Space Jockey "Giants" of Aliens Apocalypse

[@keithmckellar9913]

I like the idea of the space jockeys and they could have done so much more with them

[@jsin7418]

Ridley Scott actually did a shit ton of amazing and deep stuff with the Space Jockeys, the studio (as they do) just made him cut about 80% of their content out of the movie.

[@keithmckellar9913]

@@jsin7418 did not know that but it makes sense and it reminds of the jockeys voice that they cut from the destress signal

[@cynthiajohnson6756]

Yeah having them clam shell open so a bad tv scifi alien hops out ruined the mystery of Gigor's creation, which obviously wasn't that

[@Opossum_Punk]

Prometheus drowned ENDLESS possibilities in the bathtub then pretended it was doing you a favor.

[@KurtMidas1510]

@@Opossum_Punk Prometheus and covernant is a big pile of fanfservise bs. They had the opportunity to Show us the awesome alien which everybody Was wondering and in the end it's a fcking human.

[@sonofeyeabovealleffoff5462]

This is far superior to what we got. I remember reading this comic hack in 2005 in high school at a comic shop. This is cosmic horror where it's done right. You're not supposed to win in these kinds of scenarios. I love this story.

[@theghostoftom]

I liked the interpretation in the books, where the jockeys showed up on the xeno homeworld and saved the last few marines by killing the attacking xenos with a gravity weapon. The crew escaped. Then they let the crew know they had followed them home to an infected Earth and would be killing whoever won the Alien Earth war. Because to them humans and xenos are just nasty bugs in need of squishing.

[@removethatpfpusubhumanfuckingp]

no

[@randomdaveUK]

The Xenomorphs need hosts though. The entire idea of a Xenomorph homeworld is ridiculous. They're parasitic in nature and should only exist where other lifeforms are found. Think of any parasite on Earth. They're drawn to other forms of life to propagate. Xenomorphs are no different. Could cocoon themselves and stick to asteroids to ride around

[@AbuHajarAlBugatti]

Its so booooring just more alien invasion drama. I like the question „where do we come from“ way more and there being a supreme species who atleast ruled the universe in the far past. In the comics they are none more than just another predator figures

[@K3end0]

​@@AbuHajarAlBugatti Exactly. The question "where do we come from" is FAR more interesting that whatever the actual answer is. Questions are made *not* to be resolved but explored. Alien and Aliens work since we are not looking for an answer, simply seeing how us poor humans survive when exploring the consequences of someone else's question.

[@AbuHajarAlBugatti]

@@K3end0 what works? These are two braindead splatter movies with barely anything to think about mate. Speak about what YOU want to please your childhood nostalgia as you cant appreciate good stories. You want your own story then write your own one „A alien must be mysteeerious otherwise its not a scaaary being“ is the most re*ard take I hear and Alien is the only franchise people say it with. Nobody explained about resident evil or lord of the rings or whatever else comes into mind. Its riddleys idea, his story and the comics are fanfiction. Go cry about it

[@MagicE13]

I remember visiting an RPG website that had really cool lore for the Jockeys, everything was biomechanical so they could fuse with their tech, they grew everything in an automated way, a bio-metal organ breaking down surrounding materials in the environment and allocate them accordingly to fit the desired purpose. I still believe this was the original idea behind the Alien, but it broke free of the Jockeys control and gave itself purpose, kind of like a Biomechanical AI. If you watch the deleted scene with Dallas and Bret being Egg-morphed, the surrounding machinery of the Nostromo looks more like it is being consumed or repurposed. I also have a theory that the Alien was consuming the Ore being transported, we are not told what ore is being transported, but what Ash said about its metabolism being extremely high would make sense if 'what' they were carrying was rich in minerals.

[@MoonRegolith]

Can you remember what the site might be called? There might be an Internet Archive entry in the Wayback Machine for the site

[@MagicE13]

@@MoonRegolith I can not, sorry. I only remember the details because the Space Jockey lore was really cool, probably why I hated Prometheus so much.

[@dbzgef]

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[@CleverGirlAAH]

Which would also make sense for it to have acidic blood- It reconstitutes materials rapidly. Interesting stuff!! Hard to say how much of that kind of stuff can be planned, but I love those potential happy accidents.

[@MagicE13]

@@CleverGirlAAH Yes! somebody gets it.

[@mxgonzo]

Why couldn't the 'xenomorph' just be what the title of the first movie implied, an Alien. When the first movie came out, I believed that the space jockey came across this alien species on a planet somewhere, was infected and succumbed to it. That's what it does. Lies dormant until it can infect a new host. No backstory or explanation to where it comes from, it is what it is. An Alien.

[@sonicguyver7445]

Yes, exactly! Its nature is all we need to know. The very unknown nature of the xenomorph is part of what makes it so scary.

[@armanireyes753]

I wholeheartedly agree and that’s still my head canon for these creatures. They’re like hornets or a pack of wolves in the wild. Just some weird animal like creature that doesn’t think it hunts, and if you happen to come across it then oh well good luck. All this lore of their creation and true purpose and yadayada is all bs to me.

[@shishoka]

It would have been a far more frightening movie if that was what happened. They wake up the space jockey and he looks horrified. Instead of shortening his lifespan to tell us all how much we suck he just looks around horrified and asks why they're here (since he's been in syspended animation he would recognize them). When the crew says they got the invitation he tells them the message was a distress call for his people, but a warning for humans. Then the chestburster hits.

[@jessikapiche6097]

@@shishoka TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU. That is exactly what should have happened. ''We created you... but we cannot give you more time... we are no ''gods'', only your creators... Sadly we didn't create only humans, but other...things... They turned against us, so we created a perfect predator... to deal with it... it escaped...it spread...like a desease...like a plague...'' The words of the robot echoed each sentences...translating even the intonation to some degree... -''So i am doomed...'' say the old company owner... The robot translate the words... -"I am sorry... i wish i was able to give you more life...but only through natural selection and evolution can you really 'evolve'...We have come to realize that with time... We should never have tried to play 'gods'..." Suddenly the giant grasp his torso, visibly in intense pain, falling on his knees, raise his hands to the old man face, almost like a caress... -"Don't play god ever!...GO AWAY!...GO AWAY NOW!!!!" The rest is history... :)

[@jessyavila5317]

Not to me I'd like an story/movie

[@torpedoboy4]

Imagine if this was turned into an anime with the same level of dedication and attention as Akira.

[@ganggang363]

Gay

[@ganggang363]

@@lunarvvolf9606 no, i dont like any of the new aliens, i only like the comic book versions where there are like, yknow, animal hybrid aliens, like crocodile aliens and such, kinda goofy but cool to see design wise

[@seanbrotherton542]

I think the comic books had some much better ideas. I always thought the original jockey looked like a giant size race and not an engineer with an outer suit. My guess is Ridley Scott had the same idea initially. I'm not at all impressed with the "black goo" idea. I always thought the eggs produced a face hugger and the resulting alien was part alien and part whatever the host was resulting in an alien perfectly designed to hunt that type of host. This makes them highly adaptable to whatever environment they end up in.

[@petesandwich3246]

Ridley Scott did not come up with the concept nor story, he just directed it. So Prometheus was not the original intention or concept Alien came from. Prometheus is pretty much Scott trying to make “raised by wolves” to only be forced to tie to Alien by Fox.

[@nicholasdickens2801]

It was a huge creature in Alien.

[@guest9243]

Me too I like the idea of them being a different alien race than being a suit. I mean they are almost about 15 to 20 feet tall. And an engineer is like 7 feet?

[@nebulousy]

Yup, 100% there’s no way Ridley had the Prometheus concept in mind when he made the original. The comics stayed true to the vision. The filmmakers did not.

[@Cyberpunk9000]

This idea makes a lot more sense to me. Kind of like an autoimmune disease that uses its hosts genes to attack its self

[@strikethespike816]

That actually looks way cooler than what we got with prometheus. Or the other alien movies past Aliens. I miss the old cyborg Space jockeys. The lame albino underwear modeling engineers are just bland by comparison. Always felt like prometheus was originally written to be a different movie.

[@zealot777]

I agree. The "Space Jockey" from Alien was quite different than the lame and rushed writing of the Prometheus version. The mentioned comic version is a better version.

[@idipped2521]

Prometheus was lame as fuck

[@RM_VFX]

It was quite different before Lindelof rewrote it into its "lovely" final form.

[@koenvandamme6901]

The worst thing about Prometheus is that it's one of the main reasons Del Toro didn't keep trying to do At The Mountains of Madness

[@theonewholurks]

​@@idipped2521 no it wasn't.

[@sonicguyver7445]

That is so much better than what we got in Prometheus. The idea of the Space Jockeys being some ancient race with a freakish look by our standards is part of the mystery that made them so fascinating. They are in essence an alien race created by H.R. Giger and everything about them should reflect that.

[@EternalRoman]

The main reason that both PROMETHEUS and A. COVENANT failed mostly on the narrative is that Ridley Scott decided to avoid the source material that ALIEN creator and writer Dan O'Bannon had made for the Xenomorphs and the Space Jockeys themselves. Scott himself said "I can't tell a story, I'm not a storyteller" and this is clearly seen on his two last attempts. ALIEN was successful only in part of Scott's approach on the filming of the script, but Mostly the actual ALIEN creator Dan O'Bannon and to an extent Ron Shusset should had gotten more credit due to the story and script. Of course O'Bannon's inspiration for the entire story also gets credit, the Late H.R. Giger. Yet, we can see that by straying too far from the actual creator's idea is how you ruin not just a movie, but also a franchise. Scott's obsession with robots, religious stuff and Michael Fassbender is not ALIEN, because O'Bannon whom also used H.P. Lovecraft as inspiration for his story. This means that the title ALIEN was not just relegated to the creatures, but to space or the cosmos itself. What's worse is that Ridley Scott is at it again, because he can't stand that James Cameron surpassed him by indeed respecting the source material more and just added some stuff to it to make it even more iconic. The ALIEN franchise needs new blood and keep Ridley Scott away from it.

[@earthcitizen3939]

The movies would have been better if they wouldn't have cut a lot of important scenes, at least when it comes to Prometheus.

[@CleverGirlAAH]

Add to that Damon Lindelof, one of JJ Abrams's/Bad Reboot little gremlins, writing on Prometheus... It never stood a chance. I want to say in his scripts he even mentions Jesus was abducted by the Engineers and returned to Earth... etc. etc.... JUST absolute idiots running the show these days...

[@EternalRoman]

@@CleverGirlAAH Totally Agree

[@yeahoblivionmaster]

​@@earthcitizen3939yeah when they cut all the proto Indo European stuff it really just lost all it's depth

[@earthcitizen3939]

@@yeahoblivionmaster What do you mean by the proto Indo-European things? Do you mean the mural that they found in the cave? That should have been given a better explanation, it was done too fast and was too vague.

[@Lazarus1095]

My thought is that under no circumstances should a Weyland-Yutani android be allowed anywhere near a non-human sapient species. There is something about android programming that makes them go completely genocidal whenever they meet a new species of sentient life, it appears.

[@CombineWatermelon]

Based

[@astronaut8917]

I wish they had done these aliens in the prequels and shown a Xeno-space jockey as the big bad

[@WickedScott]

The Space Jockey was the perfect example of less is more. It was a set piece made to suggest something ancient and alien. All attempts at expanding it's mythos are terrible failures for that reason. The unknown is scary.

[@rosesareredbutzerglingssti9290]

This story (and the Giants) are all far better than what we get with films like Prometheus or Alien Covenant. *_This_* is the Alien sequel that we needed, not that trash.

[@nickosman1556]

That's your opinion

[@rosesareredbutzerglingssti9290]

@@nickosman1556 Oh, shut up! I hate this new lore where the xenomorphs are creation of a stupid android playing mad scientist.

[@nickosman1556]

@@rosesareredbutzerglingssti9290 c o p e

[@nickosman1556]

@@rosesareredbutzerglingssti9290 cope

[@nickosman1556]

@@lunarvvolf9606 you have the right to dislike it, I have the right to love it as a fan of the original Aliens too, it's all good pal

[@richardhart9204]

I always thought the Space Jockey was the captain/pilot of a merchant-ship/warship with a cargo of alien eggs meant for sale or battle, who simply fell victim to an accidentally activated face-hugger.

[@Leondrius]

How they were meant to be until Ridley Scott hijacked their design and backstory. It's a shame we never got this version in a movie.

[@ianmccarty990]

That's kinda backwards. I mean I get it but you're saying he hijacked a work based off of his work. So it doesn't fit. It might be better but just say that

[@Leondrius]

@@ianmccarty990 The story of Alien was based on Dan O'Bannon's writing. Ridley Scott was the director. No, I won't be saying that.

[@ianmccarty990]

@@Leondrius fine but we're not talking about Dan O'Bannon's writing. We're talking about the film interpretation.

[@Leondrius]

@@ianmccarty990 No, I'm the one who started talking, and I'm talking about how the story was meant to be.

[@hoodoowilliams5187]

@@Leondrius not necessarily meant to be that way since Dan O Bannon only wrote the original Alien and nothing else in the franchise... Whatever comic book writers did is purely seperate. They weren't working off Dan's specific instructions or anything.

[@rossthompson9039]

I feel like in 1979 Ridley had no plan for the space jockey, I think it was just a cool design that was added to the movie. It was an easy way to create more movies later on but there is no way he had this engineer plan penned out over 40 years ago.

[@michaelwills1926]

Indeed. The jockey is simply what happens when H.R. Geiger is allowed freedom of design; Ridley Scott has no notion to this day what it’s really supposed to be.

[@theinstantnoodle9628]

You can tell the creators of the comic did their homework. Such fantastic artwork.

[@Zarrov]

the original idea behind the scenes that was driving artists like Geiger was that alien ship did not had crew in traditional understanding of that word, instead they were part of the ship. Artwork depicts multiple stations being "manned" permanently, where machine, architecture, biology and alien are mixed together. Ship was "grwoing" its crew "into" their stations. I dont think there should be idea of any "race" in particular. This idea is interesting and conssistent with what was presented and emotionally constructed by viewers. Other ideas, like splitting alien ship and xenomorphs is not-originally Scott planned to have separate structure-piramid-with xenomorph eggs inside. Budget cuts made him move them to cargo hold of the ship. Original idea is a departure from what we see on screen, a big one. However idea of crew mixed with the ship is consistent. Thus it holds value. As consequence I think that dychotomy between space jockeys and xenomorphs makes no sense, it would be far more "alien" and hororr-like if there was no conflict, no war, just one organism/goal. Ship designed to carry the eggs, crew mixed with the ship or rather being born out of ship into perpetual servitude, and falling victim of its cargo that doesn't seem to be cargo, and ship that doesn't seem to be ship, machine that is not machine...and so on and so forth. Purposefully weird, unusal, contrary-alien. Outside of what we can comprehend. It would be far more interesting to make xenomorphs the effect and purpose of the ship and its crew.

[@rapidraptor6406]

I love the RPG lore that allows for jockeys and engineers to co-exist, with the jockeys as a far more ancient race than even the engineers, and the engineers technology os based off theirs

[@neatwheat]

I like the style of this much better than what was the Prometheus movie. An enigmatic cosmic horror background story like this seems to fit much better with the original movie than the weird mix of rule-of-cool space action sprinkled with a few shocker moments that Ridley put together for his sequel movie.

[@HenchmenNo616]

The Jockey ships flying on vertical axis makes way more sense/looks visually better

[@adambowling1831]

The Space Jockey was awesome and I loved the mystery behind it

[@EricLinstone]

Yeah, for me, this comic was the canon for the Space Jockeys. I still liked Prometheus and Covenant but... it was hard to reconcile the new lore.

[@RM_VFX]

The implication of what these guys were was so much more intriguing than what Prometheus gave us. I dreamed for years of seeing the remnants of a Giger designed society where people were fused with their technology. Finding out it's just a guy in a suit is so boring. I would've loved to see the pyramid and the egg laying machine brought back in the a 3rd or 4th movie. Even AVP kind of hinted at it with the Aztec pyramids .

[@robertogurrola7465]

except it's not a suit, it's literally fused to his body

[@jwenneberg]

Explaning the space jockey's skeleton as a spacesuit was one the most ridiculous ideas in Prometheus. I wonder what H. R. Giger thought of the decision?

[@gimpytheimp]

Far better take than making everything all connected like Prometheus and Covenant did. Like if David made the Xenomorph, how did an entire batch of eggs end up on that ship in Alien or became a galactic colonizing threat to humans in Aliens?

[@paulaburrows8660]

Sounds like a good story, certainly better than the later movies we got. It explores a little more of the history of these two races but, still maintains that wonderful mystery that worked so well in Alien.

[@YomamaYodaddyYobjtchassGranny]

I think aliens dark decent story does justice to the aliens story and space jockey

[@cases2939]

Such a disappointment for me that Ridley Scott didn't follow the tantalizing narrative thread that such a truly ALIEN species as the "Space Jockey" presented. Instead choosing to tie them to humanity as some kind of ancient human precursor. Sad they were reduced by the writing of the narrative to "a man in a suit."

[@theonewholurks]

Your hating on the wrong guy. It was re written and not ridlys fault.

[@cases2939]

@@theonewholurks I do blame the boss-man. He could have accepted a different script. It's not hate, it was just a mistake.

[@francisscainlebref9609]

These mysterious design are much more faithful to Giger than any of the sequels

[@godisjihyo3615]

i liked prometheus overall but i was so disappointed when they made the space jocket a moderately tall alien wearing a massive suit. it deserves to be a massive biomechanical being

[@Cuttingtorch]

I was a Dark Horse fan in the early 90's and remember an issue where the ovamorphs were used as food. They were sold in the markets by the local inhabitants and when one emerged to attack one of the jockey's race he just ate it immediately. I believe this was left out.

[@StefanXXXII]

That was a different civilization & race, wholly separate from the Space Jockeys. I believe the giant humanoids who collected & cooked eggs in that one-shot Dark Horse published story were officially known as "Reapers." The art was illustrated by UK comics legend Simon Bisley, of Lobo(DC) and Judge Dredd fame.

[@TheJohno95]

Ah, for a world where Alien 3 and up were never made and we got films based on the Dark Horse comic book series...

[@greenmedic88]

It's amusing to think of the Space Jockeys as their species version of the space truckers of the Nostromo in the original film. Just an alien ship full of truckers transporting a shipment of eggs, rather than alien engineers on some ritualistic religious mission to seed planets with bioengineered life.

[@MRFROGHELLO]

This sounds like it would of been a great movie. Hopefully ALIEN:ROMULUS will be good.

[@strangeyk1890]

loved the video, gave me the sense of mystery again i havent had since the first alien film good job.

[@ivayloivanov7231]

This looks better than last alien movie!

[@wentzr]

Apocalypse is easily my fav as well. I was a fan of the dark horse comics when they were coming out but i had stopped collecting by the time apocalypse was released. I just recently picked this series up off ebay after setting out on my quest to fill in all the holes in my collection. I was absolutely completely blown away and had no clue what i was holding in my hand before i read it. So good. 100% this series was my absolute favorite. The HR Gigerisms of this series was precisely what i was expecting and hoping for when going to see prometheASS on opening night. Man was i disappointed by that film

[@georgekostaras]

this story is much better than what we got in prometheus

[@Iceflkn]

Perhaps the suits worn were meant to simulate a space jockey. Maybe the technology that ran this ship only answered to the space jockeys and the engineers usurped it?

[@burimsaliji23]

Nice video 😊 I always was fascinated by the space jockey,it's such an incredible thing

[@linuxzone92]

nice, I love alien horror movies, like the thing.

[@zerofreespeech3002]

I love aliens who are super old like in the video and halo precursors too

[@MrDolearon]

My friend proposed a theory that the engineers are alien "synthetics" because how they operate does not seem to make sense, seeing as it seems the space jockeys use similier designs but are much larger the engineers could be the space jockeys equivalent of Android drone.

[@Antimortem]

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[@moss8702]

I would've even accepted a class-based military system instead of what we got. The engineer we see could've been a warrior class (Since he was obviously vastly superior to the ones on his home planet you see in Requiem), and the Space Jockey could've been another race or class of alien like a Navigator from Dune or Warhammer 40K. They could've written this so many other ways.

[@JaguarCats]

The more I look at it, the more I feel that Prometheus and this took inspirations from "The Mountains of Madness" where in both stories, mankind learned of his origins. Where in both cases man encounters ANOTHER terrifying creation/left over from their creator's experiments.

[@45proteinconsumer]

i always wondered what these things were in the movies. glad to be enlightened!

[@CALL0US.]

The interior of that ancient ship, straight up must’ve smelt like cat shit

[@sonofeyeabovealleffoff5462]

That thing was floating in space for over a few hundred million years. If it hadn't rotted, then I assume it didn't reek. Their ships are bio-mechanical, but made exactly of what we don't know. They used to call the Space Jockey ships in video games "Bone-Ships"

[@DEATH-THE-GOAT]

It did! I was the only one who survived when the xenomorphs attacked.

[@TheKain202]

@@DEATH-THE-GOAT not necessarily. For all we know, they colonized a different arena of the Galaxy with only a small overlap with what would later become human controlled space. Keep on mind, that in this unofficial canon, all their artifacts are derelicts. One on a planetoid at the ass end of nowhere, the other could have been drifting for a billion years before being ensnared by that planets gravity and becoming an artificial moon. There's no elaboration in this story where exactly in the Galaxy is that outpost the later half of the story takes place at. Tho, it's as likely that all their achievements were long since ground to dust by the geological processes on whatever worlds they were at. With the one depicted in the story surviving because the world its at is geologically dead. Three billion years is a long ass time, long enough to recycle the crust, at least on earth, twice over, barring primordial remnants here and there.

[@juanisol8275]

It's a shame that they had humanized the engineers too much, although who knows, maybe in the future they will be replaced (it's better) or something like that. Curious to think that during the entire saga we only saw all the bio-engineering of the Space Jockey fossilized while in Scorn they implement that but as more organic What I liked about the space jockeys was as if an astronaut was organically assimilated with his spacesuit and at the same time they looked like torsos that crawled in the grimy and sticky veins/corridors of the spaceship (perhaps at the same time it was also a living organism ) at least in this comic they showed us a more mummified than fossilized version of the Space Jockey

[@BigMikeMcBastard]

Future screenwriters aren't going to take their cues from ancient, unpopular comics.

[@juanisol8275]

@@BigMikeMcBastard 😅 who knows...anybody can dreams that i mean Promeathus whas Made by unseen and old scrips ideas...just saying...

[@CleverGirlAAH]

I've given up any good will to chance any future installments of the "franchise"...

[@juanisol8275]

@@CleverGirlAAH Yhea, i know what do you mean...Whell a least still a inspirative classic to remember and for new generations to developt in they own creative ways 😎👍👽

[@donnydarkoh6411]

They could just re-write them as they were sort of an off shoot of real Engineers, and that real engineers are a bt bigger

[@BramptonHughes]

I feel this is an example to this fans thinking there's something more deep than it really is The space jockey was just out there for the scene, and it probably looked bigger than usual unintentionally.

[@jackobrien7135]

The Aliens universe is so multi faceted it’s been largely under represented . The comics offer so much that has just been squandered over the years . It’s sad really

[@466rudy6]

This universe has been retconned too much to make any sense anymore.

[@stuartwhitehead3167]

Prometheus ripped a lot off of this story. It does line up well with some of the ideas that they wanted to go with a promethus sequel. The old school jockies could still exist in cannon if that line holds up, that being that the engineers were created by higher beings themselves, which were dubbed "alphas" and that they tried to mimic their creators, keeping with the theme of creator and created. The alphas could very well be the old school space jockies. The jockey was larger and there were some real differences between the derilict and the juggernaut.

[@FSK1138]

Thanks for the update ..I am a fan ... but did not known the full lore on many topics .. always interesting to learn more ..

[@RJayRabbit]

We need more movies of this genre, so fascinating.

[@darrylschnell5620]

Didn't hate Prometheus, but I wish we'd have gotten this version as cannon. It keeps most of the mythos mysterious and not as human centric.

[@CMDR_Verm]

I must get hold of this book/comic, you describe it very well. The hole that the investigators descend into, along with the murals, sounds very similar to the city described by H.P. Lovecraft in ''At the Mountains of Madness'', an SF/horror classic.

[@M1tjakaramazov]

The idea that the xenomorphs were an alien species even to the space jockeys, and that even they didn't know where they came from, was always scarier than them being a result of engineer creation. When I saw Alien as a kid I always thought the egg-hall was just part of their ship the xenomorphs had filled with eggs before expiring, much like the alien queen infesting the station basement in Aliens - a disgusting goodbye gift they leave behind wherever they are.

[@nosaj9167]

Absolutely love this franchise

[@leerhode1021]

Perhaps I missed any mention of the fact that the crew from the Nostromo landed on the planet to investigate a signal that at first was thought to be a distress signal. (Of course we found out The Company wanted the crew to investigate this signal for their own nefarious reasons.) However, it turned out to be a warning from the pilot in the derelict ship for other ships to stay away. This key tenet seems to be constantly overlooked in many of the commentaries. Also we don’t seem to know how the derelict ship seems to have such a vast amount of xenomorph eggs. Were they importing them? Ripley said in Aliens, that Kane said he saw thousands of those eggs. Also in Aliens it seemed the warning signal from the derelict that had been broadcasting for a very long time was totally non existent for the Terraformers, they were oblivious until Carter Burke told one the terraformers to go look for the derelict, hence, the whole colony’s infection. Make it make sense.

[@jenssylvesterwesemann7980]

I remember there being a scene in the tie-in comic where they switched off the signal. Additionally - though here memory might well play tricks on me - I think there is a snippet of deleted footage from the film where they do the same thing.

[@lieshtmeiser5542]

The movie doesnt go into the backstory, that was the novelization. You are correct from what i read in your comment, the company sent them there to collect a specimen, all other concerns "rescinded" (an odd word to use) and it was 'genuiney hoped that you would survive...', lol. It works from the point of view of an off the books company project. It doesnt work so well as a neverending nefariousness of the company forever. Unfortunately thats what the fiction writers tend to do: repeat ad nauseum the idea that the companies are only ever corrupt, are never good, always in conspiracy, etc. Theres no way in reality that it would go on. Weyland wouldve been embroiled in special inquiries, made to resign, the company wouldve lost licences and been fined billions, etc. The company may have been broken up. The government wouldve declared war on the xenomorph, wars would be fought, medals of honor handed out, etc. Then the woke leftist corruption of our societies could continue, climate change would be the no1 worry, and gender inequality would go back to being the thing that worries our leaders the most.

[@leerhode1021]

@@lieshtmeiser5542 I was with you until you launched into leftist & woke policies. However, I agree with the rest.

[@leerhode1021]

@@jenssylvesterwesemann7980 Thanks, I never heard that the signal was turned off, and I never seen the deleted footage of them doing that. How would they know how to turn off the signal of a highly advanced alien ship? Who could/would authorize such an act and why? Just wondering.

[@lieshtmeiser5542]

@@leerhode1021 the leftist agenda is a fact of life now. What if greta was an alien fan...? Honestly, coming from leftard scandinavia she would never get into facehuggers, engineers, or giants...

[@tomdadada]

Thanks for the hint to this comic! I HATED the "humano-centric" idea of the "Engineers", having a total clear picture of that giant (obviously non-humanoid) thing in the derelict ship from the original Alien-movie. Iam going to read that for my own head-canon, i am sure that will finally bring my inner nerd to peace.

[@alpacaofthemountain8760]

Great video! Love the art

[@chano7053]

What i think of the Space Jockey interpretation on the comic book? I think it's much, MUCH better than Prometheus. Ridley Scott should've been inspired by the comic and expand on that storyline instead of inventing absurd creationist theories and oversized albino WWE characters.

[@astronaut8917]

I bet he never bothered to read what happened in the comics which is a real shame

[@rarecandy3445]

@@astronaut8917 ridley scott is a bitter, entitled old man. why would he bother reading the comics when he can personally change everything he has written and inspired when he wants?

[@kennethsatria6607]

@@rarecandy3445 I know he helped create the franchise but damn does it feel morally questionable that he claims ownership of it long after others have done the work of world building and popularizing it through other media for him.

[@KryptonAllah]

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[@yeahoblivionmaster]

Prometheus needed to include the deleted scenes with all the proto Indo European stuff.

[@jasonsantos3037]

I like these Version of space jockeys

[@ThuyCawlEemThaBlaydRunna]

6:11 That’s a shame. Lazy but efficient I guess. Why waste time making a unique artistic vision when you can just take the base design and scale it up a bit.

[@theunknowngamer5477]

This was a wonderful video and story, the posts SHOULD BE an audio panel. Still waiting for Disney or Netflix to destroy the theme. I miss the Dark Horse Presents and Alien comics, now worth the price of gold. Bud Plant had a box, actually a pallet, of early Alien print material, at discount, and as I walked the warehouse, I passed it twice....the image haunts me.

[@nonnyjones8217]

Wow… Excellent job been waiting to hear this for about 6 or 7 years now

[@nannesoar]

I think the fact that they look like elephants gives them a perfect feeling of unexpected familiarity.

[@chatchat6968]

I don't remember in which comic it was but there was a giant that was still alive that was sweeping a flashlight that was disintegrating all the aliens. It was a dark horse comic I probably read it in the early 2000s I just can't remember the name of it it would have been about the same time as the aliens Terminator predator thing was going on.

[@DEATH-THE-GOAT]

I wrote in an other channel what those trunk creatures race was called. And now I got the answere from you. Thank you very much. I likes and subscribed 😀👍

[@seanlanglois8620]

I remember as a kid the space jockey making my mind just go boom

[@callumbignall1877]

Brilliant! Needs to be a short film

[@davehooper4498]

I think your interpretation is perfect

[@Workerbee-zy5nx]

When the film came out, me and my buddies saw it and freaked out. The nam Alien worked without James Cameron calling them bugs and the over used xenomorph title.🤔 Space jockey was transporting the eggs, one got out, he left a warning, crashed and died, thousands years ago. He had no legs, he was the chair, he was payed to transport the cargo, he died..story over.😉👍

[@jay-kg8ke]

More interesting than the big grey body builders Ridley came up with.

[@Nin_the_Shinobi]

The original space jockey will always be better than the Engineers

[@alexkogan9755]

I much prefer this over whatever the heck Prometheus and Covenant dreamt up.

[@J.D.Vision]

This would've been an Epic movie.

[@Bobbie_Lee84]

I see alot of debating about DHC's version of space jockey not being adapted to the film... if you ask me, im okay with the idea of Ridley's Engineer... tall, gigantic pale of a humanoid, who is the progenitor/creator of the human race, the space suit he wears when he sits at the cockpit reminiscence of the dead space jockey in the 1st film...

[@volpeverde6441]

in the first ALIEN they said it was like the space jockey GREW OUT OF THE CHAIR....so could they stand....? were they an engineered pilot/part of the ship - which also looks ALIVE, GROWN or ORGANICALLY SHAPED..... NOT the ENGINEERS of PROMETHEUS.... these guys were way bigger....

[@La-familia-de-Fazio]

The Space Jockey looks to be a totally different being than the engineers! Almost like the engineers version of a synthetic.

[@paulroberts7429]

The sacrificial engineer doesn't make sense unless the Prometheus engineers are a dying colony(round ship), the older engineer had black goo running through head veins, decapitated head re-activates black goo, Ai Ash in Alien Romulus uses black goo to help human colonist against disease, famine and environment resulting in The Offspring.

[@cameronalexander359]

Outstanding!

[@stevenirizarry1304]

my headcanon space jockeys destroyed by the alien 3.2 billion years ago->engineers discover space jockey ruins from this comic and discovered the alien->the black goo is harvested from alien and the rest of Prometheus and it’s backstory plays out

[@twilightgardenspresentatio6384]

Wow

[@bodhibaby5371]

...and the black dot is here🍸🐺

[@Pariah-pb1sk]

Think they should have kept this design if they added em in the movies. Origin stories however always ruin things for me. I like the mystery

[@debbieannsmith8962]

Fascinating....🤔🤔🤔

[@maestro-zq8gu]

YES.. I was so sad when they didn't stay true to this version of the Space Jockey in Prometheus.

[@caincorn]

It's nice that the Prometheus crew flew all that way to find out about the origin for humans. It's disappointing as a movie goer and a fan of the franchise to see them go fly all way just to find, well, bigger humans. Can it not just be about aliens and THE Aliens without throwing mankind to the mix? Like what the first movie had accomplished.

[@setherikson7421]

That's more than 2-3 times the size that was 6-7 times the size I'd say

[@Wallace19711]

I would really like to see a movie called Tears In The Rain. Where synthetic human beings take on the Xenomorphs sent to the Earth by the Engineers to kill off human beings.

[@Wallace19711]

A prequel to Blade Runner.

[@nebulousy]

This is why I like the older comics. The original Jockey concept is far more creepy & weird with them looking like towering creatures that could reach a couple of stories in height. Prometheus was completely incompatible with the original vision. The posture & proportions weren’t even close. I don’t consider Prometheus or Covenant to be canon.

[@onetruekeeper]

The Nostromo was a tugboat pulling a space refinery carrying mineral ore headed for earth. Perhaps the derelict ship found on LV426 was also something similar and it was carrying the xenomorph eggs back to the space jockey’s homeworld where the hatched facehugger was used with another organism to produce the xenomorph where they were utilized in constructing large structures such as the spaceship hull and more of the egg storage and incubation chambers from the xenomorph excretions just the way bees construct their honeycombs and beehives.

[@Craigskitchen360]

What if a Xeno had six arms!

[@changsangma1915]

Not sure how old is this comic suppose to be, unless as a fan fic comic trying to grasp the forgotten idea of the space jockey from the first Alien film. The concept seem fascinating and expand even further into this universe. It could also ensure to answer why the Engineers seem to have similar technical supremacy of this species, by making them the creators of the Engineers. Its possible the derelict ship was discovered by some space faring engineers and took samples of the jockey corpse, some black goo stuffs and xeno eggs...and studied the structure/technology of the ship.

[@petesandwich3246]

It would be best if they just retcon Prometheus all together

[@changsangma1915]

@@petesandwich3246 .....that is least likely to happen considering the franchise isn't planning to expand anything about other species besides the Xenos in future possible projects. Then again, the scene where Dr Shaw found that her BF had analysed the engineer dna sample to be a link to humans, she asked "& who made Them" which question even further who is that ultimate creator, & to my idea its the Mala'kak giants.

[@SuperToughnut]

I wish they wouldn't have made the last movie and, instead, kept going in the direction of Prometheus. Instead they made the android the father of the xenomorphs as we know them and killed the franchise.

[@DanJackson1977]

The idea of the Alien just being this locust parasite species and the space jockeys just being a mysterious, hapless victim is way more interesting that wrapping a 1970s "ancient astronauts - Chariots of the Gods" mythology around it. The more you explain the monster or give the mysterious parts a convoluted backstory, the less interesting they are. The mystery is what made it cool