Stephen A. won’t defend Scottie Pippen’s actions in ‘The Last Dance’ | First Take

[@jlbolinder]

Jackie MacMullan is such a pleasure to listen to. Empathy and intelligence. More of Jackie on this show would be great.

[@hazelvision28]

Agreed. She is awesome

[@Omegaman18]

Much better than she was on Around The Horn. She didn’t fit in well with the shove my opinion down your throat aspect of the show.

[@johnnyboi116]

For real replace her with Doris would b a blessing

[@Raulthomas30]

Yea...she’s great on how she patronised Scottie by calling him a “27 year old kid.”

[@jselect7502]

She states facts with out emotion. SAS and Max just ramble. She makes them look bad. She has a real good understanding of basketball from that era.

[@kford6643]

Jackie Mac literally made more sense than anyone else on First Take in a long time. Props to her 💯

[@Mattraction513]

Because she's a real reporter

[@gawainfraites7994]

Exactly Ford. She makes so much sense.

[@DragoonBG]

She put herself into his shoes, and properly (as far as she can), explained what he might have went through. The world would be a much better place if more people were that understanding. You don't have to agree with his decision, but many a folks situation like that one might have acted the same. Side note, obviously people are different, so it is impossible and the show is looking for idividuals with strong point of view and standing of things, whic in turn attracts more viewership.

[@arsonhakobyan]

@@Mattraction513 Nah, I prefer Hannah Storm. She doesn't come off as a male hater to me.

[@arsonhakobyan]

@@DragoonBG You make sense there, but what's interesting to note, is that back during her "Around The Horn" days, she was dogging Scottie by far the worst of anyone on the panel, about refusing to come in on the play called for Kukoc. Not saying she's done a 180, but closer to a 180 than a 90. I wonder what's changed?

[@afterkwiss]

Michael Jordan: "Scottie was the best teammate I've ever had" The rest happened while winning 6 championships. That's all we need to know.

[@migodropped-u7669]

Scottie was just tired of the blatant disrespect SIMPLE

[@td163]

Exactly

[@KGR4NT]

Thank you

[@wainaoofficiel2777]

FACTS👍

[@kford6643]

💯. Jackie tried to make that point but it was ignored . Unbelievable that SAS who has the biggest EGO on TV couldn’t get that. SMH .

[@pooppoop4141]

Navistar7.3l Powerstroke7.3l bruh with that hairline his head would’ve been mistaken for a basketball lolll

[@puma12345ace]

Scottie is just honest. I can appreciate that.

[@td163]

Because you are a real person with objectivity. Many people are just judgemental which stunts maturity IMO

[@marimartell3498]

Exactly.

[@larrymays4244]

He’s a pouty baby

[@timduncan7049]

@gerizzyYMcrew so u should say that to mj also

[@timduncan7049]

@gerizzyYMcrew then shut up

[@plutoburn]

I feel like Scottie never gotten over his underpaid contract, so he continued to feel underappreciated. Had the management being made aware of his sentiment, and smooth it out with Scottie, make him feel like he was being treated appropriately for the value he brings to the team. I think he would have reciprocate and abide the team first decision to inbound the last play.

[@KtotheG]

Man, don't make excuses for him. He's a coward. That's why I never over-appreciated Scottie like so many Jordan haters do.

[@deerloversheridan3038]

I remember being a youngster reading a SI story and that he had taken his luxury car in for repair. He was whining like a little kid because the gave him a HONDA for a loaner.

[@clarencewalder2985]

Underpaid contract yes I agree beside he needed money to support his 9 kids with 4 or 5 baby mamas

[@wadecountybabe]

They weren't gonna budge, they knew all that and still didnt make any attempt to restructure his contract because they warned him from day 1 not to sign it.

[@MarlonDeanMusicChannel]

@@clarencewalder2985 Come on man, it's not like he was playing for peanuts. He was earning more than enough money to support his kids. A lot of people make much less money than he did and manage to maintain their big families.

[@garrickbrown336]

Steven A: I can’t forgive Scottie Pippen for what he did (over 20 years ago) sitting out on his teammates with the surgery and what not... Steven A: Dak Prescott is underpaid he should sit out the whole year

[@claypearson8380]

Garrick Brown Exactly

[@colinjones8265]

😂

[@garrickbrown336]

Just saying....That’s why I’m not a fan of SCREAMING A. Smith, ESPN only like him because he’s loud and animated. He has a few good takes from time to time, but most of his takes are like his UFC punching skills, they suck! And honestly a lot of these dudes contradict themselves, that’s mainly why I watch, to catch there contradictions 😂

[@soultrain58]

Exactly. . . 🤫

[@slicktalker9355]

He is ESPN's puppet they tell him which side to take on any given topic ..

[@thatsgame4200]

They don't mention what Scottie did when Jordan was gone, smh at least give the man his props, third in mvp race in 94 and made 2 ALL-NBA FIRST TEAMS when jordan was gone!

[@Justin683]

THAT'S GAME they were riding the momentum from the year before. Once the 2nd year came around and Scottie started to set the culture the bulls were barely over 500. Then Jordan comes and saves em

[@Judevrgt]

Scottie was the best player in the league then

[@eazyduzit-tr3nx]

George Taylor No he wasn’t. Lol I can tell y’all fools never seen those Bulls play back then. Even Pippen said they won by committee not bc he was THE man.

[@eazyduzit-tr3nx]

THAT'S GAME They did talk about him leading the Bulls though. What more do you want? I feel like you’ve been lead on about that year. Y’all listen to too much Shannon and Nick Wright for real. Out here using no context then glossing over what he didn’t do in 95.

[@dannymyte1]

@@Judevrgt LOL ...no he wasn't. Hakeem, Shaq, David Robinson, Karl Malone, John Stockton, Patrick Ewing, Charles Barkley, Mitch Richmond, Clyde Drexler, Alonzo Morning, & Reggie Miller were all better than Pippen. Heck even Jamal Mashburn who averaged 24 PPG that year was better than Pippen

[@dennylam269]

I don’t have any issues with them high lighting Pippen’s moments of shortcomings and Jerry Krause’s. But I have an issue of with the documentary not devoting more time on the the positive impact of Scottie, Horace Grant and Jerry Krause.

[@chicago773williams5]

Nobody cares about them bums

[@jlbolinder]

Are you serious? Almost every episode has them winning a different championship. The whole thing is about how great every part of that team was. They are telling the story. Its not like theres an anti-pip agenda. Lol. There are "moments of shortcomings"...but **spoiler alert*** this story ends up pretty good for all of those guys. Its not easy to make a docu-series I'm sure...but this has been done very well.

[@incipidsigninsetup]

Not true. They highlighted both. The focus is Jordan first and the rest of the team 2nd. Scottie got a bio cut in the documentary and Jery Krause also got spotlighted for several minutes with multiple references to his choices throughout, all of which were key to winning a championship.

[@dennylam269]

incipidsigninsetup My issue is that Rodman got an entire episode. Krause, Pippen and Horace’s accomplishments and growths deserves at least an episode.

[@allsystemsgo8678]

I'd agree they haven't spent much time on Horace Grant, other then Jordan calling him a snitch

[@Sweatyhunk]

i think they’re misinterpreting scottie when he said he’d do it again. I think he just meant that he learned valuable lessons from it and he thinks it was an important moment in his career that helped him grow in the long run. they’re talking about it like he’s saying it was the correct decision and that he didn’t do anything wrong.

[@mysterion5136]

Right. He meant that he wouldn't change the past. He misspoke a little bit there

[@kford6643]

Exactly, that’s how I took it.

[@bikingchupei2447]

that is weird, cause even the director of this doc(Jalen & Jacoby podcast) said he was shocked when scottie said he would do it again, and he had thoughts if he wanted to leave this clip in the doc.

[@zeaferjones1404]

Maybe I'm not as big of a team guy that I thought but I was a wrestler and I'm a big UFC fan. So when a guy doesn't want to go out for a play because this random foreign guy who gets randomly paid more then him is going to get the last shot its understandable.

[@ramonstvil]

samer4 eh, no

[@BiGameJamesX]

Kyrie did it and y’all said “he needed to get away from Lebron” but Scottie does and nobodies defending him

[@worldtree2027]

If we’re being honest, it’s better there wasn’t much coverage compared to today. Because they’d be mad at Pippen like they were at Kyrie and start bashing every small thing that occurs outside of basketball.

[@rodolfo7333]

@@worldtree2027 bro you're totally right.. the players of the past would be in soo much trouble due to social media

[@bennyubub1582]

Jimmy James how do you know if nobody’s defending him? What if they did back in the day ? And Kyrie gets def hate too. Who knows what people are gonna say over 20 years from now?

[@FireAngelChris]

Lol facts,show their bias and hypocrisy.

[@FireAngelChris]

World Tree202 I said it often they should be thankful they don’t play in this era

[@Dec4AllTimeAlways]

The guy looking really better after a few episodes? Toni Kukoč 🇭🇷! Yeah, the most underrated player on those Bulls teams. I like how comfortable he looks sitting on that chair. The guy hit big shots that we often overlook.

[@nyilenda25]

I honestly thought that Scottie said that he would do it again because of the lesson he learnt from that incident.

[@WinedandDined27]

nah he didnt.

[@KenpoKid77]

Nah, he said he realized it was a selfish decision on his part. He explained his mindset at the time, how it was always more about his beef with management than Kukoc, but still.

[@NoelG314]

u cant live with regrets. thats exactly how we should look at life. i fucked up. i learned from it. i wouldn't change it either.

[@NoelG314]

u cant live with regrets. thats exactly how we should look at life. i fucked up. i learned from it. i wouldn't change it either.

[@davidconejr4206]

@@KenpoKid77 FACTS

[@amuck123]

Scottie Pippen took a back seat to MJ, became the man when MJ left to play baseball, and then had his moment to shine against the Knicks taken away from him. Phil took that away from him and gave it to Kukoc. Scottie was underpaid, and led the team in every statistical category that year. He did exactly what most of us would have done in that same situation. Why is he constantly being dumped on to make Jordan look better. They don't win without Scottie Pippen. MJ isn't the goat without Scottie Pippen, and that's why he gets all of the hate.

[@marwil8717]

What u want mj to do. Mj always acknowledge their is no mj without scottie. He said so in 96,98 and his hall of fame speech. Which other other u know complemented their teammates that much

[@deshawndodd7883]

Kukoc Hit All The Game Winning Shots That Year

[@rockjm9876543210]

If you quit on your team by not going in then that shows how selfish you are as a player. You're better off changing the play and demanding the ball instead of quitting on your team like that.

[@Jason5818UI]

MJ was a dominant force since his rookie season ...it took pippen years to develop into the NBA allstar he was and that was because of MJ...93-94 was a great team still lost against the Knicks ..Pippens leadership wasn't enough...yeah MJ didn't win championships without pippen but Pippen didn't win championships with MJ either

[@channeljan8529]

People forget that after MJ left to play baseball, the media started saying how Pippen wasn't good enough and the Bulls would miss the playoffs if he was the leader. But instead he got them 55 wins and pushed the Knicks to 7 games. Remember the Bulls went to 7 games against the Knicks in 92 even WITH MJ. But remember MJ played poorly against New York in 93 where they also were down 0-2 to start. But MJ had Pippen to help him out. Who was Pippen's Pippen on that 94 team? Pete Myers? Toni Kukoc? It doesn't compare.

[@lukewilliam3601]

Jackie Mac killed it today.

[@kford6643]

Luke Taylor 💯

[@shaynelee487]

Luke, I couldn't agree with you more!!! She absolutely killed it!! I was in awe of the picture she painted from Pippen's perspective.

[@ronstoppable5659]

First Take really needs its own KZbin Channel, because to be honest Stephen A. is the only reason I’m even subscribed to ESPN

[@timurjack8773]

Toni Kukoc was a Europe legend with Euroleague championships.

[@dannydub22]

So was nikola mirotic? And?

[@MrMvpron22]

@DoWhatIWant had a better shot

[@ebejaayyoungmoney8416]

MrMvpron22 but Kukoc hit the shot I’m taking Kukoc over Scottie with an last second shot Toni proved time and time again that Season in particular that he can hit the shot in clutch moments don’t get me wrong Scottie was a animal but u gotta play your role at the end of the day💯

[@Sticktothemodels]

Tf is Jackie talking about? Right After that incident the documentary praised Scottie for pushing NY to 7 games and dunking on Ewing*, etc. plus he had a whole episode dedicated to him. Just spouting nonsense

[@austinmiller1625]

@@daddyfamlittle6262 oh boy is this comment wrong in multiple ways.

[@daddyfamlittle6262]

@carlson mujem Are you sipping on stupid?? Pippen was never part of a 30 win team for those two years without Jordan genius!!

[@iamyouyouareme9905]

Mike said I never won any championships without Scottie Pippen. Whatever y'all say don't matter. Lol

[@MarlonDeanMusicChannel]

Yes, he said that. However, he would do it with any other good player anyways.

[@Jrock420blam]

@@MarlonDeanMusicChannel then why didn't he?

[@allsystemsgo8678]

@@Jrock420blam Ridiculous statement.

[@allsystemsgo8678]

Sooo that excuses him quitting on his team because Jordan said that he wouldn't won without him?!

[@Jrock420blam]

@@allsystemsgo8678 sounds like Phil quit on him first

[@leroyrodgers6089]

They didn’t show Scotties defense? You didn’t watch the part where he locked up Magic?

[@davidgutierrez4606]

Doesnt fit into the media's narrative. We all know how great he was on defense and distributing the ball

[@jarjarbinks4744]

David Gutierrez “Ok” defense???? JUST OKAY???? WHAT DRUGS ARE YOU ON...

[@drizzejohnson5767]

Leroy Rodgers I was just about to say this

[@larrymays4244]

Magic was already old though

[@davidgutierrez4606]

@@jarjarbinks4744 on*

[@Dec4AllTimeAlways]

This doc is showing different ways of being SELFISH. MJ was selfish because he wanted to win so badly. Pippen was the less selfish player but seemed way more selfish for his own personal gain.

[@AQUAPHREESH193]

Yeah having TWO wheelchair confined family members in a small azz poor house might make somebody "selfish" for money just putting that out there mr clippers fan lol he couldn't afford to go back to being broke.

[@mbrown5656]

AQUAPHREESH193 so already having 20 million at that time is being broke?

[@AQUAPHREESH193]

M Brown I’m not saying that’s broke but people have been knocking him for signing that contract. Yeah it was FAR from perfect, but I believe the context I provided played a role in his decision to sign.

[@Dec4AllTimeAlways]

I know Rachel Nichols is going to defend Scottie Pippen because they work together on The Jump and that's fine. But I knew Scottie was going to look really bad once his 1994 ECF Game 3 moment came up and it did.

[@dadi5458]

Pip been going 1st team all defensive stroke on Rachel lol

[@greennimbus2519]

It is bad. Even Jordan gave Paxon the ball for shots and Pippen shluldve realized they were probably eyeing Pippen for the Last shot. Team wise it messed with them mentally which led to them losing the series.

[@ronaldwilliams6244]

Green Nimbus25 exactly and Phil drew that up too

[@uknowwhoib9676]

@@greennimbus2519 They were down 2 games to 1 after they won that game and lost in game 7. How could that moment cause them to lose the series. Pay attention to detail buddy. It was a rallying point and helped the team get back in the series. The bulls actually won the next game and game 6. They likely lose to Houston in the finals if they get past Knicks.

[@G_Chain]

Scottie was wrong... BUT u gotta remember he spent the last few years living in MJ’s shadow... that season he was MVP contender & it was his time/turn to take these game winning shots! He reacted wrongly but I feel for him man! Man’s a certified Don 👑

[@wainaoofficiel2777]

I'm with you on that!!👌

[@eazyduzit-tr3nx]

Did y’all even watch those Bulls? He wasn’t clutch at all, he never was which even he alluded to. The reason why Phil made the call for Kukoc is bc Pippen never showed he had that when he had the opportunities before that.

[@christiansoldier77]

G Chain Scottie didnt live in Jordan's Shadow . He was in Jordan's spotlight. Without Jordan no one would know who he was

[@G_Chain]

eazyduzit5150 disagree.. kukoc had a hot hand so phil went with him! Bit like when he told MJ to pass the ball to Paxson a few years earlier! MJ reacted the right way & done it.. Scottie made a mistake & reacted the wrong way! My point was to try & provide some context & sympathy as to why he didn’t

[@G_Chain]

Christian Soldier na they made eachother better imo! Before Scottie MJ didn’t win any rings! Pippen the perfect number2.. just not a number1! As shown by this

[@ObiSain]

Stephen A can’t guard Scottie anyway

[@AK-fu1ge]

lmfaooo

[@usoboii1896]

First of all, you're wrong and here's why

[@mumugobbi]

“He too little!”

[@ctrey8395]

@@usoboii1896 that's it

[@nkwakutoure]

Phil was lucky. Pete Carroll did the same thing with BeastMode and it backfired.

[@zeaferjones1404]

@Brett Kozlak They were pass heavy which is why they weren't fooled for a second when Russell Wilson threw the ball. That was classic over coach worrying about other downs instead of the one you are on. The Pats out smarted the Seahawks because the Pats were counting on them overcoaching.

[@FranciscoMartinez-mb5vi]

They having sympathy for Scottie but don’t care how the series portrays Isiah

[@DreMurf313]

Exactly👏👏👏 They've vilified Isiah Thomas & the Detroit Pistons for over 30 years- But that's OK. I remember that game where Scottie sat out the last play. I was laughing at him for being childish. ESPECIALLY WHEN TONI KUKOC MADE THAT LAST SECOND SHOT!!

[@younglove3362]

Lol too bad they're both bitter about this. They both suffer from this. I honestly don't know whose situation's worse.

[@bobjones8197]

They be sucking jordan

[@Jon155mt]

IT was a well known pos. There's a reason why the majority of the dream team didn't like him back then.

[@zeaferjones1404]

That's because its a documentary about the Bulls and Isiah was their main villain. In the documentary about Bill Lambert Isiah was seen as a good team mate to have.

[@fakeaccount6211]

She’s explain empathy perfectly, and SAS still not trying to hear it smh

[@S0ulinth3machin3]

naw, he didn't disagree with her.

[@kungfufemafam9216]

if Mj did that he would be 100%supportive. Fn Joke

[@MDHDH-iy7nm]

truth

[@KeepMovingForwardAlways983]

But Jordan passed the shot Up in the big moments before.

[@princezardos4823]

@@KeepMovingForwardAlways983 because he's been the go to guys a million times already not a biggie for a single play.

[@KeepMovingForwardAlways983]

Prince Zardos Understand but it has not been one time since he’s done that he under stood that it took more then him and in that moment. Scottie in my opinion felt it was his time at that particular moment against that particular team, that constantly owned him up into that series. I don’t know about you I watched at least 50 something bulls games that year MJ was gone and kukoc was balling he easily started to look like an emerging Luca that year. He hit at least 4 game winners so in any sport you simulate pressure situations as much as possible even MJ referenced this many times during his time in the league and as I know when we had to practice two minutes drills at the end of practice for football to get our body, adrenaline and lacked acid build up during a fight or flight situation. So if tony had shown that more then once I would have given him the ball as well, because he’s done it it’s in his muscle memory, his body can function during the pressure. Scottie in that situation made it about him and I have seen that before in games dudes literally gave up on us because things didn’t go their way. I didn’t respect that then nor do I now but I get why Scottie felt slighted but in that situation gotta take your ego out of it. I’m pretty sure Phil wanted to give it to him and I’m sure the knicks figured he would get the ball until they saw he wasn’t in the game which probably threw them off even more on defense. Also when it comes to winning every single play is a biggie because it takes a single play that can lead to a debacle or momentum swing.

[@Jason5818UI]

@@KeepMovingForwardAlways983 in favor of winning

[@MikeFromBensonhurst]

There’s no defending Scottie especially considering Kukoc had hit a bunch of clutch shots in that year . Phil didn’t just run that play out of the blue .

[@robinkulbay]

erikd131 They won the game though, didn’t they?

[@robinkulbay]

erikd131 Yeah, but if the coach truly feels that another player should take the shot, especially one that hit several game winners that same season, then I would say he’s justified in rationalizing that way. No player on that Bulls squad was bigger than the game. And as much as I like Pippen who I still think is an underrated player, Phil is the Zen Master for a reason.

[@juujuubees379]

Pippen also hit a bunch of last second shots that year, Phil was way wrong!

[@jackwhite3107]

Pip is a role player never one of the alphas of the league

[@RatoyaBanks]

Luckily Kukoc made the shot but I can definitely see how Scottie felt like it was a slap in the face

[@kingdre23]

Nah that ain't luck toni been making those shots throughout that season

[@bred1s928]

Scottie was 3rd in the mvp race that year when Jordan was out but the documentary don’t wanna show that tho

[@vinnymash4833]

Bred 1s 3rd place wins you what again

[@sakhilemahloele2204]

Can I have your number ?

[@Independent365]

Go ahead Scottie!! Dude was the star on the team and in the heat of the moment his ego got the best of him. It happens. He apologized afterwards and moved on. It all worked out so why regret?

[@AwesomeMusic2011]

Slow news days lately

[@zeaferjones1404]

What bothers me is that Stephen A defended TO for a career of doing stuff like this. Also Max is always blabbing about being on the right side of history but defends Toni Kucoc getting paid more that Scottie Pippen for no reason.

[@AwesomeMusic2011]

@@zeaferjones1404 no one forced Pippen to sign on the dotted line. He got bad business advice and took security over future earning potential. Pippen was criminally underpaid, but that was also partially his own fault.

[@jonathanyoung2243]

Pip comes from my home town Hamburg. If you know him personally like I do you know and understand why he wouldn't change nothing 💯

[@deonnadyson]

How is he in person?

[@jonathanyoung2243]

@@deonnadyson he is very down to earth. Him and his brother Billy works on his farm by the high school most of the time he's home. He just lost a brother to cancer like 3 or 4 months ago. He has another brother who is fighting cancer as well now. His family are great people come from nothing. If he give his word on something he stands on it if it's right or wrong. Just how most people are raised in Hamburg.

[@aljohntabion2751]

As much as I love Scottie.. ya he was wrong for that one. toni is a way more clutch shooter from long range than Scottie and a win is a win. But u can tell the team was in disarray without MJ.

[@sosteezy8120]

MJ stops teammates from eating but he’s protected. That makes so much sense-

[@mrwakeupjacob4647]

Alot of players ate because of mj some of them ate and forgot who fed them

[@sosteezy8120]

Brother in sweden once again someone’s protecting him and completely ignoring the fact he told people not to eat because they didn’t have a good game

[@williamjones813]

As a grown man if u allow another man to stop u from eating ur food u dont deserve to eat. not to mention a 6' 10 grown man like ho grant is

[@sphillips2426]

@@williamjones813 💯 if u can't stand up for yourself as a grown man thats on u

[@Daniel-rd2wh]

william jones He stood up for himself. Quit tryna defend his actions, he was toxic

[@MD-uf5mw]

In Scotties eyes that was his moment to be the man instead of the sidekick. Then threw a temper tantrum when Phil denied him of that.

[@chill5709]

Sounds soft and weak too me .. I thought players back then were mentally tough

[@jalheeljalhe5799]

@@chill5709 It is not softness, Scottie showed chacracter and boldness on this last play.

[@Jslg11]

@@chill5709 chill

[@Dec4AllTimeAlways]

The Last Dance also won't cover when Scottie called Charles Barkley lazy and fat after Scottie left Houston. Scottie was basically doing stuff years before Kobe called Shaq lazy and fat.

[@BMoney04]

Pat4Clippers because this is about the 97-98 Bulls team... This doc has nothing to do about when Pip played for the Rockets

[@Portknocks]

Jackie M spitting facts as usual.

[@imarketsocial]

Imagine he said "I would do it again" because his team actually won the game. Change his decision....different result 🤷🏿‍♂️

[@russelturner5771]

Yeah! I was kinda struck by that response myself. I get why he felt disrespected but remember Jordan was also underpaid by the Bulls when he played even though he was a worldwide phenomenon. I don't think he would've even considered that option given the stakes at that moment because there were times Jordan deferred to his teammates like Paxson or Kerr taking the last shot because the play made sense, most likely Jordan would have made the shot but that besides the point. Basketball is a team sport, I would have thought that looking back at that moment after all these years Pippen's perspective would have changed and his response would have been different after seeing the bigger picture that winning is the main goal but oh well.

[@dominiqueandre7750]

Jackie is right on this one... Scotty was not treated right.... i can't imagine Harden - KD - Kyrie even Kawie being treated this way being the most important piece on their team and not getting paid specially these days

[@titans360ify]

Well scottie wasnt the best lol

[@titans360ify]

Nor the most important

[@allsystemsgo8678]

Please tell me when a owner renogiated a contract so he would have to pay millions more to a player, lol. Give me one example.

[@FinkNimrod]

The way each person held their composure in this debate should be the new standard for every argument. Great discussion.

[@dknight9997]

This is the media Putting Scottie down to make Jordan seem greater

[@zubeirjamaa]

dame Knight Just like how they put everyone down to make LeBum seen greater

[@MrWolfy08]

Nah, this is media trying to make some drama because they dont have nothing to talk

[@MDHDH-iy7nm]

@@MrWolfy08 same thing lol

[@kapitalmurda545]

Dam Scottie made Ewing look bad on that dunk 😔

[@uknowwhoib9676]

Ewing was a beast too. One of the top 6 best centers to play the game probably. Wilt, Shaq, Russell, Hakeem, David Robinson, Ewing.

[@dwaynegibson6353]

Kareem

[@devon_dahlia125]

Well how important is this lady? SAS literally shuts up? I need her to come back tomorrow and the day after 😂

[@kudabeen]

Jackie Mac is an OG and legend

[@TheKingofKings2272]

😂😂😂

[@kweefsweat5628]

Everyone shuts up and let's her talk she the OG

[@kford6643]

She literally made more sense than anyone on First Take in a long time.

[@christopherjasondiaz1162]

Pippen my idol. Proud fan here

[@td163]

Me as well. He was as real as MJ when it came to winning but just not as celebrated

[@johnbrown9410]

Scottie pippen is one of my favorite players all time.....while I'll never condone the act, I think we should remember how great scottie was. I wouldn't want to be remembered for the worst things I did in my younger years......luckily it was recorded on national television. I'll take all the great things he accomplished and give him a pass for his worst transgression. But what a great team they were!!!! I miss THAT kind of basketball

[@deansnipah2895]

I like Jackie's points. Its good to have someone knowledgeable on the show to break the monotony

[@jaayeee24]

I’m with Scottie! Underpay me and under appreciated me after I’ve payed my dues and I’m going to be salty🧂and might act out.

[@jaayeee24]

KeepingUp WithTheAncestors I’m fine with that. The key word is “portrayed” which means it’s not the full story. If you’re a real fan you know how valuable Scottie was and how unfairly he was treated. Just remember...Jordan played for years before Scottie arrived...and won nothing!

[@marwil8717]

@@jaayeee24 wrong. Doug Collins took over the team. Bulls drafted pippen and Grant who both came off the bench.

[@halamadrid6733]

They couldn't even give him a new contract, or offer him a the same deal with a big sign on bonus so it wouldn't effect the Salary cap

[@SwaggerLikeUz]

Scottie doesn't have any regrets, cause when the Bull's needed Him on the court. He delivered! I seen all those games on WGN, TNT, NBC, etc as it happened. In the end I seen the best NBA team ever during those 90's runs. I'm proud of Pip rather, not ashamed looking back at anything He did. I would of did tha same thing lol, screw Krause & Jerry.

[@blackurustrikes2328]

This Scottie Pippen bashing is crazy. Scottie had a valiant overall 1994 series against the Knicks and was a BAD Hugh Hollins call away from possibly leading the Bulls to the Finals WITHOUT Mike. And for many years he was grossly UNDERPAID in a league that was tearing up and redoing contracts all over the league for players Scottie regularly BEAT on the court. Scottie Pippen is arguably the least understood and appreciated NBA star ever.

[@marwil8717]

Wrong the bulls that year got knocked out in the ecsf in 7 games.

[@blackurustrikes2328]

@@marwil8717 - I said they could "possibly" have made it to the Finals. I know that was the semi finals. But I said possibly they would have beaten the team that DID make it to the Finals. And if they could beat the Knicks you gotta figure they would have had a good chance to beat the Pacers, whom the Knicks beat to get to the Finals.

[@theunholytrinity540]

IN THE REAL WORLD WHAT PIPPEN DID IS A NATURAL THING.. THAT HIS LIMELIGHT..THAT HIS MOMENT TO SHINE!

[@cndungu]

She's such a fresh breath of air with her reasoning!

[@kford6643]

Charles Ndung'u extremely on point. Can’t understand how Pippen handled that level of disrespect as well as he did. Smh

[@makavelli2pac]

I agree with Jackie..NO ONE MENTIONS the point of view of Pippen, he is the man on the team (led the team in 5 diff categories) and Phil calls the last play for Kukoc and not Scottie...that is straight disrespect and Phil would never do that to Jordan...in all of Scottie's highlights how many times has he taken the last shot?....I don't think I have ever seen it...I understand why he didn't go back in.

[@joeldriver5356]

I though it was interesting that Pippen stated that while he apologized he flat out said he would probably do it again if he was put in the same situation. Clearly he isn't really sorry and doesn't regret it. With all due respect to Pippen I watched 100s of bulls games and I don't remember him making many last second shots to win games and he wasn't really a great shooter. Obviously Phil made the right choice because Kukoc made it. I think Pip should have owned up better than this.

[@mysterion5136]

I think he meant to say that he wouldn't change his decision, because he learned and grew from it. He just misspoke in that clip

[@jalheeljalhe5799]

When the last shot fall in MJ hands who in the team needs to prove he is clutch? This was an opportunity because MJ was retired.

[@Dec4AllTimeAlways]

*The* *Last* *Dance* *MVPs* Episode 1 - Michael Jordan Episode 2 - Michael Jordan Episode 3 - Dennis Rodman Episode 4 - Carmen Electra Episode 5 - Kobe Bryant Episode 6 - John Michael Wozniak Episode 7 - Michael Jordan Episode 8 - James Jordan's spirit

[@Dec4AllTimeAlways]

It's hard to defend Scottie. And he's probably one of the greatest defenders and he can't even defend himself here. The 🤦🏻‍♂️ moment is when he admitted he would do it all over again. WHUT?

[@JoseGarcia-ni2lq]

Pat4Clippers lol exactly

[@theknightsdark9598]

What would have MJ done in Pippens shoes 🤣

[@cynthiamiller6881]

Jackie Mac your perspectives are so refreshing. The best female sport analyst. Teach these grown men something. Girl power.

[@biggestbullsfan8569]

When did Jackie become Scottie Pippen’s lawyer?

[@petermendez5184]

BiggestBullsFan She sure did do a great job! She always brings her A Game!!

[@zeaferjones1404]

When did Stephen A and Max become Scottie Pippen haters? Stephen A is sure TO's lawyer when he has had a career of doing stuff like this.

[@Dec4AllTimeAlways]

I knew even before the docuseries was going to air and even after everyone felt sorry for Scottie after Episode 2 that Scottie was not going to look good. I watched Scottie's entire prime and all those things did happen.

[@Dec4AllTimeAlways]

It's not an unfortunate portrayal, Jackie. It's an *accurate* portrayal. If this is a documentary that's trying to be truthful to what happened, we can't just sweep Pip's lowlights under the rug and forget about them.

[@sultanabran1]

scottie said he was sorry. they need to focus on that. everyone makes mistakes and that mistake was no different to any mistake any of us makes, except we're not living in the public light on a basketball court.

[@SlimKim3]

The episodes are giving Scottie a "excessively" bad rep

[@gerardolopez4318]

Scottie is giving himself a "excessively" bad rep

[@TheOneKeyToLife]

What? It’s his own fault

[@michaelvick4588]

Scottie gave it to himself. All they’re doing is covering what happened during these title runs and Scottie often makes selfish decisions. It is what it is. He has to live with that.

[@eshan4093]

I dnt knw which docuseries u were watching.. bt one thing i gt frm the last dance is tht without scottie, michael wouldnt have won 6 and vice versa.. scottie pippen was one of the best players in the game.. "when they speak of michael jordan, they shoud speak of scottie pippen".. quoted by the man himself.. and even during mj's hof speech , the very first person tht mj thanked was pippen..

[@Tyreus1]

the Lady brought empathy to the table and shared it, suddenly the frenzy commentator realized other people actually know stuff he doesn't and humbled down. So glad to see it with my own eyes.

[@gerardolopez4318]

love Scottie but in reality Kukoc hit more game winners in his rookie year than Pippen had in his whole career.

[@mysterion5136]

And this is what the coach was thinking. Get the ball in the hands of the guy who hit six game winners that year.

[@mjmcalister]

Jackie Mac is truly one of the best in the biz. She really knows her stuff. You can tell how much Max and Steven A respect and admire her. Clearly someone they enjoy working with

[@johnny6610]

Lebron fans say Jordan played against plumbers but then defend Scottie to make Jordan look less lol

[@worldtree2027]

Pippen is a T5 Small Forward, hes better than a lot of other players. But I hate to see Jordan fans say Kyrie Irving is better than a whole Hall of Fame Small Forward, makes no sense whatsoever. However, I don’t wanna hear anything about plumbers because today’s players are rappers, models, bloggers and everything but dedicated (a lot).

[@youngblood4127]

@@worldtree2027 Kyrie is not better than Pippen but D Wade is.

[@markmittens]

@@youngblood4127 you look at basketball as scoring Wade does not offer all the things Scottie does. I feel the same way about kawhi early in his career people just said he's not that good or doesn't score enough saying things like KD who said Paul George is better. I don't know what some people see when they watch basketball

[@worldtree2027]

Young Blood That’s debatable, I wouldn’t personally say that but you’d definitely have a case. Pippen’s problem was limited touches and usage due to being on a team w/ Jordan. But given the same amount of opportunities Pippen can do much more on both ends. However Wade was really good and MVP caliber for a couple of seasons which is hard to do.

[@dannyllerenatv8635]

Pippen is overrated and underrated at the same time. He is overrated by people who think LBJ is the GOAT and underrated by people who worship MJ. Pippen is not as good as a prime D-Wade, but he is as great as you can ask a second fiddle to be. Also to be fair, pippen going father than MJ without him is only a half truth. The 93-94 bulls heavily retooled and there were other players on that team breaking out looking for a payday. The portland trailblazers of the late 90s early 2000s are one of the most talented teams on paper that never won a chip. They were just as talented and loaded as the Lakers, Spurs and Kings were at that time, but that team was dumb as bricks IQ wise and were riddled with conduct problems. Pippen was also playing an Andre Iguodala role on that team since he was a shell of himself at that point. Pippen started declining around 96-97.

[@parawill7074]

While watching that Knicks game, I 100% agreed with Scottie being pissed.....BUT, you can't be a player on a team that decides to quit during the game. Phil told MJ that he needed to change his game and get his teammates involved and what did MJ do? Did he run to management to get Phil fired? No. Did he throw Phil under the bus to the media? No. Did he become a cancer on the team and challenge Phil's authority? No. MJ got in line and began to get his teammates involved more and not think about getting his all the time. Scottie had the correct emotions, but didn't have the discipline to compartmentalize them in that moment and follow Phil's play. He blew it back then and he blew again decades later in the documentary by stating that he wouldn't have changed anything. The incident was a stain, but the Hall of Famer Scottie Pippen took a massive hit to his legacy due to his own words. He can't separate his emotions from being a professional. People tried to come at MJ for calling him selfish over the surgery and Scottie validated it by saying he wouldn't change the WORST moment of his career. It was so ironic to see Toni nail that shot and for Scottie to realize how was wrong he was in that moment. Of course he cried in the locker room because he fully expected for Toni to miss. He needed that miss to validate his horrible decision and it was great to see Toni take it away and make him OWN it. Toni making that shot still haunts Scottie to this day.

[@JonesVison31]

She's​ right Scottie should have gotten the rock idc he deserved it he worked for it and had the skill

[@DZ-lx4iu]

They've shown positives about Scottie. It happened just like him sitting out with a migraine. Things happen; you live and learn

[@brianrolle3117]

This was also one of the biggest mistakes he made. I remember watching that game and was like why isn’t he on the floor until they said that he didn’t want to come on the court because he wasn’t gonna get the last shot. The wounds are mostly self inflicted and I have no sympathy for Scottie.

[@eddiewilson3724]

i could have swore he said back right after it happened that he felt disrespected by phil because they had him taking the ball out, he didnt care that he wasnt getting the last shot, i may be wrong but i swear he said that the day after that game.

[@donnamorgan1161]

Jackie is cool, pro indeed. Pippen like most of us would be the same way as Scottie was under the circumstances.

[@kford6643]

I think it’s hilarious that MJ is still mad that the Pistons bullied the Bulls when he himself bullied his own team. MJ made his own team tougher and the Pistons made his Bulls tougher.

[@coachcarter8238]

What?

[@makeaday13]

I love what she said 👍🏻👍🏻💪 Scottie Pippen did so much for the Bulls and was a beast 🔥🔥

[@Dec4AllTimeAlways]

Michael Jordan even said it himself. That 1.8 seconds moment will come back to haunt Scottie Pippen over and over. You don't quit on your team like that. And it really wasn't the only time. He demanded trades and delayed surgery.

[@truthbetold4738]

Pat4Clippers and didn’t quit on his team, 2 years load management?

[@SecondLineNews]

Yes, to everything she said about Pippen's potential state of mind during the last seconds of that game.

[@peterstark4562]

I kinda understand where pippen was coming from. He believed that he's the best player in the team and thought his coach should stand by him by letting him take the game winning shot. He got upset bec he felt Phil didnt trust his clutchness and instead trusted Kukoc in clutch situations. We saw how many times Kukoc hit the game winner in that season on which Phil designed for him. And remember Scottie and MJ didnt like Kukoc's ariival with the Bulls bec he was Krause's new darling. But Pippen should've waited til the game ended and address his issue with Phil in the locker room.

[@2_2_4_3]

Money , Black Cat, Air Jordan, His Airness, OG23 is the GOAT.

[@SSJRome]

It was all bad from that first contact he signed smh 🤦🏾‍♂️

[@AT-BoxingLife]

I believe he meant that, the decision taken is what made him who he is today. This is the most logical and mature thing to determine. The decisions of your past make you who you are now. A human being is only as good as the experiences they live in a lifetime. If you have never face adversity, made a bad decision, or dealt with grief, what qualifies you to embrace and cherish what you currently have.

[@eldio2124]

Let’s see if Stephen a defends MJ punching Kerr

[@IXIRob_MarleyIXI]

😆🤣

[@fierarualexandru2498]

You know what? Michael Jordan did pass the winning shot to John Paxson and Steve Kerr, he understood winning is everything unlike Pippen who did not understood that

[@chrishandsome4267]

LeBron isn’t even better than Pippen

[@marilynmonroesidepeice5238]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@jjuzimackin8941]

Hunter its too early to be that drunk fam😭

[@user-yn7uz9go5q]

Hunter lay off the percs

[@gokuballer1683]

Pippen>Lebron>>Kobe

[@Dec4AllTimeAlways]

What I didn't expect was how all his teammates felt when Scottie decided to sit out like that. They all were disappointed. How that's NOT Scottie. It was a Twilight Zone moment that Horace described.

[@cristhianramirez9914]

I completely agree with Scottie Pippen’s actions he was in the right.

[@williambullard9244]

Exactly. We all in that situation who were in Pippen place and knew that they skills were starting to make them a MVP caliber player would've wanted to take the last shot. The media carries it on. Pippen apologized.

[@stephenasunnamedsource2943]

Some people are just born different. If you think its ok to quit on your brothers in any moment then i cant rock with you. Sorry bro but we can agree to disagree. Thats unacceptable. Bottom line is the Kukoc was hitting game winners and big shots throughout the year so it wasnt nothing new at all.

[@Dec4AllTimeAlways]

The docuseries isn't trying to portray Scottie into a negative light. They're only reporting what happened. Scottie did sign off on this. Scottie did this to himself. Not the doc.

[@sld1776]

Things you learn: between Jordan, Pippen, and Rodman, The Worm is the better man.

[@ADTVent]

I think scotties decision to sit was a blessing in disguise his sub or replacement made a pinpoint accurate pass to kukoc who then nails the game winner..now maybe scottie wouldnt of made that good of a pass either way..it was just Scottie having a "dam..I thought this was MY team after jordan retired" moment..oh well..it makes for good tv.

[@AT-BoxingLife]

Stephen A, just chill, it was he’s decision and his the one that has to live with it. You can’t judge a person because you don’t know where people are at mentally in their life, you aren’t GOD. With that said I enjoy your show, GOD bless.

[@quietanger]

Don't expect an athlete to always be the bigger person or a good soldier. They are human, thay have emotions, and they never forget.

[@andrefuentes931]

i know ur watching this with ur legs crossed

[@zainhafeez631]

3:09 lmaoooo why is Stephan A’s smile so funny tf

[@jonathan1990]

Scottie felt angry and wasn’t thinking right so that’s why he made that decision even though he said even if he could change it he wouldn’t

[@WinedandDined27]

very good listening

[@brianjackson5732]

Scottie said that he would do nothing different if given a chance for a redo. That's what the problem is, not that he made a mistake. He doubled-down years latter!

[@lancer_0125]

Scottie is the real GOAT

[@Dec4AllTimeAlways]

ESPN may want to defend Scottie but you really can't defend all of his past actions. You can defend his migraine. But quitting on your team? We had Phil, Horace, BJ, Paxson, Kerr, Cartwright, Perdue, and Wennington all say it.

[@jalheeljalhe5799]

But the whole franchise had no respect for him, they wanted to trade him and never re-evaluate his contract.

[@MrAVGNdude]

This reminds me of game 1 of the 2018 finals when Lebron acted like the game was over because he didn’t win in regulation. And he never had that same intensity for the rest of the series.

[@corpyhogan4433]

I agree, however I can understand the frustration. As a professional JR Smith made a mistake he should never make. The cavs needed to steal one game and they were about to do so

[@MrForsar]

MrAVGNdude how? Scottie didn’t get off the bench.

[@blockedbyginobiliheadass8612]

The series was over before it started. Lebron played game 1 like he believed the cavs actually had a chance, but that blunder from jr woke him up from that dream.

[@corpyhogan4433]

BlockedByGinobili Headass exactly, his performance in that game gave me and alot of people the small idea that they at least had a chance, but JR derailed the cavs

[@tipanu6554]

Or maybe Bron was tired .....he did play every dam second of the regulation game

[@zaincasey9203]

The A in Stephen A stands for “Airways”

[@InvestBetter.]

That Scottie didn't take back what he did is a big problem Scottie is burying Scottie in this documentary

[@td163]

Trust me I'm sure he is OK with speaking his truth. I appreciate people who live with no regret

[@lesibanammatli178]

Things that happened in the past make you who you are today

[@topbackpodcast2615]

This doc didn’t really change anything as far as Scotties legacy. He is still a hall of famer and one of the best to ever do it. He just had a couple lapse of judgements during his career, like most basketball players.

[@itainttheshoes]

Pippen is by far the most underpaid superstar in the NBA history

[@SMCandLS]

He made more money playing in the NBA than Jordan did

[@letmegetuhhh3959]

@@SMCandLS that's because he played longer and he made a vast majority of the money after the bulls and then later when the bulls signed him again at 37. In terms of pay during their actual primes pippen was massively underpaid

[@larrymays4244]

Pippen is the most overrated player in nba history

[@jaranarm]

Totally remember that year. The media was saying how the Bulls would only win like 30 games and miss the playoffs with Pippen leading them. Yes he shouldn't have refused that one play, but after everything Pippen went through that year especially with the media saying he wasn't good enough plus the Bulls organization treating him unfairly you can tell it all got to him in that moment.