So what tied Twickenham? | England vs New Zealand | Autumn Nations Series 2022

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Sometimes it’s tricky to know how to feel about a tie. This Saturday, after an enormously impressive first 40 by the All Blacks, England clicked in a way not seen for three years- So what did we learn about the two teams, and how should they each feel after a bizarre 25-25 day?
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[@doomedcitadel8172]

Was at this game, when England scored their first try, turned to my dad and said "only two converted tries and we draw. Yeah, 2 converted tries in 8 minutes, that's definitely do able..." the universe really undermined my sarcasm

[@quentinstreber2337]

Lebron James like statement

[@CeaselessDetritus]

Nobody need have worried, there were some crusaders players who are at conspiracy theory level for their unfounded favour lavished upon them by NZ rugby journalists. Richie starting, David at all, Codie being on the field for more than 40 minutes. It's a bias but, then again New Zealand has to signal their virtues and favour the heartbroken Christchurch people.

[@Open6music]

😂😂😂

[@hughrutledge2284]

I was there aswell and had this exact conversation with my brother 😂

[@thatsreelcreative]

@@CeaselessDetritus wtf.

[@joqim4652]

at this point I look forward to Squidge vids more than the actual tests. Great content as usual! Cheers from Korea!

[@oliverhallsworth-baines3948]

Tell us more about Korean rugby!

[@bradleylefika9209]

Oh yes 🤣🤣🤣

[@garfieldbraithwaite8590]

Me too

[@woronoaworo3853]

Get more 한국사람 on the rugby field my guy

[@adamb9931]

The other day when Simmonds said England were only about 5% off for the whole game I scoffed. This analysis has made me rethink that slightly.

[@benfalla8673]

The lineout that was past the 15 was definitely planned by England you can see they are past the 15 before cowan-dickie threw the ball. Just a good read by Papali'i

[@mikekelly321]

This likely came from video analysis of England by coaching staff rather than a spur of the moment decision

[@cookerkids]

They did it later in the game too

[@davidkittow]

They have been doing this forever, it means they can take the ball basically on the gain line instead of back 10. Surprised squidge didn’t stop this as he made a previous video about how they attack off the line out. I guess flankers normally wouldn’t attack the ball because it would usually go straight to tuilagi and if they miss the ball then it leave him acres to run into

[@rufusjones3488]

Papali'i was still offside

[@lukesmith958]

@@rufusjones3488 Agree, he still looks to be a few metres offside to me because of how far he has run before the ball has passed the 15m line. Excellent read still, likely based on analysis as others have said, but a more vigilant TMO would have disallowed this try I think

[@Aguycalledjack]

Every time I watch your videos i am blown away with your ability to share something I could never even see. You Sir Squidge are a genius .

[@jonnybaynham1689]

Just wanna say as an England fan in the latest O2 Next Level video we saw the class of the All Blacks as people, not just as players. I don't know why but it really moves me to see Beauden Barrett having a good chat with Farrell and his kids after seeing them as rivals since JWC. Same with Whitelock and getting the NZ boys to present him with a bottle of NZs finest wine. Regardless of what people think of Farrell to see the respect, the class, and the generosity of All Blacks players post-game is really moving and is a big part of this sport after the whistle has blown

[@Tom_McMurtry]

That is cool :))

[@garfieldbraithwaite8590]

Well said

[@malcolmvanhilten125]

Kiwis are gentlemen and sportsmen of the absolute top draw... well at least their rugby players are. Great Nation.

[@Slipperygecko390]

Farrell is a top bloke. Thanks for this comment Im watching the o2 vid now.

[@saoirsedeltufo7436]

Ahahaha that Wicklow reference was excellent, 10/10

[@thelonelystaples6002]

He tails it everytime

[@jameswheeldon4691]

Can you explain the reference?

[@lisasmith2395]

@@jameswheeldon4691 Josh van de Flier was born in Wicklow yet often gets mistaken for a SA import, from rugby-fans-not-in-the-know. I think..

[@domstafford1894]

I heard that, and was like "this is going to be a van der Flier joke, isn't it?" But still had to google where van Portfliet was born to check...

[@saoirsedeltufo7436]

@@jameswheeldon4691 It's a recurring joke in Squidge Rugby videos that Josh van der Flier (from Wicklow) is actually South African, because of his Dutch surname and the fact a fair few South African born players go and play for NH teams

[@Salac0]

4:40 That Youngs joke had me cackling

[@bunniesforlife719]

15:02 got me good

[@julienmccallin1848]

Fantastic video Squidge! The way you've analysed England's attack was fascinating, and you seem to get it so well that you made it really easy to understand as well ! Here's to hoping for some more game analyses. I'm personally hoping for the Georgia game or the france/Italy vs Australia

[@DanA-fk6tl]

His explanations are so good I can even fool myself that understand what he's talking about.

[@lrh5206]

Every Caleb Clarke reference had me giggling like a little fiend

[@davidwhitehorn8594]

Your content is consistently amazing Squid but I think this might be my favourite video ever. Thanks for all that you do

[@NateMulder]

Loved the video! As a kiwi I'm a bit sad that you spent more time discussing England's comeback than the comeback actually lasted, but that's me being a salty lad. Bloody great test. Both teams showed they're genuine threats and that they're peaking at the right time, whereas I feel Ireland, France and South Africa ended their years on a downswing.

[@DanA-fk6tl]

Ireland didn't have a great game against Aus but they looked damn good in the others. They've got a real all round game. England attack structure is definitely bewildering. I think England will work it out just before the opposition do... could be devastating.

[@NateMulder]

@@DanA-fk6tl that's fair. If anything the Ireland game cemented how badly Ireland rely on Sexton. They're going to need to manage him well coming upto the world cup

[@joeboonmusic4004]

@@DanA-fk6tlAgreed on both points. I personally think Ireland are the dark horses coming into the WC… England are starting to show some of that new attacking style and I’m excited, looks more creative and responsive than before. If it clicks it could be something special.

[@ruebengopaul8060]

I think Ireland and France are definitely peaking at the wrong time. It's less of an issue for France, they're the host nation, playing insanely well with great defence and have a wealth of young talent (even if Ntamack and Dupont have been average by their standards, they still beat Aus and RSA playing very poorly). Ireland are similar but they didn't look that convincing in any of their 3 matches, I suspect they could drop 1 or 2 games during the 6 Nations. I actually think South Africa are in a good place and will always be good in a World Cup in France, particularly if they sort out their fly-half and find someone who can actually slot goals. Providing Etzebeth, Marx and co play like freaks, their physicality will be very threatening.

[@patrickchilds2987]

@Nathan I’m English but you make very good point. I understand that the discussion on England achieving an incredible draw, it does not really cover just how good the All Blacks played for the majority of the game . I thought it was the best Al Black performance this year. I thought it was a real statement that the All Blacks are on the right track for the RWC It was so great as an English fan to see players like Retallick and Whitelock at Twickenham. Ardie Savea was magnificent as was Papalii. I liked Moo’unga too what a player. Ultimately England we were lucky to get the draw, however that is sport. I wish England could play the All Blacks more often. The last 5 games between the 2sides have all been close. It’s a fantastic fixture we all look forward to.

[@joeypotter4320]

Your analysis is absolutely brilliant. It is a pleasure to have your content in my feed.

[@AvidDogWalker]

I was at the millennium stadium watching Wales Vs NZ and in the warm up the ABs made a deliberate effort of sliding as far as possible before forming a ruck on each carry. I didn't think much of it at the time but it seems a good way to guarantee a few extra metres and quick ball with good presentation.

[@fraserposford144]

He don't miss! Another Squidge classic, I knew he'd love that Steward try, was an amazing team score

[@henrywebstermusic1]

I love your analysis! It lets me watch the games in so much more depth.

[@Gilescowdemdem]

My favourite part of this video is how slowly but surely Squidge is using Joe Schmidt as the default brain and real head coach behind the all blacks. Fosters strategies, however few they are, barely get a mention

[@familyhenderson9863]

Amazing breakdown of the game & so well communicated. Thank you

[@thejimp77]

Thanks Sqidge, always interesting and insightful analysis.

[@bencornish6910]

Great analysis & heartening to see England using such variations.

[@subwax]

Superb analysis - thank you very much.

[@tuco1099]

Your videos are absolutely brilliant. Don't stop making them!

[@vincentlewis838]

Absolutely top notch, break down work. 👍🏿

[@RiderOfFish]

Some of this analysis of the England attack reminds me of Squidge's commentary on NZ in 2019 against Ireland, the ever changing structures interplaying forwards and backs. Interesting to wonder if Eddie Jones got some inspiration from that as he orchestrated them out of the semis

[@matthewbennettyoung1994]

Amazing analysis Squidger. Thanks. In 20 mins Ive learned alot about formations and how significant they are/could be in terms of strategy. Mesmerising! No wonder they're always talking about how important it is to get the time together as a team. Was this what EJ has up his sleeve? What about his trouser leg?

[@pseudophotog]

Good stuff Squidge- appreciated as ever

[@roberthenrya8317]

thank you Mr Squidge for the efforts, your rugby trained brain and explanations in you sharing, I decided i can only watch and half or 3/4ths understand your vids by playback at 0.75 speed now they making more sense (gradually) - cheers

[@lyonman1988]

Great rugby insight every time! Love it!

[@hafidkouloun6405]

Great analysis Squidge Rugby!

[@ThatsPlunk]

I literally burst out laughing on the office floor when I heard the Van Poortvliet was "actually born in Wicklow". This gag is has more legs every day and I LOVE IT

[@EoinORiordan]

definitely one for the long term listeners too - love it....

[@GeorgeProwse]

Ok, that Ioane advert you did for Squarespace was possibly the best on YT

[@marnessteyn5659]

First team to hire this guy as an analyst wins the world cup..

[@tomsutton1868]

this was an outstanding, thank you squidge

[@0darroch]

Such amazing analysis.

[@kidmowgli]

I was really impressed with England in this game with some really good individual performances, with Marcus Smith in particular impressing. I'm not normally a fan of England's attacking approach but can really get behind this brand of rugby we got a peek of.

[@toddcham]

I think this video was a great balance of being highly incorrect on your analysis and highly entertaining on how believable it is! I subscribed!

[@willhopley]

What an amazing breakdown.

[@astridinvestment4337]

Bang on... insightful, as usual!

[@stuarth43]

Gee, you really KNOW your rugby, you have taught us all so much, thanks muchely

[@hihihihihi3001]

I absolutely love Suidge's micro-analysis of parts of the game that I easily miss whilst watching live, really makes you realise how much thinking goes on on a rugby pitch. Also I think the decision to take the draw by Smith was absolutely correct and remember thinking about exactly what Squidge said about how England were set after that re-start was re-gathered. I was very confused about the vocal outpouring to the contrary over social media. Realistically given the positiong on the field and where the England players are when Smith get's the ball, the only outcome other than Smith kicking it out is a NZ turnover or more likely penalty and 3 points at the death.

[@DanA-fk6tl]

At the time I really wanted us to play on and win the game, but since the ref was pinging everybody at the breakdown I think it makes sense to kick out, if they think they're gonna get pinged.

[@Dave-kt2bl]

First class breakdown of this game. Think your right, won’t see this structure till the WC

[@eridanoooouuuuus]

Amazing video as always

[@ignatiusmeyer5680]

Probably the only channel where I watch the ad punt. Think I'll have a look at Square Space, good laugh.

[@iaintedbury1148]

You guys are Amazing !

[@sebclement6253]

You get it, you understand Eddie's mindset, not many do. Great analysis.

[@graytoby1]

I promise you Eddie Jones or someone in the England camp is watching these Squidge analysis videos because they're so fucking good informative and well put together. I promise you 100 percent professional international teams will be watching these videos and learning something. Great job Squidge

[@stevenburrow8804]

My question is, did England run these lines throughout the game, or only with the man advantage? Because THAT would be an absolute masterstroke. And leave many teams wanting if employed only when they're a man down...and give a really strong chance at the RWC. This weekend I'll be watching for that, especially against the Springbok defence.

[@udonmask2727]

Great vid and insight! Wales vs Aus and Eng vs SA next please!

[@haydnlovie3855]

This is a moment in sport were the players can take a real example of what not to do. Players need to understand saving a try is not worth a sin bin

[@actiaint]

I only skimmed video but saw no analysis here of that infringement. There is a case that Barrett was not the tackler and had every right.

[@haydnlovie3855]

@@actiaint defin8ly coz it will takeaway from the England team gtn nothing till the 70th min

[@filthymutt6029]

It definitely is worth it though. Most of the time, a sinbin does not result in a 14-point swing. All blacks were just particularly terrible at adapting.

[@haydnlovie3855]

@@filthymutt6029 4 sure and England honestly just ripped the all-blacks 2 pieces in the last tbh congrads 2 them

[@MiniMatthew]

Can you imagine how England might have actually been come the world cup when Eddie has 3 months to get them all in line prior. Makes me so sad he got sacked. If England don't make it out the group then Sweeny should be sacked.

[@gregorybaillie2093]

A good analysis. It's great to see Eddy Jones and the Poms doing so well and I wish them all the best in the future which on the strength of that performance looks like a bright one. Meanwhile Down Under rugby languishes in a self created never ending doldrums.

[@andrewteli]

The final 10min strategy from England worked when the all blacks were down a player. This wasn’t mentioned

[@trevoryang4355]

Best analysis out there

[@onlookervb]

Love the subtle van der flier dig 👌

[@earthshift]

Just here waiting for the Springbok v England video !!!!

[@JyveKilla]

17:55 the comment about Farrell passing early, he did this because he was in open space and his ankle was cooked. he knew he couldn't do anything himself. he could jog in a straight line but couldn't step or sprint.

[@paulopie1541]

Exceptional as always. I can't find the Wales v Georgia video though. Could you post the link please.

[@robicenco1]

Great video. I thought I was going mad because it was obvious to me that we were in absolutely no position to mount a serious attack off the final play. It was clear as day that we'd give away a penalty, most likely for holding on, and go down to a heartbreaking defeat. Yeah, you bet NZ wanted us to go for the win....

[@mr.e6748]

Englands attack looks like the perfect anti-rush defence tool.

[@jimbojonesporfavor]

NZ don't use the rush defence

[@simonadams6640]

6:22 Oooof but yeah - Clarke is really frustrating. They seems really committed to keeping him there though.

[@Bolthazard101]

Great analysis and I think you rightly point out that England aren’t out of contention for the World Cup. However, this review felt very one sided. I understand your glowing review of England’s structure but I do think it’s important for you to have stressed a bit more the fact that it was against 14 men after the 70th minute at which point there’s naturally a lot more space to exploit and tires bodies. Don’t think that’s enough to say that “it clearly works” and is a World Cup winner. Will be interesting to see what happens in the 6 nations!

[@liamriddy358]

It was working before NZ went down to 14 though, as he stated. Then the yellow came directly from an incisive attack vs 15 players.

[@GRB-tj6uj]

England are underated as potential world cup winners for the simple reason that they have by far the easiest schedule out of all the real favorites. Poule D will be a lot of fun and Argentina and Japan will be very dangerous but losing to both of them would be a major shock. Then there is a quarter final against a team from a historically weak group. Wales and Australia are looking poor and nobody would be surprised if Georgia or Fiji qualify for the knockout stage. After that follows a semi final against a team that comes from the side of the schedule that has all the other "big" teams and will have had much tougher games. At that point in the competition attrition is a big factor. So England can easily reach the final without needing to play exceptional rugby or actually be one of the two best teams in the competition. Furthermore: no Eddy Jones team has ever underperformed at a World Cup, so the will be well prepared.

[@Bolthazard101]

@@liamriddy358 but they were losing....

[@guyhmajor]

Very good review.

[@lost_boy]

Great video, Squidge. Don’t know how you have the patience to trawl through England matches tho - I’m English and couldn’t watch the men’s team in such detail. But damn good effort. You could certainly see what England are building, but my worry is it took NZ to go down to 14 players for it to work against one of the top teams. Time will tell how this plays out in the six nations. I’m already excited for it!

[@jakemiddleton5266]

There were 2 or 3 overlaps against NZ in their 22 that Squidge doesn't mention. Both Farrell and Smith calling for the ball with their hands in the air and not getting it. So the attack would have worked more, but the forwards kept having one carry too many (at least). This is an Eddie Jones learning for me. He is so gainline obsessed that the players aren't thinking, +1 metre is considered a victory regardless of scenario. I also think the strategy in the 22, until the last 10 minutes, was very predictable. Attempt a maul, move nowhere, 5 phases of forwards bash until they give away a pen or NZ get a turnover...which annoyed English forwards who then gave away a pen. They just need to trust the backs and the system more and move the ball once they have go forward. They showed they can do it in the last 10. If they did it more often in the 22, it could have been a 10 point + victory against NZ.

[@lost_boy]

@@jakemiddleton5266 true. lots for them still to learn and figure out, but the pieces are starting to fall into place so that's definitely something to be positive about.

[@YallNotWhite_YourPINK]

@@jakemiddleton5266 lmao your reaching if you think england could have won 10+. Nz were dominating and missed atleast 3tries

[@taura101]

This was karma for the Black Ferns XV beating the English Roses XIV in the Women's World Cup Final at Eden Park last week. Fossie said great things happen with Beaudie at the back. Including yellow cards it has to be said. But I'm just a fan. I had to stop watching the game after Beaudie went off with All Blacks sitting on a big lead. Imagine my fury at the All Blacks for blowing that lead. Later I gave them credit for holding 80, 000 English fans at Bay 470 minutes in the same way red roses held 42,000 Black Ferns fans at bay for 60 mins. Sometimes the 16th player can help out when it's really needed. I love Squidge but I was dreading this like a dreading All Black fan. This was a great watch and always great to hear a non New Zealand view as cogent as yours. During the women's world cup my wife became a Squidge fan.

[@BLUES_N8]

@@lost_boy interesting question. 2023 England Vs Ireland & France at 6 Nations Cup

[@edwardstevenson1400]

I love Squidge Rugby, you do an awesome job! Just a rule clarification please: iit you're not involve in the line out, you are 10 m back. When are you allowed to advance? AFTER the ball has gone 15m OR if you can clearly see the ball is more than 15m you can start? Also, the member of the line out have to stay within the 15m until the is throw, yes?

[@joshwaihi]

Would love to see you do one of these videos on a referee. Bring some clarity around what they're doing to improve (and sometimes degrade) the game

[@vincentcoller9419]

Manages to squeeze the JVDF joke in again at 3.44 Love it

[@chrisblockley5783]

15 v14 is always going to be a help.

[@theeejit]

Nice Van Der Flier reference thrown in there!

[@petercutting6126]

Yep, a REAL Irishman! Has he gone home yet?

[@W0lskaap]

Do you think they'll use their new attacking structures against South Africa? Do you think South Africa's defensive system will handle it?

[@benrobinson375]

What a game that was. England may have been lagging behind points wise in the beginning but you had the sense they could've scored more had they not made as many mistakes. The All Blacks also showed a lot of promise in this first half; to me they look better than they have done in the last year. I have the feeling England will be much happier with the draw than NZ was though. The 2023 RWC is gonna be a good tight contest and can't come fast enough.

[@hefindavies3088]

Upload the wales Georgia analysis please and your verdict on Wayne Pivac

[@saba8612]

you have to do wales vs georgia match review its a must do

[@Shaneo968]

Absolutely love the “Van” origin story jokes flying in the videos

[@xxxelcapitan007]

Do a tactic analysis of RSA vs Italy. It was RSA first Autumn Series win and Italy's big test after a very impressive win.

[@bapple494]

That van poorthliet Wicklow joke got me good 😂

[@jgg0207]

Incredible content

[@mrdrevilporkchop666]

So good!

[@davidmangan4]

I may be wrong but when LCD throws that ball at the lineout, the jumper is already over the 15m line so not sure how it's an over throw He hit his man perfectly as far as I can see...

[@Maxiiim02]

I was starting to doubt myself for thinking Marcus Smith actually had one of his best games as England's fly half as well. Some people were not happy with him, lol. I thought he was assured and vocal and made great decisions. Passing spot on. Playing with Farrell also seemed to work very well for him. He probably still isn't the finished product, but this was a reassuring performance indicating he has grown since the 6 nations. Anyway, it was lovely to watch this deep dive as always, Squidge.

[@joeboonmusic4004]

People forget how few tests he has played tbh. The man is starting to really grow into the shirt, he will be special for sure.

[@patrickchilds2987]

I think as fans we place such high expectations on players and judge them often on single performances. I think Marcus Smith is a wonderful player, still very young . Quinn’s play a very different style to England so he will benefit and learn a lot playing with Owen Farrell. Eddie Jones has clearly decided on the Smith Farrell axis so I think it’s time that fans buy into it rightly or wrongly

[@frigobar0173]

Will you do Italy vs Australia?

[@stevehughes1510]

Yep the ABs didn't double down following the yellow card, couldn't believe my eyes........lol. Cheers Squidge!!

[@joewright5293]

JVP is the future England 9 alongside raffi quirke, both are absolute raw talent and it’s videos like this that highlights how young players are literally there to learn.

[@murrayconnor9797]

Would love to see a video on Scotland rn cause I feel like with Russell and good discipline they are one of the best e.g. Argentina last weekend

[@the11eventhour]

Watching this is more exciting than the match itself x)

[@jimbojonesporfavor]

That's true for most England matches

[@theroguescholar9218]

Just a note that this very “lateral-pass” attack is known as the hallmark of Randwick rugby club, where Eddie played for 10 years (and I played as a junior until a back injury ended my inevitable wallaby career). Particularly in the 80s and 90s (Eddie played 81-91) when so many Wallabies stars were from Randwick, and the Wallabies adopted this fast flat attack. Talking David Campese, the Ella brothers, Matt Giteau, Phil Kearns, Sekope Kepu, David Knox, George Gregan, Simon Poidevin, Morgan Turinui, Drew Mitchell, and Andrew Kellaway and Kurtley Beale today (not to mention my grandpa Col Windon who held the Aussie try-scoring record for 30 years from 1952). And of course international coaches Ewen McKenzie and Michael Cheika. I’m sure there’s a lot of other influences and thoughts since then in Eddie’s approach, but it’s a very very interesting piece of Australian rugby history, and quite befuddling as an Aussie seeing England perform it so well 😂

[@Brucemcleod2345]

I agree. Marcus Smith is becoming a world class player. Smith and Steward are becoming game changers

[@mattmills419]

Brilliant!

[@MegaTomtom212]

A laws question. With the lineout, I thought the defence aren't allowed to advance until the ball has passed the 15mtr line? Or do our players in the lineout allow them to advance by crossing the 15mtr? Dalton Papalii starts his run just after the ball is thrown.

[@JeffCampbell2016]

In the comments , the line out was over since the ball went past 15m on an over throw

[@MegaTomtom212]

@@JeffCampbell2016 yes it did eventually go over the 15mtr line. But the defence was moving just as it left the hookers hand because he could see it was going to be over thrown. So technically offside as the ball had not passed 15mtr.

[@Slipperygecko390]

Loved this video. I enjoyed that game so much, I enjoyed the draw too I thought it was fitting. Im a Kiwi but I'm a closet England fan, especilly after the performance they put on us in 2019. Eddie Jones deserves more credit than he gets, has so many haters from the English fanbase it grinds my gears, he's a great coach. The All Blacks I thought were awesome though, they held up to a lot of pressure all night, got worn out in the end.

[@jackstone7953]

After that game, do you feel confident in your 2023 England WC prediction Squidge?

[@philipbellstedt909]

It's pretty sad to watch this now that Eddie Jones is out. Next year's World Cup has lost one of its biggest contenders.

[@davidhurst8057]

"Youngs first pass picked off by William Webb-ellis" very well done @squidge 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@manupasi6976]

It was shocking how clueless the defense looked after Papali'i got subbed... It does feel better than last year but so much of it is one step forward two steps back...

[@scottmcgill9359]

"...like an apple in the worlds worst fruit salad..." I love you squidge(s)

[@jime8577]

Just a quick shoutout to the organization’s that you thanked for footage. Thank you from me as well Let me head off to square space. I have 70 websites to create in record time. Another gem from you as well Thanks

[@jamesmiller7713]

Ben Youngs getting picked off in his first test by William Webb-Ellis - beautiful stuff

[@conorredmond10]

We need a squidge on any Ireland match (preferably Irl vs RSA

[@jbee9713]

When I was watching Saturday I knew there was something special that wasn't 100% for the first 65 from England, even though the lads we're just saying "we are so ****"! And this video has proved me right. When this clicks finally, with Smith singing on full voice, is going to be a dangerous England team again!

[@Trajan2401]

Rubbish they only clicked when NZ were a man down when it was 15 on 15 England weren't in the game

[@jbee9713]

@@Trajan2401 somebody didn't watch the video. Don't worry pal, you clearly know nothing 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤦🤦🤦🤦

[@Trajan2401]

@@jbee9713 ,you clearly know nothing if you think England were great when they were rubbish for 70 minutes yes the reserves made a difference for the better with England but not NZ but still no way England would've drawn the game if it was 15 on 15 at the end

[@Trajan2401]

@@jbee9713 ,it seems like the English media and fans are still highly overating their sports teams I suppose they're already chanting It's coming home at the Fifa world cup 😂.

[@neill392]

@@Trajan2401 The benchmark that coaches and analysists use for 15 v 14 is 7 points in the ten minutes. Getting 19 suggest England did something very good or the AB's were shit at coping with it, possibly a bit of both. Does put the Roses' 63 minute effort in some sort of context. If the AB's had coped like the Roses, they would have conceded 3 points. If the Roses had played like the AB's they would have conceded 95.

[@henkmaritz007]

Playing the "reaching some form again" Springboks on Saturday. Cannot wait. Any country who thinks a Springbok loss makes them an easy team to beat, should think again. At their best, no one in the world can beat them.

[@Ares1244gfdf]

Why do u think it took so long for the attack shape to become present in the game? Was it fitness or due to the yellow card? As potentially due to the all blacks being down to 14 might take away the focus from thr attacking shape to avoid opponents or the media overanalysing it and just putting the scores down to more space on the field?