Standard Acoustic to Baritone Conversion (...and Tone Demo)

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[@soggyman3852]

One of the most entertaining and unique music channels on KZbin. Yet he’s got 11k subs and not 1 million. That’s criminal

[@SaidTooMuchProductions]

Thank you!

[@soggyman3852]

Said Too Much Productions I generally hope your Chanel blows up in popularity soon. You deserve it. I can tell the effort you put into your videos. Honestly one of my favourite channels to watch. Keep it up man, you’re fucking awesome!

[@RockStarOscarStern634]

@@SaidTooMuchProductions Tuning down a fourth or fifth from E standard got you a baritone on your electric guitars, & it happened the same way on Acoustic Guitar.

[@RockStarOscarStern634]

@@SaidTooMuchProductions For an Acoustic Alto Guitar get a Guitalele. Don't forget your Acoustic Bass Guitar.

[@belcarra]

He’s gained 4k subs cranking out videos for the last year, I doubt he’s going anywhere. But hey, I’d love to be proven wrong

[@mal2ksc]

In case it escaped the notice of readers -- you only need to source your low string. The others can all be shifted over one slot from a standard set, since you're tuning them to the same pitches (except G falling to F♯) and you just don't use the high E string at all.

[@tornadohill1709]

definitely love your information, and your energy! Keep it up!

[@RockStarOscarStern634]

It would rock if they had Tune-O-Matic bridges for Acoustic Guitar that you can adjust justl like an Electric Guitar. They've once fitted an Acoustic Guitar with a Tune-o-Matic bridge which didn't kill the sound but made the instrument easier to tune.

[@adrian1997r]

Sounds Pretty cool :D

[@brendanhoppe227]

So glad you did this! Funny cause I just put my acoustic in f# standard a week ago!🤣

[@materiagrezza9331]

Did the neck bow? Does your acoustic have a truss rod?

[@SpecialFragoutYT]

Can u answer the question up of me

[@brendanhoppe227]

@@SpecialFragoutYT suprisingly didnt bend much at all, I only had to tighten the truss rod a tiny bit cause I used fairly light strings for an acoustic in that tuning. I will say it didnt sound the best being only a 25.5 scale but if you had a baritone acoustic you'd be able to pull it off if you honestly wanted to

[@SpecialFragoutYT]

@@brendanhoppe227 nice thx

[@773Spair]

I think a baritone acoustic would be worse for tuning up to F# standard, not better.

[@Alex-ze9tv]

Baritones usually sound better playing single notes or more deconstructed chords. I wish you had demonstrated that.

[@blahblahsen1142]

i'm a bass player and i got sick of my band booking "acoustic sets" under gazebos and crap, so i got a cheap pink guitar from a pawnshop and made it into a bass. made a new bridge with moveable pieces and i currently keep it in either F# or E standard. for a cheapo pink guitar i painted black, the intonation is fine, it does struggle with low tunings but i use stringjoy steel strings for a bass and it works. not a clear or loud as i'd like, but it will function in E, with a little tinny rattle, F# sounds fine but i cant even get my band to slow down a song or let me have an intro, let alone capo up for my bass. we normally play in C, which is a problem because even a 145 in C1 has no balls. just weak and crappy. i found the trick is to use a brass nut, bridge and use ever higher tension on the low strings so the highs are kinda loose and the lows get really tight, so it compensates a little for lack of volume and "warmth" to some degree. it's not ideal, but again...functional, and i'm not spending a bunch of a huge fat acoustic bass that hurts my shoulder to play like i'm hugging a damn tree. running a 110, 70, 40, 30, so the F# has over 34 pounds of tension, then 24, and the highs have 14. keeps the highs from overpowering the lows and keeps the tension overall at 87, which is lower than the 97 you get with a set of 6 acoustic light 9's. so despite that low F# being like bridge cable, it's not turning the neck into a bananier. that's french talk for yellow-fruit.

[@guitarplayer9000]

Blah Blahsen Why not just buy an acoustic bass? They do exist, y’know.

[@zaidanp7258]

@@guitarplayer9000 hurt his shoulder y know? 😁

[@hannes1734]

You know that acoustic basses exist, right?

[@benlow46]

I just used standard strings and down-tuned to baritone on my Ovation Balladeer wish almost no problem, there is just a bit of fret buzz, but It's not much worse than it was before. It is slightly quieter, but barely noticeable.

[@michaelnelson9554]

I have a First Act electric guitar I bastardised into a baritone with a mixed set of light bass strings and heavier guitar strings. Between my string gauges and scale I ended up tuned to like C# or something. Also being a bass player I tuned 4ths all the way down like a 6 string bass. The end result was fun as hell, and I think it sounded way meaner then it used to. It played allot like a bass yet like a standard guitar simultaneously, it was kind of trippy but awesome in every way. Fish On!!!

[@alaricpaley6865]

I have a nylon String with some ridiculous string gauge. it's tuned to Open C.

[@kaedeschulz5422]

Sounds good! Only needs a bit more bottom end :D Love those videos!

[@bidyutdatta5042]

Nice talk

[@zyan_suxx9636]

My crapy rj guitar (Filipino brand) has DR drop down 13-65s and it's always tuned to drop A, drop G or b standard

[@stanmcdonaldjr7660]

Hey I would love to see you move the bridge back on an acoustic and add to the scale length. Please do a video on that ! I'm thinking about doing that just for my low e string.

[@kaznrg]

That would put the whole thing out of tune, since the frets are located relative to the original bridge position.

[@heggy_69]

Lmao I've been using a nylon string tuned to a bass for recording. No adjustments and I'm using just normal nylon strings. Granted I only have two and the fret at the 12th position fell off (not sure if that's related) but it works if you pile on some eq

[@edwincancelii2917]

In my opinion, that tuning is useful.

[@brCharlieNagy]

good demo, thans ... What is the tuning ? B-b maybe ?

[@slapndbass]

I tune ti b standard sometimes. I use 13s fron daddario phosphor bronze. They're cheap but they sound great on yamaha F335

[@andrewhollis4893]

Would you mind posting the exact specs of the guitar and strings you ended up using here? For one I'm not sure what strings those are, since the package says .070, but you said .074 in the video. By the way, did all the strings fit into the slots of the nut, or do some sit above the slot? Particularly interested in if the low E fit into it...

[@rickbug9504]

Hey bro, what gauge of strings did you use? How was the tension and action of the strings?

[@demongodjr]

So what was the final string gauge

[@zueiraautentica5977]

Have you ever thought bout a SUB-CONTRABASS conversion on it?

[@laudnivek-k9]

Alverez sells a baritone for around 399 guitar Center have them on sale a lot time for 279

[@SaidTooMuchProductions]

Ya, I've seen those

[@laudnivek-k9]

Said Too Much Productions I love your experiments. And videos.

[@RockStarOscarStern634]

Said Too Much Productions Those Baritone Strings are really working & they make your Guitar look like it's strung w/ fresh strings.

[@jullev6709]

Best get a 60 oth thicker for low B and move down the other normal 5 strings. No problems with intonation or action at least in my ovation !

[@Junior1385]

You can tune that guitar like Bajo Quinto

[@shitmultiverse1404]

> demo > it's the goddamn 4 chords

[@SaidTooMuchProductions]

That's what people do on acoustic, I use some 7ths in there too btw

[@SaidTooMuchProductions]

Also suspended 4ths and 2nds...

[@RockStarOscarStern634]

Maybe Powerpins would help

[@RockStarOscarStern634]

Said Too Much Productions Useful, no damage happened to the Guitar at all, it's low lovely Baritone Sound.

[@ravelitschimo]

Can you do it with nylon strings?

[@SaidTooMuchProductions]

I dont think they make them thick enough

[@ravelitschimo]

Said Too Much Productions trying?

[@joycesanders4898]

@@ravelitschimo ..maybe you try? ...I'd think not, but only cause they not making any suitable for that purpose...it be very 'spensive fabricate set...

[@RockStarOscarStern634]

@@SaidTooMuchProductions They're working on it

[@alm000]

I wonder if a nylon string could be heard thru a regular electric pick up. I know it's off topic, but it might shed light on the ever present tonewood debate, :) That thing sounded cool :)

[@Dr.Turkey]

It can't. Electric guitars use magnets which pick up the vibrations of steel strings. They wouldn't work with nylon strings

[@alm000]

@@Dr.Turkey I believe that to be true but I have never actually tried it, nor have I seen any KZbinr ever try it. I have watched folks do everything else under the sun tho. Don't you think someone should actually try it? You know for the sake of guitar science. Also don't you think it's a bit odd that there are no videos whatsoever of someone attempting it? I kinda figured a guy like Kevin would have messed with this topic is all, Hey happy holidays at any rate :)

[@Dr.Turkey]

@@alm000 I mean no offense but it's elementary, nylon strings are plastic and magnetic pickups need metal. For what it's worth I have an acoustic guitar with a sound hole magnet pickup and tried putting on a set of nylon strings before and the pickup couldn't hear it. That's why you never see pickups like that advertised for nylon string guitars and why you don't see people trying this.

[@alm000]

@@Dr.Turkey No offense taken at all. Yeah I was just kinda hung up on the fact I've never seen anyone try it, crossed with being incredibly bored, LOL I mean people try everything on this platform. I will absolutely take your word for it because you've actually done it, Thanks Doc. :)

[@SaidTooMuchProductions]

You would need a transducer or visual based pickup to pick up something non magnetic. Would nylon strings picked up by a transducer on a solid body sound any different than a hollow? I could try that kind of mod if you think the results wouldnt be underwhelming

[@peachmelba1000]

How long a time period did you take between putting those strings on and recording the demo? Those strings look and sound dead as fuck.

[@mtus647]

2:00 HEY THERE DELILAH

[@NathanielBTM]

Hey there Djentilah

[@sidgar1]

You misspelled T H I C C

[@SaidTooMuchProductions]

Lol

[@RockStarOscarStern634]

@@SaidTooMuchProductions Wow those Baritone Acoustic Strings really fit.

[@RockStarOscarStern634]

Said Too Much Productions 1:31 We had to drill out Machine head holes for huge strings not meant or a particular Guitar in the past but that .070 Low B String fits very well into that machine head hole. Acoustic Guitar machine heads more accommodating for Thick Strings (even Baritone Tuning Strings) because Acoustic Guitars implement higher tension to help make it louder w/o the need for an amp which means it's going to have thicker strings compared to an Electric Guitar tuned the same way.

[@RockStarOscarStern634]

6:18 An instrument not being loud enough might be an issue for if you're playing w/ an Orchestra, or a Pianist or if you're also a Singer w/ a powerful belting voice.

[@RockStarOscarStern634]

Said Too Much Productions Thicker Strings wow it worked. Baritone Light Gauge Strings are basically like Extra Heavy Gauge Strings. Daddario makes EXP23 EXP Coated Phosphor Bronze would Medium Gauge Baritone Tuning Strings. Baritone Medium Gauge is the same thing as Heavy Gauge because of course thicker strings are meant for a lower tuning.

[@otavio048]

You look like Abby from Santa Clarita Diet if she started a keto diet

[@RockStarOscarStern634]

Wow those thick strings actually fit well into the tuning machines because the strings are actually tapered. Acoustic Guitar machines are more accommodating.

[@RockStarOscarStern634]

2:03 Hey there Deliah by Plain White T on Baritone Guitar

[@RockStarOscarStern634]

D'addario EJ18 Heavy Gauge Strings work in B Standard Tuning cause the E String is a .014 same gauge as the B String from Extra Light Gauge Strings.

[@RockStarOscarStern634]

0:00 So there are Baritone Guitars out there, beautiful as they sound, and to achieve that tuning of down a fourth or fifth from standard E they usually extend the scale length and enlarge the body. This is always been the trend when down tuning acoustic string instruments.

[@RockStarOscarStern634]

Said Too Much Productions Piccolo Bass Strings make your Bass sound like a Guitar so with a normal guitar do famous bass lines up an octave, & get a Mandocaster 12 & now famous bass lines up 2 octaves.

[@DeeKeyLP]

WHY PIEZO WHAT'S WRONG WITH YOU AHHHH

[@RockStarOscarStern634]

To record

[@RockStarOscarStern634]

3:11 Wake me up by Avicii

[@l3w159]

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[@RockStarOscarStern634]

1:51 After all Acoustic Guitars implement higher tension to help make it louder without the need of an amp so it's going to have thicker strings compared to an Electric Guitar tuned the same way.