SMITE: What Went Wrong With Baba Yaga?

[@danielfraiz74]

When you release a god that makes the players think: "actually if I dont ult I´ll be able to kill". That´s when you know something went wrong

[@Silent-ig9kb]

Daniel Fraiz lmao

[@emmahas2moms8038]

@@Silent-ig9kb tfw you ult and it won't let you throw the god damn fireballs.... smh

[@szunaloneheart3148]

You can cancle her ult actually with right clicking, if i am not wrong. So.. just be smart :)

[@tylorlagier7596]

Szuna Loneheart yeah same, I use it to get a quick shield and a knockback in scary situations and then cancel it and use my 3 to get away

[@insanemoto4259]

Yet Persophone one of the recent gods can ult and kill you across the map... while she's dead.

[@JollyConcrete]

Didnt hirez agree rng was bad when they removed crit passives on various characters?

[@guilhermeoliveira2048]

what's rng?

[@markhohenbrink5230]

@@guilhermeoliveira2048 random number generation

[@alanimations]

Guilherme Oliveira random number generation. A good example in smite is crit chance, where you have a chance to get 5 crits in a row or none at all for 10 basic attacks. It’s basically luck/randomness, which isn’t exactly good when you want to play a skill-based game.

[@danielfraiz74]

Thats something i also thought. They remove randomness to release a random god

[@Vitas7thElement]

Hirez also reverted a price reduction on the oracle chalice (ward) from 300 back to 400 some time ago, stating the game felt "too safe". Now we all get free wards from the start.

[@Joe-hi1zw]

I recently encountered a bug I wasn't aware of that became my new favourite; I'd ult and nothing would happen (same old same old) but then after aimlessly walking around in the cabin, I could fire the bolts FROM the cabin while controlling Baba Yaga. Definitely made for some pretty unpredictable kills.

[@szunaloneheart3148]

Now... THAT is kinda interesting xD

[@rockerman403]

I had something similar happen in the same game where my two bugged! I couldn't use my two, but I could fire all my bolts when in cabin, then when I popped out I got to fire a second round as baba yaga! It was a funny way to make up for the bugged two

[@PedroGonzalez-mg9yz]

I had that bug happen to me 2 games in a row

[@jordanvs9991]

Joe same for me until i ulted and had to hold down the fire button then spam the fire button. same thing with her potions, her potions kept switching from red blue then white but wouldn’t fire and i couldn’t even consume the potions

[@maltysaltyy]

You know whats fun? Coming out of a bugged ult and not being able to fire any abilities and only being able to use basic attacks :)

[@MrBuns-yi2hk]

I think the should just remove the oval from the one, and instead of random effects it should be like this. It should automatically cycle through the protection buff and move speed buff, and hitting an enemy corrupts the buff making it a silence or slow respectively.

[@arr0w769]

That would be unclear because of the visuals

[@DukeSloth]

Interesting, but possibly too strong. Not sure. I definitely like it better than the current iteration though.

[@krystopherstrickland8090]

I just think the shapes shouldn't be that random the fact that I can play a whole game and get the Y once and the L more than 75% of the time and the oval is trash lol

[@jradjj2988]

Lispy Queer the oval is actually very good depending on which effect it gives if it’s an oval silence then it is actually really good because you can pretty much trap someone if there in the middle and if you throw it in a team fight it covers allot of area and silence creates allot of disruption. The oval slow is also alright.

[@Zefo_No]

I like the oval the most, but it feels really bad right now because it doesn't hit exactly in front of Baba, as opposed to every other shape of the 1. Making it very easy to miss. Also, 15% on return hit is terrible, for how slow the Oval is, it should be rewarding if you manage to hit something more than once with it. I like the randomness aspect, at least in the 1, the problem to me is more than the effects aren't impactful at all. Even the silence field is just a small area with no teamfight usage. Maybe if they lasted 1 more second. And ofc, as Duke said, the passive meter is not visible in a teamfight. They can double the size of the "next shape" icon, even over the top of the house icon.

[@kinggilgamesh5804]

The only thing I like about Baba Yaga is her design.

[@blainefiasco8225]

I hate that too

[@jeannecaelum5167]

When Gilgamesh says so, its truth! na jk she really looks alright, her house is the coolest. but well overall eh

[@Nobody-uo2eo]

Agreed

[@f.b.igigachad3762]

It wouldve been better if the house just fights.

[@fdelper]

Yeah as I said in another post, this character seems to be designed to be only fun to play, in a game where players goes straight for the safer pick to get easy wins. You play her in pursue of having a fun game and get destroyed by tryharders in casual. How great fun.

[@InconSSG]

My baba yaga support will haunt you Duke. I am coming for you!

[@mr.spybot7113]

"I don't like looking at the symbols." chronos mains "haha yeah"

[@chikipichi5280]

When a god does less dmg than another mage going full tank as a glass cannon you know there is a problem

[@scholl5360]

griffith did nothing wrong his meaning is you can have full attack items and still do no damage. I did book of Thoth, purple boots, divine ruin, warlocks, Charon coin, and soul reaver and was still hitting em with a wet pool noodle

[@scholl5360]

Where as zhong can go for only 2 damage items and still hit harder

[@nairobi8056]

griffith did nothing wrong he’s saying that some gods you can put only defense items on and they will still hurt more then a god that goes a full damage build.

[@Castillos147]

FUN FACT: Hisoka's bungee gum has properties of both rubber and gum

[@zetokaiba5867]

You have a sheep pfp therefore anything you say is invalid.

[@rozkie]

A fellow HxH fan I see

[@varste4473]

@@rozkie first comes rock

[@kiorashiro6108]

“I don’t like having to look at the symbol between every team fight” seriously that the LEAST frustrating part of her if anything. You can use your peripheral vision to see or just quickly glance at it before you cast or before a fight, doesn’t take much effort at all to remember what symbol you have after quickly glancing

[@lucascatao483]

Agreed! Also I doubt it's worth waiting for the perfect potion that deals the most optimized dmg+slow and stuff. Just pop the potion on the anubis twice and watch his health fall by half. That's the fun of it lol

[@iamnumber4ization]

Duke sloth like a little girl lol yoga is bad but really that’s a problem for him 😂😂

[@chickenwingz0w069]

*laughs in Chronos*

[@xVlProdigylVx]

I bet Hi-Rez really likes the fact that the 1 can Spell out “Y-O-L-O”. And that makes me think they don’t want to remove the “O”. Sad really

[@DefineReality]

They could just make the O rectangular (narrow), so that way it would at least be more precise to aim. []

[@xVlProdigylVx]

Define Reality yeah or make the “O” narrow like “0” and instead of it being a line drawn in a circle shape. It could feel the area of and “0” similar to Agni’s 2 to make the ability cover a zone to make some of the buffs more effectively acquired.

[@DefineReality]

@@xVlProdigylVx I don't think it'd be implemented that way due to the fact that it's ground AOE would differ too much from the rest of her shapes. And having a wide ground AOE might make that shape outright better than the rest overall, instead of having a situational niche like the rest do.

[@bigfudge2031]

that's the problem with her, you don't only live once you live on 15 different occasions throughout the game, because you died the other 14.

[@herrschmidt5477]

omg that sounds 100% like a Low-Rez move. I bet you're right :D

[@wantedwarlock2039]

I wish they would remove her oval targeted and replace her protections and movement buffs with a disarm. That alone would make her significantly better.

[@webuser-webloser]

i think they should combine effects in two versions, it's can be like the field gives movement speed AND protections at the same time or slows enemies AND silences. Or maybe combining the buff and debuff into ones, like speed/slow and def/silence, idk

[@purplediamond4319]

I like the oval one but I agree that the disarm would help but the speed buff has helped me alot but the protections don't feel like they do anything.

[@Joe-hi1zw]

I would argue that the speed buff often works similar to a he bo scroll (UNLESS IT'S THE FKN OVAL) but I agree that the protection buff is really kinda pointless cause no one's ever fighting within that tiny strip

[@Zefo_No]

@@webuser-webloser I was thinking that too but it might just be too strong. You'd have the He Bo 2 in a damaging ability (for slow+speed), or an actual Terra ult in an area.

[@omnis9924]

A disarm would be amazing on her, particularly if she’s getting dove on by an AA assassin

[@McMonkeyMan412]

Love how your ult didn't work right as the video ended lol. Nice

[@Recon1107]

Thank you for talking about this! I thought I was alone in thinking she wasn’t the normal OP god release

[@Zefo_No]

I mean, apart from Incon who praises her support, every streamer i follow has said she's the worst god release in a long time and basically worthless in conquest.

[@Recon1107]

Zefo No I only watch duke and a few other creators. My friends are the main supporters who praise her arena ability. Guess I need new friends

[@mercurialfunk]

I wish there was a way to remap her potion storing. It feels so bad on console and I've died because of it. Also is there a bug on her escape? I jumped into tower one game and I'm almost positive I wasn't facing the tower line.

[@DukeSloth]

Haven't heard of that bug before, but that might be related to lag, maybe

[@ThePikachu245]

So. Idk if its just cuz I'm just better on console but I've played her both on console and pc I've never had any problem with her potions on console in fact I'm like a billion times better with her on console then I am on pc. I also have never encountered the ultimate bug either yet. Perhaps the RNG gods just love me idk

[@MrMishaPanda]

Theres a bug with her 3 but its rare you get stuck in your cauldron and cant yae abilities all game

[@sixsam154]

@@MrMishaPanda that not a bug with the 2 that a bug do to lag

[@MrMishaPanda]

@@sixsam154 thats not lag... lag doesnt make you a cauldron the whole game

[@vanquishernemesis7897]

Did I just see Fenrir trying to bite Argus with his ult.... 7:05

[@F0eH4mm3R]

Big jaws

[@marisirosaurus8987]

He's biting more than he can chew

[@Nick-nb2oz]

honestly, after playing her so much these days (I have played around 35 games or more perhaps with her) I became pretty good with her and the randomness doesn't bother me anymore, like, you get used to it, and if they fix the bugs with her AND make everything about the ult faster she would be in a good position in my opinion, also the ult may require a bigger shield cuz holy shit you can get bursted just in the ult casting time

[@crusaderofthenile4829]

Nick I like her two but your right you ult and the entire Enemy team it like giant house fire all your ults at once and I’m like oh no

[@originalpurger5615]

I completely agree I love her she's not broken but the ult needs some work honestly I'm a console player and I really don't understand why people don't like the oval and the twos hard to understand and learn at first but as you play more you realize what it to use it for

[@originalpurger5615]

To go farther the oval isn't great it's not hard to hit you just have to put the time in to get use to it's timing I'm guessing a lot of the comments are people who have only played 1 or 2 games with her and didn't like it

[@originalpurger5615]

And also I understand this video is mainly about playing on pc but on a controller her controls are very comfortable for me

[@rafaelsama7930]

Maybe make all her 1's projectiles a bit thicker and i agree the ults projectiles and fire rate need to be sped up but instead of a bigger shield maybe some mitigation aswell, on top of the current shield she already has

[@joshivey5818]

I love how he bashes how bad the god is, then proceeds to show a video of him destroying with the god xD.

[@mmoogl3547]

I was absolutely sure he was playing against bots, then I noticed the names, and now I'm confused. 7:05

[@phoenixblaze5491]

I disagree with the passive meter complaint, its really not that out of the way and is not hard too look at in fights. You can also prime your 1 to see what it will be based off the shape/color it shows if you really dont want to take 100 ms to look

[@TheSaNdMaN5000]

Sure but some people play on instacast, so they can't preview the ability and it would be awkward to ask them to change that. Other than that I completely agree that it's not hard at all to look at her passive and everyone should be able to do so quickly

[@tylorlagier7596]

Idk why but I feel like I’m the only one that loves the randomness. Yeah sometimes it sucks because you could’ve used another shape. But for the most part the potion does around the same amount of damage unless you get 5 eyes. So I just use them the same for the most part and the effects are an added bonus

[@bardssinisterstories2607]

I completely agree. The 1 isn’t a big deal for me either. She’s fun and I’m a casual player, I’m satisfied with Baba Yaga. Plus the chaos of the RNG thematically makes a lot of sense, like her throwing together random stuff she has on hand to make a deadly potion. I like it.

[@AMoralMan]

I agree totally. Here's a fix: keep the oval. Have two projectiles fire from left and right. Have them converge in the middle for double damage or some such. That way there is a reason for the 1 in 4 randomness of it.

[@DefineReality]

I agree. A narrow rectangle with distinct angles (like her other shapes). Have the 2 projectiles converge out in the middle. []

[@totalcoward]

Idea for her 1: replace the O with a line that travels as far as the initial line of the L and Y, but then doubles back and travels the same distance past the initial casting point in the opposite direction. Also, replace the protection and movement speed buffs with a cripple and knock back/knock up. That way you won’t know how she is going to CC, but you know that she always will apply CC in an area. Idea for her 2: Just. Give. It. Charges. Making her use a consumable slot to store a potion gives her an immediate disadvantage over other gods who can use that slot for potions or wards, which she definitely doesn’t need a built in disadvantage to a skill whose effect is already decided by random chance. Idea for her 4: have the flames linger for a longer amount of time. This would increase both her damage potential and her zoning ability. Also, keep the amount of times she can throw her Witchfire at 4, but remove the delay between attacks and reduce the firing time. When she runs out of Witchfire to throw, have her leave the hut and lose the remaining shield and CC immunity. This way it leads to complex decision making. Do you want damage or do you want to escape? Do you save that last Witchfire bolt and guarantee your own safety, or do you think you can kill that ADC if you just land 1 more bolt on them?

[@Rynin2D]

I’m confused why the oval is so hard to people, you just fire it at a a different angle, you turn to the right a bit since it starts the actual projectile from the right and you can hit a lot of people in a team fight. I 1v4 a team late game in conquest and almost insta kill 2 of them with one hit of the oval

[@herrschmidt5477]

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[@asuchri]

Nice to see a bronze player every now and then

[@anthraxcrab2222]

Exactly, If you turn like 15° to like the left or the right it basically just becomes a slightly curved line, the oval is fine people.

[@LucasLima-sb6cp]

Her randomness in her 1 could be more like 72 transformations where aiming down or up could change the effect of the path at least.

[@jasonsummerfield4505]

I love this idea. The issue is it’s not really rng and hi Rez wants her to be more rng for some ungodly reason.

[@jffmcntire]

The oval should of had a line going through it that’s as long as the other line shapes

[@Scyclo]

this would be great on her, that or just remove the oval and replace it with a t. which there is code for because it happened to me in the PTR but only once. idk if it glitched and made a t instead of a y, but the t was great.

[@vv00ps70]

Something like Kali 2 (even if it isn't moveable) would be cool :)

[@DanCorvo420]

Yeah if it like went straight then diverged into two curves coming back or something similar that could be dope

[@jjwardyjj]

Everyone talks about how buggy and messed she is. But forgets the very simple point. This is the most complex god they have made. At a time when they all working from home and can't optimise. So I'd say for the time she came out pretty good

[@kingleyhobo5193]

To start I would say they need to speed up her animations (it takes a full second to whip out a potion from your pocket then another 2 for it to actual throw), give a small buff to her cabin healing (so she can play solo well), and not store her potions in a consumable slot (its awkward but also restricts item buying)

[@michaelmorgan2651]

Am I the only person who loves playing her. The only problem is the ult not firing all the time. She’s not soooo bad.

[@sanitynotincluded4837]

I want to talk about her 1 more: her 1 is a very good move during congested/cluttered fights and shines in the jungle and objective fights. I know it isnt exactly felt but it has helped out extremely and being able to make the ground you fight on change and not have it broadcast is kind of how I see they wanted it to turn out. The pathing of the ability is easy to remember since even at max cdr you have 6 seconds to look at your passive before you can fire it again. I feel her 1 is more based on how long you have played her, so you can say that it isnt really a problem but more of a learning curve. Her 2 is messy and her description of the 2 should be based on color as well since I cant tell which ingredient is what but that is also just a product of not playing her enough. Her ult needs a range buff. It feels like I should fire way farther than I can, and considering all she gets is a shield when she drops it on her and a knock up she cant even confirm a shot into, it needs some love or an added effect (maybe a built in slow or that the hut can still steal essence from nearby foes at an increased rate and it prioritizes healing?)

[@Jm96RoCk]

Also, speeding up on her ult shots animation would make her (along with the range imcrease u suggested) have a decently good ult

[@fgcmadara5020]

I go into ult and just get shredded my crit doesn’t feel good against hunters I litterally just don’t use it

[@Jdubya4040]

And here I am being an a-hole for telling my teammate in conquest that he’s not bad, the god is just a awful character

[@GodzillathekingKongbane]

I want bhima from bakasuras lore to be a playable character, the man who killed him

[@cheprii-1441]

All 5 of the pandavas are pretty cool tbh

[@Jm96RoCk]

Am I the only one who feels her damage is underwhelmingly low...?

[@nikolasmoes1547]

Compared to other mages you're absolutely right. She feels weak, and slow.

[@romdog1818]

Her damage is fine, but her abilities are slow. She can store a potion for free when not in lane to get 4 damage abilities.

[@arr0w769]

@@romdog1818 her damage is awful, her escape is her most damaging ability

[@alphal0newo1f28]

She does really well with a poke build, shes not meant for burst shes meant for long sustained fights. Think thoth but more annoying and more debuff based instead of damage. Try soul gem, soul reaver, and e-staff, works wonders on her but sell soul gem late.

[@muluzi405]

Her damage is bad for the god she is trying to be... if she is so slow and have a really weird rng skill cap, the player should be compensated with a decent dmg... im srr but that ult... i think its week

[@neontenebrae1918]

"What went wrong with Baba Yaga?" Everything. Literally everything, lmao.

[@sav9561]

My full damage build for Yaga ( once you get use to her and this is for arena) shoes of the magi , chronos pendant, spear of desolation (or divine ruin if against healers), doom orb, soul reaver, and rod of tahuti. This gives you a lot of damage and gives you the movement speed you need to hit abilities and chase people down more easily while in the ultimate. My conquest build is relatively the same but slightly different to adapt to situations. I run mages blessings cause she stacks it right away and btw the hut gains stacks while it’s running around the map so keep that in mind. So mages blessing, shoes of focus, chronos pendant, doom orb, rod of tahuti, and a mantle of discord, the. Sell mages blessing for the spear of desolation or divine ruin and eventually get rid of the cool down boots and go soul reaver if you want to. And for relics it’s up to you and with both these builds I do around 50k damage

[@user-ru7vo6xq7h]

Hate how long it takes her to get into her ult. Feels like forever, and combined with the slow projectile they have so much time to just walk away.

[@zeorph]

With the whole potion brewing ability (correct me if im wrong), isn't sol also like that? For one of sol's abilities, you have to click the ability button, then press the basic attack button to fire it.

[@juliancisneros386]

Yeah but its because its really more of a basic attack enhancer rather than an actual ability

[@herrschmidt5477]

you can simply press the ability twice i'm pretty sure

[@mikelarsen9491]

1. Remove the oval or change it to a 'D' and reverse 'D' shape. 2. Her random effect in the 1 feels useless. Either increase area of effect or for how long it stays. 3. If her health shield in ult scales on health/health from items, it would feel more benificial to go this route. And a bonus suggestion: Add a lifesteal ingrediens to the 2. Overall nerf damge a bit and this would make her a more supportive mage with buff/debuff areas on the ground. Or more viable in solo.

[@williamwallace090]

I completely disagree with potion on instant cast. I use instant cast for 99% of abilities in smite and I love the feel of the potion because of the swapping mechanic. I understand what you said but I just haven't had any bad experiences in that regard. The bugs however, are awful.

[@LaughableSynonyms]

Honestly, I love the oval, especially the silence oval. I find it easy to hit. People live to juke, not with an oval they dont.

[@faizfuad5706]

The area of effect (buff/debuff trail) on her 1 is hard to utilize, and easy to get out of. It does little impact on team fights..

[@DavidAndTheMagic]

My issue is with baba yaga is that because of her 3 is scaling the best it wants to be played like this:throw the 1and2 jump right on the enemy with her 3 and then knockult, but rightnow almost in every gamemode if you do that people just turn on you easier due to slow cast timing, ult is easily juked and there is a bigger target

[@bennytime2789]

If they speed up the animations and make the 1 and 2 work like Wukong's 3, I am sure Yaga would do better. Hope they learn from this and make sure the Abyss god turns out a good release.

[@bloodmage7173]

I think she's perfectly fine with the rng part of the mind games is in neither not knowing what will happen next as for her damage sure she's no he bo with practically three ults but she's not slapping out zero damage

[@MrSmilykid]

i agree like it just takes practice and iron out some bugs but i do want them to replace protection buff from 1

[@Scyclo]

@@MrSmilykid honestly the protection buff is fuck all useless. it gives you like NO buff. its so minor its not even worth it

[@jradjj2988]

I feel like one of the effects on her 1 should have been a damage over time I think they should remove the protection effect and add a damage over time effect if your in the area that maybe also adds a little protection debuff as well if there in the dot area.

[@Tate-yb9jf]

The ult should have a scaling shield based of health because 100 - 420 is basically a hunter auto, and that would really encourage that hybrid build style.

[@seefuud2839]

I think Low-Rez made Baba Yaga have those weird abilities just so she is unique, but it doesn't feel like it connects at all to what Baba Yaga is(Oval targeter???) compared to Persephone where her whole thing revolved around an undead garden so Persephone's kit makes a lot of sense.

[@Romeo-bk4my]

Honestly you're the only content creator i've seen complain about the potion storage being the same as the ability cast. I like it. It wasn't hard for me to grasp either. I think the only downside of the 2 is that sometimes I'll forget I have a potion stored already and try to store another one so i'm sitting there tapping two stuck in a "ready to launch this potion" stance.

[@austinrusty2253]

I got her Diamond this weekend but actually play her tank instead of a mage and I have had a way better time playing her and securing and helping my team

[@jackwinkles3221]

austin rusty22 yeah gauntlet and hide can be built up quick w warlock staff, and book of Thoth/another mana item. She’s good not great

[@mikeheckman7882]

Make her three knock people up and make it so you can blink while channeling it. Just speed up the animation and cast time of her two I think would be good enough. To throw two potions faster and finally make her ult faster with lessening the time between the fireballs.

[@acoolguy3299]

Something that I don’t see a lot of people talk about but I also think her 1 should do tick damage. I think it would give her just a small boost to it be often I just don’t care and walk through it bc the silence and slow are so rare

[@dareh4678]

I completely agree, especially the comment on her being slow. It takes 10 years for her 2 to fire. It forces me to think about where they’re moving which isn’t bad but in a team fight I need everything to flow. And the spamming the double click I just try to store a potion to force the cooldown and take it back out.

[@DaetB]

1st spell 3 effects slow, dot, silence all paths start with a line then curves (oval makes a split then comes back) 2nd spell the spell conjures a potion that you can save or throw, if it hits an ally applies buffs (here are the protections and move speed buffs and even a heal or damage amp, dragon scale protections, eye movespeed, tooth buff for dmg) if it hits an enemy it does the actual effect, and you can throw potions even when silenced. 3rd spell this stays the same could add something for your team Ult uses your actual passive charge to apply a heal and protections to your team in aoe added to the actual effect, And she becomes a support that has the ability to scale into a heavy damage caster, we don't have that kind of support in smite all support are tanky and that is fine but other mobas have supports that can become a secondary mage nuke while not being super tanky

[@DeathXtremeHaseo]

8/10 times I kept getting the damn Oval shape in Clash, that's when I decided she wasn't worth using plus her ult is slow which usually ends up killing me. She needs a rework asap, get rid of the damn Oval and make her ult faster overall.

[@Scyclo]

i feel like she needs to have a slight speed boost in the hut. oval i like personally but i know all the problems it has. her ult projectile speed needs to be faster too, i like the heavier skill cap on her. She needs to lose the protection buff too, its so minor its pointless to even have it

[@crusaderofthenile4829]

I like the oval for minions

[@edwarddavis7858]

Honestly, Hirez needs to decide if she is meant to deal damage or dish out CC. If she's supposed to be damage, replace the 1's affects with stuff like a DoT, keeping the silence and the armor reduction. Just those three. If more CC based, the affects should last AT LEAST three times as long. That would be a great zoning tool. That 2 is odd, and can EASILY not take up a consumable slot, tbh. It should have something like you can choose to throw a potion, or drink it, healing her or something random, if you NEED it to be random still. That ult... it's slow, clunky, weak, and in general feels like a weaker version of Freya's ult where you can still get his and die in.

[@Gelunix]

I never thought about console and the 2 wtf that's insanely clunky. Imagine having to press left trigger and another button to use an ability oof

[@reycactus1]

I had problems with that at the beginning not gonna lie

[@baconeater4133]

I have to hold the left stick clicked down and then press A or X, depending on the slot. I hate it

[@speedforcex]

do you know how towers in smite work for power and pen the numbers seems weird to me

[@jtiller1223]

When I saw this god I was like she is a troll god. Like hey I feel like pissing off my team and losing.

[@DefineReality]

Yep.

[@slaaneshshewhothirst9136]

Joseph Tiller especially when people insta lock her and play her either Support or jungle.

[@cogbeo8673]

I agree on the point of the bugs. I've spent an entire match locked on my 2, with the potion ready to fire but not going off, and countless times I've ulted and not been able to fire. Rest assured, she is pretty much what players expected and were hyped to: a god with a "chaotic, uncertain" playstile (which, in a game, means rng). Her 1 is good, and everyone was excited with how unpredictable it was for the enemy, not even complaining about shapes. Passive meter-wise, there are a good number of gods that require you to keep an eye on it at all times to play soundly, so whatever. Her 2 on the other hand, does feel clunky. Maybe it could still work with rapid fire, showing the ingredients then releasing/canceling, but I don't see another way of making it faster besides changing the ability. And about builds, there really isn't an optimal build for her, but she is a good bruiser, like many people hyped her to be. What I'm saying is: we all saw how she was way back on the reveal, but the hype blinded people and now people are realising she is shitty.

[@babyyoda2745]

I’m so glad you’re showing arena gameplay since arena is honestly my favorite game mode because of how chaotic it can get, you never know when something crazy will happen. It’s fun and ya don’t got to worry about a damn thing , just throw together an expensive build n have fun!!

[@garrettf1412]

I'm just spit balling here. But 1: fix the technical issues of course. That being said I feel like there could be 1 of 2 ways to fix her passed the technical problems. A) increase her scaling, with her passive helping with stacking I feel itd synchronize well. OR B) increase the utility bonuses of the 1, maybe make in linger for a longer time so she becomes more of a supportive mid laner. Shes just diluted in both situations and I personally would like to see option B for her. Make her usefull to support the team rather than another form of high burst.

[@nutbardelete]

I feel like because of the bugs you're nitpicking every little thing, you can very easily look at the brightly colored passive meter telling you what your shape is. Chronos has been in the game forever and nobody complains about having to look at his passive to activate his 2, its just another thing to make the god more skillful (not that chronos is super difficult, but his 2 does have a learning curve) I think you just don't want to learn to use these abilities effectively, I haven't played much Baba Yaga but from what I've seen, yes her two is clunky, and she is buggy, and she needs work, but you're being critical to things that don't need it. I agree with what you are saying about how she doesn't fit into a role in conquest very well because she really doesn't. I think that she just isn't the type of god right now that is to be played fast, I've seen slower gameplays where they poke and then go for frags and it works great.

[@arr0w769]

Her big problem is that she is a burst mage with no burst with a non existant early and midgame

[@DukeSloth]

Look, just because for you personally it's fine, it doesn't mean it's fine for everyone. I don't particularly enjoy Chronos' passive either, but it's still a hell of a lot easier to see what's going on there are a quickly glance considering his whole passive is a massive clock. For Baba, the majority of space is taken up by the visuals of the hut which ironically don't fulfill any important function. Some aspects of some characters will always bother some people more than others and sometimes it can't be changed. In this case however it could be easily improved already by just changing the visuals of the passive so the ability shape takes up the majority of the space.

[@clintcook8691]

I haven’t really had any issues with her. I like her think you just have to build her right just like every other god

[@brycelacy3545]

Thank you! Everyone is whining about how her ult and the oval on her 1 but you just need to be skilful with her and predict your opponents movement. In the majority of my joust games I’ve done well with her. My build is Warlock Staff, Cooldown Boots (replaced by rod late game), Spear of Desolation/Divine, Soul Gem, Soul Reaver (or something useful for countering) and Staff of Myrdin to use your 1 twice or 2 three times.

[@sir.cornyneck3960]

12:20 I wasnt fully paying attention, so when he changed from one game to another I though Baba bugged and lost an entire item for no reason.

[@brentescobar7523]

*shrugs* if you don't pay attention to the passives of the fire and just use your outline of the spells before she calls it. Shes actually really good. Sure... The special isn't meant to kill but to clear from far range you can see it benefitting you greatly. Warlock staff is still really good with Charon's coin and thoths book. Shes viable but you just really need to not care about her RNG. And if its the potions. Just store 1 and then yeet the other one after cooldown. So you have two potions to abuse with various effects. Oval does complicated but its still has an okay chance to hit especially those around the oval.

[@sav9561]

Besides the bugs I honestly think she’s a good god damage wise like after I got use to her delays and how fast her projectiles move with the 2 I just built movement speed damage to utilize her hit and get away with it and it’s good with the ult since you have doom orb active while you ult ppl so u can catch up to ppl and hit the ult unless they try to whiff it but other than that she’s pretty balanced it just her bugs. The one is fine but yeah the oval is pretty weird but with the oval I just try to get edge for damage but in my opinion if I’m in a fight I like the silence oval. Her 3 is fine since she’s a mage who’s suppose to die but I find it funny I can use it to escape a Cerberus ult but not use it to get away from certain things like Scylla can do but I get that since u get mitigation. Btw I’m a console player

[@asuchri]

Theres no reason to play her because theres other mages that are just better. Maybe if you wanna just play her for the laughs, but honestly shes like a C tier mage.

[@theprinceofgaming1545]

I want to make a quick note on the warlocks thing, it's not warlocks ramps up to slow, it's that it's just a worse version of e-staff since they changed it. I don't know how they made the item worse but they did.

[@sullyschwartz2365]

Agree with this so much. Even when I’m playing her well, I feel like I barely use her abilities for the buffs bc I rarely have what I need in a fight (except for potions but that’s because you can hold a good one to save for a situation.) Her kit’s like a guardian/mage hybrid and the rng honestly just makes it worse.

[@ginger_queen8108]

I feel like a good way to fix the oval design is to have the secondary effect be active in the center as like a field. Like it doesn't do damage, but the center can be like a silence field, or a speed field. Something like that. Best of both worlds I guess (although I haven't played Baba Yaga so I don't know how bad her oval is in practice).

[@vogunBurgundy]

Possible Ideas, for fixing Baba Yaga: Make her Hut only run when an enemy comes within 25-30 Units, as opposed to 35 (I think it is currently), and restore 1% of max. HP per 4 Essence (as opposed to 0.8%- which in addition to being weak is just a weird number tbh) Replace the Oval on her 1 with something else- an Arrow, maybe, that splits into two points that come diagonally backwards towards the point from where it was fired? Also, reduce the 1's Cooldown and Damage, to make it's Utility and Unpredictability shine more often as opposed to just being "line damage, but weird". Obviously, make the 2 less buggy to use as a Consumable- maybe also buff the base damage by 5 across all Ranks? Increase the projectile speed slightly? The 3 feels weird, at the moment, for lack of a better term, in how its Speed functions- I'd rather see something like Geb's Roll, where it starts at the standard speed, and accelerates over time as its cast. Which'd also give enemies on the other end a bit more time to react, as well, I would imagine? And finally, have the Hut itself, in her Ult, maybe emit a continual "pulse" of damage, with like just 5% Scaling even would be fine- just something to dissuade people from just jumping on her mid-Ultimate, I'd imagine. Possibly also improve the projectile speed a tad on the witchfire? I heard that maybe giving her three different potions with different effects to toss might do the trick, but at that point I imagine she'd just feel like Raijin...

[@EricSp33r]

I agree with lots of this. I think her 3 is terrible though. It’s so easy to cancel making her easily able to be picked off with no escape.

[@demon48180]

i had a glitch where i couldnt use her 2nd ability. it would just switch back and forth between each potion and not let me use it. so entire game i couldnt use them.

[@maestrususano6893]

I was kinda toying with this idea in my head, but it could be a little fun that maybe her potion could heal yourself and teammates while doing damage and anti heal to enemies or something to that extent since some people are looking at Baba for the support/solo role. She's tanky enough, it'd be kinda cool to make a heal for her in place of probably the slow

[@auenboy4571]

I think for her to be good she needs 3 things. 1st her ult needs to be rework in the way it works. Either make her shoot faster and pump out dmg faster OR increase her dmg and speed but she gets less shots. 2nd she should get a secondary part to her passive or when she maxxes out her 2. Whenever she slays an enemy god she gets a special potion. The potion is rng. Itll be either yellow ( when it lands it summons a 2s circle that gives cc immunity). A purple potion (silence and root). 3rd is actually all her normal potions but maxxed out on 1 of the materials so full red/green/blue. 3rd would be her 1. Buff oval. It shoots fire both ends so its her highest Dps but a skill shot. This gives it more consistency as well.

[@kimberg2539]

Make her effects on 1 linger and be procced for some sec after leaving area, trade O shape to a T or a X shape. Also revamp the slow effect on 1 to do dmg dots aswell. (See it as a clever setup with her ult.) Like make the dot on ice 1 deal around same scaling damage as Merlins 1. Also you could have her silence buff hit a lil more dmg and have the protectionbuff last a bit longer to be actually usefull, but make prot hit 1 do less damage.

[@carl16059]

idea for her alt what if it was like Raijin's. Baba gets in to her hut and her ability keys tern in to different effects of her aoe. 1) could be damage pool 2) could be a silents pool 3) could be a slow pool 4) could be a fear pool pushing enemy's apart. they could use the passive meter act as ammo for the # of blasts she can make. i am curious how this sounds to people i think it would put her hut passive in to play more. her secant ability could store the potions around her head and save them there for future use.

[@heyitsaustypoo6778]

I really really hope she gets buffed, I got her diamond part of me feels stupid. I feel like I’m putting to much faith in hirez fixing her

[@homelander2243]

Ouch

[@TheSaNdMaN5000]

The ult should either give her protections like Hades' ult or damage mitigation like chacc's ult if they are not going to change the damage or the speed. With the oval shape, well, that's just something you gotta get used to, it's part of learning how to use a God and with her you just have to be aware of her passive at all times wich is not that hard. And the thing with her 2, yeah, I absolutely agree, pressing the ability again should not save the potion, that one is just awkward, you should only save it if you cancel it.

[@fred-d-boss]

I've been thinking and i have many suggestions but one of my main ones was when she uses her 1, when the fireball completes the shape, it should retrace itself through the shape and it hits twice, and her 2 should leave a puddle of whatever the potion is like her one. For example, when she has a oval it should circle twice or the split when it breaks out it should break back in and come back.

[@vinnie906]

Hirez could make a change in her 1 where you can keep pressing the button to select the shape and effect you want and then press the mouse button to activate it. It will change her position in combat and put her in the back line where she is mostly planning than acting, but I think it makes her way more attractive. The random aspect should be used in the favor of the player, not against them.

[@GeneralJ109]

I get some of the criticism, but I think she is one of the most fun gods to be released in a while. Also I think her rng is just part of her learning curve. But if it were to change maybe just have a set cycle of how the 1 comes out

[@DukeSloth]

I actually agree that she's still fun. In games that go well, her kit is absolutely hilarious and can be very satisfying. But the experience is too often soured by her downsides imo. And learning curve is one thing, but poor visual clarity (such as the useless hut in the passive forcing the important info to be smaller) simply isn't necessary when it can easily be avoided.

[@spriteacola9818]

Maybe change the protection buff into a heal when you and your teamates walk over it and if you stand on it the heal its stronger? I know that hi-rez said she was 100% a mid laner but i hope that they dont change her to be just that. I actually really like her in solo and hybrid mages in general.

[@Kai-hk3dv]

Ahhh thank you for making this video

[@deathknight6615]

oh Duke I dont know if you'll see this but If you hit awilix with baba ult while she is on suku then she dismounts not jumps suku just get stuck inside her

[@traviszane5334]

They need to make the lines on the shapes a little wider so they hit more consistently and the effects are applied more often. They also need to remove the stupid 15 percent damage on the second hit of the ability. I think the potion throw is fine. Same with the cauldron jump other than it is bugged were it doesnt jump the full distance sometimes. The ult is really not bad it just needs a slight damage increase and if you run gem of isolation it makes the fire more effective and harder to run out of while making it easier for your team to chase. They really need to fix the bugs with the ult it is useless when you cast it and cant even throw the fire or you get glitched on cabrakan walls and thor walls.

[@vulpes_vulpes6966]

Hirez called her a zoning midlane but 2/4 types of her first ability have no effect on enemies so walking through it or even getting hit doesn't do a whole lot. I saw a comment saying that her 1 should do tick damage if an enemy stands in it to make her feel more like a zoning character. All I know is, I went almost 6min and never got the silent effect and it was a big ol' feels badman

[@apexpredator1281]

I recently ran into a bug with her. I popped the ultimate and the enemy god was knocked back but the camera didn't change nor did she go into her house. I also didn't get the shield. Which in turn left me franticly running back to tower from a kill a should have gotten. unable to do anything praying it's not lag and I wasn't dead. Also I noticed when I first played her that her basic attacks feel faster than normal mages. Even though she isn't chronos I've been playing her as a kind of adc mid.

[@RNS_Aurelius]

I think they should move the cc effects from her 1 to her 2 and reduce the travel time of her 2. Buff the damage of her 1 to compensate for its removed utility and nerf the damage of the 2 if necessary and maybe and some additional effects for hitting the same opponent with 2 potions. This would make her clear better, make storing a potion more intuitive and useful and make her cc easier to apply as it would no longer require enemies to stand in a specific place.

[@ShahroozSmith]

*Baba Yaga knitting a sweater while sitting on the Worst Mage God bench next to Ah Puch and Nox who is permanently glued to her seat.*

[@thegreatkuroh9635]

Itd be easier to mention what went right with her, wait... Nothing. 😞

[@Spain662]

I honestly don't have an issue with Baba Yaga. I've experienced one bug with her Ult, where I was unable to throw any fireballs, but I know Hirez will fix that. Her 1 and 2 are both super fun to use. I appreciate the random aspects, and I don't find it difficult to look at her passive area. Her early game damage is a bit lacking, doesn't pack nearly as much punch as a Scylla, Anubis, or Zeus, but those are all very damaging gods. Give her a slight damage boost, fix her bugs, and I think she's fine. I'm mastery level 4 right now, and I'm planning on getting her diamond.

[@Shamoose010]

Nice vid, touched on a lot of the issues with Baba Yaga, was looking forward to her for months and feel very disappointed. RNG sucks, remove it. The oval definitely doesn't work with her kit as it is, although, if they make it so after the circle is complete it detonates the whole area, it could work. The speed and protection effects on her just don't suit at all, silence in area of effect yes, but add other random effects on top of that, instead of either or. Ult feels incredibly underwhelming, you feel like your better off staying out of it to kill, damage potential is high if you hit all 4 and then, stay in all 4 rings for the whole duration, but it's so easy to avoid and get out of, shield isn't enough, needs some scaling of some kind or added protections.

[@luigimax124]

I think the 1 should rotate. Start with the Y shape, then de Ls and last the oval (although maybe the oval should be removed). As well, each shape should have a specific secondary effect attached to it. The two shoyld have a faster throw and ult should maybe give dmg reduction instead of just protections (like Baron's). Just my thoughts.

[@carlosstaley2871]

What everyone fails to realize is she is supposed to be weird. She is supposed to be different from every god before her.

[@asuchri]

Well theres no point in playing her when the other gods are just outright better

[@eduardoizaguirre9881]

They should make the loop a trap. Like basically it will stun or REALLY slow down enemies passing through it. That way it's less about hitting them but ensuring you encircle them with it.

[@AscendedShiragiku]

Baba yaga also doesn't do much damage which is really annoying, isn't she supposed to primarily be a mid god? Than how is she going to compete with other high damaging gods? I honestly feel she needs some bugs buffs

[@peckarow1282]

Personally I don't want her to be a burst mage. I would like her to be more like Hades and Zhong. Battlemage-ish. Remove the oval, and the speed buff on the ability. I would keep the protection buff to keep her in a bruiser role.

[@dhekutitania]

Agree, even if it wasn't Hirez intention for her to work like that. Then again I tend to prefer uitility mages over burst...

[@bmist666]

For me the worst feeling ability is easily the Ultimate. I cant stand how slow it is. You can walk backward and still outrun most of if not all the damage of the fire.

[@kristoferchettleburgh7824]

Why do tht when u can deadass stand in it and not be scared lmao

[@CurtisBomB]

I've been building her as a bruiser in the support role with gauntlet of thebes and gem of iso and and it feels fine, I'll admit makes her hard to clear with. I agree with the oval being bad but maybe shorten it so you can at least hit the whole wave? Or make it like a out and then back in so it hits accurately?

[@flambo0708]

So I actually think she's pretty okay outside of her ult and the few bugs she has. The 1 feels good, and I understand the frustration with the oval, I think to make it feel better they should either increase the range that the effects are applied or lengthen the time after it's been applied. And switching the prot buff for anything would be nice. I completely agree with the 2. It's a good ability just fix the awkward firing, the only way to put it away should be to cancel it, hitting the 2 after it's brewed should launch it. And an easy way to "fix" the ult other than fixing the bug is to lower the damage and scaling and increase the number of shots to 6 and or give her a small cc immune leap out of the house, kinda like Da Ji's ult.

[@sonicdragon75]

What if the oval got an extra line projectile down the middle that doesn't give out a field?