Steam Controller 2 design leak, bcacheFS ban, Wine + Wayland by default: Linux & Open Source News

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[@simian3455]

happy birthday, can't wait to see all the progress your going to make this year.

[@AdmiralBison]

Can Tuxedo consider making Linux Pads/Tablets (4:3) please? I would love a Linux "iPad Pro" but with software and hardware openness - Up to 8TB SSD support - MicroSD - 2TB MicroSD are out now and Ultra capacity 4TB will be out next year - LTE 4/5G sim or esim - Stylus support - ESSENTIAL for note takers and annotating documents such as myself (including the 4:3 aspect ratio) - Built in kick stand - Don't need back a back cover that only adds to thickness. ** Bonus if it does like the Miniforum and uses an AMD 8840U

[@a.randomjack6661]

Joyeux anniversaire l'ami 🎂

[@SIGMA_BLYAT]

NO.. THANKS

[@hamtaro126]

GOOGLE IS A WANKR... AGAIN!!! THUMBS DOWN!!!

[@gljames24]

Discord upgraded the Electron version so audio share will work. It's currently in Discord Canary!

[@BenjaminWheeler0510]

OMG!!! That’s huge news

[@renner0395]

It only took them years.

[@GardenData61371]

Still not as slow as Valve! ​@@renner0395

[@RogueRen]

FINALLY

[@TheSchildkroet]

What is canary?

[@marioalexanderski9598]

Happy Birthday!

[@GardenData61371]

I use Wayland btw

[@no_name4796]

I use mir btw (Nah, jk. I use x11)

[@P1XEL07]

@@GardenData61371 Same here, Wayland as always.

[@googleisevil4115]

XD

[@rchltmedia]

wayland no probs!

[@thingsiplay]

This is the way.

[@AkaTwixo]

and discord canary fixed screenshare (with audio) on both x11 and wayland

[@gljames24]

Yeah, they upgraded to Electron e32 which has Wayland support!

[@bigbay1159]

omg finally

[@deadwillowtree]

took them 7 fucking years but at least they did it

[@trustytrojan]

does it run in wayland mode by default (when running a wayland comp)? if so i might switch back to it instead of vesktop

[@Straw..]

@@trustytrojan yeah

[@CyborgZeta]

A Steam Deck style controller is something I've been waiting for since I first got my hands on a Deck. I've loved symmetrical stick layouts ever since I first got my PS1 as a kid, and most controllers these days are asymmetrical. I like symmetrical for retro games that use the D-Pad in particular.

[@RogueRen]

I LOOOOVE the Steam Controller 2 design, its literally my dream controller. I hate asymetic sticks and the DualSense is MASSIVE and hurts my hands. I would give anything to have that controller right now. At the moment my go to controller is the 8bitdo Pro 2.

[@WyvernDotRed]

When the Deck is too finicky over Steam Link or it's sticks are too sloppy, my go-to is the 8BitDo Pro+. I slightly prefer this older version over the Pro2 which my brother has, over the quick standards switch and better grip without the paddles. But the Deck's back buttons and grip do work perfectly for me, so the Steam Controller 2 would be the only controller I consider when it releases.

[@spambot8896]

happy birthday Nick!

[@tuxfranko24]

Are you a spambot?

[@spambot8896]

​@@tuxfranko24 yes

[@tuxfranko24]

@@spambot8896 don't hack me

[@dasvegy]

Happy Birthday to our favourite Linux KZbinr!

[@xperience-evolution]

The important thing about the sticks is not if symmetrical or not (I prefer symmetrical) but if they are hall effect sticks or not.

[@cameronbosch1213]

I really hope hall effect sticks become standard at the high-end.

[@Dan01-01]

TMR sticks are basically hall effect but better, I don't know why people keep wishing for hall effect

[@cameronbosch1213]

@@Dan01-01 Still, hall effect is a lot longer lasting than standard sticks.

[@PinguDEV]

Happy Birthday :)!

[@Antonio-Sandoval]

The PS5 controller problem is definitely a you problem. Your hands are huge man, I can get my thumbs from the resting position in the dpad and buttons to the stick maintaining the same position no problem without touching my thumbs (maybe I just have little baby princess hands uwu), maybe a duke controller would fit you better, btw happy birthday nick!

[@jankowalski5310]

Which controller do you prefer is completely personal take. My first controller with an analog was an Xbox 360 controller. I really don't like it mainly because it is asymmetric. Switching to dual shock 4 was mmm. On controller I mostly play games where you are using analogy at the same time or games where I use only dpad and buttons. For me it is more comfortable keeping both thumbs in the same position most of the time in the game. Steam controller 2 render is exactly what I was hoping but I must say it looks a bit ugly. I gladly buy it if it's like render, functionality first.

[@foldionepapyrus3441]

Yeah the Xbox controllers do tend to be much more comfortable for larger hands - which probably makes sense they are designed and developed by folks generally larger than Japanese folks - same with the steam controller though in that case the shape and size is good enough for my big hands and still smaller handed folks (at least that is all the reports I've ever seen). That said the Deck isn't so ideal for me - but bulking out the shell to be really comfortable would be silly for a portable really - its a compromise I can live with (or elimiate by padding out the protective shell)

[@asphalt2554]

theres an uwu in this comment so its based

[@josephdegarmo]

Happy Birthday to one of our favorite Linux KZbinrs!!

[@rubendriezen7177]

What do you mean: "I didn't like what I see"? As someone who has a steamdeck, this controller layout is awesome! We've been asking for a standalone controller like this for years.

[@MangoPanic]

The controller looks like a silly little face... Looks like a Steam Deck controller without the screen, which is exactly what we've all been asking for! Will def be buying as long as it has rumble

[@WyvernDotRed]

The Deck got it's rumble from the trackpad haptics and these look like the same modules. So would that suffice for you? I assume it will be the same. Noting that this rumble emulation would work better in a lighter controller than on the Deck, where it works well enough for me already.

[@MangoPanic]

@WyvernDotRed Idk, I'd really want to feel it before buying but that's not really possible Ig. The rumble in the Deck barely counts as rumble because it's just the haptics and doesn't work well in rumble scenarios. It's fine because I trade it for portability, but on a dedicated controller, it would be hard to choose to use it over my DS4 & 5...

[@zodiepupper]

i'm incredibly excited for the controller. it's basically the steam deck layout but on a controller which is something i have wanted since i got my steam deck years ago. the organization of the buttons and sticks normally don't affect me much but i have always preferred the symmetric controllers because the sticks are normally in a position where i can reach and manipulate them more reliably. i have smaller hands though so maybe that's why.

[@HakanSeven12]

Maybe you can add FreeCAD 1.0 release next time

[@zackshannon834]

See I'm happy the sticks are symmetrical. I was an Xbox user from the first one until I ditched the console at the end of the Xbox One era and went to a PS5 and I absolutely love how comfortable the sticks are. It's another reason I like the steam deck I like how the sticks are symmetrical versus something like the ROG ally that I ended up returning within 30 days because I didn't like my hand squished at the bottom

[@c101vp]

having bought an OG steam controller I had two pain points with it: the trackpads are way worse than those on the steam deck and the lack of a second stick and dpad makes emulating some consoles a pain. this design looks like it will eliminate both of those issues while retaining the same arc of control as on the steam deck, where if you arc your thumb you can access all of your controls. we also saw something similar in valve's steam deck booklet so we should've expected this. can't wait to try this controller

[@foldionepapyrus3441]

I'd have been really happy with the OG steam controller having no stick myself - those trackpads are pretty darn good, and as long as your using steam input so flexible they are great for any game - I spend more time with the joystick pretending to be a D-pad than using it as a stick. Also really don't like the steamdeck trackpads as much - they are just not in a position that is as useful (at least to my big hands - I padded out the protective sleeve to put my hands in a nicer spot to make them more properly useable - can get by without but its just not as good). So I'm actually more in doubt on this controller than anything - it looks like the compromise that make sense for a portable handheld computer might have been brought in a bit too directly so the controller will suffer ergonomically.

[@WyvernDotRed]

Having gotten a second-hand Steam controller a bit ago, while the hardware is very neat it only really works as a PC remote. Which is how we use it, for a media PC I made from a laptop with a broken screen. Saves us having to use the horrendous remote 'optimised' interfaces on Android TV.

[@joec3390]

Glad to hear that Cinnamon has a built in night light feature now. Much needed improvement.

[@electricmiragemedia]

Happy birthday! Really enjoy your analysis and news

[@Invid72]

Steam controller looks great. Looks like a Steam Deck with the screen removed. Also, we have symmetrical thumbs so symmetrical sticks make sense. I hate asymmetrical sticks on my Lenovo Legion Go and love the controls on my Steam Deck.

[@AdmiralBison]

Ergonomics is key at mitigating considerable size and weight. - Spacing removes cramp button layouts - Deep grips and balancing prevent uneven heaviness.

[@P1XEL07]

Happy Birthday Nick!

[@juanreina4554]

Happy birthday man, good linux and open source news and here's to more news and your personality for more years!

[@zenbusuchan]

Happy Linux News day, Birthday man!

[@THeck_23]

Happy Birthday, Nick!

[@lukastram4990]

@8:00 like the slow scrolling of news 😊

[@gibbsfreenthalpy]

Happy birthday and all the best to you, Nick

[@RetroDelete]

Happy Birthday! Thanks for the news!

[@n.m4497]

HDR/Colo protocol is about to be finished in wayland. Same for session restore

[@NovabitsYT]

happy birthday nick 🎉

[@ianakotey]

Happy birthday to us both Nick! 🎉

[@Maisonier]

Happy birthday🎉 Linux human

[@matthewdee6023]

Happy birthday dude!

[@PainweedingPills]

Happy birthday, Nick, and thanks for the video!

[@SFtheWolf]

I wish people didn't want every controller to be exactly the same as the big 2 consoles. I loved the original steam controller precisely because it wasn't.

[@Noggisoggi]

Happy birthday, Nick! Additionally, I've been enjoying your videos for quite a while

[@gabbieblue]

happy belated birthday nick! thank you for the incredibly useful content

[@Miata27]

Happy Birthday! Thanks for the reliable and interesting news every week. Very nice to keep my linux knowledge up to date 🐧

[@wafelranger7497]

Happy birthday Nick, love your videos!

[@shApYT]

Valve knows ergonomics. Look at the first controller, index knuckles and the deck itself.

[@MrAlexFortis]

Happy Birthday, Nick 🎉🎉🎉 P.S. controllers aren't the best thing anyway

[@skelebro9999]

happy birthday! hope you and your loved ones continues to stay healthy!

[@rchltmedia]

HBD mate! hope you bring good news to linux community.

[@PenguinByte]

Happy Birthday, Nick! 🎂

[@Ghuze_]

I’m personally very excited about the steam controller 2, especially if the quality and feel are similar to the deck

[@Slugbunny]

Happy birthday, Nick, and to many more! 🥂 You have been irreplaceable for my Linux journey in terms of motivation and information.

[@badcalculon]

Happy birthday, Thanks for your work

[@Masqueey]

Happy Birthday Nick! 🥳 (Let's give him a present by all posting separately to boost the video in the algorithm! 🎁)

[@Game7Red]

Happy Birthday 🎉🎉

[@kenrq63]

Happy birthday Nick, I hope that today is TREATing you well... ;-)

[@franzricci484]

Happy Birthday btw 🎉

[@michaelarighi5268]

On a side note, Cinnamon on Debian 12 offers a Wayland-optimized version of Redshift, which seems to work seamlessly. I've been running it for about 10 months and it seems to perform as well as the old version did at its best, without any bugs I've noticed.

[@thingsiplay]

Steam Controller 2 The Steam Deck had multiple iterations of its prototype design. Which means there were multiple versions of design files for each, before it even hit a prototype building. We don't know how far the Steam Controller 2 design is, if it was even build as a prototype and which version it is. I personally didn't like how the original Steam Controller felt in my hands. And I also underestimated the final look from Steam Deck and thought it would feel bad in my hands. The point is, we really need to hold and play with the device, to make a decision. I don't trust these images anymore. I truly believe in Valve. It has 2 touch pads, something I miss by all other gamepads and why I still stick with my xbox controller. I will probably adopt it day one...

[@slizgi86]

All the best, Nick!

[@Pegaroo_]

I think valve will have thought of all your concerns on the new steam controller. We all had similar thoughts when we saw the controls lay out of the steam deck too

[@Kamion008]

From what I have seen using wine with native wayland brings fps in genshin impact from 130 to 150-160, which is practically the same as x11, provided that I was using a wine staging tkg version(9.19 or 9.20) and not 9.22

[@katzicael]

Happy Birthday Linuxdaddy 🥳🥳

[@Nothing-f8z]

The old steam controller design was amazing, I just wish I could swap out the front. I didn't want the joy stick, Would have been nice to swap it out with a D-pad and not have an indent on the second trackpad.

[@Tsunamii_]

Happy birthday! 🥳

[@Akshay56633]

Hey Nick, I have been following your channel since its initial days. As you mentioned your experiment of running elementary OS, I was thinking maybe “The Linux Experience” name suits better for what this channel stands for nowadays… Also Happy Birthday!!! 🎉

[@duckrinium]

Happy Birthday! Wishing you all the best!!! bcachefs situation was really silly, really not justifiable behavior, especially in open source

[@guss77]

All the complaints about the controller are not about the sticks being symmetrical, just about various controllers with symmetrical sticks having not great position. Asymmetrical sticks basically means that at least one stick will always be in a suboptimal position (unless your hands are asymmetrical).

[@552jacki3]

I prefer symmetrical sticks because I need to use the left stick and dpad at the same time and using the dpad with your index is infinitely easier than using the left stick the same.

[@fixerage]

Happy birthdaaaay Nick, I wish you the best in the world and I can't call my week good without watching your news I swear.

[@critizen.official6742]

Happy Birthday my boi!

[@BeefIngot]

Asymmetrical sticks are to make the distance between the sticks greater for big hands. if the distance is appropriate already there isn't much reason to have them be asymmetrical.

[@Ari-lv8nc]

Happy birthday to both of us 😅🎉

[@mrwebworld]

Happy B'Day Mr.Nick 🥳🥳🥳

[@thescrewfly]

Have a very algorithmic birthday, Nick!

[@DJDocsVideos]

Happy Birthday! Hope you have a good one.

[@Linux_ASMR]

Happy birthday Nick and to your channel 🎂

[@josegramaxo]

Happy birthday from Portugal.

[@lexcelius6921]

Happy Birthday Nick.

[@plentyofpaper]

Optimal stick placement on controllers is more a matter of primary inputs than it is symmetry (although symmetry is still a positive.) Basically, primary input methods should be top left and top right, secondary should be bottom left and bottom right. The Playstation layout has D-pad and face buttons in the primary positions. Generally, this works well for 2D gaming, especially platformers. The X-Box layout has Left stick and face buttons in the primary positions. A lot of games use this as the main layout, and it's intuitive and comfortable. But it honestly gets pretty awkward for some games that require frequent face button input and camera controls. Then there's the WiiU layout with both analog sticks in the primary positions. Funnily enough, while not a console known for it's shooters, the layout actually makes a lot of sense for it. You get a symmetric layout with both sticks in the primary position. I won't speak for the controllers as a whole, but the layout is actually great for a lot of modern games. Issues with the analog stick placement on the game pad is an issue with controller shape, and unrelated to the symmetric aspect. The best layout really is game dependent. But both thumbs in the primary position is best. Offset, or both thumbs in the secondary position can be argued, but I think most people would be better served with an offset layout. I hated the PS2 and PS3 controllers for being stuck in the past and not offering controllers well suited for 3D gaming. Ironically, since then, the indie revolution has really brought a lot more old school style games that work nicely with a D-pad, so I'd say the layout has somewhat come back into style (although I still wouldn't recommend it as the modern standard.) Then there's D-Pad plus right stick in the primary positions. There's a reason that to the best of my knowledge, nobody has made this monstrosity. Mirror images of the above layouts are technically just as good, but never used. And we're not even going to discuss the 2 analog sticks on the same side of the controller combinations.

[@dragonek_gnu_linux_pl]

im happy of update of cinnamon theme for other distros. i remember my experience after installing debian with cinnamon desktop. Was Rlly bad . Now it can be acceptable :D

[@robfahey7363]

A late Happy Birthday Nick!

[@MichaelSaamone]

I appreciate the bonus valve giving us the desktop mode as a bonus . Obviously it's marketed as a gaming device , but I still think it's worth it for valve to work with the Linux community to fix the glitches in desktop mode as well as the anticheat . I hate to think Steam OS is the new Lindows .

[@pju28]

Happy birthday 🎂🥂

[@GingerZero]

Joyeux Anniversaire Linux news man

[@AliYar-Khan]

Happy Birthday and wanted to know whether they (Tuxedo) ship to Asia or not ?

[@AdmiralBison]

The thumb sticks do look further apart than the PS5 controllers so the perhaps the bigger spacing may help.

[@Rahmancarr]

Happy Birthday! 🎉🎈🎊🎂🎁

[@HarukaJad3]

Bonne Fête Nick! Hope you have a good day!

[@yukihun]

A bit late but Happy Birthday! 🎂

[@ANGELRA]

Wine will still default to xwayland, the wayland driver will kick in if the xwayland doesn't work for some reason

[@TV-kj3gi]

Happy Birthday Nick. We both have Birthday in the same time period 😂😂

[@Ro1138]

Joyeux anniversaire, Nick ! Merci pou ma dose d'actu libre hebdomadaire !

[@ruudvankleef]

Joyeux anniversaire, Nick 🎉

[@VallThyo]

I absolutely can't use asymmetrical controllers, since this one is from steam(meaning it will work flawlessly on linux) and symmetrical - which makes possible to use the d-pad with your finger and the thumbstick with your thumb(asymmetrical don't allows this) - it's perfect, if it's not too heavy for my tendonitis hands(another thing asymmetrical controllers are terrible for), it will be my main controller for sure, very excited for it.

[@EchterAlsFake]

Hi Nick, I wish you the best for your bithday, have a very great weekend! Thanks for the information :)

[@enigmaster84]

Happy birthday, Nick!

[@itz_me_kratos]

Happy birthday fellow penguin Wishing you many more happy years ahead

[@Drazil100]

I have always used asymmetrical sticks but I do not mind the deck’s layout. I am quite in favor of how the dpad and sticks have equally priority and this looks to be the same.

[@israelperez4862]

Happy Birthday Nick :)

[@Cart1416]

why would they move away from the steam deck's sticks, those were like the wii u and I like the wii u, wii u layout helps me a bit play Minecraft so I can sprint jump and look

[@hiru92]

oh no , comments get deleted

[@Fristpeople]

Wait I heard Tuxedo had a license problem. Is this true? If so are you going to cover the problem on your pod cast?

[@ghost_of_you_tube]

Happy birthday 🎂 🥳 🎉 🎈