Stephen Fry on Shamefulness and Shame..of the wrong kind.

[@juffjaff]

He’s a bloody clever bloke, isn’t he?

[@rickb.4168]

Juffacakes David Attenborough or Stephen Fry as the first on your ideal dinner guest list?

[@juffjaff]

@@rickb.4168 That's a tough one!

[@martinw245]

I'd go for Attenborough. He's made a phenomenal contribution to our knowledge and appreciation of the natural world over the years. Especially after watching his latest documentary.. A Life On Our Planet. So profound.

[@rickb.4168]

Martin W yeah, it was a given really.

[@paulies5407]

"Stephen Fry - A stupid person's idea of what an intelligent person is like" - Peter Hitchens

[@krisaaron5771]

"Everything is about sex... except sex. Sex is about power." That sounds like something Oscar Wilde would say. So who DID say it? 'Tubers?

[@gordondawson8576]

Robert Michels Summarizing Freud and all of psychoanalysis most succinctly, Robert Michels (personal communciation) wryly suggested: "Everything is about sex, except sex: sex is about power." Quote from an article written by Robert Alan Glick that was published as part of a collection of articles in 2002 edited Beth Seeng on subject matter of constructing and deconstructing women’s power.

[@krisaaron5771]

@@gordondawson8576 Thank you! Now I need to learn who Robert Michels is...

[@chekymonkey4452]

love it

[@vandy3427]

Hi

[@cassieoz1702]

We too often conflate guilt and shame. Guilt: I did a bad thing. Shame: I am bad. Not the same thing at all. The Christian doctrine of original sin is based on shame and people spending their whole lives attoning for something they've never done. Abhorrent

[@JacksonKnives]

I don't think that's actually a Christian doctrine you're describing...

[@cassieoz1702]

@@JacksonKnives original sin is an Augustine Christian doctrine. The sin of Adam is inherited by all of his descendents. Look it up

[@JacksonKnives]

@@cassieoz1702 I meant the concept of atonement through striving as you described it. Augustine wrote specifically against that attitude in both Pelagian and Manichean teachings.

[@juiliethakur37]

For example, in another Universe, Neil deGrasse Tyson is called Thicc everytime he has used the word Cosmos. Passive aggression to shut up a thinking mind, any thinking mind, is the doom of our species.

[@heliab4112]

"Well, all of us with Y chromosomes." He could have said all of us men, but he went for the other term; So now it's more inclusive. How lovely.

[@JokoCi]

The other way around. But I guess there was not much thought behind your comment.

[@heliab4112]

@@JokoCi Not all people who have penises are men. Some are trans women, for example. But they all have Y chromosomes, and they all pee through the penis. Therefore by using the term he used, he included NB people and trans girls. I suppose you misunderstood and thought that he meant all men have penises? Which isn't true at all but has nothing to do with what he says. I suggest you listen more carefully. Sorry for being patronizing but you're unpleasant to strangers online and you need to open your ears.

[@JokoCi]

@@heliab4112 And far more y chromosome carriers have deficient testosterone receptors and thus do not have a penis and do not produce sperm, are thus not strictly men, then the other way around. Confrontation with reality may be unpleasant to some, but I have to maintain: You. Thought. Not much.

[@JokoCi]

@John Boy First, that is not how you link properly. Second, you need to learn to read properly. I was not talking about absolute numbers (helia was not either), but about relations of numbers. PS. The best estimates for trans anything people is round about .05-.1 % otherwise known as 7.5kk people. Likely a bit more. Where did you get the number 8 from?

[@mauriceedgar8495]

Martians enjoy watching pain and misery inflicted on all terrestrial life.

[@danwillits7954]

Donald Trump was way ahead of Stephen in believing that Shame is totally unnecessary, and only stunts one's growth.

[@Zoomo2697]

Wrong about shame Mr. Fry... "The wicked fear the good, because the good are a constant reproach to their consciences. The ungodly like religion in the same way that they like lions, either dead or behind bars; they fear religion when it breaks loose and begins to challenge their consciences.” ― Fulton J. Sheen, Life of Christ “It is a curious psychological fact that those who make their personal love public, and “dear” one another with saccharine epithets, are very often those who when alone quarrel and fight.” ― Fulton J. Sheen, Three to Get Married

[@yousseF1135]

that's Frank Underwood :D

[@tumenodnuud4101]

He looks unhealthy...

[@carolnorton2551]

His face looks thinner, I hope he is OK.

[@craig2493]

Why does Stephen bother to wear clothes?

[@takiartvision2513]

Shame on you blasters!

[@heliab4112]

"Well, all of us with Y chromosomes." He could have said all of us men, but he went for the other term; So now it's more inclusive. How lovely.