[TF2] The Zombie Escape Tier List

[@siwnares_]

wow 7 seconds into the video and i already see the satanic source spaghetti light flickering in the sfm bit that lazypurple talked about

[@SpaceGuyOnline]

Yep... Fucking Fantastic...

[@C0DY420]

THESE LIGHTS ARE SATAN

[@KH21-Sniper]

i thought those were part of the animation until i saw your comment

[@NinjaKatzKool]

Valve needs to update sfm... But they won't because it's Valve.

[@box5349]

@@SpaceGuyOnline put "ent_fire env_lightglow kill" into console and tahdahhhhhhhhh

[@baneofthebread]

This gamemode is so oddly balanced Scout is given every single tweak possible in order to make him viable, and Zombie Demo is not given anything in order to be viable

[@M4x_P0w3r]

So what you mean is that it's very badly balanced, then

[@philswiftdestroyerofworlds1988]

@@M4x_P0w3r It's actually not that bad after playing it and seeing others opinions on it

[@ezucra]

@@M4x_P0w3r caber can clear entire groups yes, but most maps have corridors, but when the maps open up, you can always Trimp, which you need map knowledge to get it to work, and other classes are simple to play as the only job you have to do is to run to the humans there's not much need to balance zombies, I suggest to actually play the game mode to see the game balance, team work is needed, but the high rank players will likely command the team.

[@shaevizla]

These maps were designed for CSGO/CSS zombie escape so balance is going to be a bit weird when freshly ported over to TF2. The servers/community need more time to tweak it right.

[@society1876]

zombie demo is op

[@imagiknight47]

I'm impressed with the infallible and impeccable apexes of alliteration you achieve. The continuation of your coloquial capability could carry your content alone.

[@Moss_Dude]

This comment would've been perfect if you had picked any other "I" word than "impressive."

[@imagiknight47]

@@Moss_Dude Edited to choose another 'I' word.

[@enlightenedgroyper2956]

Its really annoying and forced, actually

[@enlightenedgroyper2956]

@Rellyali1987 The alliteration is not well done. It feels unnatural. Alliteration is done well when the phrase is still worded naturally enough you might not even notice its there.

[@rairaion2612]

@@enlightenedgroyper2956 to each its own

[@citcoin-official2681]

I love how the Demoknight mention is as simple as ' Don't melee the melee-locked Enemies, Play the Zombie shooter properly'

[@vivelespatat2670]

Demoknights probably played VSH before and got used to melee a melee-locked enemy, too bad said melee-locked enemy have friends and tens of thousands of hp.

[@beepistf2]

i'm still going to melee the zombies as demoknight

[@DaltonIzHere]

The only issue with Demoknight is that, with TF2 Melee Hitreg (as LazyPurple mentioned) always gives an absurd advantage to the aggressor in range. For example, if one Demoknight charged or ran towards another Demoknight and they began to backpeddle, it’s very likely that the Demo which ran in to attack will be able to extendo-reach the retreating Demo from much further distances If Melee didn’t have these issues, Demoknight would still be bad since you’re trying to melee the melee enemies, but it would be a slightly better situation.

[@Wounded_Asclepius]

Your animating skills just keep getting better and better, holy moly.

[@orangehatretro]

Same with his tongue-twister skills

[@coachacola3755]

He really gets good at posing. Good posing will greatly improve animation skill.

[@Suwawako]

I love seeing Zombie Escape getting more love in TF2, it's a really underrated gamemode

[@crispyfries0]

Yeah me too. Its never really talked about too

[@reimuhakurei2123]

I prefer counter strike zombie escape but i played tf2 version plenty of times and its fun

[@malif1279]

Yeah, used to play it a lot before Santassination Extreme was beaten a few months back (God the grind to reach that point was painful) and love that more people are starting to pay attention to the mode now imo it's more fun most times than CS:S/CSGO ZE because there's more options and variety available to you at all times rather than just using the Bizon/M4/AK all the time and having to bhop effectively if you wanna be useful as a zombie

[@Suwawako]

@@reimuhakurei2123 omg reimu

[@Suwawako]

@@malif1279 it's more fun in css ze mostly because the people are actually smart enough to win games lmao

[@JimViaSD]

While the heavy is frozen in place after activating his enzyme, he takes increased melee damage - allowing for humans to sometimes one-shot him if he's taken enough damage prior.

[@SpaceGuyOnline]

No one in their right mind aside from a Spy whose already behind them would take that risk though, kinda like a pointless thing to note like how the Widowmaker does 10% more damage when shooting at someone your sentry is targeting

[@JimViaSD]

I've seen plenty of players, including myself, kill frozen heavies with their melee and retreat successfully. Notably on Krusty Krab, where the entire map is just holding a single corridor while SpongeBob blows up bridges and barriers. Heavies leave themselves exposed as soon as they're frozen, and humans (Who know that this is a thing) oftentimes take advantage of that to kill them. I understand where you're coming from though, it can be pretty risky on certain maps.

[@consumerofbepsi5254]

@@SpaceGuyOnline it can actually be very helpful to meele a enzyming heavy for one simple reason, as a heavy, you can break a choke point, like the endless doors in ZE_SCP by enzyming in and allowing your fellow zombies to bust through, covering the zombies behind you. the downside of this however is that it temporarily separates you from your team, allowing a survivor to meele you before the others can break through.

[@shybandit521]

@@SpaceGuyOnline not really. It's major enough that when a team leader sees an enzyme they're like "someone melee him"

[@Vapor817]

@@SpaceGuyOnline when a heavy enzymes, they separate from the horde rather significantly since the bullets, flames, and explosives are holding the rest of the zombs back. pretty much every human class except a revved up heavy can safely melee kill an enzymed heavy

[@natethegamelord]

the pvz ost sprinkled during the whole video just made my day a whole lot better. nothing like a little nostalgia to get me doing my homework a little quicker.

[@van_8]

Why are you watching KZbin while doing homework

[@xxsupergod21xx]

@@van_8 bg noise?

[@mr.outlaw231]

Medic on the zombie escape server I play is usually used to counter non-instant kill stage hazards. Some maps are more dangerous than the actual zombies.

[@sigmundfreud7903]

Zombie soldier used to be op when the whip was still enabled. Demo was an absolute terror when they could trimp on slopes and respawn with full charge.

[@lordpumpkinhead265]

I can imagine good Demoknight mains doing a nasty trimp then either assassinating someone, or using the Caber if it's enabled to constantly harass the alive.

[@michaeljo9384]

And then boom, nerfed to death/barely playable harder than sandman's nerf and left it like that for years. I think they should allow trimping & whipping but give like -90% HP like zombie spy's cloak, so zombie demoknights can trimp but can be countered by airshot (or players looking up and click M1) soldiers give himself and his teammate 15% more speed at cost of thousands of health each boost.

[@FamusJamus]

One thing that people forget about sentries is that zombies can surf with them if they're not placed properly. If you're a lone zombie, pass the sentry, then jump+crouch as the sentry boosts you _towards the humans._ It doesn't work with a crowd of zombies and your teammates usually kill sentries whenever they see one, but it catches people out if they're focusing on retreating.

[@medicgaming9117]

SPY DOES BETTER THAN SNIPER IN A GAMEMODE? I never thought i’d see the day…

[@joeakajoe431]

i recommend a custom gamemode called "Super Zombie Fortress". It's basically left 4 dead but in tf2.

[@Flashyface]

a tier list for that would also be nice

[@pum8661]

Normal ZF with the killing floor type perks was better imo, but both are great and underrated

[@flyingstonemon3564]

Any servers ? Tag, names, ips?

[@diegov1743]

@@Flashyface wish granted

[@Flashyface]

@@diegov1743 Ik, love the gamemode and I’m glad a video got made,

[@draglorr5578]

I saw that flashing demon light there in the intro. This seems like it xould be such a cool game mode and a fun time, but I have had nothing but bad experiences with it. Maybe I'm just unlucky? Mainly because of the crappy infuriating maps and the fact that i'll just die randomly for no reason. I would add getting stripped to melee basically making you a free kill, but i think thats only on blackwonder from what i understand thankfully.

[@whoisanarnb]

“These lights are SATAN!”

[@thunderspark1536]

I could help you learn it, a lot of the maps aren't very good.

[@thegames4565]

Meh I had good experiences with it. It is infuriating to play as a zombie sometimes though, you feel like you cant do anything but die. Btw I remember my favorite map being one that's basically a mansion with some breakable windows and doors I think and a lot of parkour, anyone know the name? Cant remember it

[@jivanhoyt6520]

Mainly it's just trial and error to learn the maps. Either that or listen to the leader. (if there is one)

[@WooHooLadttv]

The alliteration is making me smile so much I can't explain how goofy it makes me feel but I'm happy and full of epic clap balls

[@SudlaSteel]

Oh hey it’s the vtuber balls guy, what’s up

[@Bumcat]

it makes him sound like one of those translated to and back voice lines from those mods in half life where they just say random stuff

[@WooHooLadttv]

@@Bumcat also like those old verbose tf2 memes

[@isiffrin]

The only issue I have is where you overemphasis how useless damage is when on maps with bosses its essential since if you fail the DPS check then thats game over.

[@ShockedTaiLung]

Love the dialogue in this video it’s very well written

[@C0DY420]

A rarity for any TF2 player to say: the red tape recorder is good. But this gamemode has done it, the red tape recorder is no longer useless!

[@sigmundfreud7903]

Medic is much more of a crutch class to keep bad players from getting themselves one clapped. The crit boost doesn’t provide much of a knockback upgrade from the buff banner and Uber is really situational and is entirely useless on boss fights.

[@thunderspark1536]

Quite true. Medics are most useful when you need just a little extra breathing room to save a team. Not so much for a team that's good enough to handle all of the zombies.

[@isiffrin]

Wait till you learn how to AOE uber. This tierlist is pretty outdated when it comes to the weapons.

[@thunderspark1536]

@@isiffrin Well then the Uber don't last very long, and if the zombies are those close you're probably dead

[@ez_skyl]

I love these videos about different "obscure" community TF2 gamemodes! They make me really nostalgic ngl.

[@PK-Radio]

Just go all heavy it works

[@siwnares_]

lmao heavy monoclass works almost everywhere hell even on vsh, just get a bunch of heavies near an amp and there's not much the boss can do that's why you have class caps

[@crispyfries0]

I remember that i had a team with 8 heavies lol

[@consumerofbepsi5254]

they have class caps because having any more than 8 heavies would be even worse torture for the zombies lol

[@crispyfries0]

@@consumerofbepsi5254 my server didn’t have class caps, lol

[@consumerofbepsi5254]

@@crispyfries0 ah, for the skial zs servers there's a class cap of I think 8 or 9 if I recall correctly

[@livesmarter1873]

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[@JAIBADRIVISHAAL]

MILK

[@livesmarter1873]

@@JAIBADRIVISHAAL milk

[@JAIBADRIVISHAAL]

@@livesmarter1873 milk

[@livesmarter1873]

@@JAIBADRIVISHAAL milk

[@JAIBADRIVISHAAL]

@@livesmarter1873 milk

[@shybandit521]

Heavies mid-enzyme actually can't swing their melee after the full freeze starts, and they also get guaranteed insta-killed by melee weapons. It could be better. Still S tier.

[@BiggieMFCheese]

Holy alliteration batman

[@kiddozzind3069]

When I played on Skial, I noticed that seems to be your account, so I commented that if you're recording for the Zombie Escape tier list, And it turns out I'm right lol. Although I had a hate and love relationship with the game mode, can't deny that it's where most playtime goes and it's fun as hell when everything works

[@gamingmoth4542]

As always, you adore your alliterations. This nocturnal insect of a gamer must admit that it is an admirable action.

[@cristinagomez3283]

Idea: for demo's enzyme ability, he can suck up anything within a range, and after 3 seconds, he will blast them all back, like an airblast. This works like airblast in relation to projectiles and allies, reflecting all projectiles and extinguishing teammates, and knocking back sentries too.

[@crashriot3930]

My idea was to make him kamikaze the humans.

[@consumerofbepsi5254]

He has no enzyme because he has his charge

[@cristinagomez3283]

@@consumerofbepsi5254 this would still be nice to have for demoman though, right

[@consumerofbepsi5254]

@@cristinagomez3283 if demo did get an enzyme they'd probably have to disable the charge for balance reasons. At the moment demo does need a buff though.

[@cristinagomez3283]

@@consumerofbepsi5254 maybe when the enzyme meter is full, demoman can't charge

[@z.i.p.w9467]

Damn i never play on skial server ZE (mostly on otaku server? It's been a while since i play any ZE) and boy did the meta really different. I might reconsider to try on skial server and learn again as a noob considering how different it is, i swear that feeling of discovery is always never old

[@skyaz7372]

You should play on skial, it has way better balancing than otaku. Otaku's balancing is so half assed that the scout could instantly end the game, killing all humans with his atomizer.

[@keycicle]

@@skyaz7372 I actually started with skial and played on it for about year. otaku imo is more fun, or at least feels like a breath of fresh air. i like that in comparison to skial ze, otaku ze's human pyro isnt overpowered and that the zombie classes have a bit more variety/playstyles. its quite interesting that you have to account for various enemy types like double jumpers (scout), dashers (demoknight), flankers(spys), tanks(heavys), and speed boosters(whip soldiers). and playing rocket jumping as human soldier is quite fun along with whip support. and playing human pyro is actually less of a crutch and more of a clutch with burning not doing slowdown and instead a periodical tiny stun effect and a slow airblast rate. i enjoy the otaku servers alot. definitely a breath of fresh air, but to each their own.

[@masedaace5473]

Mad respect for opening the video with PVZ ost.

[@odysseysfortune537]

Holy shit, how long did it take you to write this? The alliteration is simply amazing, and I didn’t expect to see such skillful speaking remain simply spectacular throughout. Great work!

[@lucasdacarinha]

43:02, is that a dark souls reference, or i didnt get the joke?

[@greenthepokemontrainer3358]

don't you just hate it when youtubers don't put the music names in the descrpition of the video

[@Anime_Fuwatti]

The song is part of the PVZ soundtrack.

[@greenthepokemontrainer3358]

@@Anime_Fuwatti dude i know but thanks anyway

[@Anime_Fuwatti]

@@greenthepokemontrainer3358 ..okay..

[@greenthepokemontrainer3358]

@@Anime_Fuwatti move this gear up

[@aaronharper1209]

The beggars shouldn’t be changed back to stock. It would be interesting to keep it how it is bc having multiple of the same weapon is stupid. I imagine the beggars would be rather powerful but burn through ammo insanely fast. Vaccinator should have the shield from mvm.

[@SpaceGuyOnline]

In other servers or versions sure but intox has infinite ammo so having a Rocket Launcher that simply fires 3 rockets into a crowd instead of 1 seems Busted As for the vaccinator shield zombie health is so large that the rapid damage that the Shield deals wouldn't be enough

[@JAIBADRIVISHAAL]

MILK

[@VentureDevv]

wtf is the end music 😭

[@sonicmeerkat]

the dedication to the alliteration is commedable.

[@Unfunnyscoutmain]

Engineer be like plants vs zombies

[@LG-bb1db]

It feels nice to see people talking about a pretty underrated gamemode.

[@dylanhernandez288]

Always appreciate the witty humor alongside the geniue helpful tips you provide. Not much of a player of TF2 or its gamemodes, but I feel like turning on the game whenever a new video comes out. Keep up the good work my man 👍

[@tonycallme3667]

Hey there, i do agree on Spy being honestly selfish most of the time, but that's just how people play him, i often play him when we're too crowded on heavies and any major classes, providing distraction for those who fall behind. The same goes with Scout too, but i find scout particularly hard to avoid zombies....

[@chickensoup7605]

huh, I played on otaku server, and to see vastly different metas is really interesting, zombie demo being the worst is shocking because in otaku where everything is oneshot and caberknight exist(Which is a fkin nightmare and heart attack to deal with).

[@z.i.p.w9467]

Ah the caber zombie, one guy on the edge got hit and the half of team turn to zombies

[@anarx1830]

And Dragons fury is Very op in that server , im suprised weapon is not good in other servers

[@Tobi-co3hy]

I remember when Phlog wasn't nerfed, hold a fucking chokepoint with one Phlog Pyro and you win the game because of how powerful the Phlog was. (The Phlog was super op with maps that had super close chokepoints which basically lead to Phlog doing so much damage and killing the zombies) now it's more of a utility with Mini crits and slow.

[@keeganlafferty1395]

about Survivor Scout, you forgot to mention his melees because unlike most of the other classes he has two melees that could still be of use in Zombie Escape: the Sandman and Wrap Assassin, the Sandman has a stunning alt-fire while the Wrap Assassin has an AoE Bleeding alt-fire

[@the_potato2290]

Virgin hide in the corner and running from zombies faster than your teammates scout main vs chad run into zombies harass the frontline buff teammates to run fast and be a complete pain the zombies behind

[@drucy.]

I would put Sniper in C tier, honestly, solely for the Heatmaker + Jarate combo allowing for consistent stuns and decent DPS (due to no-descope making your shot partically charged when the reload is done). And Jarate works well to both amplify your and your team's knockback as well as getting your focus a bit more often. Don't get me wrong, Sniper is still very meh in this gamemode, but I just find D tier to be harsh for him.

[@nineandzerodark5439]

I didn’t even know of this game mode now I know what I’m doing later tonight

[@ManicObsevations]

spy fan firing a 24 round revolver* also does he just refuse to actually compliment the red tape, or did he just not feel like recording a voice over

[@coffeeluci]

the rough animation ( which is getting a lot better with each video and is good right now ) actually works really well for them zombie mercs! Great video, mate

[@micahvolpe2847]

When I first started playing ZE they allowed you to use the disciplinary action. It was so great! I wish they had never taken it out. It wasn’t even unbalanced or anything, just made soldier way more useful

[@wildwilly356]

wait a teir list where sniper is bad and pyro is good

[@ElecWaffAlt]

love this video! the sfm, the humor, the alliteration, and useless knowledge i’ll probably never need but want to know make for a great video

[@birbknight]

I seriously need to find these servers XD

[@jaimelkor8054]

the alliteration went from interesting at the start, to incredible annoying at the end, to moderatly amusing at the end... very interesting

[@pancakes1]

Skial Zombie Escape is my favorite ZE server

[@cooldude9602]

who asked

[@pancakes1]

@@cooldude9602 Me

[@seaweedfromthenorth9758]

Fix Legoland smh

[@tailsmonster12]

YOOOO I LOVE ZOMBIE ESCAPE

[@O-01-45]

Before seeing these videos, the only community server I went on was Uncletopia. Watched more of your videos and I realize just how much I have been missing out on.

[@SurrogateActivities]

dev mustve purposefully went against the usual metas. heavy and pyro as the top powerclasses, sniper the worst. zombie melee demo is the worst even though natually demoknight would be op here

[@VentureDevv]

normal game meta was very problematic in a gamemode where you can't kill zombies, you have to slow them down.

[@SurrogateActivities]

@@VentureDevv you can deny that blu demoknight got nerfed straight into d tier

[@VentureDevv]

@@SurrogateActivities demo used to be able to fly across maps and kill teams.

[@arcem84]

@@SurrogateActivities Back when trimping was allowed on skial ze people were using it to fly around the map, sometimes going halfway across the map triggering teleports way too early and getting everyone on both teams teleported on top of each other and killed. Fun to do but was torture for people who werent doing it. Its understandable why demoknight was nerfed and besides, that subclass isnt a good fit for this gamemode anyway

[@arcem84]

Just to let you know Skial has managed to increase the player count from 32 to 60, at least on Skial Zombie Escape US. Though there are some bugs and crashes have been common earlier when trying to get the max amount of people. If all the problems are fixed you should enjoy playing 60 player zombie escape

[@ihappydawnz]

wowie an hour? time to grab the popcorn

[@terrariaplayer5755]

49:37 "YOU ARE UP AGAINST A WALL AND IM THE FUCKING WALL!" -bulldozer payday 2

[@__-be1gk]

I can't believe they added Zombies to tf2, now I have to start playing tf2 again

[@Oyakinya-Izuki]

Ever heard about mirror's edge tf2 edition?

[@philswiftdestroyerofworlds1988]

@@Oyakinya-Izuki Tell me more my friend

[@Oyakinya-Izuki]

@@philswiftdestroyerofworlds1988 Tf2 has a forgotten gamemode, it's called parkour fortress and it's literally mirror's edge

[@Oyakinya-Izuki]

@@philswiftdestroyerofworlds1988 you can connect to its server only if you know the ip or if you're in the parkour fortress steam group

[@SomeGuy_Somewhere]

This gamemode has been out for 10 years

[@EvanTreguboff]

medic is the kind of person that would start the zombie virus, am i right or am i right lads

[@prajawalgurung6121]

I like that zombie escape is so popular in CS:S, CS 1.6 & CSGO that it got ported over to Tf2 and is now a strong game mode in tf2 still.

[@averagegamer463]

49:37 Payday Bulldozer reference. Well done.

[@boom-CM]

Omg this is the server I play on all the time! I never noticed you there :(

[@superiornicholas412]

The spy can actually disguise as a zombie and sneak past the zombies if the zombies are too distracted on getting to the survivors. Plus you might fool them by exactly what they are doing which is trying to get to the survivors. This actually saved my life once when I was playing as spy.

[@ace_ofchaos9292]

Headshotting hypothermic heavy’s will halt their horrific hides hastily. Spy’s now signal their special spectral skin with spooky sounds.

[@MyrajusEleen]

Holy shit, that’s an FFXIV MAP IN TF2

[@BunnyJolf]

The fact there is a game mode where pyro is top tier

[@SpaceGuyOnline]

Here before the Dodgeball tierlist

[@BunnyJolf]

@@SpaceGuyOnline isn't pyro the only useable character in that mode

[@SpaceGuyOnline]

@@BunnyJolf that's the joke

[@shybandit521]

Loved seeing you on the server, man. This is nearly the only server I play nowadays.

[@subjectfnaf]

well the frontier and widow maker is there still but you cant get crits with the frontier because sentrys cant kill the panic attack is still there too and i think all shotguns for engineer if im right by the time the comments is out all shot guns are here in skal zombie escape

[@subjectfnaf]

you even have the panic attack in the heavy part

[@FlakkerDPS]

Love your vids man but i'd like to know, what made you make the list based off skial's ZE rather than otaku.tf's ZE? Considering both are really different well...like, REALLY different. Skial makes a ton of changes to weapons and mechanics while otaku keeps everything mostly the same as vanilla. It's a big gap between both

[@SpaceGuyOnline]

Skial is a more popular server and I played it more often.

[@FlakkerDPS]

@@SpaceGuyOnline i see, aight man thanks for the reply. Keep up the good content! Can't wait on a vid on why 2fort is hated

[@littlebadassgaming]

what about blackwonder?

[@FlakkerDPS]

@@littlebadassgaming i genuinely didn't even know blackwonder had ZE, i doubt they do, i though otaku and skial were the only two with it that are still active

[@niviera7807]

You're wrong with medic, he is as important as a heavy or pyro in zombie escape. I know it from my experiences, a team is pretty much marked for death if they don't have any medics.

[@entothechesnautknight1762]

I'd argue that spies are not the most inherently selfish class, they're just the class that does best being selfish. Sniper is really the most selfish class, as he requires team protection to fill his role and cant even do it that well. At least if a spy stabs a zombie, it's distracted for a hot second on top of the damage, and he gets Uber to get out and do it again. Spy may have the most potential to be selfish, but sniper is actively bringing the team down on most maps by just playing how he's *supposed* to play.

[@pwnser]

I used to play the old version and it used to be way different because soldiers used to be op as hell, medic could use overdose to receive enough speed to outrun any class, demo used to be able to destroy anyone with loose cannon and hybrid knight, and lastly vaccinator used to give invisible buffs that I don’t even remember what they did. Those were good times.

[@doremi4531]

This got me to start playing. I'm in love with this game mode now!

[@subjectfnaf]

did he really forgot the all class weapons

[@1forthepriceof218]

I have a feeling it’s going to be a lot harder to get a slot on the server now that this video is out. Oh, well.

[@SpaceGuyOnline]

The US server is typically full but the NY one is typically empty so it cancels it out

[@remedynoneofyourbusiness6]

Solution for the Demo zomb problem of low range; swing, THEN charge

[@theradiance2453]

28:34 AAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaa..........

[@TheDecentt]

This will help me in that one Skial server I play on a lot

[@madhatter2705]

you should make a tier list for super zombie fortress its kinda like l4d in tf2

[@secretlysaber5654]

This is a pretty interesting list because the zombie escape i play is different but similar. 1. Zombies can have way more hp, zombo heavies get 50000 hp and scouts having i believe 18000-27000 if i remember correctly. 2. There is no enzyme but instead the server at the end of a round picks what mutation to give to the zombies. Zombies instead have passives (some of them arent listed because thale character already has those passives) 3. Some classes/weapons got new features to make them viable. Demo being able to tank hits from alpha zombies (we will get to that) without turning infected instantly, spy getting trip mines that freezes zombies in an aoe when triggered (as well as being invisible to zombies human detector), and huntsman getting explosive arrows 4. The mutations and alpha zombies are a trait given to zombies, alpha's are the stsrting zombies, they turn u into infected as soon as they are hit, while mutations are self explanatory, like speedboost, reduced knockback, increased jump height. 5. Demoknight is viable lel

[@secretlysaber5654]

If i had to make a tier list it would look something like this S: heavy, engineer A: soldier, pyro, scout B: demoknight, medic C: spy, demoman, huntsman D: Sniper

[@secretlysaber5654]

A zombie tier list however S: Caberknight(demoknight), heavy A: scout B: demoman, spy, pyro C: medic, sniper, soldier D: engineer

[@Tobi-co3hy]

That's otaku server

[@Tobi-co3hy]

@@secretlysaber5654 zombies really depend on the map chosen tho, if they decide to go on a zm map then they're basically fucked with people not expecting zombie sniper, or difficulty with engie being op.

[@PotatoSlices]

This might be the one gamemode where heavy is top tier. Most of the time, heavy is a giant bullet sponge who's destine to die early.

[@deyontemyers4109]

class wars

[@januszpolak254]

Also the only gamemode where pyro is not useless meme class.

[@deyontemyers4109]

@@januszpolak254 class wars

[@aj23013]

if anyones wondering what the gas passer quick text is, its "appropinquat appropinquat"

[@LazXD]

I'm late but absolutely amazing! Your animations keep getting better, pretty much agree with this especially with scout and pyro. Some servers make the Dragon's Fury and Phlog WAY busted since more damage = More kb is applied on the servers ( or majority, not sure )

[@thewolfstu]

0:22 Oh hey, you have that light glow entity bug. one of Lazy Purple's BTS vids had a fix for that where you just do a light glow entity deletion.

[@kartblaster9987]

35:46 absolutely losing it over this scout that gets knocked into the fourth dimension

[@Queen_Coda]

Jesus Christ can this guy go 10 seconds without going fucking looney tunes dr Seuss mode just talk normally

[@jackripper5712]

spaceguy online is real good sfm maker and facts useful acts many more 11/10

[@worio3430]

i was in the vid worio34 btw can u make an out of context or u playing skial zombie excap

[@ShadowGamer300]

The amount of alliteration in these always leaves me in awe and amazement of how awesome you are as using alminacs...And a bit of anger that I am not as good at it. Well I gave that a shot.

[@hinotoritheobliterator6556]

Replace "good" with "amazing"

[@ShadowGamer300]

@@hinotoritheobliterator6556 I would have, but I already used Amazing in the alliteration.

[@bigdapramirez6157]

This is unrelated but I low-key wish there was an airsoft smg that looked like the cleaner's carbine with the folding sketal stock

[@marcusclary5643]

Keep up with these type of videos, I love reminiscing of some classic custom games and some I’ve never played before. Would you ever consider releasing the gameplay unedited in the background on a separate channel because I would love to see how full matches played out on your gameplay as they get cut off to the next segment?

[@ThePikminCaptain]

Best Weapons for Each Class in ZE Scout: Soda Popper/BFB, Mad Milk, and Wrap Assassin Soldier: Liberty Launcher, Reserve Shooter/Banners, and The Escape Plan/Whip Pyro: Phlog, Gas Passer/Reserve Shooter/The Flare Guns (flare gun detonator mannmelter), and Power Jack Demoman: Loose Cannon, Quickie Bomb, and any melee Heavy: Brass Beast/Tomislav, Family Business, and GRU/KGB/Eviction Notice/Warrior’s Spirit Engineer: Frontier Justice, Wrangler/Pistol, and Gunslinger/Jag/Eureka Effect Medic: Syringe Gun/Blutsager/Overdose, Medigun/Kritzkrieg (has more bonuses), and Amputator Sniper: Huntsman/Heatmaker, Jarate/Carbine, and any Melee Spy: l’etranger/revolver, any Melee, and Red Tape Recorder

[@ThePikminCaptain]

Zombies Z Scout: Any Z Soldier: The Pickaxes Z Pyro: IDK Z Demo: Booties, Splendid Shield, and any Melee Z Heavy: Warrior’s Spirit Z Engineer: Idk Z Medic: Amputator Z Sniper: IDK Z Spy: Idk

[@diegodankquixote-wry3242]

This is epik! Zombie escape is the best zombie tf2 gamemode

[@Artem_Tkachenko]

Heavy(alive) in teir list of zombie fortress:a Heavy(alive) in tier list of zombie escape:s Pyro(alive) has zero change Scout(alice) in tier list of zombie fortress:s Scout(alive) in tier list of zombie escpae:a. Sniper(alive) still worst in both gamemodes

[@abraham2626]

I actually started playing ZE a few weeks ago. I'm glad that people still make videos of it

[@xxsupergod21xx]

i love this. all the animations are awesome! (like some zombie animations based off of L4D) the Ost in the bg is great! (Pvz and L4D being some of them) and getting to know all the stuff behind this gamemode is quite cool and interesting.

[@Viktor--Reznov]

I'm known in the eu server of zombie escape ahah

[@IronGiant131]

Ok who asked Just messing with ya congrats

[@Viktor--Reznov]

@@IronGiant131 ahah nothing to be proud of, but at least I'm known somewhere

[@harrietr.5073]

Zombie Demo and Soldier really need a buff, maybe Demo charging at Enzyme charge can help? Soldier being immune to Explosions?