We've NEVER Watched GoT! | House of The Dragon 1x8 Reaction and Review | 'Lord of the Tides'

[@rudy_4ier]

"She really wants her father now but he's useless" Vizzy T: Hold my milk of the poppy

[@GlennShook]

Lmao

[@hermawansandi5679]

Now this is a comment worth a like

[@RhaenyraT2001]

Vizzy T 😂 Iam dead

[@psourav88]

Vizzy T is something Paddy Considine would be proud of!

[@LSG101097]

Viserys: "While I'm alive I won't stop to ruining everything I touch! Even now"

[@WilsonRows]

Viserys using the last of his energy to defend Rhaenyra 😢That 1 minute of peace and harmony he got during dinner was all he ever wanted

[@livvyb3583]

Paddy Considine gave an Emmy worthy performance. From the moment Viserys walked into the throne room to his last breath, he was just stellar. You could see Daemon was hurting seeing his brother like this! When he picked up the crown for Vicerys, it was so beautiful yet heartbreaking. Just a great episode!

[@Jennifer_Layne]

I wholeheartedly agree. That was a performance of a lifetime. His last walk to the Throne gave me chills, and Daemon helping him up the last few steps and placing his crown on his head. I finally lost it during his speech at dinner. I couldn’t hold back the tears any longer. It’s heartbreaking knowing that he’s gone now, because for the first time this season I realized how much I loved his character.

[@kasch3288]

oh whatever I haven't heard a single person say the actor's name until this episode

[@Jennifer_Layne]

This was one hell of an episode. It was very emotional and felt almost like a finale. As excited as I am for the upcoming final two episodes, I am also very sad at having to say goodbye to the world of Westeros and the amazing characters. 2024 and Season 2 feels like an eternity away.

[@ganjahiwalker2641]

@@kasch3288 that’s how you know he gave a great performance this episode…

[@kasch3288]

​@@ganjahiwalker2641 It was although nobody cared about him until now so I'm not impressed. Daemon killing it out here from episode 1. Glory enough to go around I'm just saying it feels like poser shit now all of a sudden everybody knows his name but they didn't before.

[@MT-UK]

That final scene though 😩 I think I was actually saying out loud “NO he doesn’t mean YOUR Aegon he means THE Aegon…. He thinks YOURE Rhaenyra!!! Nooooooooo” Ffs the emotions this show gives 😂😅😭

[@SpartanandPudgey]

😂😅

[@Elementroar]

Just to clarify Daemon and Rhaenyra’s kids ages, it’s been 6 years since episode 7. Joffrey was already born so he’s 6-7, Aegon was next and he looks around 5, Viserys is about 2-3, and now they’re on their third kid together. So basically they had a kid every 2 years since episode 7.

[@kiwicoral9195]

Alicent got a text message meant for someone else and decided she’s going to start a civil war over it

[@ffvgaming3735]

This is the best explanation 😂

[@dabhyun1133]

Lmaoo

[@marti9734]

The civil war would have started anyway lol

[@ciandryl]

Bad reception, is it arrived late

[@adamcummings20]

I think the main idea is that the hubris of the parents has passed down to the children, and although Rhaenyra and Alicent may have made peace, their kids are going to start a war.

[@nonagrey3422]

haha I love how Aemond smiled at Daemon after he sliced the head in two. He loved it. Aemond is every bit his uncle!

[@markmaguire7479]

Honestly the thing a lot of people aren’t taking into account about the fight over vhaegar is that they are all kids. Yes you can’t steal a dragon but she was a child who just lost her mother and was understandably upset. Yes aemond should have waited but he was child who was desperate for a dragon and to prove himself. If these kids where actually being supervised properly none of it would have happened😂

[@judem4841]

totally agree - all kids who poked each others sore points - jace and lukes parentage, rhaena and baela's mothers death and rhaena having no dragon, aemond having no dragon and claiming one only to have that immediately challenged as the wrong thing to do. in the words of robert baratheon, damn it - kids fight sometimes.

[@elite7329]

Aemond did literally nothing wrong. Vhagar is a dragon and not some piece of furniture, a dragon chooses its rider and Vhagar chose Aemond.

[@dineshbalu6107]

@@elite7329 That doesn't mean Vhaghar might not have chosen Rhaena!!😂

[@kninezbanks]

​@@elite7329 A dragon wants to be free. Valyrians used blood magic to make them "serve/obey" them.....A dragon doesn't go out of it's way to find/choose a rider, it accepts or rejects someone who proposes to be it's rider. Rhaena would have most likely been accepted if she tried to bond first but she was in mourning......Aemond was literally the proverbial "Thief in the night" because he knew he was wrong.....He stole the "opportunity" for her to try to bond first......Then he was cocky and said she should have her cousins find her a pig to ride......."It would suit her"...that's a direct personal insult...They literally met that day, yet here he is bullying her/rubbing it in......Half the time bullied become bullies themselves.

[@withxoutxlife]

@@kninezbanks Finally someone speaking sense.

[@marti9734]

Aemond stood up because Jace stood up while banging the table... he was like: dare you to say/do something bad. And Jace proceed doing the toast instead lol🤣

[@EdAnsbro]

Hope this isn't considered a spoiler, but Daemon's sword is also Valyrian steel, just like Viserys' dagger. Daemon's sword is named "Dark Sister". Bad ass. That's why the cut on Vaemond was so damn clean. Vaemond should be thankful he got that instead of some executioner's dull ass axe.

[@badgaltinginnit]

WOW. Now THAT, was an entrance! Alicents green dress who?? I had tears swelling in my eyes watching viserys muster all his strength to defend his daughter. The kings arrival motif (as heard in s1e1 of GOT when robert enters winterfell) being played so triumphantly as he tells Otto to gtfo his chair is beautiful. Ramin does it again - creating stunning pieces to elevate the great writing and acting. Nothing compares to a father's love for his daughter. I could (and have) watch this scene over and over again.

[@lethaldose9780]

It's sad and beautiful that Viserys sees Aemma right before he passes. This episode was a masterpiece

[@MT-UK]

I don’t think he’s getting a loving welcome from her though do you 😂

[@WilsonRows]

@@MT-UK To be fair he never stopped loving her. Reminds me of Robert Baratheon with Lyanna Stark.

[@lethaldose9780]

It's tough to say but he definitely paid for what he put her through with his youth and overall wellness for the rest of his life. I believe at the end of his life he was only 52.

[@ThatCheekyWalrus]

This episodes visual of Viserys poor health triggered so many visuals of watching my dad pass. What a rough episode, I don't think I've cried this much from a show in a long time, I'm glad Viserys finally got to be with his true love. I am also happy we get to see what ACTUALLY happened not reading fire & blood and having to guess what the Maesters mean or are hiding.

[@SpartanandPudgey]

❤❤🙏🏼🙏🏼

[@SeeFair23]

I cried sooo much. Memories of my mom

[@bitoddinnit955]

Same! He passed recently of a brain tumor. Watching this was very rough. I hope you find comfort for your dad's passing too.

[@taral2]

I'm late to reacting here but was looking for this comment. Viserys walking up to the throne had me bawling the entire time and is BY FAR my favourite scene in the show so far, I relate it to how much my own dad has sacrificed and done for me. Sometimes when I see reactors who don't cry I'm thinking "how are you not overly emotional?!?!" haha. Paddy deserves awards for just that scene alone.

[@rakaki3]

Same! My dad is getting sicker and sicker rn and this episode gets me everytime…especially how he struggled so much to stand one last time for his daughter 😢😢

[@CallMeR3XT]

Depending if you're team green or black, it could be symbolism that at the dinner, Viserys's rotting side of his face was facing towards the high towers, and the intact healthier side of his face was facing the targaryens, daemon, rhaeynra etc.

[@SpartanandPudgey]

interesting view point!

[@agdgdgwngo]

I definitely didn't not notice this.

[@jdmfsdjs]

or it could be just coincidence and it doesnt mean anything... people are trying to find meanings and figure out everything when there is nothing to figure out, like who is snoke in star wars. well, he is just snoke. and viserys' face just happens to rot on the side where the hightowers sit. just like he happens to miss his arm where the targaryans sit.

[@CallMeR3XT]

@@jdmfsdjs I mean yeah, that's why i said "it could be" lol

[@summermetcalfe1628]

@@jdmfsdjs as a film student, it’s almost never a coincidence. especially in a series as elaborate as the world of the song of ice and fire is

[@soullesschicken4069]

a lot of people don't seem to realise that rhaenys didn't want to support rhaenyra because high towers were in power and that would mean she would have to align herself with the losing side. her knowing laenor is alive wouldn't have changed that. that's why she switched and accepted rhaenyra's proposal as soon as she saw that power has shifted with king viserys backing lucerys's claim to the drifwood throne

[@ben1ben2ben1]

She backed Luke to Vermont earlier. She was likely just pissed at Rhyaenyra and trying to scare her. She would never go against her husbands wishes

[@soullesschicken4069]

@@ben1ben2ben1 scare her to achieve what exactly lol. it's clear as day she just didn't want to go against however is in the position of power. she's been around for long enough to know how it all works. she practically spelled it out to us by saying she must stand alone. husband wishes or not, if rhaenyra's children were to be acknowledged as bastards which is what vaemond was trying to achieve, rhaenys aligning herself with them would put her and her granddaughters in danger

[@vivienthape5265]

BEST EPISODE YET!!! I cried, was shook and felt all the emotions. I don’t know how the producers can top this episode. Looking forward to your reaction!!!

[@JrKengu]

I agree, this was the first episode, where every single scene was just absolutely perfect and needed.

[@JrKengu]

@@storyofm6820 it absolutely is in my eyes.

[@JrKengu]

@@storyofm6820 im not gonna get it fixed, its my opinion? dont like it? i dont give a fuck.

[@JrKengu]

@@storyofm6820 how about getting your brain fixed, so you can come to the realisation, and an acceptance, that not everybody is going to hold your views? that isnt how the world works, unfortunately.

[@JrKengu]

@@storyofm6820 you mean that you wouldn't be able to justify your delusion anymore.

[@modmary3527]

Pudgy gets an A+ for paying attention, about Helaena being the Sister-Wife of Aegon. 😊

[@godemperorofmankind3.091]

The scenes with Rhaenyra tell me that all Alicent ever really wanted was a meaningful and sincere apology and acknowledgement for all the dutiful hard work she's been doing. She hadn't been getting that from Rhaenyra until now, clearly. That combined with disowning Aegon as her son, helped her to come around and see Rhaenyra would be the better choice after all.

[@NickNificent]

cut the ALICENT SIMPING RIGHT NOW! She a Psycho! She could have disoveyed Otto years ago and not had to do any of this shit.

[@tcc5750]

Then that part at the end though. Now she thinks Aegon is meant to be King.

[@xXSinForLifeXx]

Really I thought both Rhaenarya and Alicent were making nice for Viserys benefit and faking it.

[@7heSlime]

@@xXSinForLifeXx I don't think they were faking, it felt sincere to me. The problem is that their issues have been passed down to the next generation and them two getting along won't be enough to stave off the coming conflict. That and the fact that there are still others who are actively stoking the flames of war because they believe it will benefit them in the end.

[@xXSinForLifeXx]

@@kmjkmjkmj What serving girl are you talking about? Don't remember anyone being poisoned. Do you mean the girl that was raped? She didn't poison her she just gave her a Plan B drink.

[@Eren.D.Yeagerrrrr]

" once they fought for it " ,... They never fought for it. Daemon never wanted the throne. Only his brother's attention. Daemon's thing is to protect the Targaryen dynasty, his family. He's one of those Targaryens who thinks (& rightly so) Targaryens are beyond mortals. Remember he said, " Who cares about what some lord thinks ? You're the dragon. Your word is law. "

[@theredsir869]

So if I have power my word is law? l will be sure to remember that if I ever get elected into public office.

[@Eren.D.Yeagerrrrr]

@@theredsir869 ??

[@johnnyskinwalker4095]

Yea Daemon himself seems to be a different kind of being than mere mortals. He lives on a different beat than most.

[@DarkxSonxOfxDathomir]

@@theredsir869I hope you don’t make a habit of taking professional advice from fictional tv shows.

[@ToyotasupraYT616]

Notice that the throne did not cut him that time, btw I think Rhaenys seeing the conviction of Viserys reminded her of Corlys the other Valyrian father who is determined to fight for name/family regardless of consequence.

[@Blafard666]

This Aemond kid gonna be a problem... he ate that punch like tictac and showed no fear staring at Daemond ...

[@waitingforgodot466]

LOL. Yup. I love how the actor was so good at portraying the character, even though he didn't have many lines, especially in this episode. I got the feeling that Aemond is really wanting a REAL fight, but he's so good now it is hard to find anyone that would be a true challenge. Punch by his nephew was nothing.

[@awesimo4684]

So FYI, we are now 21 years on from the first episode.

[@dabhyun1133]

Honestly a lot of the viewers are biased towards Rhaenrya and Daemon but I totally understand and get Vaemond's frustration and anger

[@kendonato1887]

Vaemond was spitting fantastic. But, you gotta read the room brah lol.

[@dabhyun1133]

@@kendonato1887 I feel like at that point he knew that he will die just look at how passionately he said bastard and whore 😂😂 he left the slander ringing in everyone's ears.

[@suddenimpulse030]

Please don't post spoilers. Read the pinned comment. TY.

[@marti9734]

Vaemond was just spitting FACTS

[@marti9734]

@@phoebe5067 ahha Alicent more bad and brutal than Rhaenyra? Lol that is funny

[@CJDM310]

The Luke and Rhaena match solves both the problem of blood and the problem of name. Their potential heir would have both the Velaryon blood and the Velaryon name.

[@robboaron]

@@storyofm6820 Blood comes from both parents, so Velaryon blood by Rheana. The name comes from the father and Luke is acknowledged as Velaryon even if he isn't by blood.

[@vkn798]

That’s the whole point. Blood doesn’t come from the patriarchal line, the name alone does. Jace and Luke are both dragon riders. They both inherited Targaryen blood magic from their mother. If the realm believed that blood only passed through the patriarchal line it still wouldn’t matter. Rhaenyra and Rhaenys share the experience of facing doubt in their ability to rule due to their gender. These two characters understand their solution satisfies both name and blood.

[@vkn798]

Let’s not forget Vaemond did not even know that Rhaenyra would betroth Jace and Luke to Baela and Rhaena when he decided to make the petition. The betrothal further strengthens House Velaryon and rights the wrong done by Laenor by ensuring the offspring of Jace and Baela (which the casting makes CLEAR is Velaryon) will sit the iron throne. Furthermore, one of the main themes of the show is the ambition of second sons - Daemon, Vaemond, Aemond, etc. even Aegon is second born. Daemon cuts Vaemond in half for doing exactly what he himself attempted to do. A big part of this story is the entitlement and double standards of Targaryens.

[@robboaron]

@@storyofm6820 Plenty of people in the realm supported Rhaenyra's claim as ruling queen. And the mother's blood matters. The boys are dragon riders because of their mother's blood. Same for Corliss and Rhaena's children who were dragon riders because of their mother's blood. And for the name: Luke and his brothers are acknowledged as a Velaryon by their 'father' Leanor, by the Lord of house Velaryon Corliss and by King Viserys. A king can legitimize basterds.

[@vkn798]

Also, making the Velaryons black for the show is a great casting solution. Instead of wasting time explaining why people don’t believe that Jace Luke and Joff are Laenor’s sons based on rumours hair colour and noses, the casting gets the audience “in on it” immediately, without even showing the relationship between Rhaenyra and Harwin. This show doesn’t waste time explaining what the audience should care about, it shows you, the writing, casting and cinematography are fantastic.

[@pastrma8761]

The scene with the crown falling off and Daemon helping his brother is completely unscripted. Matt picking it up and putting it back on Paddy's head was improvised. That scene was powerful.

[@ciandryl]

Is there a source? I highly doubt it, respectfully

[@xXSinForLifeXx]

That's cool such a sad scene had me emotional.

[@pastrma8761]

@@ciandryl director revealed it you can google and see so many sources :)

[@pastrma8761]

@@ciandryl i actually posted a link but youtube deleted it instantly. Just google it :)

[@7heSlime]

It was probably not originally in the script but it happened during one of the takes and they decided to make it part of the scene, rather than just an improvisation.

[@fisherwest7567]

Idk why but Aemond is my new favorite character. Great performance by whoever that actor is (Also, of course, great video by you two!!!). Episode 9s are infamously awesome on Game of Thrones, so I can't wait for next week!!!

[@SpiralSine6]

Fun fact for you guys: Princess Rhaenys, the mother of Laenor and Laena, is distantly related to King Robert Baratheon and his family from Game of Thrones. Her mother was a Baratheon, which is also why in the books Rhaenys had the famous Baratheon black hair. But to make things simpler to understand, they changed her hair to white in HOTD to make watchers quickly understand she’s a Targaryen.

[@MAKG435]

And King Robert's grandmother was a Targaryen (his father Steffon was the son of princess Rhaelle Targaryen). Robert was king by right of conquest, but also having Targaryen blood strengthened his claim.

[@ТуринТурамбар-п8н]

Stannis is our King!!!🦌🔥

[@farouk8578]

@@ТуринТурамбар-п8н Joffrey is our true king all hail joffrey baratheon

[@Brontebabe]

I wish they would’ve keep her early designed hair where it looked black but she had a lot of gray/white hair because of her age

[@SpiralSine6]

@@MAKG435 as much as that’s true, I think Renly said it best: Renly shrugged. "Tell me, what right did my brother Robert ever have to the Iron Throne?" He did not wait for an answer. "Oh, there was talk of the blood ties between Baratheon and Targaryen, of weddings a hundred years past, of second sons and elder daughters. No one but the maesters care about any of it. Robert won the throne with his warhammer."

[@sam_c95]

For Spartan, a summary of the kids' names roughly in age orders... VISERYS & ALICENT: Aegon, Helaena, Aemond RHAENYRA & LAENOR: Jace, Luke, Joffrey DAEMON & LAENA: Baela, Rhaena (twins) RHAENYRA & DAEMON: Aegon, Viserys (not twins), unborn child AEGON & HELAENA: 3 children, names not yet revealed

[@badgaltinginnit]

Baela and rhaena are not twins in the show cannon. They made baela older by a year or 2 I believe.

[@sam_c95]

@@badgaltinginnit Okay, weird change to make but fair enough! Do you know how we know this? And also why it was changed?

[@kerseykerman7307]

@@sam_c95 Probably because they couldn't find actresses that were identical twins, and if they're not identical it's just unnecessarily confusing for the audience to have them be twins in the first place

[@DanielGarrett0123]

What a pleasure to see how you two IMMEDIATELY understood what was happening in the last scene, and all of the implications. So many other reactors didn't get it at all, even ones who have watched all of GOT. You hit the nail on the head by stating how annoying and ironic it was that Viserys (who had all the best intentions and wanted to heal the rift between the families more than anything in the world) accidentally set it off again by thinking he was talking to Rhaenyra in the last scene. Also have to give the showrunners major props by writing the episode this way. In the books, this never happens. In the books, Alicent and Rhaenyra were never close friends. They're 9 years apart in age in the books. When Viserys marries Alicent in the books, she is 18 and Rhaenyra is 9. Also in the books Alicent was more of a Cersei type character and far less sympathetic than in the show. By creating a friendship between the characters in the show, everything plays out with a lot more emotion. Good on you guys!

[@suddenimpulse030]

I am not sure I agree with that setting things off again, it just further gave Alicent further justification after she had a reprieve from the earlier dinner. A moment like that does not wash away years of history, or what it has done to the views and thoughts of their children, which as we can see from the dinner, were still at each other even when the parents had been more cooperative. It certainly is a tragic situation all the same, and certainly didn't help in the slightest. It may well do extra damage.

[@SpartanandPudgey]

oh wow interesting that the book was that different. I really like the way they did it in the show

[@DanielGarrett0123]

@@suddenimpulse030 In my opinion, the show chose to make it appear that Alicent and Rhaenyra were on the verge of a reconciliation of sorts after the dinner. While their toasts were probably just said to give Viserys some peace, the writers added a scene where Alicent takes Rhaenyra by the hand and entreats her to stay at the Red Keep longer. When Rhaenyra says she'll see the children home and return later on dragonback, the writers clearly want to evoke a feeling of hopefulness in the viewers. After all, the King had already gone to bed and there was no need for either of them to say things they didn't really mean. I quite agree with all you say about not being able to erase years of bad blood in a moment. My point is that the script was clearly structured to make the audience hope that the two women *might* find peace with each other. It's great writing for TV for the script to be so layered. Of course we, the audience (especially book readers) know there is no way this conflict is not going to happen.

[@MasterOfTheElements]

I'm so sad that Rhaenyra never got to hear her father's last words.

[@cgxrabbit1033]

Yes,those words were for her

[@kingslayer3365]

@@brandonj7458 I think they mean what he said to Alicent

[@micahbanks4324]

pudgey you are on top of the plot and everything!! very impressive

[@peters4115]

Aemond stood up when Jace stood up cause he was ready for the smoke and he was waiting for any excuse to fight his nephews. He’s a petty, vengeful man and he hasn’t forgotten being bullied and maimed by them. I think he’s also admired Daemon growing up as another second son and you can see that Daemon can see some of himself in Aemond as well, it’s gonna be a great rivalry for the war. And lastly, Aemond is a anagram for Daemon (just move the D around lol)

[@heizeking3557]

no one forgets when being bullied pal

[@PraxusUK]

@@heizeking3557 Or losing a damn eye.

[@heizeking3557]

@@PraxusUK exactly

[@DillsyYourDaddy67]

I wouldn't exactly call hating someone for bullying you and cutting out your eye petty. If anything, Aemond showed some crazy restraint

[@heizeking3557]

@@DillsyYourDaddy67 so true, it's interesting how Daemon and Team Black fans brushed off Aemond being bullied in his childhood and having taken an eye out like it's nothing, while they cry at Aemond just for giving that speech lol

[@buzzardbeatniks]

Only in the Game of Thrones universe could someone say with excitement "there's gonna be a big discussion coming up"

[@NatashaSalgado]

This episode was amazing. I love Viserys and all his moments in this episode. Paddy deserves that Emmy and any other award, he nailed it. Also Matt and Paddy improvised the moment at the Throne Room and the directors loved it and kept it.

[@ben1ben2ben1]

Its unlikely Paddy wins an Emmy. He will probably get nominated, but going against Succession and the last season of BCS is going to make it near impossible

[@Arnorian3320]

Great reaction! I think it's so interesting how you're watching HotD and GoT at the same time. It gives you a unique perspective on both series.

[@DazHotep6EQUJ5]

If Paddy Considine does not get an Emmy I will be beyond furious. I started out really doubting him as Viserys, seeing him in mainly side character comedy rolls tainted my view of him and I hate to admit that but I couldn't be happier to be wrong he was simply phenomenal. He went from being one of my least favourite characters to being my favourite beside Daemon. This was definitely the best episode yet, can't wait for next 2! Fantastic reaction yet again, you guys never disappoint.

[@ben1ben2ben1]

Lead or supporting? If he is is submitted as lead he has zero chance. Bob Odenkirk has that on lock and rightfully so. Supporting is his best chance, but that is a stacked category as well filled with plenty of deserving actors. Paddy is amazing, but people who say "so and so better win" have rarely seen the other nominations

[@adrijanav9819]

Great reaction guys! I love that every time I see you released a new reaction your numbers are going up! I love that the Greens were on the decomposing side of Visery's face, and the Blacks on the better side, same when Alicent was on his bed in the last scene, and Rheanyra in the beginning, sat next to his good side! Team Black forever!!

[@SpartanandPudgey]

go team black! 🥳

[@annabourdieu]

What I find so sad and tragic in this episode is that the parents seemed to be genuine towards one another. Perhaps it was only for Viserys, but I believe that Rhaenyra and Alicent were honest towards each other and missed their old friendship. Unfortunately, the conflict has already passed to their children, who learned all their life to hate each other, due to bad parenting and the ambition for the throne. That’s very sad, but at least Viserys enjoyed a last day of peace.

[@xXSinForLifeXx]

I thought they were faking it but seeing more comments say it's sincere I'm starting to get confused.

[@annabourdieu]

@@xXSinForLifeXx Well, I would have agree if there wasn't the Alicent and Rhaenyra scene at the end. And looking back at when they made their speeches, Alicent seemed really emotional.

[@Jennifer_Layne]

@@annabourdieu I didn’t get the opinion that they were disingenuous towards one another. Alicent seemed emotional and at a loss for words during Rhaenyra’s toast to her. I also felt Alicent was sincere. When Alicent spoke up, I also got the feeling that she was feeling remorse for the first time at the way she treated Rhaenyra and her children. I think everything could have turned out differently if Alicent had not been so bitter and angry at Rhaenyra. It would have been so different if Alicent called Rhaenyra out on her lies. Instead she let it fester and her hatred of Rhaenyra and then Rhaenyra’s children grew.

[@Leo_ofRedKeep]

This is a story about fear of what the other will do. Being genuine doesn't dispel that.

[@PacificEgg]

It was a 6 year time jump, we know this because the first words of the episode is "It's been six years since I've seen my husband".

[@LauraCourtneyette]

Ikr? The show always spells it out in the beginning of each episode

[@SpartanandPudgey]

Knew it was 6 years since she saw corlys ... but it doesn't necessarily mean he left as soon as everything happened from last episode

[@PacificEgg]

​@@SpartanandPudgey I wasn't trying to sound like an ass, just saw other people wondering how long and how anyone would know. You guys are definitely my fav reactors nowadays

[@alexass8987]

Luke laughed with his future wife at Aemond because there was a pig on the table in front of him. Oh dear, someone has not wised up. Aemond is incredible.

[@nkxseal8398]

I guarantee him and Daemon will fight at some point, gonna be wild

[@phoebe5067]

Do you know Luke is still teenager, right ?

[@leonrussell9607]

@@nkxseal8398 its gonna be the coolest thing to ever happen

[@alahsiaboi8909]

@@leonrussell9607 one-eyed prince vs rogue prince

[@MrPCEnthusiast]

Daemon taking his other eye will be even more incredible 🤣

[@Noonenowhere11]

Visersy be like “I wish I had Ben tested as a king.” You’d been tested alright… to the very last breath… 😢

[@PraxusUK]

Who's Ben?

[@HasaN-ux9fu]

@@PraxusUK Been

[@Blinkptx]

This show has been so good to so many reaction channels. I know I've subbed to several, including y'all, since the start of the series. Great vids you two! Also, next week, The Dance Of Dragons officially begins! 😬

[@sagarikasuresh]

I think people choosing teams of Black or Green are missing out, every character (except Larys lol) is grey and have character arcs and that's the beauty of it.

[@theConquerersMama]

Well said

[@xxxmochibaby]

choosing a team doesn’t mean you don’t recognize the other sides perspective as well. There’s just motivations/characters you will naturally align with more

[@dameinnoble3995]

Nothing says Aussie more than the word "mangled". Love it!

[@math9172]

The thing is with Vaemond, that his blood line would NOT have been lost, since Jace would've married Beala (or the other one idr), "true Velaryon Blood" would've passed to the next generation. So while his initial disagreement was justified, his explosion at the end was straight up stupid. Especially since this went AGAINST Corlys' wish, his brother.

[@waitingforgodot466]

Exactly. Late to the discussion but I agree regarding the "true Velaryon Blood". 100%. If that REALLY was his goal, he should have backed down. He didn't. They were right, it was more to do with ambition. I do understand why it looks like a stupid decision, and in many ways it really really was. But I think he knew what the consequences would probably be. He made a choice. He realized that while he had FINALLY been given at least a chance at getting Driftmark, with Viserys taking the throne to speak publicly to support Lucerys, and his sister in law and Rhaenyra publicly stating the marriages would happen, he knew he had now lost Driftmark. Within a span of minutes. He was SOOOO close, at least to the possibility. And then it was snatched away. That can be worse than pining for something but never really having that chance. A pipe dream vs. a real possibility. From where he stands at that moment, I think he quickly reassessed and realizes that besides having Driftmark sort of snatched away, he has now also "shown his true stripes" so he will probably never be be trusted at Driftmark, if his brother does manage to survive Lord Corlys may be upset with him, if Rhaenyra becomes queen she will never trust him nor will Daemon and he is losing his argument based essentially on a lie, regardless of the marriages. I think he made a conscious decision in that moment to lay out the truth publicly for all to hear, regardless of the cost. The people may "know" the truth, but now it has been clearly stated out loud in a room full of important people. He must have known in committing treason, and with Daemon right there, he would die, or at least suffer a serious punishment. But he got in "the last word" . The actor kind of said as much. Vaemond may die, but he didn't 'go quietly into the night'. I think his ego kicked in. In other words, I don't think it was a stupid decision from the POV of not realizing the danger he was in. He knew. It just seems to me he thought it through and chose to do it anyway out of anger and frustration and crushing disappointment and knowing there may be long term consequences for what he tried to do. He wanted to punish those who had stolen his possible future and was so selfish he didn't even care that in doing so he might be harming his nieces, who ARE of true Velaryon blood. Sorry I rambled a bit. I just liked your post and wanted to follow up.

[@yasmina3999]

@@waitingforgodot466 even though their blood will be saved by marriage, Rhaenyra still dishonored his house by giving birth to 3 obvious bastards. Moreover, she kept Luke for 6 years on a Dragonstone and the boy didn't know anything about the sea and the fleet (remember that at that time almost everyone was sure that Corlys died, which means Luke could already become Lord of Driftmark) +Rhaenyra's marriage to Daemon after her husband's death looked suspicious.

[@waitingforgodot466]

@@yasmina3999 I guess I'm a bit confused at your response, since it seems you may be thinking I would disagree with you? I actually agree. We may be talking a bit past each other. I agree, Rhaenyra dishonored his house. Yup. I honestly don't blame him for being pissed at the circumstances. As I said, he would be losing Driftmark essentially based on a lie. A lie everyone knows is a lie but the King has declared it treason to speak of. I was agreeing with the other post that if ALL he TRULY cared about was the "true Velaryon Blood", then in the end he should have backed down and protected his nieces once the succession was reaffirmed by the King AND the betrothal had been publicly stated and acknowledged. His nieces ARE of true Velaryon Blood. Stating publicly that the boys they are betrothed to are bastards is not only considered treason, it now puts his own blood kin in a very difficult, dangerous and tenuous position moving forward. But what I was also really trying to point out in my original response was that I don't think he made a stupid mistake due to ignorance of the danger he was putting himself in. I know some think he made a bad choice out of ignorance and stupidity. I disagree with that sentiment specifically. I think he knew he would likely die. I think in that moment he thought through everything that had happened, the situation as it now stands, and chose to state publicly the boys were bastards knowing he would likely die. He probably did it for a whole host of reasons, but I do think he was VERY aware that once he crossed that line he might not survive. Therefore, I didn't think it was a "stupid" decision but an informed choice. And an emotional one. Was he angry? Yes. Was his house being dishonored? Yes. Did he have a right to be upset? Of course. It wasn't JUST because his house was being dishonored, though, and it wasn't JUST because he wanted to protect the "true Velaryon Blood". I don't believe that for a second. His own ambitions were also being thwarted. He overplayed his hand and lost. And he did not seem to care one iota how what he was saying would affect his own nieces (TRUE descendants of his own brother) once he made the accusation. Unless he was hoping this would stop the betrothals, but I think he was deluding himself if that is the case. (As for Luke's lack of training at Driftmark, I'm assuming Luke wasn't on Driftmark because, with Lord Corlys not there for 6 years, Luke wasn't really wanted on Driftmark, especially with the suspicious circumstances of Laenor's death. Rhaenys certainly wouldn't have wanted him there after she believed Daemon and Rhaenyra had murdered her son. And definitely not Vaemond. I'm betting bringing Luke to Driftmark to "learn the ropes" was simply never even offered, possibly even actively rejected by Rhaenys and Vaemond, even if they probably did not publicly state why). Hope that clarifies my thoughts.

[@BumpyBaluga]

All Daemon ever did was protect Viserys. Daemon is a the Ride Or Die we all need lol.. Also Daemon, "KEEP MY WIFES NAME OUTCHA MOUTH!!!" *new sub*

[@lanagievski1540]

Daemon should’ve been hand

[@zk8738]

First time we’ve seen viserys sit on the throne and not get cut because he finally did what was right

[@quantumquandary3740]

Nope. The throne thing is just a myth by the common folk. There is zero consistency to the throne cutting thing in the actual history of kings in the world.

[@_BloodWork_]

Rhaenyra can‘t tell Rhaenys the truth about Laenor because that would make her marriage to Daemon illegitimate. Especially if others found out which they would if Rhaenys flew to Essos or try to make contact (even just to verify)

[@JrKengu]

i actually thought about this a lot, like why not just tell them, but you are probably right that it would cause more issues. I still feel really bad for Rhaenys, and so far she is my favourite in the show, the actress is great.

[@angelalurtz3638]

@@JrKengu yep, she can't be married to Daemon if Laenor is still alive, which would also make her children with him three more bastards, and both she and Daemon would be criminals

[@suddenimpulse030]

@@kmjkmjkmj If they were in Valyria this would be fine, but this is not acceptable in Westeros culture and religion. It would be politically and practically untenable.

[@_BloodWork_]

@@kmjkmjkmj Like @SuddenImpulse030 said. In Valyria no biggie. In Westeros not possible, Aegon did it and they accepted it because they had no other choice. After that Maegor did and it lead to bloody war between the faith-loyalists and the royalists. Jahaeris then made them accept the incest but accepted only to have one wife as custom. Also the Greens would use that to sway many lords in the realm to their side.

[@vivienthape5265]

I don’t know if this counts as a spoiler but according to the producers there aren’t going to be further time jumps!! Yeah to that 🎉

[@Bibins_]

your explanation on Aemond being wrong is funny. You are way too kind for the Game of Thrones/House of the Dragon logic. He never stole it because dragons are not properties. Vhagar is very smart and dragons tend to create a bond with their riders. many died attempting to tame them. that means vhagar sees Aemond as deserving

[@psychedelicpegasus7587]

Vhagar: "Hmmm, the wee lad wants a go? Let's see how he does". ~Several minutes later~ Vhagar: "Well, would ya look at that! He's still alive? His arms are still on and everything! Fine, we can be best buds then".

[@Bibins_]

@@psychedelicpegasus7587 hahahah spot on

[@toobusytocare7555]

The daughter had an equal chance to claim the dragon and he stole that chance by sneaking out at night and claimed it behind everyone's back. He wouldn't sneak to do it, if he was doing something right??

[@Bibins_]

Dragons were never meant to be passed on from parents to children they are wild creatures. Aemond did what was only natural. He wanted a dragon and he got one. It is unethical of course but this is house of the dragon. Power is power

[@cmd7930]

@@toobusytocare7555 do you think Alicent would allow her 10yo son to claim Vhagar? Aemond had to do it secretly. Also Baela or Rhaena had plenty of time to claim Vhagar

[@Zophiela]

Aemond is named after Daemon and it’s no wonder they’re so similar. Both second sons with something to prove.

[@The_Macho_King]

I’m binging thru your HOTD playlist and think you guys are great!! I hope you enjoy. I’ve read everything and seen GOT and this show is awesome! I live the genuine take on the story. It really is fun to watch. I’d say to look into “the blood of the dragon”. It’s a way of describing a targy. Some have it and some don’t. When you see what I’m talking about, you can just tell who has it and who doesn’t. It helps understand the character even more. Keep up the great job!!!😊

[@mike90317]

Great reaction and discussion. Next episode is gonna be huge!

[@TomsTube]

Damn Pudgey on fleek with remembering all the names and relationships so far!!! Even I’m having a rough time and I’m an old GoT fan haha 😅👍🏻

[@Svendsor]

I watch a lot of reaction videos. Mostly of stuff that I've watched. I love seeing people's reactions to good movies/series. You both compliment each other very much. Pudgey is the analyst/strategist and Spartan is the emotional/impulsive one. Wonderful job on the editing. You're capturing the important bits. Keep going. Wish you all the best. Greetings from Norway :)

[@mayorkeystone3094]

The symbolism in Viserys wounds were from his missteps as king. Because he could not keep his own house in order, it ate away at his power and the future. He forced the burden of childbirth onto his wife and was suffering carrying the burden on his back as well, he trusted in his hand that was manipulating him and so his hand began to rot. Towards the end, he refused to acknowledge or SEE that his daughter clearly had bastards for sons and thus his eye was removed. His love and trusting nature consumed his body as that's not how you can rule.

[@CodyTaylor115]

Valerian steel is some high quality stuff to make such a clean cut!

[@bluesclues8288]

The Daemond and Viserys moment throughout this eps got me crying like litte Aegon and Little Viserys. 😭

[@hoon_sol]

They said in the very beginning that Corlys had been gone for near 6 years, implying that he left right after the last episode ended, so it's been ~6 years.

[@cgxrabbit1033]

He gone to find his son

[@marina9652]

they don't pay attention

[@hoon_sol]

@@marina9652: They definitely do, they catch a lot of things. She is clearly a bit more attentive than he is in general, but his interpretations are generally a bit more accurate.

[@hoon_sol]

@@cgxrabbit1033: I doubt it. He was probably overcome with anger and grief, and set out to do what he had been doing all his life, i.e. sailing and adventuring and fighting. There's nothing that suggests he is aware that Laenor is alive.

[@hoon_sol]

@Jerr_Pag: It's easy to miss a few things here and there, especially when actively reacting to an audience and discussing with each other in realtime. Overall they're catching most of what's going on, there are both people I know in real life and myriad other KZbin reacters who are far, far worse.

[@jennysutton7409]

Good reaction as always and I love this episode because it's so heartwarming and hopeful as specially at the end when Aemma comes to take the king with her and that is shown off screen because he puts his hand up and says my love meaning he saw her when dying. Now that the king is dead things will no doubt get worse including the fighting in the family as well. Knowing Alicent she will no doubt think the king's last words meant that he wants their son to take the Iron Throne because she always hears what she wants to in these situations, which in it's own right will cause war I think which sucks because I really wish Alicent and Rhaenyra could be friends again.

[@sagarikasuresh]

'mangled' is my new favourite word after I started watching GoT and HotD w y'all lmao Edit: someone should make an edit w all the times you guys have used it

[@SpartanandPudgey]

🤣🤣 someone please do. Would be so funny

[@rocinante4609]

Its remarkable how similar Aemond and Daemon are to each other. Even their names are similar. Move the D from first to last and you get Aemond. Im sure Daemon sees his younger self in his nephew. Too bad they are on opposite sides of this.

[@sanjaysanj5603]

its a cycle as the original rider of caraxes was daemon's uncle aemon, which sounds similar and now he is uncle to aemond lol.

[@smithgdwg]

I'm sure Daemon admires Aemond on how he was able to get his Dragon. That is the sort of thing he would of done.

[@EdAnsbro]

I wasn't that big a fan of Paddy when I 1st heard he was cast as Viserys. I had seen him in the HBO show "The Outsider" and wasn't that impressed. He deserves any and all awards for his portrayal of the King. He was fucking awesome.

[@charmedoriginal5923]

TIME JUMPS: Episode 2: 6 Months Episode 3: 2 Years & 6 Months Episode 6: 10 Years Episode 8: 6 Years

[@LegendaryBrandon1]

Like the content y'all! Pudgey knows her stuff :)

[@jackson857]

Love your reactions guys!

[@cmd7930]

Cried when Daemon helped Viserys.

[@xXSinForLifeXx]

Yes that was sad

[@madcow4863]

As soon as Viserys is out of the room they start fighting. I like to think the reason Viserys has lived so long is because he knew he was the only thing keeping the peace between both sides of his family.

[@extrasmack]

This episode was a cut above. If you've ever seen a loved one fade before your eyes whether from cancer, als of any host of degenerative conditions you'll truly appreciate the realism that was brought to Viserys' last days. Paddy Constandine nailed there performance! Such a traffic turn at the end as well. Everything he accomplished at the end undone by a miscommunication! Excellently done. I was with you guys last episode. It didn't insistent click that Damon's laugh was meant to redirect the heat at himself. Though it now makes sense, I originally took it as him simply laughing at the mention of unsighted Valeryon blood while knowing it to bed farthest from there case. I totally missed that the statement was a direct attempt to throw shade Rhaenyra's direction. From what I've seen we weren't alone. Many others missed that detail. Great reaction! I'm really enjoying your discussions and the way each of your perceptions compliments the other's. Cheers!

[@emmapowers8033]

What’s interesting is that the scene where the crown fell off of Viserys’ head wasn’t actually planned. Daemon picking it up and placing it was all unscripted and they liked it so much they kept it in the final cut.

[@veronicamars8419]

Totally agree with Pudgey about Aemond in previous episode. Laena's kids probably haven't fully-processed yet that their mother is really gone and anyone can ride Vhagar now. And people want to invalidate their reaction by hammering in how wrong they are cause of technical dragon-riding laws. Wanting to confront the person who in their eyes disrespected their mother on her funeral day is perfectly normal. Aemond was being insensitive and also the first one who hurled insults and acted all superior. His bonding scene with Vhagar was really cool but what turned me off was his attitude right after. And yeah he's a kid too who prob grew up on bad parenting, that's understandable. But in that situation he's definitely not the victim a lot of fans are making him to be. About this episode, I really get Spartan's frustration about that last scene. I felt like there was a glimmer of hope for Rhaenyra and Alicent's relationship, but I'm afraid it has been snuffed out. Alicent will use what she heard from Viserys as justification to put Aegon in the throne and go against Rhaenyra.

[@MegaTechpc]

Almond was the only one who had the courage to stand before Vhagar and claim her. No one else could’ve done that so bravo to him. I actually despise Aemond (from the books) but credit where it is due.

[@veronicamars8419]

@Alyssa Ravenheart Okay then sue me for saying he wasn't a victim. Might help you sleep at night

[@DillsyYourDaddy67]

In defense of Aemond, he had been bullied by his siblings for not having a dragon of his own and was picked on for being small and weak for most of his life at that point so he saw his first chance at claiming THE powerful dragon and took it. Also, not sure if it is canon to the show, but Viserys to a degree, also put Aemond down for not having a dragon. Still, I agree about his being insensitive. As for his attitude, it's a classic TV and writing trope, weak kid that is bullied and weak suddenly gets a huge boost to his power and ego so he goes a little crazy over it. Plus could you imagine the sheer adrenaline you'd have from riding a literal dragon? I would still consider him a victim though. You forget that the other kids started the fight and all four of them were beating him when he grabbed the rock to defend himself. He stopped fighting them but then Jace drew a literal blade and that's just an escalation you cannot back down from.

[@adamcummings20]

Best part of this episode: All three "Rhae's" in one scene

[@masha_reacts]

i'm pretty sure there are not going to be any major time skips anymore and the actors in this episode are going to stay from now on

[@boxmulla]

Alicent misunderstood the last Viserys words. Cause of drinking milk of the puppy his senses are confused, and in his mind he was talking to Rhaenyra

[@Leo_ofRedKeep]

She did understand as he went on about the prince. That's why she left.

[@sanshine4717]

17:43 let's also remember that while viserys was a great father to rhaenyra, he was a shit father to aegon, aemond and haelaena. Maybe her children wouldn't have turned so bad if he didn't left alicent alone to raise them.

[@jonstark153]

I'm so angry that everyone chooses to overlook this fact

[@suddenimpulse030]

I think Otto is far more to blame for that one, personally. Not to say Viserys is blameless. His continued inaction over the years was a main reason this happened. At the same time, Alicent, Otto, Daemon and Rhaenyra all in varying degrees share part of the blame as well. It is a tragic situation.

[@waitingforgodot466]

I agree he didn't seem to be a very good father to Alicent's children but, to be fair, he was already ill/struggling somewhat when Aegon was only 2. He couldn't even dismount his horse properly and was already in pain. He continued to decline for years and was barely functional the last years of his life. Rhaenyra had two healthy parents for most of her early years. And I'm betting Otto was pushing for Alicent to have control over the raising of the kids, not Viserys.

[@snowforia5019]

I’ve just realised Alicent says ‘especially today’ because the petition is questioning Luke’s parentage and Rhaenyra’s virtue, and Aegon running around fathering bastards would put a dent in the crown’s authority in this matter. Good to see Alicent at least holds Aegon up to the same standards that women are judged by.

[@suddenimpulse030]

Eh she cares more about the appearance than the standards. It seems this "behavior" of laying with women without their consent has happened a few times before based on how it was presented, especially how quickly the moon tea was brought in, which is a complicated concoction only made by maesters.

[@snowforia5019]

@@suddenimpulse030 Yeah that’s true. The seven and ‘upholding decency’ are the only weapons she can publicly use against Rhaenyra, and Aegon was undermining that I guess.

[@TheWindcrow]

Reneara's toast to Alicent is the one time that Daemon shows respect to anyone other than his brother. (I think he respects Alicent's devotion)

[@Ryan-hj3pu]

I'm laughing at the "courtesy" part about Aemond not taming Vhaegar. In what world would you think that way when your House is at war with another for the highest position in the realm. Alicent and her children have targets on their backs. Aemond taming that dragon when he did was the smartest thing he could have done, and gave Team Green a massive power boost. Also in the fight scene last episode, Aemond didn't use violence first...it was self defense AND he still lost an eye. He also held back from hitting the kid with the rock. Alicent acting out as she did was fully understandable as well, you gotta put yourself in her shoes. Meanwhile Rhaenyra says "Aegon should be sharpy questioned" meaning tourtured. I like parts of both sides, but they are both the villians lol. I'm a bit late on this reaction, but wanted to give my two cents. Loving the reactions so far! Also really enjoyed The Witcher ones. #TeamGreen

[@MFBloosh]

It's impressive when someone who knows the story from watching the original show can pick up on almost everything, but it's even more impressive that people with little to no knowledge of the main story can pick of on little things so quickly. These shows don't hold your hand one bit, so an important piece of dialogue can be over in 5 seconds and it's on to the next thing. Like when Aegon and Aemond were talking about marrying their sister last episode. It was literally 5 seconds of them saying that and then that was all we heard of it.

[@theConquerersMama]

Some people listen attentively. They also may rewatch a show while editing or just to refresh as many do.

[@TomTomson81]

It was said right at the beginning that 6 years have passed. There are disadvantages if Alicent's and Raehnyra's sons sharing the same name. It is very unfortunate that Alicent now really believes that she has the king's consent to ascend the throne herself. Or at least that she believes she is part of the prophecy on which the future of the house depends. This means that she has to have Raehnyra and her sons eliminated, because officially the king gave her the support again. There is no other way. And she believes that this is exactly what the king has unofficially given his consent to. Middlefinger Strong and his assassins will probably be used again for this.

[@LMarti13]

I'm not sure if you quite understood why Princess Rhaenys sided with Rhaenyra. Daemon is right that she keeps politics and her sons "death" separate. Rhaenys said it herself to Rhaenyra: "You can bargain with me all you like but tomorrow [you're going to lose]." Siding with her would have done literally nothing. But once Viserys came in and it became clear that Rhaenyra would win, she took advantage of the betrothal offer and sided with her.

[@suddenimpulse030]

Yep. You can see this in her face change and the camera focus on her when Viserys came into the throne room. The situation had changed. I'm sure she also respected the fact that he put in the effort to show up for this and then focused on her opinion on the matter over everyone else's as well.

[@scotthadden9816]

Another series you might want to watch in-between season of this is The Last Kingdom on Netflix, very similar style of show, but it's set in our world during the reign of Alfred the Great.

[@tercerocastero]

If you poke a bear with a stick who is to blame when you are mauled? We typically say things like either no one is to blame or everyone is to blame, which usually leads to no consequences taken. Or more often we seek to vindicate one as the victim and lay all the blame on the other, when consequences must be taken. That is what I love about this show and the GOT world is it shows the harsh reality that in most situations everyone at least plays a part in what happens and blame or vindication all lie in just what perspective you see. How many puzzle pieces are in front of you to make your judgment, and what weight do you give to each? Really appreciate that you see it and discuss it so often when seeing both sides of each plot point and character. I'm fully on team black as well, but understand anyone that is fully on team green. Both Alicent and Rhaenyra have many strengths and flaws. Valid noble motivations and selfishly justified ones. We all have our favorite points of view from each character.

[@crystall.411]

as others have said daemon never fought for the throne he fought for his brothers approval and he wanted to be there for him at his side and for his brother to believe in him.

[@Divine_Chareka]

The director of this episode Geeta Patel said Viserys wasn't walking towards the throne but towards his daughter. This episode is definitely my favorite from season 1. It's so so good and very emotional on so many levels. Loving your reactions!!

[@Blafard666]

You guys called Vyseris dead so many times since the start of the show XD

[@TisBoiGoTSkiLLz]

IMO Viserys is one of the best characters in the GoT universe. One true character that was not corrupt while still able to fulfill his duties as a King.

[@LSG101097]

Viserys is one of the worst. He is weak, all he did was to split and destroy his house and the realm. It's such an obvious mistakes but still kept doing it because he was blinded by his love for his unfit daughter.

[@luigicavallo270]

"Otto?" "Yes, Your Grace?" "Get off my fucking chair!"

[@darrellhenry9152]

The incest marriages are only acceptable among the Targaryens. Which is why everyone is upset/disgusted with Cersei and Jaimie.

[@snowforia5019]

A consort is a monarch’s spouse, so Alicent is Viserys’ Queen consort. A regent rules on behalf of a monarch who’s either to young or sick rule. So Alicent is pretty much Viserys’ regent too, but she’s already Queen consort.

[@snowforia5019]

Daemon is already called Rhaenyra’s consort because he’s already a prince and has his own claim. They have to make it clear that she is the heir, not him. That’s also why he’d be prince consort rather than king consort.

[@suddenimpulse030]

The Hand is in the 2nd highest position, so when the king is away or sickly, usually. Hence why both Otto and Ned were sitting the throne, not Alicent or Cersei, but yes if they were officially Queen Regent it would be a bit different, but sometimes there is some flexibility in the two positions given the context, historically. Alicent would likely be the long term one making decisions if the king passed but a child considered too young was the heir. Cersei in the case of a Joffrey, normally, which is why Robert chose to have Ned take that position instead via the written letter. He trusted him more in that position as well as to course correct Joffrey as he aged.

[@suddenimpulse030]

Also yes exactly right on Daemon.

[@Hollygli]

Paddy Considine confirmed in an interview to Entertainment Weekly that Viserys has been suffering from some form of leprosy.

[@sagan666]

No longer summer children.. Hardened by Ice & Fire.

[@jay_ooh]

If the throne cuts you, it's rejecting you,.... That's the legacy of the iron throne! I think she was spot on but it's also been reported that Viserys also has a form of non-contagious leprosy that's been eating at him for years, hence the loss of limbs as the years go by

[@FullMetalB]

It's funny how the characters in this story take up a "blacks vs greens" rivalry while the story shows they all have their own, actual reasons for doing things, even the horrible things they all do. Showing that there really isn't one perfect side that is "right" and yet so many of the viewers are like "yeah! Let's actually think back vs green and argue at everyone for picking a different side!" If you are picking a side, you havent been paying attention.

[@phoenixfox2697]

The sheer intensity of the arguments in the comments of reaction videos is crazy. People are acting like what side you’re on has some bearing on their actual real lives.

[@LSG101097]

Of course it's better to stay out of it, but sometimes it's just impossible. There is only so much shit people can tolerate, and when it overflows you just can not keep it neutral anymore. I could tolerate Rhaenyra's shit up until the point of her mothering 3 bastards and naming two of them heirs. It's just too much to overlook even if I try really hard. It's just disgusting abomination. To equal them greens have to do something bad enough either. But they still didn't for the whole season. So I'll be hoping they would, so I could be neutral again. But for now there is clearly a better side and disgusting one.

[@Heather61776]

Mysaria returns..... after Otto does.... and the girl was the same one that brought the queen the moon tea in the beginning

[@tellmeajoke4645]

Matt Smith who plays daemon didn't want to do this show in the first place until he saw paddy considine was cast to play viserys and it makes sense. That throne scene when he drops the crown was all improvised as well as daemon walking up to carry the crown for his brother. They work so well off of eachother

[@rx7dude2006]

Here is another reason Alicent believed he was talking about their son Aegon when he spoke his dying words.This is the script from episode 3 by the fire. Is everything all right, Your Grace? You know, I... I named her... to protect the realm from Daemon. She was my only child. "The Realm's Delight." I named her out of love because I no longer believed... Believed what, my love? ( sighs ) Many in my line have been dragon riders. Very few among us have been dreamers. What is the power of a dragon... next to the power of prophecy. The hour is too late, husband. When Rhaenyra was a child... I saw it in a dream... as vivid as these flames, I saw it. A male babe born to me... wearing the Conqueror's crown. ( sighs ) And I so wanted it to be true, to be a dreamer myself. I sought that vision again, night after night... but it never came again. I poured all my thought and will into it. And my obsession killed Rhaenyra's mother. Queen Alicent: Viserys. I thought Rhaenyra was the way out of my abyss of grief and regret. And naming her heir would begin to set things right. Oh, it did. I never imagined I would remarry... that I would have a son.

[@madiisonno]

when luke marrys baela the valeryon blood will still be at driftmark to continue the line, it will be mixed with targaryen and strong blood obviously but their bloodline would still continue

[@bill.godwin-austen]

That should be the last big (years) time jump. The scheduled next three seasons cover about 3 years in history, so we should only see the passage of a month or two per episode.

[@NickNificent]

who woulda thought Almost no action in a whole series, and just Politicking would be so enjoyable. Welcome to the Game of Thrones.