"Spider-Man: Homecoming" 2017 IN-DEPTH MOVIE DISCUSSION!! (SPOILERS)

[@Melanie-vl1fz]

After a rewatch, you'll notice that Michelle is actually following Peter around because she has a crush on him...like she's going to detention when she doesn't need to, she sits at his table, she knows he's quitting his clubs and he is in the Decathlon team even though she doesn't seem interested in the club at all. She's also often watching him from afar like in the homecomig scene.

[@Xpertfusion]

Melanie Delgado yeah... and at the end she gave Peter that look when she said her friends call her MJ, and so it seems like she may know he's Spider-Man

[@lokir9959]

I knew she liked him right away. It was obvious from the interest she seemed to take in him.

[@SuperSoldierIV]

Melanie Delgado She could just be infatuated with Parker because he's somewhat mysterious and she's bored. But the great thing I like about this MJ is that she doesn't put up with Parker's antics and can kind of see through his excuses. I especially like that she can keep up with Parker in wit. Yea I think they'd make a great couple.🤗

[@finalaccount4483]

Melanie Delgado Well she literally says she's not stalking him, but she's just observant. Right then, I knew she was stalking him, and liked him.

[@eternalposer1955]

She also flips off Peter when he shows up to the dance which I interpreted as her being upset that he didn't ask her.

[@beesilver97]

"I'm not a girl, I'm a boy! I mean, I'm a MAN!"

[@nirvana2277]

Mrsmiley186 more bale Batman XD

[@charlesanda4232]

Green Arrow interrogating voice anyone?

[@Cullenprime]

It was more of a rip on Batman NOT Green Arrow.

[@Cullenprime]

Like I said to someone else. It was more of a rip on Batman NOT Green Arrow.

[@charlesanda4232]

Cullenprime I meant his televised voice. He uses a voice changer

[@morganallen3007]

I love the scene where Peter is talking to Iron Man saying "if you'd even care, you'd actually be here", and then Tony comes out the armor immediately with a dead serious look.

[@jonathanrobinson198]

Michelle: My friends call me MJ. My theater: Aaaahhhh!!!!!!

[@Tan87ful]

Jonathan Robinson 😂😂😂 Mines did that too. I was laughing when that happened

[@jonathanrobinson198]

Nella J I'm fine with her being her own take on MJ. They have good chemistry of screen too.

[@generationmine3050]

Jonathan Robinson Michelle: My friends call me MJ Me: :O My theater: *Eats Popcorn*

[@gabrielhernandez8410]

When that teacher catches Ned in the computer lab during homecoming his response had me dying 😂

[@so-bs6ht]

I'm looking at

[@flowerpower32]

the principal was supposed to be his grandson i believe

[@raptorus7773]

flowerpower32 it is indeed

[@dygz]

Credited as Principal Morita. Yes.

[@josargor8179]

imagine he then turns to mr negative

[@mazterincognita997]

A little insight on MJ... Marvel Studios boss and Homecoming producer Kevin Feige recently told IGN’s Jim Vejvoda the following: “We never even looked at it as a big reveal necessarily but more of just a fun homage to his past adventures and his past love. She's not Mary-Jane Watson. She never was Mary-Jane Watson. She was always this new high school character, Michelle, who we know there's an ‘M’ in Michelle and an ‘M’ in Mary. [laughs] So we're so clever and we thought, ‘Wouldn't it be neat if her initials were MJ?’ … Is she going to date Peter? Are they going to fall in love? She seems to be intrigued with him. There's a nice chemistry there. Who knows what will happen in the future films?”

[@yourlittlebrotherGabrielReview]

Mazter Incognita I feel like that's code for she's a new character that falls in love with Spider-Man, who just so happens to have the same initials as Mary Jane.

[@V.elociraptor]

Well that would basically mean that they're not going to do Mary Jane Watson then. This is the MCU MJ. You can't have two characters who have the same nickname.

[@TheAllMightyJoe]

I loved the "You have to get better at interrogations" scene.

[@Cyriuxa]

I thought he didnt reveal Peter's identity as another example of life for a life after Peter saved him on the beach.

[@fifthknown]

Cyriuxa peter also saved his daughters life at the Washington Monument. He even said so in the car.

[@Cyriuxa]

Yeah, thats my point. In the car he says he lets him live as he saved his daughter, a life for a life. Peter then saves him on the beach after the crate explodes. So is he keeping the ID secret for that reason or because he wants revenge himself. Either way works, and makes him a good villain, IMO.

[@luminaorchis4376]

I felt that it was for 3 reasons: 1) Peter saved his life 2) Peter saved his daughter's life {as well as being his daughter's friend and love interest} 3) He's keeping that information close to the vest- for his own use/agenda that will probably be addressed in a future film. .

[@Ancientumoto]

no he sad:cross me and ill kill you and everyone you love. and peter crossed him. so thats what toomes is gonna do. and he wants to do it alone

[@ricois3]

Favorite Spider-Man, Favorite Peter Parker, favorite Spider-Man film. Tom Holland is the best! Also that last end credit scene is the best ever.

[@coolwoop]

they trolled the shit outta us lol

[@ariesash1861]

Ricois it was so good!

[@slappyguy4456]

serenityq26 it doesn't need too

[@ZBunney]

serenityq26 it doesn't seem you got the joke from it.

[@jadynware2385]

Remember.. patience

[@Kimbrell]

"He killed a guy by accident. Well I guess I'm a bad guy." He meant to hurt the guy. Accidentally killed him. "Welp oh well." He's a criminal with a conscience. The guy he accidentally killed was a piece of shit as it was. It didn't phase him. He can't show weakness in front of his crew. He was wanting to hurt him and show who's boss but killed him. He was a criminal stealing and selling. He wanted to kill Spider-Man. He tried. Failed. Then by the end of the movie, Spider-Man saved him and that's why he won't tell Scorpion his name. Idk... his thoughts on killing reminds me of Heisenberg. The things he does is "for the family". He's doing whatever necessary to provide for his family. The last mission was supposed to be their last one. The guy he was punishing/accidentally killed was in his way. Spider-Man who he wanted to kill was in his way of providing for his family. That's what it's all about, especially after being fired and being low. He "needed" the job. Was fired. 8 years later his family is living the rich life from all of his work. Just a few more jobs and he's done. He was a great villain.

[@Iamifitaly]

Mrsmiley186 Ramsay Bolton is #1 :))

[@taegotkash]

4 years later. They said that was a mistake.

[@RLinardi]

I think Vulture is for sure ex-military. When he is talking to Peter in that warehouse and talking about how poorer people get the short end of the stick, he mentions how people fight wars for the rich and die for them. I think the prologue was just the last straw for him. Plus that jacket does look kinda air force-ey.

[@iceman10129]

I think he was just a working man blue collar guy. Working on car engines and running a salvage crew. Sure he COULD be, but I wouldnt say "for sure". He could have been a paving crew owner for all we know.

[@rebelpoxy]

I thought the jacket was just to reinforce his image as the Vulture, especially with his balding head during the present time in the film.

[@annapires991]

One thing that I noticed is that people who were young during Tobey's Spiderman are old now, and therefore do not recognize the new high school tropes. Funny.

[@Phanthief95]

38:26 I feel like Spidey was quippy enough in Homecoming. He had the right amount, because he can't be too quippy. That was one of the major issues of Age of Ultron: it was too quippy. As well, Spidey's a part of the MCU & he's not the only quippy hero, as Ant-Man & Star-Lord are really quippy as well.

[@existentialmarxist3760]

I think the MCU finally nodded toward the Marvel Netflix universe. When Peter was telling Tony that he has to take down the Vulture and Tony said "there's people that handle this kind of stuff" and the then Peter said "the Avengers?" And tony replied "no it's a bit below their pay grade." Well if it's not the Avengers then who in the world is Tony talking about? Maybe the Defenders? I mean Tony could just be talking about the Feds, but we're also talking about criminals with alien tech, so maybe someone with more ability than the Feds.

[@Real_Battle-Axe]

Sometimes patience is the key to victory...

[@wheelz3127]

Yo ItzWrighty what are you talking about? IT WAS AMAZING! You should let him lunch all of you for payback.

[@teipeu9033]

Sometimes it leads to very little. And it seems like it’s not worth it.

[@Blacharrt]

Loved MJ, and flash because it's highschool

[@samjohnstone1335]

Blacharrt 60s are my favourite era for Spider-Man. So the fact they're doing high school is great to me.

[@rebelpoxy]

"Penis Parker" XD

[@MasterPoppers]

+Drakerson Yeah. At this time, having a physical bully just isn't quite as realistic. Sure, they still exist, but nowadays, a bully tortures people through psychologically means.

[@raptorus7773]

I laughed so hard, it was a great film, that in my opinion, had the best representation of Spidey, and again in my opinion in at least earned the vulture a spot in top 3 MCU villains.

[@SidPhoenix2211]

When I saw Toomes open the door at Liz's home, my jaw dropped on the floor! The entire scene (house + car) was so fucking tense. My heart was actually beating very fast due to nervousness and tension. I was "shook", as the youth call it, during those scenes. Michael Keaton's Vultures was easily one of the best MCU and superhero movie villains.

[@livinglightning9312]

I thought Andrew had a better Spiderman and still do. Holland was more like a clumsy Spiderman trying to work with his powers. I liked the witty remarks style of Andrew's Spiderman more. Plus Holland's version has no spider sense.

[@mariorkz4266]

Living Lightning All of the reasons you just listed are the reason why this movie's so successful. It portrays how Spidey was at the beginning, still trying to find his own road and all and still making clumsy moves

[@mariorkz4266]

Living Lightning Holland's spiderman does have spider-sense they showed it in CW when bucky through something at him from behind

[@mariorkz4266]

But the director said they didn't want to do the same spider-sense thing because it was already shown in previous spiderman movies

[@apparentlyAkshay]

Absolutely love how much time and effort you guys put into these videos. Its clear how much you love doing this. I've been a fan since Calvin's GOT catch up series. Thank you for all that you do for us. . P>S. I watched the movie today and I loved it.

[@Real_Battle-Axe]

Do you guys think that Oscorp is going to buy the old avengers tower?

[@adityanathan7059]

John1991 never thought about that, but I think oscorp still belongs to sony

[@tylerschultz997]

Flying Banana everything Spider-Man still belongs to Sony...

[@WizKickzsports]

Tyler Schultz no just the movie rights

[@adriencloud2130]

Oh that would be a fun idea. Almost like a MCU Microsoft vs. Apple dynamic

[@Ren-gt8ov]

John1991 I think so, and hope so

[@Dogninja78]

I totally disagree with you guys about MJ and Flash's portrayal. This portrayal of Flash was actually closer to the comics, he's always been more of a prick that was always picking on Peter rather than the stereotypical "GIVE ME YOUR FUCKING LUNCH MONEY" bully in recent portrayals. MJ on the other hand is different which I think is a really good thing. Mary Jane doesn't really have much of a personality other than just being Peter's hot trophy wife, so this snarky loner personality is a very welcome breath of fresh air. Also, she's in the movie for like ten minutes so she's obviously gonna get fleshed out more in future films. Also, her obvious crush on Peter was cute.

[@JoeyDChosen1]

Dogninja78 just because she said her friends call her " MJ" doesnt mean shes Mary Jane, her character is Michelle Jones, they even say her name, again Michelle Jones, MJ is for short, Mary Jane is a different character, get that through your thick head. you people dont pay attention at all cause you all freaked out when she says MJ when she isnt Mary Jane at all. its just a short name for Michelle Jones

[@Dogninja78]

lol Dude they're not gonna throw out the iconic spider-man nickname "MJ" if they weren't basically just gonna make her Mary Jane. She might have a different name but that was their way of saying that this was gonna be their iteration of Mary Jane Watson or Peter's definitive love interest.

[@JoeyDChosen1]

Dogninja78 that was probably like a little easter egg thing, like a hint that Mary Jane will be coming soon, that doesnt really mean that shes Mary Jane, shes Michelle Jones= MJ for short

[@Dogninja78]

Well who knows for sure dude, we'll find out by the time the next movie comes out. :)

[@JoeyDChosen1]

Dogninja78 yeah and this was a good movie :)

[@Cornberry]

I loved Michelle lol I guess it's just the millennial cynical sass that I related to.

[@kimcontreras3216]

I liked her too. She does my kind of sass. :)

[@joecyr5836]

Anime Fan she annoyed the shit out of me lol mainly the SJW shit. Otherwise she made me chuckle a few times but if I never see her again, I'll be just fine. In fact I'd prefer to not see her again

[@PorthunaxGaming]

Yeah the liberal crap has got to get the hell off my movies.

[@SidPhoenix2211]

I really liked her! And frankly, she could be the Mary Jane MJ or the Michelle Jones MJ, I do not really care whichever direction they go in. Kirsten DUnst's MJ was devoid of pretty much any personality, she was there just to be saved and was a pretty bad person (cheating on her boyfriend with Peter in the first movie, cheating on her fiance with Peter in the second one, and cheating on Peter with Harry in the last one). Quite frankly, if Zendaya's character Michelle really is Mary Jane, I don't mind that. She could be Michelle Jones. I don't care. I guess that we will find out eventually.

[@V.elociraptor]

+Ms Dreadedfate. All of a sudden? She literally spends the entire movie obviously pining after him and following him around.

[@Geznoo]

I thought Zendaya's scenes were great.

[@Tan87ful]

Best AI 01 me too 💯

[@NantesdeAbreu]

They could be cut out and would make zero impact to the plot.

[@Geznoo]

NantesdeAbreu that doesn't change what I said. It was still enjoyable.

[@yozha92]

NantesdeAbreu so?

[@BenDuhTaurus]

Not for me. She’s more of a nerdy, awkwardly girl. That’s the opposite of Mary Jane.

[@SoSickRick]

The Flash in the Tobey movies was a 30 year old no doubt he'd beat up a kid

[@rebelpoxy]

He was a bitch though lol.

[@thebreatho]

Has anyone noticed Betty Brant? She was the young blonde girl in the school news

[@FrozniousShade]

Final Account Most of the story is a nod to the old school comics where betty actually was the same age and goes to school with Peter and likes him at one point

[@Jonman7502]

I kind of like that inclusion imo she should have a bigger role now that Liz Allen is gone.

[@thebreatho]

I think they'll save her as a love interest until Peter is out of high school. When they work at the Bugle. It's nice to know she exist though.

[@FrozniousShade]

Drakerson Honestly outside of what you already know which is they went to school together she had a crush on Peter, and then later she works for the Bugle.. anything else could get into potential spoilers for future movie possibilities or storylines in my opinion

[@FrozniousShade]

Drakerson yeppers

[@transformerdude4251]

A few things: 1. Michelle is MJ, she is NOT MARY JANE THOMPSON, people really need to understand that. 2. It was a science school... for smart people, Flash Thompson from the comics would NOT be there, so they had to change the character.

[@thebreatho]

I loved the movie. The best portrait of Spider-Man.

[@beststonerr]

I think the height of the Washington Monument took a backseat to the fact that its very isolated. Its easy to climb a tall building when if you fall you can web to a nearby building- but since its on its own it probably SEEMS much bigger.

[@captainmarvelous7678]

Ryan Radgoski I dont get why he wouldn't be able to just web back onto the monument itself. its not like he wouldn't have time considering how long a fall that'd be

[@beststonerr]

All I'm saying is its the perception of it all. He's still a kid, not used to such obviously death defying manuevers.

[@SuperSoldierIV]

There was an old Hulkbuster armor on the plane, I wonder if everything was recovered from the crash. Parts of the Hulkbuster armor could be modified for a MCU Rhino?

[@JustJake91]

if they are going to give him a Rhino suit hopefully he at least has powers before the suit unlike TAS2 which was 100% suit

[@jerryhuang7765]

We most likely won't see Rhino. Kevin Feige said that the next villains in the next Spiderman sequels will be villains we haven't seen; scorpion, mysterio, kraven, etc., etc.

[@JustJake91]

Jerry Huang personally hoping for Kraven

[@rebelpoxy]

+Jacob Lowe Well Vulture in the Homecoming film didn't have any powers unlike in the comics, but he still worked as a great villain.

[@JustJake91]

rebelpoxy what powers did vulture have in comics, he was just an inventor in every iteration I've ever seen him in

[@djdixon2009]

The Vulture's identity is Adrian Toomes.

[@DarkVoid9274]

This is my favourite Spider Man movie. I loved all moments in high school with Peter interacting with Ned, Liz, MJ, May and Flash. It just reminded me why I loved Spider Man in the comics. Also I loved the creative fight scene in the movie and how Spider Man was balanced with both the serious side and the comedy side. 9/10

[@NCKS666]

In civil war tony wasn't with pepper anymore, he said it when talking with captain America

[@JustJake91]

"taking a break" I believe was how the movie said it

[@azabdg9]

I guess the MJ was just a name dropp to troll everybody, with all the rumors about zendaya playing Mary Jane before the movie premiere. Remeber they also troll everybody with that capitan america post credit scene XD

[@FM-cp6kc]

I can see why people would be turned off by Michelle being "MJ" as Michelle is a snarky loner bookworm and Comics!Mary Jane is spunky, peppy, and outgoing. But Michelle is DEFINITELY better than Sam Raimi!Mary Jane, who was an indecisive annoying damsel in distress who cheated on 3 dudes. I think Michelle was supposed to be a gender-flipped pre-spiderbite!Peter.

[@katieee1203]

I loved it! Tom Holland did an awesome job as Spiderman. I knew when I first saw him in Civil War I would enjoy watching this kid play Spiderman and I was right. Was so good and it was great to finally see a kid play a kid! I didn't mind Toby Maguire but it was a bit weird watching a nearly 30 year old man portray a kid. Tom Holland is my favorite Spiderman and I hope they stick with him.

[@travvgodbeats3127]

same, as a person who grew up on the Raimi trilogy i can say that Tom Holland provided the best portrayal of the character so far.

[@justarandomveryintelligent8934]

so here's my defense for Michelle mj. if her name isn't even Michelle and it's been Mary Jane the whole time hiding her name is a very very mj thing to do because as a kid she was very obsessed with hiding the pain of her childhood home. if she's hiding that under a fake name that's awesome. also she does share sort of the same personality as ultimate Mary Jane because Mary Jane was very disinterested in anything unless Peter was involved. if she's ultimate Mary Jane Watson I'm fine

[@Kimbrell]

"The Prowler" is who Donald Glover was playing. I think occasionally you guys forget they're sophomores. Of course Flash is smaller and whiny sounding. Senior year? Might be a different story. Both Spider-Man franchises before this movie they were seniors in high school or graduating. Flash has filled out and is more of a physical bully than a mental bully. Also another way they could be taking it is to relate to high schoolers today. Of course you guys and myself know bullies as the physical bullies but today's bullies are definitely more mental based. Aunt May... again... he's a sophomore... so of course she's younger. I didn't enjoy the MJ drop but I don't mind them changing MJ up. Again he's still a sophomore so it's highly likely by he graduates there will be a new love interest. Could very well bring in Mary Jane and he relates to her because of the "MJ" (maybe Michelle dies at some point). Enough quips... didn't need to over do it. He has so much growing to do and will learn so many different things. Like the web launcher, swinging high in Manhattan, etc. Also the Washington monument... yeah he hasn't been that high. Also he had nothing to really save him... like another building or something to swing to. Eric and Calvin seem to get it... everyone keeps comparing it to movies before. But that moment under the rubble... is a huge moment for him. He's growing. He's learning he is the hero. Also like you mentioned... Aunt May mentions his body going through changes. He's Spider-Man when puberty is just starting. When he's older, a senior, a man... he'll develop spidey sense, be stronger, be quippier, be faster with his moves, etc. I think we'll see him more and more since we're approaching phase 4 in MCU. Stark or Cap or both will die soon imo. He'll at some point be an Avenger and become the face of the franchise/Avengers. So in between then and now... he needs to grow, learn, etc.

[@JustJake91]

also want to add that they are at a high end mathematics and science high school not a typical high school, a gifted school isn't likely to have the same Flash bully as normal so they went with a smarter bully who uses the fact that he is rich and popular instead of a jock.

[@holup454]

I think he already has his spider sense though because in civil war there were times where he clearly sensed something coming at him. He sensed when Ant-man was on cap's shield and he sensed when the winter soldier threw the big ass thing behind his back. He said "oh no" or something along that before throwing it back and saying "hey buddy I think you lost this!" Also saying that he's barely starting puberty already seems kinda weird to me because I'm a sophomore and my balls already dropped. I don't think I know anyone who started puberty this late.

[@saamahlouis-jean5413]

Shane.K Great comment, I agree with nearly everything.And the scene where Peter was coming out of the rubble was so good. It made it's point so clear.

[@finalaccount4483]

This movie was extremely fun. Best Spider-Man movie since Spider-Man 2. I'd give it a 7.8/10.

[@joedesoto2397]

You do realize that MJ has a broken family? Didn't you think that that might be the reason she starts out as jaded? Anyway, who says no one can change? MJ transforming from this sarcastic girl to someone hot and famous someday makes for a very good future storyline.

[@tomfou]

In my opinion this was easily the best Spiderman movie ever and best movie this year.

[@gabrielcorbo6663]

"Flash, being fast is not everything" hahahaha

[@richardlaw913]

Gabriel Corbo was that a a shot at the dcu 😂

[@SuperSoldierIV]

I think Vulture was just a ruthless business man, and they tried to keep him distinct from the sociopaths and murderers.

[@Tan87ful]

SuperSoldier IV 💯💯💯💯

[@iceman10129]

Gargen/Scorpion being played by Michael Mando who was Vaas in Far Cry 3 makes me so excited for the character!

[@TreksterPrime]

He has Spider Sense but it wasn't focused as much as the other films. He dodged Vulture's wings.

[@Erik-td9ow]

I thought Liz was a weak character until we found out Vulture was her dad.

[@jowoman7799]

Dammit Aaron!

[@Sabadikul]

A1 profile picture and name

[@thenightmare7333]

WHY HAVE I JUST SEEN THIS XD

[@jakelong312]

This may in fact be my favorite comic movie so far. Absolutely amazing 10/10

[@raptorus7773]

the suit in the end plays the role of the Iron Spider suit, but did anyone else think it looked a little to much like the Superior Spider-Man Suit?

[@isinganddootherthings4616]

Raptorus77 I love how the suit looked with the gold silver black white red blue colour scheme man

[@Darkpoet1792]

This was 100% my Spider-Man. Everything about it was perfect. My Spider-Man growing up was the Ultimate Universe Spider-Man (Peter, and I also loved Miles. I can't wait for them to introduce him and possibly do the Death of Spider-Man story) and this was straight up that. The only thing I didn't care for was Betty Brandt looking like Gwen Stacy but that isn't that important, as long as she ends up at the Daily Bugle (which I feel they're setting up, with her being an anchor). The Vulture was awesome, so was Shocker and I can't wait for The Scorpion. Also yes, he has spider-sense. They didn't showcase it like they've done in the previous movies. Just because they don't have a "Hey, look, this is what Spider-sense is" doesn't mean it's not there. You can see many examples of this with him dodging stuff that he can't see coming. Like in Civil War, when his eyes widened when Bucky threw the car at him. This was a more accurate Flash Thompson. I know you guys aren't used to this version, but it's always been my favorite interpretation of the character, instead of the stereotypical dumb jock guy that beats people up and takes their money.

[@azzu12]

Michelle is definately going to be "MJ" in this universe but not necessarily Mary Jane. I think they made her frumpy looking on purpose so in the next few films she will have an evolution and become super hot because Zendaya is quite beautiful IRL. There's no way they introduced her in this film for 5 minute screen time without her becoming peter's love interest in the films.

[@rebelpoxy]

That bomber jacket you mentioned, and Keaton's bald head in the film gives his character visuals similar to the animal vulture imo. It's not because he's ex-military lmao.

[@SethLordChannel]

Could be wrong, but in Civil War, didn't Tony tell Steve that he and Pepper were on a break? I could be misremembering.

[@ethantyra3111]

I love the scene when he has to run across the golf course. Cause there are times in other spider man movies that he seems to be swinging from nothing. Felt like that was a point that kind of acknowledging that from the previous movies.

[@Miieh12]

The MCU is heavily based on the Ultimate Comics and the Ultimate version of Mary Jane is a intelligent, shy, sarcastic girl who wants to be a jornalist. I'm not saying Michelle Jones is Mary Jane because Kevin Feige has said she is not. But you guys shouldn't expect the MCU's version of MJ to be the extroverted hot redhead model.

[@NONAME-qf6gj]

You should know, they have NOT changed their stance on the Spider-Man spinoff movies. They will not be connected to the MCU, both Feige and Pascal (who was the one confusing things) have confirmed it.

[@timhurlburt4506]

I feel you, Calvin. The homeschool struggle is real.

[@SDLRob]

Yes, that is the same actor... IIRC, he's playing the grandson of the character he played in TFA...

[@925lexi]

"Michelle Jones" aka MJ is just a nod. She's not Mary-Jane Watson. Why can't people seem to get that? Also Peter Parker is younger in this story, so it makes sense that Aunt May would be young too. I like the idea of Flash being just a cliché brawny bully, but someone who "flashes" his money in your face and is just a major douchebag. Flash's license plate said "Flashdrv"(Flash Drive).

[@J_NC_B]

"If you really cared you would be here" 👌🏻 loved that scene 👌🏻

[@dmat606]

1:06:19 thank you Calvin!! I thought I was the only one that caught that. No spoiler talk that I watched has mentioned it.

[@AscendedXSaiyan]

Diwakar Mathur I missed that! I'll have to rewatch it!

[@kchuckles1]

My favorite part was the night of Homecoming, from meeting the parents to getting dropped off I like the comparisons you make to something "classic" but not how you dis something for not being classic. Like MJ, obviously she's not how you want her to look but what about her performance? This new MJ already feels more memorable and like she has more depth than the last to me so im excited to see her development. I bet she wont be a damsel like the old MJ whenever she gets taken. And Flash's bullying shouldn't be classic like beating up and stealing, since bullying in general has been a huge deal the past few years.

[@ZegohsOfZegCrew]

I thought he had the spider-sense, since in Civil War he dodges a sign thrown by Bucky and exclaim's "Oh God!" while his back is still facing it. It makes sense that he hasn't fully developed or learned how to use it, and perhaps he doesn't realize his enhanced intuition is a spider power, but I'm certain that at this point he has some semblance of the spider sense.

[@joedesoto2397]

I think not wanting Zandaya to be MJ just because she doesn't fit the description "redhead" is I think lame. Appearances don't make the character. MJ can still be as close as the comic book character even with different physical features.

[@Tan87ful]

J W 💯💯💯👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽agreed :))

[@kedington5941]

J W agreed and the name Zendaya is the MJ of this universe I like it it's a new version she likes him she alwyas following him around and gave him the middle finger at the dance as signal fuck you you should have asked me out maybe in the 2nd or 3rd she can real her real name is Mary Jane and take off her black hair wig and her natural hair color is red so comic nerds can shut up

[@livinglightning9312]

MJ is a redhead. It is a defining feature of her, a consistent one. It is like having Lois Lane and having her not be a reporter or having a catwoman who is not a cat burglar. Besides Peter refers to her hair often.

[@V.elociraptor]

+Living Lighting Or like having Aunt May be 40 years too young (changing her personality and hair colour). Or like having the Vulture be working class. Or like having Tony be Peter's mentor from the start. Or like giving Vulture a daughter. Or like inventing a character called Ned out of thing air... Oh wait. You're not complaining about all those huge changes are you? Why?

[@danielola-abidoye1365]

V elociraptor Aunt May in this movie isn’t 40 years too young unless aunt May is over 90

[@CabbageDynamite_Lucy]

I thought of Flash as a kind of modern day reimagining of him as nowadays in schools bullying between nerd/geeks and 'jocks' doesn't really happen that much. Bullying happens more within a social group to the person that doesn't like the same things as everyone else. I think the character was done really well. Michelle was my favourite character, she had some of the best lines and i gasped when she revealed herself as MJ. I know it's not Mary Jane but I can't wait to see where they go with the characters. My favourite moment was the Aunt May moment at the end. I laughed threw the credits, it was so funny. Best moment!

[@charlesanda4232]

Nice Review, guys. You just got a new subscriber now. And yes, loved the movie. It wasn't a perfect Spider Man movie but was a perfect adaptation for the MCU. Loved the comedy in it, it had some cool fights and it showed a lot of potential for future installments. Have a legendary day everyone.

[@zehermanator2710]

This is what I want for the next villains in the sequel. 1. Shocker: I don't need much of the shocker and some vengeance story, I think Schultz should be in the movie for one scene like a bank heist at the beginning of the movie and then he's arrested. 2. Scorpion: OBVIOUSLY he's the next villain in the sequel, but I don't think he's the main villain, maybe just a mercenary hunting Spiderman. 3. Kingpin: Now this is a stretch, but this is absolutely positively the thing I WANT. Through the whole movie Kingpin and Spiderman never come face to face, kingpin's still controlling his business and the prison while in prison so in a way this isn't overloading the film with villains. After Avengers tower is sold we find out Wilson Fisk is buying Avengers tower and makes it Fisk tower, this makes sense since Daredevil is pushing him out of Hell's Kitchen and he expands into Manhattan. During the construction of the tower Spiderman notices Fisk's construction and stops Fisk's expansion of business and Fisk is angry so he gets Mac Gargan out of prison like he did the Punisher and hires Mac to kill Spiderman. Through this whole movie Spiderman is being hunted and on the second encounter with scorpion Spiderman is on the verge of death and Daredevil shows up and saves Spiderman. After Gargan flees from the scene Peter asks Daredevil a couple questions like "Who are you, Do you know who I am I mean my identity, and What if I need your help again?" Daredevil replies "I'm just a man trying to rinse out the city I love, No I don't know who you are nor do I want to know either, and If you ever need my help I'm always listening and I have some friends that can help you too." That's it...You don't have to make it a Spiderman and Daredevil film, DD's only gotta be in the movie for one scene that proves the MCU shows and movies ARE indeed connected. AND here's other ways they could introduce the Netflix characters into the MCU Movies via Spiderman 1. Michelle Jones is Jessica Jones Cousin 2. Aunt May hires Jessica Jones to investigate the crime scene involving Uncle Ben and his killer 3. Aunt May finds Ben's killer and sues him with the help of Matt Murdock and/or Foggy Nelson Or even Jeri Hogarth or Foggy's Ex girlfriend (I can't remember her name) 4. Aunt May gets Karate lessons at colleen wing's dojo 5. After Shocker's defeated by Spiderman in homecoming he escapes to Harlem's Paradise 6. Peter meets Karen Page asks her questions about newspaper editing 7. Aunt May works at the same hospital Clair Temple works at Marvel your choice pick one or all and PLEASE DO IT!

[@AllisonWonderland]

She's not Mary-Jane Watson. Her name is Michelle Jones, so her initials just happen to be MJ. She clearly has nothing to do with Mary-Jane, so I don't think people need to worry about her 'changing' a classic character. They don't seem to be putting a new/different spin on Mary-Jane, but rather are creating a completely new character whose name happens to be easter egg!

[@OnePiece2300]

You guys went on a lot of tangents in this video.. I love the parts where you talk about the movie more and how you felt and reacted more. But still.. good video!!

[@flowerpower32]

well sorry but michelle is the MJ of this universe & will have a bigger role in the sequel sorry guys but deal with it

[@captainmarvelous7678]

flowerpower32 no

[@junior20091009]

flowerpower32 No thanks, I still dislike the character/"actress".

[@a.p.5342]

The initials "M.J." aren't exclusive to Mary Jane.

[@rebelpoxy]

Just because she ain't Mary Jane doesn't mean she can't be fucking MJ. Michael Jackson is MJ. Michael Jordan is MJ. Magic Johnson is MJ. It's not exclusive ffs. I don't mind original characters as long as they're done right. Nobody was complaining about Batman's movie-original love interest in the first two Nolan films.

[@celestinebuendia]

Ms Dreadedfate Bro Michelle's had a crush on Peter since the beginning of the movie.

[@woogum10]

I think I get what they're trying to do with the MJ thing, and I'm kind of OK with it-- because this movie takes so much inspiration from cheesy highschool stuff like John Huges films, this MJ might be set up as the weird outcast love interest to contrast with a popular beauty love interest in the sequel. Playing out the popular girl vs. weird friend romantic conflict. But because MJ hardly interacts with Peter and because she's pretty much just a comic relief character in this film, it makes me kind of worried whether Zendaya will have good chemistry with Holland in the future when their romance blossoms.

[@Sarahluzbsb]

I like this version of MJ.

[@jfr450]

I wonder if he'll throw more punches when his combat is improved by more experience.

[@Ghost8386]

I'm glad Vulture didn't die.

[@the02flash64]

I found the reveal of M.J astonishing ! It's good to see new things, to diversify. I prefer Zendaya than Kirsten Dunst ! She's the M.J of the M.C.U

[@the02flash64]

Plus everyone critics actors before they see them on screen, like with Ben Affleck/Batman, Tom Holland/Spider-Man, so wait and see

[@the02flash64]

And we're talking about fucking Marvel, I'm sure they know what they're doing!

[@Arkatox]

1. In the discussion about whether or not Vulture is a killer, I feel like Aaron kept misunderstanding what Shane was trying to say. 2. Flash was reinterpreted as a more believable, modern-day kind of bully. I liked it. I'd take it over the old bully stereotype any day. 3. I really enjoyed Michelle all throughout the film. I liked all of the humor surrounding her character. The MJ "reveal" was a little off-putting, but I don't particularly have a problem with it. 4. Your reaction to this reinterpretation of Aunt May (which I agree with) is how I feel about Flash. I might edit this comment as I continue watching and have more thoughts about what you say.

[@Phanthief95]

10:13 I was kinda disappointed they didn't even put a reference to the Netflix heroes. Even something small like a newspaper article on the Devil of Hell's Kitchen or Harlem's Hero or the return of Danny Rand or the People vs. Frank Castle or even an ad for Alias Investigatons. These guys are street level like Peter & live in the same city as him. Plus, it would've been good for Marvel's marketing since Defenders comes out next month.

[@finalaccount4483]

They sort of did when they were talking about certain things being below the Avengers pay grade.

[@joshiemike6690]

i think uncle ben died in the battle of new york

[@emma0634]

No, it was recently (after Peter got his powers). The Battle of New York happened 8 years before the events in this movie.

[@TheIpodMan32]

Emma063 it actually happened 4 years and some change before this movie. The movie saying 8 years later is an error. This is a few months after civil war, which took place in 2016. Battle of New York took place in 2012. Tony Stark became Iron Man in 2008 so they mistakenly used that date. Guarantee it’ll be fixed On the blue ray

[@joecyr5836]

Nick Segallis no Avengers 1 came out in 2012 but was set in 2009-10

[@psyionic8595]

For the Spiderman movies, it was only Maguire's movies that killed the villain. In the Amazing Spiderman, Lizard was incarcerated, Harry was also incarcerated, and Electro's body was just destabilized slated for a return in the future.

[@KOFNY]

The character Donald Glover plays is Aaron David the Prowler. He's the Ultimate version of the prowler

[@kgbromero]

Just realized that the guy that Peter was interrogating, whom later ended up webbing his hand to the trunk of his car, is Aaron Davis, who later on becomes Prowler (Ultimate Marvel incarnation). He also mentioned to Peter that he has a nephew living in Queens. In the comics, his nephew is........MILES MORALES!!!

[@Fuzzyplatypus]

This Spider-man definitely does have spider-sense. You'll notice it a lot if you pay attention during this movie but the most obvious demonstration is in Civil War when Ant-Man is on Cap's shield, when Ant Man is getting ready to strike, Spider-man looks at the shield and starts to say "Hey guys, there's something..." and there's really no other way he would have said that if not for spidersense

[@yatharthgerangal2666]

The ending was so awesome

[@eawhite782]

There's a scene in Civil War where Spider-Man's spidey sense is seen. At 01:32:48 into the movie, you see his eyes get bigger and he says "Oh god!" before dodging something that Bucky threw at him, that he didn't see coming. So he already has it, but it's probably not fully developed yet.

[@Specter017]

Kenneth Choi played Principal Morita in Spiderman Homecoming. He also played the Howling Commando Jim Morita in Captain America The First Avenger. it was confirmed by Marvel that Principal Morita is his grandson.

[@Phanthief95]

47:36 It's Prowler.

[@theponyisday]

BROOO THE CLAVIN NOTEBOOKS AT THE END.... I CAN'T 😂😂😂😭😭😭

[@eternalposer1955]

Two favorite parts... Spidey face planting on the roof coming out of that swing. I Fucking died. And that trapped under the rubble scene. Brilliant.

[@Sylvia341]

I agree with not liking the flash in the movie but Zendaya I like as MJ if that's who the movie ppl want her to be.Just because she black and doesn't have red doesn't mean anything, in the flash tv show they an African american kid flash instead of the origninal white guy with red hair i think ya'll need to be open minded with new version of these charecters

[@Tan87ful]

Sylvia Gladney Well it doesn't matter if Zendaya's character had red hair because she isn't playing Mary Jane Watson. I do say that if she was Mary Jane, she would need to be rocking a red wig or a red weave. They could make a joke out of it and have someone ask her about her hair and have her say that she wanted a change or something to express herself. U can't sell to me and to the rest of the audience that Zendaya is Mary Jane and have her not with red hair. I like this Michelle character and it would be cool if they could add her to the comics.

[@Sylvia341]

Nella J i understand what your saying but in the video they were talking about they basically couldn't picture her being mary jane unless she had red hair. and i never said she was mary jane i said if the people who make the movies wanted zendaya to be her theres nothing nobody can do because its their movie and if they dnt want her to be a red head just because mary jane was in the comics and tv show and the original spider man movie they dnt have too and like i said b4 to me its not a bad idea if they are doing a new version of the character and starting her as just a friend then something more than just a hot chick with red hair and most likely white that's all

[@cian.crank1]

I'd prefer her being her own character not Mary Jane . Maybe just Michelle not MJ

[@magikvmc]

YES!!! Someone finally mentions the Howling Commando Easter Egg!!!! It was the same actor, his name is Kenneth Choi and he played Jim Morita in CA: TFA and showed up on Agents of Shield. He playes Principle Morita in this movie and there are pictures of his Howling Commando character in his office.

[@Sunkcostfallecy]

They didn't know how much they were gonna love Zendaya.

[@PorthunaxGaming]

Hey btw, I may have been the only one to see it ever, but there was a scene where a guy fired his pistol and Spidey webbed the barrel after it was fired, but before it came from the chamber...Spider Sense...

[@AllisonWonderland]

Tony and Steve talk about Tony and Pepper 'taking a break'/breaking up in Civil War when they are at the CIA headquarters in Bucharest. So, her absence is basically explained in that scene.

[@judemiller]

I'm pretty sure they showed his spidey-sense in Civil War when Stark threw his web cannister at him in his room and he caught it without looking.

[@maxwellderpherp6579]

I think the fact of throwing in all the gadgets were their because of "If your nothing without the suit, than you shoulnt have it at all" This is why the whole rubble scene made sense. He beat the villain with just his own suit and no gadgets. Also he has spider sense. He used it in the bank, he used it in Civil War.

[@jordanlewis8325]

just come back from watching this in 4DX it was so good

[@chichi415frisco1]

Him changing to the spider man suit was for some reason my favorite.

[@boiledcrap]

You know how the net pairs Cap and Tony as Peter's father figures? I find it kinda funny that in the movie, Cap is the phone in dad while Tony is the responsible, protective dad. He puts restrictions on his suit, tracks it, records his actions, and equips the suit with a ridiculous number of abilities for protection.

[@cheezNood]

9:25 😭😭

[@aaronconner7480]

Glover's street name was Prowler. And something I noticed that many didn't was that the girl in the school broadcast Betty is also a love interest of Spider-Man in the comic series.

[@Ez_mani06]

So can we all agree that the press conference that tony was holding was the comic book Spidey civil war reveal

[@billygnosis8820]

Toomes is more of a pragmatic, Walter White kind of villain. He'll cap you if he has to, but he also has an honor code.