Stand Up For Single Length Irons | Challenge to Rick Shiels, Peter Finch and more

[@blackceeser]

I've noticed the same thing but didn't let them change my mind.

[@Golfingagent23]

I agree also. I switched to Single Length and it took me a few months to really start understanding how to play them. Mine are 8iron length and I’m now hitting my 5iron 210yards when that used to be a hybrid or even a wood. These irons have changed my game dramatically. 1 simple swing 4-GW makes the game so much more enjoyable.

[@claypro5046]

What brand of irons are you using

[@pigeontowedprivileged967]

After I bought my Pinemeadow single length irons, I found your channel. Obviously, you draw the single length audience to your content. It is a small world though, as I also live in the Pittsburgh area.

[@Mornerudmangolf]

I bought myself the cobra Radspeed single length 5 hybrid! Best decision I've ever made! I'm saving up to buy the 3 hybrid Radspeed single length as well. I don't play single length irons simply because my custom clubs is a half inch shorter than normal and I don't bag 5 iron and lower. My 6 iron is 37" so it's short and it makes the game easier for myself. I love your video and you are 100% correct, those guys don't give them a true test to see the benefit it can bring to new or even struggling golfers! Let's face it golf is hard, so why does anyone want to play a 38" 5 iron but they hit their 8 iron longer than the 5! Like you said golf smarter not harder! I love the one length hybrid and it helped my game significantly! Can't wait to purchase the 3 hybrid! My handicap will come down soon! Let's hope the youtube coaches take up the challenge!

[@SimplifyYourSwing]

Thanks for the kind words. Glad you’ve seen some of the benefits, even though you are building a combo set. All companies will cut to the length you’re comfortable with if you ever decide to complete the bag.

[@villarrealmarta6103]

I also want to say that having your channel (however small vs. the other guys it is) is definitely benefiting the single length iron concept. Thanks for doing it.

[@SimplifyYourSwing]

Thank you!

[@SimplifyYourSwing]

I also am pretty sure that certain companies I’ve been fortunate enough to work with are happy with the bump in sales they have seen. I know 2 for certain are back ordered, lol.

[@Midway47]

I agree with everything said. I tried SL this year. Bone straight for the first time in my 70 years. You have to try them if you are a mid handicapper. They are the future.

[@peterwilton6686]

I brought Cobra F-Max one length irons about 6 months ago and my game has improved so much. Changing to one-length clubs has been the best move I have made to improve my golf game. Keep doing what your doing. You have helped me also to play better with my one length clubs.

[@SimplifyYourSwing]

Thanks Peter! Great to hear and best of luck.

[@traessportsmedia643]

Awesome Vid. I'm in 100% Agreement with you.

[@SimplifyYourSwing]

Thank you

[@traessportsmedia643]

@@SimplifyYourSwing golf is already hard enough to play as it is. I just don't understand why people do not want to eliminate as many variables as possible to make the game easier. I guess it just all goes down to marketing and deceiving the masses. Keep up the good work. I appreciate you, your channel and what you're trying to do to grow the single length concept. 👊🏿👊🏿

[@dabdias]

Completely agreed that Golftec’s video about single length iron was disgusting. I have the EQ1-NX Wishon golf clubs but I don’t like that it’s so hard to get custom shafts. In my opinion best single length iro video review is the one by TXG using the sterling irons - that’s the vide that leaves me wondering why not more people play single length. The Cobras single length irons didn’t perform well at all for TXG.

[@christophergreen6093]

Txg was completely fair with their review. Honest review about when to add hybrids into your bag.

[@chrisjuhl801]

I have been playing Pinhawk SL irons for 2+ years. Best golf investment I ever made. The value that needs to be pushed is to help the high handicappers.

[@SimplifyYourSwing]

There’s definitely a lot of benefit for high handicappers and new golfers. But I think if everyone gave it a month, regardless of handicap, then 85-90 percent would see improvement

[@saltydog1311]

Sooo true what you mentioned. I bought an excellent used set, like new from Gigagolf for about $100 to try the concept out. Best $100 l ever spent! Man, what a game changer for me. I felt I have improved 1000% The guys I golf with laughed and made fun of me. Called me desperate, and why was I falling for gimmicks etc...then I beat their butts!! Said it was luck, blah blah blah. Beat them again. Now they are interested, and one of them is actually looking into buying a Cobra set after explaining that there are other brands out there. For now, I am happy with these economical Gigagolf clubs. At least for me they seem to be working well. Thanks for being a single size golf club advocate, because I surely have become one. Keep those great videos coming, and thanks again 👍.

[@SimplifyYourSwing]

Thanks. Glad you found they are helping you out and best of luck!

[@dandunne-d5b]

Great topic! I’m in PGH as well and play both one and variable length clubs. I think that changing sets now and then helps you feel the weight of the club head and square the face better.

[@SimplifyYourSwing]

Thank you. Always nice to find some guys locally that believe in the concept as well. Perhaps we can meet up and play a round one day!

[@dandunne-d5b]

@@SimplifyYourSwing definitely man! I still can’t believe when other golfers ask what clubs I play and they have no clue what one lengths are then they say oh what Bryan plays. If young new or senior golfers actually new how playing one length would benefit them.

[@metalheads-golf]

Well your statement "when Bryson leaves Cobra they will stop with producing them" that is and will be an interesting point that we have to wait and see. As you know ... I'm a vivid one length promotor in concept and in practice ... I'm hoping that there will be some upcoming players that have picked this up from the get go. We will see what the future will bring. If there would not be a market for these irons I would be really sad and disappointed for sure. 🤘🏻😎🤘🏻

[@SimplifyYourSwing]

I know of some high-level amateurs that are playing them with a good shot of turning pro…so it’s in good shape.

[@metalheads-golf]

@@SimplifyYourSwing 🤘🏻😎🤘🏻

[@claypro5046]

Dude I know exactly what your saying. I went and bought cobra one length speedzone and I hit it straight 8 times out 10. I went to my country club to show them off and everyone straight shit on single length. So I switched back to my mizuno mp20. Today I went to try out my single lengths at the driving range today and once again they went straight 8 out of 10. At this point fucc it single lengths it is...

[@SimplifyYourSwing]

Forget the haters! Do what’s best for you! Sounds it’s Single Length

[@claypro5046]

@@SimplifyYourSwing 😃 exactly... it's like their mad that I don't want to be like them

[@SimplifyYourSwing]

Bingo!

[@ArielPronouncedREL]

I think the way for someone like Rick or Pete to create content with single length is getting them to take a newer player and put the single length irons in their bag and seeing what kind of improvement they can make

[@SimplifyYourSwing]

I couldn’t agree more. I just don’t think that’s something that they would consider at this point. I believe James Robinson did something similar a while back, but it was a “here they are, let’s play 9” type of deal. Not much work or training on them.

[@kourt2469]

I've been back and forth with them. Played one length sterlings for 5 years My main concern is there aren't many options of one length. Not many better player iron designs for one length. My best score with 1 length was 63. Last year played traditional irons and shot the course record with a 62 twice. With conventional length irons I felt like my best days were slightly better than my best days with one length. On the flip side my off days weren't nearly as off with single length. Just can't decide what to do.

[@SimplifyYourSwing]

I think you have extremely valid points, and I agree with just about everything you say. At your skill level, playing both so well, the misses are lessened with SL. For the higher handicaps though, there’s such an upside to having consistency with setups that can they can really see improvement quicker.

[@erickbauer8888]

I got a set of Calloway knockoffs from a club builder on line. Liked them but I took the leap a couple weeks ago and ordered Cobra Rad Speed one length irons. Going crazy waiting to receive them.

[@SimplifyYourSwing]

Welcome to the club!

[@erickbauer8888]

I went to single length after five back surgeries, low back. I had been completely out of game because of my back. Single length allowed me to get back in the game.

[@SimplifyYourSwing]

That’s awesome to hear! Glad to have you back in the game

[@gazdavies5581]

Hi. At last! I found a single-length KZbinr that I can relate to. Just ordered a set of SL Cobra F8 irons. I recently took up golf again after 15 years out, I'm 55. At best I was off 15 back then. The only irons I had in my bag bag then was 6 to PW. The 6 I avoided. I then had 9W, 7W, 5W, driver. Imagine my gapping. 😂 Since moving to Finland, I have started again. I couldn't hit a ball. Started off on 54 back in May and ended early October on 29. My bag has formed into a similar set up that I used to play. For years before, I was constantly asking golfing friends 'why the hell aren't irons all the same length?' I always got laughed at. Jump forward and I'm back into golf. Then I heard about SL! I scoured YT for some of the guys you mention here to do a fair video on single length...all I could find was negative end results or final opinions. This video plus your other one where you blindly chose an iron at a time and hit 10 or 15 from the same position, stance, swing, is the first thing I am going to do. I have NO DOUBT in my mind I will FINALLY have an iron game! Thank you! 👍

[@SimplifyYourSwing]

Thank you for the support, and I’m happy you’ve found my videos helpful. One of the hardest things is going against the norm and ignoring the ones that say it’s a bad idea. Stick with it and groove in a swing and the scores will continue to drop. I’m working on some updated vids on SL and hope to have them out soon. If you ever need anything, don’t hesitate to shoot me an email or stop by the website.

[@gazdavies5581]

@@SimplifyYourSwing Thank you, I will.

[@villarrealmarta6103]

I fell in love with single length irons because I liked the concept and bought a set without even trying them out. After I bought my one lengths I got fitted and they got lengthened to a 5 iron length. This really helped my game. But as I keep playing I am aware of the fact that the people around me do not share in my enthusiasm about them. That being said, I’m also more consistent then anyone I’ve played with and usually shoot at least three strokes better. I like playing an unorthodox way of golf. I don’t think I’ll ever go back.

[@danielmanrose402]

I bought blind too, so glad I did. I'm only 5'6" so I like standard set up, but I've never hit long irons like I am just a week in. All the negative talk about the "shorter" irons and wedges worried me but I like them just as much as the "long" irons!

[@lukeeluciano]

Just received my RadSpeed One length Irons 4-SW after 9 week wait. Cant wait to play them.

[@SimplifyYourSwing]

That’s awesome! Good luck with them. Stay consistent.

[@danielmanrose402]

I just picked up a second hand set of forged tec black one length irons and wedges 4i-56*........ put in a couple days of work at the simulator and range and got my first 9 with them at league. I'm hooked, love the feel and control of the 4-6 and was surprised how much I like the 8i-56*. Heading out this weekend for my first 18 but really worth anyone checking out, especially someone playing bogey golf like myself!

[@SimplifyYourSwing]

Welcome to the club!

[@danielmanrose402]

Thank you for a good place for information promoting one length. When I first started looking into the idea it was tough to get unbiased reviews. Not just KZbin, but even local shops just dismiss the idea and push you into the norm with all the big companies. I wish I did this a couple years ago instead of following recommendations to stay the course with variable length.

[@SimplifyYourSwing]

@@danielmanrose402 unfortunately it’s still happening. Not as much, but there’s still plenty of coaches that won’t do it and a lot of fitters won’t push it unless you’re adamant. I really only know of 2 coaches that promote only single length… me and Mike Schy. One on each side of the country 😂. I’m sure more are open to it, but we prefer to only work with them (I do have variable length students that we do swing work on, but trust me, I push them towards the single length every week.)

[@geraudcrowder3228]

Actually Peter Finch gets it. He put Cobra one length in his bag for about 6 months to a year. The same clubs Bryson played for years. Now agree Rick doesn't care as much. Rick has reviewed Sterling and Cobra one length.

[@hpurey]

Is Rock bottom golf still an affiliate? I remember it used to be and was just about to order a new golf bag but almost forgot to click the link from your page. Don't see it in the video description but still see in on the SLS website.

[@SimplifyYourSwing]

You can get it from the site. The link from KZbin isn’t working. Trying to get that corrected

[@hpurey]

@@SimplifyYourSwing Cool, will definitely do that when I order a Golf bag this weekend.

[@SimplifyYourSwing]

@@hpurey thanks!

[@hpurey]

@@SimplifyYourSwing Golf bag ordered just now. Made sure I used the link bud. ;-)

[@SimplifyYourSwing]

@@hpurey thanks. I appreciate the support

[@andrewfarrington6240]

I made the switch to one length about a year ago and wouldn’t go back. I’m a high handicapper and they simplify the game for me so much and really help me stay competitive. Don’t think the major manufacturers are really interested in one length. Selling clubs isn’t about making people better, it’s about selling the next “guaranteed to improve your game” club every year, year on year. One length makes golf easier so reduces the market. I wonder if there was a low budget set of one length clubs marketed for high handicappers? Surely there would be a lot of money transitioning those players onto a better quality set of one lengths?

[@SimplifyYourSwing]

I feel you on the other manufacturers wanting to sell the next thing, but not sure it can’t be done with one lengths. Cobra releases a new set every year, so the others could follow that model. There’s a few budget sets out there, the problem is they don’t have the marketing capital to reach the masses. I’d say Taylormade did it, then I think it would blow up

[@andrewfarrington6240]

@@SimplifyYourSwing Maybe someone like Costco with the Kirkland line of golf clubs? They are trying to get a foothold in the market and have more marketing capital than the smaller golf brands?

[@SimplifyYourSwing]

@@andrewfarrington6240 I like that idea. If they want a foothold, they’d get a lot of people to give them a run. Have any contacts to share the idea? I don’t, lol.

[@andrewfarrington6240]

@@SimplifyYourSwing Sadly not, although I was having a look and Ben Sayers are doing a reasonably priced (£240 in the U.K) one length package set. Worth a review? bensayers.com/product/one-length-sets/

[@SimplifyYourSwing]

@@andrewfarrington6240 I’d be absolutely open to giving them a try. Since I’m in the U.S. they’re not over here. If they’d be open to working together, I’d for sure give them a review.

[@hongtao2932]

What is the lie angles for your single length irons? I changed my swing from conventional to the single plane but found the lie angle is too small to set the club , feel always toe up in set up? Where can I buy the irons as Bryson's with 73 degrees lie angles. Thanks a lot.

[@SimplifyYourSwing]

I’m at a 62.5 lie angle. My single plane isn’t as upright as Bryson’s and more flat, so the lie works for me. But if you’re upright like he is with your swing those are going to be custom lie angles. That’s going to be a custom order through Cobra or another manufacturer like Edel. And I’ll be honest, I don’t know how far they will take them. Not sure they will go that extreme. For him they would. But it wouldn’t hurt to reach out and see what they can do.

[@hongtao2932]

@@SimplifyYourSwing Thanks a lot for your kindly reply. I just asked one guy who has a golf club fitting studio he told me that the 73 degree lie angles will cost a lot of. Anyway, I will try the one length clubs with 63 lie angle.

[@mygolfquest2734]

Peter Finch used them for a while and went back to traditional irons. He had videos on why he switched back.

[@SimplifyYourSwing]

I saw his most recent where he spent 1 day on them. I know Alex Elliott uses them, but he stays away from the reviews for the most part. But others just review the clubs, say they aren’t seeing the results they expect and it isn’t for them. Seriously??? 1 hour is not going to let you get and understand the benefits. So why bother reviewing and turning people away? Mike Schy just messaged me about this video commending me for the video. It’s sad that Cobra keeps giving these guys a chance to turn people away.

[@SP_99999]

It is a small market compared to the rest and golf industry is quite a traditionalist world. To be honest if you look at review by txg they were quite unhappy with cobra but review of Sterling (unfortunately not anymore in prod) the review was very good. I switched to traditional to one length from cobra, point is that except for cobra it become very difficult to get fitting for one length and it is a risk to just buy a set of iron out of a web shop. Selecting shaft, lie etc if you’re not already very in clear of what you need it is a pain… and not even sure one length company are sending iron to be reviewed so much a part cobra…

[@js4391]

Do u have to have a single plane swing to successfully use single length irons

[@SimplifyYourSwing]

No. Any swing will work. I choose to use a modified single plane to eliminate more variables. But there are plenty of followers and even some of my students that use a traditional swing. The key is to have the same ball position, same swing and same swing tempo with every shot.

[@duffypratt]

I agree that the reviews are shallow. But I don’t think that means that the exposure on those channels is necessarily bad. All publicity is good publicity. Keep in mind that those channels will always give mediocre to poor reviews of game improvement or super game improvement irons. They also are not for them. In fairnessTXG and Crossfield have both been balanced to favorable about one length. I got my Wishon clubs about a month and a half ago. I’ve seen my iron play improve a lot since then, so I’m totally sold on the idea. Greens in regulation has gone from about 4-5 to about 8-9. But if I had not been a beginner, and had learned on variable length irons, I could see the problem switching. Finally, having started with single length, I see even more problems switching back. There would be so much to learn/adjust.

[@SimplifyYourSwing]

I think you’re spot on in your breakdown. The good reviews from Crossfield and TXG are favorable. I think there are a lot of people that are influenced by many. But I think at the end of the day, many look at multiple reviews and there’s a few big influences saying they wouldn’t put them in the bag it can drive people away. I’d rather someone take the time to see the real benefits. Just my opinion and may not be favorable, but it’s been bugging me.

[@Gareth_Dowse]

I'm pretty sure Peter Finch played a season with Cobra one length forged a few years back...

[@SimplifyYourSwing]

You’re correct.

[@nadinegauthier220]

Totally agree with your comment ,they never test these club properly they think their way is the only way, They are snubs about their presume skills and those do not include single length....😂😂😂😂👍

[@SimplifyYourSwing]

Thank you for the support!

[@westy67]

Clearly people haven't been watching Peter Finch's channel for long. Pete actually played Cobra One Length for over a year. He's probably got the most knowledge out of any mainstream golf You Tuber. So let's not knock Pete. As far as everyone else, then yes. It really is only a day or 2 test.

[@dillonquick5134]

I play single length to simply play fun golf. I have a cobra driver. 4 SL hybrid to GW. Just 2 swings. Honestly your average green is probably something like 10x10.. people talk about gapping to much.. just set up and swing....i shoot in the mid 80s. Better than most my friends. even on par 5s I can reach the green in 3.. I don’t like the single plain swing though.

[@SimplifyYourSwing]

That is awesome. Great job and glad you’re enjoying it. Single Plane isn’t for everyone. And I’m not offended, lol. Glad you’re in with us single length guys!

[@Rbeardsley10]

Mark Crossfield seems to be more interested and complimentary to 1 length. He has tested more 1 length.

[@SimplifyYourSwing]

Yea, Mark has a few more out there, but Alex Elliott had them in the bag for a long time. I just don’t understand why more guys don’t realize how single length can help 99% of golfers get better.

[@pedroc6823]

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