Sonic Frontiers Is Mid

UH OH, I EXPRESSED MY OPINION! D:
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Music used in order:
Conkers Bad Fur day - Windy co.
Sonic Lost World - Juice Archipelago
The Legend Of Zelda Breath Of The Wild - Riding (day)
Sonic Unleashed - Apotos (day)
Sonic Frontiers - Ares Island theme
Sonic Frontiers - Fishing with big
Sonic Unleashed - Spagonia (day)
Sonic Forces - Luminous forest

[@Adrian-hj7ih]

I think the best part for me is seeing people being more constructive about the game's problems than just shiting on it, it's cool to see that people liked it and want to see things going foward.

[@Adrian-hj7ih]

@Tax Evasion / OG Agent 4 Sonic Origins?

[@imdraculaspet9550]

Unless you're dunkey snsmsnsnsn

[@bubbleeater7192]

@@Adrian-hj7ih I'm sorry what did he say? The comment got yeeted and deleted

[@Adrian-hj7ih]

@@bubbleeater7192 Oh I don't remember but he mentioned the previous Sonic game released this year

[@Adrian-hj7ih]

@Tax Evasion / OG Agent 4 Ok now I get, fans were right to shit on this one LOL. Sega should handle their IP in the same way Nintendo handles Mario(for the most part...) and Sonic Frontiers apparently breaks this cycle of rushed games.

[@wardenwiththedrip6893]

A half decent sonic title is like the messia's second coming for us sonic fans. So i am very happy.

[@neaosmt1562]

This is very true this is one of the few times we get a w

[@majingamin]

L

[@apersoniguess_]

@@majingamin ok

[@77wolfblade]

I thought Sonic Mania was a good game.

[@Sydney_Angelyt]

@@77wolfblade that's the only good game since 2011-2012

[@imunoriginalokay4400]

But then sonic said, "this is my new frontier" 10/10 writing 🔥

[@giddyspiderboy]

Remember when sonic frontiered? That was the moment in sonic frontiers

[@bigboykenob2244]

Then sonic said “its frontiering time” and frontiered all over the enemies

[@bigboykenob2244]

Then sonic said “its frontiering time” and frontiered all over the enemies

[@nottoofast]

My favorite moment of the game was when Sonic said "Consider this your bad Frontiers!"

[@The_MikeM]

Bravo Vince

[@Fabled_Adventure_Girl_Kanna]

Honestly Sonic Frontiers feels more of a "landing on their feet" so they can start to make something better. Especially evident by the way they bring up so many pre-colors stuff and fleshing out character personalities that they used to have. Frontiers is good enough, positive experience 7/10 (because I enjoyed cyber space a bit more and didn't mind the story being kinda weak)

[@macjohniezuhaeus316]

Yeah I feel like the whole games goal was to do three things 1. Make a good game play style that MOSTLY everyone likes (it doesn't have to be the best thing ever it just has to work) so they can later work on it and improve 2. Show people coming to the Sonic series from the movies and new audiences that "hey look at all these things we can do in this game you might wan't to stay here" 3. Clear up the Sonic lore. Maybe its so the stories can get better, maybe it so something like Ken Penders dosen't happen again.

[@vingadivo8707]

Yeah man this is going to be a "step on the right direction" Just like pokemon Arceus right? Oh wait scarlet and violet sucks because these huge companies never learn.

[@genyakozlov1316]

@@vingadivo8707 Please tell me you aren't one of the people who was defending Cyberpunk 2077 at launch. That game is not seen as a "travesty" now despite bricking consoles, so why does Pokemon?

[@vingadivo8707]

@@genyakozlov1316 cyberpunk release was thrash and fixing it over a year later does not make it scamming players okay, Just because cyberpunk also did it doesn't make pokemon's bullshit any better. Also you're on some high level cope if you think gamefreak is gonna fix even 30% of the bugs, they are probably already chrunching to release the next rushed game.

[@bizzledrizzle_]

Sonic Team would have loved to do better on this game but sega didn’t give ‘em the time or the budget to do so

[@dummyfrompvz3131]

He went fast, I consider that a step in the right direction

[@brickabang]

Not the right direction when accidentally hitting a bounce pad.

[@decas5505]

You mean the game is playable? 10/10 game

[@veronicabermudez4802]

a quick one at that

[@stellarknight04]

But shouldn't games advance forward???

[@pafoneto1275]

Smartest sonic fan:

[@exotic1405]

The sonic franchise is like the guy who puts all his skill points in charisma

[@bubbleeater7192]

Can't do anything but somehow smoothtalk my way out of a shit game for the 50th time, SOMEHOW.

[@Eldoofus]

I feel ashamed of never reaching that conclusion as a fan of the series.

[@rustedcrabtm6438]

Unlike reigen arataka who also did that but had 10x as many skill points

[@elisabethsun7059]

@@Eldoofus same-

[@Squigga2]

You Sonic fans put the bar too low,I mean balan wonderworld had the same gimmick yet it was hated(for great and obvious reasons)by almost everyone,it was just a sonic game without the speed lol

[@loganharris7801]

My biggest nitpick is the world design. There's so many random structures with no rhyme or reason other than for sonic to traverse them. They look unnatural, like their placement was an afterthought to the environment. It feels especially dumb after I've played masterpieces like BOTW and Metroid Dread, which both can really make the world feel alive and cohesive.

[@-originalLemon-]

Sonic 1 and sonic 2 were the best

[@derple8524]

It's similar like FNAF Security Breach where the developers made the map first thinking it looked cool but last minute said, "OH SHIT, WE FORGOT TO MAKE THE GAME!!!" so that's why nothing feel cohesive in both these games cause instead of making stuff for the character to do, they made a pretty map

[@ReelSucks]

tbh i felt like they addressed that in one of the dialogues, saying that the land looked unnatural and lonely

[@technicolormischief-maker5683]

The hyperrealistic art design is a problem, but the placement of the grind rails and other such structures should stay in my opinion. Maybe a little more cohesive, but I like that the world wears its gaminess on its sleeve in a sea of immersion-first open world titles and think future Sonic games should lean further into that. That said, I didn’t play the game myself, so maybe you can take that opinion with a grain of salt. The friends I watched finish the game seem to agree with me though.

[@Ampharosite]

In what world is BOTW a masterpiece?

[@BiggiecheeseAKAgod]

A sonic game that doesn't completely suck ass is honestly a win in my opinion.

[@layonyatsu7203]

kinda sad but it's better than nothing

[@dr.ivorobotnik1]

and sonic finally uses hes eyebrows for emotions after a decade at this point

[@wishbushwashbosh6443]

So is lost world a W for you?

[@kha0ticdud3]

@@dr.ivorobotnik1 sonic has eyebrows?

[@victorvirgili4447]

@@wishbushwashbosh64431-If you’re talking about the gacha Touhou game it’s called Lost Word 2-Touhou had been nothing but bangers until then so not a W

[@potatoboy6094]

I think it’s very funny how everybody basically says the same thing, that the game is playable and decently alright, not great not terrible, and this by default turns it into the best 3D sonic game in the last 10 years

[@NiceuRiceu]

Considering Generations came out in 2011, this is unironically true

[@sla_2023]

It's terrible bro, just accept.

[@apersoniguess_]

@@sla_2023 it’s really not

[@TheAtomicDoggo]

i was looking through some of the cutscenes and all I was thinking was "this should've been a TV show or movie"

[@henrykado]

what does that even mean? like are you saying it shouldnt have a story or is it just a random observation

[@micaelpt801]

glad to always see a comment from my boy TheAtomicDoggo

[@TheAtomicDoggo]

​@@henrykado im saying that from *what i`ve seen*, the writing and production for the cutscenes had more love put into it than the game itself

[@TheAtomicDoggo]

@@micaelpt801 yoo micael pt

[@henrykado]

@@TheAtomicDoggo that makes more sense yeah

[@rift3068]

Say what you will about sonic, but he is the most tenacious video game mascot. After 2 decades of all of his games being either complete flops or mediocre, he’s still going strong

[@wishbushwashbosh6443]

He really shouldn’t say ALL of his games. The adventure games, advance trilogy, rush games, colors, generations, and mania were all generally well received critically. Even this game is getting general positive results critically. And I doubt that you’re talking about financially.

[@gamercentral2417]

“Mediocre” - average sonic “fan” who basically just hates on al the games

[@ferretappreciator]

@@gamercentral2417 cry about it

[@gamercentral2417]

@@ferretappreciator no

[@CaptainF123]

Classic fanboy over here.

[@alphetti4348]

Honestly wished they made the grind rails actually fit in their environment, like they did with the adventure titles

[@alphetti4348]

Honestly this game didn’t have style

[@dodsonboys]

It's like a test map for a fangame

[@alphetti4348]

@@dodsonboys ONG

[@AAAGamesMaster]

Imagine calling Sonic Adventure 2 "mid" and putting Lost World above Black Knight

[@imagery5425]

Imagine being correct. Couldn’t be me (I like SA2)

[@gwufff]

Black knight had banger music like any sonic game but uh.. yeaaaa...

[@pokapoka3686]

@@imagery5425 ngl I think sonic adventure 2 is overrated…. Sonics stages range from amazing (city escape, metal harbor), to okay (that pyramid one), and then actual trash (crazy gadget). However, the biggest issue in the games- it’s everyone else’s stages. Shadows stages are alright, tails’s sucks, knuckle’s sucks, eggman’s suck, rouge’s sucks, and it’s annoying that the dark side story gameplay is just a reskin of the hero side ones which seems really lazy (the game was rushed so I can’t blame the devs too much, but still).

[@imagery5425]

@@pokapoka3686 I openly admitted that I was in the wrong with that one. So yes, I DO know that the game is trash. I just like it anyway.

[@pokapoka3686]

@@imagery5425 Ik, I’m just saying I think it’s overrated… but yeah I like it too as well despite its very glaring flaws lol 😃

[@Luigi0909]

" Sonic frontiers is mid " that's the best thing I've heard about a sonic game in so long

[@yrrr4871]

ikr

[@KaiaBrodbecker]

It's pretty jank, but so far so good. Hope Sonic Team keeps improving on what they have.

[@tdenzel101]

it's up to Sega not sonic team.

[@Ezpeezy309]

Sega manages the game but sonic team makes them

[@mikoaj5002]

Literally me

[@srcoeiu6100]

Gonna try my best to not throw a fit over Foekoe calling all the good games bad fr

[@applegod7]

lol

[@unremainings]

Gotta admit the Hedgehog's music can be bangers sometimes.

[@theminecraft2516]

All the time

[@decas5505]

Sonic games has always the best music even if the game is completely poo

[@imagery5425]

@@decas5505 forces, eraser, lost world, boom, and chronicles are calling.

[@tigerguyTDS]

@@imagery5425 still they had good ost

[@invisisolation]

@@tigerguyTDS Mostly not really, but I disagree with him on Forces and Lost World. Forces had some great tracks but bad instrumentation for a portion of them, but the rest were still really good. Lost World's music might be a bit mid at times but still a lot of good stuff.

[@vitaleriof]

even for how janky frontiers feels at times, i'm glad we can agree scarlet and violet got hit way harder in the jank department some mf look like they are permatly stuck at 5 fps

[@maxweqill1435]

I’m glad that Sonic Team at least tried and put effort into making Sonic Frontiers. Can’t say the same for Pokémon Scarlet and Violet.

[@molluskcant6355]

The grind rail courses make this games world look like a halo reach forge map.

[@Subby_Fee]

-Puts SA 1, 2 and Unleashed on mid. -Puts Lost World there as well. My man, the only game there that arguably deserved the title "mid" is Heroes, other 3 are really good and Lost World is really bad.

[@fooxylol]

I can understand sa 1 kinda sorta, but 2 and unleashed? Those were peak. But le internet opinion so I'm not pressed that much.

[@ryantrusty8933]

@@fooxylol sa1 is better than sa2

[@Xross420]

@@ryantrusty8933 Now idk about that-

[@posstwo]

@@ryantrusty8933 Only in terms of level design and gameplay imo. The story, visuals, characters and Chao Garden are way better in SA2.

[@Aggron_Ghost1221]

Unleashed is peak gaming

[@deltadove741]

Man I really enjoy Frontiers, Only now going online and I seeing all of these "Massive Issues" and everything. People Like Dunkey make the game look intentionally awful to try and shit on it because it gets more views but atleast Foekoe gave it a fair chance and somewhat fair review.

[@wishbushwashbosh6443]

I don’t mind Dunkey’s video because I found it funny and it’s supposed to be purely humorous. I don’t like the amount of sheep thinking the game is bad just because of the video.

[@verdantorange]

@@wishbushwashbosh6443 "sheep" LMAO

[@wishbushwashbosh6443]

@@verdantorange Ok then, what are they?

[@verdantorange]

@@wishbushwashbosh6443 ??? people who are influenced by creators they enjoy

[@wishbushwashbosh6443]

@@verdantorange so sheep.

[@SirPembertonS.Crevalius]

It looks fine for a sonic game, especially compared to other sonic games as you say, but I can't justify it's $60 price tag from what I've seen and heard about it.

[@0bashie]

60 dolans for a tech demo, we live in a time in history

[@Volejr]

@@0bashie its not a "tech demo" its an actual nearly 10 hour game or more and in like your country its probably like the cost of 3 bread loafs

[@0bashie]

​@@Volejr in my country it costs 182 cheapest bread loafs. 60 USD = 2194 UAH 1 loaf = ~12 UAH additionally, it really is kind of a tech demo. it looks like a straight up roblox game where you go on park rides, walmart land-style. ridiculous

[@Aigle662frileux]

@@0bashie TeCh DeMO 🤡

[@0bashie]

@@Aigle662frileux yea don't even explain yourself, chuck a clown emoji and you're done, no defense needed

[@aubrynobicop6924]

Would you believe me if I said that sonic team had to beg for the extra development time.

[@Shi.f.t]

maybe

[@apersoniguess_]

SEGA putting their all into making sure Sonic Team gets as little time as possible to actually make games

[@nightmarefredbeer1455]

Sonic fans: shit on Forces because of "game playing itself" thing. Frontiers: does the same thing, but in open world Sonic fans: Perfection

[@thefastcommenter7774]

Wrong.

[@thefastcommenter7774]

Forces is mid

[@therealestcupheadonyt]

glazing is crazy

[@terrarianender]

The only Sonic game I ever played and really enjoyed was Mania. Even though I'm not a big fan of Sonic games I'm still hoping that he'll have an amazing 3D game one day. As a side note, I'm impressed that nearly every Foekoe video finds a way to dunk on an unrelated game with a less than ten second clip or meme.

[@seematahir5970]

It's cool if you personally don't enjoy any 3D Sonic games but many of them are well-received (Generations, Colors, the Adventure games, etc.) I dont think it's fair to say none of them are amazing

[@zackclark7968]

the "amazing 3d game" already came out. hop on generations lil bro

[@Wither645]

My man really called the Adventure games and Unleashed mid while he called Black Knight "an atrocity" like my brother in christ Black Knight is (at least for me) not that awful Edit: having said that, i still respect his opinion even if i disagree, hating on someone just because of a different opinion on a game is dumb

[@GimOA]

Sonic with guns is hilarious tho 🤣

[@imagery5425]

Black knight needs more credit, Sonic with a sword is sick.

[@sackydzNG]

Not everyone can appreciate genuine masterpieces, and that’s okay (I guess)

[@aTristicionAXA]

Because they are mid once you play actually good games from consistently good franchises

[@FlamingFoxProd]

I've been playing BK recently, and it's... honestly awesome. The gameplay isn't perfect, it can certainly get tedious at times - but everything else about the game is incredible. The sword combat, while jank at times, is very fun and fast paced. The music is incredible, it has some true underrated gems. The aesthetics are wonderful and well-grounded, rather impressive for the Wii too. And the writing? Genuinely the best Sonic has been written before Frontiers came along. It was the last truly good Sonic story and it perfectly showed off who the character is.

[@seematahir5970]

I feel like the reason people dunk on 3D Sonic so much is because his games are not nearly as approachable as other platformers. There exist no other games that quite like the 3D Sonic titles, and when people get thrown off by the more serious stories and admitted lack of polish, they start looking for ways to devalue them as much as possible. We've gotten to the point where the supposed "atrocities" of Sonic consist of Sonic 06 and Shadow the Hedgehog --which feel like beating a dead horse--and 3 spinoff games, one of which is decent. Games like the Adventure games are considered "mid at best", and Generations and Colors are conveniently always ignored. And now that he's finally starting to break the mold and innovate, people are quick to provide destructive criticism. People aren't looking to Sonic with a genuine critical eye anymore. They just want him to fail and to mock him because his issues are more glaring, but no more prevalent, than other series. I have to stress that no game franchise is above slip-ups. Crash Bandicoot has tons of awful spin-offs. Hell, even Mario has had unpolished and frustrating games. I would gladly play Shadow the Hedgehog or Sonic Unleashed before I ever replayed Sunshine. I'm honestly just fucking tired of people saying Sonic is inconsistent and bad when he really isn't. He's had issues and I'll never argue he's a triple A game series or anything, but his games provide something that can't be found anywhere else in the sphere of gaming, and I'll always be grateful for them for that.

[@Herman61Real]

truly one of the sonic games ever made

[@idontknowhowtonamemyself7414]

I liked the part where Sonic says "Its Sonicing time" and soniced all over the place

[@exotic1405]

I liked the part where sonic was blue

[@GimOA]

you guys nissing out, he's a literal blue hedgehog that walks with only two legs!!

[@thefastcommenter7774]

Truly a overused meme of all time

[@Neoniq41]

Loved the part when Sonic said "at last, we've discovered ALL of the Frontiers" truly and emotional moment.

[@saifee7899]

I just wish the boss fights in this game were more about being quick and moving around (like the ones in hyperlight drifter)

[@kontofmonte3464]

For me bosses are an important part of a game, when I saw the bosses in this game i was blasted away by how good the ost implements them. Although I won't be playing the game the bosses were my favourite part And by the bosses i don't mean the mini bosses i love the main bosses waaaay more

[@SunshowerHeathcliffBeliever]

I found the cyberspace levels to be really fun, actually. The speed and flow of it usually feels really satisfying to master, getting S rank in time is a great feeling.

[@daniman0114]

I tried my hardest to like them but I just couldn’t, the gameplay is plucked straight from forces and the level designs are from generations and unleashed, which means that traversing through the levels never felt quite right for me.

[@venezuela547]

I got the S rank on every stage, Its very fun.

[@kenjiisparxx]

The cyberspace overhaul mod makes the stages bearable and actually FUN. The default controls make me want to play Forces again tbh.

[@vizthex]

i've also never been into Sonic, but the main problem with the games is that running fast isn't a fun game mechanic unless you design the game around that (like speedrunning games similar to Neon White and Cyberhook), but none of his games are designed around that - they're just platformers where you move way too fast. and as you said in the video, the level design still feels like a dev build with all the floating structures and whatnot. Collect-a-thons are designed around precise and methodical movement, but Sonic can't really do that so it ends up not working. i kinda liked the werehog levels in Unleashed because of the slower pace, letting me actually function and look for the collectibles and whatnot (though i played it on PSNow years ago, so i'd kinda handicapped myself lmao). I don't know why Sega hasn't leaned into his speed more and made something like Neon White - that would be peak Sonic imo.

[@metagross6897]

This title: exists The toxic part of the sonic community : we were once bad but now we are worse

[@foulbeans9693]

That looked more like a sandbox than an actual open world game.

[@NotSoGenesiz]

this game makes me really hopeful for the next sonic game, imagine, we get to see the best aspects of this game but refined even more

[@jamassexd4134]

Honey, new foekoe fart joke just dropped.

[@mayojambolambo]

this will be forkoe comedy in 2003

[@TrueLordShrek]

and it's dead now

[@jamassexd4134]

this doin numbers

[@stoopitnamls]

0:19 Sa2 is mid guys, its over.

[@greysoncrowe5196]

The reviewer with a lisp has spoken

[@stoopitnamls]

@@greysoncrowe5196 Unfunny + didnt laugh

[@1111Lusor]

While most of the problems usally are exagerated in the impact they have in the experience... the popping is really problematic in the open zone. And while in the normal progression it would have little impact, when getting all the 100% memory tokens the problem of not seeing the connected part of the course or rails is real. All being said a fair review, I don't agree with a lot, but what I expected based on your tastes and preferences in other reviews.

[@bakerboy8821]

I spent 6 hrs yesterday playing this game, completing the first area. After the giganto boss, I gotta go back

[@personperson5964]

Seeing sonic fans reaction to genshin winning an award is some of the funniest shit I've seen in a while

[@eyesofdeathperception6730]

Ikr?

[@ILikeMakeBelieveUnironically]

tbh the whole conflict is

[@pusney1864]

The entire mid vs mid fight was quite enjoyable

[@Paulnurburg78]

Agreed both stupid dumb dumb fanbases being a bunch of babies over an award is fucking hillarious

[@ILikeMakeBelieveUnironically]

@@Paulnurburg78 yeah, once i saw a genshin kid on a facebook group make a post throwing around random fancy-sounding insults to everyone on the other side with no explaination Chuckled a bit

[@smugbowkid9919]

They say “don’t settle for less,” but when “less” is the only thing you’ll ever get…

[@BenjaDoesGames]

I really enjoyed frontiers and loved everything about it (minus pop-ins and a few glitches), but i see you have an opinion and i respect that. Have a good day.

[@WigWoo1]

Sonic adventure 1&2 is all time best Sonic game hands down. I really don't know how you can call those games mid They were the ONLY good 3D Sonic games

[@mikoaj5002]

Hehe yes. Were

[@DarkPanda558]

You say “were” inclining that past Adventure 1 & 2 the games were better? They’re a bunch of good 3D Sonic games, people like to forget that though

[@Kooky95]

And yea, sa2 isn’t mid. It’s trash

[@srcoeiu6100]

I see a lot of people calling it mid or just not awful but tbh i felt it's pretty good, just with a lot of problems and way more room for improvement

[@imagery5425]

Ok so decent.

[@srcoeiu6100]

@@imagery5425 Nah it's still a good game

[@imagery5425]

@@srcoeiu6100 it’s kinda a synonym.

[@thefastcommenter7774]

@@imagery5425 Wrong.

[@erik1694]

Sonic games are known for the rewarding S ranks and replayable stages. For Frontiers the Cyberspace levels are not as replayable as other sonic games but you still have the satisfaction of learning the level design and Sonic's movement to get to the goal as fast as possible. I'm a big fan of the boost formula and i think the BEST implementation of this formula is in Sonic Rush Adventure for the DS, I'm not even joking. Getting the S rank is so cool and rewarding and is also required to progress into the story, and is the perfect introduction on how to properly enjoy Sonic games in general. You should give it a try!

[@digito9650]

*cough cough* 1-2

[@erik1694]

@@digito9650 even better then 1-2

[@helpihavebats6392]

I mean i think it could be fun to get S ranks if it was hard to achieve but for the exception of 1-2 its just handed to ya. Like i wanna learn to optimize the level layouts but the lack of challenge provides no incentive to do so

[@erik1694]

@@helpihavebats6392 If you want that kind of game i recommend Sonic Rush Adventure.

[@helpihavebats6392]

@@erik1694 yo thanks for reminding me of that game that was the good stuff

[@astro408]

I cannot believe Foekoe expressed his opinion

[@nix3l_]

how dare he

[@exotic1405]

Skin his face off with a fishhook

[@xXAngel2DSXx]

(2:48) This is something I can agree with Fok sense I understand the game is open world (while others call it “open zone”) these random sonic objects sprinkled around the game makes sonic frontiers look like a testing ground for controls rather then something a part of the map. Take Unleashed for example it’s hub world is a great representation of sonic world objects like springs, dash pads, and rails fit in so well and doesn’t feel like a lazy add on. In certain hubs they are even themed in sonic levels to fit the aesthetic of the level and makes it feel so much better and give you the feel of sonic running across the world. Frontiers is more on the mid side with random springs and dash pads thrown in there for no reason and calling it “ancient ruins”.

[@ReclaimerTyphoon]

Truth. The scenery is ruined with a hundred circuses worth of garbage vomitted randomly across the landscape, the pop-in is horrendous, the minigames are obnoxious and/or dumb, the whole thing is trying so desperately to be "cool" and "grown-up", and it just ends up being overly edgy, gloomy, and emo. There are entirely too many different kinds of gameplay, controls change at the drop of a hat (every time you hit one of the hundred different kinds of traversal gimmicks), and the constant *noise* of all of the traversal gimmicks - it's enough to drive a person off the deep end. I keep saying I'll get this game if I see it for really cheap... but I don't think I even want to do that. The game isn't devoid of satisfying junk here and there, but, overall, it's lazy fanservice, bad game design, for a community that screamed for more, and got exactly that, and those of us that wanted something substantial and sustainable... we were given suffering.

[@stolenalt]

Well duh. Any sane and non-stubborn being out there would either say Sonic Frontiers is good, alright or mid. People gotta be more grateful and also more judgemental cause that's exactly what a good sonic game is, "Alright!"

[@Arzinist]

An alright game is a masterpiece in the eyes of a sonic fan (we have like 3 actually good games)

[@pulse27]

it depends on your tastes. i enjoy most sonic games, even forces is pretty fun for me.

[@greysoncrowe5196]

From what I've heard: Frontiers, Adventure 1 & 2, and Generations are really good (10-7/10). Unleashed, Colors, and Heroes are mid (about 6-5/10). 06, Lost World, Boom, and Forces are awful.

[@pulse27]

@@greysoncrowe5196 i've heard unleashed praised, lost world being called ok, frontiers being praised for being mid, colors being hated on for no reason, and people hating on sa2. the fanbase has weird opinions.

[@greysoncrowe5196]

@@pulse27 I'm just going off of the general consensus. Everyone has their own opinions.

[@pulse27]

@@greysoncrowe5196 i mean, colors was pretty well recieved.

[@nicaaro]

All the grindrail sections look like I made them in Disney infinity when I was 11

[@R.E.S]

Foekoe you are a really good, editor, KZbinr and game reviewer. You inspire me a lot.

[@adummy9664]

I really don't get why people lose it when larger popular KZbinrs show the flaws of this game when it's so clear from any sort of gameplay footage that this is "7/10 open world" the game. Like there's nothing wrong with enjoying it but people shouldn't make it out to be more than it is and shouldn't get mad when someone else doesn't share their opinion. (*COUGH* People hating on Dunkey for disliking the game. *COUGH*)

[@ricomannen2502]

All I wanted to hear was that, at least this game is better than scarlet and violet, THANK YOU Foekoe for making my day

[@Blackdiamond2]

the grind rails just placed randomly throughout the sky reminds me of those 1-block random squiggles of obsidian on 2b2t

[@zag1797]

i cannot believe Foe would share his opinion im unsubbing :pensive::pensive::pensive::pensive::pensive:

[@TheAlphaandOmega252]

Don't care if you say Sonic is mid, as long as I'm having fun on frontiers then I'm good

[@Miguelius256]

you know what? the more I think about it, I wish this game could have been better. I'm not blaming the game for being bad and I have my boredom, instead I enjoyed it. I loved running around trying to figure out to get the chaos emeralds and, even if the story wasn't top notch, I loved the new character. I just hoped there could've been more depth to everything generally and make the game more interesting. For example, more love to the map instead of grind rail roller coasters and improvements in the cyberstage's physics, challenges, variety and level design. (But ok, it's a kids' game, we need those puzzles to be simple level 1 thin ice from the iconic club penguin). good video tho. 👍

[@Miguelius256]

There are already dumps of cut content if anybody is curious.

[@greysoncrowe5196]

Everyone else is saying that too, the game is not bad by any means, just could use more.

[@Miguelius256]

@@greysoncrowe5196 I can see that is becoming common sense

[@mr_hacks2552]

actually tho like whats the name of that music at the end that shit was banging hard

[@watto6491]

Thanks for giving us your opinion on the sonic series

[@ProbablyAdson]

6/10 best game sonic team has put out in decades

[@theminecraft2516]

Best game they put out in decade (Generations)

[@greysoncrowe5196]

@@theminecraft2516 generations was a decade ago

[@theminecraft2516]

@@greysoncrowe5196 that’s what I just said

[@kian7406]

Cringe and false

[@iv0453]

@@theminecraft2516 Mania?

[@borderline-passible]

tbh as a sonic fan im satisfied with an "ok" rating backed up with some good evidance

[@wishbushwashbosh6443]

Well the general reception of this game has been that it’s pretty good which should be better than just OK.

[@TailsHub7]

i dont see how adventure 2, unleashed, or adventure 1 is mid but i respect your opinion

[@siginarayanan464]

Foekoe, what is your opinion about the new bendy game, bendy, and the dark revival? yesterday i was watching sheeprampage talk about it. I was wondering why u have did any videos on it yet

[@bing_crystal4831]

I like to give the game the benefit of the doubt it’s all the glitches and boring moments by remembering that this game is still basically brand new, but yeah. I feel like the cutscenes and character interactions are probably the highlight of the game so far imo. At least the Sonic games are slowly getting better.

[@CaptainF123]

Sonic Fans genuinely might start a war with you calling adventure 1 and 2 and Unleashed 'aggressively mid. So god save you on twitter

[@nou1360]

They were. Except Unleashed, that one was shit

[@CaptainF123]

Nah day stages are vibes night stages are mid tbh.

[@helpihavebats6392]

@@CaptainF123 fun until the game says “hey go back and search for medals” the 5th time

[@CaptainF123]

Unleashed ain't shit.

[@DALLORGON]

i couldnt agree more with you. finally and i mean finally i beat the game today, played on and off since launch but never got around to beating it. Wanted to make a review myself but you just summed up literally every problem that i had and I commend you for doing so. Great video well done

[@banette0819]

Honestly, if somebody showed me Sonic frontiers' map I would straight up just say that it's from zelda breath of the wild.

[@ILikeMakeBelieveUnironically]

Hey, thanks for being the first guy in a while to give a bad review of a Sonic game that doesn't just have problems that can be summed up by "i'm bad at the game". Really haven't seen theese often.

[@pacmanfan3488]

Ehh i don't really agree with you saying Sonic adventure 1 2 and heroes were mid but oh well everyone has their tastes

[@Zadamanim]

I havent used the auto combo skill but I think it might be making him just use random skills all the time? I don't know why they put that in the game at all.

[@somedude725]

Maybe they might add a difficulty options which would probably help with the boss fights

[@JESSYOW]

tfw it opens up with how rough 3D sonic has had it

[@dachel683]

ok and?

[@Aigle662frileux]

@@dachel683 It's boring

[@dachel683]

@@Aigle662frileux who

[@TheMotionHero]

Bro, I don’t know why it actually hurt to see Sonic and the Black Knight and Secret Rings alongside Boom at the very beginning, like there’s no way those games remotely close because unlike boom, you can at least have fun with the other two 😂

[@juliannocartagena2007]

Same.

[@games_on_phone89]

no you can't

[@theoriginalstarwalker1653]

1:34 I literally live for these small details

[@Vintagesonic1]

0:18 Ayo, there's no way this man put some of the most goated Sonic games of all time like SA1, Heroes and Unleashed in the "mid" category.

[@Kooky95]

It’s true.

[@yamaspajamaz7718]

i think THE BEST thing that sonic frontiers can do rn is to fix its clonky movement, pop in and lag and the game will be much BETTER

[@os9077]

Sonic Frontiers is the best Sonic gams in my opinion and its a really good game, the game is not mid the game is a masterpiece that that even outsold gow ragnarok

[@os9077]

@SaltyAndGreasy 3 million sales for Sonic its like 20 million

[@Nathan-rb3qp]

@@os9077 Oh you're making a joke about the 7 is like a 10 to us mentally.

[@os9077]

@@Nathan-rb3qp ye but we are sonic fans bro

[@Mikey-tc3xi]

Now do scarlet and violet, I think it's good even with its faults, but I would like to see your opinion

[@InferiorWhaleburg]

I remember saying that this game was BOTW 6 years after BOTW, and it's worse. Then some sonic fan getting insanely angry about it and saying something along the lines of "Sonic is WAY better then BOTW" He's wrong.

[@eyesofdeathperception6730]

That's a Sonic fan coping

[@kneftwuppo]

great video! sums up my thoughts pretty well. (also for the record adventure 1 and 2 are masterpieces when you look past the problems brought about by age)

[@ghartuckt663]

Thats not really a good argument, you can look past the problems on any bad game and call it good, you can ignore the problems but they are still there.

[@kneftwuppo]

@@ghartuckt663 thats true but i mean to say that certain problems the game has aren't their fault like for instance halo combat evolved having confusing level design is acceptable because not many people had really done 3d games yet

[@cradodragmire1563]

@@ghartuckt663 No like problems that are caused by age not development. Thats most of the issues. There are issues that are actually mistakes but most for Adventure are just age.

[@snakey888]

Nah, too many design issues.

[@kneftwuppo]

@@snakey888 the majority of issues reguarding the adventure games are a cause of the industry as a whole not knowing better at the time that they were made. This doesn't mean they're not flaws it just means that they are acceptable ones.

[@baka_telas4266]

I played the game all the way through and when i thought about it i said to myself: "Damn, this game is peak mid"

[@dunkboyxd6618]

We’re you playing on easy mode or hard mode? I think hard mode makes you actually press a sequence of buttons to do special moves

[@tadeuszekpl]

Quick question have you played most of the 3D games or did you just look up the metacritic score since you didnt wanna beat sonic adventure 6 times

[@greysoncrowe5196]

You already know he did. He called the adventure games and unleashed mid

[@ambientNexus]

@@greysoncrowe5196 Or, he just doesn't find them all that great.

[@greysoncrowe5196]

@@ambientNexus kinda hard to say that given that, by his own words, he never played any of them.

[@ambientNexus]

@@greysoncrowe5196 Timestamp?

[@dachel683]

@@greysoncrowe5196 who cares bro, his take let him have it

[@Lev-Wave]

This game really seem like something that was made with a lesser budget compared to the previous sonic games like generations and unleashed at least in the visual department

[@Arzinist]

Yeah, this game actually had a really small team (like 60 people) so you're sort of right

[@exotic1405]

@@Arzinist 60 ppl on a AAA game???????

[@Arzinist]

@@exotic1405 yup

[@exotic1405]

@@Arzinist dang

[@flxwerhxrts4037]

@@Arzinist sega needs to hire more people after this

[@yamandoesstuff9755]

It's more of a "Oh shit we made something good after a decade" moment for sega. They know it's not great and we know its not great but it's good for now as they kinda got out their little limbo. If i would rate it i would rate it a 7/10 The story is good imo but weak at times. Cyberspace felt a bit more fun to me but i can understand where you're coming from. Very annoying and clunky at times (seriously this game needs a hotfix). Also the rails floating is because they're "not supposed to be there" but... it still looks awkward. Overall good for now and i like it. Good to see something good come out of sonic in after a long time.

[@Stickestpt2]

whats your opinion on the 16 bit games?

[@deftwhistle]

Ok I need to know what that game in the down part was at the start it looks nice

[@mayonnaise3959]

Literally the halo infinite of the sonic franchise(halo infinite at launch that is not now)

[@qwertyiuwg4uwtwthn]

Im having Post-Game clarity with frontiers Its pretty mediocre

[@Maniax64]

"Sonic Was Never Good" -IGN 2016

[@Abaw]

It would be interesting to see a foekoe video talking about the classic sonic games.

[@henrykado]

my guy said cd is better than adventure 1 and 2 😭😭💀

[@Abaw]

@@henrykado adventure 2 is pretty boring to be honest, adventure 1 is really fun and if I had to compare them I would do: Sa1 > CD > sa2

[@wgbee1242]

@@henrykado He’s right

[@henrykado]

@@Abaw damn, adventure 2 is my favorite

[@greysoncrowe5196]

Classic sonic games are some of my favorite games ever (sonic 2 especially). I haven't played any 3d ones though, might try Frontiers since from what I've heard, it's so far one of the best 3d sonic games, up there with the adventure games.

[@AbyssaloftheVoid]

This game looks unfinished like they just left random stuff around the map and called it a day

[@alphabettispaghetti3805]

Great video but putting SA2 in the same tier as lost world has made me physically cringe so -37/10 video unfortunately

[@chicken1857]

the moment i finish wtching the sonic frontiers drama and this one gets published lol

[@PolyChromeTV]

Legit tho... what are those pulley rope things called?!

[@spindriftizded2033]

Only real fans know that this video used to be called "sonic fartiers"

[@hadjamal5103]

yeah

[@child_claus]

sonic fans when a half decent title comes out

[@mihneamihnea7968]

You probs just watched just some videos and didnt actually play the game lmfao

[@child_claus]

@@mihneamihnea7968 no rlly it gets old I have played it

[@hoseinsalimian1927]

What did you think about the new mario plus rabbids game?

[@corentincursoux5852]

I’ve didn’t played Pokémon scarlet and violet yet, will this be good because the last game sword and shield was disappointing for me.

[@helpihavebats6392]

Warning new pokemon game runs essentially in slow motion and npcs have comically bad fps to the point its kinda funny But there is a good game just like you gotta suffer through to maybe get it

[@corentincursoux5852]

I used to be a huge Pokémon fan back then, with the release of black and white, ugh … well guess I’ll become a Kirby/sonic fan.