Spider-Man and JJJ in court (Comic Dub)

Original comic: She-Hulk (2004) Issue 4
#comicdub #voiceover #marvel #spiderman

[@darkmanstudios3828]

The “I’m black” accusation is even funnier when you know Jonah has a history of advocacy for the Civil Rights Movement and Progressivism, with his hate of masks tying into KKK members trying to get him for exposing them.

[@oisinlynch8427]

I’m surprised they didn’t say cause he was Jewish cause in a comic book Steve Rogers compares Jonah to Adolph hitler

[@DinoLoverGaming]

@@oisinlynch8427 first: *Adolf, second: even Marvel knows not to cross that line

[@robonator2945]

@@DinoLoverGaming see ya say that, but the Red Lobster disagrees.

[@oisinlynch8427]

@@DinoLoverGaming actually if you look up comicstorian there’s a story with Spider-Man and captain America and captain America call Jonah out as a nazi also people know what the name is even if it’s spelled wrong so don’t be a grammar nazi

[@adamb89]

@@DinoLoverGaming *Adork

[@azeroth2994]

And from this moment on, some would say JJJ's hatred for Spider-Man grew three sizes that day

[@trevortyrrell175]

Very true.

[@TheyCallMeDio]

​@@trevortyrrell175that's not a lot of growth then huh

[@trevortyrrell175]

@@TheyCallMeDio Fair point.

[@koushikraja331]

The way he had JJJ sweating and bringing up the "some of my best friends are...." defense🤣🤣🤣

[@jameshibberd5134]

And the way he stops himself halfway through and goes "oh" as he realised its like the single shittiest defense

[@GZilla311]

@@jameshibberd5134Except in this ONE CASE it is actually true. Robbie Robertson.

[@ArcCaravan]

That was great. Nice on circumventing the secret identity issue by using Avengers stuff. And that joke at the end was hilarious.

[@conradlorgar5508]

I mean not really since it didnt actually provide any identity that is recognised by the government Spiderman is a legal identity as much as sexmaster69 is a legal identity

[@ArcCaravan]

​@@conradlorgar5508Seems like a world with public superheroes have different rules based on accepted reasons like a secret identity to protect loved ones.

[@conradlorgar5508]

@@ArcCaravan except they dont since during civil war spidey tried making a statement at court and it was thrown out because he wouldnt de mask Infact the entirety of civil war disproves that, it was literally a conflict about Superheros having secret identities and no way to verify identity or hold accountability and was something that they tried to solve with the 50 state initiative so either this doesnt make sense or civil war was just because everyone on earth forgot about this law you think exists

[@ArcCaravan]

@@conradlorgar5508 I assume there's a difference between being used as a witness and making a direct statement. If not, this was still a fun scene regardless.

[@AustynSN]

@@ArcCaravan In DC Comics, it's been mentioned that superheroes keeping their secret identity hidden while testifying in court is recognized as part of fifth amendment protection.

[@noelmejias552]

HA! Peter pulled a Miles Morales on Jonah! 😂

[@ultimatecontagion]

😂

[@GrandmasterDevo]

And Miles didn't even exist when this was written! 😂

[@MarcelxDD]

Bro went like whatsapp danger 💀

[@w1ndgeneral226]

Spiderman: "It's because I'm black." Goblin: "Welp, there goes my standards." Kraven: "I KNEW IT! HE'S WAKANDAN!" Doc Ock: "But his tissue samples say-" Mystirio: "I...guess that narrows down the potential identities." Carnage: *"WELL I DON'T GIVE A @#$%!"*

[@toniotrussardi8126]

@@w1ndgeneral226 well carnage is a hillbilly so we know what he gonna say next

[@Valandar2]

They actually explained it WAAAAY back in issue 10 of the original series back in the 1960s. And JJ admits it to himself. It's because JJJ has lived his life tryig to get as much money as possible, while Spider-Man risks his life daily to help people for no thought of compensation, and he can't respect HIMSELF anymore for as long as Spider-Man does so.

[@zNEKOMARUz]

Didn't they retcon that? I thought the new reason was because JJJ thought Spiderman was a coward because he hid behind a mask, just like the man who killed JJJ's wife.

[@spencerallison3196]

That's one of the shows. Movies has that premise but because JJJ's son is an astronaut and is taking away "more deserved" credit.

[@Grag235]

There was another reason, and it was because JJJ thought that if he kept posting how much Spidey was awful, Spidey would continue helping people just to prove him wrong

[@alexanderthegreat1270]

Really? That's actually a very cool writing of his character, I wish that was expressed in more Spider-Man media.

[@anthonyrodriguez8788]

​@@spencerallison3196that was also his original reasoning in the comics. Spiderman saved his son's life in the comics and that's what started his crusade against the wallcrawler

[@maxmcelhannan7477]

Him saying Jonah hates him for being black had me on the floor laughing.

[@oisinlynch8427]

Well I mean if he’s never seen his face the cause I’m black statement definitely seems it could pass in a court of law😂

[@joshuaamadeusishak1887]

@@oisinlynch8427 Only Spiderman can make a joke in a court and make the whole gallery laugh.

[@cooper3814]

Miles Moralas; the real reason Miguel hates me, is because I'm black

[@gilgameshthetreasurehunter2750]

Miguel: *Not objecting.*

[@LitereallyNobody7]

"MILESSS THE BLAACK ONE"!!!!!

[@geraldposter1496]

Miguel: "...what, why is everyone looking at me like... JODER! THE COSTUME! I meant the black COSTUME, it's tacky and we all know it! Why is he even bleeding from the armpits?!"

[@cooper3814]

@@geraldposter1496 Miles; Why do you have a Skull on you chest? Did you kill someone? I wouldn't put it passed you seeing you almost chocked me to death!

[@luisalejandrolopezbuendia9686]

@@cooper3814 Miguel: It's part of my heritage, you unculture swine!

[@fuseteam]

'how would i know, he wear a full body suite all the time' didn't cross jonah's mind at all

[@mr.alpaca2663]

I mean, that was literally his first response, before he started trying to defend his character. He just was too off guard to say so eloquently

[@dasirrlicht5415]

To be fair, you do not get everyday accused of being racist about a person you do not even know how they look like... In court, I mean.

[@larrytherustyboii7442]

​@@dasirrlicht5415imo, if you react like jonah, you either really care about people's opinion or you don't.

[@XX-sp3tt]

When JJ refused to kill a story investigating mobsters, there was a drive by on him... but the killer shot JJ's wife instead of JJ.

[@georgekostaras]

the guy voicing spidey has my sides splitting with laughter

[@panglyphs2685]

Really hope the next head line is “Spider man pretends to be black”

[@sarumike-bb5ip]

Spider-Man pulls a Michael Jackson

[@PikachuLittle]

@@sarumike-bb5ip “Well you see I have reverse Michel Jackson disease”

[@CristopherVelàsquez-u3n]

​@@PikachuLittle *uncle ruckus music*

[@E102gamma52]

He could have destroyed career in a mount of seconds because no one know if is speaking the truth So does that mean…

[@the_coconut_is_home]

He truly is humble and good

[@E102gamma52]

@@the_coconut_is_home oh he is

[@PotatoPatatoVonSpudsworth]

JJJ is the perfect example of how good people can become corrupted by their biases if they're unable to question their beliefs. The man was once a pulitzer prize winning journalist and a genuine hero.

[@user-Phoenix125]

I thought it was because that Peter didn't notice Jameson calling for help when his wife was dying and that sparked his anger towards Spider-Man.

[@larrytherustyboii7442]

​@@user-Phoenix125no it's because the dude who killed his wife was a vigilante apparently. That and his murderer wear a mask. Seeing spider man in a mask trigger jonah the most.

[@Cruddy129]

See, THIS is Spiderman, a wise cracking teen that likes to make fun of a serious moment and everyone joined in on the laughs none of that obsessive need to have him go through the worst things imaginable with no happy ending

[@immortalfrieza]

Spider-Man is kinda both. He's a fun loving superhero who cracks jokes all the time but life seems to go out of it's way to make him miserable in every way it can at the same time. I think it makes Spidey more heroic that he can face an endless stream of crap in his life and still do what he does. But yes, the writers do take it way too far sometimes.

[@jerm70]

The problem with a character like Peter is that his life is a tragedy. With every evolution, he is supposed to go through highs and lows. The problem is that instead of committing to the evolution of the character and trying to see him deal with the responsibility of a father and the responsibility of a hero instead Peter is forced to become a manchild again.

[@squallofthedai]

@@immortalfrieza: You can have Spidey confronting understandable barriers and still come out as a hero without having turning his entire life into one crapsack world for the sake of "drama makes him more interesting." Hell I'd actually like a few stories where his life doesn't have to suck and he gets to have a pretty decent day and it would still be interesting for me. These writers (same for Batman) seem to think that it's only when a character is at breaking point that they're interesting and it's annoying.

[@codysonic1]

Seriously Marvel enough torment for the web slinger, let him have his wins and his happy moments.

[@immortalfrieza]

@@squallofthedai The problem is far too many writers think that the only way for character to be interesting is if they're constantly teetering on the edge of despair or madness. A big part of what made Spider-Man identifiable is how crappy his life was, but writers have turned that into "his life must always be crappy, all the time, and it must never stop getting worse."

[@steviegilliam5685]

Id be sweating bullets too if I was JJ

[@MoltenUprisingMK]

Spidey, you may not be a menace like JJ says, but you are a BEAST. You served him like a New York hot dog on a summer Saturday.

[@TheCheeseWall]

2:12 this had me laughing for awhile 😂 why aren’t Spider-Man comics like this now

[@therealchaosguy]

Because unfortunately Miles wouldn’t make the same jokes

[@TheCheeseWall]

@@therealchaosguy i was aiming at peter and the "PAUL" arc

[@XaldirGodofGood]

Because Spider Man Writers need to make his life as miserable as possible at every given opportunity.

[@jadenhumphrey8778]

@@TheCheeseWall we don’t talk about Paul

[@Tyranid_Hive_Mind]

Woke twitter

[@themachoechidnaugandarandy7583]

For those wondering she hulk was helping spider man sue jjj but when the court demanded peter parker to appear in court as he too was going to be sued, spider man went to she hulk demanding to drop the case as he didnt want to be sued and wasn't funny anymore

[@Rose-yx6jq]

2:10 my FAVORITE part of the comic.

[@PotatoPatatoVonSpudsworth]

They make Spidey's fingers/hands noticeably longer than average in this comic. (Look at 2:30 and 1:36) At first I thought it was a mistake, but the consistency made me realize it's actually a clever detail, because the guy spends so much time clinging to walls by his fingers. Professional pianists develop similar hands, albeit not usually to the same degree.

[@filmzindustries]

Someone at work says that fact so Peter now has to have mastery in piano so no one gets suspicious that he has that but can’t play piano

[@graemehambly2492]

Speech 100 Destruction 100

[@frazzianimations9027]

Pranking 100

[@danialshamshuddin]

Illusion 100 🐲

[@towasolspeiggo5586]

Pranking 100k

[@tylerwade6539]

I swear the "It's because of I'm black" cracks me up all the time.

[@BasementDweller_]

I loved how JJ was freaking out trying his best to defend himself.

[@cxireen2193]

Imagine if Jonah had someone calling him "Jay Jay"

[@civilbeast165]

This comic needs to be put in a cartoon one day but change the ending so Peter beats JJ in court instead of letting him off easy and JJ has to either back off Spider-Man or just not print anything about him at all

[@Kishanth.J]

I’m not sure if this is the same comic but didn’t he let him off after his lawyer added Peter Parker as part of the suit. As he was the photographer that was responsible for the deflationary images?

[@Ultra_JTB]

@@Kishanth.J correct

[@luisalejandrolopezbuendia9686]

@@Kishanth.J yeah, Spider-Man sued for a lot of money against Jameson, but when the judge and whatnot decided to add Peter Parker into the lawsuit, Peter saw how screwed he was and instead made an agreement to let bygons be bygons and it involved him as Peter and Jameson dressed as chickens

[@youtubestudiosucks978]

I too like too call spiderman, he needs something good so i'd just buy him something as simple as a pizza. It's not much but he needs something other then the stuff he suffers on a daily basis

[@Ikajo]

Funnily enough, the two issues he teamed up with Loki was probably his most happy adventure. And we are talking the old Loki

[@AdeptKing]

@@Ikajo I think he was actually happy in that universe where he became an assassin too.

[@MettaKing]

This is genuinely great lol

[@alexandarvoncarsteinzarovi3723]

"The real reason Jonah hates me....is because I'm Black!" - lol its even crazier when you figure out that in the deeper part of the lore, Jonah had a lot of black friends, always fought for their civil rights and even went on the air to state about how mutants are treated in the same horrible way, lol Spidey,

[@LitereallyNobody7]

That hesitation........and that "some of my friends are" defence

[@luisalejandrolopezbuendia9686]

Jameson is a civil rights supporter, his best friend is an actual black man and is constantly against oppresion of minorities, to the point that he has been seen numerous times calling people biggots and even went as far as to tell to an anti-mutant ass that he would not be silenced and that he will keep being a reporter and see him and everyone else behind bars for what they did. Which is why he knew that trying to defend himsel like that would only make him look actually racist

[@TheSpencermacdougall]

I already seen this, so I knew that joke was coming, so I started laughing even before he said the punchline.

[@targetseeker]

Seeing the court laugh feels weird now after they actually made a story where the whole world lost their collective shit because the masked superhero they idolized is actually a black dude (Blue Marvel).

[@UnsafestPony81]

Just have to say, the last page...Spider-Man's odd hands. Fucking looks like Salad Fingers over here. XD

[@l-wolverine2211]

Ironic!!! Spidey made J Jonah Jameson look even more Guilty in the eyes of the Jury. Imagine if Miles Morales was there instead.

[@Strixer-gk2kz]

I'm surprised Peter is never mentioned, not even by Jonah.

[@tibfulv]

Hidden identity.

[@diegocamacho6477]

Peter was called in lattter as a witness. The lawsuit was going well until his lawyer decides to include the Bugle’s “star photographer” as a defendant, meaning if Peter won the suit he too would be screwed

[@Exis247]

Nice job on the voice acting!

[@tamashorvath224]

I remember i had to pause reading and laugh for a solid minute

[@AlvorReal]

That thumbnail is an entirely fair point. Its a world with gods and shapeshifters. Showing up a d treating this like half a joke is a vicious mischaracterization of justice.

[@Wolfy39565]

this is funny😅😅😅😅

[@davidbuchanan8809]

😂😂😂😂 That joke was funny is like spider man is making people think that Jameson is racist

[@HaakonTheRayquaza]

Imagine if Pete had Miles Testify in his’ Place

[@easygorunner4763]

Thought process is better. this is ruined.

[@margarethmichelina5146]

I don't know which one is hillarious: The fact Spiderman was joking that he's Black or The Lawyer has an Avenger Detector Machine thing

[@dennybarkleysoueu]

2:13 if got the symbiote suit, he will say this line

[@phantomthiefjoker939]

2:12 - 2:28 The Ultimate Funniest Moment

[@somedudewatchintv5297]

Specifically about the thumbnail part no that wouldn't actually be enough since there's tons of ways to fake or replicate his abilities. But even if he did turn up without a mask no one knows who he is so they still wouldn't know if if he was actually Spider-Man.

[@PikachuLittle]

Reminds me of the time Peter got unmasked by Doc Ock because his powers were on the fritz. Which ironically is what saved him, since he wasn’t fighting like Spider-Man, he was fighting like some dude dressed as Spider-Man. So everyone thought it was just Peter having a weird “Imma dress up like Spider-Man and punch super villains” phase

[@Howlabunga]

symbol looks weird

[@bradyhoneycutt3564]

Dude EVERYTHING looks weird in this comic

[@MenachemSchmuel]

@@bradyhoneycutt3564 forreal go to 2:33 and look at spidey's long mf fingers

[@Toxicgang27]

Different artist bro they always switch it up

[@albertusaswin2012]

Congrats, Spidey, you owe me a glass of coffee. I spilled mine when you said Jonah hated you because you're black but you were just kidding.

[@NoiGS]

1: Lol 2: wtf his fingers XDD

[@deshaunwest7370]

😂😂Listen, guys, I know he just got scanned proving that he's spider man, but after that last "I'm black" comment, are we positive this is not deadpool underneath that mask🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@SUPERSIDESWIPER]

Yes. Because he hasn’t said a single dirty joke, spoke to people who aren’t there or threatened to maim anyone.

[@jonathandiaz4997]

3 months ago 😮

[@manuelgrothe608]

2:12 Mr. Incredible got sued for saving Oliver Sansweet who apparently didn’t want to be saved and another sued was filed by the victims of the El-Train Accident, Mr. Incredible’s court losses cost the government millions with dozens of Hero lawsuits the world over.

[@gabrielvieira9578]

THANK YOU I NEEDED TO FIND IT

[@ZephyrBW]

Gotta love that spidey

[@danielenglish235]

So why didn't She hulk this or thing like this, like if Captain America was part of hydra?

[@OmegaChase1002]

JJJ, more like KKK. Oh MAN is he gonna have trouble with Miles...

[@ahsoei9641]

Pugliese.... Why does that name sound familiar? Who is that again?

[@DragonGoddess18]

Soooo,JJJ is pathetic Good to know

[@DarkOmegaMK2]

THE DAILY BUGGLE HATES THE BLAAAAAAAAAAAAAACKKKKKKKKKKKKKKSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@peeweemaroske8619]

The main reason why JJ Jameson hates Spider-Man is because people love him more than his Astronaut son. John Jameson. In a comic John was a guest on a late TV show. But they kicked him to the side and had Spidey as their guest instead. If you watch The Spectacular Spider-Man show. He is so convinced that his son is better than Spidey. He calls Peter's pictures of himself and the Goblin fighting worthless. Saying they are celebrating a "real hero" as their headline. His son. JJ Jameson tells Peter Parker to sell his pictures to the Globe. Saying they'll sell anything. With confidence that the Bugle will make more with the Space Shuttle then the Globe will with Spider-Man. JJJ gets pissed 😡 off the next day when Robbie tells him that the Globe's front headline of Spider-Man vs Green Goblin slaughtered the Bugle's headline of his son's survival of his Space Shuttle coming back to Earth 🌎 at the news stand. In one comic Peter tricks JJ into thinking John is Spider-Man. Then all of a sudden JJ calls Spidey "New York's greatest hero". So it just comes down to JJ Jameson to being a stupid, overprotective and immature father who cant accept the fact that Spider-Man is triple the "hero" John Jameson is. Let's face it. Spider-Man has got one hot wife. Mary Jane. They do some get it on lot's of times. One time he webbed her up. Told her the webs will desolve in an hour. He's free to do whatever he wants with her til that happens. Heck in Spider-Man 2 Mary Jane left John Jameson at the altar to be with Spider-Man. I would love it if The Spectacular Spider-Man show came back and someone asks JJ Jameson on why be hates Spider-Man so much.

[@maxcardun]

Okay while it is indeed hillarious to put J. Jonah Jamison on the spot in a court room no less, why wasn't Spider-Man held in contempt for any of those antics and "Kidding" on the stand? No further questions? Matt Murduck wouldn't have let that happen!

[@salutauo2035]

Why does the Avengers security system have access to a Federal Database as part of its identification system?

[@SUPERSIDESWIPER]

To provide confirmation that the individual is a United States citizen?

[@salutauo2035]

@@SUPERSIDESWIPER Not all the Avengers are a US citizen furthermore for their identification they could just have a private database about all of the members

[@luisalejandrolopezbuendia9686]

@@salutauo2035 it was mostly because while they're not exactly agents of the goverment, they do have certain conections and have been known for helping them from time to time. Back in the day, the goverment actually did have some level of authority over the Avengers, to the point that they even put the hero Thriatlon in it for, and I'm not shitting you, diversity. Also around the 2000s, they also had some conections through even the U.N and even prior to that, seeing that the U.N once asked them to bring in Magneto to be trialed on his crimes. Plus, they do opperate on U.S soil and with the amount of bases they have had, from a Mansions, Compounds, hydrobases, buildings, a Hellicarrier or two, it kind of makes sense why the Goverment would at least want some level of easiness to know that the ones using it are actual superheroes and not some nutjob cosplayer that could cause a world-ending catastrophy because he/she pushed the wrong button. Now a days they have more freedom, to the point that they had Avengers Mountain, which was on the North Pole and had the Avengers themselves tel the goverment to buzz off and to not intervene with their internal affairs

[@salutauo2035]

@@luisalejandrolopezbuendia9686 Oh, I see

[@memeemporer11]

Good thing miles wasn't there

[@devoncampbell7073]

I'm going to walk honda good luck

[@ironpulse3658]

That was hilarious 😂

[@krennopher1269]

Excellent work

[@mq5731]

I get the joke, but in this day and age of cancel culture, what Spidey did was kind of an asshole move.

[@randomcenturion7264]

Still funny though 😂 Totally worth it to get a rise out of Jonah

[@roycead13]

boo stop being a joy-killer

[@mq5731]

@@randomcenturion7264 Oh definitely, I would do it as well if I had the chance

[@anthonyrodriguez8788]

Jonah has tried cancelling Peter since the very beginning of his career and has made Peters life a living hell due to how much of the public he turns against Peter, that is definitely a fair move. And that's not even getting into the times Jameson has tried to have him killed or the two supervillains that Jameson created out of his own pocket.

[@purkle200]

Jonah honestly deserves to get offed rather than canceled after all the crap he's pulled. Spider Slayer, Scorpion, Using tax payer money during his time as mayor to create a task force meant to take out Spider-Man

[@ajente2o254]

JJJ reaction to the last thing was kinda sus Or no idk I'm not American

[@jonielmercado4755]

What is the first thing that comes to mind when you hear James Jonah Jamison

[@SUPERSIDESWIPER]

“He’s a menace!” Followed by brushes.

[@JonGhostz]

Wouldn’t Spider-Man have to legally say his name and take off his mask for the court? I mean most people who have helped taken down criminal organizations have to legally write their name onto a piece of paper and testify in court. This is why we have witness protection program. The courts cannot use anonymous testimonies because anyone can make up whatever they want. Also asking someone for their opinion would result in the prosecution objecting to their statements because it could be seen as “hear say”

[@galaxycamerata]

That's where the federal database comes in. They have his identity on file through a submission by the Avengers, but refuse to disclose it so that he can be held liable for damages and, as shown, legally testify or appear in court while in costume. On a similar disney-related bend, a similar case occurred in Disneyland's history where a Winnie the Pooh suit actor was taken to court over allegedly knocking over a child with intent to harm. Due to Disney's contracts about Suit Actors, he had to attend court in character and in costume to demonstrate that his mobility in the suit would not be good enough to do what the mother of the child described, and the event was simply the child bouncing against the suit and falling over in the rush to meet Pooh.

[@JonGhostz]

I think them doing the demonstration was because they were suing Disney not trying to get the actor arrested specifically as there could be more than one person playing the character. The Avengers data base doesn’t excuse Spider-Man from having to reveal his identity as there have been numerous criminals in the mob or mafia that gave credible statements but were not allowed to be used in court if the witness did not sign their legal name and show up in court. None of them had the privilege of staying anonymous even though their lives were at stake. This is why we have witness protection program. Cops have to do the same thing, they as well they cannot be anonymous in court. There’s a lot of stuff that movies and TV shows put that would never happen in court. Like a surprise witness, you need to give all your evidence and say who your witnesses are to the court so they can approve or even disapprove before the trial starts. This is just another example of an embellishment of a other wise very boring and long process that isn’t supposed to play favorites.

[@koalafromtomorrow5656]

I mean they do have bunch of clones of Spiderman

[@adminjamie]

JJ 🤡

[@devoncampbell7073]

😂😂

[@GNSCMW]

Just because he’s a mask doesn’t mean he doesn’t have rights to wear it or have any less rights to be a mask.

[@JohnEusebioToronto]

Anyone else disturbed by how long his fingers are in the final panel?

[@filmzindustries]

Well he is hanging of buildings almost everyday of his life so it not to far fetched

[@God-Level-Threat]

Never trust a rat.

[@Animedingo]

Why are spideys fingers so long

[@filmzindustries]

His fingers are like that in a bunch of other comics and considering the fact that he’s hanging off walls and/or ceilings with his fingers. This happens in real life to but much tamer to pro piano players

[@jonathanplooij3666]

Lol