Fresh And Fit Host Joins HEATED Sneako Debate, Gives Details

[@destiny]

Part 2 on second channel▼ Sneako Shows Hasan's DM To Destiny And Fresh And Fit Host ►kzbin.info/www/bejne/q524h4yprtqfqs0 More Context▼ Sneako Challenges Hasan, Calls Destiny ►kzbin.info/www/bejne/q5fcqYOsh6qEpM0

[@punkrockgalbenevenelse3659]

Yo bro fuck whatever fresh and fit and sneak O saying watch zeitgeist part one. it's probably 2 to 3 1/2 hours long that's it

[@xiqy1959]

Myron dunking as usual 🥱

[@EdgarHernandez-bg1pu]

Government isn't that shady guys.. Epst*in passed away from throat c*ncer

[@razzle_dazzle]

August, it's rare for you, but I think you F'd this one up. You cut off the last video just as Fuentes came on, which is when they started talking about conspiracies and this documentary. I only saw it because someone else uploaded it. People will have no idea what documentary they're talking about or why Sneako and Nick wanted him to watch it and debate about it.

[@alexnderrrthewoke4479]

Destiny explain to me how bin laden went to the white house with bush?

[@hellspark]

I think I could turn Sneako into a flat earther in 10 minutes with basic talking points.

[@ms-mr8kg]

Don't tell him about Zherka.

[@eagle5818]

@@ms-mr8kg LOOOL i swear i love Jon zherka and thats so true lmao, Sneako would DEFINITELY listen to a guy like Zherka HAHA

[@beastmasterbg]

@@ms-mr8kg jeeeeesus Zherka and Sneako would be too fucking funny LMAO

[@malik5531]

Probably

[@clavo6498]

Then why can't destiny change his mind on anything? I think he might think for himself once he sees all the info he has

[@MrHesdan]

Sneako has mastered the art of pretending to engage in critical thinking while remaining absurdly stubborn and closed minded.

[@DSPHistoricalSociety]

Dood he "does his own research"

[@laurendaryani4893]

It's weird how disdainful he is of Destiny taking notes and "doing homework" but that's the dude's character: incurious yet at the same time confident in his own beliefs without a thought given to information that might challenge them. He's got serious middle schooler energy

[@AnEnemyAnemone1]

I don’t know about mastered, it seems pretty obvious when he’s not paying attention and just waiting to speak

[@VashTheDamnFiend]

@@laurendaryani4893 crazy to call him incurious

[@LunaRose1312]

@@VashTheDamnFiend well be is. He just parrots every talking point over the last 15 years, sneako has no thoughts of his own, he's like a walking bitchute compilation

[@ThomasWarhammer]

Sneako's biggest issue is that he just doesn't listen, he's too busy trying to interrupt while Destiny is presenting an argument.

[@user-us9iw6rt7b]

Adhd

[@EdgarHernandez-bg1pu]

Because he's heard everything Destiny has said before. For some reason Destiny thought it'd convince him this time tho lol... But na, after Epst*in, it's hard to listen to "the reports" and trust them

[@RedStoner1000]

It seems like he's mostly basing his view off of his feelings and what he's heard from people around him. He feels passionately about the things he talks about and he's heard a lot of different perspectives but he's not open to new ideas anymore so he'd rather just talk over people. Happened with Aba too.

[@Prolificx]

He's fallen in the trap where if you find out that some conspiracies were true you automatically believe most conspiracies because it's more interesting than boring truths. He interrupts because he's wired to predict what someone is saying, except when he agrees with you. If he agrees with you you can repeat the same points 100 times and it's fine, but if he disagrees with you repeating it the same amount of times makes you a bot.

[@stevem3432]

He probably spaces out when he speaks like he's in history class

[@buibear88]

Sneako is a prime of example of standing for nothing and falling for everything.

[@yungjohnathan1188]

Exactly! I think that’s what makes him so funny and entertaining tho 😂

[@happyhappy85]

Why do people watch him? I don't get it. He's not interesting, he's not funny, he's not smart. He's the kind of guy who just makes my eyes roll the entire time.

[@EdertheJust]

@@happyhappy85 his fans are probably equally as dumb.

[@Pigeon249]

@@happyhappy85 I presume its mainly because he is so "redpilled" and therefore he fits a niche that only few are stupid enough to create content on

[@genesis4k]

I’ll tell you why, sneako is an entertaining guy. He holds many ideas and beliefs that people like, which is why he blew up on KZbin so quickly, He has now fallen into conspiracy theory, political, stuff with an inability to understand that even if he believes some of these things, why is he making content that is only focused around that? He’s alienating his audience and we don’t care nor believe in most of the conspiracy theory’s he talks about. If he wouldn’t have gone so hard specially about Jews, and other conspiracy like 9:11 he probably wouldn’t have been banned and people would be able to stomach him. Now he’s hard to find cuz he’s not on KZbin and does a lot more political stuff cuz of his rumble audience

[@Philosophism995]

The amount of charity afforded to Sneako has little to do with his age and more to do with the undeniable presupposition that Destiny is a girl’s name

[@tekkertruth1256]

Y does this type of comment ever get any likes I will never understand. It’s just a copy n paste job at this point.

[@Justin-qq4ep]

@@tekkertruth1256 obamna

[@degenxayah]

Heh you outpaced him intellectually with the ontology of your rhetorics infallible and undeniable etymology

[@tango31313]

thats a bingo.

[@EdgarFriendlysCivicsTeacher]

@@degenxayah salient but fascist adjacent comment. Ameliorate harder.

[@manemiles]

Please go harder on Sneako a little. It doesn't even seem like he's listening to what you guys are saying. He just sits and reads chat so he can find another question to interject with and derail the previous conversation. Literally the formula has been to ask a very complicated question, then read chat while Destiny is answering so he can come in with another question and completely ignore the answer Destiny gave. He's not even trying to hear a different point of view. He just wants to seem like he does

[@SteveDawgNZ]

Great example of that at 23:20. Destiny gives a long explanation of how the US funded the mujahideen, from whom Al Qaeda later broke-off, but we never funded Bin Laden directly. And then Sneako just reads chat and asks about the next name chat gives him.

[@kikiRa.]

And "going harder" which without more information means nothing would help in this situation somehow?

[@niclastname]

@@SteveDawgNZ Yep he did this so many times, and I find it's very very common with conspiracy debates. They make a wild claim, then as soon as you start to debunk it their eyes glaze over, and once you finish they drop it and move onto the next as fast as possible. Once they realize it can't be defended they pretend it didn't happen without conceding anything. Next piece of script in the dialogue tree. No information processed. Nothing retained. The ironically these are the people calling others sheep and NPC's.

[@ChichiNaka]

You’re describing Most streamers though, XQC asmongold and Hasan just sit and react to chat through conversations too

[@infernez]

@@ChichiNaka Because chat is the meta. Twitch is an awful place to have debates because the incentives are backwards. It doesn't pay to be right, it pays to give chat attention. The goal is crowd pandering.

[@JimC607]

Myron had some great insight for this discussion. He's actually a pretty cool dude outside of the red pill bubble. You should have more chats with him about topics that aren't about women and how much they suck.

[@homiixide]

Nerd

[@TheAlxXxandRuh]

I've enjoyed his insight. His professional experience gives a really great perspective. He's a bright dude.

[@spanky812]

I know man....we get it, women suck next subject please. Their show creates more incels week after week and they profit off it.

[@FlanRoBoThEaD]

When you man up and get into dating females you'll understand

[@JimC607]

@@FlanRoBoThEaD Sure, flanrobothead. Keep smoking that copium, casanova lmao

[@tsgcomics2684]

As much as I hate Myrons relationship advice and shit it was cool hearing him give insight on different topics. Definitely hope he comes on again.

[@rexyz5875]

Because he teaches men to know their worth and treat women as equals without putting them in a pedestal

[@thesupreme950]

⁠@@rexyz5875no he doesn’t see or treat women as equal lol he wouldn’t even agree with this

[@tlmreacts]

@@rexyz5875 bro you didn’t have to lie

[@aaaa-xf3hx]

How does sneako not understand someone who wants to die can push the limits far more than someone who’s job is to keep the passengers safe

[@frankmarano1118]

Plus he thinks it's so hard to do when they only had to steer the plane. There are likely other auto functions that do the rest, they basically were just steering it. Combine that with their flight achool attendance & it seems like itd have been hard for them to miss by that point

[@armedjoy3045]

@@frankmarano1118 my uncle owned a 6 seater plane and let me fuck with the joystick (not sure what actual name is)in the air as a child and it's like playing a laid back video game... a 747 isn't gonna do a barrel roll because you moved the steering a cm too hard. Taking off and landing is like 95% of the difficulty.

[@Nate-wf5hk]

Pilots fly planes not only safely for the passengers sake but also for the planes health, which of course is not something a suicide bomber would need to take into consideration when flying

[@epileptix8954]

It annoyed me so much when he didn't see the difference in the crash scenario. It's an obvious answer. When pilots are in a crash scenario, they try to level the plane, reduce their speed falling, collide at open angles, etc... meanwhile, a jacker is throttling towards the ground. The reason the first crashes don't completely obliterate the plane is because the pilot did everything they possibly could to prevent exactly that.

[@niclastname]

@Sp0iledTransgirl I don't think he believes that exists. He unironically probably thinks it's a choice that you can just decide to stop doing and that any treatment for it is just government control to emasculate you, like he was saying about depression lol.

[@platosghost6916]

The irony of Sneako constantly calling other people bots is making all the cringe muscles in my face very sore.

[@0v3rgr0wn]

corny

[@platosghost6916]

Who?

[@soccerplayer922]

@@platosghost6916 you

[@tecategpt1959]

Same man, sneako keeps on saying the same talking points, insults, descriptions of things these redpillers use. Everyone are bots

[@platosghost6916]

@@soccerplayer922 Who asked, brah.

[@rockbark2137]

The question 'do you trust the government' doesn't even make sense unless you have no idea what government is or how it works

[@VashTheDamnFiend]

lol what

[@colamity_5000]

Wait so Sneako believes that 4 military drones were covered in some kind of exterior casing that exactly resembled the passenger planes then swapped out mid flight. They were then flown at speeds and in ways well beyond the capabilities of the planes they were disguised as, while the passengers were presumably taken to be executed. All this so that they could crash into buildings that were already set to explode.

[@CEWIII9873]

one can stop reading at "so Sneako believes..."

[@auwee7251]

I am only 6 minutes into this video, but Sneako seems like the type of person in an argument to just blurt out whatever is on their mind without thinking about it, without knowing if it is even true and without listening to you. They just want to shout over you and love hearing themselves talk in their own delusional and myopic world.

[@SaintAstro]

Spot on

[@SaintAstro]

@@LIGHTISBURNING they are a good duo but if you fail to see how sneako says blurts out the most idiotics takes and is clearly sayin something he’s heard from someone else then Idk wat to tellbu

[@zekelodge4898]

True I just started watching him a few weeks ago but he does seem like a genuinely good person he just blurts shit out sometime haha

[@SirZipper]

Even the meatcanyon video shows he just blurts out points he's heard from other people/directly repeat them lol

[@DonaldTrunk23]

He's literally the dumbest one out of all these so called "debate lords" 😂 he might be dumber than the fresh and fit dude that looks like a pug.. 😆

[@crabpeople5541]

This is so fucking incredibly difficult to watch as an engineer.... Sneako is talking absoltute shit 95% of the time but Destiny cannot tell him why, 757/767 is easily capable of those speeds so just stick to that, a commercial pilot would NEVER do those speeds anywhere near sea level but the plane is ABSOLUTELY CAPABLE OF THOSE SPEEDS, WW2 PROPELLER PLANES COULD WITHSTAND SPEEDS LIKE THAT IN A DIVE. Fuck I just wish destiny learnt all he could about planes before this. There were so many easy responses to this conspiracy shit that he didnt even touch upon.

[@Femailescortirl]

One of the other irritating things watching the documentary was when they were talking about the secession of explosions right "before" the towers fell, but the towers were starting to come down then...of course there's gonna be explosive sounds as each level collapsed into the one below...

[@crabpeople5541]

@@Femailescortirl God the whole thing was so frustrating, conceding points that high school level physics would explain because Sneako makes incredibly stupid assertions made by the youtube docus he watches but destiny can only counter him on political points (and well done too) but lets him get away with just making up his own laws of physics (at least steve said "I'm not sure" about this stuff).

[@greglane501]

Had he researched the topic even a few hours he would have dismantled it easily.

[@blacksuitedsonic]

@@crabpeople5541 I think the problem for destiny is that he is afraid to be wrong and then he will lose a lot of credibility in a debate. Even if its only highschool level physics if you haven't done it in a while its easy to be wrong. Its funny the circusclown sneako can scream out whatever he wants but destiny being wrong once and the conspiracy nutjobs instantly "win".

[@crabpeople5541]

@@blacksuitedsonic Pretty much that exactly, Destiny isn't sure about rebuttals so he concedes the point to an absolute idiot making things up as he goes.

[@kemori_]

i love that sneako's response to every single point is just "so you trust the government?"

[@harryfieldson]

I think at this point Sneako isn't really fully listening to what Destiny is saying. He's kind of made up his mind on these black and white assessments and decided "Destiny just trusts the government" which he repeats over and over - so anything that Destiny actually brings up that goes against an idea of Sneako's he's already looking for that out of "he's running defence, but I'm still right I just need to find the right angle".

[@TTellin]

He never listens though

[@subwaysandwich7054]

@@TTellin That’s…. what the guy said

[@lemonlime936]

@@subwaysandwich7054 he said at this point

[@TTellin]

@@subwaysandwich7054 he said he THINKS Sneako never listens…. I just asserted it, because it’s true and obvious

[@beastmasterbg]

@@TTellin so you're being obtuse

[@niclastname]

It's always so frustrating that these conspiracy types won't admit anything when they're clearly wrong. They throw out a question, and as soon as you refute the claim they _immediately_ drop it and move on to another question. They know they can't defend it because it was paper-thin, and then the move on as fast as possible to ignore that it just happened. It's so cowardly.

[@infernez]

@@lolizorz Consider the possibility that everything the documentary said was wrong. I could write a documentary on the health benefits of consuming cyanide, doesn't mean it is correct.

[@awsomeboy360]

Destiny said the other day how effective that is to their audience. Him admitting he's wrong open up his credibility to his audience. By moving on its unconsciously effective to his rhetoric..

[@lossnt557]

Dude you need to give sneako a break. When destiny brings up a good point or a just a basic fact like when he told sneako about the towers already having an attack on them before, sneako shut up and admitted he didn't know that. He is already doing more than a huge chunk of the people destiny usually talks to

[@GriffyESP]

bro he didnt refute any of his claims mostly because they are impossible to refute (due to lack of evidence) but also because he didnt even know the details, stop acting braindead

[@dreamspeakhomie]

@@lossnt557 fair (ish) but optically and maybe in sneakers mind, the fact that he doesn't stop and take any time to say well I might have been wrong means he keeps going back to things he's already had better explanations of

[@omgray]

Destiny needs to be commended for his openness and willingness to debate others and for being an actual smart and capable debater. This is coming from a Fresh and Fit fan.

[@zombievikinggaming4258]

You like him because he kisses black ass

[@Misael8924]

I'm being doing this work since 2008. Destiny is quite wrong with his perspectives. Just because he has questions ? Doesn't mean there's som missing. He's ignorant on how Loges Numerology work. He confuses himself trying to points of aspects that has been orchestrated. CIA an Pakistani intelligence created Al-Qaeda. 9-11 has connection with numerology. Myron also isn't going to tell you everything, nor does he know everything in one aspect decision of Government. Some of you people are Naive.

[@SolidSnake240]

F&F Gang we up!

[@mackblack5153]

I don't find him to be THAT capable. He is all right. Debating against someone like Sneako sure gives you a good leverage in the debate, but other than that Destiny use of numerous fallacies really is what drowns all his argumentation for me. He comes off as dishonest.

[@justabeard3794]

@@mackblack5153 POV: you just started watching debates and learned the word fallacy

[@PulseTriangle]

Sneako is a crayon eater. You are ridiculously patient to try and reason with him on anything but his favorite flavor

[@OHNO-k9l]

Myron is a smart dude. This was entertaining to watch.

[@shiyanj2184]

You can tell that Sneako isn't even listening, its so infuriating. The guy is stubborn af. You can see his eyes darting around the screen while these guys are disproving his points. This dude lives in his little echo chamber

[@PandaWarriorTT]

I mean, he is talking to people with different points of view and asks a lot of questions generally. So I won't say that.

[@BrendanishLeo]

@@PandaWarriorTT Asking questions doesnt mean anything on its own you goober. Do you think evangelists are sincerely listening when they deal with or debate people like Dillahunty or random atheists? No. They KNOW they're right (in case this needs to be said, knowing you're right is different than being right) so they can ask questions that would fundamentally challenge their worldview without worrying about having to challenge themselves.

[@rateme6166]

@@BrendanishLeo sorry what did u say

[@outdun]

@@BrendanishLeo Dillahunty is as just as bad as the evangelists.

[@BrendanishLeo]

@@outdun Pretty simple if you read; "Asking questions does not mean you're listening sincerely"

[@dreamspeakhomie]

Part of why the sneaker is lost is because he's on a war against everybody that populism tells him he needs to be against; and then he's also directly a populist because he is always asking chat what they agree with and disagree with and then leaning either towards it or away from it depending on how he feels. That's why his explanation that he asked chat to challenge him isn't proof that he challenges his own opinion because it's like cherry-picking verses that already fit your morality from the Bible, you're just not going to do the things that go against how you feel

[@subwaysandwich7054]

SNEAKER HAHAHAHA

[@Dog3D]

his supporters should be called SneakerLickers

[@jeremias-serus]

Sneaker

[@dreamspeakhomie]

Like, can't you imagine him in doing a live stream out in public but what you don't see below the camera is that he's tiptoeing in Air Force Ones

[@williehellenbach8273]

Nobody, including thousands of pilots, knew that it was possible to land a jumbo jet in the East River without any casualties either... until it became necessary for someone to try it.

[@Femailescortirl]

People do things all the time that might in concept be implausible...until it's done...agree!

[@adolphgracius9996]

imagine giving someone a gun, for the 1st time, and they hit a bulls eye, 3 times in a row after looking at the target only once

[@circaen]

Sneako is not the guy to have this debate with. He is never going to present his positions in a good light, ever.

[@retrobluemusic]

true i agree with him but he sucks at arguing on this subject

[@Killerkiki313]

I’d love it if Destiny would force Sneako to respond to the point he just made rather than change the subject 1,043 times to avoid having to admit he’s wrong.

[@ChichiNaka]

conspiracy guys are literally the most NPC dialogue tree guys imaginable, if you catch the right youtube video you can see what they'll say to every question

[@chainmail5886]

Sounds like Vowsh

[@UltimatePiccolo]

Sometimes there aren't a lot of possible responses to a sheep's comment.

[@AshleyShafty]

Ask me a conspiracy question plz 🙂

[@WOKSTARX]

People who don’t question the system are NPCs

[@zinho934]

@@WOKSTARX People who question government with no education or evidence are NPCs / sneako / Fuentes/ Dawson fans

[@BRG64]

Sneako is one of those people that is incapable of engaging in a hypothetical.

[@chickenandksivideoreviewer9739]

Thats why lav was so into him

[@CElle572]

He's like that annoying little brother lol

[@Tavat]

So glad to see Destiny actually push back on Sneako's dumb shit on an issue compared to the last three sessions where he kinda nodded and agreed with his stupid takes.

[@twitchywitchx]

Why not debate destiny on the takes he agreed with 👁️👄👁️

[@bewatter3014]

If they have common ground they will agree else they will disagree. That’s why it’s nice watching these guys.

[@larsmichael6242]

when it comes to the red pill stuff it's a lot more feelings and pseudo sociology based opinions. A lot of those kind of viewpoints are more of a discussion of values than discussing facts, or at least critical thinking. That's why Destiny repeatedly says it would be "difficult to debate" someone like Andrew Tate, not because he would be "right" about so much, but because of the internal consistency of his world view. Debating conspiracy bros is a lot more like debating radical feminists. Just change Zionists/New World Order with Patriarchy and ask them to apply their standards of thinking to any other subject and the inconsistencies in their thinking show themselves real fast.

[@luffysmoukou7866]

@@twitchywitchx DEBAATE DESTINY BRO! PLS DEBAATE

[@ericstein8019]

@@bewatter3014 if you think a reasonable middle ground is reached with people like sneako you need to reevaluate your goals. I feel embarrassed for red pillers rn

[@andrewdanas]

I’m an airline pilot and I’ll say that you’d be surprised how easy it is to operate a 757/767. Transport Category aircraft are a lot more maneuverable then civilians think, but an envelope still exists. Most of the hijackers had enough pilot training to operate an aircraft and many of these larger transport aircraft are not any different in terms of basic flying.

[@CEWIII9873]

that's nice are you planning on going out like Germanwings flight 9525?

[@Essential312]

Destiny is really trying to raise sneako. I can’t help but see their relationship as father and son 😂😂

[@tm5123]

Sneako "destiny talks so fast" meanwhile destiny is halfway through one conspiracy when sneako already brings up the next one. LOL

[@0Scoops]

As a non pilot who's super into aviation and tried professional simulators. Flying a plane fast and accurate into a building is toddler levels of easy

[@CEWIII9873]

that's nice have you converted to Islam, yet?

[@andrewadams530]

Damn, so fuckin nice to have Myron jump on this call. Someone Sneako obviously trusts, who has sneako's ear and agrees with him on A LOT of other stuff, to come on and talk him down, side with Steve on a lot of stuff and tell Sneako he's wildin

[@freem8son86]

The whole pushing limits/civilian pilot thing was so fucking dumb man. Sneako had like a 40 IQ take there.

[@andrewcox5873]

It’s like arguing a bus driver will know the absolute physical limits of a bus speeding downhill since they drive it all day

[@KsandrPann]

God, that was so dumb to listen to. Civilian and commercial pilots have no reason to test the limits of the aircraft unless there's a life or death situation. And just because some experts say a plane "can't do that" means nothing. Theory vs practicality are wildly different (just look at what the pilots were able to make the plane do during the FedEx Flight 705 hijacking). Also, why is Sneako talking about how well the 9/11 hijackers flew the planes? If you listen to the ATC recordings, Flight 175 almost crashed into a Delta flight on it's way to the towers, and other pilots who could see the hijacked planes mentioned that they were flying erratically. They didn't fly the planes "perfectly"

[@jeremyorthman1873]

Sneako is clearly showing his age in the debate. He mentioned high security in the U.S. Airports...There was hardly any security in airports prior to 911. Later in the debate: "Of course he had insurance, they tried to blow it up before.." Sneako: "OH did they? I didn't know that..."

[@CEWIII9873]

agreed also, they DID capture some of the hijackers on airport cameras being waved through by POC security...

[@aaron-ps7ht]

BTW these pilots weren't "untrained" they received both official training for flying a private and commercial planes a year earlier.

[@aeon_media]

It's like he doesn't know how to research information from credible sources, which is crazy because he said he went to college.

[@andrewcox5873]

I’ve put zero research into this topic and even I remember from twenty years ago that they had received training. Although to be fair Sneako was in diapers at that time so he wouldn’t remember hearing that

[@youngbarrel-roll4649]

@@andrewcox5873 i was a little over 2 months old

[@Cowz19999]

@@aeon_media Going to college doesn't make you smart. Plenty of blue haired Karens with pierced noses out there to prove it.

[@aaron-ps7ht]

@@youngbarrel-roll4649 mate I was 2 years old and am not even from America and knew this fact. However what he's getting at is, that knowing about this shit is a lot "rarer" so to speak if you missed the news cycle at the time. As anything anyone could find out about these ppl would immediately find its way to the news. Nowadays you only get these Infos if you either look for them or by chance watched a documentary on the history Channel about the event.

[@ShivaTD420]

Sneako using a testimonial of a "pilot" is appeal to authority fallacy. I've seen kids defend a idea better.

[@RendingRapier]

It blows my mind that people can call Sneako intelligent. I get that he's young but holy shit.

[@johnb.]

Sneako acting like all the girls they interview on the Fresh&Fit podcast (interrupting people, not listening to facts, ..) made me laugh a lot Thank you for that moment

[@TheRedhairshanx]

Love him or hate him, but Myron is well spoken, researched, honest and entertaining. Honestly an impressive dude, even if he's a little lost.

[@DirtCobaine]

True! He just seems angry at the world

[@sharsasuke01]

I feel like some girl crushed his soul and that was his joker moment.

[@DirtCobaine]

More specifically western society and it’s hard for me to blame him because social media has definitely had a negative impact overall on society. I would have probably been someone like him had I not discover Destiny

[@gSWG3R]

I mean, his views on women are disgusting and brain-cell destroying-level stupid.

[@xiqy1959]

Is he lost, or are you? He seems much happier/successful than some grinch typing in the comments…

[@a_smile55]

God damn Sneako doesn't think beyond the surface level of anything he hears

[@moosepotato4116]

When he said he didn't even know there was a prior attack and Destiny is talking about it, and Sneako is completely ignoring him and reading chat. Ugh. Like, don't you think a prior attack may have some influence on the one you're confused about lol? Dude actually thinks that doing research is bad and you should just trust your gut. Literally advocating for ignorance above reason since all paths to reason are establishment lies. Hes a funny dude but I couldn't deal with him lol.

[@mfisher5323]

Just to nitpick, the idea that commercial pilots aren't required to understand the physical limits of their aircraft is completely untrue. Not only do they have to demonstrate a textbook understanding but will also encounter situations that test the limits of the aircraft in the simulator. Being an airline pilot is very different from owning a driver's license.

[@lonewaer]

Yeah that sounds completely ridiculous. It's not like a car where if you crash, it _might_ not be so bad and you might survive it if it happens at slow enough speeds ; that's a plane, even at slow speeds they're gonna die, so might as well know about the very extreme limits of the plane, and about bad weather conditions, etc. I wouldn't want a pilot who didn't know his plane and its limits inside and out.

[@davidgeraghty3693]

That is true, but the hijackers did all have commercial pilot training. They were not experienced pilots with years of service, but they did have training. They also did not have to take off or land, so it is perfectly reasonable to me that a partially trained suicide bomber would push a plane to much higher limits than an experienced pilot who actively tries to avoid those situations.

[@niclastname]

Sneako tries to attack Destiny on "never looking at the other side" on these things, but judging by his reactions and lack of arguments, he doesn't seem to have ever watched or read anything debunking this stuff. Not to say he'd 100% be convinced if he did, but there's so much he just doesn't seem to know or have any context for. It really comes across that as if he was told or assumed it was fake, and then just watches things that tell him how it was faked. It doesn't even sound like he's ever heard someone refute any of this before. You've got to at _least_ watch people debating this before you try to act like you have a strong stance on it lol.

[@mclazerz8931]

He also seems, not his fault due to age but def due to not listening or researching, just how much 9/11 changed the world and USA in particular.

[@tomd2666]

The dude's high on anti-establishment juice so anything confirmed by an official investigative body with credible sources must be a lie. Who needs the results of experts who bend their entire lives towards figuring this shit out when you can just listen to some dudes podcast?

[@artisbeauty0822]

Yeah you gotta look at both sides of an argument.

[@niclastname]

@@mclazerz8931 Yeah, people who weren't around beforehand really don't seem to understand how different things were and how much less thorough security was before 9/11. We used to go all the way to the boarding area to wait with my mom before her flight, then wave at the plane out the window as it left and it was no hassle whatsoever.

[@jayel7607]

Sneako: Stupid and Proud

[@Nalyddj]

Not gonna lie, I've gained new respect for Myron after this. I disagree with his takes on women and relationships, but would love to continue to hear of his thoughts on current events and other things.

[@rexyz5875]

His takes on women are actually the best, it just depends if youre on the blue haired, liberal side... then ofcourse you would hate him

[@turnerburner922]

@@rexyz5875 I could see if you disagree with some of his takes but he is mostly correct.

[@WTFBUTWHY]

@@rexyz5875 Right... I'm actually happily married but Myron got some of the best female rants I ever heard in my life. I would LOVE for one of these commenters IRL to debate him on them. He's spot the fuck on. And obviously, like he says, there's always exceptions to the rule. But when a girl acts like this, thinks like that, usually what he says happens or will happen...is just fucking FACTS..it is what it is. BUT… they group ALL women into the women I am saying he’s right about. That’s where he goes wrong

[@rexyz5875]

@@WTFBUTWHY yep

[@ANunes06]

The only explanation for Sneako is that he has been in a coma since he was 8 years old, and is finally coming online. Admittedly, this would be a very confusing world to suddenly find yourself in.

[@nardhippel9353]

I think a lot of me are waking up from a constant state of dissociation. Now we have to learn how to actually think for ourselves.

[@JusRed48]

I almost think Sneako is deliberately trying to make himself seem as dumb as possible, as fast as possible.

[@DoomerMavsFan]

Id 100% believe someone if they told me that sneako is just playing into a character as he found his niche on youtube thats gonna bring in tons of views and free marketing through dumb 12 yr olds and hate watchers.

[@rage2904]

@@DoomerMavsFan That is absolutely what he's doing and it's very obvious.

[@tylercsm4690]

Yeah even his fan base is calling him out in his comments

[@jayfromct5164]

It’s really too much shout out to destiny for increasing the IQ of these debates

[@roostre5254]

@@rage2904 It may have started out as a character but the more he plays it the more he believes it.

[@LegiamasC-OnTwitta]

Gulf of Tonkin incident wasn’t made up, it used as an excuse by president Lyndon to enter the war when a US carrier(?) was engaged by Vietnamese subs, which allowed him to go around the checks and balances in a “necessary” action to directly deploy in the country of Vietnam

[@19Slim68]

Sneako needed to do more research before engaging into geopolitical issues. It's far more complicated than being just a guest of Fresh and Fit while talking about men issues. Myron is definitely smart and more articulate.

[@karayi7239]

every conspiracy theory train of logic: there is some elements of the main story that seem sus, therefore, the alternative hypothesis is automatically true. if you ask any conspiracy theorist for their evidence, they'll immediately jump on the main story and attack it as if it counts as evidence for their theory. It's like we have 2 bridge design proposals A and B. I ask you "how do you know Bridge A will work?" you answer "because look at all those flaws and problems with Bridge B". Great logic

[@jreverie7018]

Sneako reminds me of my extreme conspiratorial friend. You can answer everything he says with logic and reasoning but none of it will be ever heard or taken in. Then the next point or idea is brought up. They wear invisible ear plugs

[@lightskinprivilege]

Isn’t that what women do according to him?

[@jreverie7018]

@@lightskinprivilege lol true

[@cabbagedestroyer1693]

Destiny is definitely correct that Myron seems to be a very intelligent guy. He seems to articulate very complex points really well.

[@PasserMontanus]

He's undoubtedly intelligent, he just uses his intelligence in sneaky and disgusting ways. Like Alex Jones, Rollo Tomassi, Pearly and other scumbags.

[@leonseed4464]

Yeah sneako needs to take some notes from myron on how myron is smart and is good at delivering his points

[@jayfe86]

Sneako is so obsessed with chat. Every video I see him in. "What does your chat say" "what does your chat think"... Who tf cares. Talk about what you think and what your opponent thinks.

[@justifano7046]

He doesn't have thoughts to share

[@Sophie-de9tp]

tbh he actually seems pretty insecure. He uses his chat to constantly validate himself & his opinions. "Muh audience of 600k people agrees with me!" Like good on you bro, you've got 600k brainwashed twelve year olds on your side lol.

[@adams.1404]

​@@Sophie-de9tp Bingo. He goes to chat when he feels any hint that he might be looking bad, then everyone goes "W Sneako!!!! LUL!" and it reassures him that he's not actually a dumbass. It's all insecurity.

[@8BitZ0mbie]

They flew into the building in the manner they did because they almost fucking missed a giant building standing still. A trained pilot would have penetrated the building within 3 ft of the exact centre to ensure maximum damage with the wings level. They wouldn’t have nearly missed doing a 40 degree bank. They did that because they had no idea what they were doing and were likely outside the parameters of the plane

[@CEWIII9873]

exactly what a hijacker would say!

[@rexqt5337]

Damn myron is actually pretty sharp too bad the miami girls took a toll on his sanity a little bit much 😂

[@tango31313]

if myron talked more about other things beside redpill shit, id actually subscribe. pretty interesting.

[@rexqt5337]

@@tango31313 the funny thing is he actually knows what he's talking about in women, cuz most of the stuff he is saying about women are true, except for the instagram part cuz what if your wife model?

[@rexqt5337]

@@tango31313 also redpill is necessary these days

[@Tavat]

Even when you are shitting on his bad takes you blame women. Epic.

[@calebgao6931]

@@tango31313 he does have a second channel talk about detective stuff but it ain't getting the views that he got from shitting on miami women.

[@Animekeensama]

I could turn sneako into a white supremacist even though i listen to rap everyday

[@aVenomousSnake]

I think you could get Sneako to believe anything by just saying the government is for (opposite of what you're trying to get him to believe)

[@rohanjarande]

Destiny, when Sneako *immediately* brings up a random point, just after you've said something, you should just assume that he hasn't heard a word of what you said. Because he was too busy in his brain thinking about what he was going to say/bring up, next... I've noticed him do that several times now, it's kinda annoying.

[@lightskinprivilege]

You’re giving him way too much credit, I don’t even think he’s thinking about what to say next, he’s too busy reading the chat, and reading the comments out loud.

[@damnedifido1062]

I can’t believe we are even debating such a topic in 2022.

[@false-set]

I know! Clearly they were drones

[@mikehawk8526]

Right! I wonder if sneako actually believes this stuff or he's refusing to concede cuz he's scared of loosing all the money/followers he's recently gained. 🤔

[@Tavat]

And we aren't debating JFK's assassination anymore because everyone knows there was a second shooter.

[@yeshuamcfly1154]

Pentagon was probably hit by a drone Flight 93 was shot down Tower 7 was a controlled demolition Various entities including the fbi and Cia were aware of the attacks beforehand and let it happen. Whether they new it would be as bad as it was is the only thing that should be up for debate at this point.

[@false-set]

@@Tavat I think the real thing their trying to hide about jfk is his head just did that.

[@IjustCommentf0rFUN12]

it’s clear that 9/11 showed how unprepared and incompetent the US government was before the planes hit those buildings, they had so many chances of catching the hijackers before they took over the planes. Muhammad Atta even broke the law by driving with an invalid licence and was only given a fine. The hijackers were speeding on the highway and one of the hijackers said to the pilot during training that he had no plans to land the plane but still nobody thought that they might be criminals or terrorist. Even there was a director on a flight where a few of the hijackers of 9/11 was conducting a dry run. “He said it was clear of day that they were on a mission to hijack the plane”. He told the flight attendant and the flight attended and the pilot of that flight made a report to the aviation authorities of their suspicious behaviour. Sure some people can mistake incompetence as an “inside job” but more than likely it was the incompetence of national security more than the US government wanting to hurt their own citizens for oil or some “jewish conspiracy”. Sure Al-Qaeda hates Israel and jews, which motivate them to conduct these terrorist attacks in the first place but incompetence is the root of 9/11 happening.

[@SolidSnake240]

Myron and Destiny bounce off of each other really well.

[@Imagineuniversee]

I feel like sneako shoulda been raising his hand to speak while the adults were talking

[@David-xt5yg]

Sneako is an adult too, you are just a boomer

[@Imagineuniversee]

@@David-xt5yg I’m 21 foo

[@konrTF]

@@David-xt5yg I think you missed the point buddy but that's okay Sneako missed every point too

[@tnsrs2719]

Debris can be literally be like 0.5 Kg of material( plastics, metals, glass etc.) thrown in too the air due to the forces and then end up 6 miles further. The amount of forces a plane nosediving at 550 kmh are just insane

[@janice7373]

I am in awe at the patience of this guy. Interesting to watch Destiny in a debate with someone on a better level

[@bloink3511]

The patience arc is upon us

[@CabageBeans]

Idk how he does it. I would've snapped ages ago.

[@2BVayne]

Among us

[@rohanjarande]

Everytime Sneako immediately brings up a point (usually something new/random) after Destiny has said something, it's safe to assume he hasn't heard a single word in the previous exchange.

[@Tom_Hillman]

Compared to the amount of evidence proving the event WASN'T an inside job, the amount of evidence proving it was an inside job is minuscule.

[@mannyencarnacion5120]

Sneako mocks destiny for doing research, while simultaneously looking dumb for not doing his LOL

[@Verseification]

Sneaky needs to watch this back to learn from this bs.

[@danielrivera1833]

40:02 sneako quietly says “I was in middle school” but he wasn’t! He lied and knew he was lying ! I was 7 years old when the towers went down and I am 5 years older than sneako…the gentlemen were right! Sneako was a baby when this event and documentary took place.

[@jasonaced2306]

I’d rather listen to Myron talk about government agencies work versus him talk about relationships he’s so good at it and insightful

[@TopherPettitGaming]

Sneakos issue is he's too young to know what America was prior to 9/11... He applies post 9/11 standards to what was happening before it. I remember boarding planes in smaller airports without ever being checked other then getting your boarding pass print or checking luggage in. Zoomers are really disconnected with the reality this world was prior it.

[@thelion117]

A driver license compared to a pilots license is crazy lol.

[@joshdoesntcare3939]

Sneako and "the audience" hes trying to appeal to... dont realize how much hindsight is playing into their opinion. This is clear from his "how did they fly better than the pilots?" and "the passengers didnt do anything even though they going to die?!" - The passengers didnt fight because they didnt know they were going to die.. obviously if they knew the outcome, ofc they would have acted differently. Just like any human who considers their past mistakes, they fantasize about what they would have done different. To consider someones actions after they have died, is actively asinine.

[@mjr_schneider]

I'm amazed that Sneako is the same age as me. Listening to him talk, I would have thought he was eighteen or younger. His thought process certainly hasn't matured since then, that's for sure.

[@joey7551]

The guy is not even listing "coincidences" he's saying things that are just not true and you can Google them in seconds, like there are no pics of the hijackers on airport cameras.

[@SimonSays288]

Myron is actually interesting to listen to when he's not debating redpill/manosphere stuff.

[@rexyz5875]

Because you denh the things that he says, i mean its real... i dont know how old you are but when a woman reaches a certain age and still single, fnf are right about what happens next

[@christopherismusicallyinclined]

Myron is willing to speak the difficult truths

[@DustinStraube]

Sneako very much has no sense of what things were like when 9/11 happened. The point that this had never happened before is huge. A pilot and passengers are not going to risk their lives if they assume the plane is just being taken and flown to land somewhere else. That was a perfectly realistic assumption to make.

[@stevem3432]

Sneako literally has the mind of a child

[@Femailescortirl]

He is soooooo young and seems like he just falls for the first explanations (unfortunately that seems to be the red pill side of conversations) he hears and I'm glad Destiny is trying to get him to look at all sides.

[@Nellufy]

There are children who are more than capable of listening and understanding than Sneako.

[@zdog058]

The greatest thing about the sneako arc, is that he is like a lost child, Steven is the well intentioned father. You can save him Steven!

[@PasserMontanus]

Medice, cura te ipsum.

[@d8scorelab869]

When Myron isn't talkin about women being awful he seems like a smart likable guy and a good combo with Destiny (which is without doubt a name more suited to a woman)

[@TheUcHiHaMaD]

Sneako has to be playing a character. Entertaining af though.

[@kiriavatar123]

He 100% is. He's said many times he's only here to entertain

[@alexanderwhite1108]

I like Myron in these sorts of settings. Pretty cool guy with a lot of life experience. Usually brings a lot to the conversation while being a very polite guy.

[@bearieroblox6451]

Anyone who has worked in the government or the military or something similar can tell you that the government is run worse than 99% of businesses. I honestly don’t think they could even pull off a stunt like this.

[@MaxHeadshroom1]

Sneako once said that he was called a genius.

[@EdgarFriendlysCivicsTeacher]

My mum says I'm cool. So...

[@pagirios2285]

well his iq is 142 ( or 132)

[@shotsfiredman]

@@pagirios2285 1 divided by 42

[@Oscar-cm4uh]

@@pagirios2285 maybe you and his combined barely reach 142

[@EdgarFriendlysCivicsTeacher]

@@pagirios2285 X

[@coke2679]

I wish destiny had more discussion with people who actually have interesting stuff to say about interesting topics.

[@ALostMap]

So like not Sneako right?

[@anonymouspreme3425]

The irony of sneako saying destiny believes the government without question while accepting conspiracy theories that have been disproved for years is the whole red pill movement in a nutshell

[@BlueLuck17]

The Sneako bot needs to update his software

[@dasnakeshi]

sneako is a entertaining individual but dear lord this man has gone off the deep end with these conspiracies.

[@dreamsuki2307]

Imagine being made fun of for doing homework and taking notes on topics that are relevant to the debate by someone who is debating you on said topic. Sneako is being a degenerate

[@joeldomenichini5038]

I wanted to listen, but by the 11 minute mark I can’t handle Sneako’s ignorance anymore

[@yusefspencer2770]

I usually don't agree with Sneako, but you're REALLY strawmanning the argument. The commercial pilot part was terribly weak. A lot of commercial pilots have experience with noncommercial and military aircraft, and they are aware of the specs and capabilities of the planes they fly. The problem is Sneako can't effectively articulate his point. An example of what Sneako is referring to is the plane that hit the Pentagon. The mid-air maneuver that plane supposedly carried out would have been impossible given the specs of a commercial airplane. And to directly impact the pentagon, creating a hole in the concrete (the nose of the plane cannot penetrate concrete), and hit the target after said maneuver damn near perfect (compare other wreckage from prior crashes to the pentagon crash), at the location where there would be the least casualties (construction/remodeling was taking place) seems very suspicious. Also the fact that the most secure place in the country (if not the world) has only footage that has a shittier framerate than silent movies, and other footage from cctv from surrounding businesses having been confiscated and never released, that would reasonably raise a rational person's suspicion. I'm not saying it's definitely a false flag, but there are so many things in the official record that does not add up. I can point to numerous oddities, coincidences, and anomalies that happened that day.

[@halofornoobs93]

1. Footage from surrounded businesses has been available since the month of the attack. Idk why this claim is always made. It was confiscated as evidence, but all of it has been released. 2. Idk why people think bad video quality on cameras made in the 90's is strange. Have you seen what security camera footage even from banks looks like from that time period? It was all bad. 3. I don't think people realize how much force a plane has against a windowed building. Combine that with the fiery explosion of jet fuel and the damage makes perfect sense. Rockets with a lower explosive yield than that of the planes jet fuel have leveled entire buildings in conflicts. I don't understand why people think it strange that it would do the same to the Pentagon.

[@yusefspencer2770]

@halofornoobs93 Oh, as far as the false equivalency you attempt concerning rockets and aircraft... you understand MISSILES (I'm assuming you mean missiles because rockets are primarily used to transport, not as concussive or explosive devices) are designed specifically to destroy its target. A commercial plane is designed to fly people from point A to point B. This comparison you're attempting is frankly stupid. ... and food for thought: I don't know how old you are, but maybe you're old enough to recall that government officials in separate interviews on the same day recited a scripted response saying the government had no concept of planes being used as missiles (one of them being Condoleezza Rice). That was a flat-out lie. Declassified documents show that a false flag operation was considered (I think it was late sixties or early seventies) whereupon a part of the operation was the hijacking of commercial planes and flying them into buildings. Look up Operation Northwoods.

[@TheBlindArcher.]

Flying a plane really isn’t that hard. It take 4 months to get your commercial license

[@versavices3776]

I love this. I've always wanted Destiny to break down these conspiracies point by point. I could see these types of videos pulling a ton of conspiracy-brained centrists to Omniliberalism.

[@m3rc1337]

One of the most intriguing theories is by Dr. Judy Wood, who argues that DEW technology was used. She used to have a lecture on YT but it’s been removed. Her book is called “Where did the Towers Go?” and it’s available on Amazon.

[@drunkenpanda9860]

I really need sneako to understand that him being in disbelief is just not an argument.

[@moonlightrouge3956]

working hard for that n word pass

[@false-set]

Where we're going, we don't need a pass.

[@sirepauly]

Sneako is such a bot

[@sirepauly]

@@jewscontrolyou9730 lmao actual bot replying to me crazy.

[@sirepauly]

@@conductingintomfoolery9163 ?

[@AV4Life]

The problem with Sneako’s thinking is that he believes the post 9/11 world he grew up in is exactly the same as it was in 2001… They didn’t have the same background checks in place for people to get flight training. Airplane security was almost nonexistent. The world of air travel today is almost unrecognizable in a lot of ways to how it was.

[@partlycurrent]

True, that is the wildest thing to me. Remembereing how flying was back in the day, it was like the wild west.

[@ThisVideoAnnoyedMe]

The only weird and still unexplained part is how the BBC reported Building 7 collapsed before it actually did.

[@parisbower6939]

I might be wrong but BBC’s coverage was during the attack itself and if I remember building 7 had looked like it collapsed. BBC wasn’t the only channel to make this mistake in fact a couple local US stations also were under the impression tower 7 had in fact fallen. It’s not really “predicting” if your prediction occurs less than half n hour later lol

[@halofornoobs93]

No. Errors occur in breaking news reporting all the time about literally every incident. Most reporters didn't even know which tower was which. BBC and MSNBC also reported a "WTC 9" collapsing erroneously that day as well.