Your Kemper Amp is now Obsolete - Don't Waste Your Money!

[@Warlock_UK]

Amplitube 5 is reduced to 50 Euros from 300 at the moment. Very, very tempted, if that's a legit price and not a faux-sale.

[@Warlock_UK]

I just bought it, along with the first SVX add on pack; turns out I had some discount points on my account and you can use them for 30% of the purchase - Amplitube 5 for £32 and the Bass SVX pack for £20 after points.

[@bassprofishe1549]

@@Warlock_UK I've got amplitube 3 and it's greaaat

[@brianvillage5]

If you think amplitube 3 is great you’ll be blown away with 5.

[@Fanafranky]

Also ToneX SE is the same price right now. Honestly unless the captures in MAX are actually better than the best user captures (which I doubt), that's all I need!

[@Gizmo-st1ky]

I love amplitube 5! Buy it! You’ll love it

[@nickwinkler8231]

I can't take this video seriously when it's sponsored by IK Multimedia who own Tonex.

[@chrismarcyy]

now lets see how many "golden ears" are going to say that they always knew you tone lately was software.

[@kimseniorb]

glenns tones are always crap either way

[@ChaoticArtemis]

@@kimseniorb how do you figure? They sound fucking great to me

[@seancorker5815]

Glenn whinges on about lack of creativity while demonstrating how to get generic metal tones on the cheap. Go figure

[@bikeman1x11]

its just downtuned sludge- 80 s and hair metal actually can hear the tone

[@cycomiles4225]

@@seancorker5815 Its easy to do and fast enough for a KZbin video.

[@paulanderson771]

The software amps have been on point for several years now! The part that doesn't get talked about is the startup cost of getting decent monitors, a good interface, and what to do in lag situations. Obviously, KZbinrs have been on good recording gear long enough they don't even think about what someone switching from an Amp setup to a Software AmpSim has to go through to get it sounding good.

[@florisvanlingen]

If you already own a decent laptop or pc it's not that expensive. Starter setup costst between 300-500 dollars for an audio interface and studiomonitors. Most people who record already own those.

[@dreammachine86]

Yeah I think for my own software amp setup - AmpliTube 5 - it's let down by the fact that I just have PC speakers. Decent speakers at that but they are a 2.1 set, and I don't think that crossover between the satellites and subwoofer does any favours in trying to reproduce the sound of a guitar cab. I certainly don't get the resonance and feel I would be expecting from a real amp. I reckon a decent set of studio monitors would make a big difference but haven't decided on which ones to get yet - I'm living in an apartment with neighbours so don't need to get anything too big/powerful.

[@Gbhbbgvsbnjhhdchhb]

Newsflash the Kemper is not dead..this guy is paid by Tonex to say that. Kemper are constantly improving and when you buy a Kemper you join a community. This guy runs down a lot of perfectly good technology and doesn’t really have the gravitas or ears to give his “expert” advice. There are a few of these self-proclaimed experts who rarely venture out of their basements

[@stephanelemey]

Kemper is not dead. The most important is how you use your stuff. And fingers ! Great result with my old fractal or deluxe.

[@IndyRockStar]

i had trade a PRS S2 guitar for a Gibson Flying V. Sounded great. But I couldn't get used to holding a V type guitar. Sold it. Bought a Gibson Explorer. Love it!

[@TheMichaelseymour]

that sounded amazing !!! Sad part for me - is in days of yore ...you had to fight to get a sound like this .....in the next few years EVERYONE will sound like this - and the specialness will be diminished (kinda like when CGI first came around - and now we dont even notice it ) - just a thought

[@Hostile_Design]

People are so damn fuzzy about progress as soon as they slapped some cash down on a piece of gear. I bought a used Kemper, I still love it and it's sufficient for my needs. There is also something to be said for the content an established piece of gear already has. But, do I believe a unit that is a decade newer has it beat in terms of quality and usability? Absolutely. Is getting rid of the unit altogether a plus if you are going to do it all digitally anyway? It sure is. I think this sim sounds great. Of course, I have now taken that Kemper to a few gigs, hooked it up to the cabs already standing there, and bam, done. That is a thing the plugin can't do. At least not without lugging a laptop along, which I despite my love for computers, is something I wouldn't want to do.

[@Shamoomusic]

Great stuff Glenn! I've been really digging the AXE I/O interface that IK has. It has built in re-amp output, tuner, etc. The best part was it came Amplitube. It really felt like buying this great software and they threw in this really neat Itallian interface that works fucking great. I know it's marketed for guitar players, but it's also a hidden gem with recording vocals too. Together those tools paired together have really helped a lot with learning and overall improvement over the last year. Amplitube's also a hell of a lot of fun to fiddle around and experiment. Damn I really wish I had access to something like this a decade ago. It's amazing how far technology has come. Would really love to possibly see some more Amplitube stuff down the road. You explain things better than those other assholes, and you really help us understand better! Thank you sir for everything you do! Cheers from Pennsylvania!

[@sergebraida5622]

I bought that interface during the earlier days of the covid pandemic because it came with amplitube and I wanted to learn how to record my guitar on my computer. I still have the AXE I/O but I mainly use a Behringer Uphoria interface since it's a little simpler. Still love and use amplitube every time I play.

[@jasonprivately1764]

I am not saying vste and plug ins have no space in a mix. However chugging your laptop or pc to a gig for the foh to fck up is a condition I am not willing to suffer through. Nothing beats having your foh or other lighting guy jack the power plug while stepping over it to fetch his beer. And while booting have it generate a bsod. Ill stick to my amp and backups while the foh can mic it

[@StellarWorks2023]

Awesome stuff man, your glee is infectious heh heh

[@kennethmeeker6369]

There all so close even bias2 is great it’s definitely the way to go , I’ve got the kemper stage but you don’t need it anymore for sure .

[@charlesrocks]

Oh no! It’s fuckin over Kemper bros.

[@coryfriesen]

Awesome video Glen!

[@ericctheartofnoise8613]

Thank you Sir for the IR.

[@SpectreSoundStudios]

You’re very welcome!

[@G-Nation]

Since grabbing this maybe a year or two ago, whenever the ToneX pre-order with Amplitube came out, more or less haven't touched my amps. The software is as good as Glenn states, and it's made the workflow far too easy these days. Highly recommend it, fellas.

[@TrevyTrev-andTheFunkyPets]

I’m a simple man , my Spark works fine . Haha. Seriously, I’ve been wanting to switch to interface will follow your advice.

[@strathound]

This is great stuff. But I have a question .... as I watch this, it got me thinking ... I already have a new Mac Mini in my PA rig. My plan was to use the Mac to run Logic Pro and do stuff like backing tracks at my shows. But now I'm thinking ... holy F, what if I just added a quality audio interface and used this as a home built Kemper Profiler? I mean, if you can run all that software on there that you demo in this video, that would be possible right? Is that where this is going? No need for pedals or modelers anymore? All you need is a PC or Mac on stage and an audio interface? If so, I would LOVE to see a video on how to do that in a live rig.

[@cfh13]

I need to upgrade my computer first before buying anymore software. Running reaper on my laptop and i get ugly glitchy sounds if I'm playing and drag anything on screen and sometimes just randomly while playing. CPU usage isn't high at all, settings & levels are set properly. Laptops 10 or so years old so i plan to get a desktop I can upgrade if need be.

[@restojon1]

I took the plunge into sims just before AT5 came out, absolutely fantastic and enjoyable learning experience on AT4. When 5 came out I hit a massive brick wall as my old i5 laptop didn't have the requisite graphics card so I can't run the software! What a PITA! Lol. Can I justify buying a new laptop purely to run AT5? And get it past domestic management??? If you don't hear back from me in 3 days send a search party 😆

[@Leppits]

Can't wait for Gwens Studio Amps Capture selection to load into this

[@uralb]

I totally dig this channel and both the entertainment as well as the priceless tips and information you are providing - I've learned and laughed a lot since I discovered your show a few months ago. Apropos priceless and the subject of this episode: I just stumbled over a handful of remarkably simple but (at least to my ears) pretty great sounding free plugins and ended up experimenting with a plugin-chain consisting of Analog Obsession PEDALz --> AXP Softamp PSA --> Analog Obsession KABIN. Do you know these, and if so, what do you think of the plugins and combining them this way? IMHO this is a simple all-in-one solution providing almost any sound imaginable at an astonishing quality level without having to handle dozens of parameters and IR Cabs nor spending any money at all. Or is it only a naive noob's dream of cheating the system? 🙃 (I mean, I was on the verge of insanity with around 100 plugins from bx_rockrack to Waves GTR3 until I found and tried these three easy to handle freeware plugins)...

[@toddmcmurray222]

Any love for our fellow Canadian Mike Fortin and his products?

Please tell me, which microphone you are using in this video? And windscreen? TY

[@ileutur6863]

IKs overly complicated license system makes me not want to use any of their software

[@christophergalat8932]

It's been forever since I tried software based modeling. The problem I always had was latency. Is that still an issue?

[@buddyslowhand7647]

Kemper isn't obsolete. It's one of the most sustainable enduring pieces of technology ever made. And it evolves... until there will be a new kemper-hardware lasting for many many years. Until then, you have a top notch sounding versatile sturdy amp. If you're the guy that can only play with 4 parallel amp and effect chains, and can't live with a gazillion of possibilities... it's not for you. But the best guitarists generally don't need more than a 2 channel amp and a guitar. Maybe metal is different... don't listen very often to this. Maybe you feel week with only 2 fullstacks turned up to eleven... 😀

[@matt_nyc_audioengineer]

Can't find the link to the IR's! Am I missing something here? I'm sure I can go back to an older video but just thought I would mention it.

[@justinvzu01]

I'm looking to get a modeller currently. Should I get a Kemper power head, or a quad cortex to run into my pre mt15 amp? I'm currently running a head rush pedalboard into a prs mt15 into a Harley Benton v212 vintage. Perhaps I can run the IK multimedia Io interface with amplitude back into my amp to use it as an effects unit? I'd get the interface, amplitude 5 max and tonex max for €450.

[@mikederr1882]

Great honest review Glenn.Well done!

[@TMFJ983]

Yo Glenn , is UHF good for wireless or digital ? Thanks

[@bertimos76]

Can you take that on the road?

[@mikeskis7887]

Glenn , do this with a spider for the shits and giggles lol

[@SingularityMedia]

Positive Grid BIAS. You are welcome.

[@chrisorrell3066]

Ok this might be petty lol but it’s a cool and convenient technology but I like the visual of having a nice bad ass tube amp behind me. To me and this is my opinion there is just something missing with this stuff. It’s kinda taking away from the total experience I think. Maybe I’m just old dunno lol but when I go to a live show I still love seeing huge amps and cabs behind the band. Like I said maybe I’m just old lol good video as always glen love your content!!

[@sobasage1958]

*sigh* Another amp sim with overly buzzy distortion in the high end that's bound to create a whole lot of aliasing. Like we needed more of that. Thanks, but no thanks.

[@leightnite3056]

Sounds fantastic!

[@Group_Anonymous]

I just use Logic Pro stock plugins

[@Herrierecordsinc]

Ever tried the tone capture feature in a Mooer Preamp Live or GE300?

[@SpectreSoundStudios]

Here’s my video on the Mooer kzbin.info/www/bejne/aX3Mm2eJfpmtm6M

[@carlossalazar4508]

Tone is in the diodes!!! 😂😂😂

[@djabthrash]

Most Kemper users rarely or even never use the profiling function, so Kemper is fine.

[@milankotevski1663]

Lol. The same could be said about Tonex users. You have no point.

[@djabthrash]

@@milankotevski1663 My point makes sense because what Glenn is saying in this video is that the Tonex is a better profiler than the Kemper, and THAT makes the Kemper obsolete. Which is igroring the fact that most Kemper users use existing profiles, and like to have a small foot-print light-weight thing that they can bring around and have a consistent array of tones with, and the Kemper is perfect for that. Nb :I don't even own or care about the Kemper, but i like honesty :)

[@Wizzerman95]

Sounds digital to me…yeah right! Software is the only I could do this. It’s my hobby so I can’t justify putting thousands and thousands into gear and I don’t live in a household that appreciates metal like I do. I also don’t gig so having a Kemper or Quad Cortex doesn’t make sense for me. I have Neural DSP plug-ins which are on the pricier side but sound great…but if Amplitube 5 is on sale for only $50 I might need to get that!

[@Mrlultime]

A break in speaker test would be great ! As usual, audiophiles say the wildest bullshit on the subject but no one bothers to check. I have actually searched for some scientific papers on that phenomenon and found nothing. I studied acoustics though and my teacher at the time said it was pretty much a myth. As for my own limited testing, I have found no difference whatsoever after blasting sound through a speaker, as recommended by most audiophiles. Break in could exist but would most likely happen at the factory during quality control and last for about a second. My theory is that some manufacturers give credit to this myth because, as customers' ears get used to the speakers they just bought, they are less likely to return a product. Testing this is actually not that easy, because if the speaker or the mic moves even less than a millimetre it could have a more significant effect on the result than what you're trying to measure.

[@mwright80]

So what you're saying is I can buy a used Kemper for $375?

[@falluz]

Kemper is still great because it’s been around for years and as a result has MILLIONS of different profiles you can use, although this can be extremely overwhelming and overkill considering I just stick to the same handful of profiles. It is extremely impressive how great the digital market is becoming though. Definitely tying to pick up a QC, love the NDSP plugins but I love hardware more

[@neoconnor4395]

Careful - Quad Cortex doesnt run its own plugins yet.

[@WarrenPostma]

Kempers are still a staple for live rigs, touring and gigging pros.

[@kauko8124]

Kemper still best for me. Great that every tool out there finds its users, will keep them developing and innovating.

[@falluz]

@@neoconnor4395 wonder when they’re gonna add that feature; was one of the biggest selling points when it was announced and we still don’t have it. Oh well, still a great device regardless

[@neoconnor4395]

@@falluz Yeah, but I almost feel like on principal alone I shouldn't buy it

[@thatsameenergy]

It's not that the Kemper is dead, it's that it's no longer the end all, be all for captured tones in the studio. Kempers are still great for live use if you're not trying to do a laptop set up (which can be complicated for some). But the ToneX is a great tool for recording.

[@florisvanlingen]

Did they not leak a 500 dollar toneX hardware unit?

[@thatsameenergy]

@@florisvanlingen the ToneX hardware is just for capturing amps in the studio. It's not like a Kemper. Unless, however, they are releasing something.

[@AlexanderStemkowski]

Who cares? Vai has been using Carvin almost exclusively for decades.

[@onoesmurlocs]

@@florisvanlingen yeah I saw that some where too.

[@noompsieOG]

Yeah my mate who plays guitar for blklst just takes his kemper on tour and uses the house speakers so no need to take cabs and and amps and heads etc he reckons it’s a god send

[@anticlocktower]

I fully accept that analog / digital gear is equivalent as far as the final production is concerned. The only thing left to say is - I like my tube amp, the positive clicking of the switches, tactile response to tweaks and the simple immediacy of plugging in and turning it up in a room... I like it!

[@XXIII_89]

Total clickbait title. This video has nothing to do with the Kemper. Let's see Glenn take this set up to a different venue every night.

[@NessMeister]

Well, with the ToneX pedal he could.

[@DaveDurango]

this aged well

[@algorithm007ify]

TOTALLY WRONG...Kemper still has the best ecosystem, especially with the Kemper Kabinet... it's the best of FRFR and "amp in the room"....and don't forget the thousands of professional 'A-Grade' profiles. Kemper is still the king.

[@RealHomeRecording]

Clickbait titles/thumbnails are a must these days.

[@DudeMcGuybro]

Yeah, I've been using Guitar Rig 5 as my practice amp for roughly.... two years. The amount of amp sims, cab sims, effect sims I have at my fingertips for a few hundred sounds way better than any amp I've played for several hundred more. Used it on tons of recordings, no one could ever tell it was a "fake amp" Edit: if amplitube is reduced to 50 bucks and you don't already have something to use, grab it! You won't regret it.

[@BIGpony777]

un my opinion guitar rig 5 by itself does not sound real at all- i like to use it for wacky experimental effects but i rarely run my guitar through it and if i were to id use a separate IR plugin- guitar rig and thu are over rated i hope this new amp sim software is okay

[@DimeDCSGO]

Trust me, once you upgrade and play on something that sounds a bit better, you'll hear the difference 😉

[@bc454irocz89]

Guitar Rig 5 is over a decade old. I like THU much better. Just pirate it

[@martianmurray]

Whoa a late video!

[@bkbinj6320]

It was probably set to go live at midnight Windsor time.

[@Dave-Rough-Diamond-Dunn]

3.30 in the afternoon here, perfect timing for me! 😁

[@Schatje79]

Those sponsorships always seem to hit different! lol

[@moskitoh2651]

Another guy, who doesn't understand Kemper is an all integrated standalone solution. Who wants a ToneX and waste money into additional pedals? Your choice! Who wants to rely on a computer e.g. for capture and need lot of time? Ok, if you really... But this thing does not replace a Kemper at all!

[@nickx1754]

Man, those are some killer tones! There's some good constructive criticism here as well. Hopefully IK takes those points into consideration. Technology...what a time to be alive.

[@michaelsnydermusic]

Agreed! What always surprises me is how tech innovation like this is profitable. Most people I’ve known who play guitar never recorded or played shows. They just plug in and play. I’ve always wondered what the guitar industry is worth and if higher percentages of people are playing compared to decades past. I guess so since it’s so much easier to learn with KZbin and it’s more affordable to sound good. The thing is, tech like this is really single purpose. It’s not like this can be used for anything else like say a military tech that can be applied to civilian use. Just a thought.

[@diaryofanaxeman539]

Yup, gear snobs.... those Kempers are now over glorified " Toasters " . Just kidding, if you keep them, they're still killer tone machines, like a zeroed in Digitech 2112 SGS, ADA MP-1 or MP-2, Behringer V Amp Pro or Eleven Rack . In about three years, those Kempers are going to be selling for $ 500.00 US , just like Eleven Racks .

[@N8TheGr8M8]

I hope so, Kempers are great for live performances

[@ironblast5]

Eleven racks are selling for $200 all day now

[@algorithm007ify]

There is nothing close to the Kemper Kabinet which merges the best of FRFR and 'amp in the room' together. Kemper has the best ecosystem.

[@DerDurchschnittsmusiker]

I do love my Kemper and Amplitube is a great software, but I hate IK Multimedia, because how they license system works. Because you can't deactivate old licenses easily, I bought their Orchestral VSTi a few years back and now I can't use it, because I had a few hardware failures, I needed to reinstall that software a few times and like that no more licenses. That's why the hardware like a Kemper or a Quad Kortex is better in my opinion.

[@iEddiez]

Having only had my Kemper for a year or so (I know late to the game), I wouldn't have wanted to wait for this. I like the idea of being able to do everything from the unit without a PC/Laptop. I think people who shit on Kempers for being too complex just can't be bothered to read the manual or sit with it for an hour or so. I can however appreciate the tones coming from Amplitube.

[@johnpauldeguzman823]

Did I just watch an ad for amplitude flaming Kemper?

[@MikeSingSing]

Glenn, bless you for that V30 IR! I'm running it on my Torpedo X and just for shits and giggles I've connected an Orange Crush Mini to it. Sounds freakin huge. Just goes to show that a good IR/speaker does a lot of the heavy lifting when it comes to guitar tone.

[@kencreten7308]

Fookin' clickbate! How dare you! You cannot injure me with your petty video title! I love, my Kemper. I've had it for 7 years and it sounds fantastic.... OK, I have like two main sounds. BUT! seriously, I flip through profiles a lot. This is my amp. It sounds, awesome. For me it's my ultimate sound whittling tool. But, when asked I tell people, look at the Neural Cortex. Personally, I was never satisfied with Amplitube. But I've gotten Neural plugins that are awesome. But my Kemper, can be pried from my cold dead hands. So shame on you! I gave you a like anyway.

[@natrixxvision6997]

It seems to me that this is strictly for use in the studio. Unless I missed something there’s no hardware to take these sounds to a gig. That’s where the Kemper comes in. I understand Glenn. You’re a studio guy so that’s what you’re after more than anything. But the Kemper isn’t completely obsolete just yet.

[@maxminimus6198]

Agreed ...not even close.

[@CaliLuke]

They have a pedal format device, it's very good.

[@natrixxvision6997]

@@CaliLuke I thought that was only for use in conjunction with the amp though.

[@christebo7305]

Fed to the PA system, obviously.

[@J50-q4p]

A kemper is designed for a totally different end user and use case than someone using amplitube. I’m surprised you don’t know better. Or are just being dishonest for controversial clicks. Disappointing. And for the record I don’t even own a kemper but can still smell BS

[@Aaron_French]

Haven't felt a compulsion to bin my Kemper after watching this, although this also sounds awesome. I love using the kemper live and plugged into a real cab it is killer.

[@CreativeMindsAudio]

Nice! I haven’t used the capture on amplitube 5. I was shocked at how high quality it was when i tried it. I usually use the brainworx stuff and it’s great and does the job. But the freedom and workflow for messing around with amplitube it is great, but i find myself with option paralysis with how many tone options things like amplitube and bias fx haha. It is fun to play with them though. At the end of the day if you get good tone for the song and the song is great, how you got there doesn’t really matter

[@thomastucker5686]

I ask myself, what tone are you looking for then start with an amp that I think fits that sound. Ad some pedals towards the tone I'm after and see how it goes. It is a fantastic experiment in crafting tone.

[@CreativeMindsAudio]

@@thomastucker5686 yup exactly, that's why i like brainworx cause it sounds great and feels just like the real thing control wise. where as stuff like amplitube and bias are more like an approximation that sounds like it, but manipulating it doesn't feel the same as the real thing so it feels weird. but it can get you where you need to go if you aren't aware of how it should sound or the real thing.

[@thomastucker5686]

@@CreativeMindsAudio I love playing through tube amps and recording them. It's just not always practical and I am noticing, my amplitube tracks sound fantastic in a mix.

[@sillyness3456]

Mendel did a great video comparing his 5150-III rig to a Kemper profile, a QC capture and a Tonex capture. All three captures had their quirks, but sounded great. I don’t see how any of these makes another obsolete, they are different flavors.

[@acheleg]

I think he meant better, as in convenience. Instead of putting all his physical amps into a kemper, then to pc- he could now emulate all his amps in the computer. Not as convenient for gigs, but much more convenient, in the studio

[@chaptermasterpedrokantor1623]

@@acheleg Also as in click bait, as Glenn is not above rage baiting certain groups within the guitar community.

[@jfo3000]

@@chaptermasterpedrokantor1623 This

[@cycomiles4225]

@@chaptermasterpedrokantor1623 Its smart bussiness.

[@mrcoatsworth429]

Well, tonex is a lot more affordable.

[@notalkguitarampplug-insrev784]

At the studio we switched on ToneX and use the AxefxIII for effects. The best of two digital world today!!! We sold our 7 kempers in just 2 months. That’s the beauty of guitar players community, you can sell at nearly the retail price old outdated products haha

[@Kumacidefpv]

Saying the Kemper is dead is like saying the Marshall jcm800 is dead. It’s just another amp. I still use mine.

[@JahmezFox]

Lel strong disagree that this amp sim is as good as the real thing, also do you think that the reason you couldn’t hear much of a difference between those pickups is because you’ve been using an amp sim for the last few months? JS

[@martyshwaartz971]

Really? I'd make the argument that digital makes it easier to hear differences between guitars. Or at least that's my experiences using digital vs. an actual amp.

[@JahmezFox]

@@martyshwaartz971 honestly I’ve found the opposite, whether it’s a modelling amp or an amp sim I find the differences between pickups are usually more pronounced through a full tube amp than a digital rig, maybe it depends on the amp though

[@martyshwaartz971]

​@@JahmezFox Interesting, I wonder what the differences are? My thinking was that digital rigs cut a lot of the feedback and noise that muddies up my higher gain sounds. To be fair though, it could also be the additional control, that low cut can be quite powerful. Maybe I just need a pedalboard of equalisers:hah

[@JahmezFox]

@@martyshwaartz971 maybe man, I have a pretty high gain tone but I usually set the gain at about 10-11 o’clock, I also just have ridiculous amounts of gain on tap though but maybe that’s where the difference is coming in 😬 pedalboard of all EQ’s would be interesting but I feel like you’d probably run out of usable and distinct tone combinations after 3 or 4, if you went up to 8 though you could blend the EQ’s 🤔

[@TaylorDanley]

I’m really glad this is getting more exposure because it’s pretty amazing what this software can do. The UI could use a revamp, it’s not as elegant as something like neural or stl, but still… freaking awesome piece of software.

[@SpectreSoundStudios]

Agreed!

[@gchros9292]

Amplitude sounds like crap to me. Brittle and harsh. Is the capture technology much better sounding?

[@johnnyrazor4365]

IK Multimedia makes some great stuff. I’d really love to see you review their new iLoud Precision speakers.

[@TheArtofGuitar]

I went through my Kemper phase. It worked great except once the jack came out of the back of the switcher pedal and I had to reboot the whole thing during a song. Came back on just in time for the solo. Between that and not being able to adjust my effects easily in real time, I just went back to pedals and tube amps.

Pedals are the best solution and sound organic 😊

[@picksalot1]

ToneX is producing excellent captures. One of the coolest things is that being Software, we can expect rapid improvements to the already great results. Being able to model and capture the sound of vintage gear has been a proving ground for how good a technology is. Recreating a sound is a useful achievement, but what interests me most is the ability to imagine a unique Amp, Cab, Speakers, Mic, effect, etc. and easily create it via Software.

[@Rhuggins]

I wank IK to start using this technology to make EQs and and compressors like acustica audio

[@seancorker5815]

This is exactly how I use the Kemper - with the added advantage of I can use it live.

[@tobins6800]

That is what I have been waiting for as well. Many of the lesser expensive units had original models, most sounded like crap. What would be cool is being able to mess with the parameters used in the programming of the pieces. Maybe some visual tools that would.convert that to code that could be compiled into usable items. The cool thing about the modellers is that they can be lugged around for live use, yeah laptops can done as well. At the cost of complexity and more than a few failure points added. The 11 11 11 purportedly does have an original sound to it, or the ability to. Challenge is to get a capture of it and use it on a modeller. A little more complex than I want to attempt even with hand holding at this moment in time. Laziness more than capabilities.

[@spyware1100]

"We can expect rapid improvements " Just don't expect that anytime soon. Amplitube still uses the same methods to model their stuff like 10 years ago. They claim they rewrote algorythms , but i seriously doubt that. Reskin and sell. That's exactly what everyone does on the market (think about helix native and metallurgy series. Same (2015) engine)

[@ikmultimedia]

@@spyware1100 That is not correct. We rebuilt AmpIiTube 5, even redoing the existing amps. We also added VIR technology where there are 600+ IRs per speaker captured precisely (there's a video showing the technology at work), and much more.

[@algorithm007ify]

Liquid Profiling makes Kemper the BEST OPTION for modelling/profiling..so NO, IT'S FAR FROM OBSOLETE NOW....

[@SpectreSoundStudios]

Oh you mean that thing that’s NOT RELEASED?

[@InsomniacMatt]

As I'm watching this, I'm thinking about how many guitarists tend to forget about overdrive pedals, and how much they can help tighten up a high gain rhythm sound.

[@hawshimagical]

sounds better without them IMO

[@cordero6960]

its kinda depend on your amp too, and i got a cheap amp but also im like distortion pedal too and i have an OD too

[@nethbt]

I only use them as a boost (Gain at zero to a quarter turn) then I use the Amp gain to suit my taste, then again some amps really need a pedal gain crank like most of the Marshalls

[@jesusgavemeaids]

@@nethbt ugh.... Marshall sucks. They sound good... but never again.

[@thehatemachinestl]

Never going to beat Kempers free and consistent updates.

[@disco4535]

Can't imagine how good all this will be in another 5 o 10 years. Its already amazing

[@Fanafranky]

It's already miles ahead of 3 years ago! We've had Tonehub, Quad Cortex, now this... the bar is raised, and it's probably far from over

[@gaboxd4407]

Im sure in 5 to 10 years digital amps will be so good they will sound better than original tube amps. More harmonics, better definition and a 1000 times more practical

[@itskevinbutler]

5-10 years is one model iteration 😛

[@CaNTBREaKCHRiS]

Axe FX III is more than enough for me, have never felt the need to make my own captures thus have no use for anything like this or a kemper or quad cortex, cool that the capability is possible via software though for those that want or need it. 😎

[@guitartues]

I still think the simplicity and no need for tweaking / fiddeling into the profiles the Kemper makes is what makes it a superior experience to me. Also stuff like reamping with the digital I/O is so easy, that I almost never reach for amp sims.

[@RithanVijay]

What a title, had to check it out immediately 😅 Could not help comment since I was here first! 😊

[@upStomp]

I swear by IK's stuff, and ToneX has been no exception. They just need to release a useful pedal option for live performance that doesn't involve tooling around with a laptop or tablet.

[@telejas]

Been a Tube amp snob for the better part of 30 years (Dr. Z. Morgan, BadCat, Mesa, ect....). Recently, last year, had to get a direct option for some small gigs and casino gigs that don't allow amps on stage. Tried a Helix, Headrush, PodGo, and finally settled on the Boss GX-100. About 4 months ago, I added the TONEX pedal.... I just didn't bond with the TONEX one bit. I even bought several profiles, but didn't like them. On a whim, I traded something for a Kemper Stage....HOLY COW! The Kemper may be 12 or 13 years old now, but the sounds I wanted were right there along with all the FX I could possibly want. I've purchased a few professional profiles and loved them all....Not sure what is different, but I guess that's why there are so many different options out today: Kemper, TONEX, Fractal, Helix, Boss, Headrush, ect.... I like Vox better than Fender, you like Fender better.... I like Kemper better, you like TONEX better.... All tools of the trade, just find what works best for you.

[@Bobby_Uterus]

But what if you forget your laptop?

[@ababilashari9970]

this is a metal PRODUCTION channel, jog on

[@offtherealm5438]

I've just let my Amplitube license collect dust...in fact, I don't even have it installed on my new PC.....I was very disappointed with last couple versions and the clunky DAW which always got in the way. I've learned to hate, and ignore anything from IK Multimedia. >>>>> just looked up Amplitube 5 and they still have the stupid built in DAW within the plugin.....nope. Right now I'll stick with EZMIX2 and STL Tonehub. Yes....I realize this video was focusing on Tonex, have at it people! Just not for me.

[@leidusleidus7190]

I'm gonna have to disagree with you here. The Kemper isn't dead and is still a phenomenal piece of gear. Different strokes for different folks. You still get to an incredible end result regardless of Tone X, AxeFX, Helix, Kemper, Plugins, etc

[@justinTime077]

Yeah you can, but people that lump them all together as you have don’t seem to perceive the feel phenomenon that real tubes, Fractal and Tonex have, and the rest don’t as of today. For most guitar players that have experienced real expensive tube amps IRL there’s an X factor between you and the amp that is hard to catch. Even fractal is slightly missing it, but closer. I am deciding whether tonex has it more still. I think it just might. AI is capable of amazing shit.

[@leidusleidus7190]

@@justinTime077 I've played and owned expensive tube amps. I won't go back. Tube amps belong in the studio. These belong on stage. I said what I said and I meant what I meant.

[@adamluck6439]

Kemper is finished

[@leidusleidus7190]

@@adamluck6439 fat chance. Have you checked out any of the STL Tones profiles? Those are nuts

[@justinTime077]

@@adamluck6439 yeah I am finding that Tonex sounds and feels legit, and that’s how Fractal won me over to modeling. Tonex doesn’t make you stress and labor over getting the weird frequencies out of the tone. It sounds legit through a power amp and guitar cab or monitors.

[@soundman1402]

If that ENGL cab is closed-back, check to make sure you securely mounted the speakers completely flush to the baffle of the cabinet. If there's any significant air leak, you'll lose low end and your speaker will sound more tubby. Speakers do change their sound a bit as they break in, but usually the difference isn't that dramatic. I doubt you warped the baskets. I suppose anything is possible, but a warped basket will misalign the voice coil in the magnet gap, and you'd probably get some very buzzy distortion from the voice coil rubbing on the gap instead of moving freely. Try playing a clean, low-frequency sine wave (100 Hz or so, somewhere in the range of your speaker). Start with the volume low and then turn it up. If it gets buzzy at moderate volumes, you have a warped cone/basket.

[@ziggy4465]

I have been using AmpliTube for all my effects for about ten years now and I’ve never been disappointed. The various built-in amp emulators are amazing. To be able to capture and model physical amps is just an added bonus.

[@plk173]

most slept on tool, i remember watching him dunk sims, still using amplitube 3 and just using a better cab emulation and now that its in a nice package suddenly inbox tone dont suck but when we said for 10 years now its fine already amp heads couldnt stfu how you cant make soft that good

[@livepulse_original]

I wonder when there will be a “Tone X is dead” video. Since Kemper is the daddy of them all. I don’t think anything will replace the Kemper, we just build on it. In the end you use what works for you. It’s not a competition, it’s made into a competition. It’s all about what comes out of your fingers. Too bad about the clickbait title, being a sponsored video makes it even worse.

[@rossbalch]

The training time depends on your GPU, I do advanced training on my captures and it takes about 30 minutes to train. I have a nvidia GPU though. I've heard non nvidia GPUs take a lot longer.

[@joejohnson8966]

WhicH GPU if you don't mind me asking?

[@rossbalch]

@@joejohnson8966 I'm just running a 2070 nothing special.

[@joejohnson8966]

@@rossbalch Thank you for answering. Hope it gets even faster when I buy a new NVIDIA graphics card.

[@easyriderm13]

Kemper isn’t obsolete. My opinion, it still gives you the best snapshots. In fact, 95% of the time, they sound better than the source. Amplitude, Tonex, even ax effects, in instances, don’t sound the same as the source, and it seems like the results need to be tweaked a bit to hit the mark. They all sound great, but we are not talking apples and apples, apples and grapes, or whatever. We’re talking gold bricks and gold bricks. Now, got the average player, all this is great news. Lastly, don’t forget, we are talking, not the quality of the hardware or software. In the end, the conversation is about the validity of amps and cabs.

[@gregfender]

I still love my Kemper and it was one of the best purchases I've ever made back in 2014. Now that it's 2023, I'm still glad that I bought it, it's great to have a tone box that isn't in my computer, but I'm not sure that I'd be willing to fork out the money for it today if I didn't already own it. Aside from it being independent from my computer and having the best tuner I've ever used, there really isn't any advantage to owning one unless you play live.

[@somethingelsedoesmatter]

I'm happy with my HeadRush at this point in time, but it's cool to see improvements in modelling all over the place. I don't use PC or PC software for stuff like this (music production in general), but I see the appeal of that. I just prefer hands-on hardware that isn't gonna crash on me, is portable, resellable/tradable, etc.

[@alexandertucciarone7149]

Speaking of crashing I was gigging a headrush mid of last year and it died on me halfway through the set went to get warranty and took them 2 months to get it back to me. Ended up selling the unit and got some money back. The modeling was nothing like what’s from kemper or axe fx though

[@junkfoodeater]

Very happy with my HR to, been working flawless for about 6 months now. I put the neural dsp IR's in it and many other custom profiles, pretty much got a quad cortex for a lot less money. How it is when trying to make your own profiles from your own gear etc i dunno about.

[@brianvillage5]

I traded a couple heads and 1x12 cabs for a headrush and it bricked on me within two days. They sent me a new one and I was digging it. I went to universal audio and their amp sims are great. I have amplitube and it’s pretty awesome. But if I were playing out I’d probably want a rig that doesn’t involve a computer.

[@somethingelsedoesmatter]

Yeah, HeadRush isn't a profiler, so I know it's not in the same league as these things. I don't know how good all the models are; I mostly am using the JC-120 and a Marshall and they sound good to me. But I've always been a solid state user and relied on modellers for my recording purposes (POD 2.0 > RP-355 > Mustang V V2 > MX5). Believe me, if I had the money, I'd be running something much more expensive (and I'd be playing a vintage Fender Jazzmaster rather than a Classic Vibe).

[@Molotov_Milkshake]

There's nothing more portable than a good laptop frankly.

[@lespaul667]

How’s the latency? To use it live you’d need a tablet and interface. Glen, you should put a 1983 Marshall 2204 in there and complete the family. ;)

[@ChristianMoses]

Just got ToneX a few weeks ago and it's unbelievable. I did a full capture of my actual rig and it's literally identical sounding. You can't tweak settings the way you can with a real rig, but that's almost better when you're trying to get work done. No distractions. I don't even have their hardware, just a Radial passive reamp box.

[@krameree1969]

Sponsored by IK Media, using ToneX and of course " Your Kemper Amp is now Obsolete - Don't Waste Your Money!" You may as well had written "Buy IK Media and dont buy other poduct name here as they suck" caveat "until I get another sponsor who will pay me more"

[@s.a.m.recordingstudios]

The Kemper has been my go to for 3+ years now. Prob not going to change it up anytime soon, but the ToneX sounds are just as good from what I can tell.

[@mattsonbj]

IMHO the bass drum could be mixed higher, as well as the cymbals, snare was much louder than the rest of the kit. but of course I'm listening on AudioTechnica MT50 headphones

[@iceWaterProductions1]

All you had to ask yourself was “do you see this piece of crap plastic box working as along as your 1965 Fender blackface Bassman”.