Star Wars Obi-Wan Kenobi: A Phantom Hope

[@avatar6699]

Reva.. the actress 'acting her ass off'.. by being an 'angry person' at every single moment she is on screen. Yeah, stunning and award-winning work.

[@jiminverness]

Yeah. : (

[@yuukimasamura5143]

She sounds like Cardi B

[@williampearson6299]

@@yuukimasamura5143 She's actually channeling Anakin and Kylo Ren. They were annoying angry young males too

[@kjmanoni]

loved trilla, reva is pretty cringe

[@darkwolfe6286]

There is absolutely nothing unique are engaging about her character. She is like a plain flat piece of paper. Maybe her arc will be she develops a personality and can get of the hate train 🤔

[@savagedarksider5934]

I don't care about Disney stat wars; I only care about Legends.

[@notataco4203]

Based old republic is my shit

[@savagedarksider5934]

@@notataco4203 The entire old republic is better than Disney Star Wars.

[@daniell1483]

Screw Canon, it can go die in a fire. Legends is where hope still lives.

[@DiehardFanInTraining]

Me too

[@carbon-based-lifeform9172]

@@KeybladeMasterAndy it's basically for little kids

[@Robisme]

So far it looks like Ewan Mcgregor is carrying this show on his back. Acting wise. Some points to Joel. He sounds like Owen Lars.

[@ninetyZeven]

I got hopes for the Japanese hat guy.

[@agua246]

Oh c'mon give it a chance it's not that bad bruh

[@williampearson6299]

@@ninetyZeven These companies don't care for Asian men. They'll cast Michelle Yeoh and Ming Na Wen, though.

[@NekoBoyOfficial]

Jimmy Smitts is also good as usual.

[@agua246]

@Jéster I respect that but its honestly its not that bad other than that sith reva. Its pretty good when it gets to the kidnapping of Leia.

[@rockdragon3]

We went from "Leia has about as much control of the force as Han". To "Leia can not only fly but create a force shield bubble around herself with no training" To "Leia has actually been using the force from childhood, longer than Luke"

[@Lobsterwithinternet]

Yeah. That's just stupid. Not to mention that it contradicts what Leia says in the original trilogy about seeing her mother’s face.

[@benjaminthibieroz4155]

@@Lobsterwithinternet That, and the fact she clearly tells Luke his powers are totally foreign to her.

[@Lobsterwithinternet]

@@benjaminthibieroz4155 Yep.

[@roberthesser6402]

@@Lobsterwithinternet The prequels already contradicted that.

[@vincentgraymore]

This is what people that want more get. Writers write for 1 offs but when demand is there, they write prequels and sequels, which has to have higher stakes and worse for the world building power levels in order to have the audience hooked. It is why FF VII remake, which is a narrative sequel, has to have reality+history+time warping & fate manifested as gods stakes, instead of a mad man throwing a stone at a planet to gulp up the insides and a desperate odd out gang managing to defeat him despite all odds. It is all so stupid.

[@SoldierSpiderx]

Seeing the homeless clone was so heartbreaking and surreal. The clones in general are definitely Lucas’s meta commentary on war and veterans and now we’ve seen the endpoint. It’s tragically fitting and I really dislike that Reva just knows who Vader is. Vader's identity is a very closely guarded in the Empire; only the Emperor truly knows, while people like Tarkin and Thrawn have very strong suspicions. Vader would not let someone who knows his identity live unless he could not get away with killing them, i.e. Tarkin, Thrawn, Palpatine.

[@daniell1483]

The moment of Obi-Wan finding out Vader is Anakin is portrayed so much better in the Legends continuity. There was a comic with the moment in it, you see the devastation as well as the blind PANIC of knowing the fallen messiah is still alive and hunting Jedi like a rabid dog.

[@sinistavoicez]

@Lokabrenna 501st armor at that.

[@subjectnivleis7572]

With how bad batch ended and how how clone wars portray deserting there should be no clone beggers Kamino is dead the few remaining clones work for the empire and any who didn't obey are considered traitors and hunted down and killed by Disney's own canon that clone should not exist

[@subjectnivleis7572]

@@daniell1483 he's always know he was Vader Yoda literally told him. The boy you trained gone he is consumed by darth Vader how are people acting like this some big gasp moment when he's know for a decade how anyone know is beyond me as his children as well as Vader identity is supposed to be top secret

[@MrKrtek00]

That scene was really strange. They acted as if Obivan was surprised that Vader was mentioned, which makes no sense, and even her reaction to it was "oh, you didn't know Anakin is alive"

[@asciiavatar]

Shortly after the 'Revenge of the Sith' there was a novel that was released I believe called 'Dark Lord' which was set I think like less than a year after the movie. It details Vader's early years hunting Jedi. The point is that I believe near the end of the novel, Kenobi is in a bar on Tatooine and sees a news broadcast where Vader is not only mentioned but shown. Kenobi at this point recognizes Anakin survived and it reinforces his need to protect Luke. But I suppose that's now 'Legends'.

[@Aerex12]

Yeah that is what I remember now it is retconned. Gosh man Disney always retcon every book that they didn't make. Does know one in Lucasfilm care about the books before Disney?

[@zeroattentiongaming820]

@@Aerex12 Do you not remember that none of that is canon since Disney bought the franchise? Everything that existed before that except for the movies and The Clone Wars is non canon to Disney's universe. Of course they don't care about it. They threw the entire fucking expanded universe away.

[@Aerex12]

@@zeroattentiongaming820 Yes I am aware but I don't remember if that particular book had the Legend tag applied to it. I know there is a watermark on each book that is marked as Legends iirc

[@zeroattentiongaming820]

@@Aerex12 If it isn't in the movies or The Clone Wars, it falls under the Legends category. At this rate the Disney canon is just a shitty knockoff anyway. Kylo was lame Jacen, Rey was Ken Palpatine, TROS was even more nonsensical Dark Empire without the Luke vs prime Palpatine duel. Vader is the one thing Disney seems to have some respect for. They do him justice whenever they bring him out. Both Fallen Order and Rebels portrayed him like a walking force of nature, one you don't stop, you just hope to survive. Rogue One and the comics gave him iconic scenes of mass slaughter. If this show continues that, could be pretty great. I've already got some major issues with Reva somehow knowing who he is and the possibility of Vader fighting Kenobi on Tatooine, but there's potential. Remains to be seen if they do Ben justice but it makes sense for him to be a defeated hermit unlike Luke at least. Though there is one minor aspect I have to praise Disney for, which I never expected. The fact they keep showing Tatooine wildlife that looks like it belongs in water. In Kotor Tatooine was revealed to have been an ocean planet before the Rakatta nuked it into a sand ball. Very unexpected that Disney keeps referencing that idea.

[@TheGoodLuc]

@@zeroattentiongaming820 Ken Palpatine :)

[@shawnpanzegraf5642]

I have a big problem with the idea that an INQUISITOR would have the gall to abduct the daughter of Bail Organa. Even VADER didn’t move on Leia until they’d acquired incontrovertible evidence she was engaged in treason. If Palpatine found out an Imperial had done something guaranteed to engender widespread sympathy for the Alderaanians, and resentment against the Empire on the extreme long shot a Jedi in such deep hiding he’s survived the Purge for a decade might HAPPEN to be in a position to hear about an abduction that’s likely happened happened on the opposite side of the galaxy from him, he’d at least have her tortured for idiocy. Any Inquisitor should know how severe the consequences for trying (and failing) at a gambit like that would be, and be understandably reluctant to take such a course of action. Does the Third Sister hate Obi Wan so unreasoningly, she’s willing to risk dying a bad death WITHOUT gaining her revenge?

[@josephsdots6011]

It’s Disney. Don’t think about it too much. Just consume.

[@earendildawn4902]

@@josephsdots6011 yea...im not a big fan of star wars and dont know the lore...but now when I watch anything Starwars, I set a low expectation. The story and characters seem so so shallow and thin. Nothing deep, nothing that lights up my brain. A few years ago with Ray it was oo I'm there to see light saber fights. Movies started out good then turn bad quickly. Now I'm like...ahh I'm just here to see how bad this new series or movie is....

[@billybob-zk9nm]

@@earendildawn4902 let me just say that the pre Disney, lore was crazy. It would typically be a set publishing house for eras and the such, like del rey publishing did mostly post endor lore for example, and all the authors who worked on star wars with del rey would collaborate together to make the lore match with one another, even if they were in different “series” of books, which a series would cover either big events and take multiple in universe years and be 20 books long or would be a short story or smaller event, and be like 1-5 books. Then u had dark horse doing the comics, but still working with del rey lore and vice versa of del rey working with dark horse. It was surprisingly really streamlined in creating and expanding lore, I dont think there was much retconning at all, but there were some pretty weak stories at some points, but it was such a big expanded universe that was to be expected.

[@neocomp92]

Also apparently the Grand Inquisitor found out about the scheme, but either he did not communicate this to Vader, or Vader does not care. Because in Episode 3, Vader offered Reva the position of Grand Inquisitor if she catches Obi-Wan. Sith may encourage underlings to kill their way up, but that does not mean the master should offer his neck at the first sign of insubordination. That just goes against the Darwinian logic of the Sith.

[@xenofett7008]

My issues with the show are the killing of the Grand Inquisitor, who isn't supposed to meet his demise for several years until Star Wars Rebels. There's also a problem with Kenobi rescuing Leia. In ANH Leia knows very little about Kenobi aside from stories Bail told her. It rewrites the lore and puts a tarnish on the OT.

[@tonic9539]

ive brought those same two points up in other videos. when leia sends that message its to someone who her dad knew not someone who she knows because he rescued her 7 years ago. Edit: and the whole grand inquisitor thing is so stupid. rebels in disney canan and they still messed it up.

[@mizu7662]

I find it likely they are going to reveal he isn't actually dead somehow.

[@MichaSennin]

Kenobi will most likely alter her memories of said day. but that would be a huge deal for him. but its disney so i think this is what will happen. because jedi possess the power to erase memories.

[@rosvokersantti]

Oh silly fans, thinking that the writers at Disney care about the lore... Didn't Kathleen Kennedy even complain that they didn't have any source material for the new trilogy?

[@Dreamfox-df6bg]

Maul and Vader survived worse. Although that would make Reva incompetent at murder. And even if he is dead, wasn't Reva the only one around him with a lightsaber at the time of his death? I mean it's pretty clear what caused the wound. I'm sure Palpatine and Vader will forget she murdered or tried to murder another inquisitor. I guess she is the best at what she does, which is failing. You know the funny thing? She could have set up this trap (as ridiculous as it was), lied to the Grand Inquisitor with a weak tip from a personal informant not worth for all of them going there, but in case it was useful she has to go because the informant would only talk to her. Then Reva would be there when Obi-Wan tries to rescue Leia. Getting not only Obi-Wan, but also acting like she saved Leia on top of it. That would stop any possible repercussions from Bail Organa, because he would have to admit knowing where a known felon has been hiding. Heck, he'd have to act thankful in public.

[@hisdudeness8328]

They totally f’d the entire plot up in episode two by having Reva somehow being able to read people’s minds. When that was revealed I couldn’t help but think, “Gee, you think that power might have been useful on Tatutooen when you were Jedi hunting?” That power literally makes everything she did in episode One pointless. But why should I expect good writing from this crop of talentless hacks.

[@masc6287]

I thought that force powers that involved the mind worked on weak minds with weak wills but difficult on strong minds with strong wills, which is why it could not be used on Tatutooen in that situation. Kind of like in the Disney prequel where Kylo interrogated Rey but struggled more.

[@tyrotech6916]

agreed. how can she read minds and fight if she has to parkour and scream at people to get what she wants? why does she randomly show being unable to do Padawan level powers and then other points hold stronger force powers

[@claybmt]

I checked out when Reva disobeyed and disrespected her boss several times and all she got was a stern talking to instead of a lightsaber to the face that any true sith would have given her.

[@wolftal1178]

If this story had been set maybe one year after revenge of the Sith it could’ve been believable. You could argue that Obi-Wan was simply hiding from the Galaxy so much he didn’t know about public events but considering he knows about the inquisitors I think you’re right, after 10 years it’s a bit much to believe he knew nothing of Vader being alive. Disney has been famously known for clumsy writing when it comes to Star Wars. They seem to think familiar faces and overdone graphics and battle scenes can make up for clumsy writing.

[@adrianchatman5734]

Ok hold up... Obi Wan saw Palpatine call Anakin, Vader on the security Holo and heard Yoda call Anakin, Vader. Unless Vader was somehow deep in hiding (he wasn't), why was Obi Wan so shocked that Vader was alive? Did he think someone else was called Darth Vader? Wasn't Vader going around hunting Jedi and spreading fear? Why would Obi Wan not know that? Yeesh that's a massive plot hole....

[@Lobsterwithinternet]

Not as bad as Kenobi leaving Tatooine to save Leia. Or some random person not only knowing about Vader’s identity but also finding Obi-Wan Kenobi when Vader or the Emperor themselves couldn't.

[@adrianchatman5734]

@@Lobsterwithinternet very true. Reva was more competent than both of the lords of the Sith combined lol! Yeah that was bad...

[@MisterCPU]

That's how information travels in Star Wars as of TFA. Nobody knows anything.

[@scott96999]

Yeah I mean the show is b-rate junk so...

[@roberthesser6402]

Small nitpick, Vader's existence was kept a closely guarded secret for much of the Empire's reign. He was the Emperor's secret enforcer, sent in to clean up the worst messes--usually with no survivors. At best there were rumors of a shadowy demonic presence but nothing concrete, and certainly nothing that would reach Obi-Wan when he's isolated himself completely from the galaxy on a backwater like Tatooine.

[@darrengaroutte7744]

I believe at the end of the novelization of Revenge of the Sith Obi-wan saw Vader on a newscast or something and realized with disbelief that Anakin survived their duel. Also, the star wars girl pointed out that it's been established by the Asoka novel published under the Disney era that Asoka works for Bail Organa, I believe under the code name fulcrum. There are just so many issues with this story right off the bat, can't Disney just hire some actual hardcore nerds? I'm sure there's plenty that will work on the cheap and do a better job than the so-called professionals they currently have.

[@kimbertactpro9]

The people in charge won't listen to the hardcore nerds. There's news where in the new rings of power that several Tolkien experts were run out of the office for pushing back too much against the woke stuff. Heck, even in star wars, Dave Filonie had ignored the lore keeper he was assigned when making clone wars.

[@Fwibos]

Reva isn't a subplot. it is the plot. They added it because muh diversity.

[@greenliongirl07]

The way of Disney is now the path of disappointment.

[@ShadeShaadent]

Bro it’s been the path of dissapoimtment since the the force awakens.

[@scott96999]

This is the way

[@quantgeekery6358]

Rogue One is 🔥. The only Disney Star Wars movie that added to the original.

[@scottdoesntmatter4409]

except for the bits where flirting with robots becomes a thing

[@josequintana3669]

Dead on. The only one worthy of serious canon and lore.

[@marcthomas5949]

Every new star wars thing to me makes order 66 less meaningful. it went from killing all but like 4 jedi to probably only killing 20 in total.

[@mitchellalexander9162]

There Is No Disney. Only Legends. There Is No Disney. Only Legends.

[@kerberos623]

EU.... ;-)

[@nicholasbrooks3997]

If we actually rewatch the 1st Star Wars, you actually can imply that Leah doesn't even KNOW Obi-Wan personally..

[@Lobsterwithinternet]

All she says is Obi-Wan served her father during the Clone Wars.

[@jaytalks8091]

The thing is this: unlike all the other Disney Star Wars shows thus far, this isn’t about some secondary character where mistakes and continuity errors might be overlooked. This show is about the very heart of the Star Wars saga itself. Plot holes and continuity errors are unforgivable. So while, for example, Obi not knowing that Vader was still alive might seem like a small flaw in a semi-decent show (and I debate that point, but I’ll return to this point), such a flaw (along with many others) in fact ruins the whole show. Disney had no room for error here. Everything needed to be perfect. It is FAR from that. Your point that Obi-Wan would be a broken man at this point is quite right. But what Disney has actually done is this: they used plausible elements of the lore to give us the characters they always want to give us: Jake Kenobi and Mary Sue Organa. Make no mistake this show is painfully Woke. I don’t think 𝘒𝘦𝘯𝘰𝘣𝘪 is very good at all. The story has no nuance, the characters have unclear motivations, it’s a lazy and recycled formula (surrogate dad/McGuffin super-kid), and it’s disrespectful to the lore. Why is Disney afraid of lightsaber action? A Jedi dies due to Inquisitors and not a lightsaber duel to be seen. That wouldn’t have happened if this was 𝘛𝘩𝘦 𝘊𝘭𝘰𝘯𝘦 𝘞𝘢𝘳𝘴-or even 𝘙𝘦𝘣𝘦𝘭𝘴 for that matter. The lack of sophistication for character behavior kills the dramatic tension. This isn’t a show for actual adults. The aforementioned 𝘛𝘩𝘦 𝘊𝘭𝘰𝘯𝘦 𝘞𝘢𝘳𝘴 did this better; TCW could set up proper stakes in mere minutes-despite being a “kids” show. I don’t even want to get into the lore-breaking cluster that will be Kenobi’s meeting Vader. Your opening statement on what Disney Star Wars is is sadly far too on point.

[@williampearson6299]

Yes, its for kids. Star Wars is for kids. George said so himself. He had made them for young 11 or 12 years olds.

[@SolracNexus]

@@williampearson6299 some people grew up watching the battle of umbara, order 66, and intergalactic trade disputes instead of watching teddy bears owning stormtroopers. It's still for kids, but it's not an excuse to please that demographic while insulting the rest; kids aren't critical of what they watch anyway, and we should know because we were kids once

[@zatoby6705]

@@williampearson6299 except a lot of children's stories have the longest lasting appeal.

[@simonbarnett8668]

@@williampearson6299 So rewatch the Lucas written and directed Revenge of the Sith and tell me that's a "kids story". I was in my twenties when that came out and I don't think the parents of my neices and nephews would've been too happy if I took them to that film in the theatre, like I was shown the original trilogy by my extended family(Admittedly my generation was shown Robocop, Predator, Rambo, Terminator etc., well under the recommended age by 'cool' uncle's or older cousins, although they were under no illusion they were 'for kids').

[@oxymoxym7371]

you should get out more.

[@daniell1483]

Wow, that is disappointing. Especially since in the lore, there is a procedure that Force users undergo where they cut themselves off from the Force so they can't use the Force as a type of penance. Especially since I think Obi-Wan would still be an absolute unit even without the Force!

[@pickedceasar1216]

He hadn't trained in a decade and I don't think he cut himself off from the force but he doesn't use force abilities but even still in Fallen Order Cal uses the force in the exact same scenario as Obi Wan

[@finger3306]

Maybe but canonically kenobi isn't that great of a duelist with a lightsaber

[@darkwolfe6286]

@@finger3306 This is true as well as his connection to the force was like barely above the acceptable level for a jedi. So he had to work hard and develope his skills (ie. Hard Work vs Natural Talent ) so Kenobi changing his light saber style from form IV to Form III does make more sense.

[@Wizardjunior77]

@@finger3306 canonically the man is Thee master of form 3 Soresu which is the defensive style of lightsaber combat.

[@Wizardjunior77]

@@finger3306 canonically the man is Thee master of form 3 Soresu which is the defensive style of lightsaber combat.

[@rcalice1234]

Palpatine also dubed Anakin "Vader" in the hologram security footage in revenge of the Sith

[@jimtanner1689]

Reva is the worst part. I've never seen someone fight ever scene so hard and yet still end up chewing the scenery. Hearing her screech "Obi-Wan!" is like nails on the chalkboard

[@AlSidre]

I haven't watched it yet, but I recently read the Legends novel Kenobi and it is amazing.

[@deathsdoor07]

I hate the first half of that book. Then again I thought Hessad was going to be in it.

[@orestmarkheva7325]

No need to watch it yet. So far it's uneventful slugfast. I have a feeling thet writers didn't watch SW past Episode 3

[@mr_h831]

You know the show literally addresses the lack of sending an army, they genuinely question their own writing choice. However, I assume the real reason an army isnt sent is because Bail csnt trust an army to get the job done without the girl being harmed. He even tells obiwan specifically that, "there is no one in this galaxy I trust with my daughter more than you." So it was my assumption it's not nessecairly a logistics issue or anything else, but that it's a matter of trust. Who can he really trust to get the job done? Bail remember young obiwan, the man who got the mission done in despite of the odds, the man who always kept his cool and had a smile on his face while in the midst of blaster fire. Not this broken, sad, and lost man we see in the first 2 episodes. Obviously he hasn't contacted obiwan in some time, as when we see that box the items within are in prestine condition, he hasn't used those since episode 3. I don't think the show has done a terrible job, buuuuuuuut.... If they go the way of bobba fett I will be very disappointed. This is supposed to be a show about obiwan, not about these other characters.

[@claudewinters2091]

However Kenobi is being hunted by the greatest military in SW existence at this point + the bounty hunters, grifters, inquisitors etc..... Agreeing to go look for & rescue Leia is akin to a death wish... The chance that he would run right into the very ppl hunting him becomes extremely high ... And if it's discovered that Kenobi was Indeed rescuing her then massive suspicion would immediately fall on the Organa family and Vader himself would most likely investigate... Not to mention Kenobi's whole mission is to protect Luke... So this new mission would likely turn eyes back unto Kenobi's whereabouts.. confirmed he was alive and make it harder to hide. .... And failure to protect Luke puts then entire galaxy at risk.... Or should I say Galaxies at risk ..... Trillions of lives ... At risk ..

[@mr_h831]

@@claudewinters2091 "hunted" is a strong word when referring to the military as a whole. The inquisitors do the hunting, stormtroopers and army guys just report if they've spotted a jedi. Then they go after them. Trick is not getting spotted.

[@claudewinters2091]

@@mr_h831 ok... I get what you are saying.... He isn't actively being hunted by the whole military... But aspects of the empire's military which the inquisitors are, are definitely hunting him.... Because nobody is 100% sure he is alive since he hasn't been seen or heard from while hiding, I don't imagine any serious resources are hunting him specifically... But once the empire is 100% sure he is alive.... Everyone connected to him is automatically in serious danger and becomes a target of the empire.... Oh did the show explain why Kenobi specifically must find Leia? It can't be that it's because the script said so ... Am I missing something?.. Bail organa has alot of power and can't be that only this 1 guy hiding in the middle of nowhere is the only hope...

[@mr_h831]

@@claudewinters2091 My guess is this particular mission may be a Vader only thing. Heck the emperor may not even care if kenobi is still alive, we see in epiaode 6 he's quite arrogant.

[@TankHunter678]

Not to mention that Obi-Wan meeting Leia before Episode 4 is continuity breaking since Leia would reference the time he saved her when she was 10 instead of his service in the Clone Wars.

[@jklolnikampoop]

The true story now known as "legends" material is so much better and makes way more sense

[@TheBigExclusive]

In the old canon, Obi Wan already knew Anakin survived and was Darth Vader. Not sure why Disney decided to change it and turn it into a big reveal.

[@Lobsterwithinternet]

Let me just say I always thought that doing a series centered on Obi-Wan watching over Luke on Tatooine was a stupid idea. There really isn't anything you can have him do for a show or movie that won't contradict established canon. Plus, we really don't need to know what he did while on Tatooine. Just like we don't need to know what Yoda did on Dagoba.

[@mahoutsuguy863]

The show couldve done well in an Arrow like format. Have modern day Obi deal with one thing in modern day and have flashbacks to clone wars era adventures of Anakin, Oni and other charactees for fan service. The main story doesnt need to be big and fancy, just introspective. But I agree, following obi during these years...there are more interesting things to do and Rebels already did the most interesting.

[@ARZiehm]

@@mahoutsuguy863 Agreed. That seemed like such an obvious route but apparently the billion dollar franchise with expensive writers can’t (or won’t) figure out the basics.

[@filipvadas7602]

Once again, Ewan Mcgregor carries whatever piece of SW content he's in. These continuity errors are basically a death by a thousand paper cuts for the show.

[@TheLegendaryBillCipher]

There is no passion in this project, there is no passion in Disney Star Wars, and it shows.

[@skotnica93]

In Rebels Obi-Wan rose above all that is presented in this series.

[@yusukeelric]

So, this is Picard all over again. The name is in the title but the character is a secondary character in his own show.

[@jrutter73]

The actress was "trying" to act, but failed miserably. She's NOT threatening, intimidating or even believable as an Inquisitor. Didn't buy her at all and it nothing to do with being a her...it was the actress, the lines, and the delivery. And the lead Inquisitor goes out like a chump, he knew she was unstable, should have seen/felt it coming a mile away and grabbed her wrist as the lightsaber came out and said, "what do you think you're doing, you think that can work on me?" Total joke. If and when she kills him later, it would have given the death/betrayal so much more weight. STUPID!!!!

[@paranoyd70]

Yet another bait & switch, what a surprise. Its become a safe bet that if Disney or any other woke company decides to do a series or movie starring a Whte Male, that they will become a side-character in their own show, in favor of a diverse woke wahmen of "diversity." Add it to the list of an ever growing list. Lets see, we now have... HawkEye, Moon Knight, Halo, Boba-Fett, Witcher, Dr Strange, Obi-Wan-Kenobi, the upcoming Thor, and more that I don't care enough to mention.

[@sentakuselect]

Its silly because the Inquisitors also mentioned that they'd be "in big doos doos" if the Empire found out that Reva set up the kidnapping of Leia too. I bet Obi-Wan's whole training Luke thing and telling the rogue Jedi to bury his Lightsaber and hide got retooled to fit Fallen Order/Cal Kestis as the show coincidentally happens around the game too. Trilla >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Reva lol

[@jaytalks8091]

Agree on Trilla vs Reva!

[@williampearson6299]

Mainstream don't know who you are talking about. Even if she was playing Trilla, Star Wars fans would still hate her for not channeling her well. Clone Wars Obiwan and Anakin were modeled AFTER the actors so they did better to animate from their likeness.

[@thebaron2277]

Trilla is the best female star wars Villian not including one's from books (like Darth Talion or Darth Zanna)

[@sentakuselect]

@@williampearson6299 What? I was just saying how Trilla is a way better Inquisitor/character/villain than Reva seeing how they both have the same origin story (both Padawans abandoned and captured by the Empire raised with great hatred towards the Jedi). If you didn't know, the two main characters of SW Fallen Order are also modelled after real life actors too (Cameron Monaghan and Debra Wilson), for those who didn't play the game, I bet they'll be watching all the cutscenes after the rumored appearance of Cal Kestis (Cameron Monaghan) in Obi-Wan. It's a very good game and I'm hyped for SW Jedi: Survivor.

[@williampearson6299]

@@sentakuselect Fine. Just change her name if they are basically the same character. This isn't Reva, this is Trilla.

[@hyperbolicninja]

I can't walk down this road with you, the show has already broken too many things for me to say it's good. Your video is really well made, like all your videos. I was with you till the last minute. My dislike is a little unfair as I have no criticism to offer other than I disagree with you saying its a good show.

[@yuukimasamura5143]

Did you know that it costs like ¥300 for just 3 potatoes,now? What’s up with that!? Cool story, bro.

[@hyperbolicninja]

@@yuukimasamura5143 I guess you're trying to say my comment makes no sense. That's fine.

[@UltraGalaxyify]

@@yuukimasamura5143 So basically a few bucks. What's your point?

[@mahoutsuguy863]

The show breaking lore is enough reason to give for why youre out. Imho.

[@sonicfighter64]

@@hyperbolicninja yeah I agree it’s too far gone to me as well I just now hope Star Wars dies soon so it will no longer suffer from Disney

[@Acrocanthosaurus]

I'm done being punished by bad Star Wars.

[@williampearson6299]

It's time for new audiences to enjoy without shrill fans. People aren't supposed to gatekeep this hard. Nerds are worse than Rap and Hip Hop gatekeepers

[@spaceranger7375]

@@williampearson6299 People aren't opposing new fans and ideas, all are welcome as long as they respect the lore. Disney doesn't, and everything they do feels like bad fanfics getting published and made as new canon.

[@williampearson6299]

@@spaceranger7375 Perhaps this should be a lesson. We mustn't hold onto things. You had your hopes up for the continuation of Star Wars but now it's being commodified for the masses.

[@williampearson6299]

@@spaceranger7375 Okay. Sure, Disney is messing it up. In fact, JJ messed up the new trilogy. They need new stories without centering around the Skywalkers.

[@tesharakhiru3720]

@@williampearson6299 Reva is the new face -BLM

[@KyleDornez]

I mean in the Kenobi novel Ben realized that the moment he got to a news caster. It's very hard to believe that in TEN YEARS Obi-Wan never saw literally any news on Tattoine.

[@adrianchatman5734]

Exactly. Considering who he is and his status, you'd think he'd keep up on current events to keep himself and Luke safe lol.

[@ponthackslayer3339]

The Kenobi novel is from the Expanded Universe, not Disney trash.

[@theliato3809]

A decent premise for a book or comic turned into a show which then got smashed in with an inqusition show after they realized what kind of show it is and turned into a mess which will likely do neither any favor.

[@leoncampbell8616]

The thing i noticed about these episodes is that they know what they are doing, they are choosing to go off the rails with unnecessary things that dont need to be their to fill their check boxes, that has been proven to no work to not sell. Man just come here to see obi-wans day to day struggles with his mission of observing luke and trying to stay prepared to train if anything while dodging not being found out.

[@mr_indie_fan]

6 movies, 1 show, a handful of games, all the legends books, nothing else, that is star wars. We don't talk about anything from disney and we never will.

[@mr_indie_fan]

The force unleashed is canon and you cannot convince me otherwise.

[@michaelw.a.collins2988]

How he does not about Vader he isolated him self so well that he only knows what happened on the planet

[@R-A-9]

Like this obi-wan show the book of boba fett pivoted away from Boba. He went from proactive “crime boss” to reactive character in his on series

[@chaplainnormie]

@11:44, “So much time. So many things to screw…” giggity.

[@a.j.e4349]

Thought the Leia chase scene in the woods was another copy of Home Alone!

[@OkrutnyBorsuk]

Reva is going to kick Obi-wan's ass in a duel later in the show. I guarantee it. It's going to be the same thing as with Rey and Kylo.

[@Yarblocosifilitico]

the fake Jedi is also apparently the only person Reva would hesitate to be violent with

[@Cowracer67]

He's a POC, so he gets a pass

[@Off-Brand_Devin]

Glad you picked up on Obi-Wan telling the one guy the Jedi are over while also saying he needs to train Luke. I thought that was an odd inconsistency in the character. I liked everything with Obi-Wan directly, and Ewan McGregor nailed it when he learns Anakin's still alive like you said. But I pretty much disliked everything else. I don't disagree the actress playing Reva is giving it her all, I'm just not sure her all is that good. She can't seem to pull off menacing, which so far is all that's been required of here. So, maybe she was just miscast. Then again, I'm guessing she'll be on the side of good before too long, but we'll see. Leia is played by an adorable actress, but I think the characterization is just awful. It's like she's exactly the fully formed Leia we see in A New Hope just in a 10 year old body. I get the impression they're trying to portray her as longing for adventure just like Luke. But that's dumb. Luke was stuck on a moisture farm in the middle of nowhere, unable to pursue any of his dreams because his familial obligation to Owen and Beru. Leia is living in the lap of luxury, part of a dynamic political court, and is pretty much unlimited opportunity. Why would she be bored and longing for adventure? Because she has obligations she doesn't like? Luke had to fix vaparators on a planet with two suns and no women. The writers seem scared to death to portray Leia as having even a remote interest in her life as a princess. She's avoiding social gatherings to climb trees and watch starships! You remember Leia's well established fondness for starships, right? She's not interested in all that stupid princess stuff. Princesses are dumb, right girls? Then they had her manipulatively hug her foster mom so she could steal back her droid, and they try to pass that off as cute instead of budding sociopathy. Whoa, got on a bit of a rant there. Yeah, the little girl playing Leia is great, but I'm really disappointed in how she's written. At the time I didn't think her insights into the thoughts of others was latent Force sensitivity, but now that you mention it I can see that's probably what they're going for. Not sure why Obi-Wan wouldn't pick up on it, though.

[@Off-Brand_Devin]

@@donalddavis7423 Ha! Good point.

[@Lobsterwithinternet]

I gotta disagree about Leia. It's perfectly in line with how they portrayed her. Especially how we know how Aunt Beru said Luke ‘acted like his father’, it would be more of a surprise if she somehow didn't follow the same path. We've seen from the beginning of Episode 4 how Leia puts on the fake British voice when she is dealing with Vader and Tarkin. It's only when Tarkin threatens to blow up Alderaan does she drops the fake accent and talks much like Luke does. Not to mention how she handles that blaster and gets them out of the detention level after being rescued. It's completely in character to be this tomboy who longed for adventure like Luke did but was stifled by the aristocratic life of an Aldaranian noble, especially one as powerful as house Organa.

[@Off-Brand_Devin]

@@jaybee9269 Which is why I stole it from Family Guy. Credit where credit is due.

[@TheBigExclusive]

Why does every male main character from the original trilogy have to be miserable old men in Disney's new movies? Han Solo, Luke Skywalker, Boba Fett, and now Obi-Wan Kenobi.

[@PaxIesus]

I was watching the show with two other actors. We spent the entire time mocking Reva (and the ludicrous Leia chase scenes). She's not even a good Sith. They're powered by emotion, sure, but she's just a constant ball of unnuanced, impotent rage. Uncharacteristically leaving people alive who fail her and somehow killing the Grand Inquisitor - who actually was played like Sith from most of the Star Wars games. It's very clear that she - like she has said in interviews - has never been a fan of Star Wars; she doesn't know what she's supposed to be.

[@jesterssketchbook]

hey - watching BAD acting can be inspiring too! lol i hope you all watched it like "bruh: *I* could have done that better"

[@PaxIesus]

@@jesterssketchbook Damn skippy we did! Pondered some Star Wars fan films we could do, too....

[@NPCMii]

So far the show is good? Ahhhhh what? Did you notice the little part about Leia meeting Obi as a 10 year old then forgetting him by the time she’s 19. Disney Star Wars at its finest.

[@TheBerchie]

At the end of Revenge of the Sith, Yoda said that he would teach Obi-Wan how to talk to Qui-Gon Jinn's force ghost. So it would've been cool if Qui-Gon had a large role in this series. For example, Obi-Wan would be depressed and destroyed due to the events of Revenge of the Sith, and Qui-Gon would be there giving counsel. Qui-Gon would be the last spark of hope for Obi-Wan. You could also have some fun banter between the two when Obi-Wan gets himself into difficult situations. In addition, it would be cool to see how the relationship between these two characters changed from the Phantom Menace to now. Lastly, if it's too expensive to have an actor and do all the effects to make him look like a force ghost, they could just have a voice over like at the end of a New Hope.

[@ShepCantDance]

See, I didn't see Kenobi's apparent lack of compassion for his fellow Jedi and the fact that he hasn't been using the Force as an indication of a lack of hope per se, but rather that his dedication to protecting Luke is so complete that it supercedes the Jedu code for him. He will sacrifice and suppress anything so that he can avoid discovery (not "hunt himself") and protect the boy. When the other Jedi found him and he denied his identity and sent him away, I took that nor so much as a "I no longer believe the Jedi" as "I can't be discovered, and the presence of this hunted Jedi puts me at risk of discovery, so I'll kick the puppy until he runs away."

[@reub1565]

There are two good things about this series so far: when Ewan McGregor is on screen and the final five seconds of the second episode.

[@kbarbee3212]

Planet “Blade Runner”, it’s hilarious as it is apt.😁

[@thebiggestboi_art906]

I think even though he may not be able to use the force well, he can still teach it. It's the same with older martial arts masters. Also he most likely just told that dude that the Jedi are over because he didn't trust him or because he'd rather have him safe than trying to revolt in some way.

[@JustAboutTime]

If they can just keep their focus on the main character and not get distracted by all the stunning and brave females they might do better. But they don’t .. there was no reason to include Leia .. she wasn’t important, or needed in this story, at all. Obi .. and Anankin .. that’s ALL they needed. But no .. they screwed up, IT HAPPENED AGAIN?!?

[@LuisSanchez-by7mh]

Is Star Wars Cyberpunk? Seems that Star Wars wants to be Cyberpunk. Not the game.

[@swimmingmide]

I thought Leia was too inconsistant. At one point she is all about avoiding her roles as a princess and hanging out in trees, then she gets kidnapped and becomes super suspicious of people making Obiwan's job of getting her home nearly impossible. Then after he saves her she is 100% on board with the literal conartist she meets in a dark alley. She goes from free spirit, to hyper victim, to seeing everyone as a kidnapper, to trusting people 100% and lecturing her actual savior about trust issues she had been displaying seconds before. Do not get me started on the Grand Inquisitor letting 3rd sister openly work against him multiple times while not taking the least precausions against her stabbing him in the back/front.

[@williampearson6299]

Anakin did the same thing, didn't he? Always questioned his superiors? Even slashed Mace Windu and threw Palpatine down a void?

[@swimmingmide]

@@williampearson6299 Yeah, but he didn't do all those things over the course of like 30 minutes in film and in real time for the character. Helping kill Windu and tossing the emporer in the hole had almost 30 years between the two events, Little Leia had rapid personality changes over the course of a few days/hours(the time line is not super clear at this point).

[@williampearson6299]

@@swimmingmide Rewatch those movies. Anakin was inappropriate with the woman he was assigned to protect, he was entitled, angry, and often spoke out of turn.

[@swimmingmide]

@@williampearson6299 Yeah, but he did that over a span of years not a few days and a few hours. At the end of the Prequils he had been manipulated for years and showed rapid behavior changes but it was all set up by the Emperor over a decade. Leia in the show goes from one world view to a different one rapidly with no build up. In the second episode she tells Kenobi to trust a known con artist she met for 30 seconds after spending half the show distrusting the guy who saved her from kidnappers and who could and did prove her father sent to get her.

[@NerdettesNewsStand]

I've heard good things so far, good video

[@brucemoretotell3032]

Where was ashoka , wasn't she assisting the senator .

[@Yarblocosifilitico]

Obi Wan wants to teach Luke the Force and comune with Qui-Gon's Force ghost... while he has forgotten how to use the Force. Yeah, he's definitely broken from the Jedi's defeat, lmao

[@omis6610]

Sending a Jedi to rescue Leia would raise more red flags with the Empire than just sending an army. He’s practically announcing he is a traitor to the empire.

[@Aging_Casually_Late_Gamer]

The whole point of Obi-Wan being a hermit on tatooine was because almost nobody knew he existed or where he lived. Him interacting with characters just makes everything worse.

[@AzayBae]

Maybe the idea Yoda and Obi-wan had in this show’s canon was that Luke would be trained to kill Sidious and whatever new apprentice he has? I think Obi-wan telling the Jedi to give up is because he has consistently never told anyone about Luke in the new canon, save for a dying Maul in his arms.

[@SamvedIyer]

I have been intending to point out something else besides specific problems with these new movies and series: a trend of the actress portraying the 'strong female character' always manages to somehow besmirch the fandom with the adjectives, 'sexist', 'racist', and suchlike. It also appears that they are wholly unaware of history. This twin dynamic of arrogance and ignorance of history seems now to be common. The actress who plays Reva once said that it was 2022 now and it was time for Star Wars to have more diversity. That argument is specious; Star Wars has been diverse since _A New Hope,_ which is 1977, which is forty-five years ago. Not only is the in-universe galaxy diverse in terms of species, there has also been a fairly diverse cast (how about Lando, Mace Windu, Bail Organa? Not diverse enough?), and there have been strong female characters like Leia, Ahsoka, and Padme (yes, Padme, too; she was a greater obstacle to Palpatine's scheming than the entirety of the Jedi Order), and many more in EU. How do they so easily pretend that history does not exist?

[@graylykan2739]

Pretending to be a Jedi at the height of the Empire is about as suicidal as pretending to be a Jew during the height of Nazi Germany.

[@E_Clip]

Obi-Wan and Yoda look at the security recordings right after Order 66 and they both find out that Anakin is Vader. “Twisted by the Dark Side, young Skywalker has become. The boy you trained, gone, he is, consumed by Darth Vader.” -Yoda to Obi-Wan in Revenge of the Sith

[@Hamentsios10]

Padme: Obi wan, I know there's still good in him. Literally after Obi Wan left Anakin on Mustafar. Implying they KNEW he was alive. How much more proof do we need to realize that the writers do not know the lore?

[@lifeisnotaproblem]

To be fair, Padmé never saw the outcome of the duel, she doesn't know Anakin was lying in a ditch burning. But I agree.

[@williamschwartz8381]

Walked into this show with 0 expectations and I was still disapointed.

[@benjaminthibieroz4155]

So...Bail Organa send Obi-wan to rescue Leïa on his own...because he's afraid one would figure out the link between him and Leïa otherwise... Did any of the screenwriter paused 5 seconds to realize how stupid it was?

[@scribblessat3469]

Yo mama also I love your content, now to watch the video

[@SergioHernandez-le8wp]

The only thing I disagree with is that Vader is going to be the "main villain". He won't be. Reva IS the main villain with some kind of redemption moment where she switches sides at the last minute so she can be inserted into the Mandalorian or Ahsoka shows later. I swear to GOD I'm pretty sure SHE'S gonna end up kicking Vader's ass, so that she and Obi-Wan can escape a ship or something

[@SuperEasy1337]

Also, no, Reva's actress is not doing well, in my opinion. TOP CRINGE was when the door opened to show Flea and the crew trapped in that spiced up room. "Where is she?!" - Reva sound SOOOooooOOOO fucking BAD. Her line delivery just doesn't have the punch. It's like a really sweet person being told that they must act really rough/rugged/mean when you, as the person asking, know that they're incapable of it. (I would like to think the casting director new this...) I had 0 problems with all of the other actors and actresses, even little Leia, though she was getting on my nerves, but Moses (great name, btw) just ain't got what it takes. (So far, anyway.)

[@gregorygreenwood-nimmo4954]

We do know two thing abut Reva. She really - and I mean really - enjoys wholly unnecessary parkour, and she is perhaps the single most angry person in this era of Star Wars. Not until Kylo Ren will we see comparable on screen tantrums again. Neither of those things actually make a character compelling or remotely interesting, but they seem to be Disney's focus for some reason.

[@MastaKeahi]

I didn’t think Disney could mess up a story about obi wan protecting Luke on Tatooine but yet here we are.

[@glennross85]

Im sorry ,but the fake Jedi makes perfect sense, during prohibition people saw the opportunity to fill a hole in the market. This society has relied on Jedi for generations and then that is gone overnight, of course criminals will step in to capitalise.

[@jesterssketchbook]

"im done with being a jedi: the jedi and the force is OVER" "the boy needs training!" am....did i..... did i get a concussion to my brain, or does that not make sense?

[@pterodactylman136]

I laughed so hard at all of Revas lines. She was good at park our and she felt real about killing Owen (even tho that wasn't possible) but other than that I got major "the room" vibes from her acting

[@Yarblocosifilitico]

oh, the parkour... where was she going? Obi Wan got time to see Leia fall, go down to the alley, go meet the fake Jedi, leave... and Reva was still parkouring around. lmao

[@zachrohler1047]

@@Yarblocosifilitico that's why she sucks. It would have taken 3 force jumps to be on that rooftop lmao

[@TheAetheris]

I think it kinda makes sense that Obi Wan didn't hear about Vader. He has been literally living under a rock for the past ten years, and while watching his daily routine we didn't really see him interacting with anyone other than the jawa and Owen. We didn't see him go to a bar, or speak with his coworkers to get the news, and his holo-communicator was put away in a box and it didn't look like he used it often.

[@originaldarkwater]

Leia was generally well handled, but the chase scenes were a huge problem. You covered how bad the first one was, but second one where Obi-Wan is chasing her over the rooftops, there's also no way she could have stayed ahead of him for that long, either. In order to simultaneously stop her and keep her from getting hurt, as well as to convince her of his good intentions, he should have Force-lifted her as soon as they were up on the roof, out of sight of anyone. When you're yelling at the TV for Obi-Wan to do something so obvious, something in the writing has gone awry. And neither of the chases would have lead to a different outcome if they'd just been cut, so they were literally wasting our time just to show us something that was going to strain credulity, anyway.

[@Darkwintre]

Why didn't they employ an actual fan of the franchise to write this series? Seriously have it start with Leia visiting that holiday star cruiser costing Disney money and she's snatched off the ship with only one of her bodyguards succeeding in pursuing them as they use a small freighter to flee off the cruiser. Damaged in the pursuit they end up landing on Tatooine to repair his ship and encounters Ben Kenobi who helps the injured guard as unaware by him Obi-Wan is conversing with the force spirit of Qui-Gon who has persuaded him to help the guard. Trained to hide his force potential he remains hidden as a sortie of Inquisitors head to Tatooine to scour for force sensitives. Qui-Gon however lets them sense him so when Ben and the guard fly offworld to Nar Shadaar they detect him and end up diverting from their mission to pursue what they sense is a Jedi Master. They reach Nar Shadaar and whilst the guard contacts Bail, Obi-Wan encounters that clone trooper who he gives some of his few credits to unaware the clone trooper has recognised him and having not had his chip activated starts following them. Use this opportunity to introduce Cassian Andor (he has a series coming so why not advertise that like they did Ahsoka ), they start bickering on how to rescue Leia as Ben slips out. He manages to con the Inquisitors into attacking the Crimson Dawn kidnappers so he can slip inside, free Leia and escort her back to safety. No use of force powers just make it look like simple guile and she assumes he's a hireling of her father's. Returns to the others only the clone trooper isn't surprised However Ben is introduced to Bail who clearly recognises him much to Leia's shock as Ben openly prompts Bail to keep quiet about his presence and since he can't stay he recommends the clone trooper to act as Leia's body guard as they have experience handling impetuous kids. Leia would be initially mad, Bail and the others a little offput, but this should take up most of the first season and set up the 2nd season with Maul coming out of hiding as it becomes clear someone he knows has resurfaced. If course Maul surfacing would bring in Vader as why not have them fight each other during the second season as Ben Kenobi investigates to find out who is targetting Leia before heading home... Sorry can't help wondering how a series called Star Wars and a floundering star cruiser hotel business of Disney didn't involve each other and kidnapping Leia in space!

[@AVRGWIBWTHACN]

Ngl I could listen to you tell a story all day

[@originaldarkwater]

I'm all but certain the reason they made Obi-Wan SO hopeless and depressed and all but cutting himself off from the Force is so that it's parallel to Luke in The Last Jedi and they can use it to defend that trash fire. Also, with Vader, it would have made more sense if Obi-Wan had known about him, but hadn't realized it was actually Anakin in a suit. Reva shouldn't have known, either.

[@pulpheroaudio8709]

Nice to see a fair and balanced review rather than extremes in one direction or the other.

[@TheodoreManthovani]

I think Jimmy Smits really had an asian blood in him, which shows the older he is if you find him to be that way. To me as an asian, he doesn't look asian.

[@lifeisnotaproblem]

He's half Puerto-Rican.

[@Kal_g]

Is this the Obi-Wan series we're looking for? Well...nah.

[@edua172]

I think that she saw anakin leading the clones attacking the temple and how the clones refers to him as lord Vader. How she saw this and survived that another question

[@wolfinsheepsclothing842]

Ewan McGregor is the one thing that keeps my hooked. He is the perfect Obi Wan and every scene he's in is great. Everything else is a mixed bags. The chase scenes were a joke, and Reva is so far one of the worst characters I have scene in a Star Wars show. She is so bland and unlikeable, and not in a villainous way. More so just because she's annoying and way too over the top. Really hoping they flesh out her character more, but even if they don't, McGregor will keep me coming back.

[@ReidDesigns]

Ofc the noise on Twitter has started (by LF Disney itself) that Moses Ingram IS in fact a diversity hire and any criticism of her portrayal of Darth Tantrum is racist. But that being said I think that my expectations were so low that it exceeded them. Ewan’s back must be hurting carrying this whole show by himself. But The actor who plays Owen is also pretty good, wish they spent more time with him but you know they will be constantly going back to Leia. It was mentioned in the book ”From a Certain Point of View A New Hope” that Yoda wanted to train Leia and not Luke cause the “girl is stronger” ofc, so that’s where they are going with this. The force ofc is female. I’m curious to see what happens next, but we can guess.

[@Enigma-wn6et]

Maybe Reva is obsessed to have revenge on Obi because being one of the heroes of the clone wars he didn’t go out of his way to save younglings?

[@johnmetzakis2910]

IIRC Bale Organa at this time also had access to Ashoka working as Fulcrim to go an retrieve Leah, but i guess this series is not from Faloni's camp of writers, now i think on it having Ashoka meet Obiwan would have been a great addition and pull on those Cone wars member berries

[@onildobsantos]

The fact is: everything in this show leads us to REEEEEYYYYY!

[@lifeisnotaproblem]

How many lightsabers must be buried on Tatooine, we'll never know ...

[@tkeen1412]

I'm mostly liking it so far. The kidnapping chase was stupid. It looked like they were just trying to scare her but keep their distance. The reva parkour stunts looked like it actually took longer than it would just running and force jumping.

[@jesterssketchbook]

it made so little sense : was she even trying to catch-up to him? she ran and jumped for like 20 scenes, and arrived after they had a little talk and walked off ....what is even happening right now? lol

[@blackosprey2219]

I'm starting to think tv SW has a consistent problem with depicting chase scenes. Every one they do fails to give any sense of speed or urgency and looks goofy as hell.

[@mogwiawolf4354]

and i wish they had gone off of legends with after several months since the fall of the republic and the rise of the empire obi wan in the cantina seeing a hologram or like tv talking about jedi must be reported and palpatine saying his second in command darth vader will be hunting them down then have obi making that face and leaving the cantina not the way they did in obi wan really wish they used more legends material of him going to save anakins padawan rival that left the jedi order long ago would have been way more interesting in my opinion

[@frankb3347]

There's just so many things that don't add up. If it were just a couple of things I might look past it but when you start thinking it through there's far too many things that don't make any sense.

[@G11354]

Ive more or less given up on Star Wars. I find myself watching the original trilogy frequently and just ignoring anything disney spews up.

[@kathleenhensley5951]

Didn't Darth Vader say "When we last met I was the student and you were the teacher, now I am the master." That would imply that they had not met since that last battle.

[@forsaken841]

I loved seeing the Sith politics. So much of it is true to what I’ve seen for years in video games. Casual viewers might think Moses Ingrams character is out of line or too ambitious. But she’s doing exactly what sith do.

[@nickmitsialis]

Yes but are the Inquisitors actually 'sith' or are they merely low level 'henchmen'? Or does the lore say an inquisitor can be promoted to an apprentice and so on up?

[@thebaron2277]

@@nickmitsialis they are dark jedi. If anything they are sith wannabes. The only one who comes close to a sith is The Grand Inquisitor and even he got his ass kicked by Vader in the comics. I think it is hinted that whoever holds the rank of grand inquisitor will become Palpatine's apprentice if vader somehow died. Until he finds a new one, one far younger and more powerful

[@nickmitsialis]

@@thebaron2277 Thanks for the info; It's a new bit of info that they are 'fallen/dark' Jedi.