STAR WARS Announcements - Can the New Movies Fix the Franchise? | ScreenCrush Rewind

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Of all the Star Wars announcements at Celebration 2023, we are most excited for the new movies. One featuring Rey forming a new Jei order 15 years after the Rise of Skywalker, one by James Mangold about the Dawn of the Jedi, and finally a Mandalorian Avengers-like Culminatin film by Dave Filoni, where the New Republic likely faces Grand Admiral Thrawn.
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I know, Lucasfilm has given us a lot of false starts, which I’m going to talk about in a second. But it seems like they’ve finally regrouped and have a plan for the future of this galaxy. I’m cautiously optimistic because it looks like Lucasfilm is finally correcting their early mistakes-because let’s face it, the studio has made an enormous amount of errors in the past ten years, and squandered what was the most anticipated Star Wars trilogies ever made.
In a little bit I’m, going to talk to a couple Star wars experts, colton ogburn and dod seitz about this, but first I want to tell you why I’m so excited, and why you should be excited about these announcements, but first, let’s look back at how we got here, so we know exactly what Lucasfilm has done wrong.
So when Disney bought Lucasfilm in 2012, the studio wasn;t ramped up to make a lot of Star Wars content. There were clone wars episodes being created, the usual comics and expanded universe material, and they had also completed several episodes of what appears to be a terrible animated show called Detours [clip].
Lucas had just started to develop a story for Episode 7 with screenwriter Michael Arndyt, who wrote Little Miss Sunshine and toy story 3. You can find accounts of what that story would have been online.
When Lucas sold his company, he thought Lucasfilm would make the trilogy he outlined, but instead they decided to go another way. The work of Arndt was dismissed, and they essentially outsourced the movie to Bad Robot, JJ abrams’ production company. Disney was very bullish about the franchise, saying they planned to make an eerie year, alternating between saga films and spin-off films.
But, and this is key, this new trilogy was not planned out. JJ Abrams is a sponsor of the mystery box storytelling, where the mystery of something is the appeal of the story. Normally, Star Wars movies had 3 years between installments, but the new trilogy only had two years. So Rian Johnson was given carte blanche to continue the story of episode 7, and Jurassic world’s Colin Trevaarow was able to develop episode 9 picking up from there.
And then the spinoff films had massive production problems. Rogue one’s final act was totally re-editing with extensive reshoots, with some accounts saying that Tony Gilroy should have been credited as co-director with Gareth edwards. Solo had completed more than half of principal photography when directors Phil lord and Chris miller left the project for “creative differences,” [clip] Leaving Ron Howard to reshoot huge sections of the movie and even recasting the movie’s villain from Michael K williams to Paul betany. Yes, we almost had Omar in Star wars.
And then other spinoff movies like Josh Trank’s Boba Fett movie were killed in development. Solo was the first star wars movie to arrive to roars of apathy, so Lucasfilm decided that original trilogy characters couldn;t be recast.
Doug: Well that's silly, we just don't care about a young Han solo movie. Doens;t matter who’s playing him.
Exactly. They took the wrong lesson from Solo’s failure. So now we have to squint at deep fake Luke and pretend it's Mark hamill. I mena, they’re trying, but this is not a human being guys.
And the last jedi was one of the best-made star wars films ever, but it was maybe too brave where the force awakens was too timid, and there was massive, very vocal backlash form a minority of fans.
Puppet: What do you ena minority of fans. We are legion!
The movie made 1.3 billion dollars. It Was weird watching Luke milk a sea cow, but most people liked the movie. But still, Lucasfilm knows that Star Wars should be pleasing as many people as possible, so it over-corrected for the last Jedi backlash.

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@ScreenCrush
@ScreenCrush Жыл бұрын
What did you think of the new movie announcements?
@TimSedai
@TimSedai Жыл бұрын
I hope the Rey flick borrows from Anderson's Jedi Academy series
@noname-bu1ux
@noname-bu1ux Жыл бұрын
I'm glad. I loved the sequels actually.
@iamdmc
@iamdmc Жыл бұрын
fans: we hate the sequel trilogy lucasfilm: we've heard you... so we're bringing back the sequel trilogy cast and story
@beepboop204
@beepboop204 Жыл бұрын
🙂🙂🙃🙃
@jamesgardner6707
@jamesgardner6707 Жыл бұрын
Idk where to go to get unbiased Star Award coverage anymore? On one hand you got the Geeks& Gamers/ Nerdrotic crew that just automatically shit on everything Star Wars. Then you got Screen Crush that is the opposite spectrum and hates on Gina Carano and loves the high republic novels. Can we just get middle of the road coverage?
@Techsticle
@Techsticle Жыл бұрын
0:16 That imitation of Doug was on point 😂👍
@PCG06
@PCG06 Жыл бұрын
​@@Spear_of_Horus you are onto something 🤔
@canuck_gamer3359
@canuck_gamer3359 Жыл бұрын
Did he do that intentionally or was that a mistake? I haven't seen him do that before and because he looked away as if he were replying to Doug, I wondered if maybe he didn't actually mean to have it that way.
@thomasbuttigliero6752
@thomasbuttigliero6752 Жыл бұрын
@@canuck_gamer3359 it looks like a mistake, also the editing feels weird. I guess he inadvertently dropped the mask
@masterYoshimistsu
@masterYoshimistsu Жыл бұрын
He's going to get fired if Doug finds out he's mocking him.
@thomasleonardis711
@thomasleonardis711 Жыл бұрын
@@masterYoshimistsu this.
@2323dbarro
@2323dbarro Жыл бұрын
Giving Rey the story we wanted to see for Luke is not going to please the fans. It’s just poking the bear.
@rubadubby
@rubadubby Жыл бұрын
Somebody would say you are toxic, but you are not. You are just a realistic and sensible. She is not a bad actress tho, you are pointing out the idiotic writing, like a realistic and sensible person would be doing.
@gabrielamaya2964
@gabrielamaya2964 Жыл бұрын
Honestly. The fans will never be happy
@sarasharick5209
@sarasharick5209 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's kind of just cementing Luke as a false re-start. I'll give it chance, but my disappointment with the sequel trilogy will be hard to overcome.
@garymcfee447
@garymcfee447 Жыл бұрын
Poke it
@johnthemangood8700
@johnthemangood8700 Жыл бұрын
Thank you exactly!
@Kidrobot52
@Kidrobot52 Жыл бұрын
Lol when you forget to insert the dog. 😂😂😂
@fireresq7
@fireresq7 Жыл бұрын
Yes!!😂😂😂
@vlifonti
@vlifonti Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@treywright6564
@treywright6564 Жыл бұрын
It honestly added to the comedy
@KevyNova
@KevyNova Жыл бұрын
It made my brain hurt.
@PCG06
@PCG06 Жыл бұрын
LMAO 😂😂😂😂😂
@KevyNova
@KevyNova Жыл бұрын
No amount of new movies will ever make up for the fact that we never got to see Luke, Leia and Han together again.
@pretty5793
@pretty5793 Жыл бұрын
That should have happened 40 yrs ago.
@gdavis
@gdavis Жыл бұрын
point, if they were together bet fans would have said fan service
@GonzoTehGreat
@GonzoTehGreat Жыл бұрын
​@@pretty5793 It did happen 40 years ago... The original ending of RotJ has all 3 of them hugging each and celebrating together, then Luke looks across to see the Force ghosts of Yoda and Obiwan watching on, as his father (Anakin) joins them. It was beautiful.
@ryanerickson3063
@ryanerickson3063 Жыл бұрын
What hurt most about the sequels is that Rey, Finn, Poe and even Kylo Ren had such potential and they are played by such fantastic actors, but where let down by bad scripts.
@nicksawrickshaw537
@nicksawrickshaw537 Жыл бұрын
Agreed. I am confused how legacy fans are "toxic" for not liking it, but then the "regular" fans not liking it too is ok? I do agree actors shouldn't really catch hate unless they actively ruin their portrayal. It really isn't their fault.
@darthgillez1272
@darthgillez1272 Жыл бұрын
​@@nicksawrickshaw537 Last jedi fans love to trash OT fans and call them Toxic for not being okay with with the sequel Trilogy 💩💩💩💩
@indiana_holmes
@indiana_holmes Жыл бұрын
​@@darthgillez1272 this is bullsh!t. I'm an OT fan and a fan of the Last Jedi. Don't make assumptions.
@jackdubz4247
@jackdubz4247 Жыл бұрын
@@nicksawrickshaw537 Legacy fans should know better. And keep a slightly more sensible head on their shoulders. Instead, we have OT and PT fans ganging up on ST fans for liking the sequels, much in the same way OT fans used to rag on PT fans for liking the prequels. Now that I think about it, Star Wars fans, of all eras, need to grow up.
@nicksawrickshaw537
@nicksawrickshaw537 Жыл бұрын
@@jackdubz4247 what does "should know better" mean? I have not heard of fans attacking fans at all. I see people that complain about the shows and the creators calling them toxic and everything else.
@johnbyrne3402
@johnbyrne3402 Жыл бұрын
How can Rey teach when she was barely taught anything. She just magically knew everything
@Ensign_Roque
@Ensign_Roque Жыл бұрын
Makes no sense😅
@jacquelyynorgana77
@jacquelyynorgana77 Жыл бұрын
Honestly lmao having no flaws or anything, no overcoming things either
@GonzoTehGreat
@GonzoTehGreat Жыл бұрын
Because the Force is Female. It's Kathleen Kennedy who wants to bring her back and she's only interested in using the franchise to promote her own brand of militant feminism. Daisy Ridley did her best to portray Rey, but her character is rubbish and her story is even worse. What a waste of potential. Just as it was so disappointing how Issac's Poe and Boyega's Finn were underused.
@slimmarky3540
@slimmarky3540 Жыл бұрын
She’s a palpatine.
@dm7561
@dm7561 Жыл бұрын
Found the toxic fans 😂😂😂
@lennardooo2849
@lennardooo2849 Жыл бұрын
0:16 Doug has taken over Ryan's soul
@ChiefenKief
@ChiefenKief Жыл бұрын
@etienneveillet6677
@etienneveillet6677 Жыл бұрын
HAHA
@Moe.eye1
@Moe.eye1 Жыл бұрын
I’m confused, what happened?
@starielife2680
@starielife2680 Жыл бұрын
@@Moe.eye1 they showed the guy In video doing the voice for the puppet but forgot to show the puppet.. now everyone knows the guy in video does the voice for the puppet.. but the edited it out
@SurlockGnomez
@SurlockGnomez Жыл бұрын
Great example of franchises not respecting their own neighbours was how the Director of Multiverse of Madness didn't bother watching Wandavision; even though Wanda was the main antagonist in his film.
@Ensign_Roque
@Ensign_Roque Жыл бұрын
That's why the story went out the window.
@GonzoTehGreat
@GonzoTehGreat Жыл бұрын
Multiverse of Madness was rubbish. It was such a crushingly disappointing sequel to the excellent Dr Strange. However, I think it had to be that bad to be consistent with the rest of Marvel's awful Phase 4.
@ministerofsillywalk
@ministerofsillywalk Жыл бұрын
The sequel movies did a huge disservice to the fans, there are many reasons, but most is that the direction just doesn't make sense, the battle hardened rebellion just gives up it's army/navy, Luke and his Jedi school is overthrown by one guy, Luke who believed in the good of Darth VADER just gives up on his nephew and the galaxy, then Kylo Ren who overthrew Luke and the school gets defeated by a young Rey who has never been in a lightsaber fight. And then Palpatine returns which undoes the whole Anakin story arc.
@eddysandland58
@eddysandland58 Жыл бұрын
I find Screen Crush let's say a bit Optimistic etc When it comes to The Disney Sequels and TV Shows! And I Agree with You! Disney/KK/JJA Had the opportunity to put the OG's All together in the 1st Film and Failed Miserably! It was the same As A New Hope But with a Planet as The Death Star n New Republic/Empire! I mean is THIS The Best they could come up with!? Lol Seriously No Outline of an Arc over 3 Films! What where the writers on? A Fuckin HUGE Disservice! And Luke lol I could go ON! But I'm gonna eat my dinner 🍽 Anyway Well Said Cheers Mate 🍻
@cameronh7521
@cameronh7521 Жыл бұрын
Totally agree
@colingroom8461
@colingroom8461 Жыл бұрын
Whatever your opinion is of him, Filoni is Lucas's heir. He trained with him, understands him, and shares both positives and negatives of his approach.
@lorenzog7811
@lorenzog7811 Жыл бұрын
hes too stuck on Ashoka but ya
@14bface
@14bface Жыл бұрын
You fail to mention that TLJ was on a pace to make force awakens money after the first weekend. But then crapped the bed at the box office after that. Sure there are fans of the movie but it didn’t get enough secondary views from die hard fans or good word of mouth. It made a lot of money mostly because of anticipation and it has Star Wars on the poster
@No.1GodzillaGlazer
@No.1GodzillaGlazer Жыл бұрын
Yeah, box office numbers aren't a good criteria to find popularity, rotten tomatoes is much better.
@Ironwalrus8989
@Ironwalrus8989 Жыл бұрын
And the rise of Skywalker only made half of what The Force Awakens made. Plus the Joker movie made more than tros, insert mark hamill joker laugh.
@Yxalitis
@Yxalitis Жыл бұрын
The Last Jedi was a Rain Johnson ego trip, his only interest was to divide the fanbase, ignoring whatever pathetic mystery box crumbs JJ dropped as he stumbled through memberberries New Hope that was TFA. Disney so badly fucked up star wars that recovery seems unlikely Andor was the bright hope, but nothing seems to be branching off that, instead we get Rey Mary fucking Sue in another movie I guarantee you will be dire garbage.
@baroncandy3939
@baroncandy3939 Жыл бұрын
My father and i walked into force awakens thinking my god it will be a legacy from my father's time to mine but no hell no we walked out in mid film
@skyblueo
@skyblueo Жыл бұрын
The Firefly movie was brilliant! It stood on it's own and actually made me go back and look at the show.
@bryceneuberger3460
@bryceneuberger3460 Жыл бұрын
I... What? I saw Doug's voice come out of Ryan!!! Ryan is just a puppet of Doug!
@Ron-oq3ro
@Ron-oq3ro Жыл бұрын
I second Dave Filoni being the secret sauce!
@ComiccollectorGamer
@ComiccollectorGamer Жыл бұрын
He is the key to everything
@GonzoTehGreat
@GonzoTehGreat Жыл бұрын
That man is our last hope.... No, another there is!
@Jobo89
@Jobo89 Жыл бұрын
I trust more Dave than John, John this season is more involved than Dave on s3 of Mandalorian. Dave and John were co writers on s.1 And s.2. Dave this season was busy working on Ahsoka
@hiltondrivef8458
@hiltondrivef8458 Жыл бұрын
As I commented the celebration had very hearted fans who are very devoted even a few dressed up as Rey, so why criticize a franchise, they are so fand who are full of hate, they even said how they hate the mandalorian,
@MrBazBake
@MrBazBake Жыл бұрын
Filoni cowrote two episodes of the show. Favreau wrote twenty-four episodes, six without a co-writer at all.
@Ashley_e
@Ashley_e Жыл бұрын
Dave had little to Nadia this season, that’s true, he was filming Ahsoka
@jsemail894
@jsemail894 Жыл бұрын
Dave Filoni is the fixer. I think it has been the plan all along that the sequel trilogy was just painting the broad strokes to get a new generation into Star Wars. Now the master Dave Filoni can fill in the gaps and flesh out the stories of the characters of this era. And mark my words it going to blow your mind and it’s going to make the sequel trilogy seem awesome!
@nmg3282
@nmg3282 Жыл бұрын
I hope you’re right. But I think he will end up redoing the sequels, but with the same characters. Just in a better way. And I don’t know how, but I heard this beautiful theory that the death of Ahsoka will be used to show what would happen. So the sequels happen if she dies in the duel with Vader. The new version of the sequels will be what happens if she lived . Kinda like that. Gives the sequel gang a new lease on life and better films and allows for legacy characters to say goodbye how Tony stark did in endgame. I want to be in the cinema auditorium cheering for the Avengers of Star Wars. This is what this franchise deserves 🎉
@Ensign_Roque
@Ensign_Roque Жыл бұрын
I don't think those movies are saveable, no matter what Filoni or Favrou are doing, there are too much cringe and pointless content in it. Part 7 is watchable for me though. The rest not.
@GonzoTehGreat
@GonzoTehGreat Жыл бұрын
Nah, the Sequel trilogy will always be trash. You can't polish a turd... Just as the Prequels will always be disappointing, despite having a good story, because Lucas botched the telling of it. Filoni can be trusted to keep Star Wars on the right track, but he's no George Lucas, he's more like his Padawan. Also, the SWU is too large for him to be involved in each and every project. Instead, he will hopefully oversee the overall direction of the franchise to ensure there's a coherent vision going forwards. We'll have to wait and see. 🤞
@GonzoTehGreat
@GonzoTehGreat Жыл бұрын
​​@@nmg3282 I think the idea of using the "World between Worlds" as a way to reboot the future timeline is popular with disgruntled fans, but even if it could be used this way, the Sequels aren't going to be replaced as long as Kathleen Kennedy is in charge at Lucasfilm and she's just announced more films intended to progress Rey's story, which doesn't make sense if they're planning to reboot it...
@bdeakes
@bdeakes Жыл бұрын
There's no possible way for a Rey movie, set after the sequels, to fix the sequels. It isn't like the prequels, that needed blanks filled in, in between films.
@eyespy3001
@eyespy3001 Жыл бұрын
I think it will “fix” them in the sense that this new movie will be a soft reboot that barely references the sequels beyond some familiar core characters. The time jump allows them to sort of create new characters out of these familiar names and faces; characters that are _actually_ proper characters. That’s what I’m hopeful for.
@thefitgm335
@thefitgm335 Жыл бұрын
They really painted themselves into a corner. They literally have to spend multiple shows to try and set up the sequel films to be what they are, on top of the fact that they have to make the new Republic a bunch of bumbling baphoons like the people who took over Seattle for a month a few years ago. On top of that, they are entrusting the Rey spinoff to a director that did two Ms. marvel episodes and a female empowerment documentary.
@evanbelisle8464
@evanbelisle8464 Жыл бұрын
I’d have to survive a severe brain injury before I’d look back on the sequel trilogy fondly.
@swordigosung994
@swordigosung994 Жыл бұрын
@@eyespy3001 There are a LOT of backhanded opinions in this comment.
@takeo_624
@takeo_624 Жыл бұрын
​@@eyespy3001 giving Rey the story that should have been Luke's isn't going to fix anything tho it'll just aggravate one of the main problems people have with the sequels
@nicholasgarrick8855
@nicholasgarrick8855 Жыл бұрын
I think that the Dave Filoni film is going to be based off the Thrawn trilogy ( most likely the last command) if it is I hope that Timothy Zahn is a writer or helps with the production of the film.
@Robingames100
@Robingames100 Жыл бұрын
He also was involved with the Ahsoka show so I think he will also be involved with the movie
@sniperic1
@sniperic1 Жыл бұрын
WE are doomed! I can't believe what KK says, but bring Rey back, no that ain't fixing nothing, all that does is split the base even more.
@amyparker9816
@amyparker9816 Жыл бұрын
It's the "fans" own fault. There's always something to whine about. waaaahhhh Rey is a Mary Sue (she's not), waaahhhhhh I hate everything Disney, wahhhhhh Kennedy, waahhhhh Filoni, waaahhhhh Favreau. These "fans" watch the new shows and movies just to pick everything apart, then complain when they don't like anything.
@BlueLeprechaun15
@BlueLeprechaun15 Жыл бұрын
​@@amyparker9816 True
@sniperic1
@sniperic1 Жыл бұрын
@@amyparker9816 2 words for you , Disney Shill!
@GonzoTehGreat
@GonzoTehGreat Жыл бұрын
​​@@amyparker9816 What a load of rubbish! The Sequel trilogy was garbage. Rogue One was great. Solo was decent. Obiwan Kenobi was rubbish. The Mandalorian was great. The Book of Bobba Fett was awful. Andor was amazing. Star Wars under Disney has been a mixed bag, so it's unsurprising this has divided fans, who are legitimately unhappy with how beloved characters have been mishandled by clueless writers like Jar Jar Abrams and Ruin Johnson, who don't even understand the universe their stories are set in. Thankfully, there's still talent like Filoni, Favreau and Gilroy at Lucasfilm. Hopefully, they'll attract like minded fans and creative artists who want to tell original stories set in the SWU.
@michaelfincham2749
@michaelfincham2749 Жыл бұрын
When it comes to a Rey movie, it puts us right back where we were after eps6. The sequels just told the same story as the Original Trilogy. Just that the OT did it better. So now they will have Rey do what Luke was Supposed to do in the ST. The sequels lost money with every instalment and put the death nail in the Star Wars toy sales for those movies. Even Solo's toys sold better. For those that liked the ST. These are your films and Reys movie will be yours as well. After 40 pulse years of watching, reading and playing Star Wars. I will be sitting out any continuation of the Sequel trilogy.
@Zynnix
@Zynnix Жыл бұрын
The problem with the sequel trilogy was a lack of understanding of story arcs. This unknown period where Rey rebuilds the Jedi Order was what was supposed to happen with Luke. But instead of having a period of stability and building toward a climax by the third movie, Force Awakens started with a superweapon bigger and badder than any ever before, Luke's entire new jedi order having been killed off screen, and the almost complete destruction of the New Republic in one fell swoop. There was way too much death and destruction out of the gate. It's like dealing with all those plot details was too much of a burden for JJ, so he just killed all those things off so he could tell the story he wanted. It tried to escalate on the stakes of Episode 6 rather than being a slow build toward a new crisis that culminated in episode 9. It's great that they learned that lesson and all, but it took an almost nonsensical progression of episodes rife with plot holes and contradicting narratives that actively undermined and disrespected the achievements of key characters in the universe to get there. They NEED to plan these movies on a longer time scale. You can't just show up on the day and freestyle it. Believe it or not, Marvel is actually doing this well right now and its going over most people's heads. They saw Endgame and I guess expected 'Endgame 2' levels of a excitement as an immediate followup, but didn't realize that phase four is essentially phase one all over again. This is a building period where the threads between these characters are starting to intertwine and connect and will culminate in phase 6. These same people that are highly critical of the movies being 'boring' right now are gonna be the ones same ones screaming and clapping the loudest in the theaters during Secret Wars. It's just basic knowledge of how to write stories and the sequel trilogy of Star Wars didn't do it right. I have a lot of respect for the Last Jedi because it was the only movie in that trilogy that was bold and tried to tell a new story, to narratively push things forward instead of digging in its heels and placating the audience with cameo appearances and retreading well worn ground. It wasn't perfect either and still could have used a bit more perfecting and tuning, but it tried to set the record straight that this trilogy wasn't about the things that came before, but the characters in the here and now, firmly establishing that this was a conflict between Kylo and Rey and I liked that they did that. It did the best that it could as the connecting thread between two episodes of 'all flash and no substance'. But of course then we can snap cut from there to "Somehow Palpatine returned" and all that effort goes straight down the drain.
@Father_Daniel
@Father_Daniel Жыл бұрын
I can't believe they had a different person behind every film! Why would you not atleast have a simple layout of were the story is supposed to go? Crazy they hinted at Reys parents in force awakens but did not know what her lineage was yet?? That's crazy and just stupid way to write a Trilogy
@Zynnix
@Zynnix Жыл бұрын
@BK Beatty I know a lot of people blame Rian Johnson for Luke's position in the sequel trilogy, but what was he supposed to do? He was handed a story where Luke failed to establish a new Jedi Order and all his padawan learners were killed by Kylo Ren and he went into hiding to escape from it all. That wasn't Rian that did that, it was JJ. All he did was take the pieces of that and move things along into telling a story that wasn't about Luke anymore and his successes or failures. It was about Rey's personal journey and her conflict with Ren as she was the one sort of destined to contend with him. Kylo Ren very clearly states this. "Let the past die." He doesn't want to think about it anymore, he only wants to deal with what's in front of him, and I think that was his attempt to sort of steer the narrative direction of the trilogy, a set of instructions that went unheeded with the ridiculous revival of Palpatine in the follow-up. At least Rian Johnson tried to follow the story of Force Awakens and build off of it. (Even if you believe some of the things he built off were things you didn't agree with) Episode 9 is so bafflingly full of holes I literally cannot believe that they allowed it to release in the state it was in.
@Zynnix
@Zynnix Жыл бұрын
@@Father_Daniel It just demonstrated the lack of understanding they had for the fandom. For as much love as the Force Awakens gets, JJ literally handed off a smoking ruin of a universe and said 'you guys deal with it now' which is such a weird thing to do in the first part of a trilogy. It was like a crazy game of Mad Lib where they just expected the next director to fill in blanks of all the hanging plot threads. I'd love to know for example what the original plan was for Snoke.
@keithparker6520
@keithparker6520 Жыл бұрын
Both JJ and Johnson are guilty of crimes against Star Wars
@Father_Daniel
@Father_Daniel Жыл бұрын
@Zynnix perfectly said!
@Mayhem_Inc
@Mayhem_Inc Жыл бұрын
I always loved the Old Republic. The time period could be more free with out worrying about the Skywalker sagas.
@KyleHerbert13
@KyleHerbert13 Жыл бұрын
I think Dave Filoni has been working hard on the Ahsoka show and hasn't focused as much on the shows he co-produces, and it shows. Ahsoka will be Dave's real test though.
@thepangwin902
@thepangwin902 Жыл бұрын
I predict he will fail. Guy is a hack.
@KyleHerbert13
@KyleHerbert13 Жыл бұрын
@@thepangwin902 I mean you're entitled to your opinion even if it's a stupid as f*** one
@drewizkoollikeicecre
@drewizkoollikeicecre Жыл бұрын
@@KyleHerbert13 Yeah, I agree. Really stupid comment.
@cruzinthruspace
@cruzinthruspace Жыл бұрын
​@@thepangwin902 you're wrong. People who hate Filoni aren't fans.
@MrBazBake
@MrBazBake Жыл бұрын
Filoni doesn't actually produce all of these shows, you know that right? He has the George Lucas Executive Producer credit, the one where he shows up on set and corrects the length of the head tails.
@wesatrk
@wesatrk Жыл бұрын
I think we’re all going to be PLEASANTLY surprised at Dave’s Movie Directorial debut. His ability to maintain George’s charm in StarWars is great and I love the “clunkiness” you askew to. StarWars I’d definitely in track.
@MrBazBake
@MrBazBake Жыл бұрын
He directed the Clone Wars movie.
@gdavis
@gdavis Жыл бұрын
@@MrBazBake I am hoping new jedi order movie takes some of George's ideas for the sequel trilogy. Keep in mind some of that script can be adapted
@MrBazBake
@MrBazBake Жыл бұрын
@@gdavis Luke failing and going into hiding and a young girl needing to learn the Force from him is in Lucas's original treatment and it got the loudest backlash from hardcore fans
@stevenrmclaren
@stevenrmclaren Жыл бұрын
in the end I think we will all be wishing that Dave had directed the last 3 movies.
@Cerfpve
@Cerfpve Жыл бұрын
I just want more grounded Star Wars works myself. My favourite thing they've done since prequel trilogy is legit the prison scenes in Andor and the stuff on Coruscant with reformed Empire members. It's just so interesting.
@GonzoTehGreat
@GonzoTehGreat Жыл бұрын
More of Tony Gilroy's work would be welcome, but he might've decide to move on already. Andor was awesome.
@YakoTheGoat
@YakoTheGoat Жыл бұрын
Comparing the sequels to the prequels is a ridiculous notion. George, the literal creator of the universe, made the prequels with a vision in mind. The sequels had neither.
@colin_cpr
@colin_cpr Жыл бұрын
0:16 ayooo what !!!! he broke the ilusion
@NckMaC
@NckMaC Жыл бұрын
I thought I just smoked way to much this morning LMAO
@colin_cpr
@colin_cpr Жыл бұрын
@@NckMaC haha lmao
@berraloks
@berraloks Жыл бұрын
@@NckMaC lmaoo
@SevenMigthyDavee
@SevenMigthyDavee Жыл бұрын
"A lot of people liked the movie" best line of this video😂
@MirorR3fl3ction
@MirorR3fl3ction Жыл бұрын
10:09 since the sequels were so lacking in a sensible core plot that wasnt seriously thought out, it will be very difficult to "fix" that era the way the clones wars did with the prequels. No amount of memes can fix the broken plot the sequels dumped on us imo
@eyespy3001
@eyespy3001 Жыл бұрын
I get the sense that this new feature with Rey will be sort of a soft reboot. For a long time after the prequels, the events and many characters in those movies were never mentioned or referenced. I get the sense that this new movie will take the same approach and not really reference much of what occurred in the sequels. It will essentially just be like, “yeah, those things happened, but let’s talk about what _will_ happen, not what _has_ happened.”
@jackdubz4247
@jackdubz4247 Жыл бұрын
I'm willing to bet that Disney are going to give it a damn good try.
@fr2331
@fr2331 Жыл бұрын
Pure hubris. How are they going to convince Hasbro to make shelf warmers for a 4th time?
@xvx4848
@xvx4848 Жыл бұрын
I agree, personally I loved the prequels but it wasn't until the clone wars before I truly understood them. I don't think we can go back and tell stories to make things cohesive.
@HandofOmega
@HandofOmega Жыл бұрын
it also hurts matters that no matter how much cool stuff we see in the New Republic Era (sounds so much better than "Mandoverse"!), we all already know the downer ending it's all going to. Personally, every cool thing I see from that time, lasts only as long as it takes for me to be reminded that, "Oh, right...it all ends in fire and ashes..." and my excitement dies away. I never bought into the desparate hope that they would decanonize the ST, but man, did I HOPE that was true! But nope, we just have to live with this massive black hole on the face of the franchise from now on...Hopefully, the next movies will be enough to carry it on to a better future at least.
@wonkywaddlingwaterwingedwriter
@wonkywaddlingwaterwingedwriter Жыл бұрын
People talk about how crazy the CGI Luke and Leia look and I feel like I have to some level of face blindness because to me they look absolutely fine in short spurts. Lips are noticeably different, I suppose, but I just can't see the differences that well and I feel crazy for it lol.
@Plush.Hunter
@Plush.Hunter Жыл бұрын
Couldn't care less about the new Rey movie, but I'll give the other two a chance.
@eyespy3001
@eyespy3001 Жыл бұрын
I’m optimistic that this new Rey movie will be sort of a soft reboot that doesn’t reference or acknowledge much of the events of the sequel trilogy beyond a few core characters. This will potentially allow them to fix a lot of the poor decisions they made with those sequels where we’ll basically get a brand new Rey; one that is a proper character.
@Plush.Hunter
@Plush.Hunter Жыл бұрын
@@eyespy3001 here's hoping. But maybe they should have waited an actual 15 years for this new movie. For now, the character is burned if they don't do some major reboot, like you say.
@No.1GodzillaGlazer
@No.1GodzillaGlazer Жыл бұрын
I'm actually pretty excited about the Dawn of the Jedi one and obv Ahsoka looks like a banger.
@jeffreycarman2185
@jeffreycarman2185 Жыл бұрын
11:48 up until the space Mary Poppins and the hyperspace cutting the ship I had never before said “yea right” while watching Star Wars. That stuff took me out of the universe way more than deep fake Tarkin or whatever. It’s always been space fantasy, but that stuff cross a line.
@jabopro
@jabopro Жыл бұрын
My favorite part of The Last Jedi was when you thought a ship was landing and it was an iron...ironing uniforms. One of the best Spaceball movies ever!!!!
@HandofOmega
@HandofOmega Жыл бұрын
I threw in the towel when I realized that Kylo Ren and Gen Hux were almost literally Dark Helmet and Col Sanders...
@Ironwalrus8989
@Ironwalrus8989 Жыл бұрын
@@HandofOmegaNo sir I didn't see you playing with your dolls sir!
@ironmammoth7
@ironmammoth7 Жыл бұрын
I think that the Rey movie will bomb. So many fans would have loved the sequels to have been taken from the "The New Jedi Order" books. Sure, we also wanted the Thrawn trilogy, but with the time that had past it wouldn't have been possible. But once again to have Rey to one up Luke again by doing what he couldn't is really going to tick off fans. I am actually excited about everything, but the new Rey movie. I have no issues with any of the actors in the sequels, to me the people at fault for the sequel trilogy issues are JJ Abrams, Kathleen Kennedy, Pablo Hildalgo, and Rian Johnson. Poor script writing and even worse character arcs made those movies abysmal.
@ChiefenKief
@ChiefenKief Жыл бұрын
It's like telling a kid santa's not real, I can't believe you've been speaking for Doug this whole time🤣
@PeteCorp
@PeteCorp Жыл бұрын
Dog voice!!!! You ate Doug! 0:16
@jdamoormartinirossi791
@jdamoormartinirossi791 Жыл бұрын
Rey is a no go for me. I'm not ripping the band aid off that wound.
@ejfheoshrjde
@ejfheoshrjde Жыл бұрын
Really wished they announced a What If for SW.
@starkillerbeats420
@starkillerbeats420 Жыл бұрын
Fr I've been wanting that
@PomaReign
@PomaReign Жыл бұрын
Daisey is one of the most talented actress in Star Wars. And she couldn't find a job after finishing the Sequel Trilogy.
@gunkulator1
@gunkulator1 Жыл бұрын
The OT is filled with memorable stand out scenes with Luke. I'd be hard pressed to think of anything that stands out from the sequels featuring Rey. She's a wholly generic and bland character.
@MMorris-fs5rj
@MMorris-fs5rj Жыл бұрын
Ryan did you just say The Last Jedi was one of the best Star Wars movies ever made?!?! Credibility was just completely killed.
@flyin_carparts.6041
@flyin_carparts.6041 Жыл бұрын
Being at Star Wars celebration seeing everything was amazing the Ahsoka Trailer with thrawn and the Sneak peak at Bad Batch S3 was amazing
@bigmikebeebee
@bigmikebeebee Жыл бұрын
Loved the guests this time and heartwarming to see their positivity -- please more of Colton and Dod! (And less of Mark, Heather and Paul whinging)
@matthewa2531
@matthewa2531 Жыл бұрын
"Somehow they've created a fourth and WAY MORE deathy Death Star"
@smashdriven1640
@smashdriven1640 Жыл бұрын
I honestly wish Jon Favraeu, Dave Filoni, and Tony Gilroy were the only ones directing Star Wars films. They really get the Star Wars universe way better than anyone else. P.S. I think you forgot to insert Doug in the intro lol.
@TheManCone
@TheManCone Жыл бұрын
Easy to fix, Rey discovers a temple like the one on lothal then goes back in time aborts herself killing her grandfather before she is even conceived but does all this after assuring that the first order doesn't look like an army of Afflack commercials waddling their disgraced Donald duck uniforms across the galaxy by killing Kathleen Kennedy and the director of episode 8 who both are obvious double agents only working at Disney to hurt the franchise and kill most of our child hood in the interest of demoralizing the world. Anyways episode 7-9 undone give the keys to Sam,Dave,and John and just walk way getting rich off their fan service.
@fitnessnacho7419
@fitnessnacho7419 Жыл бұрын
00:15 that was funny, you forgot to insert the dog, finally, we know it's you!!!
@drforeheadkisses
@drforeheadkisses Жыл бұрын
Disney has crammed so much Star Wars down my throat in the last few years that I can't even pass gas without lightsaber noises escaping. Please, no more... There's too much...
@DerekScottBland
@DerekScottBland Жыл бұрын
No one forces you to watch, cupcake.
@bdeakes
@bdeakes Жыл бұрын
Don't watch any then
@MarvinMartinez2001
@MarvinMartinez2001 Жыл бұрын
Dave Filoni’s Film will be so great it’ll have the same hype as an MCU film and what’s great about watching movies and shows prior is that they give connectivity and makes the films more worth it
@samdt3129
@samdt3129 Жыл бұрын
Dave Filoni is the best thing that happened to Star Wars since George Lucas. I'm really looking forward to Filoni's movie, and I'm glad he's getting rewarded for his amazing work.
@darthuchiha9870
@darthuchiha9870 Жыл бұрын
Ian McDiarmid, Christopher Lee, Samuel Jackson, Ewen McGreggor, Hayden Christiansen, Alec Guinness, Mark Hamil, Harrison Ford, Carry Fisher, Liam Neeson, Rey Park, Oscar Isaac, Adam Driver. All off the top of my head. Daisy is absolutely not one of the best actors the series has seen. Rey: *yells* *screams* “I’m Rey Skywalker” Screencrush: “AND THATS WHY SHES THE GOAT”
@roytromb_strength
@roytromb_strength Жыл бұрын
Rebels is some of the best Sw, if not the best SW out there, Ryan!! The exploration of the force itself is better than anything before or since.
@lcbrown2119
@lcbrown2119 Жыл бұрын
I'm rewatching Rebels for like the 10th time after watching Celebration. It is even better as it ages -and is truly an underrated show. Every single main character is explored, and Kanan's journey is just fantastic-start to finish. 🤌
@markkjacobson
@markkjacobson Жыл бұрын
I’m always exited for new Star Wars. I haven’t loved everything put out but that’s OK. I see it all as one big experiment in storytelling. I’m really excited for Dawn of the Jedi!
@craigcraigster5605
@craigcraigster5605 Жыл бұрын
What about Andor?? That series gave me hope. Not into the animation series at all. I guess star wars is going to be fragmented more and more.
@jackdubz4247
@jackdubz4247 Жыл бұрын
Nope. Quite the opposite.
@postfieldshow
@postfieldshow Жыл бұрын
I would say that people should look at the kenobi show through a different lens. The reason I say that is because as a narrative for post war PTSD it makes it feel correct. As a veteran with ptsd the show is a perfect representation of all the effects of ptsd on different people. Kenobi- crippling depression, nightmares, and fear Reva- obsessively hyper focused The homeless clone begging for food Vader- hyper commitment to "the cause" and hatred to anyone who disagrees Leia/ luke - orphaned children of war Inquisitors- hyper agression to your old beliefs. It is slow, then fast, then confusing, then obvious. Which is exactly how ptsd feels every day. The frustration a person feels just living.
@bottledwaterprod
@bottledwaterprod Жыл бұрын
Correction- SOME vfx artists are great. The fact the one man made that shot better in one month than a whole team could in a year was embarrassing. Cool for him though, because Lucasfilm hired him to make the much better Luke seen in The Book Of Boba Fett.
@Progger11
@Progger11 Жыл бұрын
It was a flaw of the technique, not the individual people.
@KevyNova
@KevyNova Жыл бұрын
@@Progger11 but people used the technique.
@TFGuitarstudios
@TFGuitarstudios Жыл бұрын
Damn you’re really good at impersonating your dog…. Wait a minute 🤔😂
@saikoyama
@saikoyama Жыл бұрын
3:36 I went to see The Last Jedi because I really enjoyed Rogue One and I was curious what happened after Episode 7. I had emotional whiplash going from Rogue being my favorite Star Wars movie to The Last Jedi being the most divisive and my very least favorite of the franchise. I wish I could get my money back. I decided to skip out on watching Solo in the movie theater because of that movie. I watched and liked Solo when it had it's home release. I liked the actor who played him too. Hope he'll come back in the Lando show.
@Ironwalrus8989
@Ironwalrus8989 Жыл бұрын
No Cap, solo is probably my second favorite Disney star wars movie after Rogue One. TLJ and TROS retroactively made me not like TFA because the sets in TFA go nowhere.
@GonzoTehGreat
@GonzoTehGreat Жыл бұрын
Rogue One and Solo are the only good Disney Star Wars movies. 👍
@j.a.velarde5901
@j.a.velarde5901 Жыл бұрын
I have been a professional Manhattan based actor for more than twenty years; those of us in the business KNOW that excellence is required of us. I see it every single day. - We (@ScreenCrush included) have an OBLIGATION to hold the Industry to standards; otherwise, legendary Intellectual Properties get PLUNDERED for their value (left without talent, proper writing or a good plot... THEN simply milked for revenue). - The story of Lucasfilm is one of POLITICS and VIRTUE SIGNALING - You can't do a gender or a race justice by hating on white men and then ignoring the entire premise or history of the I.P.; that's just being sexist and racist and then claiming to champion human rights! - Furthermore, the very people in power at the company who undermined the values in the original Movies CONTINUE to work at the studio... NOTHING HAS CHANGED. -
@TheCnr72
@TheCnr72 Жыл бұрын
I think it may be a little tough for Star Wars fans who became fans with the OG trilogy to change their opinion of the sequels given what they did to Luke and the OG characters. I’m fine with getting new characters to get to know and love but retconning our original heroes of the movies to do that doesn’t work for me. I love Star Wars and still watch anything they put out. But I’ll never be a big fan of the sequels past episode 7.
@zechrojas2202
@zechrojas2202 Жыл бұрын
Exactly! The prequels did not completely destroy some of the previous beloved characters. Now they're coming out with a Rey movie where she is starting the Jedi order and does it successfully instead of Luke. That's going to rub many many Star Wars fans the wrong way and rightfully so.
@sarasharick5209
@sarasharick5209 Жыл бұрын
@BK Beatty I'm actually not bothered by that because Harrison Ford wanted to get killed off in Empire and Lucas wouldn't let him.
@FunnieApple
@FunnieApple Жыл бұрын
The comparison isn't with what they did with the characters but how the prequels and sequels were hated by the fandom. Despite all of that hate the prequels ended up being redeemed by the subsequent shows, films, games and books made about them and now people love them! The same can be done for the ST, despite the reasons for the hate being different. There were also a ton of people who hated the prequels 18 years ago who now love what they've spawned and can stomach them better, though still not like them, despite them not destroying previously est. characters like you said, which is beside the point.
@sarasharick5209
@sarasharick5209 Жыл бұрын
@@FunnieApple the prequels at least had a cohesive story to work with though, even if it wasn’t executed that well. The sequels don’t even have a clean story told across three movies. The shows were able to flesh out a prequel story that was already there. What they’re doing now is justifying sloppy sequel choices with additional uneven story telling.
@No.1GodzillaGlazer
@No.1GodzillaGlazer Жыл бұрын
@@FunnieApple Honestly I have no idea why there was so much hate past maybe ep1. I can see why some people may not like TPM but AOTC is great, especially with Yoda and Dooku's duel and the start of the Clone Wars. The main highlights of the Prequel area were The Clone Wars, Revenge of the Sith(def my fav SW movie), and the Bad Batch.
@spirit-fruit
@spirit-fruit Жыл бұрын
I've been deep diving a lot of your Starwars videos and having been appreciating your breakdowns of things and enjoying the videos a lot. I just wanted to comment to throw this out there that it seems your videos are at a quieter volume than other videos on KZbin. I don't know how KZbin sets up there audio compression but I like to have your videos run while doing things around the house and (on my laptop speakers so not the best) I have a hard time hearing sometimes. But other videos I have a less of a hard time. So just throwing that out there as something to possibly try to see if you can level the audio higher and if that would help other listeners as well. Again love the content!
@MaddNomad1015
@MaddNomad1015 Жыл бұрын
Technically it’s not a era post Palpatine since she’s….you know…. a Palpatine. Honestly she’s one of the most controversial characters as well, so we’ll have to see.
@TabascoVolta
@TabascoVolta Жыл бұрын
that's a cool point! certainly a point of struggle for Rey. that information becoming public could be similar to what Leia faced when the universe found out she was Vader's daughter
@BLACKandZEN
@BLACKandZEN Жыл бұрын
Rey's father was apparently a strand cast and her mothers heritage was never mentioned. I think if anything they need to clear that part up . She could invent a new name or try to discover who her mother actually was. It's probably just as spiteful to call her Palpatine as it is to call her skywalker. She is Rey strand ,I guess ,or Rey Searcher ....
@MaddNomad1015
@MaddNomad1015 Жыл бұрын
@@BLACKandZEN in my opinion they should’ve made Rey a Kenobi or they shouldn’t of killed off Ben.
@marciallea-plaza4908
@marciallea-plaza4908 Жыл бұрын
The last jedi making 1.3 billion dollars doesn't mean it was a good movie or that it was a liked movie, it means Star Wars still has a massive audience.
@Jabberstax
@Jabberstax Жыл бұрын
Aquaman made a billion + and was a god awful movie. Paying to see something doesn't guarantee people actually like it.
@ianleifheit7105
@ianleifheit7105 Жыл бұрын
I always ask how much TFA made and the TLJ supporters get quiet real quick lol
@eziosblade3
@eziosblade3 Жыл бұрын
3:30 "Remeber kids, Its not important if its of high quality, only if it makes money" - Mark Hammil also this has always bugged me, the following shot of the porg stomping on Anakins lightsaberon that specific place, THATS THE IGNITION or "Activation Matrix". thats the movie subtely giving you the middle finger
@jansenart0
@jansenart0 Жыл бұрын
There are no "sides" to the force, there's how much you give into it. Like Yoda said, if you give in to the quick and easy path, that's the way to the dark side. The force is an eldrich horror; it uses force adepts as conduits. The deeper you go, the more you let it control your being, the worse it gets for you, until you're trapped in the dark side, holding yourself together with only rage, with no choice but to exist as a conduit for the dark side. The dark side isn't the reverse of a coin, it's the deep end of the ocean. The Jedi use discipline, meditation, talent and martial prowess so that they aren't tempted to rely on things like force lightning and death fields, which are the TRUE face of the force.
@sarasharick5209
@sarasharick5209 Жыл бұрын
I've thought something similar. No other kind of "energy field" has "sides." It's how and why you use it that matters.
@pt2k645
@pt2k645 Жыл бұрын
The Force is The Force. The battle of Light vs Dark is in you.
@nicholasgarrick8855
@nicholasgarrick8855 Жыл бұрын
Grogu will most likely be part of rey's jedi order I would put money on that.
@RyanByrne999
@RyanByrne999 Жыл бұрын
Fun drinking game. Drink every time the dude in the middle blinks. You'll be drunk in a minute.
@RedBairnMedia
@RedBairnMedia Жыл бұрын
Hi-five for that near perfect impression of Doug.
@MarcoMartinez-si9ye
@MarcoMartinez-si9ye Жыл бұрын
My family and I love the whole Star Wars Universe, Originals, Prequels, Sequels, Rogue One, Solo the Mandalorian, Clone Wars, Rebels, TBOBF, Kenobi, Jedi Tales and Andor. My immediate family is 8, part of a 800 family and our friends is about 3,000. About 4,000 of my family and friends enjoy the whole of Star Wars Universe. No toxic fans in this network. We love Darth Vader, Jar Jar Binks, Ben Solo and Poe. Enjoy the Action, Politics, and especially the Force.
@destinycaptain247
@destinycaptain247 Жыл бұрын
X Doubt. There’s a lot of weirdness going on over there. Been that way for years. Doesn’t matter what you think of the previous career of a certain creative… it’s painfully clear they were not cut out for this position they currently hold. It’s been chaos over and over. We keep getting told it’s other people’s problem. Maybe that was true one or even twice. But at this point one cannot kid themselves about where the fault lies any more. That one position MUST change so that any further movement can be made.
@abishaipaul2298
@abishaipaul2298 Жыл бұрын
Okay James bond
@destinycaptain247
@destinycaptain247 Жыл бұрын
@@abishaipaul2298 Uh…. Sure thing, Knight Rider?!?!?? Not even sure what we’re talking about.
@TheMonitor88
@TheMonitor88 Жыл бұрын
I dont like the last jedi, but to discover that I had to buy a ticket of the last jedi, a lot of people decided not to give solo or the rise of the skywalker a chance because they didnt liked the last jedi, not only that but they never manage to sell toys, that majority that liked it against a minority of fans who didnt is just not true, the only people Ive met who liked TLJ are lurking on reddit
@iLLiCiT_XL
@iLLiCiT_XL Жыл бұрын
Love that Daisy Ridley is getting another shot, really upset that John Boyega probably wouldn't do another Star Wars if they begged him. He got a super raw deal in regards to how Finn was treated and I would have loved for them to do more with him.
@richpeltier9519
@richpeltier9519 Жыл бұрын
Almost forgot to high five Doug. 🤘🧙‍♂️🤘
@Jobo89
@Jobo89 Жыл бұрын
I love this channel
@bigmikebeebee
@bigmikebeebee Жыл бұрын
14:17 I don't understand why Ryan keeps perpetuating this incorrect idea that you can only enjoy the Mandolorian if you've watched all the animated series. I've never seen a single episode of Clone Wars or Rebels and I love this season (and the other 2 seasons) of Mando, Andor, and BoBF. And from other comments, it's the same with many other people. Maybe it's a side effect of his job as an Easter egg hunter: Ryan just can't imagine anymore what it's like to not know (or care about) any of those references.
@igitaq
@igitaq Жыл бұрын
The very first Star Wars movie was considered by most people to be a one off. The studio did not think sequels were going to happen until it exploded into the public consciousness. Lucas used it as a showcase of what movie making could achieve technically and built a complete story to make that happen. A New Hope was in essence a really catchy jingle made to get people interested in the technology used to make the film and the merchandise that afforded Lucas the independence to create how he wanted. The jingle was very compelling and drew the crowds it intended but it was very contained. Ever since then Lucasfilm has been trying to turn the jingle into an ever growing symphony. That requires great finesse and cohesion to work, at least for the masses, but the overall attempt has been a bit maclunkey.
@dylandubois6333
@dylandubois6333 Жыл бұрын
Lmaooo I didn’t know you just make the dog voice as you’re going 😩😂😂
@Varindran
@Varindran Жыл бұрын
Them bringing back Rey feels like they are poking a hornets nest that they should be leaving alone but we shall see how it goes.
@danielhenderson3753
@danielhenderson3753 Жыл бұрын
After rewatching all nine movies (middle three first), the Jedi were arrogant bureaucrats in the prequels. They made mistakes, and those who survived were humbled and racked with guilt in the original trilogy. They made Vader. Jedi evolve, and they weren't always "the light side". So there is a lot of interesting material to explore in the birth of the Jedi. Bring it on!
@jmejmzzz
@jmejmzzz Жыл бұрын
Obsessed with this episode and guests! Stoked to no end with the films announcement!! I'm a 'lifer' and love the films because they give us these fill-in stories. "It's like poetry"
@JoshuaHeald
@JoshuaHeald Жыл бұрын
The great thing about Star Wars is George Lucas's original three movies. Disney had it's chance for a merchandising cash grab and than squandered it on lackluster sucky and unimaginative movies that alienated a substantial portion of the fanbase. Disney's one hope is the remaining fans who live for nostalgia and gobble up anything with the title STAR WARS slapped on it. For example, if/when Kenobi season 2 comes out and the entire series focuses on Obi-wan's unquenchable lust for Jawa juice and his escapades on Tatooine to get that stinky brew. All because remember in Episode 2 when that waitress droid asked if he wanted Jawa juice? *Remember?!* Than in A New Hope, when old Ben was burning the Jawa corpses on a pyre. Well, retcon, he was barbecuing them for their precious Jawa fluids. *It all makes sense now!!* Now this sounds silly and grotesque, but get those clowns Filoni and Faverau behind it and have Galaxy's Edge to serve up the foul brew, and 💥BOOM💥 nostalgia nerds will grab on and proclaim their love for whatever Disney does and "just like it for what it is!" *Kenobi: Bring me Jawa Juice!* As for a *Rey: Die, Palpatine, Die!* movie (not the actual title, but probably better than what Disney dreams up) I don't think a pregnant Rey in a brass bikini herding womp rats and getting drenched in green space rain could save it. It'll make money, like Solo money, but that's it. It won't move merchandise. (But it'll be a favorite for artists on Deviant art.) And hey, when Palpatine somehow returns and launches his Final, Final Order from his super secret Sith base on Byss (like the comics 😉) he can threaten the galaxy with red TIE Fighters that have Death Star lasers! Bye, bye baby! Creative bankruptcy as it's best! Enjoy the show, fellow Star Warriors! Anyways, May the Force be with you!
@samurai_panda
@samurai_panda Жыл бұрын
No one will ever be able to convince me that Episode 8 wasn't the worst star wars movie. It is visually brilliant, yet disjointed film; it has multiple pointless plot lines that go nowhere and dumb characters, and it just goes out of its way to fight everything episode 7 sets up, and then doesn't get a continuation of it's ideas in episode 9. But I have high hopes for the future of the franchise, I am very excited to see new stories in the universe.
@MrBazBake
@MrBazBake Жыл бұрын
Episode 8 doesn't contradict anything in Episode 7. Episode 9 contradicts both 7 and 8 though.
@jacquelinemoeller7146
@jacquelinemoeller7146 Жыл бұрын
It 💯 makes sense that they are switching away from Disney + series to movies… from a certain point of view. If you follow Disney financials, the theme parks are subsidizing Disney plus. And that has caused capital expenditure to be cut for reinvestment and maintenance for the parks. Which has led to park guest experience declining. That is why Iger is trying to do some damage control. The parks are the biggest revenue and profit driver for the business. So Disney needed to switch strategies. Also the investors were not happy on some the most recent financial calls about the way funds were being diverted. Mickey Views channel does a great job diving into this.
@caste.chronicles
@caste.chronicles Жыл бұрын
0:15 Careful Doug, your Ryan is showing a little bit.
@the_traveling_broker
@the_traveling_broker Жыл бұрын
The only way the Rey movie works is if grogu is still alive. If we get a “teenage” grogu (i think he would be somewhere around 100?) in the new Jedi academy. Ideally he wields a reforged darksaber as both a mandalorian foundling & a jedi apprentice then this can potentially be good.
@stareatme9983
@stareatme9983 Жыл бұрын
Disney is just going to revive palpatine or there will be another Death Star they can’t do anything original with the Skywalker trilogy they will just disappoint us again.
@FyrFytr998
@FyrFytr998 Жыл бұрын
If Disney wants people to respect the Sequel trilogy, they HAVE TO flesh out the storyline through good TV shows to make up for the missteps of Abrams and Johnson.
@101spacecase
@101spacecase Жыл бұрын
I'm slowly coming around to this.
@thedude0000
@thedude0000 Жыл бұрын
_missteps of Abrams and Johnson_ Honestly, I don't blame these two, because they are both strong willed and talented directors. They were given the keys and ran with it as they saw fit. I blame the higher ups at Lucas Film for not putting parameters on their freedom of script and storytelling.
@jackdubz4247
@jackdubz4247 Жыл бұрын
@@thedude0000 No, no, no... They are both professional writers/directors/producers, they have decades of experience between them. They both knew what the parameters were going in. They are the ones who screwed the pooch with the ST. All blame rests squarely on their shoulders. They aren't naughty schoolkids, getting away with murder because the substitute teacher can't control the classroom.
@thedude0000
@thedude0000 Жыл бұрын
@@jackdubz4247 _They both knew what the parameters were going in_ That's my ENTIRE POINT....there were no parameters put in place at all. That is a leadership failure by Lucas Films.
@FyrFytr998
@FyrFytr998 Жыл бұрын
@@thedude0000 I agree. Imagine that. Telling two directors to make me a movie as you see fit, then being surprised they are nothing alike. I’m fairly certain had it not been for the Clone Wars animated series, people would still have disdain for the prequels. So they should go back to that well and really get into the guts of the first orders rise, and the fall of Luke’s academy.
@anthonypc1
@anthonypc1 Жыл бұрын
0:16 Wow Doug the dog is a really good ventriloquist!
@ericc8790
@ericc8790 Жыл бұрын
You are right that Filoni and Favreau are so deep in the weeds that it’s really beginning to compromise the quality of what’s being put out… they rely sooooo heavily on Easter eggs, Easter eggs, Easter eggs… expanded universe reference… hey, look we brought such-and-such to live action!… that it’s really all taking the place of good story telling. And you can’t lean on all that to the detriment of good story telling. Book Of Bobba Fett was a great example of this. You can’t just throw Bobba Fett on screen and have that be enough… you can’t just be all like, hey here he is riding a Rankor… it’s like all they are really focused on is Easter eggs and deep cut references. They have their checklist, they run through those and then they sprinkle in some plots points here and there as filler. It’s not good story telling.
@Influx27
@Influx27 Жыл бұрын
_BoBF_ was more than a bunch of references. It did tell a decent story about wanting to move on from a life of crime and of consolidating power. My only major gripe was that we spent a little too much time on Tattoine. The sand people just weren't interesting enough to support so much of the show. Would've been better if they explored more about Boba after the Clone Wars started.
@No.1GodzillaGlazer
@No.1GodzillaGlazer Жыл бұрын
BOBF's main problem was that it was basically Mando s3 trailer with 2 episodes about him and Cad bane dying(why)
@bigmikebeebee
@bigmikebeebee Жыл бұрын
@Eric C completely disagree. I enjoyed the storytelling in BoBF and have never seen any of the animated series, so had no background Easter egg knowledge other than having seen the movies. I'm sure they're nice to have for people that catch them, but are in no way vital to the viewing experience.
@GonzoTehGreat
@GonzoTehGreat Жыл бұрын
I think there's just too much being expected of them. Typically, you'd have different creative leads behind each of these shows (stories), with someone with a vision for the SWU overseeing the overall creative direction. Lucasfilm still don't have the latter and are relying too much on Filoni and Favreau for the former. Andor was a superb spy story which was consistent with the SWU, yet it didnt stray from the established timeline. Lucasfilm do seem to be bringing on board more storytellers to explore the wider SWU timeline.
@skankinhotrod
@skankinhotrod Жыл бұрын
I’ve seen Star Wars 500 times. Star Wars #1!
@Don-Yeti
@Don-Yeti Жыл бұрын
I'm most hyped for the Dawn of the Jedi. I'm also surprisingly excited for the Rey trilogy with the 15-year time jump. That's a bold announcement. Let's just hope this plan works out better than before.
@EStephensII
@EStephensII Жыл бұрын
In Filoni we trust 🙏🏽
@botz77
@botz77 Жыл бұрын
They're not going to make those movies. The Dave Filoni movie will be made, but all the other ones are dubious at best.
@Jabberstax
@Jabberstax Жыл бұрын
Especially when the coming Disney+ shows flop.
@batmanwins5701
@batmanwins5701 Жыл бұрын
Colton looks sharp and made some great points in his first statement. I’m very excited about most of what is coming up! It’s great to see some exciting starwars content coming from various points in the time line. I would love a kotor revan adaptation 😍
@spacemanspiff3052
@spacemanspiff3052 Жыл бұрын
I’m cautiously optimistic that Lucasfilm is back on course to great storytelling, but I still see rough seas ahead. I am very excited to see Dave Filoni get a chance to direct . . . he’s earned this shot and I am not a risk adverse Star Wars fan. A lot of trendy big names in Hollywood got a chance to produce Star Wars theatrical content, but Filoni is the fixer whose love for the SW universe and ability to tell fun stories with compelling characters rehabilitated the mess that was the Prequels (Lucas did some great world building and delivered some very memorable characters, but the the Prequel’s scripts were trash for both Episodes 1 & 2). I really dislike the Disney Sequels, Episode 7 was unoriginal, Episode 8 (which I dislike the least) was boldly daring but uneven and was a disservice to both beloved characters newly introduced character development, and Episode 9 was total garbage. I wish Lucasfilm just cut bait on future storytelling involving the Disney Sequels, but it’s possible that Filoni’s magic could rehabilitate the Sequels just like the Prequels as he works to connect the story threads from New Republic to First Order. However, I think it’s a heavier lift. At least Filoni is smart enough to try to use amazing SW Legends story line ideas from successful past works like “Heir to the Empire” to pull of his fix. Star Wars exists in a big galaxy, so I’m not as eager as some to explore new timelines within that galaxy as some. I love the OG Civil War era in Star Wars. Yet, I also think there is room for more than “pew-pew, boom-boom” in Star Wars. I know, I know . . . “Wars” is in the name, but exploration, adventure, and human drama in a exotic galaxy is an area of growth I’d love to see within the Star Wars theatrical and movie franchise.
@darthmorty
@darthmorty Жыл бұрын
After watching this it definitely got me thinking. I am now excited to see how the galaxy plays out in the Rey movie that’s coming. Basically we haven’t know the galaxy without the empire or the republic being present so it’s going to be interesting to see what happens. Will all the systems at this point be independent? Will it be like WW1 where in the Star Wars universe multiple systems start building up their own armies? At that point we’re really starting to dive into the Warhammer 40k type of thing where everyone is fighting to be top of the chain. A lot of interesting stuff. Also the prequel movie is going to be very exciting, maybe we can possibly move forward eventually to the Old Republic era.
@onion4620
@onion4620 Жыл бұрын
The problem for me anyway with going back to the beginning is we know where it’s going we know how it ends. I want a new story not one where I know the ending.
@pt2k645
@pt2k645 Жыл бұрын
I’m most excited about these announcements because how sustainable they are. Dave Filoni is not going anywhere, so even if the movie peters out, there’s room for a Netflix/Marvel Defenders team up on Disney+. Mangold has a relationship with Lucasfilm with Indy 5, so they’re less likely to just walk away from it, but even if they do, it’s not a false start for the saga because it’s a 25,000 year flashback, so there’s no hurry to tell the story. Rey restarting the Jedi is an interesting project because there’s so much flexibility. If it lumbers across the finish line, then it can be a one-off. If they really like it and it has legs, it can be Episode X!
@desallis
@desallis Жыл бұрын
6:04 "Daisy Ridley is one of the most talented actors to ever perform in a Star Wars" Alec Guinness and Harrison Ford "Am I a Joke to you?"
@jonesz75
@jonesz75 Жыл бұрын
Wait... are you telling me Ryan is the voice of Doug!? MIND BLOWN!
@SatMornPod
@SatMornPod Жыл бұрын
The best example of a TV show making a great movie is "Batman" '66. Hopefully Dave Filoni will follow that formula.
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