Tesla Model Y - Winter Driving TOP 3 TIPS & Regenerative Braking ISSUE

Living just above Steamboat Springs, Colorado, at roughy 7,500 feet, I drive in a lot of snowy conditions. I picked up my 2022 Tesla Model Y Performance in early December 2021. Thus, I had a few weeks of bad weather driving with the 21 inch Michelin Pilot All Season tires. The stock performance set up wasn't great in the snow. In fact, it was SCARY. So, I made some changes that makes my Model Y a lot safer in the snowy winter months.
CHANGES:
1. Get a second set of dedicated winter tires and wheels. I went with a 19" set up.
2. Regenerative braking requires the driver to adjust their driving habits in the snow.
3. Change a few settings.
Comments are always welcome.
Charlie
#Tesla #Teslamodely #Teslawinter

[@elppa1996]

Thank You !! I have been lost reading all the winter tire information online. This video was very helpful.

[@saq4851]

Great video … your explanation and reasoning for your recommendations are the best online … thank you !!

[@TJAllenwood]

They need a snow driving mode that changes the settings for optimum driving.

[@Steamboatsmyhome]

Agree 100% and with the old "track mode" the technology is there.

[@StormyDog]

Tesla has changed their winter driving algorithms since this video and greatly limits regeneration for a period of time if it feels the tire slip. The rest of the advice is great. From Minnesnowta...

[@mousevision661]

​@@StormyDogthx

[@All-sk9qz]

You can turn off one pedal driving

[@jasonwalker1959]

Since seeing this I've been playing around with "Off road assist" mode. Totally different driving experience in the snow. Like, really confidence inspiring. It seems like that radio button/capability isn't available for every car as I reached out to a friend who has a M3 and he said he doesn't have that option. But he also said (and he lives in snow country and drives up mountain pass roads weekly) that he was impressed with how his M3 handles in the snow. Maybe that capability is inherent in his software or vehicle (seems odd). anyway, try off road assist mode

[@BirgitteRasine]

Very well done - clear, concise, none of the usual and unnecessary bells & whistles. Exactly the info I was looking for. Subscribed!

[@officeathand2761]

Great video thank you from NJ!

[@moabdog]

Great tips. Thanks for posting

[@flytekk]

Great video thank you for hitting all the points!

[@aw7425]

Super tips, stay safe and thanks

[@behnamanisi1]

Good work man thank you for the option review of the cars settings!

[@johnreese3762]

Great advice/video! Love Steamboat!

[@frank1672]

Thanks, these are valued comments.

[@3030hp]

Thanks for your video.

[@tuanand955]

First winter with my 23 M3P. Downsized to 18" wheels on the Xi Snow tires. Appreciate the heads up regarding the regen braking!!

[@samerabdallah82]

Flagstaff Arizona gets a lot of snow. Thank you for your video. I just got Model Y 2020 last month, I hope it drives really well on snow.

[@ZeHoSmusician]

5:23 Sounds like you could resolve that problem with the 'off-road assist' setting: _- _*_Off-Road Assist_*_ is designed to provide overall improvements when driving off-road. In addition to allowing the wheels to spin, Off-Road Assist balances the torque between the front and rear motors to optimize traction. Off-Road Assist improves traction on rough and soft surfaces where one side of the vehicle may lose traction while the other side still has traction. When Off-Road Assist is on, the accelerator pedal provides more gradual torque, which is useful for crawling at low speeds (for example, over rocky surfaces). When enabled, _*_OFF-ROAD_*_ displays on the touchscreen above the driving speed._

[@CSAFMedia]

Agreed, have you tried 'Off-road Assist' and does it improve traction in snow?

[@thesimplesarah]

Great video! I’m getting ready for a road trip to Utah so this was super helpful.

[@Steamboatsmyhome]

Awesome. Have a safe trip.

[@khmerkrew]

thank you so muchh, I understand how my car behaves now!

[@leeshengwu]

Great Video. Curious on how the M Y range changed in winter in your area.

[@janderson1990]

Great video! As someone who lives in Canada, I'm doing winter research before buying a Tesla. I found this video incredibly helpful.

[@Steamboatsmyhome]

Great. I'm still using the same set up and no issues in the winter.

[@tyronemcgillick]

great video, thnx

[@galbar-or7851]

Everything he says in this video is right on target. I have a 21 ModY in Jackson WY and it’s terrifying to drive in super slippery conditions with the car applying a breaking force when you lift your foot off the gas. Additionally, I find my range is so diminished in the cold that I have to charge each and every trip, where my California Mod3 I can go two or three days between charges.

[@johnrromero1658]

I live in a similar environment in Utah and have a long distance AWD Y. Helpful!

[@fosterdogg]

Thank you for the great video. 2 things to clarify: 1) Creep, roll and hold only affect final moments after regen (not the actual regen when foot is released from pedal) 2) I also live in Colorado and cannot adjust regen in my 2023 MYLR. Therefore I added S3XY buttons specifically for this feature. It does not void warranty and is very useful since Tesla took this feature away due to EPA testing issues

[@Steamboatsmyhome]

Thanks for that info @fosterdogg. I will take another look into those buttons. I kept waiting for Tesla to modify the software but that might take too long.

[@franborrero]

dont have a tesla yet but maybe i will (just moved to CO), thanks for the tips!

[@BriggsGamer]

Thank you for the information! I also have a 2022 dual motor Model Y. Last winter I drove a Ford Flex which was great in the snow. First time I went over a bridge my Model Y spun out. Had the regenerative braking on and it went into a spin. Scared me!

[@Steamboatsmyhome]

Yep - it can get you in trouble if you're not aware of how slick the snow is. Sorry to hear about that.

[@mathieuraymond6618]

Great infos I was looking for in real winter conditions! I would be amazing to know the kind of range you’re getting out of your MYP in very cold temperatures! Thanks 🙏🏼

[@mwaldyke]

I live in Michigan, and my experience with my 2022 Model Y LR is pretty much the same. I would add one thing. Electric power allows you to apply a very small amount of torque to the wheels, and this makes my Tesla very good at starting on slippery (icy) surfaces without spinning the wheels. This is the best car I have ever owned for starting and stopping on slippery surfaces. I also experience the rear wheels kicking out on curves if I apply too much power. However, I usually feel the traction control kicking in and controlling the excess yaw quite quickly. It's a pretty fun way to make 90 degree turns at city corners.

[@crystalkeara8868]

I love that it has more power. I only have to accelerate a little to plow through mud and ruts (I live on a dirt road). When I put the car in Chill mode it drives more like my Audi Q5. I barely have to touch the accelerator to get up through the mud now. My Q5 was great in mid and snow but my Y is even better. I barely feel any slipping and hardly fishtail

[@jaime2001sastre]

Great comments Thank you, a good 4 to 5 months of winter driving also in my Area (Ottawa, Canada) Reducing the tire width is a good hint (Which means I better get some New Wheels) AND ALSO based on a comment below, someone in another video suggested creating a WINTER Driver profile, Adjusting Regen, Tire size, Cancelling Mirror folding) (Also As you Mention the Regen power, I FEEL that it acts like on my motorcycle when I downshift in the rain sometimes a bit to fast, causes slipping!!) Great video for Winter! My hardest point up until now is getting the windows to stay defrosted went coming out of the garage and then driving in -15C /-20 (Yes also have a dirt road but only a 2022 Model 3 Std RWD ... so back to feeling a bit like my 70's and 80's real wheel driving experience!!)

[@Steamboatsmyhome]

Great analogy with the motorcycle in the rain. That's exactly what it's like. Although not a scary in the Y.

[@FrunkensteinVonZipperneck]

“mirror folding” improves traction? Sideways? In a ditch?

[@GolfTesla]

helpful. Thanks

[@jasonwalker1959]

Thanks for the video. How Tesla handles in the snow is one of the biggest disappointments I have with my MY. I was thinking that the weight of the vehicle would help with traction but unfortunately the weight hinders due to momentum when the tires break lose on the snow. Have you tried "Off-Road Assist" mode. I haven't but saw a different video that stated it balances the power between front and rear. I'll try that and see.

[@conantdog]

I ordered a CT in 2020 annd have received a confirmation notification. I always rent Tesla's when I go on vacation to southerly environment but I never thought about what you are talking about when driving over snow and not being able to Coast. I lived in Maine for a decade and I know exactly what you mean. Sounds like they should definitely offer some type of winter setting options for regen. Thanks for the video , you have given me some really serious things to consider about my first Tesla

[@Reeses248]

Thumbs up for the beat at the beginning ❤

[@pinolero.]

Pretty solid advice. I do have track mode in my '23 MYP. I'm curious as to what settings you may have saved for snow use. I did try purchasing the 19" wheels/rims from Tesla, but their website stated that it is not compatible. I'm guessing I'll have to find a third-party solution. Lastly, coming from an MDX Advance you're spot on about the torque setup. I could easily and safely take an exit ramp at 40 mph, that I take on my regular work commute to ensure my emissions readings were measured. I cannot do the same with my MYP in mimicking my past driving style. The software is not tuned to automatically compensate or give power to the wheels that need it in real-time which is a shame and a disappointment. My MYP is literally a dumb car when it comes to traction control, my MDX's Super Handling All Wheel Drive (SHAWD) never disappointed.

[@karthikv1212]

We live in the Northwest and have 2022 MYP (Michelin AS), and 2021 RAV4 Prime XSE (18 inch Blizzaks), latter is a Ski car with 8+ inch GC and goes up to mountains every weekend and had no trouble ever, Until one day I got stuck one day right just a few hundred ft from home. It was not a regular day, because we got overnight 2ft+ snow and no one could go out next morning. Whole Portland Metro got swamped with calls, and we did not get snow plows for a week. But I thought I could make it out because i had winter tires. Problem was not traction, but depth of Snow was get packed underneath the Battery Pack. Ultimately had to dig out tonne of snow to clear myself. Tow trucks that came, also got stuck that day. Only ones that I saw made it out that day was Chains + Ford Excursion, 2500HD lifted, 4Runner Lifted. Ground clearance matters in Deep snow. So, i recommend getting Chains + Snow Tires + lift kit, which will give you better chance.

[@cocochanel9291]

agree 100% on the regen braking. Definitely sketchy on ice conditions. In my original Model 3 we had the option of turning it 'down' on how aggressive it reacted. Great car tho

[@Steamboatsmyhome]

Thanks for the comment. Yes, I know in the past, regenerative sensitivity could be manipulated. Which gives me HOPE that TESLA will do something about it and make these cars safer in slippery condition. Again, I LOVE My Y but I was pretty shocked when I first experienced these conditions.

[@KelelaSB]

4:20 Pretty sure all versions of the Tesla vehicle software allow you to adjust the regen settings. You might be able to get even finer adjustments with the S3XY Buttons @enhauto

[@shou635]

@@Steamboatsmyhomeyou can get s3xy buttons to adjust this.

[@intellectuallyhungry]

In truth, we adjust our driving in every vehicle to the environment one is driving in- heavy rain/ hydroplane, ice patches/ release gas, snow we tap on breaks (pump breaks).. so while it is important to know what to do for various climates in a Tesla (or any regen braking), it is still the same principles, just slightly different handling of the gas/ brake & remembering to adjust settings. Excellent Video!

[@ryanfenn4982]

I get what you are saying but I just drove in snow/ice for the first time in my Tesla today. With snow tires and it was shocking how bad it was with regen. I live in alaska so winter driving is not new to me.

[@davidtwillis]

@@ryanfenn4982 I agree. Tesla needs to fix this. Going down a snowy hill in a tesla is one of the scariest things I have done. I have driven a lot of different cars/trucks, and Tesla is the worst (when going down hill or slowing down, it does just fine going up hill). I would rather drive my old geo metro with bald tires than a Tesla. And all then need to do is add a function to disable regenerative braking to make it one of the best cars in the snow.

[@ryanfenn4982]

@@davidtwillis I agree 100% starting on an Icy hill go up, the traction control is amazing better than my 4*4 truck with studs! Going down hill, or trying to slow for a scary spot terrifying. Thank god I have good tires or I would be in a ditch for sure. Come on Tesla! If I had more twitter game I would let Elon know. But alas all I do is sometimes comment on KZbin!

[@SebastianPatten]

All about the sidewall for winters imo. Id always go for smaller wheel, bigger tire

[@leonardastolfi5139]

I'm from Canada and we are used to ice and snow. You always want to avoid sudden acceleration or sudden deceleration. Its a bit like when you are walking, if there is ice or snow under your feet you want to avoid quick movements. For the regenerative braking, it is the same principle. Sudden anything when its slippery is not good. To avoid sudden deceleration you can simply put the regenerative option to roll. In addition, with the last update there is now The Track Mode you can adjust the braking assist , the power going to the front or back wheels and skid assistance. Then you can save your preferred setting for snow driving and go back to it whenever necessary.

[@TripleZme]

Can’t do that in newer Tesla where they have taken away the regen option

[@Steamboatsmyhome]

Setting region to roll does nothing for actual driving unfortunately.

[@lawrencecoleman6998]

also because the car is heavy the forward inertia will overcome the tire friction and it will skid.

[@MrSeamusMurray]

Thank you very much for the great hints and tips. I have to ask, what was the thinking behind you playing the music over your speaking. I found it a major distraction. Something to think about for your next video. I hope you take advice well.

[@jonathanarmer2445]

4:42 - Regen will stop slowing the car when the tires slip because if the tires aren't spinning, there's no reverse torque being applied to the motors - I've driven my Model 3 plenty of times in the deep Tahoe snow and the wheels can brake suddenly when letting off aggressively but if it slips, it instantly catches again and there's no "loss of control". On top of that the traction and stability control does a great job at keeping you going where you're pointed, no need to exaggerate the slip. Obviously if you're on summer tires the car's systems are useless but with a good michelin all season or winter tire, Tesla's are just excellent to drive in the snow! Great feedback from the wheels through the steering and pedals, just make sure to get a good tire on.

[@GeorgeBest-im6zi]

After a very scary 5 hour drive through the mountains, wish I had watched this first. Our dual motor Model 3 (2021) was kicking out on the many curves and sliding when going down steep hills. We are used to these conditions but it definitely takes rethinking our skills when using this car. I missed being able to gear down and the feelling of being in control.

[@Steamboatsmyhome]

Sorry to hear about that. And yes, why aren't more people talking about this?

[@kenhowell2280]

Gearing down in snow pulls the tires off the road just like regenerative braking.

[@FrunkensteinVonZipperneck]

Did you have snow tires?

[@MervinGutierrez]

Great video thanks for the tips! Quality is great what camera is this filmed on?

[@Steamboatsmyhome]

Sony A7s 3

[@reactdev101]

Tesla should make something like ABS system but for regenerative braking when you are driving the SNOW. Not all people are aware of how to drive it in these conditions. Thanks for the informative video.

[@Henrich205]

Thank you for the video. Do you feel cold coming into the cabin from roof top glass? I have experience from other cars with such roof windows and even if the window is smaller, you can feel the cold after some time and when you have the option to close the window you really feel the difference. What is your experience with this?

[@JorgeSaenz1913]

Here’s an issue i found while driving in moderate to heavy snowfall. The daylight running lamps are aimed upward and are very bright. This causes the snow at eye level to reflect all that light right in front of you creating very poor visibility. Tesla should ad an option to turn those off at night while headlamps and fog lamps are on. would help immensely.

[@Steamboatsmyhome]

Thanks, I have not noticed that. The lights re bright and I once turned the light off ad just used the parking lights to drive in heavy snow.

[@aarondamato3634]

Wow great video, very informative and certainly the best I've about winter driving in the Tesla Model Y! I would be curious where you received your Gemini wheels from, direct from Tesla? If Tesla installed those rims, were there any questions/concerns with regards to the Performance Model Y and those larger red calipers?

[@Steamboatsmyhome]

I purchased them on Craigslist. And they work great on the performance. Other people use them too.

[@kenhowell2280]

If you go with Michelin CrossClimate2's you will get killer snow control and not melt them off when it warms up. In steamboat it might not be an issue but on the front range you can go from 10 degrees to 60 in a 24 hour period. I don't want to worry about destroying my winter tires in Colorado weather swings.

[@BruceEllis1]

I decided to to with CrossClimate2's as well on the advice of my local mobile service advisor here in Pagosa Springs. We have plenty of snow and local streets stay icey most of the winter. So far I have been impressed. Currently keep settings as Chill/Comfort/Regen on Hold. I am finding I can control the skidding by feathering the accelerator pedal off more slowly than in summer. Might fool around with Off Road Mode soon or set Regen to Roll. (2022 LRMY) - Thanks for the Video - Agree winter tires are a must and a learning curve compared to LandCruiser with winter tires.

[@nemaranamasssada1103]

Thanks for the video. Exactly the content I am looking for. Do you have any experience with Model Y RWD in this kind of weather?

[@Steamboatsmyhome]

I don't have experience with RWD. And if you ever might see know I'd go Dual motor anyways.

[@josephto3069]

Hope to hear from technique or driving the model Y In snow . A bid more details

[@marc-andrehudon5511]

great review! Did you PPF the front of you car? i live in Canada and during winter rock on the road are very present.

[@Steamboatsmyhome]

I just did a ceramic coating. I should PPF it though.

[@iamZiNDi]

great video, and nice break down! I learned a lot. I just got a MYP and I love it. Preparing it for Canadian winters with the X-Ices as well. How did you use the tesla rims? Their website says they are not compatible with the MYP.

[@Steamboatsmyhome]

They are 100 compatible. Dig a little deeper to find the truth. Not sure why Tesla says that.

[@InframefilmsCa]

Why not simply disable the regen breaking while on snowy conditions?

[@Steamboatsmyhome]

@@InframefilmsCa You can't turn it off. That's what we're hoping for in a software update.

[@dk1199]

Thank you for sharing your experience. I plan to buy the gemini set coming with pirelli sottozero 3 (stock), do you know if these work as well as the Michelin X-Ice?

[@Steamboatsmyhome]

@@dk1199 I'm not a fan of the Pirelli's. It's say the Blizzaks and the best, then x-ice. And if you have a choice, I'd opt for something better than the Pirellis

[@peacockfarm]

Charlie, Have you (or others) been to Bridgestone Winter Driving School in Steamboat. If so, was this helpful in helping teach you to drive the Tesla more safely in snow/ice? Thanks

[@shawnswc2539]

Hi. So sorry I looked on my I KZbin Sites that I have saved and looks like it's with the auto models. The He went into settings and went to driving settings. And though he found generative breakings and he was able to set them to where he wanted to be at. I had thought they would have transported oval to the other vehicles too. He had a model 3 by the way. Well he did the settings on

[@johnlewis1430]

I live at 6300 ft. In WY and have driven rear wheel drive 911, awd 911, benz wagons, bmw sedans, three different land cruisers, benz diesel SUV, and other vehicles, all using Blizzaks, or on occasion the Michelin or Nokian equivalent during our 7 month snow season. I know how to handle a vehicle in snow - and on dry tracks. Having owned 5 Teslas and driven one in the snow for the ‘23/4 winter season and having had many discussions with other local Tesla owners, I (and they) have concluded that the nature of the regenerative braking, even with brand new Blizzaks on board - in my case a 2022 Model Y - is such that the vehicle is simply awful to drive in particularly slippery conditions relative to aforementioned cars and similar tires. Deep snow is no problem. Tesla needs to offer the option of disengaging the regen. It is a very strange experience when the regen kicks in on icy roads or packed slippery snow. For me it feels quite different than when I touch the brakes lightly. With regen the back end likes to shimmy which in turn triggers a loss of control more so with increased speed. My wife will not drive the vehicle in these conditions. Obviously very slippery conditions - snow on top of ice, packed snow, etc, I can go down a rabbit hole on types of snow, different speeds, tire pressure etc predicate different driving style, but the net result is that in all other cars I have driven, even a 911 with good winter tires, the experience is simply far safer when letting off the accelerator in those cars. So if you visit snow country in a Tesla a few times a winter and swap your tires while doing so, maybe it is not a big deal but living in snow country I would prefer not to own a Tesla unless they make what is a very simple digital flip of a switch and allow regen to be controlled by the driver. My previous Teslas were all driven in SF so not an issue. I have repeatedly reached out to Tesla to ask about the lack of regen control. If nothing else they might explain the logic behind the lack of control choice. I get corporate silence though the low level employees who are experienced drivers living in snow country universally (the 7 I spoke with) quietly agree with me. The corporate silence is nasty. If someone asked me if they should purchase a Tesla and drive it in snow I would say absolutely not. Safety is the first job of a vehicle. In every other condition I love the Tesla. In slippery snow/ice conditions it is, in my opinion, a dangerous product until regen can be controlled by the driver.

[@matthiasherfert1342]

What's up guys? Why no mention of studded tires? Greez from northern Sweden

[@jamesdunn9158]

Did you go with the 255/45-19 x-Ice?

[@johnpetterjensen5011]

do u feel any difference between comfort, standard and sport on steering? i rly can't notice any difference. i feel its too stiff with any of those

[@badtoro]

At 0:40 had me oh noes a cliff

[@TestitTom]

Great video! I just bought a Model Y. Do you have any recommendations for all-weather floor mats?

[@Steamboatsmyhome]

I went with the 3D Maxpider and like them very much

[@tomooo2637]

Regenerative braking in the Tesla can be precisely controlled with SEXY buttons, you can put a button pair to increase/decrease (including zero) the regen as desired.

[@Steamboatsmyhome]

Yeah, but that also might affect the Tesla warrantee. Not something I'm willing to compromise.

[@woodengiraffe]

you didn't really go over the "anti slip" setting i noticed you had turned on. Do you always leave it on?

[@timurx6128]

Has anyone used track mode for snow driving? Seems hopeful. You can fully control regen 0-100%, 0% feels very weird in a Telsa - definitely love the regen under normal circumstances. You can also control the front and rear power distribution. Not sure what to set for this 50/50? Or 70/30? The big question is what to do with the “assistance” setting. Seem like a bit would be good to have. You can create a profile shut for snow.

[@arthur445]

Have you tried creep mode? Feels like braking is similar to a gas car

[@ThetinyhouseNet]

Curious if you considered going for an even narrower tire and an 18", non-Tesla rim? I live in Vermont and have a MYLR on order. I always run a separate set of rims with dedicated snow tires on all vehicles.

[@Steamboatsmyhome]

Yes, I'd go narrower and smaller all day long as long at they fit.

[@sagarchamlagai]

Where did you get those 19” wheels?

[@grahamswett6430]

What size tire did you put on the Gemini wheels? Stock 255/45 R19 or ??? Thanks

[@davidwarr8600]

Hey, have you heard of 10 and 2 or 9and 3?

[@BlackKokane706]

What have you done for going down steep hill with snow?

[@ChiiBomb]

So it’s best to turn on the option for the Tesla to act like a gas vehicle in the snow? So you can take your foot off the gas and coast

[@zigplyahoo]

Hi. Great video. I was wondering if your winter tires did leave the Gemini wheels sticking out a bit. I just bought Michelins CrossClimate and the rims lip sticks out by 7mm on both sides. The tire size is 255/45 R19?

[@Steamboatsmyhome]

My tires are pretty even with the wheels. Not as bad as the stock performance wheels/tires that stick out and seeming find every curb out there ; )

[@humuzhang370]

I felt regen braking the opposite way. It provided an optimal way to slow down with your own control. You do need to slow down on slippery road from time to time, when following a curved path, e.g. Driving a gas car, you step on the brake. If the applied force is too much, it will cause the vehicle to side slip as well. With regen brake, the wheels are allowed to turn with greater resistance though. If you get used to by how much to let the foot off the accelerator, you’d be able to slow down the car with the deceleration you want. I used regen braking in snowy weather and I felt I was definitely in control. Feel free to prove me wrong.

[@Steamboatsmyhome]

Yes, that is all true. And I too love the performance and feel of the region braking. I'm specifically referring to the time you're driving fast and you unexpectedly come up to an icy area. What you want is no resistance so you can coast through the area. But with regenerative braking, a slight resistance is applied which can often cause the tires to lock - albeit for just a fraction of time. Which is never easy.

[@ktmsyoutube6170]

I currently own 2019 Nissan Leaf which has a B mode. The B mode applies “mild” regenerative braking when you release the accelerator. I live in Minnesota so deal with snow and ice every winter. The B mode applies the correct level of regenerative braking so when you release the accelerator you do not skid. I’ve owned the Leaf for 3 years. I ordered a MYLR is Feb of this year with delivery next week. This past Saturday I did a MYLY test drive in snowy, Icy roads and was shocked when slowing down for a stop and the MYLY routinely skidded on me. I was in Chill, Comfort, Roll mode also. Tesla needs to implement a software update to fix this safety issue.

[@ninadpatil220]

Thank you for video. Can you share which wheel you put, you did mention Tesla wheels 19 inch but they seems to be out of stock at the moment and what's the size of tire you put on? Thank you in advance.

[@Steamboatsmyhome]

I purchased the set of 19 inch gemini wheels that came off a model Y long range. So the stock wheel off a Tesla Y. The Tesla website say they won't work but they work great.

[@mdarks4117]

Nice. So these wheels fit on the performance model without any issues? Cuz the Tesla website showed the those & induction wheels won’t fit on performance model Y

[@Steamboatsmyhome]

Yes, they work great.

[@sunilparekh7344]

Great video I was looking at what to do as MYP is horrible in the snow and like you say dead scary on the stock Michelin PS4. Quick question I did look on Tesla's website and they do have Gemini 19" winter setup with Pirelli available but also says not compatible with MYP so not sure why they have it mentioned that way. Specs are the same as you mentioned Gemini 4x 19x9.5J ET45 Gemini Wheels 4x 255/45R19 Pirelli WINTER SOTTOZERO 3 Tires. From Tesla website -Note: This package is not compatible with Model Y Performance Dual Motor All-Wheel Drive configured with 21" Performance Wheels

[@Steamboatsmyhome]

I purchased those gemini wheel on Craigslist - take offs and had tires mounted. Tesla might say the Gemini wheels don't work but they do,.

[@Firestorm637]

Does chill help with regen

[@onlineoffgrid]

What exact size tire did you get.

[@hanslai7198]

You can change it to rolling mode instead of hold (regenerative)

[@Steamboatsmyhome]

Yes you can, but it seems that has more to do with what happens at a stop sign than at 50MPH

[@madhavrao974]

Regenertive breaking is dangerous on icy roads. There is no way to disconnect . Inspite of being aware of this, I had a dangerous skid. I had both models S &X, but never experienced this. Another incident is sudden loss of cabin heating when the outside temperature around -9C. No fix for both these yet. I regret buying model Y & hate to use it in winter conditions, till they fix these problems. I drive with studded winter tyres.

[@Steamboatsmyhome]

Yep, I was disappointed the first time I locked it up. Wasn't the last time.

[@fr3238]

This did improve with a software update that I believe came in December 2021, "snow mode" which basically initiates permanent 4 wheel drive when it's slippery and also the regenerative breaking is done on both the front and rear motor to minimise the chance of slipping. Teslabjørn has tested this.

[@davidtwillis]

@@fr3238 I don't see a snow mode on my tesla, and it has all the updates.

[@fr3238]

@@davidtwillis You won't see this in any menu, it's something that is automatically engaged when slippery winter conditions are detected by the car.

[@fr3238]

@@davidtwillis Check this one: kzbin.info/www/bejne/e3-phaaFqK2rmdU

[@grahfkarate1799]

Have a LR with the stock 19” and they are fine in winter!

[@Steamboatsmyhome]

Define fine? While yes, if you drive in snow from time to time, you can get by. But I found that compared to a Q7, Highlander and Tundra, the Tesla takes more attention to get to your destination.

[@CSAFMedia]

2 years later, how is the Model Y holding up in snow? 🤔

[@jonathansmith283]

interesting info.. we just test drove a Y this week. it may be our next vehicle. - are you suggesting , two (2) sets of tires ?, be safe ~ JDS/CT

[@Steamboatsmyhome]

If you live or drive in the snow every winter, yes. It's cheaper than swapping out tires each year.

[@jonathansmith283]

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[@UnobtaniumsQuickReviews]

Your OEM's were Pilot Sport All Season 4, correct? I am planning on picking up an EV6 GT, which has similar power to the Model Y P, and it arrives...this winter...in the Midwest...on Goodyear F1 Max perf summer tires. So needless to say, I'm swapping that out so I don't die. Were the PSAS4's really "that bad"? I ask because I, too, live on a very steep gravel road (my driveway itself is 27% incline for 100 meters). I am torn on Crossclimate 2, or PSAS4's. The EV6 GT requires 21" rims, as well, and looking into it, I think that's kindof where it's at, because it has large rotors (15" front, 14.2" rear, both vented), being performance oriented, so 19" rims will not fit. Limited choices, as you noted in your video.

[@Steamboatsmyhome]

Yes, the Pilot are not great. It's AWD so you can get places but on everyday snow driving it's tough.

[@deanrhodenizer938]

Don't forget those winter tires you chose do not have the speed rating of the stock tires so you need to make sure you don't get carried away with speed on dry pavement. Another change to driving habits...

[@winger0608]

Get Nokian hakka EV tire, their performance on the snow will surpass Michelin x-ice

[@Steamboatsmyhome]

Yeah, those are great tires but I couldn't get them here in time. The Blizzack are great as well but could not get them either.

[@locharlie]

Do you have a square tires setup or staggered? I watched your video and wasn't quite sure. We are picking up our MYP in a week and have been researching for winter tires. We are in Canada.

[@Steamboatsmyhome]

I have the same size all 4 for the winter set up.

[@locharlie]

@@Steamboatsmyhome Thank you so much for responding and your insightful video.

[@EnthusiastCarHangar]

New owner in Northern Utah here. How is the clearance? Did you ever get stuck in a snow bank? That is what worries me a bit.

[@Steamboatsmyhome]

Clearance is decent. I've driven in 14 inches of fresh. Keep your speed up. The wheel wells got pretty packed over time.

[@TrendyStone]

I've had my model 3 through two winters in Utah and I'm at the ski resort nearly every weekend and have found it to be a great car in the snow. I had the Tesla winter tire package (Pirelli sottozero 3s) and they were great tires in the wet and cold but decent in ice and snow. This season I'm running the Michelin X-ice Snow. Should be even better.

[@snorkelgutt]

This is why I,ll never getting rid of my diesel Volvo V90CC, are all Tesla models useless on winter roads?

[@shou635]

Cross climate 2 tires are good.

[@2kMario]

Winter Snow tyres are most important

[@cindymoses2562]

Have you experienced any trouble with the windshield wipers freezing up?

[@Steamboatsmyhome]

No issues with the wipers . . . at least not yet. It's a good idea to turn the heat on several minutes before driving - doesn't take much away from the battery.

[@justin11dunn]

You can turn off regenerative breaking on all Tesla’s. It’s in the settings. This feature has been standard on all teslas. So you should be fine with coasting.

[@nickmacaluso6585]

Not off but reduced. They need to allow for more control of this feature.

[@Steamboatsmyhome]

I cannot turn mine off. I can't even reduce it.

[@davidtwillis]

there is no turning off or reducing on mine. I wish they had that option. I think it is just the older models.

[@grahamswett6430]

Not on the 2023 Model Y

[@BWT599]

Did ya sell your Revel for the Tesla? I sold my Model S 90 D for a Jayco Terrain 19Y.

[@Steamboatsmyhome]

Pretty much. More work and less travels forced the sale.

[@ryanfenn4982]

Live alaska and took our first drive today, even with snow tires the first time I lifted off the accelerator in a scary spot I got sideways! Did not expect that. I would love a snow/ice mode. Came on KZbin to see if it was an option but doesn’t sound like it

[@Steamboatsmyhome]

I'm not happy to hear of your experience but it does drive home the issue - Pun intended

[@crystalkeara8868]

Snow is fine. What about mud season? I live in a mountain in Vermont. The dry dirt, snow, ice and frozen ruts are fine. Not looking forward to mud season. So far my all season tires have been fine. My model Y is better than my Audi Q5. The regen braking took a minute to figure out, especially when icy and driving downhill. I just let up off the accelerator a bit as well. I actually find I have more control

[@Steamboatsmyhome]

We too have a muddy season. It drives well with both winter and normal tires. I just tired of cleaning the car.

[@crystalkeara8868]

@@Steamboatsmyhome one day I stared driving down my driveway and the car started saying stop/break. I tried but the car would stop because the wheels locked up and I slid down the driveway. The antilock breaks didn’t engage, I had no control of the steering or wheels. It was scary. I have no idea what happened. Now I’m afraid to drive on any amount of snow. I don’t have snow tires because I just bought my car and winter is almost over. I wonder if it was the phantom braking people talk about

[@TurreTuntematon]

Would it not be better to have wheel covers on those Gemini 19 in the winter? Protects from snow and ice.

[@Steamboatsmyhome]

Yes, I'm sure it would help. But I just don't like the look of them . . . ;)

[@VincentDale]

You can set it to roll and do away with the regen

[@Steamboatsmyhome]

@VincentDale That's not the case. While setting to roll has an effect on how the car reacts at a stop light, even on ROLL, if you let off the accelerator at 20, 30, 40 MPH and more you still get the lunge of the region kicking in.

[@psdale4]

What's the color of this car? It's gorgeous.

[@Steamboatsmyhome]

Midnight Silver Metallic - looks great with the red calipers and silver winter set up. Thanks

[@funkysafa]

How did your MY handle this last winter with all the snow we got?

[@Steamboatsmyhome]

With the dedicated snow tires it goes everywhere I need to go. And even trailering 2 snowmobiles.

[@DennisMathias]

You used to able to turn of regen braking.

[@shawnswc2539]

Again really sorry. I thought they had transferred it over to the new models from what I got told