Silverback Gorilla & His Frail Elderly Female | The Shabani's Group

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@klmoll
@klmoll 3 күн бұрын
This is normal behavior when a member of the troop is Ill. They know something is wrong but they do know she needs to get up to live. In the wild, to be sick,lie down for a long period of time is not a good sign to the gorillas. They are processing this new behaviors. Please be kind everyone.😮
@CarolBravo-ls3dg
@CarolBravo-ls3dg Күн бұрын
I disagree, they know exactly what they're doing.. To say they're intelligent creatures on one hand then explain away this by claiming ignorance, I'm not buying it...just my opinion of course
@Debbie-u6q
@Debbie-u6q 6 күн бұрын
Can't find the adequate words to describe how I felt watching this, but so grateful for the wonderful video work that keeps everyone who loves Nene updated ❤️
@Greylock21
@Greylock21 3 күн бұрын
Yes it does not leave me as far away as I am in Massachusetts. I love Nene and all caregivers who are experiencing this right next to her. Thank you for each touch and every hug for our beautiful Nene. Right out of the Aftican jungles. I'd love to learn her whole history. She is a true female gorilla. Thank you for loving Nene. 🦍 🥒🥒🥬🫑🍇
@sayswho9127
@sayswho9127 7 күн бұрын
All of us here in support of Nene probably need to adjust to the fact that she might not be here when the gorillas re-open… I love Nene! 😢
@pigtailsandteddybears
@pigtailsandteddybears 7 күн бұрын
That freaking kills me. 😓
@Sheryl777
@Sheryl777 7 күн бұрын
@sayswho9127 True. 😢
@BlackandProud350
@BlackandProud350 7 күн бұрын
@@sayswho9127 😢😢😢😢
@trishna944
@trishna944 7 күн бұрын
You just made me cry:(
@Sheryl777
@Sheryl777 7 күн бұрын
@@trishna944 ❤
@pamcunningham9608
@pamcunningham9608 6 күн бұрын
My heart is broken, and I'm in tears watching this. I know Nene was never a particularly "nice" gorilla, but she can't be blamed for her personality nor for doing the things that come naturally to gorillas. I have to agree with the people commenting that this appears to be close to Nene's end, she is weak, has very little appetite, and isn't responding to the troop's efforts to rouse her. As one of the last wild-caught gorillas in captivity, she will always be special to me. Most of her choices were stolen from her, but she lived her life the way she wanted as much as possible. Nene, my lovely, feisty old lady, I wish you a peaceful end to your pain. Your legacy lives on, although I will miss your cranky, droopy-lipped face. I would gently hold you or just sit with you as long as possible, but since I can't I hope somehow you can feel all the love we have for you. ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
@gailrossholland6149
@gailrossholland6149 4 күн бұрын
Beautifully said.😢
@KMichealElite.
@KMichealElite. 2 күн бұрын
Nice that humans continue to put these and other animals forced into captivity, humans did this to them and continue to put a male gorilla with a female gorilla in the same enclosure so they mate and breed is absolutely disgusting extremely terrible... yet they keep doing it, and alot of comments are people saying that they hope kiyomasa gets a good female or that annie gets a good male or people hope annie gets put with gentaro, all this absolute nonsense,, people actually comment those things,, look at gorilla haoko, a silverback that is constantly submitting his own daughter gorillas pinning them to the ground mating them even to the point where the young male son gorilla riki attempts to stay behind haoko trying to stop him from mating and cross breeding, but its all that happens in gorilla captivity , constant cross breeding, zoos will actually put the female gorillas on birth control its incredibly insane!! I mean jesus.... yet we keep doing it them, watching them suffer through all types of insane situations that are very hard to watch, seeing how unintelligent most if not all of the captive silverbacks are.. because of human captivity. This world we live in is disgusting.
@ComputerSaysNope
@ComputerSaysNope Күн бұрын
Pam, you spoke exactly how I feel. Bless her heart. I would love to just cradle her and comfort her (even tho she would probably hate it 😂) ❤love you so much NeNe honey❤
@nancym5814
@nancym5814 6 күн бұрын
Exactly how I feel. Shabani is not trying to hurt her. He's trying to rouse her back to normal. This is what animals do at times. If he wanted to do her harm he would!! I too fear when they reopen we may not have our precious Nene. I'm so heartbroken for her, her family and staff. ❤️🕊😢❤️
@brynjones7371
@brynjones7371 7 күн бұрын
These gorillas are so loving it makes you want to weep. Shabani is scared she's passing away and just like humans he's panicking and trying to rouse her because he doesn't want her to die. Xxx
@Elsie-b2k
@Elsie-b2k 7 күн бұрын
Why won't they help her? Like fix her leg or move her
@bigboytoyz541
@bigboytoyz541 6 күн бұрын
​@@Elsie-b2kthis isn't her leg. She has stopped eating and has severe diarrhea and full body weakness. That doesn't come from leg pain. She is fading away, and probably won't be here for more than a week.
@angeresists5493
@angeresists5493 6 күн бұрын
I know, even Annie who Nene has treated horribly is worried about her. It's sad because as far as I know, none of the gorillas have ever experienced a family death, so this is going to be very tough to get through for all of them...
@angelahartman3272
@angelahartman3272 6 күн бұрын
​@@Elsie-b2kThere isn't anything they can do for her, other than keep her comfortable. Her body is old and shutting down. It's super sad but it's just part of life.
@brianlupton4185
@brianlupton4185 6 күн бұрын
Actually from what I read in an earlier video comment; only Nene and Ai have experienced Death, Nene's first husband, Ai's father!!!​@@angeresists5493
@xGlarewolfx
@xGlarewolfx 6 күн бұрын
This actually made me cry. She is his FIRST love. He has spent all of his adult life in love with her. He just doesn't understand what's going on or how to react. He just wants to see some life in her so he attacks to get some sort of response. Poor Shabani. They need to isolate her so her last moments aren't spent in fear of him.
@deea7348
@deea7348 6 күн бұрын
Another ridiculous response. Shabani means to hurt not play, the thinning of the herd (troop). No longer any use to the troop
@xGlarewolfx
@xGlarewolfx 6 күн бұрын
@@deea7348 You don't understand gorillas. They are curious... not brutal. You are thinking of big cats.
@SomethingAboutGorillas
@SomethingAboutGorillas 6 күн бұрын
She has hardly walked for the past week and her legs are becoming weak. But, Currently, the zoo is ensuring Nene's safety and providing her with medical attention and food.
@brookejones6777
@brookejones6777 6 күн бұрын
​@SomethingAboutGorillas Then please get her away from the other gorillas. If you were this sick, you wouldn't want to be bothered
@mmaphilosophy
@mmaphilosophy 6 күн бұрын
​@@brookejones6777 This channel has nothing to do with the zoo or zookeepers. It's just a person who goes there to record footage and posts it on here
@angelahartman3272
@angelahartman3272 6 күн бұрын
Last summer I had to bring my dad home on hospice to die. The process, the decline, looked very similar to what we are seeing with Nene. It's hard to watch & harder yet to say goodbye but dying is a part of life that all of us will have to face someday. I hate seeing the others picking on her but I have a feeling their intention isn't to be mean, rather to try and fire her up & get her moving. Whatever the future holds for Nene, I only hope that she is surrounded by love, comfort & peace. If she is unable to come back from this, I hope those same things for her family, gorilla & the humans that take care of her. God bless you, Nene. 💕🙏💕
@pigtailsandteddybears
@pigtailsandteddybears 6 күн бұрын
I hope I'm not being too intrusive but I'm so sorry about what you went through. I hope you and your family have been able to at least hang in there. ❤❤❤
@lunarminx
@lunarminx 4 күн бұрын
Agreed, we sat with my mother the day she died, a sister when she activated her advance directives to be removed off of life supporting means. Michelle passed the same day as Robin Williams. I had a hospice patient pass during a sponge bath. My sister Michelle sat with her husband. This age of pretending death is horrible is so weird, we all will die and most in old age.
@ZombieQueen819
@ZombieQueen819 7 күн бұрын
I’m not a animal doctor 😢😢 I don’t know that much about gorillas 🦍.. In my humble opinion Shabani is trying to get Nene up and about😊😊 He is doing his best to not let anyone fight, attack, or aggravate her… Shabani LOVES his family troop and that’s why I love the best Silverback ever ❤❤❤SHABANI❤❤❤
@lesliewallace9665
@lesliewallace9665 7 күн бұрын
@@ZombieQueen819 agreed. Shabani is doing everything he can. What a tough time for the family
@pigtailsandteddybears
@pigtailsandteddybears 6 күн бұрын
Very well said.
@ZombieQueen819
@ZombieQueen819 6 күн бұрын
@@lesliewallace9665 it has to be horrible for them all ,,, But my poor grumpy old ladybug Nene I pray she gets over what ever this maybe 🙏🙏🙏🙏
@ZombieQueen819
@ZombieQueen819 6 күн бұрын
@@pigtailsandteddybears Thank you ☺️
@ChavezIleana
@ChavezIleana 14 сағат бұрын
Has the vet checked her yet?
@4iliPalmer
@4iliPalmer 7 күн бұрын
Shabz and Anny dont try to hurt Nene,theyre just trying to make her move. Gorillas are nomadic species in nature if im not wrong, they constantly moving except for sleeping time. Gorilla which cant move - is dead gorilla, maybe in their heads. And all these pushes worked in the end,Nene has begun to eat.
@lesliewallace9665
@lesliewallace9665 7 күн бұрын
@@4iliPalmer agree! I hadn't thought of that but I believe you are correct
@siliza6124
@siliza6124 6 күн бұрын
It was the hardest video I've seen 😢. Seeing Nene all curled up, fragile like a defenseless child and Shabani, Annie and Kiyomasa disturbing, pushing, how difficult it is to see 😪
@christianedelon477
@christianedelon477 5 күн бұрын
😔😔😔
@Danielleb723
@Danielleb723 7 күн бұрын
As soon as Nene sat up and ate a few bites it brought an immediate calmness to the group. They are such an amazing family. If one of the group members are down than the whole group is down. I hope Nene will recover completely. I'm hope its just that she is elderly and maybe her immune system isn't as strong as it used to be.
@deea7348
@deea7348 6 күн бұрын
Are you serious?
@annefinlayson6021
@annefinlayson6021 7 күн бұрын
I find this too sad to watch. It looks to me like Nene is living out her last days and God willing, she won't have to suffer long. I wish they would move her to somewhere quieter and more comfortable but that may not be what she needs. God Bless little Nene, with love. 🙏❤
@Janadu
@Janadu 6 күн бұрын
In the wild she would probably crawl off to some private place to pass peacefully. Such is common in the animal kingdom. It almost looks as if she's trying to let go, but the other members keep harassing her. It's painful to watch this.
@carri2241
@carri2241 6 күн бұрын
At the very least get her off of the cold hard floor..
@michelefred68
@michelefred68 6 күн бұрын
She needs to be with her family
@victoriarash4417
@victoriarash4417 7 күн бұрын
I have adored Nene and love her. She's always been my favorite. She is an old gal now. Are they sure it's just her leg and not her age . If Nene goes it will be a very, very sad day. Love you Nene I pray that you get better quickly
@bigboytoyz541
@bigboytoyz541 6 күн бұрын
It's not her leg. She is dying.
@angelahartman3272
@angelahartman3272 6 күн бұрын
I don't think it's her leg, either.
@pigtailsandteddybears
@pigtailsandteddybears 6 күн бұрын
I'm with the commenter's above me. I just wish we all could've had sassy Nene for a little while longer.
@beautifuldisaster139
@beautifuldisaster139 2 күн бұрын
she’s just gotta heal just like us we are blah when sick or injured she’ll recover
@celiablythe-washington3960
@celiablythe-washington3960 7 күн бұрын
Shabani Refuses For Nene To Give Up 😞 That’s Why I Believe He Is Doing All This 🥲 Prayers For Nene🙏🏽❤️
@lesliewallace9665
@lesliewallace9665 7 күн бұрын
@@celiablythe-washington3960 agree!! Even Annie is trying hard to get Nene up and responding
@fukyu-q6z2024
@fukyu-q6z2024 7 күн бұрын
Agreed!!!! They can definitely see Nene not doing well. Even Annie always bully her knows something isn’t right. They are trying hard for Nene to keep going, eat, move, get up. That’s just Gorillas way. Ppl says to get her see vet but I think they already have and doing something to help her but if this is age decline there isn’t much they can do. Ppl also said to isolate Nene. Isolation isn’t good idea for Nene or others. They are family they should be together. Nene comes to the area they are at because she wants to be. If she doesn’t then she’ll stay basement.
@GoriBeringeifan332
@GoriBeringeifan332 5 күн бұрын
I'm in tears here. I should know better than hope for a miraculous recovery, but that's what I'll keep in mind, because there's no such thing as having too many of these beautiful, majestic creatures being happy and healthy, to bring grace to this very ugly world.
@GodChild1970
@GodChild1970 7 күн бұрын
I feel so sad for Shabani! He has to watch for everything and everyone. But he has to watch NeNe slowly decline. He’s trying to keep her alive! I love the Shabani family. However, nene is tired and in pain, and I believe she’s entering into her final stages. This deeply saddens me ❤
@justbreathe_
@justbreathe_ 5 күн бұрын
Shabani and Annie may not be malicious but Nene is frail, unwell, and wants to be left alone. Ai seems to be the one that understands this the most. She shows concern but doesn’t push
@sylvie2519
@sylvie2519 5 күн бұрын
yes. Ai has always been the quiet observant kind daughter. I dont think Annie and Shabani is malicious either. They are trying to get her to move. But she is too injured at this point and I dont think they understand this.
@dueranasimp4ever
@dueranasimp4ever 7 күн бұрын
sad seeing the elderly injured gorilla sleeping on the hard concrete. surely that is not comfortable for her.
@kellyalexander7473
@kellyalexander7473 7 күн бұрын
I agree. In the wild they sleep in tall grasses and make soft beds for themselves. Concrete is cold and HARD.
@aquarianlight1880
@aquarianlight1880 6 күн бұрын
Its not good for their bones either especially all the wear and tear from climbing and jumping off onto
@staceyrogers4958
@staceyrogers4958 6 күн бұрын
I keep complaining about it on the zoos twitter/x page but no response. Not sure who to contact.
@peterlondon2217
@peterlondon2217 3 күн бұрын
This zoo is a joke, why isn’t she is a hospital all being cared for in isolation….which zoo is this ?
@elizabethstops2362
@elizabethstops2362 2 күн бұрын
Why is Nene left on this hard floor? If her condition is fragile, why isn't she placed somewhere where the vetenarians can take care of her ?
@thor573
@thor573 7 күн бұрын
I hope Nene has a nice warm and comfy nest to rest in. She seems cold. It is hard to watch what gorilla do out of anxiety. I don't think they are hurting but rather trying to get her to move. What happened? Why can't she walk? Prayers for this sweet lady ❤
@dulciemidwinter1925
@dulciemidwinter1925 6 күн бұрын
It's about time they gave these animals somewhere softer to lie. A cold, hard floor is not a forest floor. It's really bad!
@kaylie8580
@kaylie8580 6 күн бұрын
Let’s not bring negativity towards the other gorillas in the comments, they are all stressed in a unnatural environment! Sending positive vibes for Nene and the troop to feel better!
@sylvie2519
@sylvie2519 6 күн бұрын
yes. I dont feel the gorillas are mean spirited. They are in an unnatural environment. And they try to get Nene to get up. They dont know she is injured and in pain. She lays on that concrete because I suspect it hurts to move. I saw her Fall from above and injure her head, eye and the left wrist was from a week ago. I would like dignity for Nene
@kaylie8580
@kaylie8580 6 күн бұрын
@@sylvie2519 I agree! They love Nene and seem worried about her. They want to play so their messing with her to get a chase going lol. She’s too weak now, physically and mentally. I think them constantly trying to get her riled up helped her as she got older because she was constantly moving or running, but that doesn’t seem like it’s going to help her now with her injuries. I just hope the zoo keepers are able to make her as comfortable as possible for the rest of her time here❤️
@lunarminx
@lunarminx 4 күн бұрын
​@@sylvie2519actually animals know when someone is sick and in pain. They just don't want her to give up yet.
@cornishmaid9138
@cornishmaid9138 2 күн бұрын
She needs to be removed, for goodness sake. Even if it is ‘natural’ behaviour, she shouldn’t have to suffer. She peed herself during one scuffle. Give her some dignity and protection.
@kaylie8580
@kaylie8580 2 күн бұрын
@@cornishmaid9138 I think they did give her some time alone recently, keeping her inside and letting the others go outside.
@KathyJo.
@KathyJo. 7 күн бұрын
Oh Nene…. At the very least they could isolate her so she can live her last days in peace. God bless, old girl 🥺💕💕💕
@jujubegold
@jujubegold 7 күн бұрын
I agree but I also believe the troop needs to understand the process and have closure if the worse should happen.
@annemariemcnamara8756
@annemariemcnamara8756 7 күн бұрын
Isolation isn’t the key, that will kill her and affect the troupe. They move as one. What affects one affects all, I think the zoo professionals know what they are doing
@KathyJo.
@KathyJo. 7 күн бұрын
@@jujubegoldI think she deserves peace and comfort if these are her last days, much more than the others need to understand anything. They are animals and we’ve no idea what they are thinking or their motives for harassing Nene like they’ve been doing. For all we know, they could very well understand she is dying and they are making attempts in hurrying it along. Nene is the matriarch of this family and she deserves to be treated as such, not hit and pushed and dragged along the floor
@ClearlyCards
@ClearlyCards 7 күн бұрын
I agree completely!!!
@jujubegold
@jujubegold 6 күн бұрын
@@KathyJo. absolutely. She needs a safe place to pass if that is what’s happening.
@cottonswoods
@cottonswoods 7 күн бұрын
God bless Nene!
@christybennett3116
@christybennett3116 4 күн бұрын
Awe Nene What a fierce Mother,🎀
@famouslegend3649
@famouslegend3649 7 күн бұрын
They should leave Nene alone with her daughter Ai. She's the only one who really loves her And she always treats her with respect. I felt like crying when I saw her looking at her. That's true love
@WilliamCurry-bh3dk
@WilliamCurry-bh3dk 6 күн бұрын
HER son dont love her ???
@kaylie8580
@kaylie8580 6 күн бұрын
They all love her, they each have different relationships with her.
@SomethingAboutGorillas
@SomethingAboutGorillas 6 күн бұрын
Currently, the zoo is ensuring Nene's safety and providing her with medical attention and food.
@KINGPHANTOMw85
@KINGPHANTOMw85 15 сағат бұрын
that is not true at all the hell
@nancym5814
@nancym5814 7 күн бұрын
This absolutely breaks my heart. I am so sad they have to close the exhibit but I totally get it. I think the family is naturally upset and maybe slapping at Nene in hopes of rousing her. Our precious Nene!! I love her so much. Thank you to the medical staff for your plans to let her have peace. I also hope she and her family can still be in close proximity but at safe distance. I will deeply miss not seeing them everyday. Thank you Mr. G for your updates. ❤️❤️🕊🕊🕊❤️❤️
@DanielC__
@DanielC__ 6 күн бұрын
Annie has been harassing Nene for ages so she’s not doing anything from a loving perspective. She’s dragged Kiyo into it as well but his intentions are probably more loving.
@kaylie8580
@kaylie8580 6 күн бұрын
@@DanielC__ How has Annie dragged Kiyo into it? I swear y’all turn every situation into it being Annie’s fault. Please stop putting human emotions and characteristics onto them. Annie and Kiyo have not been able to go outside and are probably bored. Their worried about Nene but their also antsy and probably want to get Nene to chase them like she usually does.
@brookejones6777
@brookejones6777 6 күн бұрын
​@@DanielC__Exactly 💯
@DanielC__
@DanielC__ 6 күн бұрын
@@kaylie8580 He's just mimicking Annie, like most primates. Really has nothing to do with human emotions whatsoever. It's as natural as can be for a primate to imitate , copy, emulate, etc of a sibling/parent or other primate. Not surprising he's now hassling Nene. What surprises me is how much Shabani is hitting her and wrestling her on the ground. She screams about it and the Zoo does nothing. Shabani should be protecting her, not joining in on beating her up!
@jonathanbarber213
@jonathanbarber213 7 күн бұрын
This video is hard to watch. Annie and Shabani trying to rouse Nene to move but clearly her hip/leg is in very bad condition . Sadly, to my untrained eyes, it looks like Nene is slowly fading away until she passes from this life. Godspeed
@lesliewallace9665
@lesliewallace9665 7 күн бұрын
I completely agree with your comment. I'm surprised at Annie's reaction to all this. In my viewpoint, Annie seems very concerned.
@bambisco7056
@bambisco7056 7 күн бұрын
@@jonathanbarber213 I think so too 😭 I've seen animals behaving like her when they're approaching their end. Low motivation to do anything, including eat, and just laying anywhere waiting for time to pass.
@christianedelon477
@christianedelon477 7 күн бұрын
Malheureusement, c'est vrai, notre pauvre Néné est en train de s'éteindre sous nos yeux et c'est très dur d'en être témoin
@karrieshireman8858
@karrieshireman8858 7 күн бұрын
Is there nothing they can do for her?
@nathanbowman1574
@nathanbowman1574 7 күн бұрын
​@@karrieshireman8858She's in her 50s. She's lived a long life for a gorilla. It's sad to witness but it's just her old age. 😢
@Pica2u
@Pica2u 7 күн бұрын
Honestly, this video is extremely hard to watch. It is clear that Nene is near her time and is very frail. It looks like she has maybe had a stroke. I don’t know why they can’t separate her for her safety. It very clear she can barely move and is in pain. This is just heart breaking.
@AlisonBlythe
@AlisonBlythe 6 күн бұрын
I didn’t see your earlier post and have more or less said the same.The zookeepers need to take some action.Very upsetting to watch.
@Pica2u
@Pica2u 6 күн бұрын
@@AlisonBlythe it’s hard to see, as humans we have empathy, clearly they don’t know how to handle the situation and the keepers really should step in.
@SomethingAboutGorillas
@SomethingAboutGorillas 6 күн бұрын
Currently, the zoo is ensuring Nene's safety and providing her with medical attention and food.
@brookejones6777
@brookejones6777 6 күн бұрын
I bet her leg is broken, too😢
@ТатьянаВасильева-л1ы
@ТатьянаВасильева-л1ы 7 күн бұрын
I think that Shabani is trying his best to get Nene to move, not to lie down, he is very worried about what is happening, and Nene, it seems to me, has a distortion on the right side of her face, perhaps something like a stroke or a heart attack
@denisemorris1177
@denisemorris1177 7 күн бұрын
I think the troop are doing this try and get Nene to get up and move. She’s just lying there on the floor. Heal Nene!❤❤
@mentayflor
@mentayflor 7 күн бұрын
Ellos siguen su instinto. En algunas especies cuando alguno del grupo actua raro los demas lo atacan. Quizas la naturaleza asi evite que se reproduzcan los débiles y enfermos
@angeresists5493
@angeresists5493 6 күн бұрын
Yes, that's eactly what they're doing....
@sylvie2519
@sylvie2519 6 күн бұрын
@@mentayflor I feel Shabani and Annie just want to get Nene moving. Neither one of these gorillas has dealth with death. They sense something and are very anxious pacing. Now Genki at Kyoto she witnessed 3 gorillas close to her die. Her mother Hiromi, , Gon and Biju at another zoo in Japan. So she has experience and is a much calmer gorilla. When Momotaro got sick she remained calm for the boys. She had alot of tragedy in her life and very strong. I think Nene is the only one that experienced death. When Ricky died, Ais dad. So it is something new and they want Nene to get up but they dont realize how injured she is. That fall when she hit her head injured her right eye, right hip that was already sore. She is in pain.That is why she does not move much. They need to put her on a soft bed, not concrete, give her pain medication and palliative care in a large dwellingwhere she is in view of her family If the family cannot see her they will go crazy. If by some miracle she survives that would be great. But consider her age, her injuries and elderly take a long time to hear. I would like to see Ai stay close to her. She loves her mom and it was touching to see Nene touch Ai's face and hold hands. I even saw a video where Ai massaged Nenes back. That was very sweet. Ai seems so quiet but she is a sweetheart.
@karrengalway1842
@karrengalway1842 6 күн бұрын
Ai is so sweet and gentle toward Nene. I love them both.
@strangerlovesgorillas
@strangerlovesgorillas 7 күн бұрын
They try to get a reaction from Nene. Gorillas first have to learn to understand an unknown situation and how to deal with it. They have never experienced a situation like this and don't understand what is going on. Nene behaves completely differently and certainly smells different due to her poor state of health. There is a zoo in Germany where an older female died shortly after a new silverback joined the troop. They left her body with the gorillas for a while. The females understood what had happened because they experienced death when the old silverback died. The new silverback had not yet experienced death and tried to get a reaction from her. He even jumped on her body and hit her on the stomach. The literature describes an increase in agonistic or aggressive behavior in the group in such a situation. I'm not saying that Nene will die. I hope she will get better. I'm just trying to explain the behavior based on what I've read
@lm9991
@lm9991 6 күн бұрын
Thank you! I think in the wild too a gorilla can slip away from the group with herself or a daughter and live out the remaining time alone.
@strangerlovesgorillas
@strangerlovesgorillas 6 күн бұрын
@@lm9991 You are welcome 💛. Yes, that's true. I once found an article about the death of gorillas in the wild and it says, and I quote: ``These observations provide some new data points for researchers who are investigating gorilla behavior, but it still remains unclear how common these interactions with corpses are. Gorillas who are sick and injured often leave the group to die alone, or they are abandoned when they can no longer keep up. We have a lot to learn about when and why animals choose to stay with a corpse, how social relationships between individuals and the deceased affect the behavioral responses.´´
@SomethingAboutGorillas
@SomethingAboutGorillas 6 күн бұрын
Thanks for giving us useful information. Currently, the zoo is ensuring Nene's safety and providing her with medical attention and food.
@strangerlovesgorillas
@strangerlovesgorillas 5 күн бұрын
@@lm9991 I had already replied to you yesterday, but the comment was apparently not let through by youtube. I hope it works this time.... . You're welcome 💛💛. Yes, you're right. I once read about this in an article regarding the death of gorillas in the wild. It said that sick and injured gorillas often leave the group to die alone, or they are abandoned when they can no longer keep up.
@strangerlovesgorillas
@strangerlovesgorillas 5 күн бұрын
@@SomethingAboutGorillas You're welcome. Thank you for your work and the videos 🙏💜! The zookeepers are certainly doing everything they can for Nene. I hope that her condition improves. ❤
@VA4LVRS
@VA4LVRS 7 күн бұрын
They are trying to get her to move, don’t think they are being mean, they’re worried
@sonyawilson1000
@sonyawilson1000 7 күн бұрын
Since this video was taken Nene is doing a bit better, and has regained her appetite, and as of September 9th she even looked a bit better. Zoo staff closed the outside habitat because it is easier to monitor Nene inside. She's at a high risk of falling, as I believe she already has (her eye is swollen). Zoo staff have been feeding Nene food that she likes to eat, as well as food that is high in water content like bananas, cucumber and tomatoes because she was a bit dehydrated, and is why she has 💩 diarrhea. We have to keep in mind NONE of the gorillas in this troop have dealt with a situation such as this, Nene being so sick. 4:45, 14:50 We've never seen Annie and Shabani react this way. Shabani is stressed out to no end, and is severely worried about Nene. 12:45 Shabani IS NOT attacking Nene. 15:35 He wants Nene to get up! He's in panic mode here. 16:04 So does Kiyomasa (but his way of expressing to his mom that he wants her to get up is extreme and hard to watch). What we are seeing is gorilla anxiety at its highest. The entire troop is stressed to the max, anxious and worried. These are gorillas, and not human, and their way of expressing concern by displaying IS troubling. It doesn't make sense that Annie is attacking Nene, and then 0:32 we see Annie showing concern, and checking Nene's anal glands. 19:40 Ai and Annie come to check on Nene again. I am glad the zoo made an announcement to close the gorilla habitat for now. The zoo has been flooded with phone calls from fans about Nene's condition. The entire troop needs intervention, and stress management while Nene is treated for her illness. It may be best to separate Nene from the troop until she gets better, and the troop's stress levels are back to normal.
@GlamourGallor
@GlamourGallor 7 күн бұрын
That is what I believe to be happening as well. Thank you!!! Well said. The gorillas are stressed out! I don't know what people expect, Shabani to walk up to Nene and ask her to get up like a human 🙄. One must understand how gorillas communicate, and then one must understand that this troop is bewildered as to Nene's condition. Everyone is mimicking Shabani, and then when that happens Shabani is scolding everyone else to keep away from Nene. I am also glad the habitat is close to viewing. The troop needs privacy, and help coping with this situation with Nene.
@LipStickGlaze
@LipStickGlaze 7 күн бұрын
Shabani bless his heart. He is panicked seeing Nene lying on the floor probably afraid she is passing away right before his very eyes. He is trying to arouse her to get up. One would say Nene is being beaten. I say that Shabani is afraid, and very concern. It's the equivalent of a human walking up to another human, and vigorously shaking them, "Wake up! Breathe!" "Don't leave us please!" 😢
@leticiacirio2743
@leticiacirio2743 7 күн бұрын
exact!!
@PrimateLady
@PrimateLady 7 күн бұрын
The zoo staff and vet are separating Nene until around noon each day to monitor her, treat her illness, administer meds, and feed her a special diet. I hope her diarrhea clears up, but I think somebody said she is eating foods high in water content to treat dehydration, and to get her to eat her favorite foods like tomatoes. I do wonder what her x-rays and blood work are showing. Hope she is healing and making progress getting well.
@leticiacirio2743
@leticiacirio2743 7 күн бұрын
@@GlamourGallor Bravo!!
@Danielleb723
@Danielleb723 7 күн бұрын
Gorillas are amazing. They are superior to humans in many ways except humans are more cut throat and superior intellectually maybe. But their emotions are so strong as is their bond with each other. Im sure its not an easy situation to deal with for the keepers as well. I hope Nene will recover soon and if it is her time I hope it is peaceful. This gorilla family is loved internationally.
@pigtailsandteddybears
@pigtailsandteddybears 6 күн бұрын
Beautifully said!❤
@SomethingAboutGorillas
@SomethingAboutGorillas 6 күн бұрын
Currently, the zoo is ensuring Nene's safety and providing her with medical attention and food.
@Erin-hc4yx
@Erin-hc4yx 7 күн бұрын
Another poster yesterday said the gorilla exhibit will close beginning today, Sept 10, for an unspecified period of time. Obviously due to Nene's condition. Hugs and kisses Nene.
@SomethingAboutGorillas
@SomethingAboutGorillas 6 күн бұрын
Currently, the zoo is ensuring Nene's safety and providing her with medical attention and food.
@brookejones6777
@brookejones6777 6 күн бұрын
They will continue doing this. We will not know. They don't want us to see. They know how upset we are. They would have kept it opened and moved Nene to a safe place
@Eeohippus
@Eeohippus 7 күн бұрын
The way that she's holding her limbs as she sits, and do you notice her lip and the right side of her face are slightly contorted. I wonder if she's had some kind of stroke or something
@serendipity937
@serendipity937 7 күн бұрын
yes, she had a little stroke. Mr Gori talked with the zoo keepers
@GrandRegentSScratch
@GrandRegentSScratch 7 күн бұрын
@@Eeohippus she had a stroke when Annie threw her off a ledge, I think half of her face is paralyzed unfortunately.😢
@victoriarash4417
@victoriarash4417 7 күн бұрын
I really don't like Annie. Never have and this just confirms for me why I don't. Why don't you let her go in peace zoo keepers. This is not right. You are filming this for U-tube and that is just wrong. You might say it's the way of the wild but they are in a zoo not the wild. Remove her from them and let her go in peace. U-tube isn't the place for this we hear you laughing in the background
@GrandRegentSScratch
@GrandRegentSScratch 7 күн бұрын
⁠@@victoriarash4417she’s a spoiled brat that thinks she can do whatever she wants, she has never gotten punished or even disciplined at that matter.
@user-gq7jh9gx1m
@user-gq7jh9gx1m 7 күн бұрын
​@@victoriarash4417  私はアニーが可哀想だと思う。 育児放棄で人口哺育で離され、 日本で初めての人口哺育での戻された。 しかしネネからの虐待でシャバーニに守ってもらう。 赤ちゃんのアニーは階段からネネに押され、数えきれないほど暴力。 5年間された。 虐待されない為に、強くなった事を見せ、 ゴリラは軽く殴り追いかけさせ、遊ぶ。 アニーは威嚇と怒らず追いかけて遊んでくれる事をネネに望んでいた。 しかしネネは孫だと認めず、自分の子供には怒らず、アニーには怒ってしまう。  ゴリラは軽く殴り追いかけさせる遊びをする。  しかしネネに対してやると殴ったと思われる。 私なら5年も殴られ、差別して怒る祖母を許さない。 近づかない。  しかしアニーはネネを心配している。 皆のゴリラが心配で食欲がおちた。  数日前飼育員が手渡しで餌をあげていた。  このゴリラは本気の喧嘩で食欲がなくなる事が多い。  シャバーニが守ってくれなかったら、ネネから殺されたアニー。  ネネの行いがされる理由。  家の老犬も足がやっと立てて下痢も3年も続き、 出血と腎臓が悪い。 立てない時もあった。 よく吐く。 老化は自然で完全には治らない。  ネネはゴリラのやり方、起きろ!食べて!と殴ったように見えるが違う。 ゴリラのやり方を知らないと暴力だと思ってしまうのが悔しい。
@staceyrogers4958
@staceyrogers4958 6 күн бұрын
They could at least give her some straw to make a soft bed instead of lying on a hard concrete floor 😢
@VA4LVRS
@VA4LVRS 7 күн бұрын
If they remove her it could make things worse, we don’t know how shabani will react, maybe put her where he can see her ❤❤
@kaylie8580
@kaylie8580 6 күн бұрын
That’s true, he would be really worried and stressed.
@bmanbusee3812
@bmanbusee3812 7 күн бұрын
Unfortunate as I said before about the decline. I’m no expert but looks like nene lost a lot of weight and the males are getting agitated. Trying everything they can to get her energy up and move around. Will see what happens when the exhibit reopens
@lisaharms9387
@lisaharms9387 Күн бұрын
May God keep them happy and Safe ...And may God keep Nene with him❤❤❤❤
@bertcabasares4633
@bertcabasares4633 6 күн бұрын
God bless you Nene!
@bluefish5112
@bluefish5112 7 күн бұрын
This is hard to watch. Making me cry. I think she might be on her last days.😢 Love NeNe.❤ Oh, thank God she's eating! Why is Shabani shoving her? Is there a reason why? Kiyomasa is doing it, too!
@stljoiee
@stljoiee 6 күн бұрын
He is trying to get a reaction. We have all seen pathetic creeping Nene become fierce and running fast when angry….to protect Kiyomasa or Ai. She has never been gentle with Annie, yet Annie is showing concern.
@chika-zx2sb
@chika-zx2sb 7 күн бұрын
動画配信ありがとうございます。 20分間涙が止まらなかったです。 こんなネネさんに何をしているのかととても辛かったけど、シャバーニたちは弱っていくネネさんの現実が受け入れられずにパニックになり、必死で呼びかけているような気がしてきました。『立ち上がって怒ってよ❗️』と。現実的には傷付けてしまっているかもしれませんが、それくらい必死なんだと思います。みんな苦しんでいるから、みんな食欲がないのだと思います。 ネネさんはあれだけ叩かれた後なのに、急にパクパクとナスを食べていたのが印象的でした。 ネネさんにも、他のゴリラたちにも、平和が戻りますように。
@SomethingAboutGorillas
@SomethingAboutGorillas 7 күн бұрын
私もシャバーニは弱っていくネネを鼓舞しているように感じました。 今は食事をきちんととってると聞いてひと安心です😮‍💨
@karolineharuno7733
@karolineharuno7733 7 күн бұрын
Siiim ele estava fazendo isso para ela reagir😢
@智子大下
@智子大下 7 күн бұрын
ネネさん、食べてますね!! うれしい動画ありがとうございます! なんとかがんばってほしいです。
@jamierae7405
@jamierae7405 6 күн бұрын
Why aren’t these beautiful animals outside in an enclosure? They need fresh air and grass. They eat food off the cement floor where they void their urine!!!
@karenclare4241
@karenclare4241 7 күн бұрын
Ai is lovely isn’t she ❤
@GrandRegentSScratch
@GrandRegentSScratch 7 күн бұрын
Beautiful Ai❤️🦍
@1morenobody
@1morenobody 6 күн бұрын
I agree. I love her full dark coat. Very pretty.
@jxflem5588
@jxflem5588 6 күн бұрын
What is AI doing all the way up?she needs to help her mother nene with eating 😂 ❤
@sylvie2519
@sylvie2519 6 күн бұрын
Yes. Ai is the quiet one with the kind heart.
@Zaros1337
@Zaros1337 6 күн бұрын
Good to see Nene eating again. I hope she starts getting better. ❤
@abby4647
@abby4647 7 күн бұрын
She might pull through this but remember she is 52 years old in gorilla years and like 102 in human years. Eventually, although sad, she will pass away from old age. She was born in 1972 in the wild. She’s had two baby gorillas, has a granddaughter she didn’t want. So, maybe it’s time. It will be very sad, but maybe AI will go into estrus and have another little nene.
@SomethingAboutGorillas
@SomethingAboutGorillas 6 күн бұрын
Currently, the zoo is ensuring Nene's safety and providing her with medical attention and food.
@Leothelion-fr8xp
@Leothelion-fr8xp 3 күн бұрын
Sadly, I agree with the previous comment. Poor Nene seems to my untrained eye to be going the way of all flesh; as is true of us and all living things… I hope she had a happy life.❤
@pamcansler6960
@pamcansler6960 7 күн бұрын
This was a hard video to watch. I do not know gorilla’s when they die but I do know humans and she is displaying the same body language. She is lying in a fetal position at times trying to protect herself. Shabani and Annie are doing what is natural trying to get a reaction that they have always done and NeNe always fights back when she can. They are learning. And if notice she got up each time and attempted to eat. These animals are smart. Very interesting and if watch you will learn. They are smelling something different. I know a lot of people see this as torture but it isn’t. They are learning. Now AI seems to know what is going on and she wants to investigate alone not to trigger anything else. Shabani is protecting from Kio because he knows he is stronger. Let’s leave this to the professionals they know what’s best. Removing her could possibly be bad for the troop. Let them deal with this naturally. I pray for all and NeNe has suffered enough and she is ready but the troop isn’t that is why you see them pushing her. Prayers for all. ❤🙏🏼❤
@SomethingAboutGorillas
@SomethingAboutGorillas 6 күн бұрын
Currently, the zoo is ensuring Nene's safety and providing her with medical attention and food.
@CaseyNahan
@CaseyNahan 7 күн бұрын
It appears that the kids are upset and sad regarding Grammy,they just want her to feel better and running by and tapping her is their way to deal with her ,they are clearly sad ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
@SomethingAboutGorillas
@SomethingAboutGorillas 6 күн бұрын
Currently, the zoo is ensuring Nene's safety and providing her with medical attention and food.
@CaseyNahan
@CaseyNahan 5 күн бұрын
@@SomethingAboutGorillas I have no doubt of this ,you folks are giving her and the rest of this lovely family ,steer the course Nene queen of this family of western low-land folks , I call them folks because I feel they deserve it ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️I understand how injured hips are very painful, I played ice hockey for many years , I was injured before the tryouts for the 1980 miracle on ice that beat the Russians ,my coaches told me that I had a real good chance of taking a spot as one top defensive player,I definitely understand how our hips can be very painful when injured
@ditassaplan
@ditassaplan 7 күн бұрын
Separating her from the family means she will die alone. The rest of the family are showing her they are there instead of just ignoring her.
@SomethingAboutGorillas
@SomethingAboutGorillas 6 күн бұрын
Currently, the zoo is ensuring Nene's safety and providing her with medical attention and food.
@sylvie2519
@sylvie2519 6 күн бұрын
When Momotaro got sick at Kyoto both of his young sons were listless and when the zoo keepers allowed the boys to see Momotaro as he was recovering Kintaro was able to squeeze through the open gate and lay next to him. The boys then started to eat again and recover. They missed their troop leader dad. So it is possible to give Nene a soft bed in a dwelling where the troop can see her and she still can rest without the troops interference. In Nene's situation she can be viewed but I dont think it is wise to keep and open gate. She needs to rest without being on guard. And though the Troop dont intend to hurt her. They swat at her to get her up and move. Sad they dont realize she is too injured and weak to get up. Kind palliative care. Soft bed, pain medications. any soft food she likes if she can eat. I love Nene. She has been my favorite and I remember one person called her grumpy lady bug. She is so petite and does remind me of a lady bug. And I endear her even when she is grumpy. Much love
@Bella_Rose.2023
@Bella_Rose.2023 6 күн бұрын
Do you know that for sure??​@@SomethingAboutGorillas
@brookejones6777
@brookejones6777 5 күн бұрын
Momo and sons, probably had a virus. That's why they got better at the same time
@CaseyNahan
@CaseyNahan 7 күн бұрын
The pain that this wonderful lady must endure ,❤️❤️❤️❤️🇯🇵🇯🇵🇯🇵🇯🇵🇯🇵🇯🇵
@bxchicc7799
@bxchicc7799 6 күн бұрын
I just wanna cry right now. I love Nene very much, but it looks like she's dying. Shabani is very stressed out and I feel bad for all of them. Please make Queen Nene comfortable. I understand that Gorillas grieve a bit differently than us. I am praying that Nene heals and praying for the whole troop. Sending so much love from NYC ❤🦍
@davenbrandon7311
@davenbrandon7311 12 сағат бұрын
Queen nene big love to you gal❤
@cricket9629
@cricket9629 7 күн бұрын
WTF! Is this zoo going to keep allowing Shabani and Annie to just beat her until she is dead? TAKE NENE OUT, NOW! She needs rest, medical attention and Peace!
@GrandRegentSScratch
@GrandRegentSScratch 7 күн бұрын
@@cricket9629 it’s horrible and I cannot watch this family anymore😭.
@BlackandProud350
@BlackandProud350 7 күн бұрын
It looks like it.
@user-gq7jh9gx1m
@user-gq7jh9gx1m 7 күн бұрын
それは違う。 人間とは違うやり方、起きて、食べてとうながしているんだよ。  叩いているなら、食欲がおちない。 皆心配でイライラして、全員食欲がおちている。   ながくみているが、ほんとの 喧嘩するだけで食欲おちる家族。だから数日前に飼育員が皆に餌を手渡ししていた。  シャバーニのおしりがしおれて痩せた。 うながされたのでネネが食べてるので良くなるかもしれない。  人間のやり方と違うので、一つの行動だけで決めるのは間違い。  今までの行いをみれば、起きろ怒れ食べて!としてる事がわかる。  気持ちを良く見ないと悪い判断の意見が出てくる。
@TS-gr7vu
@TS-gr7vu 6 күн бұрын
​@@user-gq7jh9gx1m同じ見解です。起きて食べなさいという行動の表れだと感じました。人間ならば医者に行くと考えますが動物は食べて元気を取り戻すのみの選択です。心配から来ている行動だと思いました。歯がなく食欲がないネネさんに固形物はどうかとは思いますがその辺りの事や状況は飼育員、獣医師が把握対応していると思います。
@DanielC__
@DanielC__ 6 күн бұрын
What a heartbreaking sight. Laying on that cold floor out in the open seems brutal. Then you have to worry about Annie and Kiyo harassing her and now Shabani is treating her horribly. Yesterday he appeared upset with them but doesn’t get in-between to prevent it, now he’s just as guilty harassing the heck outta her. It’s just a sad sad situation.
@GaryO-cw3qy
@GaryO-cw3qy 7 күн бұрын
Father please heal our beloved Nene, I've known her for years. Love you ❤ Nene.
@aquarianlight1880
@aquarianlight1880 7 күн бұрын
This is heartbreaking the least they coul do is put ger in an isolated sleeping quarter with nesting matterials to keep her comfortable not on cold concrete Japan better get its act together.
@brookejones6777
@brookejones6777 5 күн бұрын
Exactly 💯
@LisaPFMoore
@LisaPFMoore 6 күн бұрын
The human banter and laughing is killimg me 😭
@wiesiawojcik796
@wiesiawojcik796 7 күн бұрын
I don't understand why the zoo director doesn't isolate Nene from her family members so she can peacefully depart this world...
@deea7348
@deea7348 7 күн бұрын
God Bless you
@brynjones7371
@brynjones7371 7 күн бұрын
Would a sick human family member be locked away to die, these gorillas are so loving and caring they feel the pain of a loved one passing just as we do. It's part of the cycle of life. X
@Middle-Road.Kim.K
@Middle-Road.Kim.K 6 күн бұрын
Not only would isolation confuse and scare Nene, but the troop would likely become aggressive towards the keepers trying to get Nene back in the fold of her family. As of today, they're all in the basement where keepers and vet(s) can monitor her closely.
@angelahartman3272
@angelahartman3272 6 күн бұрын
​@@brynjones7371Exactly! You explained it perfectly, thank you.
@SomethingAboutGorillas
@SomethingAboutGorillas 6 күн бұрын
Currently, the zoo is ensuring Nene's safety and providing her with medical attention and food.
@SomethingAboutGorillas
@SomethingAboutGorillas 7 күн бұрын
This video was taken on September 8, 2024. As of September 10, the gorillas are closed to the public, and the zoo is carefully managing their condition by trial and error, with keepers feeding them interesting foods while ensuring Nene's safety. As a result, they say Nene have developed an appetite and appears calmer than at first. Also, in my personal opinion about Shabani in this video, he did not seem to be seriously biting or hurting Nene. この動画は2024年9月8日に撮影したものです。 9月10日現在、ゴリラたちは非公開となり、動物園はネネの安全を確保しながら、飼育員が興味を引く食べ物を与えるなど試行錯誤し、注意深く体調管理をしているようです。これによりネネは、食欲も出てきて当初より落ち着いた様子が見られているようです。 またこの動画のシャバーニについて個人的見解ですが、彼は本気でネネを噛んで傷つけているようには見えませんでした。
@denisemorris1177
@denisemorris1177 7 күн бұрын
@@SomethingAboutGorillas Thank you for all the updates regarding Nene! The world just wants to get better and stronger. Glad she is eating. Thank you again!🙏🏼
@annemariemcnamara8756
@annemariemcnamara8756 7 күн бұрын
Honestly I always think he loved riling her to get her fiesty side out. This is what he loves about her and perhaps he was trying to get her moving to motivate. He has been nothing but supportive an protective so I don’t think it should be looked on in a negative way but he really needs to discipline Annie. There are a lot of communications they make that we do not understand
@denisemorris1177
@denisemorris1177 7 күн бұрын
@@annemariemcnamara8756 I do agree. Even with Annie, she was trying to get grandma to get up and chase her, but grandma wouldn’t. That day I can truly say that Annie was very much concerned.
@SolaKnitez53
@SolaKnitez53 6 күн бұрын
​@@annemariemcnamara8756it seems her left hand/wrist is broke..or severely sprained 😢. She must be in a lot of pain.😢
@seasonsofphilly1993
@seasonsofphilly1993 6 күн бұрын
I appreciate your update, but the zoo is not looking out for Nene's safety. We see that she can barely move and is dragging her leg. These keepers have no idea how to care for a geriatric gorilla...it's time they learn. Nene needs to be removed from her troop, so her leg/hip injury can be treated. I understand she is old, even for a gorilla in captivity. But, we can clearly see she is injured and suffering from malnutrition. She is unable to eat the foods they are throwing on the floor. I am angry and sad at this undignified treatment of Nene. Injured and laying in her own urine is not how Nene's life should end.
@DEEv82
@DEEv82 6 күн бұрын
❤❤❤If this is your final days, I'm so sorry. Love you Nene.❤❤❤
@MaddieR11
@MaddieR11 6 күн бұрын
Can't Nene be isolated during her dying days? It's brutal watching the others beat on her and bite her. It's unfair to her. I get they don't understand she's slowly dying, but it's time for the zoo staff to show her some MERCY.
@SomethingAboutGorillas
@SomethingAboutGorillas 6 күн бұрын
Currently, the zoo is ensuring Nene's safety and providing her with medical attention and food.
@sylvie2519
@sylvie2519 6 күн бұрын
Yes, Mercy, compassion, kindness, pain medication, soft bed, and soft foods if she chooses to eat. Water if she wants. She is dying, but let it be in comfort and let her family see her. There are ways for the family to see her while protecting her. Ahh. I feel for Shabani. This is his wife of many years. I look back and they had a very playful relationship.Shabani loved when Nene chased and barked at him. Similarly Shabanis brother Haiko loves his Momoka who had 4 children with him.
@brookejones6777
@brookejones6777 5 күн бұрын
Exactly 💯
@brookejones6777
@brookejones6777 5 күн бұрын
​@sylvie2519 yes, Hoako's wife was put in a shelter from him, while she got better
@klmoll
@klmoll 3 күн бұрын
They are not hurting her, they are trying to get her to get up.
@owllover813
@owllover813 4 күн бұрын
So sweet they are so concerned! Bless their hearts!!
@pattiwhite9575
@pattiwhite9575 7 күн бұрын
WTH? This zoo and the country have a responsibility to care for the animals. She is shutting down for some reason. She is fearful of the males. Is it mental? Does she have a medical issue? They need to pull her out and fully examine her. Give her a safe place to heal.
@aquarianlight1880
@aquarianlight1880 6 күн бұрын
This is exactly why other countries will not send their gorillas to Japan to breed. The standards are not even normal not the least high.
@brookejones6777
@brookejones6777 5 күн бұрын
Exactly 💯
@helengren9349
@helengren9349 7 күн бұрын
☝️Have vet's to check on her❗❗❗ bless You Nene❗🙏🌟🕊️
@brookejones6777
@brookejones6777 6 күн бұрын
Exactly 💯
@justruth1934
@justruth1934 6 күн бұрын
It is difficult to see Nene's health decline-both for us humans and for her gorilla family. I wish for Nene to have peace and if at all possible, healing. She will inevitably teach her family, the zoo staff and us viewers, about the dynamics of aging & ultimately death. ☮& 💜 to Nene.
@SomethingAboutGorillas
@SomethingAboutGorillas 6 күн бұрын
Currently, the zoo is ensuring Nene's safety and providing her with medical attention and food.
@barbarahathorn9744
@barbarahathorn9744 5 күн бұрын
I think the keepers are allowing the troupe to experience her decline and demise so they can grieve appropriately. They will then understand when she is not with them any longer and be able to move on without her.
@bigboytoyz541
@bigboytoyz541 6 күн бұрын
This just goes to show you how much videographers hide from you. They only show what they want. This happened two days ago and no other channel has shown this. Unfortunately I don't think nene is going to recover from this, we have seen it before. But the zoo needs to figure out another way to handle this, or just put her to sleep and save her the torture. It's ridiculous for them to let her suffer while she is already sick and fading.
@SomethingAboutGorillas
@SomethingAboutGorillas 6 күн бұрын
Currently, the zoo is ensuring Nene's safety and providing her with medical attention and food.
@Sacha10461
@Sacha10461 7 күн бұрын
Should separate her, so she can either rest and heal or transition. Feel it's cruel.
@tammydowell94
@tammydowell94 7 күн бұрын
Almost everyone in comments saying Nene is going to die......................no she's not she's going to get better and fight this crap and flourish she will be just fine !!
@SomethingAboutGorillas
@SomethingAboutGorillas 6 күн бұрын
Currently, the zoo is ensuring Nene's safety and providing her with medical attention and food.
@sandraphillips1718
@sandraphillips1718 6 күн бұрын
Every troop member is attacking Nene except for Ai. 😢
@rosied.johnson
@rosied.johnson 7 күн бұрын
this is pretty sad to watch, she looks tired, poor thing. 😪
@koookimama
@koookimama 7 күн бұрын
朝からキヨマサがネネさんにしつこくて。シャバーニがネネさんを必死に守ってるのが凄かったです。前日まですごく心配そうにみてたのに、なぜこの日はあんなことをしたのか😞
@SomethingAboutGorillas
@SomethingAboutGorillas 7 күн бұрын
シャバーニも状況が良くならないことが不安なんでしょうね。。
@Pray925
@Pray925 7 күн бұрын
They want her up and moving and that’s the only way they know how to rouse her! Annie is just being mean that’s why Shabani chased her away! He is the troop leader and he wants her to move around instinct tells them that she cannot stay down like that!
@karolineharuno7733
@karolineharuno7733 7 күн бұрын
Acho que ele estava se comportando assim para ver se ela reage😢​@@SomethingAboutGorillas
@ssims498
@ssims498 Күн бұрын
Awww Cute Ringo. Even in a dream Ringo is sweet 😇
@ForestGirlTeresa
@ForestGirlTeresa 7 күн бұрын
Nene is very old for a gorilla, and perhaps she is nearing her time. That’s part of life, but the others don’t seem to be handling it well. I wonder how wild gorillas act when a member of their troop is ill? It is distressing to see Shabani and the others harass her. The only one who isn’t is Ai, but she’s not supporting her mother either, like she’s done in the past, until 19:07. I hope the break from public viewing resolves some issues. 😢
@sylvie2519
@sylvie2519 6 күн бұрын
I watched Momotaro at Kyoto when he was sick and his two sons who were young stopped eating because Momotaro was isolated from them. When the zoo allowed the boys to see their dad they started to eat again and recover. Genki a strong mom has experienced all kinds of tragedy and loss and took it in stride. She was the rock for the family Beautiful families deal with sickness and possibly death in different ways. But I do believe they grieve. I saw two gorillas in the wild stay near their silverback dad who died. They hooted and made alot of noise and eventually had to move on with the troop. Some people say gorillas dont have feeling. I beg to differ..They process things differently than humans but they do have a strong family bond.
@tentang_gorila
@tentang_gorila 7 күн бұрын
I hope Nene be healthy 😢
@LynnAnn1960
@LynnAnn1960 7 күн бұрын
Poor nene might be dyeing 😢😢😢 and the other's can since it , this is so sad...😢😢😢
@sunflowers8508
@sunflowers8508 6 күн бұрын
I think Nene is headed to the gorilla heavens soon. She is amazing. Much love to the Shabani troop. 🦍🤍🖤
@staceycooper1086
@staceycooper1086 7 күн бұрын
Why is Nene not in a vet office instead of in the exhibit where obviously she is being bothered ny Shabani and Annie?
@dlakoba4459
@dlakoba4459 7 күн бұрын
I don’t think I can watch any longer 😢pitiful 😢sad
@juliajohnson6022
@juliajohnson6022 7 күн бұрын
@@tefjamzz8358, that’s stupid. It’s part of life.🥺🇺🇸
@tefjamzz8358
@tefjamzz8358 7 күн бұрын
@@juliajohnson6022 Call It What You Want I Can't Watch Nene Get Treated Like That Anymore U Can Be Cold 🥶 Hearted But I'm Not Good Day 2 U
@deea7348
@deea7348 7 күн бұрын
@@juliajohnson6022you have no humanly feelings. Would you like to be slowly and literally killed. That’s a part of life? The keepers should definitely separate her and keep her safe as she passes on. Maybe in the wild this is common behavior to kill the weak, but she is in a zoo….😢
@deea7348
@deea7348 7 күн бұрын
Fed up with abuse of a sick animal as I have a heart. Unsubscribing.
@CookieWoods.
@CookieWoods. 7 күн бұрын
@@juliajohnson6022 would you speak so candidly about it if it was one of your living breathing relatives! 🙄
@lm9991
@lm9991 6 күн бұрын
I think they are trying to rouse her. That and their fear and distress over the situation. It is interesting that she does sit up and eat after an attack. If they wanted to really hurt her they could. It is hard for humans, because we don't communicate in the same way. Blessings dear Nene and the Shabani family. 💚
@sandraphillips1718
@sandraphillips1718 5 күн бұрын
Prayers for Nene! ❤❤❤😢
@tyeishamcbride7127
@tyeishamcbride7127 6 күн бұрын
This is heartbreaking 😢 I love nene ❤I’m so hoping she gets better, but…. In the meantime , even if they mean well and are wanting het to get up it’s time to allow her to have some peace please. Separate her!
@BioTransXX
@BioTransXX 6 күн бұрын
Omg Shabani attacked her then Annie joined in. Wtf are the zoo keepers doing…
@klmoll
@klmoll 3 күн бұрын
They are NOT attacking her. They are trying to get her up. They only know laying like she is serious for a gorilla and they want her up like normal. They are stressed to see an elderly member of their troop Ill.
@staceyrogers4958
@staceyrogers4958 6 күн бұрын
How can the zoo staff leave Nene like this? It’s heartbreaking 💔
@thesummerof1968
@thesummerof1968 3 күн бұрын
Shabani and Annie are so concerned for Nene, they're trying to snap her out of being ill. It's very sad to watch. The troop won't eat until Nene starts eating. I'm hoping Nene will get back to her old self soon. This troop does everything together like no other troop I've watched. They are very close to each other. Ai was sweet coming up to Nene and watching her eat.
@XSmoke-A-Lot-gv4sl
@XSmoke-A-Lot-gv4sl 7 күн бұрын
Maybe Nene should be moved away from them her gums look swollen and Annie is making her submit to her by snatching her food and constantly bullying her she needs her own space people love her too not her fault poachers exist
@SomethingAboutGorillas
@SomethingAboutGorillas 6 күн бұрын
Currently, the zoo is ensuring Nene's safety and providing her with medical attention and food.
@XSmoke-A-Lot-gv4sl
@XSmoke-A-Lot-gv4sl 6 күн бұрын
@@SomethingAboutGorillasThat's great to hear I hope Nene will feel better soon.
@mayc8674
@mayc8674 15 сағат бұрын
Not trying to be mean but if dogs and cats can learn to potty train i would think it would be easier for Gorillas who are much smarter to train to use the bathroom away from their play area and /or eating area. I pray for Nene to get well again.
@stellaferrell8763
@stellaferrell8763 6 күн бұрын
Shabani he looks worried about Nene I think he's trying to get her to move around so is Annie
@user-mk7cg7ph8u
@user-mk7cg7ph8u 6 күн бұрын
Nene you are so pretty and precious ❤️
@kellyalexander7473
@kellyalexander7473 7 күн бұрын
Nene is being bullied and hurt by these gorilla's. Shouldn't they separate Nene into her own space where she can rest and not be terrified of being beaten and tossed around?
@kellyalexander7473
@kellyalexander7473 7 күн бұрын
I understand they aren't used to seeing one of their members ill or possibly dying of old age. It has them confused. Living in the wild, they would see this and be able to deal with it in a more, natural way. I feel Nene will pass soon and she needs some peace, away from the others. In an enclosure, there's no where for her to escape to. This is heartbreaking.
@MariaMarquez-yf3lr
@MariaMarquez-yf3lr 7 күн бұрын
Oh my gosh,the other gorilla 🦍 are bothering Nene,maybe she shouldn’t be around them,make her last days comfortable for her ❤ ,I don’t like seeing them trample her or hit her like that,poor Nene 😢
@womanofsubstance8735
@womanofsubstance8735 4 күн бұрын
Why are these animals living on CONCRETE FLOORS without straw, shavings, or even cloths that they can sit or LIE on to protect them from the CONCRETE FLOORS??!! Maybe Nene would choose to lie on a blanket or mat.
@sweetsue1971
@sweetsue1971 Күн бұрын
That's what I would like to know! Unless they do so in the basement
@evespector3972
@evespector3972 19 сағат бұрын
Seems like not a great place
@denisemorris1177
@denisemorris1177 7 күн бұрын
Shabani is being a bit too aggressive 😢
@deea7348
@deea7348 7 күн бұрын
Thank you, everyone seems to think that is him protecting her? He is thinning the troop
@Enthusiastic777
@Enthusiastic777 7 күн бұрын
He didn’t know what to do because he had no experience in this type of situation.
@GrandRegentSScratch
@GrandRegentSScratch 7 күн бұрын
@@deea7348 he is a bully and sick people think it’s ok.
@GrandRegentSScratch
@GrandRegentSScratch 7 күн бұрын
@@deea7348 you are right, he is a bully.
@denisemorris1177
@denisemorris1177 7 күн бұрын
@@Enthusiastic777 Think this maybe something all new to him too.
@victoriarash4417
@victoriarash4417 7 күн бұрын
I love AI she is so lovely and this is really bothering her. Watching Nene and also having to watch the others treat her this way.
@SomethingAboutGorillas
@SomethingAboutGorillas 6 күн бұрын
Currently, the zoo is ensuring Nene's safety and providing her with medical attention and food.
@sylvie2519
@sylvie2519 6 күн бұрын
@@SomethingAboutGorillas I appreciate your response but you must understand the videos dont show evidence that Nene's safety or medical care is provided. People are responding to what they see. And I dont see dignity laying on concrete and barely able to move. That's pain. I have a medical background and know what I see. Perhaps the zoo is making new choices on behalf of Nene. Lets see. The proof is in the pudding.
@zorro-thefrenchie
@zorro-thefrenchie 7 күн бұрын
vielen dank für die infos, auch ich mache mir sorgen um nene
@myknack79
@myknack79 6 күн бұрын
Very sad indeed. Unfortunately the rough handling will not help. They are all very stressed. AI is the only one with gentleness. 💔💔💔
@desireerose2861
@desireerose2861 6 күн бұрын
The only one not abusing her is Ai! This is shameful!!!
@may_laytrucker3127
@may_laytrucker3127 6 күн бұрын
Poor Nene I hope she's alright and gets better 🙏 shabani and Annie going crazy that she doesn't feel good 🥲 and playing with her that she gets her spirits back 😢
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