Starpoint Gemini Warlords - Now With More Strategy

[@livslab]

just a quick info: starpoint gemini 2 is currently free on steam! i think 'til the 26, but not sure.

[@StarpointGemini]

It's free until May 24 10AM PST

[@michalsimanek6988]

Samuel Hofstetter and they say, if you get it in this period, it is yours for free for ever

[@omegasrevenge]

i just checked, its not free at all.

[@Pjs-ge7gk]

was for me...

[@Dardlem]

Still free for me. "This game is free until May 24th at 10AM Pacific Time!"

[@timothymclean]

"I accidentally upgraded my beams...which I don't have..." I can only imagine how hard the mechanics laughed when they pulled off that scam. "Yup, your beam weapons are all upgraded! Every single one! No refunds."

[@ZombiePotatoSalad]

For a nominal fee, we can install a new set of Helsinki smash-rods!

[@Zanzubaa]

Reminds me of Freelancer, I did enjoy that game. Flying around, exploring gas clouds and debris fields, finding wrecked ships and loot. I hope this game has those things (no I do not give a crap that it is not realistic).

[@a-blivvy-yus]

As a relatively experienced SG2 player who doesn't have Warlords yet, I can confirm all those things WERE great fun in the previous game in the series. I'm pretty sure they're still here for Warlords, too.

[@StarpointGemini]

Thank you Scott! :)

[@hmjgrawy1]

Starpoint Gemini I liked your Gemini war 2 and I would love to try warlords it looks so good I really want it and a giveaway would be awesome thanks :)

[@jamesm5787]

They named a spaceship Icarus. What did they expect to happen, I mean that's like how to jinx your spacecraft 101. Of course it exploded!

[@StarpointGemini]

We honestly didn't know it would explode! :D

[@cloud9847]

Scott, bud, spend some time and learn the camera controls. You can auto lock targets and select "next" target and such. Makes it MUCH easier and increases the enjoyment of battles. Love the vids bud! Keep them up.

[@tommywaitsy]

But a target lock is lame for other reasons... it reeks of easy mode console games that you can play with your eyes shut. Kid's stuff. Boring. I just wish there was a game with the combat of Elite, and the personality/charm/soul of freelancer. Surely such a thing could be made without the hundreds of millions of dollars apparently required for Star Citizen.

[@6gausus6]

Cloud 9 i played a loot and i dident notice this, love you xd

[@mclmrtn]

You've got to use alternate camera modes to fight the way you want. Makes it much easier.

[@danmoore4503]

It seems like a lot of people in the comments are getting a bad first impression based on Scott's difficulty controlling the ship but I just want to point out that it's a hell of a lot easier than he is making it look once you read the key map. For starters you toggle auto fire with F, you can mark target for your auto fire and your fleet with / on the numpad, if you don't want to use auto fire you can lock your camera on your target with k so it is easier to track as you fly. Also numpad 5 is grapple, it uses a tractor beam on your target making it much easier to hit as well as launch a boarding party. Aside from that there is power distribution, shifting power to weapons keeps your battery from going empty as you are firing at the cost of shield regeneration and so on. Lastly the class abilities and equipment slots he wasn't using are very powerful and can be used on any type of ship. In all I would say the game's controls are very easy to get used to. Advice for starters though, invest in heavier ships for your escort fleet like destroyers, cruisers and battleships. Gunships, corvettes, and frigates die so quickly they are a waste of precious salvage!

[@Slovflyer]

Thanks for the insight. 1 question though, regarding your last statement about escort ship size. I read a few reviews and discussions on the Steam page that mention that the world AI scales with your own level, meaning if you level up to a big ship/tech, the enemy magically also gets better ships, in an approach to keep things challenging. While I'm no fan of magical AI upgraded enemies, I may not notice it if it's done right, e.g. I open up new skills at higher levels that help me out despite the AI being at the same 'tech level'? Scaling is kind of annoying and usually a let down in many games I've played, for example I'll hit a wall due to difficult, and think that grinding and leveling up first might help..only to realize when I return, everything scaled up with me so I'm back to square 1...almost. Was there any time in the game it felt cheesey like this or was it not as bad as some reviews say it is?

[@threesixtydegreeorbits2047]

A man they called Jane!

[@lasvista2tech]

space age is fabulous!

[@TheIcemanModdeler]

I played the crap out of Freelancer growing up and it's by far the best space game I ever played and this a true successor to it. They took almost everything from Freelancer including the controls and added more stuff to it like commanding a fleet, base building , teleporting crew, tractor beams, control large ships with hangars , diverting energy to shield , weapons or engines, ramming ability, shotgun, cloaking and other things. I'm seriously considering replacing Freelancer with this game, good job to the team that made this amazing game.

[@Zanzubaa]

Is 'Jayne' a Firefly reference? I like.

[@R.Instro]

The "Hero of Canton," The man they call... Scott.

[@Flupp1]

shinee

[@anyportinastorm7195]

The real question is can you still board a ship kill the crew than tow it back to dock and sell

[@scottmanley]

I believe so.

[@StarpointGemini]

Yes you can.

[@ShamblerDK]

The music is quite enjoyable.

[@DmytroBogdan]

Buying high and selling low joke will never get old :)

[@TrotTheBot]

Warlords definitely look like a big improvement, have seen strategic elements, the amount of carnage you can do O_o shiat, awesome stuff

[@EnterpriseKnight]

This game feels like a 3D Starfleet Command.

[@StarpointGemini]

Since we love Starfleet Command, this is nice to hear. :)

[@d2factotum]

Are you sure the problem with your X52 wasn't one of the slider controls? I know I would occasionally have problems with games that would interpret the throttle control on my ancient Saitek Cyborg as a camera control, so the camera would constantly spin around the player character until I set the throttle to 50%.

[@DarkShiftMusic]

7:50 oh my god it's Anubis from Stargate!!!!!! KILL IT WITH HEAVENLY FIREEEEEE

[@DarkShiftMusic]

tek matte.

[@kmethmusic9194]

gonna try this game later tonight!!

[@AnimeSummit]

I know you're a busy dude, but I think I'd like it if you actually did a series for this game.

[@StarpointGemini]

We'd like it too, but we know how busy Scott is so we're thankful he took some time to cover the game. But there are already series on KZbin, TheRevPlays is doing a complete walkthrough.

[@yaktyafiyae]

8:39 that's why real life mila tart vehicles can either manouver there way around enemies or they have separates turrets controlled by other people

[@yaktyafiyae]

military not mili tart

[@a-blivvy-yus]

And that's why this game uses the "F" key... FIRE AT WILL!

[@thomaspayne4090]

How do You compare this to the X3 series ?

[@VincentHarrydragonphire]

how do you remove your face cam from your stream for your videos or was this streamed without face cam?

[@613aristocrat]

I would point out that you can hear your own guns firing, but you won't hear enemy ships firing on you unless you're hit.

[@koffieslikkersenior]

Are you the Jane with the rainstick?

[@kenzou84]

Why do I feel annoyed at the ship GUI placement, can we turn off the GUI, move it or adjust it's transparency/size?

[@StarpointGemini]

You can toggle it on or off.

[@danilooliveira6580]

the camera seems painful to control... or Scott is really bad at this game

[@scottmanley]

It's more that I'm used to other games with control schemes that keep interfering with my mental map.

[@LandoCalrissiano]

The camera is painful if you're not used to it. That's the reason I stopped playing SPG2

[@scottmanley]

If you have trouble you can focus on managing a fleet of NPC's to do the shooting for you - that helps a great deal.

[@Lprsti999]

Part of the problem is he was in turret view, which is basically freelook, so he could only turn with the keyboard, and as he said his mental map wasn't quite meshing (V toggles turret view by default BTW). I will say the turret setup (at least up to destroyer) doesn't make much sense for spaceships, the turrets are almost all on top of the ship, so unless the enemy is forward and above you many of your guns can't shoot, and the chase camera placement is a little wonky for that setup.. (Fire at Will, toggled with F, lets the AI take over shooting so you can focus on piloting, which helps some, but not a ton). Also B is the default key for the Sublight drive.

[@Dethmeister]

Can you re-bind keys? like set up arrow to pitch down and down arrow to pitch up?

[@DPtheOG]

"Intel has finished its investigation of the Icarus attack" -- ironic considering that this game is now included in the Intel Performance Software Pack

[@73_65]

I will name my next ship in Space Engineers "The Wayward Kerbal"!

[@ohmygodsquad]

Is this comparable to space rangers hd?

[@kratomseeker5258]

does the game have some type of pvp?

[@clemguitarechal]

I just added the game to my library (free on steam for a little time) But i dont have the courage nor the curiosity to install it. It seems so clumsily done !! I may keep that for a very very very very bad and rainy day.

[@StarpointGemini]

This is a new game, Starpoint Gemini Warlords, not Starpoint Gemini 2 which was free.

[@clemguitarechal]

Thanks for the hint, and sorry for the harsh comment.

[@Drrolfski]

Looks like some kind of Freelancer game. I can remember that game handling better almost 15 years ago.

[@StarpointGemini]

We'll take that as a compliment, thank you. :)

[@Drrolfski]

It would definitely be a compliment (Freelancer was a great game) if the controls were as smooth as that game was. But judging from the video that is apparently not the case currently.

[@a-blivvy-yus]

Scott mentioned in another comment thread that he was doing poorly because he's used to other games and the control scheme is unfamiliar. As a veteran of SG2, I did need some time to get used to the controls, but it's a LOT smoother when you know what you're doing. Where Freelancer is primarily about flying single-seat fighter ships, the Starpoint Gemini games are basically Freelancer in a capital ship. Even when you're in a Gunship at the beginning of the game, you have a large enough crew on your ship to have spare soldiers for boarding actions. The nature of commanding larger vessels requires more options in how you control the perspective, so just cloning what Freelancer had wouldn't be enough.

[@jazeroth322]

freelancer galaxy design is superior and the story is fantastic! I wish they would remake it with new graphics

[@scottmanley]

Yeah, sadly Microsoft aren't interested in negotiating access to the game, so you can't even buy it unless it's a physical CD. Never mind mod the graphics and gameplay.

[@jazeroth322]

Scott Manley starport isn't a bad franchise, in fact probably the closest in ease of play to freelancer was. Such a shame. Thanks Scott fly safe good sir

[@panko2848]

so glad i own it on CD :D I adore that game it is what got me in to space sims

[@jazeroth322]

My copy is scratched to hell such a shame

[@willlasdf123]

Damn, well this is the closest we may get to Freelancer 2!

[@MilhafreTuga]

great game now for free. just wanna see this game on multiplayer

[@Eon2641]

Why is the orientation of your camera fixed to the orientation of your ship? God that's disorienting, is there an option to turn that off?

[@scottmanley]

+Tiger the Lion huh? Camera orientation is mode dependent, can be locked to ship or move freely.

[@Eon2641]

I worded that poorly, what I mean is when you pitch/turn the camera also pitches/turns, which means you have to fight against any course corrections you make to aim at stuff. If that's mode dependent and I just missed the bit where you could look around without the turning of your ship affecting where you were pointing your cursor then my bad, but if that's how it is all the time that seems really annoying to me.

[@a-blivvy-yus]

Scott was playing with the camera in "turret mode" which allows free rotation, BUT the camera is linked to the ship's orientation. There are several modes you can cycle through which behave differently, including a free camera you can rotate without being affected by what the ship is doing. There's also fixed camera that's locked to the ship's forward facing and lets you manually aim within that arc only - it's terrible if you're in a bigger ship, but some Gunships and Corvettes handle pretty well that way.

[@Eon2641]

Thank you for the info :)

[@getbrutal4388]

Why if you can travel the speed of light would you should people with lazer cannons from 50 ft away. It makes no sense, creators have to realize this stuff isn't realistic (I know it's sci-fi) but still some realism, we are ready for it with the new space races and all!

[@mintymichael8680]

series?

[@scottycheesecake]

The real question is: "is it better than X3?"

[@StarpointGemini]

It is different in many aspects.

[@confuded]

Yes! This is exactly what I wanted Scott to talk about! Compare it to X3 and Rebirth. This game is obviously a lot more arcadish, but it sounds like there are a lot of elements from the X series. Really want to hear Scott compare them.

[@StarpointGemini]

It's different. X series have, for example, much deeper economy than us, that's the fact. But we have more battles, and I'm talking 20 vs 20 capital ships, especially in later stages of the game when you already have a small empire. Fleet management is also a bit different here. Don't get me wrong, we all love X series (Rebirth is another story) and play those games, we're just saying it's different. :)

[@confuded]

Great to hear a developer be honest and not be afraid to compare their product with others! (and great to have a dev even answer youtube comments =P). Shows that they are confident in their product and gives credibility. I just bought the game on steam =D (Fallout 4 can wait ^_^). Rebirth is indeed another story for another galaxy (where FPS doesn't drop for no reason and getting to a merchant on a station doesn't take a day and an age).

[@Baleur]

So is this on android too?

[@StarpointGemini]

No, only PC (Steam and GoG) and will be released on Xbox One at a later time.

[@davecoz4227]

anybody know scott's twitch streamer name?

[@alaric_]

it's "Szyzyg". Problem is that i havent seen any info anywhere on when he streams so that info didn't do me any good :/

[@davecoz4227]

Many thanks

[@medvidekmisa]

why i saw in dialog in 17:30 bald guy named JANE...

[@Four4Reddit]

It's like GTA space edition!

[@user-cz9ss4yq4x]

best channel ever

[@valsorim5334]

Freelancer met Eve online :D

[@IRMentat]

Reminds me of star trek online.

[@IRMentat]

With a bit of eve and nexus: the Jupiter incident.

[@whitedenis85]

The game reminds me EVE online game

[@LandoCalrissiano]

I'm guessing you haven't played it much.

[@StarpointGemini]

Some people called our previous game EvE Offline. :)

[@dangraphic]

Dear god... please forgive him... he knoweth not what he doeth...

[@LazureusFalcone]

Game looks neat bot that camera control is damn near vomit inducing.

[@mick7727]

Yeah I can't play with that turrent view style... makes me sick. Much prefer to keep it locked in a 'third person' view from behind the ship. Also letting the AI do the shooting for me... works a treat.

[@mick7727]

*turret* lol

[@kurtbrunner7243]

I got it for free saw it by chance did not want to believe it but it was true ou and guys learn the auto turret yo lives will change just press middle mouse and press fire at will

[@kurtbrunner7243]

But star point Gemini 2 was only free for 2 days

[@TheRealEntLogic]

PRESS F... JUST PRESS F!

[@ekstrajohn]

Interesting. Wish it was deeper.

[@scottmanley]

I've barely scratched the surface.

[@ekstrajohn]

Well, at least you've scratched it in that awesome Manley way.

[@hobanagerik]

I see the mouse controls for aiming are still shit.

[@gavinjenkins899]

spaceship flying like a plane looks really annoying and non immersive :(

[@confuded]

Yea, I wish there was an option to do controls like in Elite Dangerous. I am so in love with that control system.

[@LateNightPoetry]

Damnit, why's it gotta be singleplayer??

[@cw8]

Singleplayer rocks

[@dreamybetty]

This game looks like it has the worst camera work I've ever seen in any game. Thanks for making this video, or I may just have bought the game unsighted now that it is out of early access and wasted it on a product I would uninstall after five minutes.

[@a-blivvy-yus]

I recommend looking for other videos - Scott's camera control (not the controls themselves) is pretty bad - he actually comments that it was his fault in another comment thread. It takes some getting used to, but there's several options for the camera which work better or worse for different ship types. The option Scott is using here is probably the most disorienting you can possibly make the game.

[@Talamd83]

The start is so X3 lol

[@StarpointGemini]

Not Homeworld? :D

[@ПавелКириллов-и2у]

Скачать Starpoint Gemini Warlords с таблеткой можно тут, кому надо - tgames.club/game/starpoint_gemini_warlords

[@yaosio]

That camera is horrible. It shouldn't be flipping all over the place. It's 2017 and developers still can't figure out game cameras.

[@YIIMM]

Jane is a girl's name.

[@RetroAmateur1989]

I didnt really like SG2. It was not the repetition, but rather the universe felt dull, its story and characters, all of them boring and uninteresting, and while the map looks like its full of stuff to explore and do, you soon realise they are nothing more than decorative fluff and the ships are not very inspired. When they announced warlords and how much more it took advantage of the previously useless map, I regreted buying SG2. Rebel galaxy is way better.

[@P3Tankman]

So I don't know how one would do controlling the ship while in turret view, but this is not it. It's basically the same system they had in Discovery Freelancer and that was pure trash.

[@StarpointGemini]

There are several views and camera modes available, everyone can find the one that suits him the most.

[@P3Tankman]

I appriciate that but if it's the same system as Gemini 2 (Played my copy after watching this video) theres still some lacking in the camera control department. Mainly: There needs to be a "lock to target" button. Constantly fighting the camera while fighting in a slow ship is a bit of a pain. A camera mode where it directly follows the targeting reticule would be great. The weird drag-away system is confusing. Looking too far up or down prevents you from going farther. That needs to be a seemless loop. If those are fixed in warlords (At least the snag when you look too far down/up) then that's great.

[@StarpointGemini]

Battles in Warlords are much bigger than in SPG2. We actually implemented Lock to Target in Xbox One version of SPG2 and people complained about it. Why? Because it's not a dogfighting game, and you will get attacked from all sides, by multiple ships, you will need to switch targets as they come and go out of range, it would be impossible to just focus on ships one by one until they're destroyed. Maybe we are wrong, but that would be a very hard way to play.

[@P3Tankman]

Ah ok. While I don't agree with the complaints I appriciate the explanation. Maybe I'm the weird one here. I should probably say that the camera issues are the only problems i've been having with SPG2. It's a good game and I'll probably be picking up Warlords when I have the cash.

[@Mandanara]

NOTIFICATION SLAV SQUAT

[@mitjellk2186]

The controls seem dreadful tbh, gonna pass on this one

[@6gausus6]

Mitjell K in fact, there are a loot of keys to control the camera easy. Is hard the first hour to be honest.

[@Jarrzon9758]

Go Cheat Engine....

[@CrisegamerBlogspotOficial]

Pessima gameplay, procurem outra se querem conhecer o game...

[@darthvocrum5719]

this is a star citizen for poor ppl i see

[@stefanklass6763]

First again?

[@Zamolxes77]

Control scheme looks like it has been developed for consoles. Looks like a console peasant game too, simple and shallow.

[@StarpointGemini]

Looks like, but it's not. We are PC gamers at heart and even though we will release this on Xbox One, playing with mouse and keyboard was the main focus and it's the easiest way to play.

[@attila535]

Bad VA, pfft. Scott you haven't played Star Wolves yet.

[@samparisi7827]

this game looks so fucking boring