Rebuilding and Modifying a $4000 BMW E46 M3 - Part 15

[@ren930]

You guys really should use front shock tower reinforcement plates while using camber plates. E46s have strut tower failure even with the stock top mounts; metal camber plates with stiff springs and dampers will crack them in a few thousand miles.

[@The_True_]

C'mon PT, paint those calipers gold! No more crusty crabs on those rotors!✌😎

[@steifan]

they should put clear coat on them for fun xD

[@heyhayhay247]

Even just some black paint would be good. I did the same blue that all the M brakes get now on my E39

[@The_True_]

@@heyhayhay247 True, but I liked Dave's suggestion with this particular car! Slightly flashy drift cars are great!

[@ricepony33]

Just paint the calipers black or something

[@NormenBGaming]

I Love the wheel bolts. It is best way to not scrub your wheels on the threads of the bolts. There are mounting Tools out there that help you keep the wheel up or slide the wheel in.

[@angry.8]

Awesome recommendations, sounds like you guys really know your stuff.

[@deanward1716]

Paint those calipers, great work guys.

[@franciscopellot3849]

Great stuff guys, keep up the great content. Please put some black paint on the calipers ,just like PT said it's a eye sore.

[@BenFreedmanRacing]

Looking good! Nice to see this thing coming together so fast!

[@Ryousure]

Engine mods. You mean engine maintenance and factory repair issues

[@killersushi99]

Well....that's the direct translation. XD

[@jackm210]

Favourite car channel and great build. When are we gonna see some miata and the 5 panel hat back in stock on the shop? 🤙👌

[@WelcomeToTheMadness]

The calipers looks like the same ones on the E36M3. I like the way the wheels look. 👌🏾

[@jonathanmoga5188]

The fronts are the same. Rear has a slightly bigger rear piston in the e46m.

[@rnicholls42069]

I've run the Stoptech sport pads front and rear on my 91 Civic for track duty, no fade with brake ducts up front. It is a very light car however

[@dreamdrivedrift]

Patiently waiting for the Classic Crest hoodie to come back in stock :)

[@PGHdrift]

I run medium pads up front on my drift car and run oem organic pads in rear since they are the softest and grip the best quick under handbrake.

[@speedacademy]

Thanks for the info.

[@PGHdrift]

You just want the most bite for the rear and honestly most have a lifetime warranty which is awesome to have keep that in mind.

[@karmatose]

I like Hawk HT-10 pads. They're dusty and noisy af, but they can handle street duty and do better than a 20 minute lapping session.

[@pFbSpecV]

Hell yes!!! Well done guys! You guys going to do a compare cost video on both cars?

[@speedacademy]

We werent planning on it but we will

[@pFbSpecV]

@@speedacademy sick!!

[@mas921]

Oh yeah been waiting for this since i've seen the instagram story teaser 😉

[@rolandotillit2867]

Carbotech xp8 is IMHO the best compromise between street and track in a brake pad.

[@shadowxps]

My vote is those calipers need to be the same color as that eibach bar

[@Warex06]

At 0:02 into the video, this guy is really holding the coilover strut like it’s a baby 👶

[@Jetbill007]

More vids on the Bmw project!

[@dakotashireman6404]

wasn't this a budget build? send it!!

[@x-hooktowhook3904]

Got the dirty engine stuff out of the way and on the pretty stuff!!!

[@ryantran89]

All this work, one day at the track, then stuffed away under a car cover.

[@wowsplat]

Doubt it, flip it and purchase the next project

[@speedacademy]

The intent is to get both the cars out to as many track days as we can to practice our skills. Reality is, how many of those videos will you watch? The YT world wants new projects not the same ones, otherwise we'd be building one or two cars a year and tuning them to be the best they can

[@MeowMr2]

I use ebc yellows on my cars. From track to drift to daily. Love the bite, but only downside is the dust. Black wheels are a must lol

[@jakethesnake1503]

MeowMr2 ebc yellows were my favourite even over hawks

[@jonathanmoga5188]

Pagid rs29s over here with a fixed front caliper. ditched the stock slider bunk.

[@speedacademy]

More details on the fixed caliper?

[@jonathanmoga5188]

@@speedacademy I went for the 135i calipers. Got them real cheap. Lots of misinfo on them on the forums so that helped with initial buy in. They work very well. No more rusting factory sliders. No need for brass pins etc. You get a quality fixed set up which feels great and is way more rigid. Theyve held up just fine with properly fitted pads. Stock rotor size works. If you want to spend more there are many options (Porsche, stoptech etc). For a drift car youre fine in the route you went

[@AK47xSNIPES]

Will you guys be doing a track test on this? Really want to see what you guys think of the zestino

[@AK47xSNIPES]

... Nvm make this comment before i finished

[@Garage_Z5]

Dave has dreamt his entire life about using black nuts on a stud!

[@TheStwat]

PT's OCD must have been in overdrive for this episode :)

[@inorbit64]

Why get those single piece stoptech brakedisks when BMW itself has these awesome floating 2 piece disks.

[@speedacademy]

Good sir, the original rotors (brake disks) from BMW are not 2-piece. They are a single rotor.

[@jdmfreak22]

Those callipers threw me off,.big.time! C'mon guys!!!

[@felixlugo9109]

I notice you guys didn’t put the anti rattle spring on caliper

[@The_True_]

Everyone knows that Pro Spec Racing studs are longer, thicker, and more durable with the double nut insertion. 😏oh yeah.✌😂

[@valdipietro]

NO DAVE. SINGLE WAY ADJUSTABLE 24 LEVELS OF ADJUSTMENT AAAAAAAAAAA

[@rthomp03]

This build sure is getting expensive. You've basically fixed or replaced most of the mechanical components at this point, which certainly isn't cheap on a BMW. I think the 350z was the much better option for entry-level drift build, even if it wasn't already modified. Are you guys going to do a final cost summary for each car?

[@jonathanmoga5188]

Welcome to buying a used car that you want to track

[@speedacademy]

It's been a slippery slope for sure. The issue is once you're in there the temptation to fix all the worn out items is big since we've been there and done the opposite and having to go back and yank everything all over again is not only frustrating but digs into our already busy schedule.

[@rthomp03]

@@speedacademy Well worst case scenario, you prolonged the life of a car that was probably headed for a scrap yard soon. And it's a good cautionary tale about how a "cheap" used car isn't always the least expensive option.

[@jonathanmoga5188]

@@rthomp03 certainly much cheaper than a new m3.

[@nettracher]

8:04 DEEEEEZZZ NUUUUTTTSSSSS

[@revolutionday1]

#goteem

[@supersevenn]

whomever installed those tires needs to know what the dots on the sidewall means

[@atraxr603]

It's where the tire is lightest (or heaviest, depends on the manufacturer, some have both) so you can line it with the stem, that way you use less weights. That is if the wheel itself is perfectly balanced.

[@FC3STurbo]

any reason not to use the retaining clip on the caliper?

[@UndeadCrook]

Test fitting wheels they said.

[@speedacademy]

Yes, those were installed afterwards.

[@lamboferruccio]

BMW Performance 6 Piston upgrade from the 135i would have been nice but since this is a budget build 😂

[@s4ms0n1t3]

Bought a vert for a track car? Scraping the barrel a bit..

[@PatricGleason]

At 6:15, girthyness? Is that Canadian? Just wondering... 😁

[@cielosnegro]

Don't forget to put the brake hardware that goes in front of the caliper.

[@speedacademy]

we did all that afterwards.

[@jakethesnake1503]

Funny story I had 5Zigen GN+ slide and fishtaled a curb hitting a pull and my rim didn't bend but instead broke the hub off the rear beam of the car.

[@jakethesnake1503]

Leason learned dont drive drunk on cold summer tires in October

[@jakethesnake1503]

Can you guys get more into rebound and compression?

[@speedacademy]

Our website has a lot of great info on the subject. www.speed.academy

[@atlikristjan357]

Try porter filed pads, I know some spec e46 racers use them and love them. Or pagid pads

[@coldvaper]

How does flow formed wheels stack up against forged, forged still stronger over all, just more expensive?

[@TheJPenguin]

Forged is stronger (and usually lighter, cause of less material as mentioned with cast vs flow). Flow forged is a hybrid approach to bridge between the cost of a cast vs the strength of fully forged.

[@speedacademy]

speed.academy/why-wheel-manufacturing-method-load-rating-matter/

[@heyhayhay247]

Color match the blue that all the new M cars get on their calipers

[@PANTYEATR1]

question...the vanes on the rotor aren't pitched or scooping towards the front of the car in the video...is that right? i thought the the vanes face forward so air can be forced into the rotor while going forward...😕

[@vongdong10]

Those holes are just there to release the gases from the brake pads. Plus it depends on the center veins, not the ones on the face that determine which direction they should be facing.

[@PANTYEATR1]

@@vongdong10 I'm talking about the center vanes. i know what the holes are for...

[@vongdong10]

​@@PANTYEATR1 Oh, well there's an R sticker on it which I was assume means right.

[@PANTYEATR1]

@@vongdong10 i see the R as well, but I want to know why the rotor doesn't scoop at air?

[@Turbochargedtwelve]

Airflow from a brake rotor is from the center out to the periphery. If a rotor has directional vanes they should be pitched counter clockwise.

[@wilhobbs207]

You have a Fire Engine Red anti-roll bar but you don't want to paint the calipers? C'mon they look like hell. 🙂

[@rtsoccerplayer]

@7:41 DP is all about those black nuts lol

[@altimatic2183]

Big mistake with drilled rotors I cracked mine today

[@speedacademy]

Never had any issues with Stoptech drilled rotors.

[@altimatic2183]

@@speedacademy I have the drilled and slotted ones on my s2k, they got cracked on a mountain run. Maybe I need those cooling ducts

[@afroman5531]

@@altimatic2183 yeah more the likely, if they got extreamly hot then rapidly cooled

[@Kevin-sc300]

Check out condorspeed shop!!

[@atraxr603]

Wheel bolts are my pet peeve. I worked at the tire shop and absolutely hated those, especially after 30 cars that went through my hands in a shift. Absolutely ridiculous, especially with big heavy wheels.

[@speedacademy]

Oh brother, I feel your pain!

[@MikeyFIXED456]

Why aren't you guys installing an angle kit?

[@rthomp03]

They explained in an earlier episode that the M3 already has pretty good steering angle. They'll probably have to do an angle kit on the 350z though.

[@speedacademy]

We want to test it out with stock angle first.

[@mondomoleno.3404]

Clean the rust off the calipers, paint them rust brown.

[@STR8RIPPINZ33]

What ever happened with Sashas Z?

[@xozindustries7451]

Race studs on 100,000 mile stock hubs?

[@aaronpeople101]

Thomas Cahill he used the street studs

[@aaronpeople101]

Never mind haha

[@alexresendes3917]

Did anyone else notice how black the brake fluid in the bottle was?

[@revolutionday1]

Really just gonna' leave that sway bar bright red, on that citron/green car...?

[@JVR_Funwithdesign]

All that work and then forgets to reinstall the anti-rattle clip... ;)

[@speedacademy]

It was installed afterwards :)

[@buddhamind]

Deez nuts!

[@bigmattolly4910]

Sorry to say Fortune auto is not all that great with customise work. I asked them if they would make me some front coilovers for my first gen Celica using s15 casings as that's what I'm running up front. They flat out said they would not help me and this was after Dave you had work done for you. Shit happens I guess :(

[@_Greasyzoku_]

Bigmat Tolly they wouldn’t build me coilovers for my SRT8 Magnum either :(

[@bigmattolly4910]

I think the bespoke wagon needs to be addressed

[@181667]

All this work and you haven't shredded a single tire. I feel like Big-P lost the feel and spirit of a budget drift build back when he wanted to keep the interior. I think you might end up regretting not driving and fine tuning the build after minor changes to get a feel for the car so your skills get better as the capabilities of the car gets better. I know you want to protect your investment and not blow a motor or some suspension bits by doing maintenance but its honestly too much and a bit overkill. It looks like your not having any fun yet and its depressing. But best of luck on the road to finish the build.

[@speedacademy]

Havent lost the spirit but it's a slippery slope when fixing worn out items because once the engine is out you want to do all the maintenance so that you dont have to worry about later on. If I tried to drift this car when it was somewhat stock it would have been a full mess, broken clutch fork, questionable bearings, worn tie rods would have quickly ended the fun. More importantly my mind frame is that I dont want take a heap car and break it first time out. Im always frustrated when that happens in videos, there's no payoff. Plus, it's winter so it made sense rebuilding all this :)

[@azzdog]

Why he didn't just buy a semi decent M3 in the beginning alludes me. Could've been on the track already.

[@speedacademy]

@@azzdog Sure I could've spent 10K on one maybe 15K but that doesnt ensure that the rod bearings have been done or the subframe reinforcement, etc. Despite there being a lot of work that needs to go into this car at least Ill know it has all the fixes completed.

[@lb9gta307]

I too hate wheel bolts

[@leoriskind4623]

this is stupid, now chassis flexing more than suspension, convertibles born dead

[@markt9438]

sorry guys thumbs down no paint on caliper after all that work and restoration !!! What are u kidding ME !?

[@TheSergeiFranco]

Single piston front calliper on an M3? Really?

[@jonathanmoga5188]

Thats how they came from the factory then

[@TheSergeiFranco]

@@jonathanmoga5188 I suspected so, but that is ridiculous to have top of the range 3 series with crappy single piston brakes at the front. What was BMW thinking? I guess their accountants were thinking in this case.

[@jonathanmoga5188]

@@TheSergeiFranco it was a different time. Fixed calipers were usually reserved for the very top sports cars. Unlike today. Despite that, they still functioned quite well.

[@TheSergeiFranco]

@@jonathanmoga5188 My old 1998 Celica (1993 model) had 4 piston callipers from factory, granted it was top Celica, but it was a Celica after all. Even late `90 Hilux (4-Runner) had 4 piston callipers. The single piston callipers are terrible, as there is a limit in pad shape, the sliders gets stuck causing uneven wear, uneven wear from the pad "walking", because of the shape limitation comes in rotor size limitation, rotor thickness is limited, etc. Since `90 most of Japanese sports cars had at least dual piston floating calliper. Most of top Japanese sports cars had 4 piston callipers and 300+mm x 30+mm rotors. Taken a car with a twin piston and 270mm x 28mm rotor on the track, and having brake fire after 5 laps, just gives insight how terrible are the floating callipers. The 4 Piston and 320x32mm upgrade solved all the braking issues. Having thicker rotor makes a huge difference how much energy it can dissipate.

[@jonathanmoga5188]

@@TheSergeiFranco I agree the stock slider has limitations and is a cost cutting measure. Even the whale of an e90 runs a single piston slider. It wasnt until the f series M cars where they went to a multi piston fixed set up. But braking is a designed as a package. Not just what type of caliper you have. Many variables at play. A stock e46 m3 still out brakes the celica. Stock vs stock. ;) The stock e46 m3 rotors are 325x28 with cooling from the factory so it does a decent job with having the single sliders. But I ditched mine for a fixed solution. The slider set up becomes more of a pain as the calipers age. I have better pad wear, moved my bias a bit rearward(a good thing) and have great pedal feel.

[@jacobwoolley2114]

Seems like pete is spending waaaay too much time n money on a BMW to make it be like the clearly superior Nissan...

[@steifan]

Regarding studs or bolts I think the Germans just went cheapo in the manufacturing with fewer pressing machines. I mean, if you you're going to screw on something, why press it on first? Just reduce one step. And never mind the poor consumers ;)