Stanley Kubrick Wins Special Effects: 1969 Oscars

Stanley Kubrick wins the Oscar for Special Effects for 2001: A Space Odyssey at the 41st Academy Awards. Presented and accepted by Diahann Carroll and Burt Lancaster.
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[@riEfs85]

Stanley Kubrick is analogous to Bach, Mozart, Beethoven, Da Vinci, Michelangelo or any other great master of his craft.

[@stewartbloomfield8035]

and he would be so surprised to hear praise from anyone FMJ CREW.

[@IshaanGupta00]

@G Galeno Shut up asshole.

[@harrisonmcclintock6681]

G Galeno nobody is better. Name a single director that was more inventive, precise, tricking, and genius.

[@taliamason7986]

@@harrisonmcclintock6681 Alfred Hitchcock.

[@RandomAllen]

@G Galeno At least he knows how to spell 'idea". Pro tip: If you're going to insult, at least put a little effort into not making yourself sound like a moron.

[@nikobrooks9493]

It is a shame that Stanley Kubrick only got best special effects for 2001 Space Odyssey. I mean his whole carrer. That is all they gave him. He was one of the best filmmakers of all time and every modern director owes something to him.

[@Jungjason00]

He was also the most controversial and subversive directors of that era. So I could've seen where they were coming from.

[@awesome420ication]

fuck the oscars. Okay, I know they're prestigious and a lot of people that win them are pretty good( coppola, spielberg, de niro , nicholson) but still, it's great that he at least got an oscar, cuz a lot of fantastic directors never got oscars like hitchcock, lumet, paul thomas anderson. Heck, Martin Scorsese barely won. He was consistently regarded as the best director throughouth the 70-90s and is still one of the best of all time(my favourite). HE finally won in 2007, but he was beyond a legendary director at that point.

[@1000000man1]

And the Only reason he got this award was because the Academy wouldn't give everyone on the Special Effects Team an award, so Kubrick accepted the award on behalf of the Team. It really wasn't his Category. He should've won for Best Director and Best Picture.

[@midkrylegda7887]

Oscars doesn't deserve for Kubrick.

[@galsexe]

His film deserve all the Oscars

[@LPJack02]

RIP Stanley Kubrick (July 26, 1928 - March 7, 1999), aged 70 You will be remembered as a legend.

[@dngrwllrbnsn_]

If he would have lived just TWO MORE years...

[@mishtaromaniello8295]

To be quite honest, I'd rather not win an Oscar and be considered the greatest filmmaker who ever lived than win an Oscar and only be considered a good director.

[@IshaanGupta00]

@G Galeno Shut up asshole.

[@exquisitearc8498]

G Galeno because he’s an incredible director and one of the greatest.

[@katelinmarie5360]

@G Galeno Hitchcock & Welles never won an Oscar for directing (OR film), you absolute idiot.

[@taliamason7986]

@G Galeno Um what. Orson Welles never won an Oscar and somehow neither did Citizen Kane. Exact same for Alfred Hitchcock and Andrei Tarkovsky.

[@pheniellanz5271]

It’s kinda weird that the best filmmakers haven’t won the many Oscars they deserve, but it gives you an idea of how corrupt is the academy

[@charms71]

every scene in a Kubrick movie is like a painting...literally

[@JPWick]

You mean figuratively.

[@eclipsesonic]

It's a shame that 2001 wasn't even nominated for best picture that year. At the end of the day, the Oscars shouldn't determine what is a good or bad film. It was a film that was very mixed from both critics and audiences during its initial release, but as time has gone by, 2001 is now regarded as a classic by both critics and audiences. For me and many others, we consider it one of the best, if not the greatest film to have ever been made.

[@porsche911sbs]

Forgive the humans for their myopia.

[@colderbeer]

Yeah right...and Pink Floyd was better then The Beatles. Better than 2001: The Exorcist, Ben Hur, Wizard of Oz, The Godfather, The Graduate, Doctor Zhivago, To Kill a Mocking Bird, Alien, Blade Runner, Dirty Harry, Marathon Man, The Last Picture Show, Psycho, Dr. Strangelove, and Taxi Driver.

[@porsche911sbs]

colderbeer Well that's a matter of taste. Some people (but not me, personally) would say Pink Floyd is better than The Beatles and truly believe it.

[@smotnick]

***** You were going great until you got to Kill a Mockingbird--which is two different movies strung together AND overrated. Thumbs down for Blade and Alien. And I don't believe neither Godfather nor Exorcist are overrated, although I do not consider either a "great" film. Godfather has a lot to say on a political level that may not have been apparent to audiences or even critics at the time, while Exorcist has some very intelligent dialogue (I recently watched it on the big screen) that was lost in the mire of (at that time) barrier-breaking profanity.

[@smotnick]

***** people who at the time were thrilled to watch stuntmen in rubber suits as their sci fi movies.

[@Collageman90]

The reason why Kubrick wasn't there is cause he is afraid of been on airplanes, but he is still an Academy Award winner even though he didn't win for direction. I mean look at Hal Ashby he is a Academy Award wining director who won only for Film Editing and we should be proud of that along with Kubrick wining for Visual Effects.

[@MGA276]

Not only. He basically didn't like all these meetings and awards. He was more antisocial, liked to sit in his mansion and work on new films there.

[@hersheys16]

Sad to know that this was the only Oscar that Kubrick received :(. Forever a genius

[@manuelbrown8733]

Jesus,the Oscars presentation format have changed so little over so many years.

[@moniquelacosta8522]

Stanley Kubrick was light years ahead. It will take years or even decades for audiences, critics and the Oscars to catch up with Kubrick. He was Best Director for Barry Lyndon, A Clockwork Orange, Dr Strangelove, Paths of Glory. This films has his name on them as Best Director.

[@KungaMatata]

I'd throw The Shining and Full Metal Jacket in there as well.

[@stewartbloomfield8035]

@@KungaMatata thank you crew fmj.

[@TheListenerCanon]

@@KungaMatata Nah, 1980 was Scorsese for Raging Bull and 1987 was Wenders for Wings of Desire.

[@TheListenerCanon]

I'll agree with ACO and Strangelove. But I'm not sure about Lyndon and Paths of Glory. 1975 gave us Spielberg/Jaws, Forman/Cuckoo's Nest, and Altman/Nashville. 1957 also had Lean/River Kwai as well Lumet/12 Angry Men. But then again, it's hard to compare one direction to another.

[@hypn0298]

@@KungaMatata I would say the Shining but then I forgot about Martin Scorsese’s Raging Bull

[@JouniK86]

Kubrick was a true artist who didn't give a flying f**k about prizes which signified success as a social leverage and never paraded around amid his achievements. He was interested almost solely in the color and the shape of the art he was creating, thus spending eons in fixing up the tiniest details, passively directing his actors off-camera for them to be able to access the required mindset and never watching his films upon completion. However debatable, his quirkiness was a direct indication of his ability to grasp what appeared to the rest of us as intangible - a trait that made his works unparalleled among his contemporaries. Only few directors - or artists of any area for that matter - share the same level of insight, attention to the significance of the details, passion and persistence to perfect everything - and such warped view on narration. Prizes such as Oscars have nothing to do with such elements, and - in a certain way - constitutes an antithesis to such visionary talent Kubrick possessed.

[@RVDShawnMichaels]

+Simon G martin scorcese?

[@dungeon-wn4gw]

Paul Thomas Anderson

[@tStevester83]

That's right. Stanley Kubrick ain't got time for ANYTHING.

[@porsche911sbs]

I believe he was making _A Clockwork Orange_ at the time, actually.

[@sspdirect02]

Actually he was developing his defunct Napoleon project.

[@gewatzig123]

Essess Nine Sean Pultz Kubrick actually declined coming to the Oscars, and Kubrick was working on "Napoleon" at the time but, he started working on "A Clockwork Orange" in 1970.

[@jordanrioscreations]

Thomas Stevens Not even time for seeing the glorious rack on Diahann Carroll!

[@vynroeq3401]

ACTUALLY ACTUALLY ACTUALLY

[@Cwebbussenterprise]

I wish he won more. He's one of the directors who inspires me

[@AlfieNoakesOhHo]

Spielberg never had a genius like Arthur C Clarke provide such a massive script/novel whatever you want to call it. Kubrick made it real. Kubrick played Johann Strauss to a space scene. Brilliant

[@samcotten2416]

It’s Richard Strauss, not Johann

[@cesarzpontu8886]

why did you bring up Spielberg?

[@samcotten2416]

Guy doesn’t even show up to accept his Oscar. What a boss.

[@aliensoup2420]

He lived in England at the time, and refused to travel by airplane. He never left England, and made all the remainder of his movies there.

[@Zanaduu]

​@@aliensoup2420 , he had a phobia of flights

[@MGA276]

​@@ZanaduuNot only. He basically didn't like all these meetings and awards. He was more antisocial, liked to sit in his mansion and work on new films there.

[@rustincohle2135]

@@Zanaduu Which is weird cuz Kubrick was a licensed pilot.

[@kronzfps]

I understand 2001 was not nominated for best picture and best director because it was a tough and complex movie at the time. Divided opinions and only became a cult movie years after. Ok, I comprehend that. But the Academy Award should've give to the man a Honorary Award years after for lifetime achievement, like they did with Kurosawa. Kubrick died in 1999 without receiving a proper recognition from the Academy. They did the same with Hitchcock. A terrible mistake.

[@tomdrowry]

Hitchcock got the Irving Thalberg award , which is the highest honorary award the Oscars hand out.

[@Heisenberg882]

the best ones are only recognized after they go

[@57yearoldjamesbond]

It did get nominated for Best Director

[@Jared_Wignall]

Kubrick got nominated for Best Director, but not Best Picture.

[@stewartbloomfield8035]

So true FMJ CREW.

[@marcelluscox24]

Stanley Kubrick and Alfred Hitchcock never won a Oscar for Best Director. Probably the Two Greatest Directors of All-Time and Neither one of them ever won. Hell it took Scorsese 5 times before he finally got one for a Film that wasn't even his best work. SMH the Oscars are a fuckin joke.

[@indomiepanggang4258]

Quentin Tarantino never won best director too

[@BrianFairbanks1]

Neither did Altman, who was as good as any of them.

[@DC-zi6se]

@@Eudaimaniac44 how is that even possible. That's just retarded and overly pretentious.

[@GANSTERBOYable]

The departed is his best work

[@dariusrezaee6851]

The departed is indeed his best work. Goodfellas is a masterpiece non the less but a true movie fan knows that departed is his best work

[@Eduard000F]

He deserved to win the oscar for Best Director and best motion picture

[@hamza89868]

They didn't gave him Oscar lifetime achievement It's a shame

[@brianjcavanaugh]

What does it say about the Academy when "2001: A Space Odyssey" wins an Oscar only for effects?

[@edwilsons]

What a shame, ONLY ONE OSCAR FOR HIM?? every single Kubrick movie was a masterpiece, wtf is wrong with cinema ._.

[@Diggarci]

Kubrick was so genius he did not have time for trivia. He was looking for something that we can't understand yet. We can just admire him like a god.

[@AlexDeLarge77]

He was the outsider but arguably the best American film maker that has ever been.

[@MGA276]

He basically didn't like all these meetings and awards. He was more antisocial, liked to sit in his mansion and work on new films there.

[@karangupta1825]

_Stanley Kubrick_ - *The Greatest Filmmaker of all Time*

[@axr7149]

Until this year, Stanley Kubrick was the only person to win this category for a film they directed. Takashi Yamazaki (director and VFX supervisor of GODZILLA MINUS ONE) now joins Kubrick in achieving this feat. What a company to be in!

[@xprkidx521]

kubrick is the greatest director of all time the oscars are to promote hollywood stars that are marketable

[@moniquelacosta8522]

To all Kubrick fans; Please watch the documentaries: Stanley Kubrick, A life in Pictures. You will love it!!! Also another documentary called Stanley Kubrick's Boxes which shows him researching locations for his films including Eyes Wide Shut. He was a Perfectionist.

[@GIRISHKUMAR-rf3ef]

2001 was so ahead of its time even critics also were not able to understand it

[@whisper618]

He was way ahead of all 'em. I recently watched Woody Allen describing that when he once finished watching the 2001 he didn't get it. Because, he said, the artist was well ahead of his time. True indeed.

[@reving19]

Waited to see this for years. I knew Kubrick wasn't on hand to accept, but always wondered who did. Now I know it was Burt Lancaster and Diahann Carroll. Interesting little quip by Lancaster at the end about Kubrick scouting locations for "2002."

[@gnalkhere]

Wes Anderson won his Oscar the same way; a director with a distinctive style awarded haphazardly for a smaller category as for history to not look down on the Academy

[@saminaik7412]

This was Kubrick's only Oscar win. And this is one of those moments when we begin to question the Oscars' credibility.

[@ledepi34]

This video is so frustrating!! Stanley Kubrick was not there... bad video ending...

[@enchantresse23]

Rest In Peace my beautiful queen 👑

[@AA-sn9lz]

Currently filming for 2002 a space Odyssey 😂

[@droogs8826]

3001 a space odyssey 🐐

[@Sandlot1992]

this would be his only Oscar he'll ever receive as well as Humphery Bogart's only oscar he receives for his role in the African Queen as Best Actor!

[@LuisTorres-gf1lp]

He has been nominated several times for directing, never won before, Oscars sometimes suck

[@javedjasir8107]

Many a times

[@JessCruz]

Stanley Kubrick was a genius.

[@RetroReviewsMovies]

It was no contest really. Those Kubrick effects were groundbreaking.

[@aquagrl63]

I can't believe they didn't even nominate the film for best picture. And the winner that year was Oliver! The Academy just loves to play it safe.

[@YourLoyalDeserter]

Not to mention that in that same year, 1980, The Shining didn't pick up a single oscar nomination, even for best cinematography. It had invented a whole new usage for the Steadicam.

[@gadoo86]

@Halil Hamevioğlu yeah man, the ring is so cool.

[@jayabharathr4702]

@Halil Hamevioğlu hope u r a fan of a movie like 'the skyscraper'

[@svf2006]

@Halil Hamevioğlu Hello Sir ..... can u please pass the weed u r smoking?

[@AlexK-ei7yh]

Kubrick was ahead of its time and the time couldn't keep up with Kubrick's location to hand him the statuette

[@blondmop92]

this man deserved so many more

[@MrShadly01]

I don't really get why this surprises anyone...the Academy Awards are notorious for shunning the science-fiction genre. Generally, the only awards sci-fi films get are in visual effects, costume design and maybe sound editing. Look at Star Wars for example, probably one of the most enduring and successful sagas of all time, yet it only got a few oscars for SFX, music and editing...This was the same year Planet of the Apes got snubbed for best costume design.

[@Miracle67]

The entire Kubrick's work deserve at least an Oscar to each movie

[@OutsetFilms]

I like how they show three frames of video showcasing their work...

[@FredyVergara]

Kubrick All time Icon Goat!!! Mind blown with this legend!!!!

[@gavin8155]

so are we just gonna ignore the divine beauty that is Diahann Carroll 😍😍😍😍😍

[@FigmentSALabel]

No.

[@shayaanrk]

Stanley Kubrick is at the same level in the direction as Beethoven in music!

[@MissPerriwinkle]

seems like ms carroll was on every broadcast for years....

[@iyziejane]

"Mr Kubrick unfortunately can't be with us tonight, in fact he stays as far away from us as he possibly can."

[@willwalker6894]

Dang Burt! I’m still waiting on 2002: A Space Odyssey Revistied.

[@funboy7979]

Well said. Raging Bull is pure cinema, revolutionary. Ordinary People not so much; good acting, but with pedestrian film conventions, like 1950s television.

[@grant1088]

Ms Carroll is so beautiful and classy miss her ❤❤❤.

[@patrickfloresenciso526]

2001: A Space Odyssey and Rosemary's Baby are awesome movies.

[@dustygrady]

I love the way the presenters were looking to the left, looking to the right, looking up, looking down, waiting for Stanley to show up somewhere before finally realizing he wasn't going to show at all. Nice Job Stanley. lol. His reclusive reputation was hard at work again. No wonder they never bothered to give him another Oscar.

[@perryfellow]

this moment, as captured here, contains so many failings of integrity that it's almost beautiful

[@aliensoup2420]

Was that some kind of joke at the end, "scouting locations for 2002:Space Odyssey Revisited"?

[@solan8011]

Yeah it was xD

[@aliensoup2420]

@@solan8011 I don't get the joke.

[@themysticalwanderer36]

best special effects for the moon landing

[@juanjogonza7]

Denle un Oscar honorífico póstumo a Kubrick aunque lleve casi 20 años muerto, es lo menos que podrían hacer en su memoria porque estos pendejos premios le quedaron a deber a este genio

[@emmanuelcortes1240]

Opino igual.

[@linkfan160]

I guess I shouldn't be surprised that he wasn't there to make a speech. It's damnable that this is the only Oscar he ever received.

[@tp9762]

why just special visuals the movie and stanley deserve more

[@BigAl9432]

They should give him an honorary oscar, even though he is dead they should

[@audreyauto]

I'm pleased this was his only Oscar. If he won best picture, best director for every film then we'd all be here saying he was overrated instead of underrated and underapreciated.

[@christopherthorkon3997]

Really disgusting how this went down -- Doug Trumbull should have been up there along with three or four others. Stanley Kubrick took all the credit. And Trumbull, in a later interview, said how mad he was about it. Rest in Peace, Doug Trumbull -- history remembers you as the one who brought magic to the screen.

[@daaavid6344]

Kubrick is too good for the oscars

[@gbeatz4844]

The Oscars don’t deserve Kubrick

[@adamzanzie]

The video cuts off too early. Burt Lancaster’s quip at the end about “2002: Space Odyssey Revisited” is supposed to be a joke (note how Dianne Carroll smiles at it) and we should be hearing the audience’s reaction.

[@emiliomanueldepedro9650]

If it were for me, Kubrick would've also won Best Director and Best Original Screenplay.

[@grant1088]

I no we are here for Stanley Kubrick but Ms Carroll is breath taking miss her beauty ❤ 1:45

[@primosuperfan1393]

We are just saying that he should have won best director for ''2001'' or ''A Clock Work Orange''

[@lucasortigoza7467]

best director ever!

[@heisen-bones]

@G Galeno you probably think Michael Bay is a genius director

[@proxkei2266]

imo, dr strangelove, 2001, aco, barry lyndon deserves best picture and best director, damn

[@shimtest]

that banter....

[@ivandark95]

Stanley Kubrick only won one Oscar , but awards don ‘t define skill of an artist, his works do it.

[@plasticweapon]

glad it was you, burt!

[@mrwolf_to]

I remember a few years ago the Oscar assigned to Kubrick was a mystery: neither photos nor videos were available anywhere, so, it was not clear if he was present at the cerimony and got up on the stage to receive it personally. By the way, Douglas Trumbull and the other material inventors and makers of the special effects are still crying out for vengeance. ... 3:)

[@Swim_Jonse]

One of some dozen nominations he probably should have been awarded 90% of, but nevertheless possibly the most important one of them all. I mean, screw the academy. It's odd how people still kind take the oscars seriously, while the grammys are a clear joke on the other hand. Screw "best picture", too. It doesn't really mean much to be nominated anymore and in retrospect, with all their biases, I'm not sure it truly meant much then, though I'm sure film historians will disagree with me. On the other hand, when you pop in 2001 on Blu-Ray...when you're greeted with this 70mm transfer that looks amazing; looks (save for the color) like it could have been shot yesterday, with one of the greatest SFX sequences of all time at the end...it all still holds up so well visually, which is what Stanley was about more than anything. He didn't care to write his own stories, he didn't care to conform to either obtuse or conventional filmmaking, he wasn't picky with his actors, etc. Filmmaking to him was exactly what it says on the tin. What you saw in the frame during the finished product was more important than the elements contained within. He basically possessed the camera in a way few directors cared for prior to the late 80's through early 00's and wasn't pretentious about it or anything like the far too many sycophantic, cult-like admirers he has today providing their version of what they think was in his head. Sure, it should have swept best picture, director, *actor for Doug Rain holy fuck*, et al but if I had to pick one award to put it to as a standard, it's this.

[@TheSarah730]

You are too right!!

[@Autostade67]

What bugs me about the Oscars is the fine print that determines who is eligible for them. Doubtless Kubrick should have been included among the winners for best visual effects because of his artistic vision, relentless standards, and background in photography, but truth be known, he went digging around the National Film Board of Canada personnel to find out how they had achieved the effects in 1960's 'Universe' and tried to consult Gerry Anderson about the effects work in 'Thunderbirds'. The team he assembled to achieve the effects he had in mind - Con Pederson, Wally Veevers - and here's a REAL Oscar injustice: Douglas Trumble - are legends, and should have been on the stage with him. Hell, Geoffrey Unsworth could have been there too just for the sheer genius involved in shooting the 'Dawn of Man' sequence entirely against front projected backgrounds.

[@EstadodeLimbo]

It will be weird but, I agree with you .Si hubiera ganado ,su obra no resultaria tan enigmatica y asombrosa.

[@onlychild86]

Diahann Carroll is gorgeous.

[@johnhoward8562]

Sadly, due to Academy regulations in place at the time, no more than three statuettes were issued in any one category. 2001 had four Directors of Special Effects (Tom Howard, Douglas Trumbull, Wally Veevers and Con Pederson), one of which was my grandfather. While Stanley Kubrick was very deserving of recognition as an outstanding director, I remain saddened that my grandfather did not receive the official recognition for this film he deserves. Putting it another way, the four men who were Special Effects Directors on 2001 did not receive Oscar's although the film received the award for Special Effects. To my knowledge, this remains the only time in Academy history that the principal Director in the category in which the film received an Oscar, did not win the Oscar him or herself.

[@smilingladka]

everytime some guy watches "2001...", and says "oof, that's some cool and detailed visuals for 1968", that's a tribute to genius people like Mr. Howard and his team who worked so hard for making a movie like this a reality. Stanley Kubrick is just a symbol for his team of brilliant people following his instructions to make masterpieces. That oscar belongs to people like Mr Howard. Respect! ♥

[@johnhoward8562]

@@smilingladka Bless you.

[@williamcoit6488]

Agreed. Stanley Kubrick's 2001: A Space Odyssey credit of; "Special Photographic Effects Designed and Directed by..." is a misnomer. Crucially, Kubrick's sole Oscar win for Special Visual Effects was a bone of contention. The designation of "Special Photographic Effects Supervisor" credited to Mr. Howard, Trumbull, and Pederson doesn't provide due deference for their contributions. Douglas Trumbull said; "There was a certain level of inappropriateness to taking that Oscar...Kubrick did not CREATE the visual effects. He DIRECTED them."(emphasis is my own). Although Trumbull was overwhelmingly positive about his experiences on 2001, and Kubrick in general, that perceived snub chilled any further working relations between the two. I'm quite confident Mr. Veevers, Mr. Pederson, and Mr. Howard were of the same mind as Mr. Trumbull, if not vocally. That being said, you can console yourself to the fact that your grandfather is, and always will be two time Best Special Effects Academy Award Winner for "Blithe Spirit" 1948, and "Tom Thumb" 1958. Cheers!

[@johnhoward8562]

@@williamcoit6488 Very kind and wise words much appreciated.

[@chriscorley6478]

A pinnacle turning point in cinema, ushering modern movie technique. ☕🐢 _c.

[@irisproductions]

In the grand scheme of things, at least Kubrick won (1) Oscar. What would the world of film be without 2001: A Space Odyssey? @Oscars

[@leomaster90]

Douglas Trumbull also should have won.

[@tcehaus2600]

That lady is beautiful.

[@FigmentSALabel]

So true.

[@ahmetkalayci5571]

How wasn't he given an Oscar for Full Metal Jacket which is the best war movie ever? No other movies can be as natural as it.

[@waltworks8389]

Darn it, I just watched the video expecting to see Kubrick making a speech at the Oscars. But what was I thinking, of course he would have not been present lol

[@Vpmatt]

Even better!

[@ralphvd84]

1:30 Burt Lancaster using his Jedi force to stop the music

[@pbac9570]

I only looked up this video to find out if Kubrick would even be the type to show up for the award ceremony in the first place.

[@sudevsen]

only 2 movies?

[@JustinLeyba]

The guy is crazy... that's why he's great.

[@behrwillsonn4842]

Wrroonngg... this was the 1968 Academy Awards, which were held in March 1969.

[@richmotroni]

The only damn Oscar he ever won!

[@rhelyputra4680]

The Oscar doesn't deseve Stanley Kubrick

[@ArtistasContemporaneos]

Not Even Yorgos Lanthimos

[@petertard]

If Kubrick had been allowed to make his Napoleon film after 2001, if MGM had been prepared to put up the large budget, that would have been the sort of large scale epic film which might have won Best Film and Best Director as well as the Oscars Barry Lyndon won.

[@FigmentSALabel]

Perhaps.

[@samwong3343]

rather not win an award when you deserve it, then win an award when you don't deserve it

[@FabinHim]

Actually the only reason he didn't go was because he hated flying and was living in England at the time. Had he been in America he probably would have went and accepted it himself. From what I've read about him, he seemed to be pretty laid back about stuff like this.

[@stewartbloomfield8035]

Stanley was so laid back very true FMJ CREW.