated movies

[@charlescorpuz4476]

Ralph 2 and frozen 2 should still be considered as revival era. Those were box office hits and still well received by critics and audience.

[@9rbloomer836]

I completely agree! Great video! What's baffles me is how there are people out there who laugh at us and say we are being super picky and crazy and they are completely in denial that Disney has lost its magic as of now!

[@Will_Morand]

Okay but unlike current Disney films, Treasure Planet was an absolute banger and if you disagree you either haven’t seen it or are lying.

[@bella_daze3092]

I haven’t even seen the full film and I remember watching the trailers being in complete awe. Something about it was just magical. And I remember wondering why I didn’t see in theaters- I know it was a trailer built into one of the DVDs I had, but every time I saw it I was always in awe. And I hope to watch it fully this year

[@bumblebeeproductions1673]

Meet the Robinsons it’s also pretty underrated imo

[@chasehedges6775]

@@bumblebeeproductions1673 One of the best Disney films of 2007

[@marijougonzalez8437]

@@bumblebeeproductions1673 I agree. Also Brother-bear. That movie raised me.

[@ultimatedisneycruiselinefa5112]

I’ve seen it, and loved it. Same goes for Meet the Robinsons and Brother Bear.

[@hey_bucklebob]

Current theory: it’s because of the high quantity of mid content being output combined with families subscribed to Disney+. New movie coming out? Families go, eh it’s probably going to be mid. Not worth buying the expensive cinema tickets. We might catch it on D+ instead. Solution? Either kneecap Disney+ or generate lots of hype for movies so people feel they HAVE to see it in theatres. Either that or drop the ticket prices somehow.

[@gamingwithrainbowfish698]

Exactly this I saw strange world in theaters and liked it but most people ever since Covid watch movies on Disney+ because it was the only way they could for two years I haven’t seen Raya but I did see Encanto and I do know that people love Raya so I have no doubt that if Covid wasn’t a thing they would’ve been smashes and I’m almost tempted to say that if Disney+ Wasn’t a thing or if it was only a thing for the two years that we couldn’t go to theaters and that wasn’t a thing anymore people would’ve liked those movies more but people have gotten lazy ever since Covid I know I’m one of them lol

[@facusmendoza1061]

​@@gamingwithrainbowfish698unless there was in film that creates so much hype and takes risk has a good story and heart and so much efforts then people will commit to go to the movie theater and enjoy it from themselves instead of watching it on Disney Plus and making it a motion picture event

[@gamingwithrainbowfish698]

@@facusmendoza1061 I understand your point but I don’t think it would be a lot of people so I don’t know how much money it would make people might be more confident now that people are going out more but a lot of people have the better safe than sorry mentality

[@hollum1648]

Encanto may not have gotten Disney box office money but the merchandising has made them $$$ and will continue to do so for years, like how they’re still making money off Snow White 87 years later

[@hirahiro2331]

Maybe they're cash grabs with recycled formula, not expanding enough on what they can do. Also, I loved Meet the Robinsons! I thought it was good! I thought a lot of the movies were good! But as the audience gets older and starts shifting while Disney is still using the same formula, it becomes harder to attract anyone who isn't a die-hard. Sometimes, they do stray a bit from the regular formula, but usually, the results are the same. Look at DreamWorks, for example! From how they were to now! Their movies are super engaging (the last wish?! Mwah! Beautiful)! Hell, they make it more engaging with its story and art! They switch art often, too, depending on the movie and by adding beeped out curse words in kid's film!

[@hirahiro2331]

Wish had a different style but didn't work because the cooperation focused on the money than the art

[@chasehedges6775]

@@hirahiro2331 Exactly

[@godzilla657]

At this point maybe the artist should take over disney. Just look at Wish concept art. Also there were the ones who were willing to make Wish a 2d film.

[@vincenthoule5643]

Wish should've been in a full 2d or in 2.5d like klaus(netflix), paperman or spiderverse. Or disney should've made a crossover(mickey, his friends and all the disney characters) disney movie to celebrate the 100th annivesary.

[@masteroflag]

I will say even in Walt’s time there were peaks and valleys. Snow White was a hit but Pinocchio and such tanked and many films are just shorter stuff cobbled together to fit the length till after world war 2

[@ThePrincessCH]

I think at this stage, Disney is mainly focusing on the titles they acquired rather than their original organization.

[@sabitazizov3440]

Honestly, I think that they should bring either John Lasseter or someone with the same vision as him.

[@elianperezjaber]

I certainly disagree with you on the quality of both Treasure Planet and Strange World, cause I think that those two are great movies and I will throw hands on that. I do agree that a large part of the reason why they flopped isn't cause Disney doesn't know how to make sci-fi films, it's cause disney doesn't know how to market them. Personally I think Strange World failed for the same reason Blue Beetle failed. Because 90% of the marketing for Strange World was just "hey look we got a gay mc" and it just came off as performative and virtue signaling. Same thing with Blue Beetle, DC thought that just by being like "hey look this is a movie about a Mexican superhero" it was gonna be enough but it just wasn't.

[@delphoxhoopa7289]

Disney is definitely in a slump. I hate Encanto's ending, I've heard nothing but negativity for Raya and it's botched trust message, and I liked Wish, but even I admit the original storyline would've been WAY more interesting. It's like they're both afraid of trying new things, and simultaneously mess up the things they do try.

[@mrheello5181]

Why do you hate Encanto's ending?

[@delphoxhoopa7289]

@@mrheello5181 In my opinion, it counters the message it's trying to tell. It spends the entire movie just how dysfunctional and toxic their family is, and just how much Mirabel and Bruno suffered from it...only for Mirabel to turn around as say "We're a family because of you," when Alma spent an entire DECADE ignoring her and scapegoating her, forgave Isabella for being a blatant verbally abusive sister, which, unlike Alma, she NEVER apologized for, and despite the movie showing how unfairly Bruno was treated, it's HIM who ends up apologizing for the wedding fiasco, and NO ONE else apologies for treating him like an omen. I know the point is you can fix a broken family with enough effort and trying to change, but it felt like it made the victims, not the abusers, the ones who should be responsible for doing it. Everyone who caused the problems of the movie got rewarded, even when they clearly didn't deserve it.

[@charliesawesomeworldofadve8024]

I’m sure that if it was not for covid, Raya and Encanto would’ve been major hits at the box office

[@howardyates4848]

Encanto yes, but I doubt Raya would. I haven't heard anyone talk aboit it since it came out.

[@kasei6855]

I also agree for encanto, but raya falls flat for more than just covid. Its story is bland for an Asian inspired legend, and also its morals are in question due to terrible writing. The third act is a terrible life lesson if you wipe away the Disney in it. Blindly Trust and forgive someone who has blatantly tricked and tried to kill you over and over, without them getting any repercussions for their actions that last. It could have been good, but the writers did a bad job, as well as bad casting as most characters are insufferable to watch.

[@colbystearns5066]

Encanto would’ve been a hit in normal times most definitely but Raya seemed to have quite a few issues that people didn’t like such as Awkwafina’s comic relief dragon character and a botched message of learning to putting your trust in other people (even someone like Namaari who betrayed the main character multiple times, giving Raya every reason to be suspicious of her throughout the film). It just seems like a mediocre movie that’s reflective of their recent decline in quality continuing with Strange World and now Wish.

[@wildfireamv]

I think it's important to differentiate here between commercial success and good films. They might not be doing well financially with releases now and back in the early 2000s but a lot of these were still actual good films that mostly suffered from things like terrible marketing or external circumstances like COVID (and some I believe just lacked a solid soundtrack or musical angle which appeals to the disney audience). I just hope that they can still see the potential of new IPs regardless and future projects don't get scrapped because of their poor business practises in these eras.

[@Alpha-oo8]

I think the part that makes this slump stand out is that, it’s not just the main animated films that are struggling, but everything is struggling under their umbrella

[@kalzium8857]

I think Disney is currently in a dark age. But this time Disney may not find a way out. Disneys competition is tough and this time they don't have enough money to buy them all. Disney also doesn't seem to understand their own ips that they purchased. Marvel and Star wars were huge successful ips that appeal to a more boy-centric audience. Why do they have to be girl-centric ips? Disney already has their princess movies to fill this niche. Disney also has lost a lot of talent over the years. Especially talent that understand art. The live action remakes often seem like a downgrade to the original. From the "realistic" looking animals in little mermaid and lion king to changing the story without understanding why it works in the first place. In the past Disney has bounced back, because there wasn't much competition. But today the competition is fierce. We even have newcomerd like Nintendo that are interested in the movie market.

[@caelis_909]

I'm a girl who was a huge fan of Marvel and Star Wars and by them making it more for "girls", it kinda lost interest because it became all about that, it became kinda generic, which is the oposite of what it's always been. At least they took the wrong uproach to what they wanted to do. I also always hated the live actions. I think the problem is that certain movies only work on cartoon form. It was made as a cartoon in the first place for a reason and as live action, what usually looks believable and possible in cartoon, looks silly and weird in real life, not to mention the limitations that are put and how it takes the feeling of magic away.

[@Junoisverysleepy]

Dude Star Wars and Marvel may be “boy” IPs but girls always liked them and were the backbone of its fanbase in the 2010s. I agree that the movies have gone to shit but that’s not because they keep adding “girl centric” plot lines. The writing just sucks because there’s no clear collaboration between the different Marvel/SW productions and proper quality control for the brand has gone out the window. Wanda vision rocked until it shit the bed with it’s Finale and Multiverse of Madness put her down like a dog with that awful character assassination. Girls aren’t ruining Star Wars. It’s Disney+

[@charlescorpuz4476]

They bounced back during the 2010s tho and they have tough competition with the rise of Illumination. They will bounce back once they got their groove.

[@Jerome18921]

@@charlescorpuz4476 Illumination was practically bottom of the barrel as well if you account for it's later movies

[@Jerome18921]

It was legit the worst 3d animation studio for a time until its latest comeback

[@comenerdwithme3346]

Personally I’d say Encanto and Maybe Turning red were the last good Disney movies.

[@meathead2934]

So far in this new dark Era of Disney every animated studio has been beating Disney at their own game like Sony Animation, DreamWorks, Pixar (sorta), Netflix, even Illumination!

[@coachcherokee1488]

0:37 actually there was a slump era in between that during WW2 called the package era

[@Catz2003]

i agree disney hasn't been good since encanto and that movie came out in 2021!

[@frankieseward8667]

Wishs problem was that it felt like a product with checked boxes. It never felt like a full movie

[@ShesquatchPiney]

We might be giving Lasseter too much credit. I wholeheartedly thought he had the secret sauce, too, but the movie "Luck" made for Apple TV would prove otherwise. Maybe it sucked cuz they gave him horny handlers and they stiffled his secret sauce? A shame regardless.

[@perunarieska9182]

Small correction: Wish hasn't recovered its budget yet in ticket sales. Theaters take a cut from box office ticket sales, so even if those raw ticket sales appear to be more than the budget, the studio hasn't recovered the costs yet. Theaters take 40-50% from ticket sales in domestic market, 50-60% in Europe, and 75% in China.

[@ashleythecommenter7112]

It's sad to see how much L's Disney has been having. They're in big trouble if they can't turn things around. Encanto has been the only truly solid disney movie as of late. I mean, even Trolls Band Together and Leo have been more liked than any other recent disney film.

[@MatildatheMoonwolf]

I think the biggest reason this is happening is that, A) Tickets for theatres are more expensive now, especially for families with children. Not everyone has the money to watch more than one movie a year in theatres. B) Disney + exists. People have already been trained that it’s cheaper to skip the movies in theatres and wait for it to release on Disney + while not needing to pay extra for snacks and drinks. This even happened to Pixar with Lightyear. You can even rewatch older Disney films at any time there so there’s also that. C) Their movies are super expensive to make. 200 million dollars, especially when without the character designs, don’t look that much different from something like Illumination which on average, have their movie budget to closer around 70 million. Yes, Wish and Strange World technically did things differently in animation and/or character design wise, but judging by the box office results, it’s not clicking with most people. I think the question is less about them being in another dark age, but more of ‘how long will this new dark age last?’

[@Oscar95451]

This is why my own idea for a live-action Winx Club movie Will be Disney+ exclusive

[@whosjoell]

meet the robinsons is seriously underrated

[@MewDenise]

How can they be in a creative slump? Go back go the fairytales Disney! There are plenty of tales out there you can adapt

[@ThePrincessCH]

"Wish" was their attempt to go back to basics.

[@BalissaQueen]

Thank you for addressing this. I've seen way too many Disney fans who still think we are in the Revival era, but I believe the Revival era ended in 2019 with Frozen II. No Disney animated film released after Frozen II has even broken past $300M worldwide. We can debate the story-telling or film quality of Ralph Breaks the Internet and Frozen II, but at least they were still financial successes. Both the Transitional and Post-Renaissance era are considered dark ages because they represent not only and shift in management, but a string of films that were either critical or financial flops. Which is exactly what's happening right now. I propose that this current era (every film released from Raya and the Last Dragon onwards) be called either something like the Pandemic era or Streaming era.

[@d4red3v1l8]

I’m remaking wish on wattpad, I’m also remaking the songs lol.

[@spinballpac-man]

2:16-2:19 ……I see what you did there 😏

[@ThenewTchannel]

I don't think it's fair to compare this current era to the 2000s, because while there were certainly failures, many of those failures were the result of poor marketing, bad timing, or audiences just not understanding the value of the film. Meet the Robinsons, Treasure Planet, Atlantis:the Lost Empire, The Emperor's New Groove, these are all cult classics that have gotten people talking even after their time in the spotlight ended. The 2000s was a transitional period, so not everything Disney did worked. What we're seeing now, however, is just corporate stupidity and creative bankruptcy. Encanto was the one film released by Disney since Moana that I would willingly watch again or even watch at all, and that was released three years ago. Disney has been under this impression that if they keep shoving popular brands into people's faces, they'll continue to make money for doing no work, and it's finally coming back to bite them

[@revanius2213]

I wonder if Disney has become complacent, it's been nearly ten years since they had a true rival to compete with. While Dreamworks makes good movies it just doesn't have the resources to match Disney anymore. Disney can make a movie and feel guaranteed that it'll make them movie after their massive successes of the 2010s and any single failure they can just brush off and move on. Maybe if the competition heats up again the quality will increase.

[@JonSmith-hk1bq]

It's not single failures. Outside of Encanto blowing up on Disney +, they've had nothing but expensive disasters since Frozen II. Pixar's in the same boat. It's bad enough that Elemental's lukewarm box office is being heralded.

[@Eldollow]

I personally believe that Disney goes from 100 to 1, then it somehow goes back to 100, but right now its going down again

[@CaptMeg]

I’m just getting tired of seeing the same animations in each new film. Yes it’s good quality and it’s pretty but what I liked most about the Disney renaissance was the different styles of animations they were able to create using traditional animation techniques. Just look at the difference between little mermaid and mulan , and then look at tangled, Moana, Frozen and Encanto, it looks all the same. Hate me for it but I believe 3D animation is hurting Disney.

[@Lovix13]

your clearly ignoring 2 very important factors: the writers strike & disney supporting israel

[@Junoisverysleepy]

Yeah I feel bad for Strange World. I love Treasure Planet but when i was a kid I was scared to watch it cause It looked kinda scary from the Trailers.

[@ultimatedisneycruiselinefa5112]

Same for me too.

[@SpiritKitten]

I would argue that creatives at Disney have amazing ideas, look at the Wish Art book, BUT Disney executives are playing it too safe and not willing to take a risk on something. They need to do another Hunchback, with tons of risks.

[@pandoraarts7748]

I'm sorry I'm trying to figure out if your serious that Meet the Robinsans and treasure planet are bad movies. Because thats a crazy take for me.

[@ChanceDrive]

The excuse is that these slump flims were made in the pandemic, Encanto and rala were made before the pandemic only to be finished in 2020 for release in 2021ish. If anything the pandemic delayed their release, they had more time to be worked on. Unlike the latest films which seem impacted artistically by the pandemic. Additionally wish definitely has some signs of crunch with the awkward songs and off cheap looking animation, it's unfinished! Delay the next film!

[@GuineaPig361]

You're in luck! The 2024 film appears to have been delayed to March 2025 due to the strikes.

[@mecahhannah]

I loved some of the movies that were considered flops especially treasure planet and Atlantis

[@thegreenthunder5416]

I think it’s boils down to 3 things: 1. Disney is a mega conglomerate…not just made up of animators, directors, and executives, but also investors, stockholders, and businesses that expect high returns for the lowest cost possible. Disney has more money than they know what to do with, but they have to turn that money into MORE money as fast as possible. When the money stops flowing, so do the investors. Right now they are in panic mode and throwing as many projects as possible at the wall hoping it will stick since investors are not too happy rn 2. Disney is too safe. The best money is safe money, and safe money is in reliable brands they can create sequels for…your Pixar sequels, live action remakes, Star Wars fans, etc. But the safer Disney plays it close to the chest the worse the movies generally perform and are not enticing for people to watch 3. Disney is just TOO BIG now. Disney owns EVERYTHING. They can’t micromanage it all, so quality control is lacking recently. Take Star Wars, for instance. Kathleen Kennedy is the president of Lucasfilm rn, and SW is currently going down the drain. This is something Kennedy would deny, but clearly everyone is not happy. They have 6-7 projects in the making IN CONJUNCTION with 6-7 projects in the MCU. These two studios, while having separate teams and presidents, are both owned by Disney, who also manages presidents of other companies with their own projects. Put simply, anything that gets as big as Disney is bound to collapse in on itself sooner or later

[@Junoisverysleepy]

The boogie man behind the downfall of Disney is Disney+ they shot themselves with that one

[@dragonslayerxd907]

did my man just say meet the robinsons was bottom of the barrel forgotten? love that movie. watch it every couple of years

[@JonSmith-hk1bq]

Well, it's not inaccurate to day it's been forgotten at least.

[@ultimatedisneycruiselinefa5112]

Yeah, Meet the Robinsons is awesome! My favorite villain, Bowler Hat Guy, is in it!

[@NAVEMAN3]

They were in a slump before from the time of Disney's death up until Little Mermaid for a movie boom and that took 20 years, so if history is repeating itself it'll take another 20 years for another movie boom.

[@mintyaquagreen1675]

Well well well, looks who's crawling back to the Disney is loosing their magic touch movement again.

[@nuraolblast1721]

I loved Strange World 😢 I loved the worldbuilding especialy 😢 Concerning the characters i can't say anything i was hypnotised by the little screentime of the gay couple The story, it was cute to me

[@CateDaugherty]

6:19 The number one reason why the Precure are my role models instead of the Disney Princesses my examples are Futari Wa Precure/Max Heart, Yes Precure 5/Gogo, Fresh Precure. Heartcatch Precure, Smile Precure, and Hugtto Precure these for me are the best seasons of Precure in terms of Toy sales and Storytelling and Story interests.

[@Aqualz]

Disney can do sci fi - treasure planet and lilo & stitch are incredible

[@robertkenny1201]

Disney deserves this for getting Spectacular Spider-Man cancelled.

[@gaf407]

0:42 sleeping beauty actually tanked at the box office

[@GuineaPig361]

It also had the same inconsistent style issue as Wish.

[@ThePrincessCH]

​@@GuineaPig361I think "Sleeping Beauty's" aesthetic works better than "Wish."

[@jemandd1123]

okay random but i just realized how great encanto was, its easily in the top 3 disney movies for me

[@Fusilier7]

To me at least, I believe Disney is trying too hard to appeal to everyone, on one side, is the emo, brooding crowd who wants to explore dark and serious topics, on the other side, is the general audience, who just wants to be entertained, escape reality for a moment, the result - neither one was pleased by what they got. Modern Disney films are a hodgepodge of half-flushed out ideas, duct taped together for the broadest appeal, but never having enough material to stand on, in short, Disney wants to be loved by all, but instead is loathed by so many. Moreover, Disney's own arrogance is coming back to haunt it, they have gotten to big to care, the attitude of the studio execs is one of artistic contempt, they seem to believe that as long as it has the Disney name on it, the film will be an automatic success, in addition, the studio is banking on releasing mass legacy content, that have a proven track record of returns, thinking this is all they need, effort can be sacrificed just as long as Disney content checks off popular bullet-points, in essence, Disney is now the most expensive content farm, the sort of detritus that had plagued KZbin as of late, but since Disney is a corporation, the bigger they are, the harder they fall.

[@Thefoxthatbecameawolf]

Somenthing that I would ñike to pount out about this dark era of Disney is that they are not only failing financially but also creatively. I previous dark eras they might not have been super successful but at least they had some GREATA films like treasure planet and brother bear. But now movies are just bad, extremely bad and bland

[@iramgulshamshadvlog]

Hey have you seen scooby doo mystery incorporated

[@godzilla657]

Looking at their catalog currently their only original film is Elio. I actually have some hopes for this one since it is being directed by Adrian Molina the writter and co director of Coco. Disney next animated movies are gonna be Toy Story 5, Zootopia 5 and Frozen 4-5. Which kind of makes sad that we might not see originals films from them for a while. Something interesting there is suppose to come another animated film from them on Nov 2024 but since there hasn't been any announcement maybe they meant when Bob said are gonna be more careful with the development of their movies. Perhaps they should use that spot for Elio.

[@nevaehhamilton3493]

Elio's been delayed to 2025 due to the writers and actors strikes.

[@godzilla657]

@nevaehhamilton3493 i know just saying I would like it if they managed to release it this year if disney isn't gonna release the movie they scheduled for Nov. 2024.

[@nevaehhamilton3493]

@@godzilla657 unfortunately, that's not for you to decide. You have no power

[@kelleyceccato7025]

It's important to note that even during Disney's "dark eras," a gem would sometimes emerge. The 2000s may have seen the release of the terrible Chicken Little and Home on the Range, but it also gave us Lilo and Stitch, a solid film by any standards. That film was a success, if I remember rightly. It also included SF elements, so it offers proof that Disney CAN handle SF if the writing is decent (although many advocates for the film, myself included, prefer the earthbound aspects of the story, the Lilo/Nani side of things).

[@mymiserablesister5378]

I’ve completely lost interest in Disney at this point. I think they failed to grow up with their audience while also maintaining their child audience (Frozen 2 is a perfect example of this). I think their live action nostalgia/reimagination era really took them for a loop “fixing” movies that werent broken to begin with, and they’ve let real world politics dictate their creativity too much, and somehow being tone deaf to them at the same time. Just so many issues with their strategy right now and their CEO doesnt seem to hear what audiences actually want. Disney’s just not being innovative rn and other studios are stepping up much more

[@bridgetmistryable]

Disney needs to stop making animated films with a $200 million budget because the reason why Lightyear bombed because of it's budget and also Disney needs to make animated films with a lower budget like DreamWorks, Illumination, and Sony Pictures Animation is doing right now the reason why Sing 2, The Bad Guys, Minions: The Rise of Gru, Puss In Boots: The Last Wish, The Super Mario Bros. Movie, and Spiderman: Across the Spiderverse Part 1 we're big hits is because they have a lower budgets $200 million is just too much stop Disney do what Illumination, DreamWorks, and Sony are doing now Plus people should blame Bob Chapek for what he did to the Disney now Iger's career is ruined all because of Chapek people should hate on him not Iger he is the reason why Eternals, Lightyear, Strange World, Ant Man & The Wasp Quantumania, Secret Invasion, Indiana Jones & The Dial of Destiny, Haunted Mansion, The Marvels, and Wish failed at the box office and also The Star Wars Hotel and most of the rides not working like Indiana Jones Adventure at Disneyland the snake was not working sure even though Iger announced those movies when he was still Ceo but it was Chapek who changed it to make the films bomb and terrible and also he wouldnt let Kevin Feige have Creative control over Marvel now Feige does when Iger came back now Bob Chapek is regarded as the worst Disney CEO in History now I really feel Bad for Iger because now even though he back the damage was done and Chapek ruined the company because of that

[@poppie267]

Their back like their where in the 70s 80s and post 90s. Too bad i really did like their movies (Exept Frozen) From the 2010s. But you know Disney they will bounch back eventually.

[@SomePkmnlovingdude]

No they won't, not this time.

[@owl9130]

And thats EXCLUDING Marvel, which Disney has absolutely been f*cking up. Disney kills everything it touches now

[@5Geass]

Not you showing The Black Cauldron when mentioning flops. ;o; I mean I know it did actually flop but that's one of my FAVORITE movies--

[@Violet_Plum_Gamings]

The fact that I enjoyed Raya and strange world is really saying something.

[@cupcakKe_express]

Apparently the November 2024 movie is getting delayed to march 2025

[@DanielGarcia-mr3fl]

Dude, Disney has succeeded with science fiction. They literally did Tron. Also, the Rocketeer literally grossed 46 million at the box office

[@DSzaks]

I say all 4 of the recent films aren't up to snuff. Encanto was passable the others were all well below par, with Wish is a new low bar on almost every level. Especially for their 100th Anniversary. Even Frozen 2, was less than stellar imho. But it did make lot's of money, so I guess that excuses it. I hope they can turn it around w/ Zootopia 2, but I'm not holding my breath anymore. And Disney's banking on the Frozen franchise to save them is almost them admitting the well of creativity at Disney has run completely dry.

[@TADCandDisneyFan]

I think Disney should start giving their princesses love interests sometime, maybe that could be the key to saving Disney.

[@emerald_sustrai2002]

DreamWorks are now the big dog now in my opinion

[@supertomdeluxe6676]

Either Disney does something completely new that blows people's minds like how the first Spider Verse movie did or they'll be left in the dust by everyone

[@denniscummings129]

It could be argued that Covid is responsible for the failure of the last two films, at least to some extent. While Covid isn’t keeping people out of the cinema, it has changed the way we view entertainment. How often does the average person go to the movies now versus how often they went before Covid?we are used to seeing things on streaming. So many movies have underperformed since Covid. The latest mission impossible movie took in about half of what I would have expected. Marvel movies don’t do the same business they used to with the exception of Spider-Man no way home, I do not believe a marvel movie has made $1 billion since endgame. it’s just the new normal. I hope cinema returns to the level it was in 2019.

[@ashleyandanime4815]

Well the ceo did recently say that they need to change something. The literal ceo said that. Another person said they were focusing too much on the messages and not giving enough effort to the actual stories. But for me the thing is their recent movies(haven’t seen wish) I couldn’t even tell was the messages were supposed to be. Like yeah it was enjoyable enough, but it didn’t convey the message or tell the story. Im hoping with their ah… recognition of problems they’re gonna get better.

[@AdLockhorst-bf8pz]

All Disney animated movies kinda look the same; pastel colours, lifeless backgrounds with the action concentrated in the foreground and the middle of the screen ... and little to no personality in the looks of the characters. And why can't they do halfway decent hair? With videogames there are limits to what you can do, but an animated movie could and should do much better.

[@duckmandrake1859]

3:40 "for some reason they were added to D+ at no extra cost" Raya was part of Disney+'s Premier Access program for 3 months before being available for regular subscribers. It cost $30 on top of the subscription. By the time Encanto was released, Disney had stopped with Premier Access altogether. Encanto's D+ release was on Christmas Eve, clearly so they could have a big movie to push their multi-billion dollar streaming service over the holiday season. As much as I agree with most of what you said, I don't think Disney mishandled Raya and Encanto over this period. Pixar were dealt a far worse hand by Disney over this same period, with multiple films released straight to D+ without seeing theatres nor Premier Access - yet Elemental proved they are still a box office draw.

[@TheLegendaryMovieCritic]

Whenever Disney has a very rough era they always have a major animated renaissance in the future!

[@azurai3934]

To be perfectly honest and this is a bit of a hot take, they’ve been in a slump since the release of Frozen in my opinion. Tangled might have started the trend but Frozen popularised it. Disney seems to have been trying endlessly to recreate that Frozen success rather than try something different or develop it even further and only arguably did so with Encanto.

[@cartoonsownmysoul]

i think its what disney deserve they've gotten to big for their britches. though if i was in charge i'd put Alen Menken in charge of music again.. or is he alive??? i can't remembmer / and Treasure planet also deserved better/

[@lihoffman8157]

It started since 2022

[@leonorakristinerozalinamll9473]

Disney doesn't know what a true Disney fan wants. Some Disney movies has gone too far like Toy Story and they are only getting more and more bad.