Stages of Post Production for Filmmaking in Cinema

[@wolfcrow]

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[@alanstandsalone2802]

This is the BEST explanation of the cinema workflow/pipeline I have found on KZbin. Thank you for sharing your incredible knowledge with us all.

[@navneetrout8193]

This video is just a Gold mine for filmmakers. I've never seen this much detailed video on Post Production ever. It's like a every single step guide. I'm so happy that you exist on KZbin and made it.

[@Ben_Howard]

Small correction. Sound design (ADR, SFX & Foley) always comes after motion graphics & VFX. The music is done in conjunction with edit.

[@AxTechs]

This depends heavily on the movie/show - if they have the money they'll do it in conjunction with the edit, if they don't, they'll most likely be separated

[@Champagneyear]

Can you tell me more?

[@tomandre7285]

Amazing video. Very helpful for someone trying to learn more about the various stages of post. You just earned a subscriber!

[@wolfcrow]

Thanks!

[@arjundhugga93]

This is amazing! Keep up the good work Wolfcrow!

[@wolfcrow]

Thanks!

[@danielappiah-adjei5812]

I work in digital advertising in Ghana (Africa) and I have been wondering how the process works for years now. I even asked my boss for a training on this. thank you very much.. Some parts went over my head but I will watch it again. thank you very much

[@wolfcrow]

You're welcome!

[@editorkmanikhemmusicprod]

This is the BEST explanation of the cinema workflow/pipeline I have found on KZbin. Thank you for sharing your incredible knowledge with us all THANK YOU FOR THIS!!!!!!

[@therobertburton1969]

The best video I have ever seen of the overall editing process. Incredible Job!

[@caspertronstad6549]

God how I love videos that get straight to the point. Great stuff.

[@justuslowry]

You create such exceptional videos! They are extremely helpful and easy to follow. Thank you very much!

[@wolfcrow]

You're welcome!

[@Soulspeaktripledeek]

This is the most useful video about this process on the entire internet. You're a great teacher.

[@laceyproductions9236]

Spent months looking for this answer and you have nailed it, well done

[@arunthomas189]

Whoa! I was just thinking about this process and how Hollywood or Bollywood renders the movie...now I know there is much more to that! Thanks for this video!.

[@wolfcrow]

You're welcome!

[@guidelinedesigns593]

best and detailed video on the whole internet amazing job good for learning

[@raularaujostrw]

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[@ambarishsn002]

Very very well documented video. I guess has to be one of the best to ever explain all the phases of post production. Hats off to the author for putting this up. Gained a lot of information. Cheers.

[@strangecasa3783]

Such a "boring" yet interesting, informative and important video. I learned a lot and it was very helpful, but my partner left the room. Where she usually stays and watches. Thanks again for tackling the technical as well.

[@0374studio]

Step by step, clear and easy flow explanation of such a complex procedures on post prod. Great!

[@monish929]

Wow it was so amazing, I have never been explained this detailed, thankyou fo sharing your knowledge really appreciate that . Never knew there were so many video and audio format conversions required for different environment.

[@abhilashm7977]

Resolve has come a long way in just 4 Years. Nice content, Appreciate the Help. Thanks!

[@fotouhi]

Excellent as always! I have learnt a lot from your videos. I have a request: Could you please make seperate videos about each individual box in your chart (e.g. Visual Effects, Mastering)? I understand one cannot master all trades, but I am sure your subscribers would benefit when you share your knowledge about different aspects of post processing from a high level. Keep up the good work!

[@wolfcrow]

Thank you, I'll try to make more detailed videos!

[@LachFlex]

Excellent and thorough summary, thank you

[@0u0ak]

This is a really nice summary. Well done.

[@RokhmatullahJulyanto]

21:08 "...or somebody sneeze during a take..." killed me

[@tinnick]

Such an amazing overview. Thank you so much.

[@wolfcrow]

You’re welcome!

[@tirthankarsaha6961]

Wolfcrow thanks for this video , essential stages for people being involved with post production works . Please make a video on audio syncing for cinema because many people get confused with term Line Up .

[@wolfcrow]

You're welcome!

[@ashishnodiya4900]

It's an amazing analysis of post-production stage. Thanks for making such a wonderful video and keep it up.

[@ArjunRoy5]

This is something I have always wanted to know! Thank you so much!

[@wolfcrow]

You're welcome!

[@DavidRFIT]

Very nice video as always. Why don't you make an in-depth video like this about all the different jobs in the industry? For example... not many people know exactly what a producer is, or what's the difference from a producer and an exectuive producer. Or what's a script supervisor, a production runner... And I bet most people don't even know precisely what a DP does...

[@wolfcrow]

Good idea!

[@jeezymclovin2215]

you tryna tell my mans here what to do?!

[@rakeshraut3757]

I like your style of presentation. please do it as early as possible. I am waiting...

[@womensurbandefense2857]

David RF yes yes, please gawd do

[@ronyt2306]

thumbs up for the suggestion.

[@Left_it]

rapidly the delivery for broadcast is becoming DS11 which is an MXF file with metadata although some broadcasters still want HDCAM or SR

[@wolfcrow]

Thanks!

[@Khatigaurav]

I think this is the best video I have come across about the post-production workflow. Please make a video on the various aspect ratios used to shoot the film. Also I am curious to know how 'The Grand Budapest Hotel' was shot with various aspect ratios and its post-production workflow to get the final output.

[@wolfcrow]

Thanks!

[@SimplyInfo9]

Simply Superb. Best video on post production workflow. Plz make more videos. Thanks.

[@raamsankarkimidi6199]

Thank you for the information and very helpful video

[@abdokattab]

First of all thank you very much for this video and everything else you post, you are always my number one go to when i need to understand something about workflows. Second I want to ask you about ACES the new color management system and where and how it would fit into this workflow. Thank you

[@wolfcrow]

You're welcome! ACES would form part of the grading process.

[@trumanhw]

OUTSTANDING. I would have loved to have known what some of the hardware in FACT were -- (examples of actual "Hero Boxes") and the specs of DCI, but, I'll enjoy researching it on my own. Thank you very much. Best video I've been able to find explaining this to me.

[@dinosaurfilms7425]

10 outta 10.

[@martialartsgreatness]

This is an outstanding tutorial!!! Thank you so much!!!!

[@firstframes]

Amazing work. expecting more video like this. Thank you wolf crow

[@wolfcrow]

You're welcome!

[@CandymanJrMint]

Thorough! Thank you for the information and all the technical breakdown

[@wolfcrow]

You're welcome!

[@tommydejosiafilms]

This is amazing. Thank you for this!

[@MrBiswas123]

thank you for putting everything in a nutshell !!

[@wolfcrow]

Rudra Biswas You're welcome!

[@srinathnalika4027]

Please make video on same topic considering today's film postproduction scenario. It will be helpful and much needed for young filmmakers like me. We can plan equipment and softwares considering total process till mastering end.

[@mychalsimmons4177]

Man That was more than AWESOME that was incredible.

[@shubhamthakur7816]

Fantastically explained, thankyou sir

[@resonanceytv]

informative, preventative, inspirational! huge thank you, also curious about different jobs in the industry,looking forward to future vids. greetings from beijing

[@wolfcrow]

You're welcome!

[@CMNProducer]

Thank you for posting this. Very well done and very helpful.

[@wolfcrow]

You're welcome!

[@crooksandcrafts3262]

This is exactly what I needed! Thank you!

[@wolfcrow]

You're welcome!

[@Beepthe]

good material. Seems complex. Thanks for explaining it. I have a better understanding when dealing with "film".

[@wolfcrow]

You're welcome!

[@dogusozel7360]

***Correction*** Best Editing Software : Avid Media Composer Best Motion Graphics Software : Autodesk Flame or Nuke Studio. Best Color Grading Software : Davinci Resolve or Baselight Premiere Pro & After Effects are rarely used alongside the professional workflow.

[@sachamht]

Not true, adobe products are used everywhere, less than avid but better integrated together. Mindhunter was edited with premiere, and vfx were done in ae, Walter murphy now uses premiere all the time for example. Avid products were just here before, it's the same with protools and Sibelius, doesn't mean they're objectively better

[@joshpritt2146]

I love the motion graphics part

[@aspirestudios8167]

Great vid and explicit explanation!

[@mrdhiraj789]

Great video, Pls make a video on pre production and production stages also..

[@UnrealAaron94]

Concise and simple, great video!

[@wolfcrow]

Thanks!

[@Avidcomp]

I would recommend Fusion over After Effects. Once you've got used to a node based graphics application, a layer based one feels clumsy. But you'd have to get used to a node based yourself to make that call.

[@wolfcrow]

I've used Nuke, so I prefer that. There is no replacement for After Effects.

[@Avidcomp]

wolfcrow Personal preference is always what counts. But what do you prefer most about AE; If AE was no more and you had to use Nuke/Fusion, what would you miss the most? p.s. Another great presentation. Thank you.

[@wolfcrow]

You're welcome! Nuke/Fusion are different packages. AE is primarily a motion graphics platform, and in that respect there's no replacement for it - or at least at Adobe CC rates. Autodesk Flame is definitely an option, but still people use AE with it. AE is the Photoshop of the video world. Can't imagine a world without it!

[@Avidcomp]

wolfcrow The whole PCMAC debate passed me by years ago. I was using Parallax's Matador (paint/layer) which became illusion (bought later by Avid) all running on SGi hardware. So by the time AE came along, I was happy with my Avid Media illusion... then I moved across to Eyeon's Fusion as I was now used to node based compositors. I made many tv titles and did compositing jobs. By the time AE was "the thing", I couldn't find any operators to show me something I couldn't already do... so I never really spent much time with it. When I finally did start playing with AE... I just kept cursing it. Love Photoshop. Suddenly ill informed production managers started asking if I used After Effects (because that's all they'd learned to say), so I started seeing some jobs go away (but they always had poor budgets). Any client worth their sort didn't care what I used, they just wanted someone they could trust. Sadly those types of clients are becoming rare. Colleges began pumping out AE users and now the market is over-saturated and "clients" want it all done yesterday, for nothing. Glad I'm out of it really. Today I love the camera and editing. How's that sir? :)

[@wolfcrow]

Can't complain!

[@ahankarkamble2534]

Thanks brother for this... Can you please make video on pre productions as well

[@kissmyasthma3155]

Excellent video very informative. I was also wondering can you do a similar video showing the stages of how filmmakers decide the look of the film in pre-production? This can include story boarding, pre-visualisation, location scouting etc. Thanks

[@wolfcrow]

Thanks, sure!

[@ljubagrishkina9331]

Man, you are rocking!!! Thanks

[@vsdifer2]

thank you!) explanetion is great!) was looking for such a video for a while.

[@kazisaud]

Excellent, in-depth informative to the point video.

[@wolfcrow]

Thank you!

[@alreview262]

Your videos are amazing as always, thanks.

[@studio500]

Best tutorial video ever. Thank you!!

[@zeebs101]

Thank you!! This is great man.

[@neojohns2487]

1. So, on mastering stage we will be having a video file(without Audio) and the Audio file. 2. Then on delivery stage video and the Audio will stitched together to create the final Master file. The actual product which is sell-able?( could you please tell the different format of this sell-able file. 3. What is the process to create multiple copies of the final product.(which finally someone will be able to distribute amongst the Theatres. 4. How a finish product will be available to distributed amongst the movie theatre.

[@sangramkale3243]

Good information and explanation.

[@pratiksarkar198]

Hey, Wolfcrow could you be able to make a video on how the post-production workflow in cinema in case of all software to software. Basically, what I am trying to say is a round-trip among the software that is involved in making a film possible. Which software is used when and for what purpose? It would be better if you can make a video saying briefly about all the software present in the market and when and which purpose they serve for!! If you can make a video on that topic then it would be very helpful, but in case if you cannot make it please write a blog saying about those things! I would get information from there too as I follow your blogs as well!! Please reply back!

[@KishorRajmohan]

I have recently started to watch your videos, it is awesome, sticks to the point and very informative, please do a module related with pre-production process and the actual shooting nitty-gritty,,

[@wolfcrow]

Thanks, sure!

[@fmh357]

Thank You, I truoly enjoyed watching this. God Bless.

[@AndyBobMcKee]

Great video. There was just a little bit at the beginning where it kinda sounded like you said you should rename video files. I don't think you meant that, but can I just say to anyone who watches this, please DO NOT rename original media files from the camera unless you absolutely have to because you have ended up with multiple files of the same name. Import into your editing application first and rename it in there to something more useful than A023C041 (or whatever your camera creates), the original file at the computer level will be left as its original name. This is very important for the Online/Conform. On a similar note, do not strip original media out of the seemingly bizarre folder structure that some cameras create. These folders contain key metadata that some software uses to interpret the footage correctly.

[@wolfcrow]

Thanks. Most people are too lazy to name clips correctly in production. Sometimes you have multiple clips with the same name. Also, whatever name-change you make in the NLE is not carried over in XML (afaik). And if you revisit these clips at a future date it's a total waste of time to go through everything to find one clip. If responsible and organized individuals name clips correctly, it isn't an issue.

[@AndyBobMcKee]

wolfcrow If only all editors were responsible and organised individuals. :-) As someone who has colour graded a lot of different editors work, the biggest problems I've had with conforms has been when editors have renamed files or stripped files from their correct folder structures. It is sometimes necessary, I admit, but it's not something that should be done as routine and it is not something that is done on professional productions.

[@wolfcrow]

Thanks for the insight!

[@mcneilbelle]

DaVinci resolve is hero box now would you say or no it’s not just would like to hear an update Awsome video man

[@stickwithit]

This is awesome! thank you!

[@maxbootstrap7397]

Great video! You omitted "voice over" (as in "narration" during the film). But also, it seems to me that the best films (with the clearest, easiest to understand voices and speech) have the actors come into a sound studio at some point, and repeat their dialog into one or more microphones as they watch themselves speak the dialog on the film. Frankly, this seems like the best approach (certainly highest quality), though somehow some people do manage to create very clear voice audio from recordings at the time of the shoot. Anyway, where would you put these steps into your flow-chart? PS: What would make this even better is a list somewhere of what software can accomplish each step. For example, can DaVinci Resolve reasonably perform all editing and grading? The point of this would be for people to look at which software can perform each step, and then choose which software applications to buy to have all the steps covered. Note: In my case I'm trying to do as much as possible on my Linux/Threadripper/1080ti system, but I also have a Windoze system on my LAN for whatever steps don't have good [enough] applications for Linux. It really would be great to have a list of all software that can perform each step.

[@vtk_jnr]

This is a pot of gold.

[@vangaakkireddy4223]

So nice coaching about film super master class hatsoff

[@Eclipse240]

5 years passed. I have started learning PP + AE and also Davinci + Fusion. In the video you said that fusion is not working so well, but has this change? What of these 2 schould i stick to and improve?

[@cop_27]

Thank you

[@wolfcrow]

You're welcome

[@brian_el]

Suddenly this is in my recommendation

[@ApertureWork]

Good work.. Appreciate it big time

[@haddonhousefilms]

Conforming is easier done than said if you use davinci for editing and color grading. Heck I've been using davinci for everything lately. Including vfx.

[@JAMBI..]

Judt what I need. Thanks for the video.

[@zofimproduction1702]

One of the best i ever watch

[@mr_vky]

Thank you so much. It was very helpful

[@JeyakanthanNitharsan2]

thank you so much sir its a Wonderfull explanation

[@1shredcat]

Great video. Thanks for posting!

[@jarrodf_]

Excellent video

[@ConstantThrowing]

Which part of this would be considered the 'online edit'? Is that the conform and grading? Like how much of the finishing and VFX comes under the umbrella of 'online edit'?

[@NikhilManohar-Live]

Super helpful. Thank you very much Sareesh bhai :)

[@wolfcrow]

You're welcome!

[@shankarrammurthy8724]

wow. thank you so much, you just have cleared all my confusions about post production in just 30 mnts video. nobody explained like this to me before. its amazing.

[@wolfcrow]

You're welcome!

[@joshchristiansen9602]

Awesome insight! Thank you!

[@wolfcrow]

You're welcome!

[@funnymanni25]

Can we have a practical lessons on how to make a schedulinh sheet call sheet n scripting break down n ad films script format plz?

[@matthewatkins1252]

This is great, thanks!

[@wolfcrow]

You're welcome!

[@Musiquedecor]

thank you for your content

[@wolfcrow]

You're welcome!

[@MrGamerChoi]

Hey, wolfcrow I'm not sure did miss that part but you have mentioned that you prefer finish the CGI/VFbefore color grading. Let's say I want to add a simple box 3D model into that clip and it was shot on RAW/LOG, how can the VFX artist know which color to use cause it looks flat? Maybe editor / color artist should color correct it into some kind of standard like Rec 709 / ACES in the first place ? After all these, color artist could do the final touch/ creative grade? Thank you!

[@ThijsGoedegebuure]

I was thinking the exact same thing! Not sure how this works.

[@mudaralnasar3182]

This is exactly why i searched for post production stages

[@darjivishal9047]

You got the ans.yet ???

[@MrGamerChoi]

Ok guys. For whoever is still interested in this question and answer, I am here to giving yall the answer after 3 years. A little background of myself: After this video, I was hired as digital compositor in the Movie industry. What I am saying here might not reflect all workflows in different area of the industry. I can only give you the perspective from post production standpoint. 1.The industry basically works like this: DP shoots footage in either RAW or Log format (depending on the budget and preferences). 2. Production studio converts the Raw/Log footage into an "industrial format" called OpenEXR and from my understanding, all OpenEXR embeds linear colorspace in it (which is the "washed out" look you see from linearized footage). 3.When our (Post production) studio received footage (aka image sequence) from them. We then deliver them to different artist for different purposes (e.g: Movematching, compositing, lighting...etc) 4. Depending on which position you are in and what software you use. All software are configured by using OCIO. Take myself as an example: My Nuke would be configured with OCIO and whenever an image sequence is feed to my Nuke. It will work in an OCIO environment but you will see a Rec709/ Srgb Lut applied / corrected footage on you screen. 5. You work your tasks in an linearized environment. Meaning all of your other materials that have different colorspce have to be converted to linear first and then work in a OCIO environment. 6. After you have done your tasks, you will have to export your task to OpenEXR (Linear) 7. After delivering it back to Production studio, they will decide what colorspace they want to deliver to different platform. For example: They would want to convert the linear footage into Rec709 for broadcasting on TV or Srgb for internet streaming or Rec2020 for Blue-ray. You get the idea. Conclusion: "Colorspace" basically has no part in the production process rather they play a big role in which platform the footage will be on and giving out the best viewing experience with "optimized" colorspace the platform needs. I hope my explaining makes sense lol.

[@helmihnr]

Superb! Thanks for the informations!

[@wolfcrow]

You're welcome!

[@mydharohar]

Every word is informative...thanks

[@pratiksarkar198]

This video was really very very informative but because of this video, a burning query just struck to my mind that what if you could make a detailed video explaining the post-production process happens in VFX studio houses. I am very interested in knowing how the post-production work/ pipeline is followed in different VFX studios if not all major studios then at least one well-reputated VFX studios explanation is highly appreciated. How many artists do they have? how many artists do they have for specific software and what are their primary role? Which render engine do they use?

[@shankarrammurthy8724]

what about fcpx...? isn't it good for cinema?

[@darshithchidanand9292]

Pre production and post production blueprint plzz

[@ryanjafri8681]

Great video!

[@suhasvarma5226]

Love with this video ! ❤️