Spider-Man 3: Venom behind-the-scenes

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Robin Parrish

Robin Parrish

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@omarkarim2280
@omarkarim2280 6 жыл бұрын
I like the idea of Eddie Brock being the dark version of Peter
@warsthemarvel8608
@warsthemarvel8608 5 жыл бұрын
Omar Karim same
@Jaberz_21
@Jaberz_21 4 жыл бұрын
Eddie is just like peter but droven by selfishness
@d4c1vtn98
@d4c1vtn98 4 жыл бұрын
I mean that's the reason why venom looked like that in Spider-Man 3 he was supposed to be the opposite of Spider-Man
@charliemuskrat
@charliemuskrat 3 жыл бұрын
to this day wish they could have pulled it off
@supremedream1764
@supremedream1764 Жыл бұрын
And having Topher Grace as Eddie was perfect because he and Tobey look a like. If you think about it, it’s like Spidey is fighting with his evil clone.
@venomfan3412
@venomfan3412 13 жыл бұрын
Wow, Topher left the 70s for this? Very good choice, he made a great Venom!
@I_am_Dane_Youssef
@I_am_Dane_Youssef 12 жыл бұрын
The symbiote is like stem cells. They start out blank, but once they had latched onto Peter in his Spider-Suit, they had created an exact mold replica. It had taken on a life of it's own. And since Peter ripped it off in anger, the suit itself is vicious and vengeful. It draws it's strength from it's host and Eddie is more vengeful and ambitious than Peter.
@윤명석-y6y
@윤명석-y6y 7 жыл бұрын
Venom Outfit is extremely attractive in Sam Raimi's spider - man films.
@579-q7t
@579-q7t 6 жыл бұрын
Steel AB84Juju19 they planned to do a split and end the movie in the church where Eddie gets the symbiot and then Venom would be the main villain in the 4th movie But they didn't do it because Sony forced rami to put venom as the 3 and "Main villain" for Spider-Man 3 it's also sucks that venom was only for the last 20 minutes in the movie
@Berzerker1
@Berzerker1 5 жыл бұрын
Steel Juju19 What are you talking about? The movie succeed, making the most out of any Spider-Man movie, even to this day.
@Hipster_Doofuss
@Hipster_Doofuss 14 жыл бұрын
The problem with Spider-Man 3 is that it was basically a compromise. You can't compromise when you're making the closing part of a billion dollar franchise. Sandman was in there because Raimi wanted him, Venom was in there because the studio wanted him, and GG2 was in there because they'd been hinting at it forever. Either they should've filmed 2 movies together (like the Matrix sequels) to really flesh everything out, or 1 movie with Sandman. Venom & Topher are both too great for what they got.
@aybanpali
@aybanpali 9 жыл бұрын
So instead of going to Africa, Eric moved to New York, changed his name to Eddie Brock, and started dating another blonde.
@Mundo_do_Ray
@Mundo_do_Ray 8 жыл бұрын
dude dont tell me...i was pretty sad because of that haha i never watched the 8° season
@Dane_Youssef
@Dane_Youssef 5 жыл бұрын
Another UNNATURAL blonde.
@ElHayki
@ElHayki 4 жыл бұрын
Damn how did you know
@jasiekel86
@jasiekel86 15 жыл бұрын
I love Topher! I felt he was under-used in Spider-Man 3! I would have loved to have seen more of his character!
@bats70
@bats70 9 жыл бұрын
I wish people would stop bashing this movie. It has it's faults, and I will admit, I was disappointed with the fact that they crammed Venom in with very little screen time, but that was Sony's fault. Overall, this movie was awesome, I don't care what people say, even though I still prefer Spiderman 2 to Spiderman 3.
@novi493
@novi493 9 жыл бұрын
Couldn't have said it any better. I feel the same
@wilhelmtheconquerer6214
@wilhelmtheconquerer6214 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed! It's good enough, but not on the level of greatness that 1 and 2 are. I really wish Avi Arad wouldn't have been on the creative team and that Sony would've given Sam Rami freedom to do whatever he wanted with the series after not only one, but TWO great entries
@totterdell
@totterdell 3 жыл бұрын
Couldn't of said it any better mate but Spiderman 2 is definitely the peak that movie was amazing
@johncarlodimaano7235
@johncarlodimaano7235 3 жыл бұрын
I agree, to me spider man 3 was an ok movie for me and the other two are amazing for it's writing and actions.
@Spitfiregirl01
@Spitfiregirl01 11 жыл бұрын
I think Topher did a great job love him!
@Hectorferjr2
@Hectorferjr2 12 жыл бұрын
I thought Topher Grace did a decent job playing the role of Eddie Brock JR. a.k.a. Venom. Plus Topher wanted to play Venom since he was a big fan of the comic-book character. Plus the visuals on Venom looked fantastic.
@colemanrowland3853
@colemanrowland3853 6 жыл бұрын
Hectorferjr2 me too
@colemanrowland3853
@colemanrowland3853 6 жыл бұрын
Escorpion Venenoso funk you
@jarred1k579
@jarred1k579 4 жыл бұрын
Quigle- Dorf Eddie Brock in the ultimate Spider-Man comics ain’t muscular either so they went the ultimate route with him
@IndigoCatalyst
@IndigoCatalyst 8 жыл бұрын
Mostof what Topher Grace - th actor who played Eddie Brock - said about his character, I did not see in the film. I feel a big flaw in Spiderman 3 was that there wasn't enough character development of some of the characters in Spiderman 3. Thus, the movie felt to just shift from one scene to the next to impress us more with the special effects. You know what: it was quite entertaining though, nonetheless. It's a good movie regardless.
@dorkasaurus9765
@dorkasaurus9765 8 жыл бұрын
Yeh i liked topher as venom. I wish they made the voice more "venom" like
@MachineFuckingHate
@MachineFuckingHate 6 жыл бұрын
Topher Grace was actually a big fan of Venom growing up, and he actually didn't want to play the role originally, because he didn't feel like he was right for the job. But I think his Brock was based more on the Ultimate Universe Brock, who wasn't like the classic Brock by Michelini.
@bartelby123
@bartelby123 13 жыл бұрын
Just from this small interview with Topher extolling some of the ideas behind what makes Eddie such a great character ( ie. His strong exterior and weak interior as the opposite of Peter) is just brilliant. The idea of making Eddie Brock a Mr.Ripley type of character is very strong. A whole film should have been devoted to this. It would have been amazing. As for the motorcycle and shades and ladies man thing, I think a LOT was left on the cutting room floor. They needed room for jazz dancing.
@Silver_S847
@Silver_S847 Жыл бұрын
I don’t like how in this video Topher says that Eddie Brock rides a motorcycle, but then in the movie we don’t see it.
@BlackWingedSeraphX
@BlackWingedSeraphX 12 жыл бұрын
Everyone says 3 was the worst, and I agree that they should have done things differently. But financially, it made more money than the first and the second did each.
@justletmesleep3247
@justletmesleep3247 4 жыл бұрын
I think the Venom costume looks better in this movie then in the Venom movie it looks really good
@LPnumber1
@LPnumber1 16 жыл бұрын
Damn, I never knew that the actor that plays Eric Forman from that 70s show was Eddie Brock.
@GlitchCFCommunity
@GlitchCFCommunity 11 жыл бұрын
i love this movie so so much
@badgerandbutterfly
@badgerandbutterfly 16 жыл бұрын
I loove him! He's my favorite villan!
@Vroesjuhiu22
@Vroesjuhiu22 16 жыл бұрын
I love Topher Grace =] that 70's show rules!
@patricew.4010
@patricew.4010 5 жыл бұрын
When Eddie became Venom, that should have been the end of his involvement in the movie. He should have been the main villian in Spiderman-4. This film should have been about Eddie's character development. Topher was fine....just didnt see him enough in the film. Though if Harry hadnt intervened, him getting jumped by those two would have killed him.
@thedlsking1628
@thedlsking1628 Жыл бұрын
Yes we could see his story between him and cletus kasady in spiderman 4
@Hectorferjr2
@Hectorferjr2 12 жыл бұрын
Sam didn't want Venom to star in his movies yet but while he was writing Spider-Man 3 with his brother Ivan Raimi and Alvin Sargent he began to appreciate the character himself based on how well Alvin Sargent wrote him in the screenplay and the fact that he fit the theme of Peter learning that he is not a sinless vigilante and that there also can be humanity in those he considers criminals.
@xXMercifulFallXx
@xXMercifulFallXx 15 жыл бұрын
venom is awesome, one of my favorite villians, considering that he's the opposite of spiderman.
@alexomanonerd4178
@alexomanonerd4178 4 жыл бұрын
Congrats. You make my CHILLHOOD be better! MISS EVERYONE
@JosefineLea
@JosefineLea 11 жыл бұрын
His name is Topher Grace .
@SFforlife
@SFforlife 17 жыл бұрын
I thought it was so funny they put Eric in as Brock! I actually think he did a very well job as Brock though. I saw him at first, and I just said, "Hey, it's Eric!" His character kicked ass in the movie which I saw today, and I enjoyed all of it very much. I thought it was great. Too bad, he totally got vaporized to the point you saw his skeleton though! Ha!
@mustangsilver16
@mustangsilver16 11 жыл бұрын
This movie was bad. No doubt. But the worst part wasn't venom. Honestly the only part of this movie I enjoyed was seeing Eric Forman play venom at the end. No, Topher Grace shouldn't have been cast for this role at all but I think he did a good job for what he could do.
@ArtifactRap
@ArtifactRap 9 жыл бұрын
And may I say that failure wasn't his own, I'm skinny too so if I was offered the part of venom in a blockbuster hell yeah I'm taking it!
@808sosuh
@808sosuh 7 жыл бұрын
mustangblack05 just shut up dude omfg r u literally so dumb who cares
@LAKU1975
@LAKU1975 14 жыл бұрын
the black suit effect is awesome
@I_am_Dane_Youssef
@I_am_Dane_Youssef 12 жыл бұрын
EVERYONE thought Venom was awesome. What EVERYONE hated was this movie's interpretation of Eddie Brock and the casting of Topher Grace in the role.
@GustavoACD
@GustavoACD 7 жыл бұрын
Damm! Since i saw this movie I've always wanted Eddie's browm hoodie but I wasn't able to find it :(
@CENATIONwweSwagger
@CENATIONwweSwagger 6 жыл бұрын
It was probably made just for the movie
@zanemarte9877
@zanemarte9877 7 жыл бұрын
From 1:03 to 1:25. I believe this is an original shot of the sequence where after Peter put the black suit on he jumps up the bell tower and then jumps down to the bell area. And I believe they re did that shot during post production. Does anybody notice that.
@areloTET
@areloTET 3 жыл бұрын
They didn't even bring up that it took 25 edits to make the Venom transformation scene perfect.
@Kuwaiti1990
@Kuwaiti1990 17 жыл бұрын
In the comics, Venom was the ultimate threat to spider man. But in the movie, he wasnt. great vid. I gotta buy the DVD for the special features
@eddie2913
@eddie2913 4 жыл бұрын
What do you think about venom now?
@dabkatz8406
@dabkatz8406 7 жыл бұрын
Grace should have gotten jacked. It probably wouldn't have done much to improve the film, but I would have more respect for him and his effort in the role.
@TonyMcCrea
@TonyMcCrea 5 жыл бұрын
I didn't see a single fucking person on this planet say anything about Hardy not getting jacked. Raimi actually had a padded muscle suit for Grace that gave him an intimidating presence and made him look really awesome, and what did Hardy have? A shit ton of ugly CGI and a single sweaty hoodie for the entirety of the film. Great job. FYI, Grace is still the top Venom there ever was.
@TheLivingNightm4re
@TheLivingNightm4re 3 жыл бұрын
In the movie He's named Eddie Brock Jr. And that's the name of the Ultimate Version So they must've based it off the Ultimate Version like one person said. And the Ultimate Version is also not jacked.
@OceanbornAngel
@OceanbornAngel 17 жыл бұрын
Well guys, I think bringing Venom back will mostly depend upon whether or not the symbiote genetically bound itself to Eddie Brock. This way even if parts of the symbiote survived the blast, it could reassemble itself and its host by cellular multiplication.
@Frozen4Flame
@Frozen4Flame 17 жыл бұрын
I think that Venom's actual face should've been shown more. In reality, Eddie only showed his face so that Peter would recognize him.He kept it on for most of the time he was with the symbiote. I mean, a brick almost hit his unexposed head, wouldn't it have been better if he had kept the face on to prevent that? Zepp900, I totally agree with you that Venom should be back in muscle. It was the one thing that made him too strong for Spiderman to fight aside from knowing all of Peter's moves.
@Chloefornication
@Chloefornication 13 жыл бұрын
@Meggiemoo2810 It was shaped as Spider-Man suit 'cause he was wearing the suit and Peter was a nice guy. Eddie has a very dark and weak interior, just like Topher said. This dark guy + the angry and rejected simbyote made Venom. The simbyote has become evil because spider-man reject it and made it feel angry and hate spider-man. All of its wrath mixed with Eddie's hate created Venom. Peter was a nice guy, Eddie wasn't and when the alien bonded with him it was feeling very, very angry.
@nguyenvu97
@nguyenvu97 13 жыл бұрын
Love the theme
@nvapurpp5026
@nvapurpp5026 4 жыл бұрын
With great power comes great fun
@Bethelhorses
@Bethelhorses 12 жыл бұрын
When the goo first falls on eddie he takes his jacket off and tosses it to the floor, when the rest of the goo gets him, the jacket is no where to be seen....
@Megawaste12
@Megawaste12 15 жыл бұрын
the way they made hulk, they should've made venom in this movie, like in ultimate spiderman venom was freaking buff as hell
@JYDY-if5rf
@JYDY-if5rf 3 жыл бұрын
Topher Grace should play venom again in no way home
@JoelGarciaJaquez
@JoelGarciaJaquez 15 жыл бұрын
Spider man movies r just Awesome!!
@TKOblue
@TKOblue 15 жыл бұрын
I think Topher did a great job as an actor, but I feel the writers just sort of...wrecked it. You see Topher saying how Eddie Brock "drives a motorcycle" or "wears shades", etc., when we never see Eddie do any of these things. In the movie, he just seemed to be a backup character that was eventually thrown in to make a villain. I mean, Venom is seriously a cool villain, but the way he's portrayed is like the producers rushed to kill him off in front of everyone so people would stop asking...
@jujumcmuffin
@jujumcmuffin 15 жыл бұрын
I LOVE SPIDERMAN 3!
@TheBADAZZ94
@TheBADAZZ94 12 жыл бұрын
they dont even say the name venom in the movie. if topher said "we are venom!" just one time. i wouldve forgiven this movie
@seymourkrelborn4780
@seymourkrelborn4780 5 жыл бұрын
"Together, we are poison to Spider-Man, we, are Venom!!!"
@FinalGuyKris
@FinalGuyKris 15 жыл бұрын
I think with what they were able to do..Venom was decent...not amazingly awesome but not horrible either.. I stll love this film no matter what the fans that are blinded by rage say.
@MegaThekiller01
@MegaThekiller01 10 жыл бұрын
hey foreplay
@OceanbornAngel
@OceanbornAngel 17 жыл бұрын
You know, I really wouldn't mind one bit if Topher Grace worked out a bit and bulked up to reprise Venom in a sequel. It would be so in character for Eddie to become obsessed with adding muscle mass to his opwn body so as to become a more formidable force to destroy Spider-man. And to you who poo poo this notion, I saw Spider-man 3 yesterday and saw absolutely no skeletonization of Eddie Brock. You miust have been watching a totally different movie.
@eagc7
@eagc7 17 жыл бұрын
For mee grace was the best playing venom in the movie.
@Trevman690
@Trevman690 13 жыл бұрын
It wouldve been soo much better if venom had come in earlier in the movie. I knew venom was in this movie when I saw it in theatre and I waited the whole movie to see him and what I got was topher grace in a black costume. He did a good job, don't get me wrong, but there shouldve been more venom and less Eddie.
@Afgndawg
@Afgndawg 15 жыл бұрын
@ terrestrialrain if you havent seen the movie by now, even when it came out on basic cable, do not complain about the ending being spoiled 4 years after a box office hit came out
@letsgetthisoverwith
@letsgetthisoverwith 17 жыл бұрын
In the commics Venom is also believed to be dead in the original 80s saga, the symbiote was killed by Styx but 'regenerated' and rebonded with Brock in the Maximum Carnage minisseries, I'm hoping it's the same here...
@TheRarecats
@TheRarecats 13 жыл бұрын
@theRichardPerkins LOL He went from a wimpy kid with a cool basement to spider man's enimie
@hiteshsharma9252
@hiteshsharma9252 4 жыл бұрын
00:35 the man who ruined spider-man trilogy/ hadn't been for his ego, we would have got spiderman 4.
@Thehumornetwork
@Thehumornetwork 13 жыл бұрын
is the guy who played eddie eric from taht 70s show,or is that just me?
@adamrmattock1
@adamrmattock1 7 жыл бұрын
Why didn't Topher Grace get the 2018 gig of Venom?
@Dane_Youssef
@Dane_Youssef 5 жыл бұрын
They wanted the more classic old school interpretation of Venom. For everyone who liked this version, there were just as many that didn't.
@alexman378
@alexman378 13 жыл бұрын
Perfect ending: In the final scenes, Sandman gets bitten by Venom, and he is dying by poisoning. He asks forgiveness from Spidey, tells him what happened with his uncle, and asks from him to have an eye on his daughter;s health. Then dies. Harry also dies like in the final scene, and Venom escapes. Spidey gets the girl back, and in the next scene he listens that a black suited figure similar to spidey has been sighted. Spidey then swings around to find him and the film closes like the others.
@necromancer147
@necromancer147 5 жыл бұрын
I was hoping to see how they put on the venom affect.
@mskinns7775
@mskinns7775 8 жыл бұрын
is the cathedral in spiderman based off any cathedrals?
@jaaackal
@jaaackal 17 жыл бұрын
eddie and symbiote were probably so weak after the blast they were resting on a metal girder
@OptimusPhillip
@OptimusPhillip 4 жыл бұрын
Seeing this mini-doc makes this movie even more of a shame. These are some great ideas for a new take on Venom, but they were never really fleshed out in the final film. I'd really like to see this idea given another go under better circumstances.
@I_am_Dane_Youssef
@I_am_Dane_Youssef 12 жыл бұрын
Actually, it was thanks to the screenwriters and the studio.
@krakhaid
@krakhaid 17 жыл бұрын
that is what really happened in the comics
@EthanRom
@EthanRom 13 жыл бұрын
Wow, so that's why Eddie Broc was so different from his comic counterpart. Great vid.
@MertBert
@MertBert 17 жыл бұрын
I would loo-oove to see the behind the effects clip when he becomes venom:)
@georgeboultadakis2215
@georgeboultadakis2215 4 жыл бұрын
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@MertBert
@MertBert 4 жыл бұрын
If I could go back in time I'd say thanks
@georgeboultadakis2215
@georgeboultadakis2215 4 жыл бұрын
@@MertBert Hehe, no need to
@alexman378
@alexman378 13 жыл бұрын
So even though he had a little screen time, the next movie would have him as a primary villain for the whole film, and at the end, Carnage is created and closes the film. Then he has the stage for the next film. See? That simple.
@darkchiefReborn
@darkchiefReborn 14 жыл бұрын
@hanbi47 It wasnt Raimi's fault Sony forced him to put Venom in at the last moment when the movie was going to come out May 3rd so he couldnt change the date thats why venom wasnt really good in it
@BlackWingedSeraphX
@BlackWingedSeraphX 12 жыл бұрын
I think Topher should have played Vulture (in his young form after he drains people) he looks more like him. John Cena shoulda played Venom since he's so big and buff. I always thought of Venom as Spider-Man's bully. I would have casted Jim Carey as Carnage, and Ashton Kutcher as Electro lol.
@HendrixDermawan
@HendrixDermawan 8 жыл бұрын
tobey maguire cool
@TruMorbid
@TruMorbid 17 жыл бұрын
I would've preferred a bigger and more lean Venom myself, but I guess they thought it'd be better to slim him down just to make him a dark Peter. Oh well. He IS bigger than Peter as is, though.
@venospid
@venospid 15 жыл бұрын
this movie was AMAZING. no b.s.
@CJFRANKS7
@CJFRANKS7 13 жыл бұрын
How do you breathe through that mask?! And i thought this venom was cool
@jadenbrooks6281
@jadenbrooks6281 9 жыл бұрын
I Loved This Movie Its My Fav
@asadr8885
@asadr8885 7 жыл бұрын
Jaden Brooks
@bullymagiurestudios5693
@bullymagiurestudios5693 5 жыл бұрын
My favorite one was the first episode.
@arturopotter
@arturopotter 15 жыл бұрын
topher is a great actor and a great venom, but I would use him as the main villain. I would have make the sand man go away sooner
@rickgrimes9530
@rickgrimes9530 4 жыл бұрын
Bro Nice how the hell did you get up there for spiderman to take off the blck suit
@kaigescuk
@kaigescuk 12 жыл бұрын
because he knows his voice
@shermanshecapio3944
@shermanshecapio3944 4 жыл бұрын
Topher Grace left That '70s Show (1998) to star in this movie.
@HeroOfTime121
@HeroOfTime121 13 жыл бұрын
I like this movie and all, but it definitely wasn't as good as the first two. The biggest reason I watch this now is for Topher Grace, and I'm sure no one needs me to explain why it's so funny to see him in the movie.
@torydz
@torydz 17 жыл бұрын
In Spider-Man 4, they should have Venom get into a relationship with MJ. She would so bum him out and depress him to death that he would commit suicide and Spider-Man wouldn't have to worry about him again.
@FazTheGunna
@FazTheGunna 14 жыл бұрын
isnt this the dude from 'that 70s show'?......
@spaceworld3342
@spaceworld3342 5 жыл бұрын
what is the name of the church where the film was shot and where is this ?
@horaciosi
@horaciosi 14 жыл бұрын
so, the black suit is not CG?
@TheRarecats
@TheRarecats 13 жыл бұрын
Every time is see Ashton Kutcher or Mila Kunis I thing "That 70's Show" But when I see Topher I think SPIDER MAN!!!!!!!!!!
@XFearTheSpearX
@XFearTheSpearX 15 жыл бұрын
They needed a bigger guy to play Eddie. He wasn't even Venom in Spiderman 3. Venom is supposed to be a GIANT black mass and in that S3 he was smaller than spiderman.
@golightning291
@golightning291 3 жыл бұрын
Wonder if this is gonna start trending soon because of the Venom 2 trailer...
@Webhead731
@Webhead731 16 жыл бұрын
It's just an edited movie clip. The final film has him taking the hoodie off.
@AreEnTee
@AreEnTee 4 жыл бұрын
I refuse to believe that's a blue screen
@JiMMyJaM08061991
@JiMMyJaM08061991 16 жыл бұрын
seriously the hairstyle,man its obvious who he is
@jaaackal
@jaaackal 17 жыл бұрын
there is a chance he will be back
@eddie2913
@eddie2913 4 жыл бұрын
And you were right
@raydepot
@raydepot 5 жыл бұрын
Topher Grace you was Venom yaa you are awesome like that Suit Venom
@Dharma818
@Dharma818 13 жыл бұрын
There is a wrong upload date of this video..!!!
@DKhav0c25
@DKhav0c25 12 жыл бұрын
isnt that the same guy from thats 70's show?
@farhanafit
@farhanafit 11 жыл бұрын
I Like Venom Costume
@RamWorkz
@RamWorkz 14 жыл бұрын
@pinkygallol he did leave a piece of the symbiote in the lab,but i dont thinj that matters after the reboot
@massakre01
@massakre01 15 жыл бұрын
seann william scott.. now theres an interesting thought
@la2509
@la2509 6 жыл бұрын
Amd in that exact day, the cameraman got fired.
@lpmmxvii7422
@lpmmxvii7422 5 жыл бұрын
What do u mean?
@TKOblue
@TKOblue 15 жыл бұрын
...to put him in the movies. I do believe Sam Riami stated that he hates the symbiotes, which would've been okay if he actually left them out of the movie. This Venom was embarassing as a character: he was seen maybe for thirty minutes throughout the entire film, only ten of those him being bonded with the symbiote, no sort of background whatsoever (just pops in and introduces himself), and plus he "hated" Peter Parker for the most idiotic reason: Peter called out his fake photo, so he must die?
@TheAngrySwampMan
@TheAngrySwampMan 13 жыл бұрын
@Meggiemoo2810 The suits vary upon the character of the hosts.
@LEluuluu
@LEluuluu 15 жыл бұрын
wow. Never noticed his blue eyes until now.. Unless those are contacts. Still, very good looking.
@yaniel94
@yaniel94 13 жыл бұрын
@Meggiemoo2810 great question.
@Afgndawg
@Afgndawg 15 жыл бұрын
@spiderboy108 i know he had to die, but if they were going to make another film why not kill him in the last film they make. Also i heard he dies in the comics by drugs so they totally changed that in the movie, i just think he was too good of a character to kill of so soon
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