STAR TREK DS9 5x17/5x18 A Simple Investigation + Business as Usual REACTION | FIRST TIME WATCHING!!

[@hippusmaximus9319]

LOL to O'Brien stating he's tired of being the bad guy. He's played a good amount of heavies in his career and is great at it.

[@TerenceLight]

“A Simple Investigation” was originally conceptualized while Odo was humanoid, and the writers had wanted him to experience sex as a solid, but he had gotten his shapeshifting back by the time they got around to making this episode. The end result, as we see, is that they basically had Odo make humanoid love while still being a Changeling but also threw in some Changeling morphing for good measure.

[@davewolf6256]

Well this was the first episode to introduce the plot point that the Great Link is, from the perspective of the Changelings, sex. And it’s hard to say whether it would have been introduced if the script were shot under other circumstances. It’s another example of how the writing staff tends to pivot really well when the series arc changes unexpectedly. 3x26 The Adversary is another example of how well the writers have done so.

[@BEBruns]

I thought it was interesting that Alexander Siddig is still using Siddig El Fadil for his directing credit. According to IMDb this and another DS9 episode is the full extent of his directing career. In case anyone was wondering his full name is Siddig El Tahir El Fadil El Siddig Abderrahman Mohammed Ahmed Abdel Karim El Mahdi.

[@Yora21]

I feel in this show, most of the main characters who have a character arc are about struggling to become a perfect member of their society. Kira wants to help rebuild a peaceful Bajor, but all she's known her whole life was to kill and blow stuff up. Worf, Odo, and Garak have a deep love for their people, but can not support the actions of their leaders. And then there is Quark, who wishes above all else wishes to be a nasty Ferengi businessman, but fails because he's just too good.

[@Justin.Franks]

12:07 Crystals are a very highly ordered arrangement of molecules. And Odo's species seeks out order. Shapeshifting into a crystal is probably pleasurable.

[@1978rharris]

DUDE!!! Nice!!!!

[@theadamabrams]

Cousin Gaila has been mentioned a few times before, btw. When Quark and Odo were trapped in the security office in 3x07 "Civil Defense", Odo complimented Quark on being so devious but then later admitted that Gaila and others are more devious than Quark. In 4x08 "Little Green Men" Gaila is the one who gifted Quark the ship that accidentally transported them to 1947 Roswell, New Mexico.

[@NCarter756]

The one with the moon?!

[@Ofbricks]

43:34 - Because he's NOT sorry the regent is dead and Sisko will not admit that he perhaps approved secretly of this trap Quark set. Basically he's not sorry a psychopathic weapon seller and a psychopathic dictator are either dead or on the run forever.

[@skyblue_studios2991]

Lawrence Tierney the guy who plays the regent is also the same actor who played Cyrus Redblock in TNG episode The Big Goodbye

[@BEBruns]

He’s probably best known to modern audiences for Reservoir Dogs where one character describes him as looking like The Thing from the Fantastic Four.

[@jerodast]

It still makes me laugh that Tierney, who by all accounts was a very tough, genuinely intimidating man who can be difficult to work with, was happy to sit in a chair and go through the Star Trek alien makeup process for this episode. I mean I know he was a professional actor, but it somehow just seems like he wouldn't have the patience for it...maybe I'm thinking too much of his legendary appearance on Seinfeld where he didn't seem to have the patience for ANYTHING haha.

[@dupersuper1938]

@@BEBruns Also Elaine's dad.

[@Yora21]

The guy's name is Brunt, FCA. 😁

[@jzero4813]

That's F.C.A. ;)

[@jasoncaldwell5627]

Two great episodes! The woman Odo falls for in A Simple Investigation is SOO lovely. Her voice is hypnotic. The two killers are GREAT- like Cohen Brothers characters put into Star Trek! They had real character and were memorable. Business As Usual shows us Quark's cousin Gala after his name was dropped a bunch of times. It also shows that Quark is anything but a typical Ferengi. Both he and his brother and mother have that arrest of qualities- morals. It's also interesting to see some slimy human types- certainly it's not just the aliens in Trek that are creeps. Great to see Odo get some romance- and for Kira to notice!

[@jerodast]

I was a little surprised most of the two killers scenes didn't make the edit here, they were probably more memorable than the woman for me, although that wasn't bad either.

[@jasoncaldwell5627]

@@jerodast Yeah, the edit was pretty harsh.

[@chrisfraser5088]

Great episodes! Always really loved Business as Usual. We know Quark has a heart, but it’s nice to see it from time to time 😊

[@tofersiefken]

Something about the actor portraying Hagath reminds me of Rutger Hauer in Blade Runner 1982.

[@Renegade2786]

He remind me of a dangerous Soviet general that James Bond and John Rambo faced in *First Blood to Octopuzzy*

[@silikon2]

Steven Berkoff. He’s English but his grandparents were from Russia and Romania. Altogether it gives him a vague ethnicity, handy for an actor. Yeah I can definitely get the Rutger vibe from him. Hagath: yeah, he played him very well. You could never tell what he was up to. Joking with Quark about the food was hilarious. Definitely a well acted ep and the guests were written very well.

[@hellfish2309]

He did play a soviet against Rambo in one of those movies

[@jerodast]

Yeah definitely some similar features. I know him most as Stilgar on the Sci-Fi channel miniseries version of _Children of Dune,_ which is not bad.

[@Renegade2786]

Kirayoshi know a warrior when he see him. That's why he's not crying when he is held by Worf.

[@jerodast]

Me: "Oh, A Simple Investigation? Okay little "femme fatale" detective story I guess but not anything to get excited about really..." Sisko: "That's _niccce."_ Me: 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@skywaymanaz]

Steven Berkoff played a police officer in A Clockwork Orange, the bad guy in Beverly Hills Cop, General Orlov in Octopussy, WW II toothbrush mustache guy 🥸 in War and Remembrance. A chilling performance he gave in that mini series.

[@martinfehringer6408]

Worf's son is shown in a few more TNG episodes than you've watched 😉

[@jerodast]

To be fair it's true he's mentioned his son approximately 1 time in the 1.5 years he's been on DS9 now haha. But yeah maybe Ollie doesn't get to be the arbiter of this one.

[@pauld6967]

Ollie's comment @15:16 is the same joke folks have been making about Mister Fantastic & how this gives an additional explanation about why the Invisible Girl is happy to be with Reed Richards.

[@SteveHARDWATER]

The two assassins are quite entertaining😅

[@quoniam426]

15:20 Yes absolutely, it can take the shape he wants... and more with shapeshifting fusion. He can pretty much give a girl an orgasm while not being solid at all... Sisko's reaction is priceless. At least we now know that Odo's taste in women is impeccable. Rules 35 and 36 and I'm mixing them up all the time: "War is good for Business" and "Peace is good for Business". Oh you mean that guy looks like Baron Vladimir Harkonnen? I was about to say the same. Better be in debt towards the Federation than towards the Orion Syndicate or any other scumbag mafia...

[@-M0LE]

The lady looks exactly like Kira she fell for Odo’s extendable pipe game Second episode had the bad guy from Beverly hills cop

[@nicholasregan6526]

Kira: Something to look forward to, Me: I THOUGHT she was going to lay into him too

[@michealoceallaigh4716]

Arissa actress appeared in TNG S5E13 "The Masterpiece Society" Josh Pais (Gaila) was a Ninja Turtle in the 1990 movie, Steven Berkoff was a villain in "Octopussy"(1983) and "Beverly Hills Cop" (1984), plus the Baron Harkonnen in the 1984 "Dune" movie was muy weirder.

[@JamesC1981]

Steven Berkoff also all the way back in A Clockwork Orange

[@jerodast]

Haha had no idea about the Ninja Turtles connection! I was gonna say, Ollie may hate the way he Gaila talks but I think it is HILARIOUS, even better than Brunt or Zek for over the top Ferengi slimy voices.

[@WUStLBear82]

Not only could Odo vary the size of his unit, he could make it a French tickler😮.

[@silikon2]

The revelation of Bashir’s genetic enhancement casts new light on his extensive holosuite usage…

[@darthroden]

Quark once again showed he has a heart beneath all that greed. Its like what he said to Garak that one time before he gave the rootbeer analogy: selling weapons is such an impersonal business. Also its completely scummy because there is a good bet Quark's cousin (who you will see again, spoiler alert) and his business partner were selling weapons to both sides and profiting off the wreck of who knows how many lives. Money may not know where it comes from, but in the end you do and you have to live with that knowledge.

[@cashflowhustles]

Quark is slimy and greedy but he's NOT EVIL! They made sure to HUMANIZE Quark and most Ferengis in general although some of them are completely evil.

[@silikon2]

It’s interesting Bajor forced the station to allow the weapons dealing. It absolutely made sense and would be hypocritical not to. I also don’t think The Sisko could hassle Quark the way he said he planned to, but the speech was great. Certainly I buy everyone giving him the cold shoulder though… except maybe Kira… I’m way less certain of that and think she’s really just going along with everyone else, and particularly The Sisko.

[@kuribayashi84]

Hagath is played by Steven Berkoff. He played one of the Main Villains (General Orlov) in _Octopussy_

[@nathanfitzgerald6651]

Always wonderful to have a scene with the one and only Lawrence Tierny! Hollywood's ultimate crazy bad boy. Did you ever see Reservoir Dogs, Ollie?

[@jerodast]

"Woah, the tough gangster character actor was on Star Trek, TWICE? What did he play?" "A tough gangster guy and a mass murderer war criminal." "Ok yeah that makes sense."

[@BlueSunHiredGun]

Funny you should mention Dune. The only other project I know by the actor who plays Hagath is the Children of Dune SyFy channel miniseries. He played Stilgar, Javier Bardem's character.

[@jerodast]

Ahem, it was still the Sci Fi Channel at that time :P But yeah samesies. Also I swear to god I did not think for a second that was Javier Bardem haha. Without the Chigurgh haircut I'll never recognize any future role of his probably...

[@Echo4Bravo]

15:10 This kid's a Star Trek fan. 🤣 and who cleans the Holodeck. Do they still use a black light? 🤣

[@jzero4813]

Business as Usual is a legendary episode. Like House of Quark - everybody knew what episode they were in and acted the absolute crap out of it.

[@tofersiefken]

Jolan Tru - Romulan greeting. (May your day be filled with peace.)

[@1000silentdeaths]

2 fantastic episodes

[@auntvesuvi3872]

Thanks, Oliver! 🖖

[@empirejeff]

Should the Obrien's get a cat?

[@jasoncaldwell5627]

Ollie should get a cat!

[@arno_nuehm_1]

​@@jasoncaldwell5627 "Spot"?

[@Renegade2786]

When he meets Alan Carter, he will get one.

[@theadamabrams]

O'Brien probably would not have to worry about the cat scratching him because that wouldn't be enough suffering. He might end up brain-swapped with the cat and have to live a few decades in a cat's body, though. Unable to convince anyone else that's he a person and not just a cat. _That's_ some Miles O'Brien-level suffering.

[@LordMekanicus]

Nah, the O'Brian family should get a Klingon Targ. It would become so ferociously protective of the kids and Keiko, that long suffering Miles would be constantly shredded.

[@baronvg]

42:47 🥁 😂😂😂😂

[@jeffarwady]

15:10 - 🤣🤣🤣

[@cashflowhustles]

Two GREAT EPISODES!

[@find2hard]

I recommend Lord of War, a movie about arms dealers.

[@cashflowhustles]

Good recommendation. The story was based on a real life arms dealer.

[@hellfish2309]

Excellent movie… upsetting, but very good; Jared Leto is actually tolerable

[@TheDb1t]

Damn, I'll be honest, I liked the weapons dealer. Yeah he's super evil, but doesn't make him less likeable. Haha!

[@dupersuper1938]

I'm surprised that the Federation run space station doesn't have daycare...

[@winkles2314]

Steven Berkoff is a legend.

[@benlinus1310]

Make it so number one

[@jonm3427]

Weyoun is definitely the best character played by Jeffery Combs in DS9. His best in all of Star Trek was probably the Andorian Captain he played in Enterprise. If you ever want to see Kirk and Odo butt heads watch the first 2 seasons of Boston Legal.

[@MicahSps]

Not the (ENTIRELY DESERVED!!!) Alexander shade! But, you know, keep watching...

[@kirishima638]

Dad Space Nine

[@janehrahan5116]

on the selling cardassians weapons things, large states like the cardassians federation klingons romulans breen tholians sheliak ect don't use arms dealers, its only small system states or non government entities that would need arms dealers.