Star Wars Outlaws Optimization, The Best Settings to Change on PC!

[@Hardwareunboxed]

Hotfix version 1.1.1 does not appear to have improved texture pop in on the 12GB cards such as the RTX 4070 Super, based on some quick analysis. It also doesn't resolve the aliasing with Lens and Cinematic Effects on Medium

[@saricubra2867]

Let's be real, they are using .raw files as textures with NASA-like resolution for these games.

[@Superdazzu2]

@@saricubra2867 no, because if that was the case textures would actually look good on the game. Instead they are ps3 max ps4 levels

[@SpartanArmy117]

@@Superdazzu2 Yeah exactly. I get why people felt that 12 GB wasn't enough and that's a discussion that can be had, but this isn't a scenario where it should matter. The is just incompetence on Ubisofts part.

[@maurice482390]

@@SpartanArmy117they have always had memory leaks in their titles watch dogs 2 was using to much memory even on my 1080 hybrid

[@Koozwad]

really surprised you didn't seem to use Afterburner's VRAM allocation and usage monitoring - it works per process(as in the game exclusively)

[@meliotablet]

I love how optimisation guides are back!

[@mjc0961]

I love how the little HUB logo with eyes is back

[@d4mterro320]

They were always here, just not enough game launches.

[@WyattOShea]

too bad this one is for a shit game though.

[@Dark.Syndicate]

@@WyattOShea true. outlaws seems to be a garbage game

[@benfoster93]

They never went away?

[@AlesNajmann]

"Graphic settings" is the mini game inside any new game 🤖

[@colemin2]

It's the best game.

[@nobrakes7892]

tbf always has been

[@maurice482390]

Since 2008 Spore for me

[@jpangmar]

Unless you are rich 😉

[@Osprey850]

I'd say that it's been a mini game since 1996. Before then, we were lucky to be given a couple of resolution options and a couple of detail settings. With the introduction of Quake, though, we were suddenly given dozens of resolutions to choose from and dozens of other settings to tweak in the menu, in-game console and config files. I spent so much time in all three, tweaking settings to improve my framerate and the quality of the graphics. It was a fun challenge/puzzle. That's the game that really popularized user customization and optimization (and, specifically, the in-game console and plain-text config files).

[@Polotoed]

I don't care for this game at all, but it's awesome that the optimization guides are back! Looking forward to them in future games

[@tiromandal6399]

Yet you clicked on this video and made this comment. Either you're lying or you have 0 life.

[@hishamaru]

@@tiromandal6399 am on the same boat, i dont care about game at all, i just want to see why 12gb isnt enough

[@tiromandal6399]

@@hishamaru Where are y'all coming from? Clearly from some particular community cuz all of you are commenting the exact same stuff. It just can't be that all of you are bots.

[@hishamaru]

@@tiromandal6399 we are coming from the worst place you could imagine - internet

[@puffyips]

@@tiromandal6399you seem like the only one with no life

[@musiclistener9215]

I’ve sat for an hour or two in different games doing my own tweaking like this, and it’s a hard and lengthy process for even a “quick” pass of the settings, so I figure this video will save me a bunch of time, but the best thing about it to me is the learning! Tysm These optimization guides help teach us what different settings DO, which I’ve never been fully clear on, and watching a few of these guides we can get a sense for what are likely to be the important settings in any game, or what visual compromises to be aware of when testing settings. Between experimenting and watching you guys for data, I feel like I actually know what I’m doing. And that’s in all you guys do- education, information, comparison, context, etc. I’ve only gotten back into medium-high end gaming in the last year, but your channel has been invaluable during both the build and playing process. I’m yapping but if you see this I just want to say thanks. People like you help us enjoy hobbies to their fullest

[@SAFFY7411]

Thanks Tim.

[@AKK5I]

Back to you Steve

[@aaz1992]

Thanks Steve

[@JeffWaynee]

I always appreciate all the hard work that must go into making these settings videos. Thanks

[@F3rum]

I really dislike how you can see the border were high quality grass, shadows and other stuff load in. 12:21 look at the road, once I see that happening in games I can't unsee it.

[@desertfish74]

yes this annoys me as well, I'd rather have no detailed foliage at all rather than such an obvious pop in border

[@kazioo2]

Avoiding this "border" - extending and smoothing that area- requires doubling the draw calls, doubling the objects and increasing overdraw with dithering. It's a difficult compromise. UE5 has a total workaround for this problem with virtualized micropolygon geometry, but it has its own set of issues because of course, nothing is ever free...

[@desertfish74]

@@kazioo2 I understand the predicament but surely there is some way to smooth out that border by blending stuff or whatever. Just saying if there's a sudden border it's jarring and like OP, I then cannot unsee it and am annoyed by it all the time everywhere

[@F3rum]

​@@kazioo2 I get that it takes resources and I would be happy to compromise other quality settings to get rid of that "pop-in border" or at least smooth it out. Because once I see that happening in a game it really takes away quite some joy and peace of mind whilst playing. I don't know why exactly but it _really_ annoys me. Edit: Or take Far Cry 6 where you _could_ snipe from really far but the draw distance is just too low.

[@selohcin]

The Extra Streaming Distance setting is designed to solve that problem, or at least mitigate it.

[@nossy232323]

Best settings Star Wars Outlaws -> turn off the game

[@christopherpine94]

Solid comment flog! Don’t play it 🤡

[@Techcensorshipbot]

*uninstall

[@zbigniew2628]

​@Garrus-w2h Internet attacks EA / Ubi and other BS corporate games...., not sci-fi itself. My last Ubi game was R.U.S.E. and last EA game was Crysis 2 and I ignore whatever they make, unless it is going to be masterpiece. No point in giving them money. You will be better with looking for games yourself, rather than going for another marketed, generic, shallow AAA stuff.

[@mryellow6918]

​@Garrus-w2h The ai is too incompetent to be a 7 out of 10.

[@mryellow6918]

​@Garrus-w2hthe praise you have is it looks fun I'll play it when it's cheap. So is that not more of a 5 out of 10 then. 5 doesn't mean bad it means average

[@GENKI_INU]

Well, officially RIP all 6GB cards both desktop and especially mobile/laptop. Even desktop 3070/3070TI owners are going to be hurting for how much those costed.

[@bal7ha2ar]

heck, even the 3080 10gb owners are probably mad rn.

[@AntiGrieferGames]

This game is even trash and unoptimized, so not rip 6gb vram cards.

[@Piev_]

I'm gonna make do with my 6GB RX 5700XT till it's 90

[@Kapono5150]

That VRAM boogie man just keeps showing back up

[@Angel7black]

Games keep dropping completely broken and poorly optimized for the first few months so yeah.

[@Phil_529]

@@Angel7black That is not a way to describe this game. It's well optimized if you paid attention to the video.

[@Dempig]

@@Angel7black poor optimization is classic nvidia copium

[@andersjjensen]

@@Phil_529 You can't reason with people who cannot get into their heads that high resolution textures A) Is THE most important aspect of visuals that doesn't come with a sizable performance impact, and B) VRAM requirement is the square of texture resolution. A 128x128px@24bpp texture = ~49kB A 256x256px@24bpp texture = ~211kB A 512x512px@24bpp texture = ~786kB A 1024x1024px@24bpp texture = ~3.15MB

[@Phil_529]

@@andersjjensen Sure having high VRAM is nice but we are in the realm of diminishing returns at this point. Better lighting makes an ok texture look incredible but the performance cost is very high.

[@radosawskorupa3217]

10:30 - "I didn't notice it too much behind MY speeder" sounds like a Star Wars equivalent of "it runs fine on MY PC".

[@worthywizard]

Imagine sponsoring a game to have your cutting edge features to then be held back by the amount of vram you intentionally put in

[@The_Noticer.]

so you will buy another gpu of theirs. But yes, both FG and RT take up a whole lot of vram.

[@tringuyen7519]

@@The_Noticer.Not just another GPU. A new GPU with 16G for more of VRAM => $600 or more. Right?

[@SpartanArmy117]

It's not, its held back by terrible devs.

[@Jacketz123]

@@SpartanArmy117honestly wouldn’t blame the devs in this situation. They did a great job of VRAM management with lower resolution textures. Nvidia should be releasing the majority of their cards with ~50% more VRAM. 12GB should be the new low end, and 16GB should be the new mid range.

[@The_Noticer.]

@@tringuyen7519 Or a 499 AMD card...

[@antraxbeta23]

Meanwhile Nvidia bringing the rtx5060 with 8GB vram for 400$ next year, saying it's enough for 1080p gaming.

[@notmandolorian]

at least its a good sign and force these lazy devs to optimize their games since this apparently will be the most seller GPU. give them 16gb minimum gpu and see how the 24gb will be the minimum next year

[@antraxbeta23]

@@notmandolorian the 4060 is a popular gpu, do you see devs give a crap about its 8gb vram, don't fool yourself, game companies and gpu makers are hand in hand, to make you buy the best in the latest games.

[@notmandolorian]

@@antraxbeta23yeeah thats why we see lay offs more than ever

[@Davinmk]

@@notmandolorian devs had to optimize theit games for 8gb for a decade now, they are not lazy, but just rightfully annoyed having to try to fit a decades worth of game design improvement into the same amout of vram. Imagine we would be stuck on 4 core cpus with a couple mb of cache

[@pawel7196]

I have had my 5700xt for 5 years now. There's no way I'd buy another 8gb GPU for the same price all those years later! That's the total opposite of progress. I can always just go out instead I guess, can live without games

[@hectorvivis3651]

It's saddening seeing most of the comments seemingly freighted here by hate trains. Thank you for your optimizing guide. I'll definitely use it if I pull the trigger on it.

[@JustSomeGuy009]

Saddening that people hate bad games? What are you even talking about

[@josejuanandrade4439]

Oh noes, people doesn't like a bad videogame?! The horror!

[@SKHYJINX]

Texture streaming values can be tweaked in the config file for a much less pop in nature to the game. Worth using if you have spare VRAM. Make sure to re-evaluate for stuttering and such..

[@Shepard313]

We already have VRAM leak on 4K with RTX 4090 which cause us to relaunch the game every hour or so, not sure it's a good idea 😅

[@SKHYJINX]

​@@Shepard313 Most 4090 users also max settings too, so probably not a good combination to do the tweak when your using extreme settings with high VRAM usage, however for NON Maxed settings its benefitial for less pop in. You gotta pick your battles, optimized settings + less popin is a win. Works very well on my RTX 4080, but Im not maxing every setting to cause issues.

[@Veritas.0]

I _ALMOST_ didn't thumbs up this vid because there's no 70s rock thumbnail of Tim with BeeGee's hair like there was for Steve.

[@rhoharane]

Balin, pls remedy this situation.

[@Doug-mu2ev]

This was the best optimization that I have seen, keep up the great work!

[@worstenbroodje6832]

They lost me at no manual texture settings and I truly hope this is not going to be a new trend. Just let me decide how I want to run the game. Even if I want to play at 12 FPS that is my choice.

[@Phil_529]

Gotta protect people from themselves. It's not a bad idea, really. Get at least a 16GB card if you want true ultra, this has been well known for years now.

[@jasonprendergast7493]

@@Phil_529how about when you have a 4080 super and this game still runs TERRIBLE. How about that.

[@maynardburger]

Memory management is a lot more than just performance. It affects the actual stability of the game. Texture settings like this also do more than just adjust resolution of textures, but importantly texture streaming, which is crucial when dealing with modern high detail games with heavy, complex shaders and whatnot that are demanding to load in. All in all, this is shit is way more involved than most gamers understand. And it's especially an issue now that devs are taking advantage of the SSD's in consoles to help with this kind of thing, while the same functionality doesn't work as well on PC(at least yet).

[@MadX8]

"For years" haha... Outlaws might be the only game I can't play properly with my 4070, and it's not even the best looking game. Don't wanna blame the devs too much as I really like Massive Entertainment, but hell no, there's no excuse for this. Same problem with The last of Us PC port, which required over 12GB of Vram for no reason. It's just bad management. But there's always the guy with an RTX 4090 to tell you that everything is ok and that we're stupid for buying "low end" cards

[@jasonprendergast7493]

@@MadX8 well, no I have a 4080 super and this game is completely broken. Whole textures don’t load, whole textures load in with no detail it often goes well over 16gb VRAM the ray tracings broken it is completely broken

[@GoldSabre]

This was incredibly useful, thank you for your thorough testing!

[@sascha1461]

they're really not doing themself a favor by not releasing to Steam on Launch with their games.

[@Kyush4]

oh, they are

[@BlackJesus8463]

@@Kyush4 Are they though?

[@Knowbody42]

They aren't doing themselves a favour by not releasing it on Steam, but they are doing you a favour by allowing you to save money not buying it.

[@xandr4870]

Genuine question. Are games still taxed 30% on steam? Last time I checked, epic only applied a 12%. My thought has always been to buy the game where the developer gets the most possible of the cake, and I have a strong distaste for monopolies and lack of competition. This is again a genuine question. I love steam as well and have , and I am wondering if I am misinterpreting anything here.

[@Knowbody42]

@@xandr4870 In principle you're right, but in this case there are good reasons people don't like Epic specifically.

[@SageMadHatter]

Thank you for this detailed setting by setting breakdown, you’ve get a sub & like from me!

[@barbusbogdan7]

I want to pay my respects to all those early access testers that bought the game. Thank you so much for helping ironing out the performance and bugs so i can play it flawlessly in 5 years for 10 bucks. You are the best!!!

[@iamspencerx]

This is how I feel for every game

[@ClarkCan]

Preorder Now... to get the worst version of the game at the highest price.

[@MlnscBoo]

I wouldn't play this shat if ubisoft tried to pay me to

[@futuza]

Yes thanks everyone, I'm still working through 4 year old games so I won't have time to get to this until y'all have reported all the bugs and issues.

[@iamspencerx]

@@futuza Also you save money on hardware, game that required a high-end pc 4 years ago run on a cheap pc today

[@Skott62]

Love the work you put into this guide. Very helpful. Thanks!

[@TheDumbTake-xb6rr]

Black Myth Wukong maxed out, used 8.7GB of Vram for 1440. So, its possible to do it properly without hogging all the memory.

[@reappermen]

Why would you though? Also, how much vram you need minimum depends a lot on art design and stile. More clutter and different things on screen at once? More vram, no way around that. Besides at this point, anyone who buys a card with less than 12 GB vram is willingly getting scammed, that would be like buying a car with a 2 litre fuel tank.

[@Phil_529]

UE5 is literally the best engine at VRAM management. Also Wukong isn't really varied in their designs or have lots of NPC on screen at once. It's like "here's a forest back drop and 2 NPCs!", very different from trying to render a city with dozens of NPCs and various objects around.

[@marcelosoares7148]

That game uses another engine, though.

[@maynardburger]

Entirely different type of game, entirely different engine.

[@demnogonis346]

Maybe because Wukong doesn't have any great textures? The lights and shadows give depth to the scene and make it look graphically appealing. But the textures it has, in themselves, are nothing special. That's why it consumes 8gb of vram.

[@ApexLodestar]

Thanks to your HUB performance settings, I can actually play Star Wars Outlaws on my RX 6800 XT at 1440p locked 60fps with FSR3 Native AA and Frame Gen. Please make optimization videos a regular thing! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

[@fan4eg_official]

oh, I thought this was a new video from *BenchmarKing*, but it turned out to be *Hardware Unboxed* and I was pleasantly surprised to see this category from you! cool

[@firejayhawk]

I'm new to the channel and have never seen your optimization guides before but this was amazing. I like that you had long explanations for why you chose the settings you chose and a visual representation of them, but then also had a summary at the end showing what settings to change. great video and i hope to see more of the optimization guides in the future!

[@Lamentta]

What about older 16GB cards, like the RX 6800? Are there any scenarios where the gaming experience is better, compared to current 12GB cards such as the 7700XT, or even RTX 4070 (super)?

[@kravenfoxbodies2479]

Even Intel has a 16GB card.

[@demnogonis346]

Of course, because this game loads higher quality textures as your available vram increases. As long as the textures don't exceed your vram, they have no impact on performance. So on a less powerful card but with 16gb or more of vram, you will have to lower some settings, but the texture quality will be higher.

Ahahahah.... I remember those times when people were shouting at me because I would not recommend the 4070 Super and found outrageous to sell a 650$ GPU with less than 16Gb of VRAM. It was good old times. Oh wait, it was in March, 6 months ago !!...

[@spacechannelfiver]

That looks like a good settings menu, lots of options; explanations of what they do and preview images.

[@Nikownzyu]

Thank you! On my 3060 it went from unplayable to a locked 30 and even better quality then how i had it configured!

[@mrbeckham666]

At first I thought it was some kind of optimization outside the law 😂

[@jforce321]

ray reconstruction is heavy, but that inner surface detail and reflection stability improvement is massive.

[@CaptnKrksNippls]

Gotta love the sea of NPCs in the comment section of any ubisoft game coverage trying act high and mighty about not buying the game. Simultaneously saying they don't care about the game at all but also consuming coverage of said game on youtube, reddit, ect. so they can scream to heavens about how much they "don't care".

[@richardhunter9779]

Have you considered that maybe all those people used to be Ubisoft fans, and feel betrayed by the direction the games have taken.

[@123Suffering456]

Well, it's entertaining, isn't it? I think many people are just here for the drama, same thing with Concord and Dustborn.

[@lexiconprime7211]

​@richardhunter9779 Then why are they lingering around like a jaded, homeless cop begging for his pension? Move on, it's a sad look.

[@magicsmoke6000]

Thank you for the work you put into these optimized settings. It seems to me that there are nvidia settings that are bugged and eat VRAM. What I've found to work for me with 4070TI is turning of nvidia features like RR, RTXDI, frame gen and also running DLSS with native AA. Locked frame rate to 60 in game. With optimized quality settings frame is mostly stable with occasional drops below 60 to 57-58.

[@JinglesOnJuniper]

I'll buy this game when it's on steam and $40 or less. So I'll be back to watch this video in 8 months to a year.

[@kerotomas1]

Or you can buy any 4070 and up Nvidia card to get the game for free and immediately sell the card without unboxing it for basically the same price.

[@italoinacio4901]

That game is not even worth 20$

[@pem3480]

or get ubi+ pay little and try it out. did that with skull and bones and glad I did as the game was sht after 100hrs

[@georgejones5019]

Try $20 or less.

[@Knowbody42]

@@italoinacio4901 I wouldn't even pirate this game.

[@deviousnate7238]

Still loving the Optimization videos, even though this isn't a game I'm probably going to play.

[@Veritas.0]

Modern computer graphics crack me up sometimes. Fog is used to limit draw distance, but over _here_ it's a high-end addition to the look of the game. Lower definition on the image is low-end, but blurry frame generation is high tech. I mean, it's like all those options the game designers used to think were great like motion blur, film grain, and lens flaring that most users immediately turned off on first boot. Meh, at least it _will_ let us run at native resolution even if it does make even a 4090 puff and chug along.

[@whatwelearned]

This applies to design in so many things. "Hey, this is heavy so it must be quality" *manufacturer laughs in lead

[@kazioo2]

You are confusing old performance hack that pretended to be fog with actual volumetric fog that does WONDERS to atmosphere and graphical fidelity. These are completely different things with different purpose, but merely naming them both "fog" is a semantical excuse to make an argument that isn't real. Camera motion blur was a huge mistake based on an incorrect assumption that the industry is recently backing off from and moving back to object motion blur (which is important especially for effects like sparkles or sword swings), so "the nature is healing" I guess.

[@maynardburger]

It's not 'blurry frame generation', it's reconstruction, and it's an improvement on TAA. Without temporal antialiasing solutions like these, these high detail games with complex shaders/PBR would be a MESS of aliasing and crawling pixels. The image would look insanely, insanely unstable and awful. Y'all just have no idea what is going on, as usual.

[@Veritas.0]

@@kazioo2 Actually I'm not. You didn't watch the scenes where it affected the background (non-volumetric) fog in the same scene. I know the difference. There was plenty of old style draw distance limiting fog being changed by the same setting that changed the up-close steam vents. Maybe be more observant.

[@Veritas.0]

@@maynardburger And yet, for a less than stellar technical game if you turn it all off it chugs even with the ultimate GPU and CPU available. I don't need term clarification, you need critical thought.

[@brucethen]

Thanks for putting all the effort into these guides

[@SouvikAhmed]

Why does the game look so blurry and washed out? Is it forced TAA?

[@ricepony33]

Look up Gaming Tech HDR videos, truly transformed it for me.

[@SaiakuNaSenshu]

Dust/volumetric being taa prob also yt compression is shit even on max resolution

[@Dante_780]

Main character is blurry. Other things are not

[@ranjitmandal1612]

😶

[@draxrdax7321]

The game is actual trash, it's insane seeing so many people trying to explain to other people that have eyes how their eyes deceive them.

[@Cappuccinoitself]

You should have tried Ray Reconstruction with RTXdi. On the higher settings of rtxdi it actually gives you an fps boost if RR is turned on and that's what it's really meant to be used for.

[@Pickswitch]

This completely changed how this game performs on my 3070ti. Completely. THANK YOU.

[@TheRealDlo]

I LOVE that your doing this guide!

[@HuggieWuggies]

steam hardware survey 4 GB = 8.10% 6 GB = 13.86% 8 GB = 35.44% 12 GB = 18.39% 16 GB = 2.88% 24 GB = 2.21% most people have 8GB or less, game devs need to make they game be 100% playable and enjoyable on hardware that most people are using, a ultra setting that abuses vram is no problem but when the game has a hard time loading textures setting on any option, clearly there has been a lack of care on dev side for most of the gamers on pc at the moment

[@notmandolorian]

yeah, 4% wont save those games in sales sides. just stick around to what most popular hardware and stop doing none sense graphics BS features none asked for. cyberpunk 2077, rdr2, alan wake 2. visuals and techs are enough and running like bread and butter on 8gb gpus.

[@ooringe378]

who cares, game won't be available on steam for at least a year. game is also a huge open world game that targets current gen consoles, not last gen and pc requirements will always be higher in proportion to consoles. no one is forcing you to play a $100+ game, just like no one is forcing you to reward nvidia and amd for milking you with their low VRAM products, it's their lost or gain once upon a time VRAM buffer would double every 2-4 years before Nvidia started to condition you with jacking up prices and penny pinching you with their planned obsolescence, being stingy with VRAM on their RTX 2000 cards. just putting things into perspective, if the trend would had continued normally the RTX 2000 should have been 16gb cards along with the 3000 series and the 4000 series 32GB cards as standard everyone rewarded nvidia for their antics to the point they can do whatever they want, now gaming is not even nvidia's main bread and butter thus they can no longer give a crap game also works on 8 or 12gb card but just won't look as good as a card with the full fat 16-24gb, nvidia wins again, better skip lunch and save those pennys for the $2000 32gb RTX 5090 because gaming is the most important thing in the world nvm WWIII being right around the corner

[@hodgoes2001]

Used the quality setting on my personal setup. Works great, also personally seeing less texture pop in since the latest patch. Rtx 3070ti 8gb card @1080p

[@chippyyyy]

its games like this that prove my point where getting a 4070 super but staying at 1080p is a smart choice since there's more headroom for visual fidelity and decent framerates without dlss

[@6ch6ris6]

yep. I also made the decision to stay at 1080p. higher framerates and more compatibility with my 1080p tv.

[@starstreamgamer3704]

Why not use DLDSR? I am always using DLDSR 1,78x. This means games are rendered at 1440p and then downscaled to 1080p. This way any modern game looks much better (crispier, more detailed, with better texture quality). For older games you can use higher quality settings - DLDSR 2,25x (1620p->1080p) or even DSR 4x (2160p->1080p). If you want to retain similar to native 1080p performance, just use DLDSR 1,78x in conjunction with DLSS Quality. This way most games provide similar framerates to native 1080p (even with enabled DLAA), but still look significantly better.

[@iurigrang]

Why would you do that if using dlss quality at 1440p looks significantly better and performs essentially the same? Performance at 4k also isn't much heavier, and is worlds apart better looking

[@6ch6ris6]

@@iurigrang I have no interest in these upscaling techniques. i want a native image

[@emulation2369]

​@@6ch6ris6my friend, upscaled image looks better than native, I hope you do know about that

[@weaponx40]

it would be great if you guys did a general optimization guide video. For example, a video that talks in general about common settings what they affect and if they tend to be performance heavy or now. something like that that would help people as a kind of guide they can use for any game would be cool.

[@coreyisabigpushover]

To be honest, this game doesn't really look like it should require as much GPU power as it does. But it is nice that Low still looks good.

[@andersjjensen]

It's an Nvidia Screwed Title by Ubisoft....

[@Davinmk]

it looks better when you play it, this is a yt video with low bitrate

[@andersjjensen]

@@Davinmk YT, even at the highest bitrates, always "smudges" things. It was made for compressing camera footage, not computer graphics.

[@gargean1671]

Note: Ray Reconstruction performance loss happens if it's enabled while RTXDI is DISABLED. If RTXDI is on - RR benefits performance slightly.

[@northernassassin6056]

I can't believe we're at the point where you should probably pass on a 12GB GPU.

[@reappermen]

Depends. For a below 250€ card? 12 GB is fine,. Anything 250 and above? Yeah, 12GB or less is an outright scam, don't buy that.

[@mikeramos91]

I can believe it, it’s Ubisoft 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@yurie2388]

If you want to play at 1080p and low/medium 8GB still works fine. There is a title here or there that experience texture pop but overall it works fine.

[@maynardburger]

Why do PC gamers seem to not understand that you can play games just fine without the absolutely best graphics possible? It's even weirder having to explain this in an optimization guide video. 12GB is still fine, but in some games, it wont let you achieve max visuals. That's fine. 12GB is not some huge amount. We had 8GB GPU's all the way back in fucking 2014. If anything, VRAM quantities have seen tragic little improvement. Blame this on Nvidia, not the developers.

[@mtlcub]

Thanks so much for this optimisation guide! So useful This game is fun and looking stunning! Now, we can make it even more smooth with this guide! Love how this game is using all the modern technologies! People want next gen game, but they still think they can have on older gpu... Modern tech have a cost! But the good news, with this guide, you can push your hardware to the limit and get the best result for this awesome game! And please, for all the Ubi haters... You don't like Ubi, fine.. Move on and let us enjoy an awesome game!

[@singular9]

Its crazy how so many times looking at LOW I see no difference between Low and Ultra....

[@devonjohnson7501]

Thanks, Tim! I appreciate your efforts here and I'll be sure to come back for a reference to your charts at the end whenever I get this game.

[@Druze_Tito]

Such an advance in graphics in games...yet none of the surrounding characters pays attention to the running stranger. Everyone just minds their business. Try this out in the real world, start running around people and see their reaction.

[@firstnamelastname366]

Ubisoft used to give the npcs reactions when you did crazy stuff arround them. Back in like, 2007...

[@Druze_Tito]

@@firstnamelastname366 IDK, I think it adds to the overall immersion of the virtual reality. As is, it's just dead graphical perfection, almost. The rest is just plain and lame.

[@Phil_529]

Well walking would be lame. Gotta remember video games are supposed to be fun first.

[@yurie2388]

@@Phil_529 I think a few games experimenting with increased game engine speed instead of running could be interesting. You still walk but the game as a whole speeds up so you don't take long to get around.

[@bassyey]

This ain't RDR2. You can't expect an environment full of life from subpar games.

[@zetaalpha9974]

Video optimization guides was how I originally found and started watching hardware unboxed. Honestly I would like them on more games because they've helped me greatly in the past.

[@sitordan]

Does anyone see the point of hiding graphical settings in a game?

[@elmousse007]

On PC ? Zero chances

[@clifflenoir4323]

Yes. Most players go right away to the highest preset if they have a good GPU. When they then find the performance to be terrible they say the game is badly optimised. These bonus settings help when people want a performance boost in the future with next gen GPUs. By then people will have heard of the launch option to unlock them and the Devs can patch the new preset in later if they want

[@HenryTownsmyth]

RTX 3090 will still work for next 1-2 years but no 12GB GPU will be functional for anything higher than 1080p. I have been having too many issues with my 3080 ti 12GB at 1440p with new games and even some older games that require more VRAM.

[@saricubra2867]

3080Ti always has been a 21:9 ultra wide 1080p GPU and 1440p. Anything beyond is too much. Also, i noticed the 3080Ti Asus TUF being significantly faster than other versions.

[@yosharian]

I'm sure both of the people playing Outlaws are excited about this

[@Lex_Wolf_555]

i see what you did here

[@GA-br8wj]

You mean they/them?

[@Dark.Syndicate]

@@GA-br8wj haha I understood that reference

[@Akkbar21]

I see what’s going on here. The right wing hate channel are whipping you all up into a hate mob eh?

[@tiromandal6399]

Woho congrats for so many likes buddy, I'm sure your parents are proud of your achievement.

[@fabiosathler4658]

This settings saved my gameplay. Thank you.

[@shoff29]

I do find it interesting that for years now people have complained that games have been made for last gen. And we’re being held back technically. And now when games come out that are heavier on hardware people complain that they are heavier on hardware lol. Like… this is what happens when they build games for beefier machines. This is what you asked for. They have to start pushing the boundary at some point.

[@cal2127]

if we are pushing the boundaries why do these look like ps4 launch games

[@shoff29]

@@cal2127 you realize most ps4 games didn’t even run at 1080p. At 30fps was the norm. If you seriously think this game. And black myth look like ps4 games… I think you are either using rose tinted glasses or you need actual glasses because there is a massive difference.

[@baronsengir187]

@@cal2127 You need glasses

[@MlnscBoo]

Can you tell me why Fallout London looks 10x better and runs 10x better than starfield? There are many games that look better and run better than this piece of junk game. Hell Assassins Creek Origins looks better than this brand new non optimized game from the SAME studio. I can tell your one of the people who will happily not own your games

[@rahulpandey9472]

This game looks worse then some games that were released in 2015.

[@ray_6677]

Thank you for a great video! I putted on this settings for the rx 7800 xt and having a real benefit with more Ray tracing and details for same fps as i adjusted it first. No real fps loss in many of the settings as your video showing.

[@leander7872]

I experienced a vram memory leak on a 4090 24gb card. Noticed low quality textures and saw vram had filled up

[@Hirnlego999]

Is the leakage with RT active? That seemed to happen with Dying Light 2

[@saricubra2867]

@@Hirnlego999 Dying Light 2's rendering distance is what wrecks graphics cards and CPUs.

[@Hirnlego999]

@@saricubra2867 I dunno, enabling RT with a 7900xt is the only setting that really kills the performance

[@JakeKitchener]

Awesome work! Thank you! Can't wait to try out your settings.

[@adamadamx5464]

Because 12GB cards are for FHD playing, bought for my brother 4070 and paired it with FHD monitor, for QHD/4K you need 16GB.

[@saricubra2867]

The true sweetspot is ultrawide 21:9 1080p.

[@isitPC]

In all honesty the best setting is the Uninstall option!

[@jiubboatman9352]

Why do that? Why shit an a people that are not you, fun? You don't like it, that's fine, awesome, go enjoy the things you do. And consider all the crappy things you do other people could shit on. Like this crass comment.

[@GENKI_INU]

@@jiubboatman9352 Speaking of crass comments...

[@isitPC]

@@jiubboatman9352 80 people seem to disagree with you. The game is a broken mess, badly written and designed and full of DEI nonsense. You seem to have taken this far too seriously - pretty sure being disrespectful isn't a nice thing to do now eh?

[@isitPC]

@@jiubboatman9352 Ohhh I see, you're coming from a specific cummunity of people who have decided to make a stand and call out those who would disagree with your world view. Or... just a bunch of kids with nothing better to do than be disruptive for the lolz. (probably from Resetera). Anyway, sorry @HardwareUnboxed - I didn't realise the unhinged would be quite so out in force today!

[@jiubboatman9352]

@@isitPC when your best argument is a personal insult what does that say about your argument. You don't know me, why not attack my position? That is all I did. Your comment is banal contributes nothing and is condescending to those with different opinions to you. And the irony, here you are whining at me about me crapping on your fun. Delicious.

[@JonoLB]

These guides are simply amazing. Thorough, great starting point, and a huge time-saver. Thank you!

[@ZykopathOfficial]

Who's optimization guides do you guys prefer?

[@maynardburger]

Both HUB and DF do great work with these. Invaluable assets both of them.

[@tkplaygames]

The particles effect is a tricky one, when you see them from afar the performance shows no negative impact, but when you're inside a town, a room or alley on a hub and the particles are up close than there is around 20% hit between Particles on High vs Particle Medium. However when on the speeder it behaves like my first example of having no difference, which is weird since the dust is pretty upclose and yet has no performance hit like beforehand mentioned particle effects when on foot on hubs.

[@kingmd9]

Another very generic title from Ubisoft, big pass for me. Happy for the ones that actually play and like it.

[@kazioo2]

From what I'm seeing there is actually a lot of great potential for something that could be incredible if different design goals were pursued.

[@evankirschenmann4653]

Please keep making more optimization guides~!

[@dancingdroid]

Simple: Uninstall, refund and go sit in the corner of shame for having bought this.

[@GA-br8wj]

Truth!!!

[@novinovic298]

100% + also big tech channels like them should stop giving attention to bad AAA games but I guess something must sell expensive GPUs... If biggest channels on youtube stop creating content about shit big publishers are putting out world would be a better place. Why not do a optimization guide for good indie game or game made by smaller independent studio/publisher that is good but has some performance issues instead?

[@ranjitmandal1612]

😶

[@maynardburger]

@@novinovic298 This isn't a bad game, though. Y'all losers are just trying to manufacture some controversy about this game being a disaster when it's just not.

[@dlsniper]

Thank you for all the time and efforts put into this guide!

[@mentalplayground]

+30% FPS for all 11 players.

[@leviathan5207]

No way! That many?

[@rejectxz]

Youre being funny but its open world Star Wars. It makes the big bucks no matter the quality of the game.

[@sorinbanu3360]

🤣🤣🤣

[@tiromandal6399]

Being broke isn't anything to brag about. People these days keep getting weirder and weirder.

[@metocin6038]

​@@tiromandal6399 bet you're unemployed and still live with your parents

[@static6684]

Thanks guys for saving the AAA games for our current gen gpus ❤

[@Bargate]

If 12GB VRAM isn't enough then I guess only the top 10% of PC gamers are having fun with this game

[@fightnight14]

Its a nitpick

[@NewishJordan]

@@fightnight14 It really is and I'm surprised HWU isn't more upset about it using VRAM like this and locking away settings. Not very bright to make your game have very obvious pop-in on any card with 12gb or lower which is like 85% of people imo. This is being pushed by quite a few loud people that want their 16gb GPU purchase to not be another 11GB in 2017 situation. There's tons of people that try to spread FUD about hardware to affirm themselves, the reality is 12gb will be fine for the rest of the console generation.

[@maynardburger]

The game runs with 12GB, there are just compromises. Y'all are acting like the game straight up requires >12GB to run at all, which is absurd. As the video goes over, you can even play the game with 8GB still. Blame Nvidia for gimping memory on their new GPU's for many years now.

[@GBMatthew07]

Thanks for all your hard work guys, it's much appreciated.

[@LilaHikes]

RIP Star Wars universe. Been run into the ground long ago. Both movies and games.

[@CaptnKrksNippls]

Fallen order and survivor literally exist

[@saricubra2867]

​​@@CaptnKrksNipplsJedi Survivor's launch was a dumpster fire. Extremely crappy perfomance on an i9-13900K and RTX4090. No impressive graphics.

[@VectorAero]

Pleasantly surprised with the performance of this game after being traumatized by the stutterfest in Jedi Survivor. Using HUB Optimized quality settings at 4K with DLSS performance on my 3080 and it's a smooth 65-95 experience. GPU utilization is a consistent 99% so it's well optimized.

[@ThunderingRoar]

Whats with the hate bandwagon for this game?

[@RickyBobby576]

Its because the game is actual dog 💩 and its being sold at a premium. You're better off playing any other Star Wars game ever made. The EA Battlefront games are even better.

[@TerraWare]

It's caught up in the culture war.

[@darudesandstorm7002]

people hate anything that doesnt get 120+ fps at 1080p ultra on their mx440

[@Sleepy.Time.]

you must be new around here...everyone loathes Ubisoft and modern Star Wars

[@firstnamelastname366]

>It's a ubisoft game >It's a star wars game

[@bijm007]

Love these videos! Thanks for the hard work

[@ivofixzone6410]

No mate - RIP Ubisoft and Bethesda. Those scammers don't deserve our hard earned cash.

[@jiubboatman9352]

I do appreciate the qualifier that some options may have an effect later in the game.

[@ImTheSlyDevil]

You've put more effort into this optimization guide than the devs put into their trash game.

[@Phil_529]

Nonsense. The vitriol of the internet is getting out of hand.

[@RenormalizedAdvait]

The way game-engines like The Unreal Engine 5, Frostbite, and CryEngine etc., are becoming resource hogs soon the minimum go to graphics memory for a decent 4K gaming would be 24 GB within 5 years.

[@saricubra2867]

Frostbite and CryEngine aren't resource hogs. I never experienced a single stutter with those, Unreal Engine is just bloatware and a dumpster fire.

[@ooringe378]

Yes, thank you Nvidia for being stingy on VRAM, once upon a time VRAM buffer doubled every 2-4 years, 8GB VRAM till death. How did we get from the 32MB on the Geforce 256 to silly 24GB monsters todays. I mean when 3D graphics went mainstream the Playstation One only had 1MB of VRAM, 1MB is all we need for 3D graphics. Now games can't even run on Dual Core Celerons, heck they require more than 1GB system RAM and run's like crap on 5200RPM HDD, disgusting, because as they say in Soviet Russia, progress is unoptimization. May your profit margins reign supreme lord Jensen, thank you for breaking the trend on doubling the standard VRAM buffer every other generation with your planned obsolescence, otherwise we would have had 16GB RTX 2070s and 3070s, yuck and 32GB 4070s eww.

[@RenormalizedAdvait]

@@ooringe378 Ikr...

[@ooringe378]

@@RenormalizedAdvait In other words todays game engines aren't really resource hogs relative to bygone game engines in relationship to the hardware tech of their days, just today they are aggressively castrating hardware tech because a certain GPU manufacturer is giving you so little for your money, warping your perception that game engines are resource hogs. In 5 years 24GB should be low end if they have the decency to finally up the standard to 16GB for next gen. We will wait and see.

[@RenormalizedAdvait]

@@ooringe378 Nvidia shot on its foot by pushing the raytracing thing too early, this made tensor cores mandatory for DLSS. Now if they increase the VRAMs then their consumer graphics cards would cannibalize their overtly pricey professional cards, up to some extent it is already being done by the RTX 4090.

[@WhiteBoyGamer]

texture popin with 12gb. another reason not to buy this game. as if i needed any more. still, popins are one of the most immersion breaking things and ruin games. i remember how id softwares rage drove me mad

[@silvio3d]

Pop in ang vram are not connecter

[@kazioo2]

Nanite kinda solves it in UE5, but there are other side effects in performance that devs have to be wary of and trees are currently especially problematic. Ironic how Nanite was actually inspired by Rage and its Megatextures.

[@BlackJesus8463]

Hogwarts had texture pops and everyone loved it, then it got good after some updates anyway.

[@WhiteBoyGamer]

@@BlackJesus8463 everyone is not me. i cant speak on hogwarts. i saw a few nice animations but i was already too old when potter became a thing. not interested in it

[@WhiteBoyGamer]

@@kazioo2 rage looked fantastic at times and is overall an underapreciated game. and i know some of the tech was really good, but the implimentation was not good enough. it was propably bareable with controller and slow turning speed but with mouse and 180s in milliseconds all the time it was unbareable popin

[@stylar_cz]

I have an RTX 4090 with 24GB VRAM, and even that’s not enough memory for the game. After 2-3 hours of playing, performance drops by 50%, and bus utilization increases. The game also uses a lot of RAM, up to 30GB (with OS), but like I said, this only happens after a few hours of playing.

[@gingerbread6967]

Cyberpunk, Shadow of the Tomb Raider, etc. Demanding games that I never liked. I laugh at such benchmarks and scoff games not worth playing that simple look good.

[@silentverdict]

The biggest differences I saw in the reflections were in the imperial levels and anything involving stormtroopers, that's what sold me on turning it on.

[@TheGeorkef]

1:02 Ray Tracing which cannot be disabled? That has Nvidia dirty influence written all over it ...

[@SpartanArmy117]

Maybe, but at the same time thats the future. Devs won't want to keep spending time and money creating a rasterization option when it's easier, better looking, and more time efficient to use ray tracing.

[@colemin2]

@@TheGeorkef Amd sponsored title Avatar doesn't allow rt to be turned off.

[@Phil_529]

No. It's to speed up development time and make the visuals look better. Raytracing is the future whether you like it or not.

[@TheGeorkef]

@@Phil_529 Sure, and Nvidia is just cheering this RT push quietly from a background ...

[@Dempig]

​@@SpartanArmy117 Problem is "light" ray tracing like in this game and most games with rt often looks much worse than no ray tracing

[@LiLBitsDK]

excellent video and very nice improvements on the quality settings vs. just using ultra... that is a huge change

[@shivanshuaggarwal6991]

I will never even bother with this game. just came here to inc. view count and drop a like so they don't stop making these videos.

[@LJSheffRBLX]

Hardware Unboxed, Great video!

[@WasNotWas999]

Best settings will be to never buy the garbage, game..

[@Safetytrousers]

Utter bollocks. Myself and every stream of it I've seen are really enjoying it.

[@josejuanandrade4439]

@@Safetytrousers I mean, if you near blind to not notice the hideous main character facial deformation, the poor graphics, and if you are dumb enough to not realize how terrible the game mechanics, the AI, and the whole plot of the game are, and if you dont mind shooting at bullet sponges for hours... Yeah the game is a blast!

[@Safetytrousers]

@@josejuanandrade4439 The main character is a good likeness of the person who plays her. And she doesn't look in the slightest bit deformed to me. The graphics scale from low to the highest ever in a video game which no current GPU can run well. The game runs on an extremely wide range of hardware to its big credit. The plot is good and exciting, putting together a team to take on a big heist. The enemies are far from bullet sponges, and a variation in difficulty is desirable. I've heard several streamers purring over the quality of the graphics.

[@josejuanandrade4439]

@@Safetytrousers Bro trying desperatedy to justify the money wasted "no realy... is a good game" despite all evidence.. also "she doesn't look in the slightest bit deformed to me" again, if you are near blind... because she nearly looks like one of those Stroganof brothers...

[@Safetytrousers]

@@josejuanandrade4439 I'm really enjoying the game, I haven't wasted any money. I paid £14.99 for UBI+ to play it. The evidence I have is actually playing the game.

[@alpha007org]

When I was young, I loved fiddling with settings and doing benchmarks. Voodoo3 and UT99, and sharing on forums. Good times. Nowadays, however, I would rather die than waste all day doing this kind of thing. I'm grateful for this video, because I'll need it in around 5 years, when 1K EUR GPU will be able to run this on 3440:1440. :)

[@hrvojemilicevic3309]

Peak PS2 visuals in this game

[@amirv413]

Plz keep making these kinda videos

[@bauer9101]

Needs a ‘change face’ setting.

[@stormlord121]

Thank you so much for all the hard work Tim! Really appreciate the amount of detail you get into for these guides. I really hope more people find your guide 💪🏻

[@pietroborgesparri]

Hello, Tim. I'm talking directly to you. I commented this at one of Vex's videos and I thought it might be interesting to you too. First of all, I want to say that I don't want to play the victim, and nothing that I will say here will be changeable by you. I just want you express my frustration. I am 23 years old and I live in Brazil, I was born here, and I've always had a pretty comfortable life. My dad used to make a lot of money and I always had an united family. It all fell apart in the last few years tho but that's another story. I am watching your videos and I just think it's funny the things you say, because you see everything with your perspective (as you obviously should, not saying that is a bad thing) So, the intent of this comment is just to make you get another perspective of things, maybe even trigger some ideas for a video, who knows Basically, my country is fucked. The money here is called real (it is not pronounced as you just read ofc), the plural is called reais. Once upon a time (I believe not even 30 years ago), the conversion was 1:1 for american dollars, which means that 1 real was equal to 1 dollar. The conversion right now (08/27/2024) is 5,51:1, which means that 1 american dollar is worth 5,51 reais. Let's say it is 5,5 to make it easy. The minimum wage here is about 8 reais/hr (about U$1,45/hr), and the average national salary is about R$13,54/hr (U$2,46/hr). That's the average, and we are a country with over 200 million people. I think you get where I'm going with this. Not only that, but we have a TON of taxes, like a FUCKING TON. Usually, for launches (let's pretend that RTX 5060 comes out tomorrow), we multiply the MSRP by ten. 10 (ten). So, if the MSRP is like 399 idk, we could comfortably say that it will cost AT LEAST 3200 BRL (reais), but it will probably come closer to R$4000. I do know that these comparions are not valid for a number of reasons, but let's just PRETEND for the sake of the point that I'm trying to make. The american minimum wage is about what, 8 dollars/hr? And ours is 8 reais/hr, so let's just say (AGAIN, PRETENDING) that 1 dollar = 1 real. Now, I can put you in my reality. Imagine that your market right now is like this: RTX 4060 costing U$2000, R7 7800X3D costing U$3000, RX 6600 costing U$1400, you know what I mean. What about the used market? Well, let's just say that people are buying RX 470 from China for like R$350 because it's the only viable option for this price range. A fucking RX 470. Sometimes it is even the 1700sp version, the 470D. And you can be 100% SURE that those cards were used til death in crypto mining. I think it's funny when you guys say things like "oh this card is 320 usd, so expensive, not worth it, this is 250 usd, so much better" because we are here paying our entire salaries for a gtx 1650 Again, this is not your fault and there's nothing you can do about it, I just wanted to expose my frustration. I just wanted you to know that, if I could pay half my salary for a RTX 4060, I would be the HAPPIEST PERSON ON THE PLANET. And about those China cards? Well, our government this year put a 92% fee for imported products. 92%. So, if you want something that costs 100 usd, you will pay 192 usd for it. 100 for the product, 92 for the government. Buying used stuff (specially used in crypto mining) from China was once a good option for brazilian people, but not anymore. For the third time, I don't want to play the victim, I have australian citizenship and I'm trying to apply for my passport right now, and as soon as I could get my hands on it, oh boy, I will be running away from this country faster than how I run away from my problems. If you think that the things I've said here are absurd and that you could not live in a place like this, this is just for hardware. For stuff like iPhones, they are not 10 times more expensive. They are 15 times. The version of the iPhone 15 pro max that launched costing 1000 usd was costing 3000 usd here. USD by the way, not converting to reais yet. If anyone want to join this discussion or ask for more information, I'd be happy to answer. It's always nice to share our frustrations with other people. And to shock first world country citizens.

[@wildnugget1675]

yap yap yap i ain't readin all that but congratulations/sorry that happened

[@FreightTrain22]

I feel sorry for you but the vast majority of HUB’s audience is dealing with US dollars

[@thesilentassassin1167]

Bruh

[@cal2127]

bro you gotta stop voting for socialists.

[@SKHYJINX]

HUB cant control economics of countries, stop being triggered at someone for something out of their control, they cant please everyone and their main audience uses USD/AUD currencies.