STELLA vs SALTIGA vs VAN STAAL (Which Should You Buy?)

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Ryan Morie

Ryan Morie

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In today's Video I compare and review the Shimano Stella SW, Daiwa Saltiga, and Van Staal VSX. The specific models presented in this comprehensive comparison are the Shimano Stella SWB 14000XG, Daiwa Saltiga Expedition 5500H, and the Van Staal VSX200. They are all awesome spinning reels which bring many top of the line features to the world of spinning reels. By the end of the video I hope you all have an idea of what is the best saltwater spinning reel on the market for you.
Throughout the video I compare multiple components, appearance, and fishability. At the end of the video I give my overall recommendations on who should buy which spinning reel. Component sets covered include the drag, spool, bail, line roller, body, internals, and handles. The Shimano Stella SW, Daiwa Saltiga, and Vanstaal VSX all have a place in a fisherman's reel arsenal and I hope today's video helps clarify some common questions.
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@RyanMorie
@RyanMorie 3 жыл бұрын
Whats up everyone! I've been trying to step up the quality of the review videos, let me know what you think! 🍻
@FerreraGlen
@FerreraGlen 3 жыл бұрын
Liked the 3 of you LOL.. good touch... as you compare the reels in the first segment, I felt the background music was a little too loud and I had to concentrate to hear you. Having said that, I could never do a video as good as you do, so take it for what it is worth. Also, thank you for serving our country!
@RyanMorie
@RyanMorie 3 жыл бұрын
Glen Ferrera I appreciate the feedback! I just try to slowly make each video better than the last. 🍻
@andrewberntsen8197
@andrewberntsen8197 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing quality Ryan I am very impressed have much respect
@williamlamiman499
@williamlamiman499 3 жыл бұрын
tbh Idec, vid quality already was really good, just keep crankin out vids, preciate it
@danvudan4124
@danvudan4124 3 жыл бұрын
Cho xin 1 máy câu .please
@millieatr
@millieatr 2 жыл бұрын
I'm thinking of getting the Shimano Stella , Grandma can just wait a couple years for that operation
@gyeoxn7815
@gyeoxn7815 2 жыл бұрын
Grandma can wait!
@wbwills2
@wbwills2 2 жыл бұрын
Oh my…decisions decisions…don’t forget the sweet fresh st croix..
@chrisweiss6363
@chrisweiss6363 Жыл бұрын
Does she need a kidney? I have an extra maybe we can make a deal win win win
@millieatr
@millieatr Жыл бұрын
@@chrisweiss6363 Wow , bro your a life saver
@chrisweiss6363
@chrisweiss6363 Жыл бұрын
@@millieatr as long as I can get one of them daiwas
@patrickharris4641
@patrickharris4641 3 жыл бұрын
High school pier kids won’t like this one chief... I’m sure they’d call you broke or a googan if you told them you don’t really like van staals
@csmithfishing4380
@csmithfishing4380 3 жыл бұрын
Patrick Harris a certain pier that starts with j and ends with o
@RyanMorie
@RyanMorie 3 жыл бұрын
Patrick Harris 😂😂😂
@bandmann7231
@bandmann7231 3 жыл бұрын
Csmith Fishing 26.8937 -80.0543
@csmithfishing4380
@csmithfishing4380 3 жыл бұрын
BANDMANN thats it
@andyjame9687
@andyjame9687 10 ай бұрын
The first thing I noticed about this reel is its weight kzbin.infoUgkxM68VkfsQhHaabDce1IwOCXuvumcpbZ_k . I wouldn't say it was uncomfortable but it was a little heavier than other similarly sized reels. However, that didn't deter my enjoyment of how smooth this reel is. I spooled it with 20lb. Tuf-Line XP and it's perfect for what I use it for. I have it paired with an 8'6" Medium/Fast Okuma SST Salmon/Steelhead rod. The combination is perfect for casting and even drifting. I used the reel all day and didn't experience any arm or hand fatigue except when fighting a few fish! The bail is solid and feels strong when engaging by reeling and manually closing the bail by hand. The large rubber handle grip is very comfortable. It's got a powerful drag, silky smooth reeling, and feels very comfortable in the hands. I recommend it!
@BusyBee11226
@BusyBee11226 3 жыл бұрын
I just went and picked up a Saltiga for my dedicated Sabiki rod and reel for the pier and I absolutely love it.
@SaltySeaCaptain
@SaltySeaCaptain 2 жыл бұрын
A saltiga for your sabiki rod? Why?
@BusyBee11226
@BusyBee11226 2 жыл бұрын
🇺🇸 ‘Merica …. That’s why.
@speediercuber278
@speediercuber278 9 ай бұрын
you do these three ways and its soo fun to watch.
@jasonbrown6621
@jasonbrown6621 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I’m a new fisherman so learning differences and what to look for in a reel has been very helpful. So many to chose from!
@montanatatum9598
@montanatatum9598 3 жыл бұрын
Personally I only use the Van staal when the weather here in Long Island is bad while jetty fishing on the rocks with the wind rain and salt flying everywhere in waist-chest deep water and frequently dunking while unhooking fish. The Stella is a superb option for beach fishing I prefer it over the 200vsx bail-less I own because of the line lay. The Van Staal people think because the price it’ll fit their need but it’s not to fun holding a 3 pound reel while casting a 6 ounce plug for 5 hours. But let’s be honest kids in Florida on the pier has no need for them.
@Fords_N_Fishin
@Fords_N_Fishin Жыл бұрын
That’s the truth but if the weight is the real issue why not go for a 150?
@jackvoodoo2900
@jackvoodoo2900 3 жыл бұрын
ive had a VanStall VR 175 for 300 days now fishing everyday in the surf and off the rocks swam with it battled long tail tuna GT and much more with it i love it so much
@lelandcarr542
@lelandcarr542 3 жыл бұрын
I fish the florida panhandle and I have a vsx 200 perfect cobia and tarpon reel
@dennisdenison4174
@dennisdenison4174 3 жыл бұрын
Great video man. I’ve had a Staal VR150 for a bit over two years so far and have fished surf in and out of the water, backwater and bridge and it’s done great for me but I can get it’s not for everyone. Keep up the good work man!
@RyanMorie
@RyanMorie 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@Berto-1117
@Berto-1117 3 жыл бұрын
Wow man just found your channel, great video!
@RyanMorie
@RyanMorie 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@leandrogonzalez6539
@leandrogonzalez6539 3 жыл бұрын
Fire vid and the quality is on point no cap
@Captchriscamacho
@Captchriscamacho 3 жыл бұрын
I have the new Stella, I love it, actually fell out of the boat into haulover inlet for a few minutes a few months ago. Haven’t shipped it to shimano for service yet and it works as if it was new.
@bornlucky9564
@bornlucky9564 3 жыл бұрын
If Saltiga will cost you fortune and take you months to get it back, I been there,
@montanatatum9598
@montanatatum9598 3 жыл бұрын
@@bornlucky9564 the haulover inlet in Dade county?
@johnvigil9762
@johnvigil9762 3 жыл бұрын
Big fish and spinning reels don't mix. They might catch one or two fish even more but it's kinda like taking a 22lr rifle into battle. 22lr will kill, but I can't depend on it! Wake up learn to cast..when you learn to cast you won't have to listen to these guys anymore. 30lbs of drag is no joke...and compound that with the fact that 30 lbs of pressure applied to less than 1/2" alloy. Please!!!
@Elias-xu7uw
@Elias-xu7uw Ай бұрын
​​​@@johnvigil9762you just dont know how to fish then. Learn how to use your drag. My 4.9 gear okuma has extra large gears with big teeth made from quality material. It can catch many tuna easily and halibut
@masterwon
@masterwon 3 жыл бұрын
if i'm not mistaken, the jointed handle crank is made so that it can be transported/stored with a smaller profile - you loosen the locking screw so that you can fold/tuck the handle towards the body and lock it into that position by tightening the screw again so that it does not protrude outwards when transported/stored for those who do not want to remove the handle completely and chance losing the handle.
@louielouie4187
@louielouie4187 2 жыл бұрын
Nice job TY
@RyanMorie
@RyanMorie 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@44studawg
@44studawg 3 жыл бұрын
Glad to see you love that Expedition. Reel is such a beaut! Have you tried the 2020? Basically an Expedition mixed with all the pros of the Stella. Awesome awesome reel.
@RyanMorie
@RyanMorie 3 жыл бұрын
I haven’t gotten to use a 2020 yet (other than playing with it in a tackle shop) I’ve have heard great things from guys I really respect in the industry
@richardhardin191
@richardhardin191 3 жыл бұрын
Joint in the handle is so the handle can be loosened and folded for storage. Has been for years. Easier to just remove but that was the intent on the original design years ago. Can't agree with your opinion about the appearance of the Stella. Gorgeous reel. Every model. 2020 even better. Shimano also has best customer service and parts are reasonably priced and easy to find. Stella is the beast, always will be. Try to review a Twin Power for us next. it is also a beast that is gorgeous and sooooo functional. Saltiga looks like its ten years old after a couple months. i had one and will never have another.
@TomMendoladrums
@TomMendoladrums 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, your comparison videos are wonderful. Keep doing them. For many years I’ve been a Shimano user. Recently I bought a Daiwa. I was impressed with the workmanship of the real and how sturdy it feels. Especially the bail wire and the handle compared to my Shimano in the same price range. As you get into the entry level Shimano’s from $70-$125 the recently released Daiwa reels are made better IMO. Shimano has not improved those lower level reels yet to my satisfaction.
@RyanMorie
@RyanMorie 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@aandamar89
@aandamar89 Жыл бұрын
Daiwa rusty sooner
@johncali9
@johncali9 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Ryan you are the Best
@letsgetit2962
@letsgetit2962 3 жыл бұрын
Stella SW is best reel I've ever owned. Use to use it up north throwing artificials at Big Bluefin Tuna. The drag is so smooth & its the best reel to fight a monster IMO.
@ourluckfishing2801
@ourluckfishing2801 3 жыл бұрын
I like the review. Maybe for a future review you could do reviews for a little bit less expensive tier reels for example Penn Slammer 3, Florida Fishing Ospreys, and Tsunami Salt X reels.
@Tyler-kw9ce
@Tyler-kw9ce 3 жыл бұрын
Florida fishing product ospreys are just relabeled Chinese junk.... if your on a budget buy a Daiwa BG and call it a day.
@ourluckfishing2801
@ourluckfishing2801 3 жыл бұрын
@@Tyler-kw9ce I have a bg and I like my Osprey better.
@Tyler-kw9ce
@Tyler-kw9ce 3 жыл бұрын
@@ourluckfishing2801 I'm just not spending money on a reel someone had built in China relabeled by an American company is all. And BGs are pretty much the lowest baseline for a saltwater reel. Saltists are great reels and very lightweight. Slammer 3s are tanks but run on the heavier side. And I don't trust tsunamis quality control.
@ourluckfishing2801
@ourluckfishing2801 3 жыл бұрын
@@Tyler-kw9ce yeah I see what your saying. I mostly fish my slammers but I enjoy throwing other reels from time to time.
@Tyler-kw9ce
@Tyler-kw9ce 3 жыл бұрын
@@ourluckfishing2801 for sure that's the fun in it. I love trying others set ups and hearing why and how they chose it. And there's a rod/reel for every application. If you have a chance try out a saltist im super impressed and I've fish about everything out there. I want to try an Accurate twinspin sometime. I've got a few other Accurates and love them. And a saltiga would be awesome for big snook and tarpon!!!
@JustaRider808
@JustaRider808 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great video! I'm a new subscriber. I was wondering what do you think of the Shimano Twin Power? I have the opportunity to pick up a used one for cheaper than a new Saragosa.
@RyanMorie
@RyanMorie 3 жыл бұрын
Twin powers are superior to the Saragosa, but not $200 superior (as they are priced new) so if you can get a used one in good condition for a good price it’s worth the pickup. This only applies to the mode that was released a few years ago (2015-16 I believe) 2021 a new model was released and I haven’t gotten my hands on that one
@JustaRider808
@JustaRider808 3 жыл бұрын
​@@RyanMorie Thanks for your response! Yeah he's giving me a pretty great deal on a 2 year old Twin Power. I'm going to scoop it up! Thanks for your input!
@Gokywildcats11
@Gokywildcats11 4 ай бұрын
Like to see a budget friendly rod and reel setup. Not just for ocean for all in general
@themaskedfisherman8596
@themaskedfisherman8596 3 жыл бұрын
I'm a huge fan of Japanese made Daiwa reels but I think all three you line up here are brilliant spinners
@bradenwende9982
@bradenwende9982 3 жыл бұрын
Stellas are made in Japan as well
@Distantttt
@Distantttt 2 жыл бұрын
nah van staals are honestly trash lmao
@streetfighter398
@streetfighter398 Жыл бұрын
@@Distantttt you paying a shit ton for a Chinese reel. Rather have Japanese or American made
@Distantttt
@Distantttt Жыл бұрын
@@streetfighter398 yep. i sold mine. just an awful reel. garbage drag, garbage line lay, garbage quality control. the list goes on.
@streetfighter398
@streetfighter398 Жыл бұрын
@@Distantttt what other reel did you replace it with?
@stripervince1
@stripervince1 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic review. Agree. Saltiga would be my pick. If you look at exploded views of these reels you'd run away from the Stella. Millions of parts. Millions. Saltiga maybe 100 parts, van staal even less
@Tyler-kw9ce
@Tyler-kw9ce 3 жыл бұрын
Saltiga vs Stella Saltiga wins. The Staal is a beast of its own. Kind of an apples to oranges argument. As far as finish I had my Staal skip across the pavers in my driveway and it took me several minutes to find a scratch. They are built tough. And my go to snook reel. And the weight of a vs150 paired with a lamiglass 9' is perfect whole setup weighs what some bass rods do.
@threebodyp2569
@threebodyp2569 3 жыл бұрын
2020 saltiga is a beast, i caught a 120lb YFT by 14000 saltiga
@manuel4332
@manuel4332 3 жыл бұрын
With what pound line?
@raulcolmenero
@raulcolmenero 3 жыл бұрын
You covered it all dude. Great video. But I think you can find the magseal oil online just not from Daiwa look it up.
@RyanMorie
@RyanMorie 3 жыл бұрын
I have seen that stuff, read some good stuff online, also read some horror stories about reels seizing up after using the third party oil. I definitely can’t bring myself to recommend it to people that spent $800 + on a reel
@raulcolmenero
@raulcolmenero 3 жыл бұрын
@@RyanMorie very true. Better just send it in and have them deal with it. That's what I'll do when mine stars acting up
@evanthompson9815
@evanthompson9815 3 жыл бұрын
I want to get a saltiga for my canal reel. I'm currently using a zeebaas 25. Which I love. It's very similar to a VS
@bornlucky9564
@bornlucky9564 3 жыл бұрын
Stay with Stella.
@JoseLopez-sn3tv
@JoseLopez-sn3tv 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve had them all!!! Diawa is the way to go. Currently fishing with the Diawa Dogfight 8000H....
@tonywong303
@tonywong303 3 жыл бұрын
How do you become so rich, tell me!
@FinFactorFishing
@FinFactorFishing 2 жыл бұрын
Love the Stella bail! The audible click makes it feel like you're loading a rifle
@RyanMorie
@RyanMorie 2 жыл бұрын
It’s much better than most!
@MB-wq8cp
@MB-wq8cp 3 жыл бұрын
good video
@gewglesux
@gewglesux 3 жыл бұрын
I'm a fresh water fisherman... but living on Long Island all my life and spending a lot of time In the Montauk Area. I can tell you I see more of the Van Staal's on Roofs and in rod Holders. I once saw an old Bronco with more money on the roof than under the hood. I know that this is in no way is an indication of "which is better" It's just an observation
@darki_lures
@darki_lures 7 ай бұрын
we need some more reel stuff , what is about the new 23 Saltiga ? plz get one and take a look whats inside ?!
@eastcoastoutdoors902
@eastcoastoutdoors902 3 жыл бұрын
This is just a flex.
@rkw221
@rkw221 2 жыл бұрын
old days... 80s & 70s...sigh I'm now waaay to old. thx sooo much. ;D
@jackofalltrades8353
@jackofalltrades8353 3 жыл бұрын
The joint you mentioned in the real handle that you didn’t like… I have a Penn that’s similar and the only time it comes in handy as when I’m folding it down to fit inside a box for traveling. Instead of taking it completely off you can just unscrew it a little ways and fold it down
@jeffreydicesare7552
@jeffreydicesare7552 Жыл бұрын
I fish NJ beaches and use VS150 with a SUR1142 gloomis. Perfection
@BALDASSARIO
@BALDASSARIO 2 жыл бұрын
How about Okuma ??? Any comparison maybe in the future… Great video by the way !
@RyanMorie
@RyanMorie 2 жыл бұрын
Never had one, or played with one in real life. From everything I’ve read, they’re built extremely well (on par with a Stella and Saltiga) maybe a little bit more robust, but they do weigh a great deal.
@MrKveite1
@MrKveite1 2 жыл бұрын
@@RyanMorie um no, okuma is NOT a stella or saltiga......
@csmithfishing4380
@csmithfishing4380 3 жыл бұрын
the guy at the beginning with the van staal should have been wearing a juno bait hat, grundens, and xtratuf boots to be an accurate representation of a juno kid lmao
@tucker5198
@tucker5198 3 жыл бұрын
The pier queers
@RyanMorie
@RyanMorie 3 жыл бұрын
Csmith Fishing that would’ve been perfect!
@ChadCarney-hu3du
@ChadCarney-hu3du 3 жыл бұрын
they think just bc they buy a reel meant for tough NE conditions it makes them a tough angler lmfao
@over1498
@over1498 3 жыл бұрын
What's the Juno kid stereotype? I just started fishing, got a Kast King on a damn walmart rod, hiking all over trying spots out. I'm planning on going to the pier and don't want to be a kook 🤣
@Nofishnoclue
@Nofishnoclue 3 жыл бұрын
@@over1498 mate you have a kastking a Walmart rod and are new to fishing, just accept being a kook and don't mind what others think, everyone's been there at some point
@HookedonDealz
@HookedonDealz 2 жыл бұрын
What direction would u guys go Stella swc 6k or expedition 5500h thanks
@eskihisardenizcilik997
@eskihisardenizcilik997 3 жыл бұрын
Ryan thank you so much for this great comparison video. I love the saltiga and even the 15 saltiga is better than new 2020 stella in my opinion .Its torq power when fihgting and the unic "Rotor Break system" when casting is worth every cents I payed for it. I couldnt understand why you didnt mention them ? The torq of old saltiga 6500 4.3/1 is nearly % 39 more than any Stella on PG class !!! And still can wind 100cm per turn ! I can never trust a stella for tuna. Even a 4000 standart 4.9/1 Catalina fights better than 6000 pg Stella on the arena...
@jamesleadbeatter3632
@jamesleadbeatter3632 2 жыл бұрын
You should read Allan hawks saltiga expedition review he goes into lots of details and technical stuff
@gowanusbridge1268
@gowanusbridge1268 3 жыл бұрын
My Van Staal is a beast. Hate to admit it but I’ve fished it in heavy saltwater for 2 years. Haven’t cleaned it once. Fishes the exact same. The drag is still smooth. No problem.
@rainsong7327
@rainsong7327 2 жыл бұрын
they are king
@tommasofossati5123
@tommasofossati5123 2 жыл бұрын
To me the reel for life, for handy and last minute usage is the vam staal. Basically you wont think about the reel anymore, you wont care if you fall into water, nearly no mainteinance for the occasional user and you can (carefully) pressure wash it after every fishing trip. It wont run as smooth as the others, but is a go-to in my opinion. Also i like machining and mechanics so for me no other reel in the world exist anymore... Nothing romantic, just a practical (lazy) decision for a well built machine that wont disappoint me
@miketorre16
@miketorre16 3 жыл бұрын
Stella for looks and Performance
@jeffsmith825
@jeffsmith825 3 жыл бұрын
To me the Van Staal is a different class of reels. Much more surf oriented. I love my Saltiga Dogfights. The Stella is also very good. Either will do you well.
@geralddaculius358
@geralddaculius358 3 жыл бұрын
I wish i can have this reel too even it is so old is there anay good samaritan here from antique philippines💓💓💓💓
@anglerlandbasedbali
@anglerlandbasedbali 3 жыл бұрын
😍sultan rel
@vsonic86
@vsonic86 3 жыл бұрын
I thought the expedition version is a JDM product. How do you get it service? Send Back to Japan? I'm glad you said the winner is the Saltiga because that is what I just bought as 2020 saltiga 14000xh. But I just don't like the egg handle knob at all. Was wondering if it will fit with the expeditition handle. Because I heard a lot of people love that handle.
@mikemelina7395
@mikemelina7395 3 жыл бұрын
The Expedition handle doesn't have the sealing that the 2020 handle does. I have the exact same reel. I'll stick with that knob until someone comes out with something better.
@jackofalltrades8353
@jackofalltrades8353 3 жыл бұрын
Very good REASONABLE seafood shop in Sunset Beach ... Bill’s seafood. For those days the skunk visits Ryan’s fishing adventure!
@davesiu680
@davesiu680 3 жыл бұрын
does your saltiga expedition have spool wobble? I tighten the drag knob and there is still some slightly movement up and down when you shook the reel or by grabbing the spool. it feels something is loose. this happened to mine right out of the box brand new . I am just curious if this is normal.
@sonsofcauvery
@sonsofcauvery Жыл бұрын
It's actually spool hitting back to it's stop direction & not wobble.
@jameshoover5109
@jameshoover5109 3 жыл бұрын
How do you feel about the pen torque ?
@michaelvaldez4925
@michaelvaldez4925 2 жыл бұрын
Vaan Staal comes with a kit where it can come bail less or with a bail.
@ryanpopovici2760
@ryanpopovici2760 3 жыл бұрын
Should i get a vann staal tho, i have just two major cons about it. First, i am 15 and am not employed so getting 780$ is a real challenge, then the second thing is that my most expensive reel is a penn conflict so i have no clue on how to service them and take care of them. I would want to make it last
@KatiePhongh
@KatiePhongh 3 жыл бұрын
Van Staals are for hardcore surf fishing. If you live in Florida you don’t need a Van Staal. If you fish Jersey or NorCal surf then Van Staals are money. I have 3. VR50, VSX 150 and VSX 250. If I were living in Florida I would get the Saltiga Expedition and use it in the surf and as an inshore /offshore reel. For lighter surf conditions I use a Daiwa Certate LT. but if you don’t need a bullet proof ,crank it underwater reel, Van Staals have shitty drags, are heavy and the seals make for less than smooth retrieve.
@IanB22
@IanB22 3 жыл бұрын
It’s hard to argue that VS is nothing but the hardest of hardcore ...you ever see a rock crawling king of the hammers buggy compete in a luxury ride comparison... heck no ... @katiepongh ftw
@Tyler-kw9ce
@Tyler-kw9ce 3 жыл бұрын
Thats funny van staals are heavy. Yeah my VSX150 at 12oz is like fishing an anvil lol... you had an argument at the drag but to say they're heavy your insane.
@josephbergen1575
@josephbergen1575 3 жыл бұрын
Katie you are right. This video is comparing apples to oranges IMHO. VS is a reel designed specifically for surf fishing and not the same conditions as the other 2 reels.
@IanB22
@IanB22 3 жыл бұрын
I have to add that if the rod or reel is ever dropped from one of these cliffs, it can easily be retrieved and will work fine. In addition on a multi-day trip with no fresh water for rinsing, the VS could be a significant factor.
@lelandcarr542
@lelandcarr542 3 жыл бұрын
I fish the pier and hate surf fishing, and I fish navarre florida, staals are perfect, plenty of drag, manual, and durable
@seanmendyk7656
@seanmendyk7656 3 жыл бұрын
Ive been fishing a staal for 5 years ( only reel i use) and the line has never been knocked off the roller in big onshore wind. I fish LI NY so the wind kicks up pretty damn hard. Maybe a defect?
@RyanMorie
@RyanMorie 3 жыл бұрын
Nah not a defect, I've used dozens of them. I think I just emphasized the line coming off the roller a little too much in the video. It's happened to me maybe 10 times in a decade. Usually when using presentations that the line gets semi-slack (live bait, extremely light lures etc.).
@mikemelina7395
@mikemelina7395 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I kinda went "huh?" on that one too. I fish a Gen 1 Torque Bailless and that's never happened to me and I fish the same stuff you do. If you ever get the chance, try out the old Penn Torque, it falls right in the middle between the Staal and the 'tiga. I own 4 and wouldn't trade them for any other reels.
@jon3862
@jon3862 2 жыл бұрын
Shimano Stella SW number 1
@marcotabora320
@marcotabora320 2 жыл бұрын
Hi. I need your help. Twin power sw4000 or van staal vr75. Thank you
@DrJanLindberg
@DrJanLindberg 2 жыл бұрын
Daiwa 20 Saltiga all the way !
@watchman316ly
@watchman316ly 3 жыл бұрын
Great video- I really liked the beginning! I think you did a thorough job on the comparisons between all three. It was very fair. Clearly- I feel the same way. I had a 1400 Stella and I sold it. I kept my Saltiga Expedition 5500. The Saltiga's drag is much stronger and very robust. I have pulled sharks, tarpon, groupers, and stripers. It is a tank and you just smile, play a little with the drag, and winch those babies in!
@RyanMorie
@RyanMorie 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for the comment!
@spencerbass7142
@spencerbass7142 3 жыл бұрын
Good video.
@dionifishing2391
@dionifishing2391 3 жыл бұрын
Shimano stella 💪💪💪
@instintodepescador3015
@instintodepescador3015 3 жыл бұрын
Para mi los 3 son muy buenos
@ElBote54
@ElBote54 Жыл бұрын
I’m not sure, but you seem to be saying the availability of mag seal is only an issue in the US If so, why?
@manjatupon7493
@manjatupon7493 3 жыл бұрын
So,which one better of reel
@AfghanSoljer
@AfghanSoljer 3 жыл бұрын
I already had Stella but if i had second chance i will buy Saltiga 2020
@mikemelina7395
@mikemelina7395 3 жыл бұрын
do it.
@Texasmade76
@Texasmade76 2 жыл бұрын
You should have matched them up like the vanstall 5000 with a bail
@CurrentJAM
@CurrentJAM 2 жыл бұрын
I was using my Stella while viewing this, but I couldn't hear you over my roller bearing noise... :p I tried to order a replacement bearing from shimano, they have been sold out for over a year.
@RyanMorie
@RyanMorie 2 жыл бұрын
That’s rough! The sealing on the roller is improved on the 2019 version, but it’s still not perfect on any reel.
@MrKveite1
@MrKveite1 2 жыл бұрын
just take the roller bearing out and go to a place that meks bearings and get one there, they will make you one if they dont have one and it will be a lot better quality than the one you are replacing....
@jimbo4612
@jimbo4612 2 жыл бұрын
No Penn Torque? If were looking for the reel that is a cross over that can handle the beach taking a dunk in the waves, the jetty with splashing water, or offshore stopping a pissed off tuna that wants to make a blistering run or even taking on a species like a White Sturgeon from the Torque is exceptional. Stella Wise they came out with multiple sizes all the way up to a massive 30,000 that has 55 lbs of drag and holds 370 yards of 100lb braid so there is a tool for the desired species in question but there are some glitches with the Stella after its used for a period of time. Heavy but All around wise the Torque spinning reel is a Sherman tank with a jet engine
@peterschiang4328
@peterschiang4328 3 жыл бұрын
how smooth is the van staal vs stella and saltiga ? i would like to know cuz of light spinning fishing :) . thank you
@pierceordille7031
@pierceordille7031 3 жыл бұрын
Van staal can’t even compare can staals are not smooth
@Distantttt
@Distantttt 2 жыл бұрын
van staals feel like coffee grinders
@lurkingarachnid7475
@lurkingarachnid7475 3 жыл бұрын
I have a penn spinsfisher V 😎
@andizgarta6773
@andizgarta6773 3 жыл бұрын
Stella 💪💪
@kengravoisjr7728
@kengravoisjr7728 3 жыл бұрын
What about the SaltX!? Next episode???😁
@anotherburritotodd7906
@anotherburritotodd7906 3 жыл бұрын
Any opinions on Okuma Makaira spinner ?
@jamesw337
@jamesw337 3 жыл бұрын
Are you familiar with Alan Hawk? If not you should be, his web site is a plethora of information on Spinning Reels and gives some great insight on the mechanics and engineering of the reels. He's been a HUGE Stella fan for years but recently the Makaria has become his choice as the finest spinning reel on the market today!
@MrKveite1
@MrKveite1 2 жыл бұрын
@@jamesw337 it all depends who pays you to say what....
@jinsu0504
@jinsu0504 3 жыл бұрын
You shouldve used the vsb 150 or 200 to compare....sad to see vs losing points due to having no bail
@garylawlor2288
@garylawlor2288 2 жыл бұрын
I would love a Saltiga or Stella but there is now way I would spend so much money on a VS. For me, I don't fish with a reel in the water, a spinning reel needs to be silky smooth with no gear lash. The sealed reels are far too restricted in the movement
@raynman6466
@raynman6466 2 жыл бұрын
The only problem is they still put parts on the saltiga/stella that they use on their $100 reels. And that's why I'll never spend big money on a daiwa or shimano.
@lukemallet916
@lukemallet916 2 жыл бұрын
They are built for a specific purpose and if you use it for that purpose they are worth every penny. It's not made to be buttery smooth like the Shimanos
@user-jj9hd5ke2e
@user-jj9hd5ke2e 2 жыл бұрын
How bout u take ur Stella wetsuiti g
@antonioradulescu1724
@antonioradulescu1724 3 жыл бұрын
What rod ist that what you have ? And can handle a yellowfin or a shark?😀😀😀
@mikemelina7395
@mikemelina7395 3 жыл бұрын
The 2020 Saltiga blow everything else away. There simply is nothing that compares. I have the 14000XH and it's perfect. That said, I own four Penn Gen1 Torques as well and I absolutely beat the hell out of my TRQ5 Bailless. It's the perfect harsh environment reel and that where I fish. The 'Tiga is for the boat, but as far as "super-spinners" go, the one you didn't mention or feature is the one my grandkids will inherit someday. Gen 1 Penn Torque.
@caranx89
@caranx89 3 жыл бұрын
but this magsealed Catalina-Saltiga(the new ones are given a 5?year guarantee).....versus Stella wins with platinum service. The rod is also important, sometimes more!...if you don't have so much $$ you can go with Catalina. $ medium range? SLAMMER 5.6-6.2 ratio or SARAGOSA 8000 (you can put tuned spool or the 14k twinpower)....Saragosa 14k (xg) is released soon and expected 18k (hg)! If you fish varied the same you need the 4 SIZES with low and fast RATIOS/RETRIEVE.....7-8reels!!. You can start with sahara or spheros 5k< stradic.....16oz sedona-socorro 6k and fast bg 4k. 22-25oz socorro 10k< spheros or cabo80 for strong jigging and for topwater bg 5k or azores< saragosa 8k or slammer. 30-33oz lethal100< spheros 20k and for popping bg6500/8k< slammer hs ¿=? new gosa 18k.
@pitpit8080
@pitpit8080 3 жыл бұрын
Vanstaal has a knob upgrade!
@RyanMorie
@RyanMorie 3 жыл бұрын
TBH I hated using that even more. Felt super weird. Maybe I’m just picky 🤷🏽‍♂️
@johngrosariu1992
@johngrosariu1992 2 жыл бұрын
The Stella has a mobile joint at handle, not to make things more complicated but to fold the handle during transport…also missing from the review was price comparison. Otherwise nice reel talk.
@Texasmade76
@Texasmade76 2 жыл бұрын
You can get events start with the bail
@Kdjoao
@Kdjoao 3 жыл бұрын
I like daiwa the best
@jskiiss8193
@jskiiss8193 2 жыл бұрын
Yes Stella ..... Long cast
@Tight--LiNeZ
@Tight--LiNeZ 3 жыл бұрын
Even though the Van Staal can handle it. Please don't rub it around in the sand like that. My mechanical sympathy/OCD, just went into hyperdrive and I did a little sick on the keyboard. Now I have to strip and service one of my stellas or saltigas to be able to sleep tonight....p.s. what versus a Penn Torque or Torque II in comparison? I have every reel under the sun, but really love my Torque, if a little stiff from the seals...but I have heavy hands/arms so it doesn't really bother me. Cheers...rad vid bro
@mikemelina7395
@mikemelina7395 3 жыл бұрын
I own the 2020 Saltiga 14K, a Certate 5K and four Gen1 Penn Torques. The Torques go out everywhere. My go-to surf caster is the T5 bailless. Love it.
@danielsevers198
@danielsevers198 Жыл бұрын
manual pick up is great till a gt grabs the popper on impact
@danielmegahey7571
@danielmegahey7571 3 жыл бұрын
You didn’t mention the weight of the reels, for example in Australia casting stickbaits etc off the rocks for hours is very tiring. What is best for that mate? Also if it’s magsealed wouldn’t you just need to rinse it off after use and it would be fine unless you dropped it in the water? How often would you need it serviced? Love the video mate👌
@RyanMorie
@RyanMorie 3 жыл бұрын
Weights can easily be looked up as they vary from model to model, on Average Daiwa is a a few ounces lighter than Shimano. And yes for typical use water rinse is all that’s needed for magseals, however after a year or two of use (depending upon how hard it’s fished) maintenance to these parts is necessary. Cheers 🍻
@donaldsmith9559
@donaldsmith9559 Жыл бұрын
I shall go with Ryan Morie
@LaineDavies
@LaineDavies 3 жыл бұрын
I thought my 15 saltiga was the best reel ever, but the 20 Saltiga is just on another planet, no reel even comes remotely close.
@tomporgy1143
@tomporgy1143 3 жыл бұрын
15 Saltiga is $500.00 + sales tax cheaper !!! 😳
@axlrose2005
@axlrose2005 Жыл бұрын
How much drag of saltiga 5500
@rashad-tm4zm
@rashad-tm4zm Жыл бұрын
Nice video old steal tho
@danvudan4124
@danvudan4124 3 жыл бұрын
Kỉ niệm mình một máy .
@MjSportFishingTechnique
@MjSportFishingTechnique 3 жыл бұрын
Super video #mjsportfishingtechnic
@bryanli8584
@bryanli8584 3 жыл бұрын
But if u do a review in the feature the current reels will be old by then 🤔
@RyanMorie
@RyanMorie 3 жыл бұрын
Better late than never my dude!
@aidanmaitre5198
@aidanmaitre5198 3 жыл бұрын
I got a staal
@vaskodimoski5690
@vaskodimoski5690 4 ай бұрын
Which shimano stella model is the best ever made?
@fishingislife34
@fishingislife34 3 ай бұрын
2019 model
@SCHan247
@SCHan247 3 жыл бұрын
The stella is better than the saltiga. Daiwa uses expensive oil to seal bearings that is, at times, very hard to find. The van Staal is just as good as the stella, but a little different in class. The van Staal is more of a surf reel.
@mikeoxlong6883
@mikeoxlong6883 11 ай бұрын
I agree I’ve always used Saragossas and still do use and love them but find they aren’t really up to the task of casting all day and hooking monster GTs that we get in Aus. Whilst I don’t really have many issues with Saragossa I find I’m always replacing the bearings in the line roller which can make the drag feel clunky which almost never happens with the Stella and is obviously a deal breaker for me. I use Saragossas and Penn ssm for surf fishing and Stella 18k for top water brutes and found that perfect for me
@AndrewDoesLife
@AndrewDoesLife 3 жыл бұрын
Would love to see the new(ish) Tsunami Saltx reel compared against these reels as well!
@zenkiah554
@zenkiah554 3 жыл бұрын
Going to be outcalssed
@vincebreuning9113
@vincebreuning9113 3 жыл бұрын
Was going to suggest the same thing. Currently considering either a SaltX or Van Staal
@elie8362
@elie8362 3 жыл бұрын
That lady fish is a prime snook candy
@RyanMorie
@RyanMorie 3 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing!
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