SOS Bros React - Attack on Titan Season 3 Episode 20 - Answers...

[@colington]

When Eren wakes up crying in his cell, Mikasa says “have you been crying?” and Eren replies “I’ve felt like I just a had a long dream” this is same dialogue from the first episode when eren is crying under the tree and mikasa finds him

[@M_JackOfAllTrades]

Ooohh, good point!

[@AllTheArtsy]

"Mikasa, when did your hair get so long?"

[@lvillarreal8865]

Yep. It's an introduction to the new Arc.

[@dominicgunderson]

@@AllTheArtsy "Idk but it's hot as hell"

[@AllTheArtsy]

@@dominicgunderson idk if joke or not, but remember that in current episodes (and even more so in recent manga chapters) Mikasa's hair is cut short

[@austin9568AuraMasterDX]

Caleb's reaction to the Backstoria while Jacob giggles like a mad man, beautiful.

[@fourthhorsemendeath218]

I see what ya did there

[@confused4971]

Honestly they seemed more like sobs of despair

[@AllTheArtsy]

Caleb: When you try to push the burdens of the world into a child, they reject that. That's not what a child is meant to shoulder. Jacob: Because they haven't made it their own. If they choose to take it up, awesome. But if you try to push it on to them, they will reject it. Eren: When can I see what's in the basement? Grisha: When you learn what is truly important. Isayama: Yeah, I know I'm the greatest.

[@kima_95]

Was really hoping for this to be discussed. So far none of the channels I watched have, but I do think it is important to acknowledge that Grisha did try to correct his wrong. Letting Eren come into all of this by his own thought and will. But then a giant skinless (not) devil kicked in their gate and all he could do was hope for the best on his way out of the storyline temporarily.

[@erenjaeger6810]

@@kima_95 indeed

[@carolinedelafuente7251]

I love how He basically realized that and did it properly to Eren. LMAO

[@doomburger8433]

@@carolinedelafuente7251 third times the charm

[@mints5599]

Mikasa bed hair is the real plot twist

[@tramquangpho]

can anybody give me the time frame they dicuss Mikasa hair

[@JufftheAllGlorious]

I didn't realize she cut it this early

[@tramquangpho]

@@JufftheAllGlorious nope she not cut it, her hair just messed up, there are some ppl in this world are cursed with bed hair every god damn morning, like me

[@ch1dd]

@Pho Lip Or a blessing in Mikasa's case

[@mints5599]

@@ch1dd 2:20:21 blessed

[@ghostghost8510]

Caleb:"If i study this episode" The amount of dedication in that statment... Other reactors take a note.

[@DJKAFRUNEN]

They are the best reactors. Period.

[@antoniou6427]

1:11:38 C: *"We might get some Reiner focus at some point..."* Jacob internally: "Some" *Deep sigh and raising eyebrows to the camera*

[@mattiaachille233]

Does Jacob hate the Warriors?

[@Yal_Rathol]

@@mattiaachille233 no, he's referring to the fact that we might be getting some reiner focus soon-ish.

[@antoniou6427]

@@mattiaachille233 I think it's just his way of keeping his own reactions in check since he already knows what's gonna happen

[@mattiaachille233]

@@antoniou6427 Okay I understand, thank you for your answer dude

[@LoJoRo]

I love this.

[@prassanak3601]

Finally we manga readers can say Eldians and Marleyans without spoiling it for anime onlys

[@Yal_Rathol]

thank christ, it's taken too long.

[@yunusahmed2940]

Wasn't the term Eldian used before this episode? But was super hidden or something.

[@ironwoodkid9577]

@@yunusahmed2940 no, if it was, it was probably fan subs

[@yunusahmed2940]

@@ironwoodkid9577 I don't know why but I feel like I remember it from before.

[@AllTheArtsy]

@@secondeye1574 Or you saw spoilers lol

[@MyTiredAccount]

Attack on Titan is seriously a masterpiece

[@datzfatz2368]

yupp.^^

[@Unknown_crusader]

Yes!

[@AaronMorel01]

When those people tried digging underneath the walls, they were actually hitting the titan’s feet. The titans in the walls are 60m tall, just like the Colossal Titan, but 10m of them are underground, thus making the walls 50m high.

[@kima_95]

Really hoping someone passes this on and they see this info. I almost got confused there. 😂

[@amintron]

hmmm could be, i mean i don't believe there are titans are under the ground like caleb said. either the titans actually go underground and they're 60m talls or i think it's as simple as only the walls continue underground and the titans are just shorter than the colossal titan

[@justalex2316]

Ohhh that makes sense

[@slothful2039]

Ah, if K remember correctly im that info shared its said that the miners who dug under the wall, "disappeared". Definitely the work of the reiss and the church.

[@mirane9803]

Can someone tell me where is this stated in the anime or manga cause I might have missed it. If it was stated in anime mid transitions where they show information, then I did missed it.

[@monetizedyay6827]

Attack on titan used *confusion* It’s super effective

[@killallbots1012]

A lot became confused. They hurt themselves out of confusion.

[@sigma--boss7098]

Lol if you're a manga reader, you KNOW the real confusion is still yet to come... that one line. I can already picture Caleb's confusion and Jacob laughing once *that person* say *that thing* LOL

[@luiscaballero8484]

@@sigma--boss7098 yep yep. I'm also gonna laugh to Caleb's reaction.

[@dicecorporation]

@@sigma--boss7098 pAtHs

[@Naccarat]

@@sigma--boss7098 baby you know it. It's gonna be lit

[@allansantos1615]

This discussion is why I love this channel so much. I watch tons of reactions, and NONE are so attentive to details and dedicated to the shows they are watching as you are. Caleb was even able to connect the dots in things that didn't even cross my mind when I first read this portion of the manga, and he barely had any time to digest the episode. You guys are the true transcendent madlads lol

[@robinomana589]

You can now watch Filmbuff and enjoy.

[@johnniecinco6698]

Fellow AOT fanbase... The Basement Reveal is the "I AM your father" moment of our generation. Enjoy it.

[@jaylenwilbourn2936]

LOL! Underrated comment😂

[@elizasear3437]

True

[@Inu-o3i]

As a mobile user , I appreciate the subtitles on the bottom , as I can’t sync two videos

[@Ancientumoto]

I just use a laptop and a phone.

[@Lrodpotato]

Lol I just use two different tabs on chrome on my laptop.... side by side..... 🤣 Idk why'd you'd use a laptop and your phone when you can use only your laptop....

[@haxjob]

Use a popup player app

[@Inu-o3i]

kian Duivenbooden I don’t have a laptop

[@Inu-o3i]

Axele don’t have a laptop

[@zeemod1556]

Semblance of Sanity: The Movie

[@rouch96]

Sorry for replying 3 years later but I’d like to thank you so much for making me laugh 😂, best wishes.

[@AlessaParker]

Your faces in the thumbnail is like the perfect representation of manga reader vs anime only 🤣

[@TherealDEXIL]

Ikr😂

[@little_nightfury1762]

Caleb's slow realization with the Smiling Titan...I love it! I've waited so long to see his reaction to it and I was not disappointed!

[@Inu-o3i]

Almost 2 hours and a half long? Damn, I’m excited lol.

[@newdaydiscoveries1828]

Oh, I am so HYPED now!

[@lloowik]

As expected of the bros !

[@PoochZie]

Next one will be even longer I guess.

[@sirsmoothable]

Bro, to think that Jacob knew THIS MUCH information the whole time and had to keep it all in just goes to show you how much restraint he has😭

[@Lrodpotato]

Dude my cousin is anime only and is the type that likes to binge and everyday I'm like "When are we gonna watch Attack on Titan?? You'd die rn if you were watching what's hapening rn." So I'm literally waiting patiently for the last episode. So I can then blab for hours to him after he watches it . 🤣

[@Sheyvanrocks]

Mate, We Manga Readers have alot more we had to shut up about and we still have to shut up about. If you never got spoiled realize how extremely careful the vast majority of manga readers is. I dont want a medal or anything, just saying. 😅

[@Yaori999]

Jacob is the only person who can beat No Nut November confirmed.

[@dominicgunderson]

@@SheyvanrocksAttack on Titan is one of the greatest fanbases interms of spoiling the story. You can't look up anything even related to AOT without getting spoiled. It's pretty horrible.

[@sirsmoothable]

Indeed😂

[@Thoutzan]

"If we get some Reiner focus, that will be good" *chuckles* *chuckles* *chuckles*

[@JufftheAllGlorious]

He is pretty much the protagonist now

[@Roxst1905]

laughs in manga

[@ironwoodkid9577]

@@JufftheAllGlorious he's our precious sufferboi

[@datzfatz2368]

@@ironwoodkid9577 Reiner: "can we get on with the plot?" Isayama: " Does Suffering count as Plot?" Reiner: " No?" Isayama: " TOO BAAAAAD!!!"

[@Shori948]

@@datzfatz2368 "Just let me die already goddamnit"

[@allansantos1615]

It's weird how I'm feeling more hype to watch this reaction than the actual episode lol It's what I get from being a manga reader

[@Im_Jaeger]

YOU HAVE NOW COMPLETED THE ATTACK ON TITAN TUTORIAL

[@AllTheArtsy]

((((SPOILERS))) Nah, one more. We still have paths and lifespan limiters lol

[@Ivy94F]

All The Artsy Lol. That’s what I was going to say. Just one more ought to do it.😉

[@carolinedelafuente7251]

@@AllTheArtsy the lifespan is pretty much kinda... already obvious tho. Or is it just me

[@AllTheArtsy]

@@carolinedelafuente7251 It's obvious because you know the manga? No one's reaction that I've watched have brought up the fact that Uri became essentially an old man when he is Rod's YOUNGER brother. No one's made the connection to why the Founding is passed on waaay too early, considering. Zeke is weirdly drawn as "older" but not in a weirdly WOAH WHY U SO OLD way just a oh, that's older than our main Eren cohort way lol, and Kruger just seems like he'd be old based on how long it's been since Grisha saw him as a boy.

[@carolinedelafuente7251]

@@AllTheArtsy it was hinted but it was pretty obvious at this point. If you think about Grisha and Zeke. I mean, it might've just been me and my friends and most of them doesn't even bother reading the manga

[@bigril5483]

For Caleb, Grisha did not repeat his own mistake. He did not brainwash Eren to make him to anything this time. Eren chose his way to explore the world in the very first epiode by his own will.

[@venyuu8029]

He still forced his legacy onto him in the end. I understand why he did it though.

[@emmittnervend2918]

Yeah I can't give Zeke a complete out he is a P.O.S. Annie didn't fall for that propaganda BS when she was a kid . She recognized the lies the government was telling her she only joined because of her dad forced her. That's why her dad was asking for forgiveness back in her season one and ova flashbacks. Over 1700 years ago Ymir Fritz's "made a deal with the devil" which granted her the power of the Titans. When she died the power was split and bestowed upon Nine Noble house's. King Fritz's abandoned Marley thus upsetting the power balance between the other Titan Shifter's. This allowed Marley to overthrow the Eldians and seize the nation and claim seven of the nine Titan powers for themselves 80 years ago. Marley only keeps the Eldians around because their people are the ones who can turn into Titans.

[@ArtficialFlvrz]

I would say 39-40 for sure, definitely didn't have Eren the same year he got into the walls. Needed to meet and court Carla for a while, and decide to have a kid at some point. Add the 5 or 6 years since he's been dead. Would be 45 years old if he was alive today. sounds about right, Zeke can be in his late twenties and look like he does.

[@killallbots1012]

You forgot the three-year gap from the last part of the episode to the birth of Eren.

[@yummybutter8707]

ArtficialFlvrz yeah we also gotta remember all this happened before the 13 years, it’s safe to assume he had Eren on his 3rd year in the wall and as a titan shifter, and when Eren was 10, he had to give up his titan to him after Wall Maria fell

[@ironwoodkid9577]

@@yummybutter8707 that's a good point, yea

[@にゃんこーぽん]

it's actually 74 years before faye died 743 Great Titan War (74 years ago in 817) 743 The Wall was built(102 years ago in 845) 817 grisha(11) faye(8) died (15 years ago in 832) 832 grisha(26) reached the wall, zeke(7) 835 eren(0) grisha (29) zeke(10) 845 eren(10) grisha (39) zeke (20) 850 eren(15) zeke (25)

[@MrokuXV]

Caleb: Grisha is probably going to get some huge backstory. Me: Nah, he only tried to revive the empire.

[@WeNTuS]

Nazi Empire*

[@mathewalexander5547]

@@WeNTuS *Valyrian Empire

[@karolinesilvap]

@@WeNTuS this again? Lmao stop

[@dicecorporation]

@@WeNTuS As far as we know, both are pretty much Nazi lol

[@aurasdomain9663]

@@dicecorporation yup

[@Cesar_Orostegui]

So I'm a transcendent mad lad. Nice, or I have absolute no life, or maybe both. But you know what I really love about you guys? You actually understand feelings, emotions and inner conflicts. You're not like" dude this character is so corny/weak or he/she´s such a pussy for this or this reason. I´d just go n kill everyone or blow everything up n fuck it". You show empathy towards characters and their suffering. That speaks so well of you guys. Love you both dudes!

[@Ari-ft3lm]

Hello fellow transcendent mad lad. you had my thought on them too

[@Riel93]

To you, in 2000 years. That freaking episode title for AoT's first episode makes sense now

[@sabasgt]

@Mariomasqmario It looks like he's just an anime only, probably, that has a functional brain and can connect simple things like that without the "mighty guidance" of a manga readers jeez. Not everyone has to be completely oblivious to everything.

[@sericsson1996]

From you, in 2000 years!

[@sirsmoothable]

holy shit a 2 HOUR discussion xD im ready!

[@Lrodpotato]

Literally have to comment about my excitement for their reaction/discussion before I even start watching. 🤣

[@Riel93]

This episode had me throwing nearly all my theories out the freaking window

[@dicecorporation]

Back in the day, I was actually pretty close. Just got the time period wrong with about two centuries lol

[@datzfatz2368]

@@dicecorporation damn thats pretty good actually^^ I was almost completely spot on back then, i just didnt guess PATHS that threw me for a spin a bit^^

[@kiyoshi10693]

Fun fact: Isayama specifically requested that when Gross (the fat one who fed Fay to the dogs) was monologing, he looked directly into the camera. So that part was meant for us, the viewers. Basically, we got called out by a fat Nazi!!

[@ThatRandomJ]

Do you guys remember Bertholdt's speech from season 2 where he was saying that they're monsters and that no one wants to be like them and then he cried out "Someone, please find us!" That speech makes so much sense now that we've learned about the Marleyans, how they treat Eldians, and a little about the warrior program.

[@Paul.IanChrist]

Jacob & Caleb : You're transcended madlad Me: No, you guys are transcended madlad

[@SymonH28]

This episode really took parental negligence to a whole new level. xD

[@DixyRae]

Father's Day Special

[@SymonH28]

@@DixyRae Mother's Day too - for all the mothers out there that's been eaten by their husband's ex-wife!! lol

[@onetrickponysona2613]

To you, in 2,5 hours

[@sericsson1996]

From you, in 2,5 hours

[@_Helio_Art]

53:19 "Marley didn't leave much behind speakin of protection, unless that missin titan is like really really good" *smiles in warhmmer*

[@Verac1ty]

SPOILER I'd argue the Warhammer is the second best titan. It is described as very unefficient with energy since it creates all those structures but it was extremely destructive even when tybur's sister hadnt even trained with it

[@CaptainYeet16]

I love playing you guy's reactions while studying. 30 minutes of breaktime, watching the episode with you, and then back to studying for 1-2 hours with your discussion as background noise haha

[@Lrodpotato]

Regarding Caleb's theories about Ymir and the 9 titans, I think the dialogue said and the words used to name certain things by themselves disapprove his theory. They say that Ymir Fritz dies and her power splits into the 9 titans and then these 9 titans **created** the Eldian Empire and then oppressed other races calling them inferior and forced them to bear their children. The concept of "Eldians" didn't exist when Ymir was alive, it happened after her death. And remember that Eldians are also called the Subjects of Ymir. Which the word "Subjects" itself shows that they have no blood relation to her otherwise they would be called "the Children of Ymir" or something that makes it clear that "they" are of "her" by blood. Not to mention, they'd all be able to use the Founding Titan to its fullest potential if that was the case. Therefore, the 9 titans are her subjects and were chosen to inherit and be able to use her power. The same way the Jews were "chosen" to enter a covenant with God but the Jews themselves aren't related to God... Hopefully, what I said makes sense. Thus, the Fritz family members we have encountered technically are inherently different than the other "Eldians" or "Subjects of Ymir". Even though they refer to themselves as Eldian as well which was the case with Dina Fritz. From my perspective being Eldian is more like a nationality.

[@Dr0pic]

There possibly a civil war between titan shifters, after death of Ymir. Betting on Marley involved too, taking advantage of it. Just my theory. No way I believe Marley alone beat em with sword and shield.

[@dylanmorris7946]

I think the nationality claim may be a bit of a stretch. Their does appear to be some biological component to the titan powers since only Eldians can become them. I think a clan structure may fit better. Even if the 9 original titans following Ymir's death were not related, them inheriting the power made them all related in some fashion. At the very least it made them all Eldians. This meant that all of their descendants were part of the Eldeian race, the clan, while also being descendants of a particular titan, a branch or family within the clan. Those that came directly from the branch that the founding titan created may have actually been blood relatives of Ymir and thus became the royal family do to their special powers. The descendants from every other branch on the other hand are not as pure blooded as the founding titan bloodline, but are still Eldians, or clan members, none the less.

[@aohige]

The biggest problem with Grisha's belief in Ymir is that Eldians =! Ymir. Ymir may have been a saint, and most likely she was, but that has nothing to do with whether or not the Eldian Empire was benevolent.

[@Lrodpotato]

Yea Grisha's beliefs were fundamentally flawed. It kinda reminds of like the Roman Empire. The Roman Empire did some horrible stuff but they also made many advancements in societal structure where literacy and education rates among the common people was much higher, they revived many Ancient Greece's methods/perspectives on Art and then change things like the mediums they used, as well as made architectural and engineerial advancements such as the arch, vault and dome which lead to the creation of bridges, dam/reservoirs and aqueducts (which brought water to the people) making daily life easier for many. Not to mention, the invention of cement/concrete. Eldians may have done some great things like that using the power of titans but that's not exactly what most people remember about them in their world.

[@SpaceMechanic]

So that’s why Zeke has control (not complete control) over pure titans. He’s royalty on his mother’s side. Every-time I connect little dots in this story I get goosebumps 😆

[@Yal_Rathol]

this is just a theory, but it's also probably why his titan can talk. as a royal, his titan is better formed than eren's, annie's or reiner's, which means it can actually produce a voice, while eren's can only scream and snarl.

[@Lrodpotato]

@@Yal_Rathol This theory would work if it weren't for the fact that the Luggage Titan can talk as well. (And I doubt there's 2 people that have royal blood in Marley) And did you watch the Ilse's Notebook OVA?

[@Yal_Rathol]

@@Lrodpotato i did not. and i forgot the backpack titan can talk.

[@Verac1ty]

@@Yal_Rathol Our Ymirs titan also talks so yeah

[@Yal_Rathol]

@@Verac1ty ymir's titan has a different reason it could talk. i'm a manga reader, so that reason hasn't come up yet.

[@Cawckalorum]

Keep in mind that Grisha himself states that he can't translate those ancient texts that supposedly "disprove" the Marleyan recounting of history. The reality of the situation is that it's probably somewhere in the middle.

[@maribee3314]

Yes!!! I always feel ppl forget this and I think it's a huge detail to forget!!!😤

[@left.19]

They literally talk about this in the discussion.

[@Cawckalorum]

Didn't watch the video for an hour and a half before commenting, chill out there bud

[@left.19]

@@Cawckalorum I'm just pointing it out??? Lmaooo

[@RogueHippie13]

My favorite part about Gross, who everyone watching hates, is that he calls us out. Look back on that scene where he's saying "Everyone just wants violence. It's disgusting, but we enjoy it." He's looking right at the camera, at the viewers. It's the author calling us out a little.

[@InhalingAshes26]

Man I just want chapters 99-100 animated so so so bad. That's gonna be one of the coolest episodes of anime ever. Assuming AoT goes to a good studio post WIT

[@HORSESNDOGS9]

Here's praying for BONES

[@lvillarreal8865]

Still can't get over the fact that it's moving to another studio. Damn it.

[@mtgang2016]

@@lvillarreal8865 what its moving?

[@lvillarreal8865]

@@mtgang2016 they making s4 but with another studio

[@mtgang2016]

@@lvillarreal8865 thats unfortunate

[@lupusrosecourts]

*clears throat* HOLY MOTHER OF LORE!

[@Kazami-Yuuji]

Their discussion is the best kind of background stuff to listen to. So glad for the long discussion this time.

[@Dylster357]

Aha! I've figured it out! The "Power of the Titans" was *_magnets_* all along!

[@ammi104]

Really love how wise, intelligent, and open you both are, keeping the discussion critical yet formal.. Always am awestruck on how broad and deep your thoughts are! Listening to you guys interpret and share is definitely one of my favorite things to do here online. Thank you so much for the genuine reaction & discussion QwQ -I'm re-watching this video several times by this point lol-

[@Zidana123]

Jacob: "All the people on the island are Eldians." That's counterfactual, even from what we've gotten in the anime thus far :x The nobles weren't Eldians. S3P1 showed they were immune to the Founding Titan's mindwipe powers, and what's more, they claimed to be distinct from the general population, calling them as 'slaves' and saying they had 'slaves' blood,' and 'our blood is totally different from yours.' So while they seem to have forgotten the racial terminology of 'Eldian' vs 'Marleyan' over the past century of living within the walls, they were not themselves Eldian. Then you've got Mikasa's mother's people, named in S1 as the 'east-ocean-folk' who seem to be yet another different race. As well as the Ackermans, who are also immune to the mindwipe power and therefore probably also not Eldians.

[@Carsu12]

Ackermans are a bloodline created via titan science, aren't they?

[@seta2710]

@@Carsu12 yes but spoilers so hush up

[@mono8476]

how i understand it: eldian = nationality, subject of ymir = race

[@GTyellowjacket_aoe]

What the fat officer said “to exterminate all eldians” is exactly what Eren said to exterminate all titans in the world. Then the question is who is the real devil? Such a brilliant dialogue if u can compare what they said and the sarcasm behind the scene.

[@JD-jl4yy]

1:30:55 WRONG!! Remember how Grisha didn't allow Eren to go to the basement until he had a heated arguments with his mom about wanting to join the scouts? Only then did Grisha promise Eren to let him see the basement. Grisha DID learn from his mistake!

[@alexfung6321]

Someone send this episode to heaven, so Erwin will know what's in basement. Please.

[@Ajoi14]

I believe he is enjoying his time in hell not heaven XD

[@datzfatz2368]

@@Ajoi14 the Cruel World was Hell. Wherever Erwin is now, its probably better there^^ at least mroe peacfull.

[@Ajoi14]

@@datzfatz2368 I'm not a Levi fangirl, but I felt so bad for him, it is the second time he gives a promise to someone before his death but that one who is dying dies before he hears everything. He wanted to save Erwin so bad, but he couldn't. You can feel the pain in his voice, and his eyes!

[@datzfatz2368]

@@Ajoi14 theres nothing wrong with being a levi fan^^ he is an incredibly well written and tragic as hell character. i completley get what you mean^^

[@Ajoi14]

@@datzfatz2368 he is a very unique character. But I don't like when people make him and treat him like a God. He has positives and negatives like all other characters. Unlike all people, I like him because of his personality. I don't care about him being strong nor an Ackerman. I just like his humor and his manners.

[@lebocharp]

I'm at work but screw it if the Owl can hide his existence for so long I can hide my skiving for 2 hours. "For all the horrible stuff that happened in WW1 and 2 and history, it doesn't take much to get people there." - Jacob. can't be further from the truth. this line is gonna have so much weight for season 4. edit: i am the transcended mad-lad

[@karlhans8304]

Dont you mean "closer to the truth"?

[@verbalfallacy]

Rip Caleb misunderstanding the 9 titans not being blood related to Ymir Fritz. I think the one thing that every reactor I've watched has forgotten is the very brief mention in part one of season 3 that the puppet king was known as "King Fritz" and that the royal family had gone undercover with a different name as a noble family, "Reiss".

[@itachi2816]

About who is the "bad guys" here. We have the Marley story that says that the Eldian empire enslaved and made several atrocities with the world using its powers of titans, we have to look that this version may have been manipulated, trying to worsen the actions of the Eldia empire in order to facilitate things for Marley. We also have the version told by Grisha, where he tried to read some ancient texts about the Eldia empire, this version said that the empire of Eldia was in fact allied to the rest of the world and helped them to prosper using the powers of titan and that Marley betrayed them to steal his power. Although we must note here that Grisha was unable to really read much of that text in that old language, he simply believed that was the truth because "We are the descendants of Ymir!!", because he wanted to believe in that version. Besides that, these texts seems to have been made by Eldian's empire, so what guarantees that they also didn't manipulate the truth by writing those texts to improve their image? Looking at all this, I personally believe that Marley's version is yhe one closest to the truth. Besides, I think it's very unlikely that the anger that the world have with Eldian is the result of absolutely nothing bad.

[@Saucy62087]

I've come back to is; if I were creating an evil empire I would not leave capable rebels with a family name at large. A little rebellion is fine, but the rallying point seems odd. Sure someone can come from the ashes, but the same people who owned everything before. That seems sloppy.

[@Thoutzan]

To Eren (Isayama) 's Existentialism point of view, there is no such thing as Sin or Mandate from heaven, Choices are only things that matters - whatever horrible things or glories things done by the past generations, it has nothing to do with the younger generations, because those are not their choices. AOT talk about freedom and consequences of choices all the time (by Eren and Levi especially) - Grisha and his sister and Eren didn't oppress Marlians, Marlians are choosing to oppressing Grisha. Grisha deprived Zeke's choices thus faced consequences, etc.

[@mygodwhatdidyoudo]

Thoutzan that makes a lot of sense

[@Thoutzan]

@@mygodwhatdidyoudo Thanks! I am so thrilled I want to put my thoughts together: Eren's mom said it clearly - when children are born to this world they are already great enough. Not entitled or condemned to anything, not "meant to be" anything, be it Great leaders, freedom fighters, or devils, sinners, they are NOT. It's up to their own choices to become any of those, and they face their own consequences of those choices. That's existentialism in its fundies. Also the "beautiful cruel world" brought up again and again, which is basically Isayama's version of "Hell is other people".

[@windlink4everable]

I'm a transcendent madlad! What a great discussion video! One of my favorite things about this channel is how much you guys go in depth for this show.

[@rasengan124]

Windlink 4ever your profile pic went so well with Caleb’s “and we might get some real Reiner focus at some point” 😂

[@ken-yo2hz]

Fun fact: Isayama told the producers to make sure Sergeant Major Gross' speech is directed at the viewer.

[@chibisphere]

31:00 I know they wont read this but to clarify, the manga has some vague dates and some specific dates, but the timeline is relatively consistent, contrary to their commentary. Its been over 100 years by this part of the timeline since the wall raised, just barely, and we can calculate this from info already given. There is even more dates and math that works relatively closely for how many kings ruled between Ymir to now, but i dont want to spoil with manga info given past this point.

[@Ivy94F]

chibisphere Exactly. I think this is something only a manga reader knows because we’ve had so much time in between chapters to analyze these dates. It works out perfectly. You can even take notes.

[@tfkrockhard]

EXCITED!!! Who needs sleep when you got AoT reaction?!

[@mochi-yi6zl]

I think i have theory about eldian's origin, regarding 1:28:40 i think eldian people is a race, and not a ymir's descendant. but ymir fritz is also from that race, so when the deal with the devil happen, everyone from that race is "compatible" with titan power (or just regular titan transformation) maybe because of same dna or something. and the royal blood is the actual people who is the descendant from ymir fritz, which the only one who able to wield full founding titan power. i am referring to jacob"s answer that eldians are coming from 9 people that has titan power.

[@Carsu12]

That's all assuming that Devil stuff isn't bullshit story

[@kymerahYT]

2:16:37 all is now explained in the manga. brilliance. SPOILERS: Marley experimented with the Titan abilities, they gave Annie different things to eat. What I got from that is her, Reiner and Zeke all ate somethings related to the Warhammer Titan so they can harden into crystals like it. Or they could of all been injected with the Warhammer spinal fluid before eating their shifters. This is also why Falco got some bestial features when he turned into the Jaw, as he transformed into a mindless Titan via drinking Zeke's spinal fluid, but that's obvious.. So Rod had some spinal fluid from the Warhammer and labelled it "Armour" (perhaps labelled as such to keep the existence of the Warhammer a secret), Eren ate it and got a taste of the power. As for the other vile Kenny swiped from Rod's bag, and was used on Armin, I believe that to just be regular Titan spinal fluid, the type they use when they turn Eldians Titan on the shore of Paradis. :) Happy 2020!

[@aleexozaki]

Transcendent madlad here! Great discussion as always. Here for next week

[@newdaydiscoveries1828]

A 2 and 1/2 hour long discussion....you guys spoil us so much! I'm not sleeping now :-)

[@matreidomar]

Yep I'm gonna need some popcorn for this

[@ptr4410]

Eren started remembering those memories because he just read everything from his father's books. Just a heads up

[@JudgmenTaichi]

Gotta save the name for the next episode. THEY KNOW WE'RE WAITING FOR IT lol

[@MOONFALLx.]

Bruh i cant wait for whose memories are these

[@MegiMoon]

@@MOONFALLx. I know right? :D Let's see Caleb's time loop theories XD

[@AllTheArtsy]

The name of The Owl and the name of the Titan Gonna be fucking hypppppe

[@raaaaqj4uh]

@@MOONFALLx. when I read that in the manga my jaw was hung for a solid minute . This opens a floodgate of theories.

[@wickywickyjoka]

Got me some mcdumpster chicken nuggets, a liter of soda, and my blanky. 2 1/2 hours? Bring it. Edit: You know it's getting real when Caleb almost drops f-bombs. XD

[@thestairguy]

Hahaha, I was thinking the same thing. He almost F bombed twice and he barely caught the first one 😅

[@Joenah5]

I love the joy that comes with seeing SoS posting a 2.5 hour long video.

[@Disrupted_SP]

NEXT EPISODE: From the author that brought you "maybe the true titans were the friends we made along the way?" COMES: "You really were the attack on titan" Look forward to it.

[@Lrodpotato]

What the hell was Caleb thinking when he said they needed to be trained in ODM gear? 🤣🤣

[@にゃんこーぽん]

loooool you really did 2 hours discussion. you're the best🤣

[@Flood55]

This episode literally flips the entire premise of the story on its head. The story begins as the last refugees of humanity fight to survive in a world dominated by titans. In actuality, the world is dominated by an 20th century-like humanity, and the characters we have come to know are really a part of the "titans" of the story (the only people that can turn into man-eating monsters). This includes both the Eldians that remained on the continent and those that fled to a remote island, whose civilization was protected with three walls and the threat of ultimate retaliation, and whose memories were wiped to ensure those inside were never the wiser. Welcome to the true Attack On Titan!

[@MyTiredAccount]

Mikasa with messy hair is life

[@thestairguy]

That was pretty funny, they spent A Lot of time on that artwork 😅

[@rubengarciavaro1277]

Gosh that was enjoyable. Long but the discussion was good. Good job Caleb extrapolating the shiz out of this ep. lol. I love the moral ambiguity of this show and how Everything ultimately thematically falls back to this "cruel world" and all the character are just trying to find the best way to live in such a harsh reality.

[@ArtficialFlvrz]

What the hell was Caleb talking about when he said they needed to be trained with ODM gear? Does he not realize nobody in Marley has any idea what that even is because none of them have ever seen it? The Walls were completely isolated for 100 years, nobody knows what they're inventing over there, they needed something to fight the "mysterious titans" outside. The only reason Reiner/Bert/Annie could use it is because they literally joined the Wall's military as children and learned it at the same time as Eren and everyone else. I doubt Zeke has any fucking clue how to work that stuff at all. He didn't even know what the hell he was looking at when he first got here and took it from Miche.

[@Lrodpotato]

Lolol. 🤣 I made this exact comment but only with the first line. It was like Caleb usually your so clever and on top of things? What happened?

[@LordBlazer27]

Lol 1:00:10 *spoilers* That was a hella smooth deflection, that should get some clarification next episode, but everyone would take that explanation at face value. _It’s the beard...._

[@yorozuya1992]

As a manga reader, I'm not sure what he deflected from, can you remind me?

[@LordBlazer27]

Fawzi Alomari *spoilers* It’s a ‘curse’....

[@yorozuya1992]

@@LordBlazer27 I know about that, just didnt realize that it made them older looking apparently

[@LordBlazer27]

@@yorozuya1992 *spoilers* I'm actually not 100% about that, I knew the gist of major points brought up around this point, but I didn't get the finer details b/c I figured I could wait for the anime. There's evidence supporting this (Uri looking so much older than his brother Rod before the end) and evidence against it - since.... *last minute-SPOILER warning anime-onlys since I think this comes up in the very next episode* A major reason Grisha gave Eren the serum was because he was out of time...

[@gll447]

It's kinda ironic that Grisha looks older when he is talking to Kruger rather than when he gets eaten by Eren 😁 beards make you look so much older

[@boljon96]

The thumbnail of this episode is the summary of the entire series pretty much: Caleb: OH MY GOD WHAT THE FU- Jacob: *Maniacally Laughing*

[@admcleo]

Small detail. At the very start the smiling titan snaps mom in half before eating her. No other titan at no other time does anything like that.

[@milesmorales-ii5hg]

Adam McLeod shes jealous💀

[@HORSESNDOGS9]

Yours is the only channel that people will watch for over 2 hours to hear you discuss one anime episode I hope you guys realize how absolutely amazing that is, and it's all because you two are so amazing :)

[@TentacleFarmer]

Do these two know about Eren’s dream in the first chapter of the manga where he wakes up from ‘someone’ (trying to keep things vague and spoiler free) saying “See you later, Eren”? Also, any idea why this line was cut from the first episode of the anime?

[@AllTheArtsy]

The positioning of Ymir's backstory in the Forest of Giant Trees instead of after the basement reveal is truly one of the best adaptation choices the anime could have ever made. This is so true!

[@pukkandan]

The armour of the Armour titan and the crystal made by the other titans are not exactly the same. First of all, crystallization takes a lot of energy while the armour is automatically created during the transformation. But the crystal seems to be much harder than the armor. Also, the Armoured titan can also produce the crystal on will. Remember when he was scaling the wall.. About the "armour" label - my theory is that it is the spinal fluid from Armoured titan. Since the wall titans look exactly the same as collosal, we know that atleast in theory, that it is possible to create mindless titans with a shifter titan's attributes. Furthermore, I don't think that Eren just randomly drank that vial. He seemed to instinctively know what to do - similar to how he knew to bite his hand in S1 and to punch the smiling titan in S2.

[@dominicgunderson]

It was still the most bullshit moment of the show. It felt like such a dues ex machina, almost made me drop the show.

[@madmonkurougeforpirateking870]

There is an important line between "a memory ...so it was you Dina" in the manga that was cut off in this episode for some reason... In the manga when eren wook up from his dream, he said "a memory, *so* *everything* *in* *that* *book* *was* *true* *after* *all* ...so it was you Dina" which pretty much confirms that Eren brought those memories back by reading grisha's book.

[@MrDdog678]

*Confidently* "maybe they teach them ODM gear!" "uh.. n-no.."

[@ImAviex]

The really crazy thing for me about these flashbacks is seeing all the Eldians that are the Titans we have seen throughout the series. It's chilling once you notice it.

[@AllTheArtsy]

Me, seeing this on my Sub feed: OHHH I'm so ready to see Caleb's head explode Me, noticing the 2+ hour run time: okay, let's go get ourselves a snack 8 minutes in: Oh, I AM SO PISSED AT THEIR SUBTITLE. When Grisha was asked by one of his compatriots how he could read the ancient language in the old scrolls/books, he said that HE DIDN'T UNDERSTAND IT AT ALL.He was just guestimating based on the pictures. Propaganda goes both ways. Marley thinks Eldians are the devil who plundered and murdered. Eldians think they brough civilization to the world. I really hope Jacob tells Caleb about that. At episode end: Don't worry, Jacob. The Titan's name will probably be revealed next episode. We're all waiting for it with you lol

[@bunsbuns9072]

At 49:55 Caleb actually points out that Grisha didn't really know what the history book said.

[@AllTheArtsy]

@@bunsbuns9072 Yep, was extremely relieved that he was actually combing through the episode and seemed to have different subtitles that time.

[@AllTheArtsy]

@Rainā Buraun ((I just went back to re-read it and nope, it was over Kruger and Eren's faces-- I think the boat sinking was just too epic that I merged them in my head))

[@meruhisu]

the amount of times caleb has been referencing ATLA lately, i'm living for it

[@aceA21A21]

I look forward to your reactions as much as the episodes themselves lol. Keep up the good work and SUSUMEEEE

[@unigon794]

You guys plus blind wave and imon are my favorite reactors for paying attention to details and having great discussions. Love how you guys love the show too!

[@IceFear266]

Absolutely amazing discussion. I want to add my own little thought about the existence of Ackermans/Oriental clan (specifically the Ackermans) inside the walls. What if the Ackermans were the native people of Paradise island? This setup would perfectly reflect real history ONCE AGAIN in this show. People peacefully living on their little island, these Eldian invaders come and take their land, build their walls, and kill the native people because they can't control them (which stems from the fact that they're not of the same race, again, racial conflict). Its also stated in the first part of season 3 that the Ackermans were soldiers of the king, and that they protected him. This could be these native people trying to compromise with the invaders by protecting them, so that they won't kill them. But the Eldians do kill them eventually, because it all boils down to power and control. The Ackermans are STRONG, and no matter how loyal they claim to be, they can't TRULY be controlled by the king. It makes sense, why they were chased away and killed. Edit: I'm a transcendent madlad!

[@SilasWolfe]

Take a shot every time he says OH MY GOD. Take only half a shot when he says OH MY GOSH. Snort a bump of cocaine every time he says WOW. Subbed in anticipation of your season 4 reactions.

[@atroe143]

Youd be dead by the 3rd minute in lol

[@dirak418]

Kids crossing a military checkpoint without permission "I can't wait for this, it will be interesting" yeah right...

[@aisorymizy1580]

Jacob like alll manga-readers, smiling with "Weclome to the hell I couldn't spoil you for years. It's time to your mind to suffer"

[@aakashakki2317]

After so many years of waiting , finally

[@Nolorubio23]

Love you guys from Spain. I truly love see you guys enjoying this show so much as I do. 2 hours discussion seems little bit when i finish to see, really entertaining. Thank you for that.

[@lalalalisa41]

2 hours and a half of this?? Hell yes!! "Eren... if you think killing these two will bring an end to everything...you're gravely mistaken." -Ymir, 2x09 "Enemy? If I said that, the--" -Also Ymir, 2x09 So guess we know who the "real enemy" is now. It was the world all along! And Ymir was right. Even if Eren killed Reiner and Bertholdt, he'd be gravely mistaken that everything will finally come to an end. It would not fix the world's perception of their race. The world hates them and sees them as monsters. They were the "evil monsters" that the world wanted to save humanity from... If this was the reality (what Grisha and Fay experienced...god, that poor girl) that people like Reiner, Bertholdt, Annie, and Ymir had to face, then it was indeed a cruel world they were living in. Bertholdt's inner monologue during "Descent" has so much weight now... Finding out who the Smiling Titan was was heartbreaking, especially knowing what happened to her in the end. She unknowingly killed her husband's second wife, killed Hannes, and then died by Eren's hand when he set the titans on her. The only positive was her finally being set free from her nightmare through death... Also, loved the fact that all the mindless titans we see here showed up in S1! The Santa Claus Titan that ate Eren, the big-eyed titan that ate Gross was the titan that ate Mina Carolina, and there's also another titan that ate Thomas. It's just so awesomely crazy!

[@rasengan124]

Lalisa T There’s one more positive that came from Dina, but that would be a spoiler ;)

[@Fennelflower]

I honestly don't know why you guys don't have more subscribers. I could listen to your discussions all day. You definitely deserve them! PS. I am a transcendent mad lady

[@Thoutzan]

Just finished the whole video. Yours are always the latest and the best reaction of AOT I wait for every week. Thank you for the good work !!

[@emems6620]

Found a comment recommending you, I already love your voices and I'm ready to listen to intellectuals talk about it to us impatient manga readers

[@Collyflodge]

I feel Jacob overestimates how much of the manga they covered. It matches up pretty well with the chapter to episode / arc to series ratios

[@kana22693]

Yah, it's the wait between chapters. lol

[@lordsidorak4694]

I am now a Transcendent Madlad! Had a blast listening to you two discussing this amazing show. Keep it up guys!