Captain America: CIVIL WAR - Review Podcast! (SPOILER HEAVY)

[@Mojo__]

took me 20 mins to notice Ant-Man on Cap's shield.

[@MrStokes]

^^^

[@pauliuskvedaras9559]

took me going to the comment section to notice Ant-Man on Cap's shield.

[@raymondbenito1405]

+Mojo_Shitposter More of the genius Ant-Man marketing from Marvel.

[@Rayzworld11]

Mojo_Shitposter couldn't notice if he was faking the voice or not.

[@XchampionXFTW]

Took me 44

[@lucariomew365]

Zemo was the only villain in all of the Marvel movies to accomplish his goal, and his plan was actually well thought out.

[@TehEpicRyuga]

didn't Loki do the same in Thor 2?

[@lucariomew365]

Annuga They play up Loki more like an anti-hero and an anti-villain.

[@Veolynn13]

[nerdy comment about Dr. Eggman and Magic carpets]

[@paoerfulone1089]

*After watching Infinity War* Well, he’s not the only one anymore.

[@icedcapplord710]

Well, Thanos makes 2

[@TehJellyLord]

After watching Civil War, I went back to watch the first two Captain America movies because the movie put me in a Captain American mood and I finally realized that "I can do this all day" is Cap's catch phrase. Sorry if that was obvious, but I'm young and stupid. This movie was amazing though, 9/10 from me.

[@weirdotzero7065]

Spider-Man Age-o-meter 1 Toby Maguire = 26 in 2002 as 17/18 2. Andrew Garfield = 27 in 2012 as 16/17 3. Tom Holland = 19 in 2016 as 15

[@aaronthebox]

That's fucking insane that Garfield was older than Tobey Maguire...Maguire looked like he was fucking 35

[@Tozyro]

Damn dude. That’s crazy. Thanks for sharing though

[@RednekGamurz]

I think Cap honestly had a bit better of an argument here. I agree with what he's saying about not allowing the government to control their actions because we've learned in Winter Solider that government organizations can be taken over by Hydra or other evil organizations. If Hydra or some other group we're to take control over the government again, they would have full legal control over the heroes. I still see where Tony is coming from, but I think I side with Cap a bit more.

[@originalscreenname44]

Even if you discount someone dubious using their powers for their own gain, you still have the problem of the governments of the world jumping to conclusions without finding the truth first. They immediately blamed Bucky and put in a "kill on sight" order with nothing more than very spotty photo evidence. Sure Cap was working on instinct when he first said Bucky was innocent, but he did the legwork and found the real villain all while the government still wanted Bucky's head.

[@johnsquarez6806]

+originalscreenname44 why was bucky blamed, but not hawkeye when loki controlled him?

[@MrPerfect2000Z]

Because the public doesn't know that Hawkeye was brainwashed

[@The_Chosen_Heretic]

That's actually a fantastic point. Thank you for bringing this up.

[@abrahampena1263]

I agree but in winter soldier and avengers 1 you can clearly see that he is perfectly capable of following orders so this 180 "No one knows better than me" is not justified given the context of those previous movies

[@King-ty7mz]

How did I just figure out that Ant-Man was on Captain America's shield

[@TehJellyLord]

And Spider-Man is.... No where to be seen.

[@JAKX091]

Are you some kind of....being?

[@King-ty7mz]

TehJellyLord ikr where's spider-man?? :P

[@AlphaJman]

+King When they took the picture, spider man couldn't be there because he had to go to school.

[@ashman0312]

AlphaJman Or he's the camera man. After all, he needs to pics for the Bugle

[@Darwyn4321]

I loved Zemo in this movie. First, like Johnny said, the point of the movie was the Civil War itself. it would've been too distracting if Zemo took center stage half the time and the war took the other half. Second, I loved Zemo in this movie because he's a random nobody - a Slokovian soldier - who managed to do more damage to the Avengers than any other villian so far, and he does it indirectly. And seriously? You're surprised Cap and Tony didn't kiss and make up?! Dude! Steve knew Bucky was the one who killed Tony's parents and kept it from him, and Tony, without hesitation, sided with the government when they wanted total control over the Avengers, which is what Steve is against most. I think it makes perfect sense that they aren't close anymore.

[@weirdotzero7065]

+Darwyn1234 and, surprisingly, Zemo is the first Marvel "villain" to succeed at his goal.

[@siljeff2708]

I disagree completely about Zemo. I thought he was one of the better villains. He wasn't Baron yet, and he survives the movie so he can always don the mask and truly become the Baron Zemo we all know in the future. Plus, I liked how he was the product of the Avengers mistakes and succeeded in his plans to cause them to implode. Also, regarding finding out about Tony's parents true killer, Arnim Zola told us in Captain America: Winter Soldier when he was proving that Hydra infiltrated Shield

[@johnsledge3942]

I agree.

[@williambrown873]

+SilJeff I agree, I just think his plan sucked. Relied too heavily on coincidences and circumstances beyond his control (remember, Zemo's in this alone, and he's supposed to be just an ordinary guy). Plus, regardless of what Zemo thinks, his plan to kill the Avengers failed both literally and metaphorically. No body count, and he just ended up making 2 Avengers teams. One funded up the UN and another funded by the most powerful/resourceful country in all of Marvel history.

[@JAKX091]

+SilJeff I loved Zemo to, even more than ultron lol

[@67Dragonball]

I liked that detail and loved how they hinted to it in Winter Soldier when Arnim Zola showed it and Captain America said he knew to Tony. Really added to Tony attacking Captain America as much as Bucky.

[@aaronthebox]

Honestly he was one of the better villains overall, including his plan and its effects, but he himself was just a little too bland. He just came off as "some guy that hates the Avengers"

[@HubPie3]

This. This movie. This movie here. This is what Batman v Superman should have been. Also, Tom Holland's Spider-Man is amazing.

[@RuthlessAggression99]

+Hub Pie It really didnt Civil War is a good but extremely flawed movie.

[@Da_ComputerMonster]

You know that one scene. You know that one scene. From that old movie, Empire Strikes Back. On the snow planet....with those Walking thingys!

[@HubPie3]

computermonster1 Were you carbon dated? Or are you part of the young crowd?

[@EpitomeOfHope]

Or maybe BvS could be its own thing.

[@IceBreakerXY]

+Served Justice its own horrible thing

[@weirdotzero7065]

Spoiler Alert: It's better than BvS

[@chknrsandTBBTROX73]

That's not a spoiler, they showed that in the trailers.

[@Mectro15]

No it was better when they announced it

[@dudebroman9334]

+TimtheEnchanter it really wasn't...

[@Triforce9426]

If Hulk was in the movie then he would be on a side all his own. And he would likely win. Go Team Hulk.

[@clickycal]

+Yu Narukami Unless thor was also there and they went 1 v 1.

[@williambrown873]

+Yu Narukami I was kinda hoping the entire time that Hulk was the reason Thunderbolt Ross was the UN's ambassador to the Avengers. "Oh yeah, public opinion blah blah blah, do happen to have any method of tracking a giant green monster??"

[@Jmyster4]

+yuoke there is an entire movie dedicated to exactly that. It was more of a 1 v entire city. Guess who wins :P

[@ardain984]

Well really, if Hulk was in, then I think Thor would be on the other, if they were on the same side it would be extremely one sided, but if they were against each other then it would be more equal, because of their fight on the Helicarrier in Avengers, they were fairly equal

[@sokonation5121]

Thor went back to Asgard at the end of AOU

[@ArtsyFoxo]

Black Panther is really cool, Johnny. If you need to get good background info on him, you have to go to the Comics Explained KZbin channel for that.

[@bumpndump9643]

now this just makes me fucking happy, another podcast with the good and old Johnny

[@AdmiralOctopus]

"This is America's green dick, rargh!" One of the greatest quotes to ever come from this channel.

[@MrLuizilla]

Wasn't it estabilished that Bucky killed Tony's parents in CA: Winter Soldier? I seem to remember something like that popping up during Zola's big Hydra reveal.

[@HubPie3]

+Luigizilla Yeah it was. Tony just never knew about it.

[@SuperfieldCrUn]

+Hub Pie Ah. It's been quite some time since I saw Winter Soldier, and I forgot about that, so when Tony asked Steve about whether or not he knew, and he said he did, I thought, "Wait, how?"

[@johnlowry4307]

I would say it was more implied, it was never flat out stated, they probably did that intentionally to leave a plot point open for this film

[@MrPerfect2000Z]

+John Lowry Exactly it was implied by Zola originally that Hydra instigated the car accident that killed Stark's parents and I guess you can put two and two together that Bucky caused the accident. That's how I remember it happening in the Winter Soldier

[@onesonicguy]

Saw this movie on Mother's Day and absolutely loved it. Can't wait for Infinity War.

[@isaacplayer4268]

+onesonicguy Personally, I'm more interested in Battlefield 1, but to each their own ;) #UnfunnyJokeIsUnfunny

[@mechashadow]

Knock Knock, it's Johnny, Cinema Podcaster Let's Player, Video Game Reviewer I'll make you the hokage of ningas..

[@rodrigoovalles4984]

Martin Freeman's character is Everett K. Ross. He's a big figure in the Black Panther comics from what I understand. Probably set up for BP's solo film.

[@aaronthebox]

MCU Top 5 1/2: The Winter Soldier/ Guardians Of The Galaxy(I love both of these so much for different reasons, so their basically even) 3: Iron Man 4: Civil War 5: Ant Man

[@GrammarNaziAUS]

Believe it or not, they've been referencing the fact Tony never got to say bye to his parents since the first movie. Go back and watch it, it's in there.

[@GrammarNaziAUS]

Also, who else immediately realised who Winter Soldier was killing in the opening? I thought it was pretty obvious.

[@ThePonderer]

Feel free to voice a different opinion if you disagree with me, but does anyone find it interesting how in contrast to both Avengers movies (which seem to go out of their way to make sure that everyone has equal story relevance [except Thor in Ultron, sort of]) this movie has a very clear descending hierarchy of who has most bearing on the themes and plot; 1. Steve, Bucky and Tony are all sort of shared protagonists, 2. Zemo and T'Challa who have almost as much to do but aren't really in on the emotional struggle of the above three, 3. Wanda, Vision, and Peter, who are all firmly supporting roles but of the supporting characters have the most focus and reflect the themes of responsibility most clearly, 4. Natasha, Clint, Sam and Rhodey, all of whom are just as relevant as Wanda/Vision/Peter but who's values and representations relative to guilt and responsibility are alluded to less explicitly. 5. Scott, who of all the powered characters is definitely the one who's absence would be least conspicuous if you just took him out of the movie, but who still works as a representation of anti-authority altruism the same way Steve does. 6. Ross and Sharon, who are mostly there to be the more broad representation of Steve and Tony's sides.

[@theyosh647]

LOVED CIVIL WAR! While it deviated from the comics, it really made the stakes personal and I loved the whole cast! 10/10.

[@shirobrief3538]

Probability manipulation is Domino's power. Scarlet Witch's powers are reality warping, a power Doctor Strange describes as Chaos Magic.

[@TheCynicalGhost]

"Nobody likes pairing up with Spider-Man." Except Deadpool, and what makes their relationship so amazing is that Deadpool is the only person Spider-Man really doesn't like because of how similar they are. 😂 Also, people I really see who don't like working with Spider-Man, more older/Ultimate comics than modern comics, are Wolverine and Punisher, and they don't like him because of how much he talks and the kill code. Lol. Also, the angsty Defenders in the Ultimate comics don't like Spider-Man, except Luke Cage and slightly Daredevil.

[@Kuzamer]

The Marvel Knights do love their edge... But Spidey ain't havin' none of that edgy shit 😂

[@TheCynicalGhost]

Monkey D. "Straw Hat" Luffy Exactly. 😂

[@CrissAssasin7]

The story reason for neither Thor nor Hulk being in the movie is Thor went to investigate stuff that he saw in his vision and Hulk flat out ran away

[@smashmaster521]

And their inclusion would break the plot.

[@CometX-ing]

My primary issue with Ant Man in this movie, is that it really just makes his movie's ending irrelevant. I mean, he's finally cleared and has his family back and then he goes and joins the side of a man aiding a (falsely accused) murderer and get's thrown into jail.

[@CometX-ing]

I also did not like Zemo in this movie.

[@asshatt6908]

The way he was introduced tells me that cap just kidnapped him in his sleep.

[@TheCynicalGhost]

I get that a good chunk of people are lacking in knowledge about the Black Panther, but they will explain any questions you had about him from this movie in his solo film. Basically, his powers is somewhat of a spiritual thing, where it's like the Wakanda Panther God, and only people in the line of the Black Panther has access to something like that and bam he has powers. Black Panther is also one of the smartest people in the Marvel Universe and is also one of the most skilled martial artist dropping Cap easily more than once. He also outsmarts someone like Tony Stark on a daily basis. He his the King of Wakanda, one of the technology advanced countries in the Marvel Universe. T'Challa is also an acrobatic, master strategist, hunter, scientist, etc. I personally see him as a better Batman. I do recommend reading his comics, they are a fantastic read and his character is just fucking awesome. Lol.

[@Frodudus]

Thanks for this, SomecallmeDaddy.

[@SuperfieldCrUn]

I am 100% Team Cap... as of right now, because I don't see any reason why regulating the Avengers will produce any fewer innocent victims or collateral damage than they currently are. If there was some situation in which the Avengers were endangering people that they didn't need to or were intentionally causing damage that really didn't need to happen, then they'd have a leg to stand on. But this was all kicked off because a dozen people got blown up in Wakanda? Yeah, that's terrible, but that's kinda to be expected when you're dealing with shit on the level that the Avengers deal with. I feel like the villains in general aren't brought up enough in these discussions. Like, why didn't Cap say "You know, there's only so much we can do when an alien army led by a demigod falls out of a portal directly above New York. I think we saved just as many people as can be reasonably expected in such a situation; why are you blaming us instead of the aliens? You could've at least mentioned that there were aliens. From the sounds of this conversation, this happened because we were messing around." All that the Sokovia Accord would do at this point would result in more innocent casualties and more collateral damage while the Avengers drown in red tape; it's not like they would do anything different than what they're currently doing once they get there.

[@SuperfieldCrUn]

Naxiro Dark I don't really get that feeling. I didn't see Man of Steel, but from what I've heard, Superman didn't really care what he had to destroy in order to take down Zod. The Avengers try their best to mitigate damage, while obviously valuing life over property. It's not quite a comparable situation when the same amount of damage occurs during a face-off between two people and a full-on invasion of a major city by a military force.

[@ThundagaMage]

I saw this movie 3 times. The Thursday night premier, I saw it Friday night because it was my Dads birthday and I saw it Saturday for my best friends birthday. All 3 times I loved it

[@96kidbuu]

Ted may need to see the tunnel scene again. They were going at LEAST 55mph. Also, I'm guessing he doesn't know much about BP but basically, he's enhanced magically by the previous bearers of the title (his ancestors) and has all of their knowledge and fighting experience.

[@Lokai777]

i'm probrably the only person who thinks zemo is one of the better villians in the mcu movies second only to ultron. his motives while standard they are quite sad and he is just a regular guy yet he did the most damage to the avengers. he divided them. its just a shame other villians in the mcu can't be as good as ultron and zemo.

[@Jesturd63]

You know what other movie falls apart at the seams when you think about it some, especially when it comes to the villain's plan? The Dark Knight.

[@LegendsP137]

This was best marvel movie in a long time. I founded Age of Ultron to be a okay movie but this was the better Avengers movie without it being a Avengers movie. Zemo was villian was kinda not needed at all. The whole 5 other winter soldiers plot was kinda pointless in the long run. Captain America point of view was kind of underplayed. IronMan's point of view was explained more and had more screen time about it. So I felt more for Ironman then I did Captain. Ant Man, Spiderman, and Black Panther stole the show. Tom Holland's Spiderman is one of the best version since Sam Raimi's movies. Black Panther was the best part of the movie. I'm shocked he was as flashed out as he was in the movie. Seeing as he didn't have his movie to do it.

[@ardain984]

I'm assuming Zemo is the guy they couldn't remember at the start of the vid?

[@weirdotzero7065]

Mavel Studios: Let's see how many times we can say "Sh*t" in a Disney Movie.

[@clairebit]

The answer is two.

[@weirdotzero7065]

+Matthew McGrath wrong. according to IMDB, Civil War used sh*t 5 times.

[@stackup5278]

+WeirdoTZero I remember spider man saying it once and Hawkeye saying it once

[@PKspectre]

"Since we did a podcast on Batman v Superman, let's do a podcast on Marvel's Batman v Superman!" oh okay

[@maxacorn]

am i the only one who remembers that thor left earth after "age of ultron" and was no longer on earth when this went down? but good stuff, guys.

[@tyratooOP]

Nah I remembered. I don't think it's that easy to forget. I think it was a very noticeable scene.

[@LREHAnimation]

"I can't run 20 MPH!" "Well... you're not physically fit." "YOU DON'T KNOW THAT!" I. Fucking. Died.

[@kaimcdragonfist4803]

Unpopular opinion....I didn't like Winter Soldier much. I made the mistake of letting everybody's high praise sort of get in the way of me enjoying it (since everyone surrounding me kept saying it was the best superhero movie of all time).

[@Joshiesgotagun]

Same here.

[@theminingbat]

Cap's motivations are rooted in The Winter Soldier. If you saw the 2014 film The Winter Soldier, you would know that Cap has trust issues with government oversight because of the Hydra problem. So to me his motivations make total sense and were developed enough in his own movie.

[@Daftotron]

"Here's your shield, Captain America!"

[@spacekeno4435]

"...and since we did a podcast on Batman v. Superman, let's do a podcast on Marvel's Batman v. Superman!" ~Description

[@Cass1521]

I went into the film thinking I was going to be Team Cap, but I actually ended up being Team Iron Man, despite the film's attempts to push toward Cap. I wish I'd gone into it with Johnny's "no sides right" mentality. I think my viewing experience would've been better if I'd had that perspective. I LOVED this Spider-Man, he was perfectly cast. I can see how he wouldn't add much to the plot, but he gave a humorous, up-and-coming vibe to the film that I appreciate. I wish Hawk-Eye's motive for his decisions would've been better shown rather than him being a chatter-box. Overall, this podcast has a lot of great points I didn't consider, is fair & fun, and makes me want to re-watch the film.

[@MetalSonic98]

first the rebel taxi podcast and now this man I'm getting my fill Johnny today :D

[@SouprSpookr]

This is the second podcast with Johnny in it that I've seen today!

[@manidavis4126]

Rebel taxi

[@NeverwascooL]

dude im still surprised that he sounds EXACTLY like the ultimate spider-man cartoon version, super amazing

[@Kisaru1000]

...Huh, when Ted was talking about re-watching movies, his thoughts are the exact opposite of mine. I can watch the first Avengers over and over again without it losing that spark, but if I so much as think about the Force Awakens, it gets weaker and weaker in my eyes.

[@ArtsyFoxo]

Question: Why do people dislike the Marvel Civil War Comics? I haven't read much of them, but I heard that the event was okay.

[@ArtsyFoxo]

I actually looked at his channel a second ago. That thing is 5 hours long though. lol

[@comicking428]

"Andrew Garfield was a great Spider-Man in a mediocre set of film, and I wouldn't mind if he was given another shot!" Definitely agree with you there Johnny. I think Marvel should do a Spider-Verse or Shattered Dimensions movie to bring back some of the older actors. Maguire as Noir Spider-Man and Garfield as 2099 Spider-Man.

[@weirdotzero7065]

I forgot to mention this. This has one of (if not the) best Stan Lee cameo Ever.

[@MrStokes]

"TABLE FOR ONE........Mr.stank"

[@TheMaddogg96]

Deadpool was his best cameo to me

[@weirdotzero7065]

GaaraOfTheSand That's my second favorite. Third would be Avengers: Age of Ultron.

[@ultimateshadeofwar]

50:49 From Kevin Feige, to the writers of Civil War, they have been saying, if you are going to watch a Marvel movie, from now own, if you didn't watched the previous movies, prepare to be confuse, because they have a story that, it is being build through the different Marvel movies, and they can't keep being newcomers friendly forever, if they want the stories to progress at a good pace.

[@ThePonderer]

Also I totally disagree about Zemo being a weak villai. I loved him, frankly.

[@HubPie3]

+The Ponderer Me too. I still like the badass Zemo, but I loved this new take on him. His motivation was completely justified, and I liked that they didn't kill him off. Maybe he can come back? I'd like to see that.

[@ThePonderer]

Hub Pie The Russos have made it clear they have plans for him

[@Axxidous]

I like watching videos like these. I really do. I just hate how human nature is to be in the moment and forget everything afterwards. I won't defend BvS but I saw another video where they were trying to find out why certain things happened and acted like they couldn't figure it out or like a reason was never given and I'm like "Yeah…. there is a reason. .-. Did you watch the movie?" Same thing here. I feel like Cap's side is already backed up both by his previous experiences and by his current experience THROUGHOUT this movie. Why didn't they blow up the jet hanger? Because they're not trying to be "Criminals" too. They're trying to "take in" Cap and his team. Tony isn't going to listen to Steve about his parents death when he's in the moment. And this is predictable considering the movie displays his massive guilt for the death of others, including looking up the specific person the woman by the elevator mentioned because he probably agrees with her and blames himself as well even if he shouldn't. He's projecting the same ideal onto Bucky. While Cap is basically fighting against being controlled by someone with an agenda while trying to save his friend from being controlled by someone with an agenda and then being blamed for it and taken in by Tony which is exactly what will happen TO Tony and everyone else if they sign the papers and end up doing something they disapprove of that the rest of the world dislikes as well. Cap is being wise as hell, yo. :L

[@Nuvendil]

Yeah, I agree about the BvS thing. They act like the fight had no reason explained but it was perfectly well explained. Batman saw the destruction Superman could cause when he had to fight someone who was his equal and concluded he was too great a risk to keep alive. Cause if he is a hero a thousand thousand times but the villain just once, the world is doomed. It's an incredibly jaded and cynical perspective but the movie does hint that this is a Batman severely changed by past tragedies, namely Robin's death. Plus he is fed some misinformation to make things worse.

[@theomnigamer9177]

Black Panther abilities from the Wakandan Gods I believe, sort of Mythological empowerment.

[@Spawnus]

In the hulk movie Banner says oh shit when falling to the ground while trying to transform to the Hulk

[@siljeff2708]

To be fair with Cap's reasoning, Captain America: The Winter Soldier did explain: he saw first hand that governments can be dangerous because they can have bad motivations (especially if they are infiltrated by Hydra)

[@ItsMichaelReid]

Loved you in the Pizza Party Podcast Johnny! It took you a while though!!!

[@BlackBirdGuardian]

I'm Team Iron Man all day, every day!

[@themojogamer75]

I as well. :)

[@kingofthebis1068]

I dissagree

[@TrueGinjaNinjaGamer]

46:00 Oh my gosh! I am glad you guys noticed the shaky cam as well! I thought it was just me

[@AllMightyLantern]

The thing about Cap's motives is that he saw what happens when a government abuses their authority in winter soldier and that power ends up falling in the wrong hands that made him resistant to the sokovia accords.

[@TheGreenPandaGamer]

This was actually my first marvel movie (Spider-Man is enough to get me into any theatre seat) and I personally really enjoyed. My friend who is very well versed on the other movies tried to explain everything to me and while I didn't understand all of it I did understand enough to throughly enjoy this movie. So if you have a way of understanding what happened before this movie then this movie is a great way to learn about all these characters.

[@Bobb11881]

I saw a comic strip about this movie where Steve tries to calm Tony down after he finds out the truth by reminding him that both of their best friends are named James.

[@ThEuNdYiNg1]

Captain america is the only way to go. When someone is offered freedom as compared to chains, they must always pick freedom. That was the point captain america was trying to make, the avengers have to be the ones to decide because governments suck at their jobs.

[@foolboyv5]

I don't think they hyped up Caps point of view as much because freedom is something humans naturally want, so they will naturally gravitate towards that reasoning, Iron Man wants restriction, which is something that NEEDS expanding on so we understand why this change needs to be.

[@Bobb11881]

Thor actually went back to Asgard at the end of Avengers 2, and they confirmed that Banner will help him in Ragnarok, so that's why they're not there.

[@UncleSilverGaming]

I don't understand why this was labeled a Captain America movie. Really, it was The Avengers: Civil War.

[@WhipplyWorld]

The microphone quality for everyone here is way better than it usually is.

[@ultimateshadeofwar]

7:53 Not only that, but the movie, it is constantly *showing you*, how each side acts through a situation that Cap mention when they talked about it. What's Cap doing mainly through the movie? Going after Zemo which was the master mind behind the attack to the first *official* meeting between the UN to talk about what to do with the Avengers. What does Tony does until Zemo gives him a big "i did the attack"? Goes after Cap just like the UN wanted him to do, and have in mind, that just like Cap discover that there was something wrong between the Zemo and Bucky, Tony could have discover this if he wasn't following orders... So yeah, just think about this and tell me, does Cap needs to speak more, or are his and Tony's actions proving, the point that Cap was trying to make.

[@SShaBazzz]

I really regret not seeing Antman because I'm hearing it was really good.

[@themojogamer75]

Same here. I loved the character in Civil War

[@SShaBazzz]

+Mojo Kor to be honest. Antman and spiderman really stole the show along with Black Panther. especially when Antman was running on that white bubble wrap thing when he was small. it looked so intense on Antman's close up but when it goes to regular view. it was just hilarious.

[@themojogamer75]

+SShaBazzz "I THOUGHT IT WAS A WATER TRUCK! SHIT!X

[@SShaBazzz]

Mojo Kor it looked like bubble wrap but it might have been a water truck. Point is that's one of the most memorable scenes in the movie. Really funny.

[@SShaBazzz]

the reason I really liked this film was for the simple fact that this has been coming for a very long time. Ironman and Captain America have never seen eye to eye and the fact they are the main ones butting heads is a great thing.

[@pelgervampireduck]

for me it felt like "avengers civil war", I think they should have used the avengers name, it felt more avengers-y than age of ultron.

[@bumpndump9643]

one question, Stan lee appears in the movie?

[@dylanhernandez4097]

yeaa, he does

[@GetHigh420pk]

Yes he delivers mail to Tony Stark and reads his name Tony Stank ._.

[@MrStokes]

"table for one mister stank"

[@TheSkully343]

+gamehead3119 Mr Stank?

[@codenamezq8027]

Why not blow up the plane? Because in the movie about try to prevent collateral damage, of which Tony is bent on preventing, he would go out of his way to carelessly blow up a plane.

[@theBlazethecatfanboy]

I sadly left at the credits... Id of stayed if it was just me, but I was with my uncle who doesnt know about post credit scenes... plus I was tired, and after Avengers 2, which had no post credits scene, I just assumed that there wouldnt be one

[@goldmemberpb]

I really enjoyed this movie. While it does fall apart a little bit under scrutiny, it still has that winter soldier feel and balances the humor, drama, and action really well. Zemo definitely could have been better and the romance with Cap was kinda freaky considering it's his GF's niece. This is easily a 8.5-9 out of 10 for me

[@hachitora]

It took me half an hour of looking at this picture to notice Ant-man on Cap's shield...

[@ultimateshadeofwar]

11:20 She basically, depending on if her power want it or not, they can go from being able to completely change the reality(just look at the House of M story) to bravely hold something. They *really fluctuate*

[@Bobb11881]

I think Zemo is actually the strongest villain the MCU has had so far. I love what they did with him, with how he knows he can't beat the Avengers so he had to make them kill each other. It's genius. I think it's far better than just another generic supervillain who wants to take over the world. It's also much better than having them team up at the end to face a greater threat like a certain other superhero fight movie.

[@donkeykong75m]

Its funny at the beginning You all mention Steven and Tony playing Connect 4. I just saw an Avengers themed game of Trouble in my store today.

[@The810kid]

Zemo's family dying in sokovia made his motivation more justified. Age of ultron was the event that was on the avengers. The chitauri invasion wasn't on the avengers nor was the destruction in the winter soldier that was hydra. Wouldn't make sense for Zemo to have that same hatred.

[@dapperultron1784]

Thaddeus Ross? You mispronounced Red Hulk. Whoops.

[@MasonOfLife]

The whole movie is great, almost perfectly paced, lean and emotional, and exciting and fun and dramatic. Like I understand if you don’t enjoy it completely but this movie is just phenomenal

[@selder_7]

Spoilers: Yeh I knew that winter soldier killed Stark's parents at the start of the film, knew it would be them. But I didn't realise that Zemo was drawing them there to show stark that I did think he was going for the other winter soldiers so that was a great twist

[@TheWraithOfMooCow]

I think we can all agree that this beats the shit out of the original Civil War comics.

[@DamianSabre]

You'd be surprised. My friend was very adamant about how much she loved the comics, and she thought this was a mess. Don't think she straight up hated it, but even still.

[@swanpride]

Honestly, were you doing something else while watching the movie? 1. Cap's reasoning is that they would just shuffle the responsibility to someone else, and that said someone else might have an agenda - understandable considering what happened in The Winter soldier. And, as Sam points out, there is a danger that "oversight" turns into "control"...which is btw EXACTLY what happens in Civil War. 2. What happens on the Tarmac is a chess game. Team Cap has an helicopter there. Team Iron Man arrived in a plane. First move is Cap pretending that he tries to reach the heli. The first confrontation happen, during which Cap looses his shield. But he was prepared for this and had Ant-man hidden in the shield. While he distracts team Tony, his team figures out where Team Tony has their plane, and once he knows it, they all run for it. But Tony has kind of prepared for this and has Vision stationed to guard the plane (so really, why should they blow up their own plane when the most powerful being of the universe is guarding it), so Vision stops the team. Then the actual fight happens, which ends when Giant-man finally manages to distract Vision enough that Cap and Bucky can slip by him.

[@jmb72390]

every time I watch that fight between iron man vs cap I keep hearing the theme of anakin vs obi wan from ep3

[@ultimateshadeofwar]

34:24 Here i disagree, not in the fact that it is underwhelming, in the fact that him being the main bad guy wasn't the important thing. Zemo was the trigger to everything, the trigger of the Civil War, the trigger for Iron Man to coming, the trigger to the final fight. This was the point that they want him to be, Zemo sadly was a sacrificed. But i still think that he could be a bit savage in the next movie, than he would have a better chance.

[@selder_7]

This film does good for Hawkeye, I didn't realise his super power was that he can't miss so like he says when he plays golf he gets a hole in one every time. Which is more interesting than just oh he's really good with a bow

[@Bobb11881]

They technically brought up Quicksilver's death when Hawkeye says he "owes a debt".

[@AdmiralOctopus]

Oh shit, I completely forgot Martin Freeman was even in this film. I guess that shows how small his role was.

[@Fleetw00d]

Overall, loved the movie despite it's shortcomings. I do think however that I loved the movie more for what it represented: getting to see a whole bunch of superheroes on the big screen. Seeing everything come together made me way more happy than what the movie itself involved.

[@Bluedino152]

I still subscribe to the theory that Mandarin was actually the actor guy playing everyone.

[@Auster9376]

Zemo at first I thought was the weakest part of the movie, but what makes him stand out the most is he actually accomplished his goal: He broke apart the Avengers.

[@MaxNMotion]

50:40 You guys give a lot of crap onto characters like Spidey and Panther for being unnecessary, but to be honest, this movie was much more entertaining and marvelous (heh) with them included. It also adds to audiences' future interest in future phase 3 movies like Spider-Man Homecoming, Ant-Man and the Wasp, and Black Panther.

[@doomkrieg3817]

+MaxSpeed Now the new Ant-Man movie will confuse me cause apparently Janet Pym is dead. Who the fuck is gonna be Wasp exactly?

[@MaxNMotion]

DOOM Krieg Hank Pym's daughter...they revealed her as the Wasp in Ant-Man's first after credit scene.

[@doomkrieg3817]

Ah I see. Well I guess that isn't necessarily a bad thing then. I can get behind that. Since they are not exactly staying with the exact ideas of the comics. But with what is coming up I think it will be rather enjoyable. Thankfully.

[@raymondbenito1405]

Isn't Zemo the only MCU Villain who currently isn't known to have died within the context of the film, except Loki? When do you think they will bring him back

[@TubiTuesdays]

Martin Frreeman's character is from Black Panther they're just introducing him here.

[@LegonAvannor]

This was an amazing podcast John, thank you, but I would like more podcasts in the future at a slightly more consistent pace, like 1-2 every week or so. Still agree with you saying the cam was shaky in the beginning of the movie and many characters were underused(i.e. spiderman). I'm surprised you haven't done a STAR WARS episode VII podcast yet.

[@ismaelreyna5399]

The entirety of Winter Solder explained Cap's side though..

[@IceBreakerXY]

the Mandarin twist is like the best part of iron man 3