Stereo Width Production Trick For Clarity and Space

[@inthemix]

NOTE: There is a part where I talk about needing to press the "Stereoize" button for the effect to work. I should have clarified that this button needs to be pressed if your source is in MONO. If you already have some stereo width to your sound, this button is not essential. I hope I didn't cause confusion that this button must be pressed before the plugin does anything, I was only referring to MONO sources (Which is what we used in this video, the Rhodes and vocal). What I was referring to is also a common thing I see where a plugin being tweaked in "bypass" mode but the person swears it is making a difference.

[@Mentalolz]

In The Mix cheating the first comment before its uploaded tut tut tut

[@nervz3837]

Oh my god. You ruined my life for a moment. I had to check one of my projects and see if its truth...

[@inthemix]

Nervz many apologies,I was only thinking about MONO and was very single tracked in my thinking

[@nervz3837]

All ok :)

[@mayankpant274]

Please do a full start to finish tutorial ☁💟💟☁💟💟☁ 💟💟💟💟💟💟💟 💟💟💟💟💟💟💟 ☁💟💟💟💟💟☁ ☁☁💟💟💟☁☁ ☁☁☁💟☁☁☁

[@saintshadow7484]

I love your no filler no fluff exceptional videos... Constantly find myself referring to your Channel very much appreciated.

[@o7k4vokb0ksp5n2]

Your channel has helped me with so many different elements from understanding Serum, the types of sine waves, saturation, different types of VSTs/effects, mixing etc. (just off the top of my head). Great production quality and it's sincerely made my music sound fuller and better produced. No filler either. You're a real one bro

[@crowned-blue]

I listened the stereo seperated one like many times, it really adds the charm the feeling as I call it....stereo widening is always the first thing I look for, even before the loudness thing. I use the same Imager, it works like a miracle, definitely recommended. And thank you 'in the mix'....for introducing the mid side eq technique, one more good piece of knowledge you added in me, as you always do....Thank you....

[@TheSecondC2]

POSITIVE ASS COMMENT, GG. I like that

[@huckwalton2307]

So well spoken. It's like you watched all the KZbin videos ever and figured out how to properly talk to your audience.

[@inthemix]

You won't believe how bad my presentation skills were when I started. Steep learning curve!

[@gergelygal2749]

"...in tutorials people leave this off,they start pushing the bands up saying they can hear stereo widthening" you made my day man xddd anyway, thanks for the help for stereo widthening ! (y)

[@krawbob8790]

this made me laugh so much

[@josephjohnchombo5127]

People are really dump 😅 be like ooh I hear some stereo width lol

[@eugelmusic]

Actually plugin works even if u dont touch the button. It acts like a mid\side equalizer. But only if your track has "side" information/recorded in room on stereo mics, etc. And yes, if u use it on a completely dry mono signal, it doesnt work.

[@bukamamusic]

@@eugelmusic yes and stereoize is just haas delay. U can do all of the things without this plugin

[@Hello-pl2qe]

I haven't seen a video you made yet that wasn't clear-cut, straight to the point and didn't help in some way. Thanks

[@DavidDiMuzio]

I would definitely love to see a video on Mid-Side EQ. It's something that I still don't fully grasp. Will check to see if you've already posted on though since you posted this video a few months back. Thanks! ...and I love that you use Ozone to demo this stuff since I use it as well, haha.

[@jamesdacus7367]

agreed

[@jimmylobe9669]

agreed! great tutorial though.

[@foxypotato3094]

this helped me understand mid to side EQ a lot better, great tutorial kzbin.info/www/bejne/aX_IYoZplKt3m5o

[@emme6907]

Mid=central signal. Side=L and R signal. Then you EQ! Not complicated to understand how it works. To understand when and why you need it, it's the basic purpose of mixing = making frequency room for instruments/sounds so they sound better. But sometimes you need frequencies that sadly step on each other. Mid side EQ is helpful for this.

[@jaydekaytv]

@@foxypotato3094 Going to check this - thanks.

[@thecruxified1]

Dude! You're the shit man u start off so humble like your gonna give just a little but you end up giving blessings! 💯 in all vids

[@patricksperspective99]

I know we come here for the mixing ( and I appreciate you for all I've learnt from you ❤) but wow the music you make is amazing

[@AveryBlueRemix]

You have a keen ear and seem very intelligent. Thank you for this tutorial! It has helped me in my production goals.

[@smokeystarr]

I'm so glad I found this channel! So clear and concise at instructions. I don't care about channel logos and intros and Hey how are you guys doing today I hope everybody is doing good. I'm here to learn. I can't stand when people waste my time with video intros and junk like that. You cut the fat out and get to the point. I love that. thank you bro

[@yannanotterman6442]

Everytime I am struggling in FL studios you come and save the day. Much appreciated!!

[@freeform144]

I would love to see a tutorial about stereo separation in more ambient, soundscape type tracks where more reverb, delay, and general spaciousness is used ... .

[@1MuddyDog]

I'm completely new to the mixing/mastering process, and of all the YT tuts in this field, yours are by far the best that I've watched. Your presentations are clear and logical, and you explain complex concepts and techniques with a lucidness and simplicity that makes them so much easier to grasp. Your material is always very helpful, thank you for taking the time and effort to produce it!

[@d3tach3d]

It made the separation in the mix open up so much more

[@megumin4625]

+1 Tip: Patcher includes a preset for a MId-Side EQ using Parametric Equalizer 2. You can also use mid-side with stock plugins.

[@Groovesalot]

Great video! You could also re-voice the chords so they're not so close the melody, even bring it up an octave (which would still be consistent with the genre) that would resolve any frequency issues.

[@LukeSly91]

A little bit of sidechaining can also really help

[@RosentwigMusic]

Love your channel! You guys teached me so much throughout the last year!

[@Nekrome]

This man has a tutorial for everything, 10/10 as usual!

[@andrewguerrero3290]

You're very informative and I love the videos but I think I'm here because you voice is soothing and relaxing

[@avationmusic]

Old but gold video. Too many engineers are now saying “don’t use md side EQ, only use imagers” and many are saying vice versa. The solution lies between both😎

[@inthemix]

Thanks. I’ve not heard anyone say not to use M/S EQ? I couldn’t imagine working without it! You’re right it’s just about finding the right tool for the job.

[@avationmusic]

@@inthemix I can't list off any names but most of the times I've heard it were from workshops and master classes. The engineers often complain about the phase issues MS EQs create. The funny thing is, the engineers that favour midside EQ often denounce stereo imagers for the exact same reason 🤦🏻‍♂️ Also, amazing that you're still replying to comments on this video 4 years later!

[@Larry21924]

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[@ANGEL-fg4hv]

never heard your music and WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY its so good.

[@atlas867]

It's super clear! Good song btw and always outstanding tutorials! I've considered taking your advice and sending out to a professional for mastering but I'm eager to learn how to do it myself. I might be able to someday but until then thanks for all the tips and quality tutorials!

[@HelipOfficial]

Thank you so much. You just save me from disaster. My new track sounds horrible despite the separation. I also used ozone and put the bands up BUT as you said, "other tutorials just leave them off and just ramp up the bands cause the can hear the stereo separation.", Boi it literally ticked me off. I have been using ozone for so long and i left all the stereotize off of my tracks because other tutorials said so. You just saved me big time!

[@sixthfloormemories1566]

Great video. I've always kind of ignored MS eq, but it has actually solved some of my mixing problems.

[@krushingbro6620]

hands down best tutorials on youtube.

[@rusrus29]

I make a little Drum&bass and this has answered many off my issues!! haha..Thank You again, i'm still grasping better mixing and this function is one that gets neglected..

[@snitkerdoodles]

Very helpful video man! My band is about to release our first full length record and I'm doing all the production work myself. This made it sound way more full! :D

[@inthemix]

snitkerdoodles Nice! I'm happy to hear that, good luck :)

[@rodriguez.fernando]

Thank you for helping me understand stereo separation. Mid-side eq would be a great topic. Also, can you do a tutorial on how to use reverb and/or delay on a voice track, how to set up parameters correctly? I know it has to be on tempo, but I can't seem to make them work in my tracks as far as eq-ing it, how to not make it overcome the mix and other relevant things to watch for.

[@Hyper5nic]

Great trick Michael! I'm giving this a go with Patcher and splitting the signal in low, mono, and high with stereo effect.

[@PeJBeats]

You have never disappointed bruh Tried this on my vocals and boom It was the only thing I was missing Thanks alot

[@TheRav3n]

This instrumental is pretty... I never describe tracks as that but it sounds relaxing...

[@demiladeolaleye8766]

Can you do a tutorial on stereo widening and mid side eq with default/stock Fl Studio plugins please?

[@navazmerchant3241]

There's a MID SIDE EQ in patcher in YOULEAN X bank, just 2 knobs, works like magic

[@theoptiml]

Alex Minner what’s with the negative vibe.

[@TheCampbell254bme]

Alex Minner damn dude why act like that? I hate reading stuff like this. Seriously should be an IQ test before using the internet.

[@artissonbeats3057]

@@navazmerchant3241 wht r u talking about....2 different things at once

[@nyukechen]

@@navazmerchant3241 wow thank you so much helped my sounds sound way better

[@FullSpectrum312]

Great video. Sharing widely and adding it to the FS "Music Production" playlist.

[@braddugas7756]

You need to do a tutorial on the vocal sound here! Such a killer vibe.

[@kobalt77]

Thank you so much Michael. Your videos are always very useful, well presented, easy to understand and as far as I am concerned, greatly appreciated.

[@abisekgurung23]

Your videos really helps us, im really grateful that you put up the specific details that helps us keep going in the right direction. Appriciate this ❤️💯💯

[@JavierSanchez-eo8rg]

The very first thing i do when i open your video is dropping a like. Before seeing it man, excellent.

[@goviktor]

Dear Sir! Thank you very much! You make great job! Your videos helps a lot to learn FL. Thanks !!!! Video is clear and friendly

[@dorian1112]

Another technique would be do to a compressor on the rhodes with a sidechain input from the vocals. That will cause the rhodes to "duck" when the vocals come in.

[@Baz97__]

You're all so full of good ideas. Where the fuck cheap ass garage sale did I get my brain from

[@zxcvbnlyszghh]

1:58 lolololololanyway your vocal processing is unbelievable!

[@8bitheroes86]

This is why Wider is a nice plug in, it doesnt mess with your phase.

[@wilg8244]

You deserve more subscribers bro, you've taught me a lot these past years, tnx

[@Chris11249]

I don't know anything about sound engineering, I just started getting into it. But one thing that really stood out is whatever you did to your vocals in the first part of the video completely changed the entire vibe of the song. All that reverby, airy synthesized effect on the vocals shouldn't need to be done if you want to achieve what you want. Am I correct? I much prefer natural dynamic vocals, surely you can keep that and work around it. Sorry not sure if that makes sense, but I just didn't understand all that change to the vocals in the first place when you ended up steroizing the other tracks. I'd love to hear the "final" version on this YT video, but with the original vocals. Also, I'd love to hear the final final version you released. Great work man! I'm just starting to learn.

[@solitudestudios3370]

You could also do it without a plug in at all. Duplicate the Rhodes channel. Pan one left and one right. Adjust the delay compensation (or move all instances of the sound on the time line over a very small amount). Bus the two channels back together to compress and EQ them together.

[@becketthor]

Usually sounds like shit in mono however

[@hjkhhjkh3635]

Does that produce the same result? I was wondering about this

[@AaronBoccio]

Another solid technique. Keep em coming boys!

[@dubem6671]

I find that using the “stereorize” button on an entire mix can make your song sound thinner and washed out. Its more useful when used on an individual sound that’s in mono, but otherwise using the imager without the stereorize works fine

[@MicroDotTV]

nice video, vocals sound much better without all that reverb :)

[@inthemix]

Evolve- The Performing Arts The dry vocals already had a lot of processing on them, compression and EQ etc so they sound quite good without. I think in the track the reverb helps it feel a bit more spacious

[@denvy21]

Reverb sound awesome esp intro ...reverb gives more feel to it,so its appropriate i guess.👍

[@GD-kx7dh]

it's too short of a clip to judge really, you have to listen intensely to the entire track before deciding anything. maybe that long decay will work wonderfully in the bigger picture.

[@zekefaison7936]

The reverb adds all the depth to the song

[@hlokomani]

It's beautiful what do you mean

[@VoidloniXaarii]

Thank you very much. All your videos are so very educative. Thank you

[@Kyroshie]

2:04 only if track is mono i think.

[@inthemix]

Kyroshie Yes absolutely

[@tonesfyre6386]

@@inthemix I don't really understand the (if the track is in mono part that he said)

[@xXAaron102Xx]

@@tonesfyre6386 if you're using the plug in on a stereo track you will be able to use the width without clicking stereoize since it's already stereo

[@tonesfyre6386]

@@xXAaron102Xx Thanks a log

[@tonesfyre6386]

Lot*

[@stevetaffy8780]

This was very well put together. Clever man ! Thanks

[@timhardman9386]

Exactly what I was needing. Thank you 😉👍🏻

[@pedrokoury1352]

I never stop learning from you!

[@AlexDuarteMusico]

Really cool! I used to use S1 Stereo Imager by Waves, but I always had serious phase issues and I didn't know it could be done this way. Thank you!

[@braddugas7756]

Please do a video on this vocal chain. Very cool ethereal quality to it

[@johnhuldt]

For the people asking for more on mid/side eq, check out Dan Worral’s videos for FabFilter. He goes really in debt about it. Great video btw!

[@DrummerBoy314]

Dude you're a pro in this field.

[@montagemix7072]

This is super professional technique

[@djrandalldean]

Best one i've seen so far, Thanks!

[@maniravandi5983]

I find your videos really helpful.thanks a lot for making these high quality videos

[@greatestsawes9712]

Those who critisise FL Studio are in desperate need of help. Thanks for the video

[@WavebeatsMusic]

GREAT VIDEO as usual! Your explanations are clear, straight to the point and easy to follow! I will be watching a lot more of your videos! also the way you speak is calm and relaxed! Well done! :)

[@邹炭]

Really relaxing to listen you teaching. Also, chill song

[@MiracleDee]

Thanx. Voxengo Stereo Touch is also a free alternative (and does the job well too)

[@LiMCRiMZ]

Forget that intro you take your time and we'll snuff out the impatient ones looking for a single button to make their songs "fire"

[@jeremyformerlyknownastoken8218]

SMOOTHIE SOUNDZ why

[@MixedByMonroe]

That some serious reverb on the vocal

[@aqtaii]

great video

[@billleclair6633]

Thank you, I pop in from time to time,. Your tutorial s have been v helpful....

[@KayEhmBee]

This was great! definitely solved a lot of issues I've had. Thank you

[@slobgnarly5012]

This was great! I'd love to see how you blend 2 different synths together, and how you process the Imager and mid side EQs. :)

[@dj_Kzas]

Good stuff mate you always answer my questions even before I ask

[@BChan1991]

this is dope. much appreciated. I prefer the mono mix because I need bass and the stereo mix had like 0 bass

[@stellen996]

plz make a detailed vid on mono compatibility.

[@AndyBrewerProd]

Excellent work. I love to watch these

[@thabangmoganedi5]

Wow. This is gold.

[@hlokomani]

That reverb oh my word, so Godly🔥🔥🔥😭😭

[@inthemix]

HK BEATS It's a QRS Quantec replica by verbsuite if you were interested!

[@webton934]

Ok this is really really helpful thank you so much

[@iguessme]

5:15 listen to that when you‘re stoned with headphones

[@kylewilcox846]

Dude this is exactly what I need like right now

[@KARNASER]

Thank you so much! Great advice👍🏻 Can you please make a full tutorial about ozone 8? All the tutorials out there aren’t that clear as you are in the way you address our minds with your tutorials. Much appreciation ❤️

[@inthemix]

KARNASER I'll try to give it my best shot!

[@KARNASER]

In The Mix Thank you bro 🙏🏻❤️

[@danmgc]

Have you, or could you possibly do a video on using orchestral instruments in electronic music? Orchestral trance is my favorite sub genre, and I'm looking for how to effectively use strings, piano, brass, inside your mix. Thanks for all of your hard work! I've gone from newby in FL to very comfortable in a matter of weeks watching your channel.

[@SimonO1919]

Very helpful stuff again man! I was looking at your mixer there. It would be nice to see a video about how you set that up. I mean there are groupings and things there and probably a lot of interesting topics you'd need to touch on to explain how you control everything with it. I for one would be very interested for sure.

[@vivekkiran73]

U are my inspiration Mike!!

[@yoe91]

Thank you for this. I think I've been guilty for years of using this plugin WITHOUT the stereoize !... will get back to the lab and try this out.

[@inthemix]

Just a little update! If the source is mono you need to use that button. If your audio already had some stereo then you are all good,no need to press the button :)

[@yoe91]

@@inthemix good to know, will bear in mind, thanks.

[@theabhiramprasad]

we need that intense videooo

[@IAmJeevan1]

Left, right and center mix🎉🎉🎉the effect to work. 🎉🎉mono, stereo🎉😮😮

[@josejayant3127]

The vocals sound very good

[@HeadrushStudio21228]

Ozone imager is my secret weapon!

[@AG-ye6pv]

This is SO SO helpful! Thank you.

[@jacquelamontharenberg]

Great job man... great info for turning a mono piano track into a more widened sound. ... sounds like a stereo track...

[@strykerproductions3554]

Another great video. Thank you! Would love a full video tutorial on this plug in. I just purchased Ozone so it would be a big help. I have mainly been using the stereo separation tool when mastering but wondering how it would work if I used the tool on separate tracks and then still used it on the entire mix when I master.

[@TheFlameGarden]

so far separation has been all ive really needed. but ill check out stereo widening.

[@synthoelectro]

So glad to see stuff like this, it's straight, to the point and non pretentious. There is nothing worse than, you suck at mixing and all those other videos these days, just the facts please.

[@beatbone96]

just put it on my mix, everything was louder and really fat, voice fitted better in the mix so thanks bro

[@easternavstudio5889]

you are very smart boy. great video buddy thank you so much

[@oscar9876543]

This helped me on my mix right now, thanks!

[@karadytube]

Because of this video and it’s information, i liked and subscribed , thx man :)

[@TheLastMoomin]

Bulkyness is a great word 😁 Thanks for sharing.