If Ravi Zacharias can fooled millions of us, imagine how many people would be fooled by the Anti-Christ who is yet to come. It's a very good lesson for us to never put our trust on human being. Only Jesus
@joshswicegood32533 жыл бұрын
But you got to understand he didn’t deceive by lies just by a double life. You have to ask yourself this question “does his lifestyle negate his message.” The things he said were very good at convincing people of Gods existence. But truth is truth. Ravi may well indeed be in hell right now, but God has always used sinners and even rebellious people in his word to convey his truth. Ravi was a hypocrite we knew this now. The anti christ will clearly speak things that are false, but he will be eloquent in speech to sway people by sis wittiness and intelligence. If God used Ravi to save some then God will do so. We can never know how God will use it.
@FaithBiete3 жыл бұрын
@Faisal Siraj what are you trying to say?
@FaithBiete3 жыл бұрын
@Faisal Siraj So? What are you trying to prove? That Jesus is not God? Jesus is the visible image of the Invisible God. The perfect sacrificial lamb for our sin.
@FaithBiete3 жыл бұрын
@Faisal Siraj hahaha.. if Jesus is not God, what is he?
@FaithBiete3 жыл бұрын
@Faisal Siraj if you doubt Jesus is God, why don't you ask him? Why do you ask me? Even if I gave you an answer, you would still deny it. Pray to God and ask him.
@soalaperiadi3 жыл бұрын
Dallas Willard once taught a prayer, “Lord, please don't grant me more power than my character can handle.”
@jjcm31353 жыл бұрын
Now he was a great man and I'm catholic. Truly humble and truly bright.
@pattytoscano95693 жыл бұрын
Great prayer, but not a fan of the author of it. He pushes mysticism.
@Jordan185613 жыл бұрын
Great prayer. Is this a quote from one of his books?
@philipgopal75943 жыл бұрын
Paradise tiring.. Praise the Lord Jesus Christ... This should our prayer with all humility and total dependency upon our Lord Jesus Christ. Amen and Amen. God bless you graciously '
@acharich3 жыл бұрын
@@pattytoscano9569 😅🙏🏾
@dorothyew71563 жыл бұрын
When a person is too charming, beware! HUGE RED FLAG!
@ratnasahu31163 жыл бұрын
I think as Christians we shouldn't dwell so much on the failures of fellow believers. So that we should not be a stumbling blocks to the whole community around
@yulialexandra4448 ай бұрын
Yes,all cult leaders are "too charming"
@melleetheka3 жыл бұрын
Ravi has brought shame on himself not on Christ or the gospel.
@slimshead81003 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, many view it as a reproach to Christ. Paul said in Hebrews 6:6, ‘they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame’. So, sadly, when men proclaim to be a man of God, yet live an entirely hypocritical life, it also puts Christ to an “open shame”. Obviously, it doesn’t diminish Christ, but it does bring shame to those who name the name of Christ. Paul also spoke of those who “hold the truth in unrighteousness”, and the wrath that would come to them (Romans 1:18). How sad how some claim to be followers of Christ, but they commit such atrocities. There’s a difference between struggling with sin, and outright living in unrepentant sin. People who are “struggling” with it don’t just wholly give themselves over to it, because then it’s no longer struggling. It’s just sickening to see when that happens.
@samdevasahayam45873 жыл бұрын
Really sad for Ravi's wife
@yulialexandra4448 ай бұрын
I feel bad for the victims. She was probably an enabler, that's how the wives of narcissisists are.
@rosariob94263 жыл бұрын
There are, indeed, "wolves in sheep's clothing..."
@gabrielfriedmann20433 жыл бұрын
Or wolves in shepherds clothing.
@Annie261.3 жыл бұрын
I could never figure out what Ravi was saying. Word salad?
@susanzumback77113 жыл бұрын
Yes ,extra large word salad with ALL the toppings
@kiabvaj56563 жыл бұрын
He was speaking in tongues.
@baronessvarney93793 жыл бұрын
He lost me at 'moral subjective reasoning'! He spewed a lot of gobbedegook! He never knew Jesus.
@clispyleaf3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely.
@tarkatheotter69773 жыл бұрын
Every question an audience member asked was just used as an excuse to name drop, show off how well travelled and knowledgeable he was without actually addressing the subject of the questioners inquiry. I think he never had a Church because he was so pride filled he couldn’t humble himself to submit to anyone else, especially someone he saw as his intellectual inferior.
@zakariyarazi82473 жыл бұрын
Ravi is dead. Jesus is alive.
@master6was93 жыл бұрын
And Jesus is a Muslim .
@angelakatsapas78943 жыл бұрын
@@master6was9 Reallly. Islam came six hundred years after Jesus Rose from the dead.
@mahidinho54613 жыл бұрын
@@angelakatsapas7894 Mate! You are very Ignorant! Ask Rabbi Abrahamson! He'll tell you How "Islam" is Literally The True Name of the Religion of All Prophets! A "Muslim" is Simply a person who submits Him/herself to GOD! Simple as that! Are you saying I'sa (A)/Jesus Christ (Pbuh) did not submit to GOD?! Seriously?! A humble suggestion. Try Learning about The True Jesus Pbuh & Islam more......You lack knowledge on these matters
@angelakatsapas78943 жыл бұрын
@@mahidinho5461 I dont believe in lies or propaganda especially from a certain group.
@mahidinho54613 жыл бұрын
@@angelakatsapas7894 Ah Blindness! You are ready to believe 1+1+1=1 to believe that a Human can be GOD ALMIGHTY But you can't give effort to learn the truth That Isa (A) Himself preached? Ok. Your choice! May ALLAH SWT guide us all!
@jennylynne31573 жыл бұрын
Hearing how charming and manipulative he was, it really makes me realize how much we need to read the scriptures so we are not deceived. If Ravi Zacharias can deceive so many, just think how many the antichrist can deceive.
@faisalsiraj94233 жыл бұрын
@Jenny Lynne Peace be with you. You're an honest sister. Indeed you need to be thorough with the scriptures. How many did Saul aka Paul the Feroci0us W0LF in SHEEP'S clothing whom Jesus WARNED about, deceived? 🤔 Jesus said and foretold as COMMANDED by THE ONLY TRUE GOD - THE FATHER: *BY THE FRUITS YE SHALL KNOW THEM* Radical Monotheism exactly like the Jewish Prophets / Jews to believe in a uniquely ONE GOD - without any partners or equals or like a three in one falsehood called the doctrine of the Trinity - plus believing in the Messiah Jesus sent by God, and the essential consistency with his doctrine - the Muslim. The very words that the Father - THE ONLY TRUE GOD - COMMANDED Jesus Christ to say. The doctrine of THE ONLY TRUE GOD that HE COMMANDED Jesus Christ to give. The testimony of Jesus Christ on the Father: - The Only True God (John 17:3) - The Only One Who Knows The Hour (Mark 13:32) - Greater than I (John 14:28) - Greater than all (John 10:29) - My God and Your God (John 20:17) The doctrine of Jesus Christ = The doctrine of a Muslim. (Of course the term Father in the Jewish context. A figure of speech for their times. NOT that God has a literal Son. God has got Son by the Ton in the Bible.) Defenders of the true honor and status of Jesus Christ against lies and abominations which includes the Crucifixion. VERSUS Christianity more like the Greek and Roman doctrines and the pagan doctrines like "God" coming down in human form and human / blood sacrifice that pagans had going hand in hand with Paul's doctrines of easy fake salvation with blood of an innocent, making the Merciful God in to a blood thirsty vampire. The same people making Jesus Christ UNRIGHTEOUS by their position (believing in the fiction called Crucifixion) and making the Father a treacherous back-stabber by their position and doctrine. Christianity actually the followers of Paul. 2000 years ago, the Roman and Greek Empire with its culture and mythological and pagan roots already held the beliefs such as "God coming down in human form". So after witnessing just a single "miracle" from Paul the deceiver they were conforming to their already held beliefs. No wonder when they heard of this guy Jesus with all the stories of his miracles, it was very easy for them to take him as "Son of God" (and this concept later on developed in to taking him as God) as this already went hand in hand with their pagan and mythological belief system. Little wonder that those times and those places and people also had "Triads" and ancient "Trinities" and "God" in threes and stuff. Acts 14:11 When the crowd saw what Paul had done, they shouted in the Lycaonian language, "THE GODS HAVE COME DOWN to us IN HUMAN FORM!" *********** Then of course the abomination of the alleged human "sacrifice" of Jesus Christ making the Most Merciful in to some human blood thirsty vampire. Going against the very teachings of the true Prophets and that includes Jesus Christ. ******** Unfortunately, it was the Pauline Christianity and Pauline falsehoods, blended with pagan doctrine and backed up by the powerful Empire that eventually won out over the years and wiped out the Jewish movement of radical monotheism.
@faisalsiraj94233 жыл бұрын
@Jenny Lynne Whose side are you on when it comes to the most important subject? 🤔 On the subject of GOD and worship: Jesus and the Muslim are on the same side. The Muslim worships whom Jesus worships. The scriptures are the testament. John 4:21-22 Jesus saith unto her, Woman, believe me, the hour cometh, when ye shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem, *WORSHIP THE FATHER* . Ye worship ye know not what: *WE* know what *WE WORSHIP* : for salvation is of the Jews. Have another look: *WE WORSHIP* (The Jews INCLUDING ME - Jesus) “And this is life eternal, that they might know *YOU THE ONLY TRUE GOD* , and Jesus Christ, whom *YOU* have sent.” John 17:3 John 20:17: “Jesus saith unto her, ...I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and TO MY GOD, AND YOUR GOD.” Have another look! ".... *TO MY GOD and YOUR GOD* " ME and YOU 👉 *WE* *WE WORSHIP* THE ONLY TRUE GOD - THE FATHER who is THE GOD OF ME (Jesus) and YOU 👉 *OUR GOD* And Jesus answered him, THE FIRST OF ALL the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord *OUR GOD* is one Lord Mark 12:29 Jesus teaches: “Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and *HIM ONLY* shalt thou serve” Luke 4:8. Notice the words: “HIM ONLY.” Jesus did not say “US only,” or “Him and I only.” How could he possibly i it more clear than that? Jesus told to worship ONLY THE FATHER - who is THE GOD of Jesus too.
@faisalsiraj94233 жыл бұрын
@Jenny Lynne Please heed the serious warning given in the scriptures which you profess to uphold. It's a very serious warning on lack of knowledge and on rejecting knowledge. You must heed this warning. It's from the very scripture which you profess to uphold. It's for your own BENEFIT that such warning is given. Hosea 4:6 My people are *DESTROYED for LACK OF KNOWLEDGE* : *because thou hast REJECTED KNOWLEDGE* , 🚩🚩🚩🚩 *I will also reject thee* , that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children.
@faisalsiraj94233 жыл бұрын
@Jenny Lynne You're an honest sister. I hope you will not leave this thread and will read and reflect and reason and respond to what I've put forth from the scriptures. May YOU have the courage to accept the truth when you know it.
@justinwilson50063 жыл бұрын
I agree with u Jenny. I don’t know what Faisal is talking about lol
@TheVCRTimeMachine3 жыл бұрын
I read a few of his books and I always noticed that he rarely quoted scripture.Then I noticed in his videos that he rarely quotes scripture either. It should have been a red flag.
@faisalsiraj94233 жыл бұрын
@VCR Time Machine Ravi knew pretty well that as soon as the matter goes to the scriptures, the collapse of what he calls his faith is destined. When your faith isn't based on the sayings of Jesus, it should be a red flag. Jesus said and foretold as COMMANDED by THE ONLY TRUE GOD - THE FATHER: *BY THE FRUITS YE SHALL KNOW THEM* Radical Monotheism exactly like the Jewish Prophets / Jews to believe in a uniquely ONE GOD - without any partners or equals or like a three in one falsehood called the doctrine of the Trinity - plus believing in the Messiah Jesus sent by God, and the essential consistency with his doctrine - the Muslim. The very words that the Father - THE ONLY TRUE GOD - COMMANDED Jesus Christ to say. The doctrine of THE ONLY TRUE GOD that HE COMMANDED Jesus Christ to give. The testimony of Jesus Christ on the Father: - The Only True God (John 17:3) - The Only One Who Knows The Hour (Mark 13:32) - Greater than I (John 14:28) - Greater than all (John 10:29) - My God and Your God (John 20:17) The doctrine of Jesus Christ = The doctrine of a Muslim. (Of course the term Father in the Jewish context. A figure of speech for their times. NOT that God has a literal Son. God has got Son by the Ton in the Bible.) Defenders of the true honor and status of Jesus Christ against lies and abominations which includes the Crucifixion. VERSUS Christianity more like the Greek and Roman doctrines and the pagan doctrines like "God" coming down in human form and human / blood sacrifice that pagans had going hand in hand with Paul's doctrines of easy fake salvation with blood of an innocent, making the Merciful God in to a blood thirsty vampire. The same people making Jesus Christ UNRIGHTEOUS by their position (believing in the fiction called Crucifixion) and making the Father a treacherous back-stabber by their position and doctrine. Christianity actually the followers of Paul. 2000 years ago, the Roman and Greek Empire with its culture and mythological and pagan roots already held the beliefs such as "God coming down in human form". So after witnessing just a single "miracle" from Paul the deceiver they were conforming to their already held beliefs. No wonder when they heard of this guy Jesus with all the stories of his miracles, it was very easy for them to take him as "Son of God" (and this concept later on developed in to taking him as God) as this already went hand in hand with their pagan and mythological belief system. Little wonder that those times and those places and people also had "Triads" and ancient "Trinities" and "God" in threes and stuff. Acts 14:11 When the crowd saw what Paul had done, they shouted in the Lycaonian language, "THE GODS HAVE COME DOWN to us IN HUMAN FORM!" *********** Then of course the abomination of the alleged human "sacrifice" of Jesus Christ making the Most Merciful in to some human blood thirsty vampire. Going against the very teachings of the true Prophets and that includes Jesus Christ. ******** Unfortunately, it was the Pauline Christianity and Pauline falsehoods, blended with pagan doctrine and backed up by the powerful Empire that eventually won out over the years and wiped out the Jewish movement of radical monotheism.
@faisalsiraj94233 жыл бұрын
@VCR Time Machine The concept of GOD. The concept of WORSHIP: Jesus and the Muslim are on the same side. The Muslim worships whom Jesus worships. The scriptures are the testament. John 4:21-22 Jesus saith unto her, Woman, believe me, the hour cometh, when ye shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem, *WORSHIP THE FATHER* . Ye worship ye know not what: *WE* know what *WE WORSHIP* : for salvation is of the Jews. Have another look: *WE WORSHIP* (The Jews INCLUDING ME - Jesus) “And this is life eternal, that they might know *YOU THE ONLY TRUE GOD* , and Jesus Christ, whom *YOU* have sent.” John 17:3 John 20:17: “Jesus saith unto her, ...I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and TO MY GOD, AND YOUR GOD.” Have another look! ".... *TO MY GOD and YOUR GOD* " ME and YOU 👉 *WE* *WE WORSHIP* THE ONLY TRUE GOD - THE FATHER who is THE GOD OF ME (Jesus) and YOU 👉 *OUR GOD* And Jesus answered him, THE FIRST OF ALL the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord *OUR GOD* is one Lord Mark 12:29 Jesus teaches: “Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and *HIM ONLY* shalt thou serve” Luke 4:8. Notice the words: “HIM ONLY.” Jesus did not say “US only,” or “Him and I only.” How could he possibly i it more clear than that? Jesus told to worship ONLY THE FATHER - who is THE GOD of Jesus too.
@faisalsiraj94233 жыл бұрын
@VCR Time Machine With all due respect: IF YOU actually kept the sayings of Jesus and upheld his doctrine, YOU can't help being a Muslim. The scriptures are the testament. There is NO Christian on the face of the earth who upholds the doctrine of Jesus as much as the Muslim. There is NO BORN AGAIN, "Spirit" led Christian on the planet who can hold a candle to a Muslim when it comes to DEFENDING the true honor and status and doctrine of Jesus of YOUR very own scriptures. YOUR scriptures testify.
@las88833 жыл бұрын
I noticed that too which is why I don't understand what people found so profound about his teachings. They never really resonated with me .
@faisalsiraj94233 жыл бұрын
@@las8883 Peace be with you. Did you read what I put forth from the scriptures which you profess to uphold?
@JoyoftheLord7773 жыл бұрын
"Let God be true and every man a liar"
@mikedavidz61613 жыл бұрын
Amen .....
@loveiseternal55443 жыл бұрын
Amen
@mikedavidz61613 жыл бұрын
@@loveiseternal5544 Amen ..🙏
@darlenecaldwell44813 жыл бұрын
Amen to that!
@farmuhqas3 жыл бұрын
I thank you Mr Steve Baughman for not being deceived by Ravi and staying strong against the charm exuded by Ravi. You are a courageous man looking for the truth, a huge respect from me. I hope many more charlatans are exposed by the likes of you. Amen
@stellasharmini88603 жыл бұрын
Very true and well said
@anayetanayet71133 жыл бұрын
*Who should pay the price of Ravi Zachariya's sex scandle* If, u still say Jesus paid Ravi Zacharias sins then you need psychiatrists!*
@saintleslie3 жыл бұрын
@@anayetanayet7113 Factually, Jesus died on our behalf on the cross for our forgiveness, and rose again. But that forgiveness is granted to us when we admit our need, and ask for pardon from him.
@anayetanayet71133 жыл бұрын
@@saintleslie Shalom According to your own brain tell us when Jesus died he died as son of woman or as small or Big g/God?*kzbin.info/www/bejne/iqunqZajhs6NmcU
@saintleslie3 жыл бұрын
@@anayetanayet7113 When God the Son became man he still retained his Godhood. And there was never a time he ceased to be both, even on the cross.
@lindajohnson42043 жыл бұрын
Luke 10:21 In that hour Jesus rejoiced in spirit, and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes: even so, Father; for so it seemed good in thy sight.
@howlingwaters27413 жыл бұрын
@Prema Sandesham , I saw rage in Ravi ONCE. Burning black eyes that could pierce a stone wall. It was one of his last public appearances at Miami. Right around Passion Atlanta 2020. A skeptic from the Q&A was talking over the emcee and basically disrupting the limited time. Very rudely. Ravi stepped in, in defense of the young emcee and took over. He said, "I'll let you ask me anything EXCEPT for my daughter's hand in marriage!" The skeptic's name was Steve. Ravi was smoldering. Steve had disrupted worse than anyone I've ever seen. But Ravi managed to regain control. I can only speculate that Ravi was already in excruciating pain from the fast growing cancer, plus his regular lumbar agony. Another observation: Ravi's voice was always captivating. It caused you to lean in. But this disturbed me: he exaggerated the letter 'S' at the end of his statements. Use your imagination about why this might be a problem. I dismissed it as part of his natural vocal modulation, cadence and style. I would never tolerate such a red flag in any other pastor. Just a little too close to the forked tongued Liar. Was this a case of demonic oppression left undelivered? What a wake of disaster it has caused! Apologetics, Evangelists, new Believers, the good people of the ministry, the family who must not only grieve his passing, but confront the possibility of his Eternal Destiny. My heart is broken. I loved and admired Ravi. He was a teacher. I say this loudly with apologies: HE SPOKE OF THE TEMPTATIONS OF THE FLESH AS AN ITINERANT FOR YEARS! PORNOGRAPHY IN HOTEL ROOMS, Female admirers and their starstruck "availability ". The most telling anecdote was the story about a hedonistic man who sees a naked woman bathing upriver from where he was swimming. He moves toward her with sexual intent. He startles her. She has advanced Leprosy and covers herself as best she can and peers out towards him. If memory serves, I believe she apologized to him if he had been frightened by her. The man swims away, as Ravi told it- concluding with his shameful acknowledgement that HE was the monster, not her. HE was the creature to be feared. I heard it in Ravi's voice. A thinly veiled confession? At Passion 2020, his message to young people was a staunch warning against sins of the flesh and the temptations they face while growing up. At no time in any of Ravi's presentations did I doubt about whom he was speaking when addressing temptations of hotels, cable pornography and even implications of resisting female advances. He was telling on himself and nobody, (save one employee who was reportedly "sent to Siberia") including this student raised the issue with him or anyone at RZIM. There's a lot of blame to go around. But to what end? Treat the wounded victims tenderly. Salvage ministry through Wellspring and Naomi's noble work against sex trafficking. Seems pretty congruent as an option, given the nature of Ravi's predation. RZIM: Screen all footage for the content and judge for yourselves. Plain as day. He had a serious problem. Oh, how Satan delights when he's brought down a powerful man of God! Oh, the pride and arrogance of Baughman believing himself to be the one who did it. No, Mr. Baughman, God used you to bring this darkness to light. And all will see how God causes all things to work for the good of those who love Him and are called to His purpose in Christ. Prayers...
@deedragriffie79833 жыл бұрын
@Howling Waters I appreciate your uncanny ability to convey such difficult truth, impassioned by righteous anger but tempered with grace- much like Jesus often dealt with the Pharisees and those they impacted with their pious religiosity.
@jeantoh83778 ай бұрын
Satan did not bring down a powerful man of God. i think Ravi is a deceiver used by Satan to disguise as a man of God from the start. Bec the bible told us what God has began in His believers, He will hold them to the end.
@johnfroelich85543 жыл бұрын
A lot of people were dependant upon Mr. Zacharias for their comfortable lives. No one wanted to expose him. He was a carny-hustler...
@Lambdamale.3 жыл бұрын
I listened to Ravi for almost 20 years. My kids used to listen to him as they fell asleep. It was tough to accept he lied about his education, and it gives credence to all the other accusations as well. Crying shame.
@Markph73 жыл бұрын
Thank you Paul and Steve for your powerful pursuit of truth for the sake of caring about human beings hurt by corruption and the layers of deceit that our evangelical community allowed and still allows. As a believer I am shocked that evangelicals do not believe the basic things that Jesus said about Power, wolves, whitewash, religion as a way to hide evil. May we grow up and love “heroes” with truth, to see them as human beings most at risk
@JJBeauvais3 жыл бұрын
The passage which hits the nail on the head is when Jesus says “woe unto you when everyone speaks well of you for that is how they treated the false prophets but blessed are you when you are persecuted for my namesake because that is how they treated the true prophets.” When someone is as likeable as Ravi beware.
@darlenecaldwell44813 жыл бұрын
That is a good point. I had never thought of it that way. 🙇♀️
@loveoracle87973 жыл бұрын
Ravi was a narcissist. I have watched some of his old ' shows ' now and he is talking about himself in the subject matter. One is called ' what is truth ? ' he talks about living a lie. Then another 2 I watched were similar.
@billiemunn3 жыл бұрын
Ravi sounds a lot like George Geftakys. Spiritual, brilliant, and inspiring, but finally exposed for a similar double life. I do relate to the struggles the individuals in his ministry are going through. I would encourage them not to throw the baby out with the bathwater, but to keep serving the Lord. 🙏🙏🙏
@marilynbarker82553 жыл бұрын
Interesting assessment Steve. I’ve known a person with the same kind of personality as Ravi’s... your description is perfect. Narcissistic personality I believe. Deceitful and charming.
@mariamanilenko11203 жыл бұрын
I order to recognize these people, do you have to know them closely? Or can this be obvious if you just pay attention?
@bettyanderson49823 жыл бұрын
Psychopath
@marilynbarker82553 жыл бұрын
@@mariamanilenko1120 Once you’ve been victimized by one you recognize the traits. Without that experience it could be difficult to spot them. They’re very, very clever at fooling people, so much so that you’re always doubtful of your assessment of them.... that’s the power they have over you.
@@marilynbarker8255 Okay, that seems obvious but what are those traits, because in this interview he seems like a caring person. Is there anything beyond the obvious?
@donnag.36113 жыл бұрын
Another aspect I'd like to talk about is that when people open up the doors to evil doings, they also open up the doors to strongmen, principalities, powers, etc. in the spirit realm...it looks to me like Ravi carried w/ him a strongman of Jezebel spirit, the witchcraft spirit, the spirit of intimidation, lying spirit, seduction spirit, the charmer spirit (like a snake) & many more. For sure, HE WAS A WOLF & WOLVES FOOL PEOPLE!!! So glad that Steve had this dinner w/ him & continued to pursue him!
@lauren44343 жыл бұрын
"it was a standard cult move, to get away from the facts and build a heart connection....."
@imgmakr3 жыл бұрын
A very jaded statement.
@lauren44343 жыл бұрын
@@imgmakr I thank God for being jaded then, and to put all my trust in Jesus Christ, and not in the smooth words of man. I am learning to above all think logically, not emotionally, and to thank God for this discernment.
@lauren44343 жыл бұрын
@Faisal Siraj I mean no disrespect, but too many words feels painful to my spirit, I don't feel very comfortable with it all. But Blessings of The One True God upon you my friend, may God's kindness shine upon you always. 🌸 🙏 🔥
@suzipam12343 жыл бұрын
It’s true
@user-ii9we3hc4h3 жыл бұрын
Thank God for Steve Baughman.
@Mark-id7fq3 жыл бұрын
So, him owning spas and having massage girls travel with him raised no red flags with RZIM?🤔
@davidbermudez77043 жыл бұрын
They were hiding the corruption from people to not ruin Ravi’s reputation
@evelynalexander69043 жыл бұрын
I understand whenever anyone questioned the way it even looked, he would turn the tables on them, making them the "bad guy" so to speak, become angry, and would thereafter treat them disfavorably. Please know that is what I heard. I have no personal knowledge about it, but I heard it from a person who had researched it.
@atvJim088893 жыл бұрын
David Bermudez that’s half a sentence....”They we’re hiding the corruption from people to not ruin Ravis reputation”.......(other half) so they could maintain their own fat salaries. DONT BE NAIVE, THE WHOLE MINISTRY HAD TO KNOW. There is enough to warrant a criminal investigation of the people behind the scenes at the ministry. The Miller and Martin “broad scope” investigation and report is a joke and sham to direct attention away from the people in the ministry. Don’t continue to be deceived!
@davidbermudez77043 жыл бұрын
@@atvJim08889 Continue to believe what you want to believe I’m moving on, got rid of Ravi’s books and you should as well
@donsimonds51863 жыл бұрын
@@atvJim08889 wow, so you've done your own extensive research? I'll be looking forward to the report you put out.
@barbarabrooks47473 жыл бұрын
Every leader must be subject to elders. Ravi ended up involved in multiple bad acts because no elders held him to common sense guidelines like not being away from home 200 days a year, not being an active member of a church and not getting massages by young women. Leaders need to be chosen for their character, not their charm and talent. Elders and boards need to hold leaders to high ethical standards, and Christians need to boycott any organization that fails to meet these standards.
@happy777abc9 ай бұрын
Ravi ended up there because he chose to deceive people. He conned them all.
@barbarabrooks47479 ай бұрын
I still think better oversight would have caught him sooner. For example, running a spa with women masseuses isn't an appropriate role for a minister. I always felt like he was out to flatter his audiences.
@godhealinghearts11153 жыл бұрын
Covert Narcissistic behavior is always manipulative either anger or charm...so sad and disgraceful that he was so abusive behind the scenes and has left only the legacy of lies and devastation of women's lives behind. So much for loving others as much as you love yourself...
@jonyoung64053 жыл бұрын
I stopped listening to his radio broadcast years ago. He was very wordy and almost never conferred to the scriptures. Just figured he was another empty suit.
@RoseSharon77773 жыл бұрын
I call it "Word Salad" that never had any flavor.
@donsimonds51863 жыл бұрын
I guess that was his ticket to living that double life. He was so intellectual and could woo you with all the big words and philosophy that you forgot that he wasn't even referring to the scripture, or to Christ or to the gospels very much.
@RoseSharon77773 жыл бұрын
@@donsimonds5186 Yes and MANY more to be exposed coming soon. With money comes corruption and sin.
@Sheba_3163 жыл бұрын
true.
@Isaiah--vj2xu3 жыл бұрын
@@donsimonds5186 so true.. Thats how he fooled me too😞 I hope I escape the antiChrist..
@mrscp043 жыл бұрын
The man was a Pro Snake.
@lauren44343 жыл бұрын
Classic Covert Narcissist
@NhwNews3 жыл бұрын
How many 'Ravi Zachariahs' are out there at this very minute? I am not referring to in-your-face prosperity gospelers and self appointed prophets, apostles, etc. I am talking about bona-fide preachers and Christian leaders who are leading a double life. Scary thought.
@PaDutchRunner3 жыл бұрын
If you listen carefully to Ravi’s message, he never really shared the gospel message. And his use of Scripture was abysmal.
@estherodanga42383 жыл бұрын
He wasn't a bonafide preacher to be begin with. He was as lukewarm as it gets and Jesus said that he spits such out.
@PaDutchRunner3 жыл бұрын
@@estherodanga4238 Very true.
@PaDutchRunner3 жыл бұрын
@@estherodanga4238 And if he hadn’t lied about his credentials he never would have reached the his exalted status in the first place. He was a fraud through and through.
@estherodanga42383 жыл бұрын
@@PaDutchRunner I didn't know about the fake credentials, I will look into it.This whole saga is just sad, crassy and embarrassing.
@thebluedoorstep6473 жыл бұрын
Ravi was a deceiver who had deceived even himself. I almost feel sorry for him, except that his behaviour resulted in so many people being hurt by his deception. God, however, is not mocked. What Ravi Zacharias sowed during his life, he will reap.
@ktermalkut83323 жыл бұрын
Getting Saved under Acts 2:36-38 is core. We cannot understand the spiritual with our human reasoning - that is scripture not my opinion. Read Romans 8:5-8, 1Corinthians 2:9-16 Without the Baptism of the Holy Spirit with the evidence of speaking in other Tongues, it is impossible to have spiritual discernment. I listened to ravi once and knew he was a tool of satan who was misleading many. Absolute confirmation of the scriptures in 1Timothy 4 and 2Timothy 4 where people will be seduced by lying spirits and doctrines of demons, and will collect to themselves teachers who please them / give them itching ears.
@Redeemed.of.YHVH.thru.Christ3 жыл бұрын
@@ktermalkut8332, nowhere in scripture does it say that everyone who is born again of the Holy Spirit will speak in tongues, and that lie that keeps being perpetuated by Pentecostals and Charismatics has caused many professing believers in Christ to FAKE speaking in tongues when around other church members for fear of being rejected because they don’t speak in tongues, and THAT is very disturbing. The scriptures clearly say there are MANY DIFFERENT GIFTS OF THE HOLY SPIRIT, and we do not all have the same gifts, but we all make up the same body of Christ. The proof of being truly born again of the Holy Spirit is A TRANSFORMED LIFE, transformed from within by the power of the Holy Spirit, turned from being an ungodly sînner to being A NEW CREATURE IN CHRIST, just as Jesus promises we will be. Old ways of living are passed away, and all things become new, through regeneration and repentance, which are gifts from God. Demon possessed people also speak in tongues in case you don’t know that, so speaking in tongues IS NOT evidence of being born again of the Holy Spirit, A TRANSFORMED LIFE AND REPENTANCE AND REGENERATION ARE THE PROOFS OF BEING BORN AGAIN OF THE HOLY SPIRIT OF CHRIST! We’re given a NEW HEART, and a RENEWED MIND. On the day of Pentecost, the gift of tongues was given FOR A SPECIFIC PURPOSE, so that the thousands who heard the disciples preach would hear the gospel preached IN THEIR OWN LANGUAGE. This is NOT how the gift of tongues is presented today. People do not follow the scriptures which say if you speak in tongues in the church, THERE MUST BE AN INTERPRETER PRESENT, and IF NO INTERPRETER IS PRESENT, KEEP QUIET AND TALK TO GOD WITHIN YOURSELF! The majority of people who claim to speak in tongues are SPEAKING GIBBERISH, which is UNBIBLICAL! You hear them “aki eka Hakka beda blah BLAH BLAH” and they are FAKES, LYING DECEIVERS, WHO ONLY SEEK ATTENTION FOR THEIR OWN GLORY. Just like Jesus said, A WICKED AND ADULTEROUS GENERATION SEEKS AFTER A SIGN! If they are not speaking in a foreign language that is spoken by other people on this earth, that can be translated by an interpreter, THEN THEY ARE LYING FRAUDS!! The Bible says TONGUES ARE A FOREIGN LANGUAGE SPOKEN BY OTHER PEOPLE, a language that the one speaking it has never studied, and does not know how to speak when not under the power of the Holy Spirit to speak in tongues. The vast majority of people who claim to speak in tongues are an embarrassment to themselves because what is coming from their mouths is GIBBERISH and NOT A LEGITIMATE FOREIGN LANGUAGE. Maybe that’s the dem0ns speaking through them when they speak gibberish. If it DOES NOT MATCH WHAT THE SCRIPTURES DEFINE AS SPEAKING IN TONGUES, then it’s NOT OF THE HOLY SPIRIT. Beloved, DO NOT BELIEVE EVERY SPIRIT, BUT TEST EVERYTHING AGAINST THE SCRIPTURES TO SEE IF THESE THINGS ARE TRULY OF GOD, and IF IT DOES NOT LINE UP WITH THE WORD OF GOD, IT IS NOT OF GOD! Now, it’s time for the lying Pentecostals and Charismatics to stop their lies about speaking in tongues, and it’s time that what they declare they can do matches the scriptural definition of speaking in tongues. If it’s not a foreign language they have never learned, a language that is spoken by a different nation, a foreign language that can be understood and translated by an interpreter, then they are liars and what they’re doing IS NOT OF GOD! Don’t sit here and claim you are born again of the Spirit of truth, and you are a liar who makes a claim that CONTRADICTS THE WRITTEN WORD OF GOD, which is your claim that EVERYONE WHO IS BORN AGAIN OF THE HOLY SPIRIT speaks in tongues, WHEN THE SCRIPTURES SAY THAT IS NOT TRUE!! The claim to speak in tongues is most often REVEALED TO BE A LIE when it’s proven that the person IS NOT SPEAKING A KNOWN FOREIGN LANGUAGE spoken by other people on this earth! It’s going to be a lot of people reaping the rewards of their lies. Anyone who is indwelt by the Holy Spirit, the Spirit of truth, is not able to lie that the Holy Spirit does not convict them until they repent of their lies. That’s why He’s called the Spirit of truth, because He guides us into all truth, including us being true to uphold the Word of God, and rebuke everything which contradicts God’s Word.
@ktermalkut83323 жыл бұрын
@@Redeemed.of.YHVH.thru.Christ Did you read the SCRIPTURES IN ACTS 2:36-39? Unless you have a different "bible?"
@ktermalkut83323 жыл бұрын
@@Redeemed.of.YHVH.thru.Christ following my initial response, I wanted to add The WORDS of The LORD Jesus in Luke 24:49 and Acts 1:8. The manifestation of the POWER He referred to occurred in Acts 2. Seeing that manifestation of people being baptized with the Holy Spirit and speaking in other Tongues, was the exchange in Acts 2:36-39. Following that initial outpouring on Pentecost, every place where the apostles ministered they saw THE SAME MANIFESTATION and interpreted it as the Gentiles receiving the GIFT of the HOLY Spirit, (which was surprising to some of them, because the belief was that only the Jews would receive that Blessing). Read Acts 10:44-48, Acts 19:1-6 as examples. Also Acts 11 where Peter explained what happened with Cornelius and the Gentiles, to the Jews.
@michaelsahai61223 жыл бұрын
@@Redeemed.of.YHVH.thru.Christ 1 Corinthians 13:1 Though I speak with the tongues of men AND of angels.... Can we be sure that angels have only one language or diversities even as men? When angels were sent to men, of course they speak in our language and not their heavenly tongues.
@angelinatitusnarain72053 жыл бұрын
And the wife and family did not know a single thing about him or were they also afraid of him?its hard to believe that they didn't. Maybe they were protecting him and their ministry???
@PrairieeGirl3 жыл бұрын
It's likely that they knew on some level. But someone like Ravi who many claimed to be charming, manipulative and found to be leading a double life, displays the attributes of being a narcissist. If that is the case, his wife was probably afraid of him. People like that work hard to manipulate and control the spouse and put fear in them that if they ever speak up no one would believe her because he had so many people under his spell with his charisma. She provided the cover he needed for his alternate life. But she was probably going through hell behind the scenes.
@elizabethcavin96053 жыл бұрын
@@PrairieeGirl Why is it "likely" they knew. I know of many instances where the wife/husband and family were the very last to know.
@PrairieeGirl3 жыл бұрын
@@elizabethcavin9605 I am not saying they knew the specific details of his "side" businesses or anything like that, but to the level that Ravi was such a deceiver, like a total double life (not just an isolated moral failure like an affair) he actually displays some attributes of a narcissist. That's what I meant. I speaking to the latter part of her comment that perhaps his wife was afraid. If you have ever done research on a narcissist or had the unfortunate experience of being involved with one, they have their public persona that usually charms everyone. But meanwhile behind the scenes they are very cruel and controlling of their spouses or significant other. And that person is left in a helpless place because no one would believe the wife if she were to say he was abusive to her.
@johnwilson37403 жыл бұрын
@@PrairieeGirl In doing so, they don't just cover up for him but betray the whole Body of Christ. The Name of the Lord is mocked.
@sharonortedschempp87598 ай бұрын
Interesting how Ravi purposely planned to have just a very limited time in having dinner with Steve Baughman, "as a control move" in keeping the time limited so that Steve wouldn't even have time to properly bring up more troubling aspects of his Ministry and Reputation. Ted Schempp, Nashville
@flowersnpearls81793 жыл бұрын
As a born again Christian and former sexual abuse victim (not Ravi’s) I have to agree with everything in this video. Sexual predators are skilled at manipulating and “grooming” their victims to the point of vulnerability. They spread a dark cloak of power from under which one feels powerless to flee. The fact that Ravi portrayed himself as an ambassador of Christ is all the more infuriating. He has brought shame and disgrace to the Church, not to mention the emotional carnage left within his victims. I am inclined to think his frequent references to back pain were excuses for the disconcerting presence of female masseuses who accompanied him. I’ve always been bothered by Christians granting celebrity status to their leaders and forming “inner circles” of privilege. Knowing the propensity of human nature toward pride, a sin God hates, it behoves us to steer clear of this deadly practice. The pretext of the gospel is that man is inherently evil and therefore, only the life, death, and resurrection of Jesus the Son of God make us acceptable in God’s sight....not intellectual prowess, not eloquence, not piety, nor charitable deeds. Jesus said to call no one “good”. We ignored that truth with Ravi which empowered him to cast a spell over his victims as well as his “fans”. He was the proverbial Angel of Light, the great masquerader. Here in the wake of this explosive scandal, we Christians ought not hide from the horrendous backlash, but rather accept it, own up to it, and learn from it.
@Sparrowlee_8 ай бұрын
That is beautifully spoken.
@richard62163 жыл бұрын
Sending strength to the victims and may you have peace. I'm saddened and angry. Bottom line, just goes to show how far mankind has fallen and that Jesus should be our focus always. God Bless you all.
@lizhing80043 жыл бұрын
His family is suffering more. Imagine the shame, guilt, pain, embarrassment etc etc etc. The victims should have spoken up when he was alive.
@richard62163 жыл бұрын
@@lizhing8004 there are so many unknowns here. Did his family know? How much did his org(rzim) already know. I'm sure they knew something. They even aided him in lying about his credentials. It is sad that people put faith in one human more than Christ.
@lizhing80043 жыл бұрын
@@richard6216 I don't know whether he lied about his credentials or not cos u can't believe everything said in the media. N some of his victims were reported to have received money from him. If it is true they are also party to the crime. They should have spoken out instead of taking money, when he was alive. Now all the shame has to be borne by the family he has left behind.
@richard62163 жыл бұрын
@@lizhing8004 as I said earlier, lotsa unknowns here. He is the perpetrator though and that's known. A lot of things could've been done and said, but we know now. Rzim must shut shop. A disgrace. I always had a feeling there was something shady about the guy when he kept talking about himself being from the "highest caste" in India. A normal, decent person would state that there's no such thing as caste. He came across as being a narcissist.
@richard62163 жыл бұрын
@Faisal Siraj Jesus Himself proclaims that He and the Father are one. It's one of the biggest mysteries about God. Three Persons, One God. Monotheism. God can't be perceived with human 'logic'. He is outside the universe. The laws of Physics, Mathematics do not apply to Him. Jesus is God. And Paul is one of the greatest New Testament evangelists. And a friend of St. Peter's.
@stellasharmini88603 жыл бұрын
Mr. Steve has bravely come forward to expose and he deserves a laud round of applause. I hope Mr.Ravi repented of all his wrong deeds before he passed away. The Bible also warns us to beware of wolves in sheeps clothings.
@faisalsiraj94233 жыл бұрын
Yeah the great warning is there ONLY if you are willing to be honest. Jesus said and foretold as COMMANDED by THE ONLY TRUE GOD - THE FATHER: *BY THE FRUITS YE SHALL KNOW THEM* Radical Monotheism exactly like the Jewish Prophets / Jews to believe in a uniquely ONE GOD - without any partners or equals or like a three in one falsehood called the doctrine of the Trinity - plus believing in the Messiah Jesus sent by God, and the essential consistency with his doctrine - the Muslim. The very words that the Father - THE ONLY TRUE GOD - COMMANDED Jesus Christ to say. The doctrine of THE ONLY TRUE GOD that HE COMMANDED Jesus Christ to give. The testimony of Jesus Christ on the Father: - The Only True God (John 17:3) - The Only One Who Knows The Hour (Mark 13:32) - Greater than I (John 14:28) - Greater than all (John 10:29) - My God and Your God (John 20:17) The doctrine of Jesus Christ = The doctrine of a Muslim. (Of course the term Father in the Jewish context. A figure of speech for their times. NOT that God has a literal Son. God has got Son by the Ton in the Bible.) Defenders of the true honor and status of Jesus Christ against lies and abominations which includes the Crucifixion. VERSUS Christianity more like the Greek and Roman doctrines and the pagan doctrines like "God" coming down in human form and human / blood sacrifice that pagans had going hand in hand with Paul's doctrines of easy fake salvation with blood of an innocent, making the Merciful God in to a blood thirsty vampire. The same people making Jesus Christ UNRIGHTEOUS by their position (believing in the fiction called Crucifixion) and making the Father a treacherous back-stabber by their position and doctrine. Christianity actually the followers of Paul. 2000 years ago, the Roman and Greek Empire with its culture and mythological and pagan roots already held the beliefs such as "God coming down in human form". So after witnessing just a single "miracle" from Paul the deceiver they were conforming to their already held beliefs. No wonder when they heard of this guy Jesus with all the stories of his miracles, it was very easy for them to take him as "Son of God" (and this concept later on developed in to taking him as God) as this already went hand in hand with their pagan and mythological belief system. Little wonder that those times and those places and people also had "Triads" and ancient "Trinities" and "God" in threes and stuff. Acts 14:11 When the crowd saw what Paul had done, they shouted in the Lycaonian language, "THE GODS HAVE COME DOWN to us IN HUMAN FORM!" *********** Then of course the abomination of the alleged human "sacrifice" of Jesus Christ making the Most Merciful in to some human blood thirsty vampire. Going against the very teachings of the true Prophets and that includes Jesus Christ. ******** Unfortunately, it was the Pauline Christianity and Pauline falsehoods, blended with pagan doctrine and backed up by the powerful Empire that eventually won out over the years and wiped out the Jewish movement of radical monotheism.
@faisalsiraj94233 жыл бұрын
@💜 "The Holy Spirit" isn't supposed to make YOU a coward to hide under the skirt of YOUR Lord Dav1d W0LF, is it? 🤔
@faisalsiraj94233 жыл бұрын
@💜 Your evasion and aversion on the *Trinity-DESTROYING* testimony of Jesus in John 17:3 is expected. You however are not the first one who has been distressed by the very testimony of Jesus. Your evasion is expected. *In actuality you are AGAINST Jesus by your position and doctrine* So when the very testimony of Jesus is right in front of you, it's causing you a lot of trouble on the inside. It's happened for centuries and centuries with the likes of you having a disdain for the testimony of Jesus. 🚩 *The Church Fathers went so far as to MUTILATE the very testimony of Jesus in their writings and preaching and the results are right in front of you. The testimony of Jesus is right in front of you BUT You've kept a 1000 miles distance from it as if it's not the testimony of Jesus BUT a PLAGUE to YOU* The clear and emphatic, *Trinity-DESTROYING* , unitarian monotheism of John 17:3 gave so much trouble to the Church as we see in the writings of early patristic authorities as they encounter the verse. One such patristic figure was the Doctor of the Church** Augustine. He just could not digest the explicit and emphatic Trinity-Destroying testimony of Jesus in John 17:3 that he attempted to MUTILATE the whole thing completely so that it would place Jesus side by side with the Father and together they would be declared “the only true God.” Dissatisfied with what John 17:3 says, Augustine writes the following in Tractate 105 of his Homilies on the Gospel of John: “But this, saith He, is life eternal, that they may know Thee [the Father] the only true God, and Jesus Christ, Whom Thou hast sent. The [proper] order of the words is: “That Thee [the Father] and Jesus Christ whom Thou hast sent, they may know to be the only true God.” The clear and emphatic unitarian message of John 17:3 was far too disagreeable to Augustine that he was willing to completely MUTILATE what was there in the scripture. And he was NOT ALONE in such an irresponsible enterprise. THE ONLY TRUE GOD - THE FATHER - exposes such kind and destroys such abominations that you Christians attribute to HIM and Jesus.
@faisalsiraj94233 жыл бұрын
@💜 Did YOUR master Dav1d W0LF tell YOU about the 🚩 RAPE of the Trinity-DESTROYING testimony of Jesus (John 17:3) by the Church Fathers in their writings and preaching????? 🤔
@janjamesramos2473 жыл бұрын
Ravi too needed Jesus but it was too late. He ignored God's call for repentance.
@steinadleradler34313 жыл бұрын
If he was so empty inside how about other godly men?
@janjamesramos2473 жыл бұрын
@@steinadleradler3431 I believe it's a case by case basis. I already sensed before that he is just good in talking and somehow lacking on the spiritual side when he discuss things. Just my honest opinion.
@nicolettecoetzee73393 жыл бұрын
@@steinadleradler3431 he was not godly.
@steinadleradler34313 жыл бұрын
@@nicolettecoetzee7339 until before this broke out he was. what do you think he was?
@babafemiladipo25193 жыл бұрын
In Your Journey with the Holyspirit, the first Lesson we all should never forget is "never to stop listening to ourself" most times the Spirit Of God speaks to us by Speaking through Us. Sadly RAVI STOPPED LISTENING TO HIMSELF
@angelabrook24543 жыл бұрын
Someone told me to listen to a video of this “great” Christian teacher. I watched one video and concluded that I was not going to watch anymore. Something he said (sarcastically) about his wife didn’t sit right with me.
@autumnacker53103 жыл бұрын
Do you recall what he said?
@successflowstome3 жыл бұрын
Ironically, my biggest problem here is why show a knife digging into a piece of meat whenever the word 'dinner' is mentioned? *Looks like dinner is the key here*
@granny583 жыл бұрын
It's so weird and out of place.
@yolette82623 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣
@christinelitvak64273 жыл бұрын
Years ago I had a acquaintance with a college professor who was a prominent person in his community. He was off the charts charming, gravitating to shy girls. He flattered them and when they blushed and sighed in gratitude for his attention, he knew he had his next conquest lined up. He spent a lot of time doing volunteer work for the blind and when he died, his wife had a library named after him. She knew about his other life but I think she just had to soothe her memory of him.
@larrym99463 жыл бұрын
RZIM needs to close up shop. All of them are complicit in Ravi's actions.
@susammageorge11283 жыл бұрын
Very true. They are one satan created organisation. If they are truly repentant they will close it
@h.67253 жыл бұрын
The same people will open up another ministry with another name. 😀😀😀
@UniqueSundials3 жыл бұрын
It has premierchristian.news/en/news/article/rzim-canada-announces-it-is-closing-down-following-ravi-zacharias-scandal
@imgmakr3 жыл бұрын
Quite the contrary. From what I have seen there were clues to what was going on but nothing all that alarming. They were douped. And the way they have handled things,IMO, is redemptive. They have invested in the investigation of the claims, been very open and allowed the evidence to go where it lead. And in the end have been very repentive over the scandal. They are helping the victims in anyway they can and have been very open to the public with it all.
@larrym99463 жыл бұрын
@@imgmakr They were duped only because they blind-trusted Ravi and did not question anything.
@melleetheka3 жыл бұрын
I guess that look Ravi gave is the same Obama, Clinton’s, Coumo etc give those who question them.
@JonathanNYCity3 жыл бұрын
And Turmp too. Don't forget about him.
@johnnyc48243 жыл бұрын
God used an atheist to expose Ravi just as He used the Babylonians to punish the ancient Israelites.
@angelakatsapas78943 жыл бұрын
Exactly.
@shemanereddy3 жыл бұрын
You are joking right
@danielholmes22123 жыл бұрын
@@shemanereddy - uhhh no... definitely not joking.
@MrReasonabubble3 жыл бұрын
Can't you just give an atheist credit for having some insight?
@godandsarah13063 жыл бұрын
Wow, Ravi lied about Cambridge and Oxford credentials?! Yikes, that is certainly on RZIM.
@Zerpentsa65983 жыл бұрын
Indians are still proud of him. Even in his 70s, his libido was still strong. Now the hypocrites who drolled over him are now trying to distance themselves.
@sanketrohini43503 жыл бұрын
The problem with people is the older they get the more uncivilized they become. Ravi should have quit the ministry long ago because he was a false preacher and a fraud mainly interested in pursuing his own interest - which is what ev@erybody else does, but he shouldn't portray himself as something other than what he was.
@utamu7773 жыл бұрын
lol
@annescholl4203 жыл бұрын
God will be his judge! 🙏✝️
@ryuhayabusa52223 жыл бұрын
Narcisists can be very nice but if u call them out some will scream at u all about them many just want an ear to hear but r totally not interested in you Jekyl n Hyde they r always right they criticize others but if u critisize them they go off on u best to just stop all contact when u can, God is exposing theserich false prophets which I beleive he was good interview
@Sparrowlee_8 ай бұрын
That is the look that victims get before an assault. It so sad what they experienced.
@lindac25543 жыл бұрын
Important interview. Thankyou
@madlove23393 жыл бұрын
The reason they stay in RZIM are for the money and status no. SIMPLE
@philipgopal75943 жыл бұрын
Mad love you are right it's all about money and money.
@JudeBritt3 жыл бұрын
Wait when the donations stop coming and speakerships of those identified with RZIM dries out.
@jasminekhoo13643 жыл бұрын
Simple solution: focus on Jesus. Read the Bible.
@sharplikecheddar23 жыл бұрын
Boom! Thousands of hours of commentary and philosophical discussion are not needed. Jesus, Jesus, Jesus.
@anayetanayet71133 жыл бұрын
Which bible u r talking about? *Who should pay the price of Ravi Zachariya's sex scandle* If, u still say Jesus paid Ravi Zacharias sins then you need psychiatrists!*
@gracelatour34413 жыл бұрын
Those without en explanation for their misconduct will always discredit those who speak the truth!
@krisward77203 жыл бұрын
My stepfather was an agnostic although I didn't agree with him on much he said the last refuge of a scoundrel is to hide out in the church. Sadly there is some profound truth in that statement for some.
@Frostx-t7m3 жыл бұрын
If Ravi turned up Steve baughman what about us guys 😂
@mickysureanto38723 жыл бұрын
His arrogance also his downfall...
@saintleslie3 жыл бұрын
There was no downfall per se. The fellow never rose to fall. A serial sexual predator just marketed himself as an apologist, and those who didn't know any better fell for him.
@victoriagertrudelazarus62693 жыл бұрын
Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me. John 14:6 Ravi has passed on but Jesus is alive! The way I see it, RZIM and more importantly Ravi's family needs to come clean, retribution to the real victims...etc. Let's do the right thing! For the time has come for judgment to begin at the house of God; and if it begins with us first, what will be the end of those who do not obey the gospel of God? Now “If the righteous one is scarcely saved, Where will the ungodly and the sinner appear?” I Peter 4:17-18
@Zerpentsa65983 жыл бұрын
No chance. They're playing the "victim card" and slapping the face of real victims.
@orientalshorthair55793 жыл бұрын
I agree Victoria Gertrude Lazarus. It's high time the Christian community as a whole stopped enabling such wickedness, both in terms of sins committed and move to cover it up and play the victim card.
@steinadleradler34313 жыл бұрын
the question is why he himself did not believe in what he preached. all the big words and lofty theologies look a mere facade.
@sunshinegirl19673 жыл бұрын
I think if his family want to be believed, that they are victims, then they should make a statement. It's been said that his wife resisted giving over his cell phones during the investigation. His daughter appeared on James Robison's show but I don't know if that has happened since the investigation or before.
@melaniewaldman30443 жыл бұрын
Some get into religion for the money!!! Use God their intelligence etc etc etc and others to preach a good talk but not walk it! I really don’t know much about him, but one of his 25 minute messages I liked a lot and almost went to more till I found out about this scandal. I’m disappointed in the deceased Ravi! May the Lord have mercy on his soul. May God heal his victims.
@annebritraaen22373 жыл бұрын
I think he lost his way, and no one corrected him. Probably because he wasn't very scriptural. He didn't give me The Word, only intellectual reasons for my faith. It didn't help me grow.
@claresailing3 жыл бұрын
@@annebritraaen2237 Well said. I listened to him twice and it was the biggest waste of my time.
@zatoichiable3 жыл бұрын
They say never eat the food offered by an evil man... and bribe you to agree with him and feel ashame to confront him...
@janegeorge59053 жыл бұрын
It is very unfair and cowardly to talk about someone who is not there to defend himself!
@zatoichiable3 жыл бұрын
@@janegeorge5905 who is the victim, ravi or his victims...
@katharinebuckman28153 жыл бұрын
Actually, attempts to confront RZIM were nade for several yrs., and were thwarted
@Blackgrass13 жыл бұрын
My problem is not this guy (hardly ever listened to him anyway) but the huge amount of gullible Christians.
@ericbrown62033 жыл бұрын
This isn't gullibility believing reasonable things that happened to be false.
@self-publishinghelp85963 жыл бұрын
He was a very good actor. Had most of us fooled.
@kiabvaj56563 жыл бұрын
I wasn't fooled. Religions always have these 3 things in them: power, money and sex.
@ktermalkut83323 жыл бұрын
Getting Saved under Acts 2:36-38 is core. We cannot understand the spiritual with our human reasoning - that is scripture not my opinion. Read Romans 8:5-8, 1Corinthians 2:9-16 Without the Baptism of the Holy Spirit with the evidence of speaking in other Tongues, it is impossible to have spiritual discernment. I listened to ravi once and knew he was a tool of satan who was misleading many. Absolute confirmation of the scriptures in 1Timothy 4 and 2Timothy 4 where people will be seduced by lying spirits and doctrines of demons, and will collect to themselves teachers who please them / give them itching ears.
@kiabvaj56563 жыл бұрын
@@ktermalkut8332 I guess only Pentecostals are saved? The rest of the Christian denominations are doomed?
@stevemcc44473 жыл бұрын
I’ve been working with the military and special operators in different ways for 30 years. I’ve been on staff at three mega churches in various capacities. I spent 3 hours with Ravi for lunch in DC. i’ve seen this kind of thing happen several times. Christian ministries tend to be disorganized and naïve. Just this morning, I was talking with my son, who wants to be in ministry, about having that special operator mentality. Build a team. Think like a team. Think like a brotherhood. Watch your brothers six. Have a clear mission. Have a plan. Cross train. Understand every nuance of your weapon. Stay focused. Demand integrity. Demand responsibility. When you see your brother going sideways, call him out on it, immediately. If he makes excuses, he shows weakness and will hurt the team. the mission is more important than the man. Send him to another team. If you’re working in a ministry where the leader is really a dictator, shows signs of self-centeredness, remove him, or find a different place to minister. Because, trust me, the ministry will go sideways.
@kurtanderson50233 жыл бұрын
EXACTLY. Thank you for instructing for your son about this.
@jjmonty809011 ай бұрын
Very encouraging words to a pastor.
@Campbellteaching3 жыл бұрын
Don't put adds in your videos, this shows you are trying to make money. Is it not more important to you to get the message out? Your attempts to make money, in my view, undermines your communication.
@UroborosX13 жыл бұрын
Baughman is a hero and should get more recognition for this
@kurtanderson50233 жыл бұрын
Ravi had a way of “tickling the ears of his audience.” They loved his stories, marveled at the wisdom in his Q&A, were enthralled by his accent that sounded “intellectual.” I used to be one of those in his audience. I will remember his name forever but only as a cautionary reminder. That is his legacy now.
@marktorres81142 жыл бұрын
The one thing I remember about RZ .is he bought his idea to a resolve
@stevetatchell55713 жыл бұрын
Dr. Baughman seems very sincere and credible. Too bad his dinner\interview with Ravi hadn't been on camera.
@ManuGeorge7773 жыл бұрын
Dr. Baughman? Did he get an honorary doctorate too?
@lizhing80043 жыл бұрын
I want to know what was the piece of evidence that u asked him??
@Chic_N_Greece3 жыл бұрын
For those saying this only happened after Ravi's death means you weren't paying attention. Years ago, fellow Christians tried to warn you but you ignored them because of Ravi's popularity. If you aren't more discerning, then you will be deceived by another false teacher. We are to be DOERS & not just hearers of the Word.
@ktermalkut83323 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@buzzclark3 жыл бұрын
Well hey man, they didn't serve desert !!!! That's the whole problem.
@Annie261.3 жыл бұрын
“Dessert”
@nathanielriesterer91033 жыл бұрын
No dessert is a big red flag.
@dr.b9233 жыл бұрын
It wasn't just that he led a double life, he became (Demonized). Demons are very aware of and in tune to someone who reveals even the slightest hint of exposing them. God didn't even give him time to repent, that should tell you something about how God felt about Him. Rev.22v11 Let him who is evil continue to be evil.
@wisewoman49503 жыл бұрын
Actually he had a lot of time to repent. Don't you think so? If you knew you had a terminal disease... I think that's God's mercy. The only thing is that it was likely rejected.
@dr.b9233 жыл бұрын
@@wisewoman4950 true repentance can only be accomplished when we completely humble ours before God. Basically, I don't think God offers the unjust (reprobate mind) the opportunity to repent. We can only hope that he wasn't too far gone but it doesn't look that way
@dr.b9233 жыл бұрын
@💜 if the second half is not true, then expose the truth and tell us what you know about him.
@howlingwaters27413 жыл бұрын
@@dr.b923 What??? A sick mind excludes one from the chance to repent? I'd appreciate a biblical confirmation.
@dr.b9233 жыл бұрын
@@howlingwaters2741 Sorry you seem to be struggling with this concept. Start out by reading Romans 11v20-23 Without repentance there is no salvation. Please don't blindly question me. It's a waist of time, when you don't use God's word to reciprocate.
@clynton85383 жыл бұрын
The fact remains that Ravi the person was fallible but Ravi the apologist and his teachings will remain and inspire millions. The attorney in question who is an atheist went after Ravi the person while Ravi the apologist always had his best replies and explanations on the incoherence of atheism...
@paulblattner59423 жыл бұрын
Ravi may well have been as psychopath. So very sad.
@jacketrussell3 жыл бұрын
God made him a psychopath.
@JMD6213 жыл бұрын
@@jacketrussell oh Jack. smh
@designark58963 жыл бұрын
But why all after Ravi's death???😞
@sarahpiaggio26933 жыл бұрын
It's interesting how, as soon as someone is exposed like this, everyone comes out to say how they never liked him, or they saw through him. We all have to show that we're more intelligent or wiser than the next person. It's like when we hear about some conman that fooled a lot of people out of their savings, or a serial wife-abuser. We all like to think we wouldn't be taken in (and underneath that assumption lurks the idea that it's the victim's fault). But the point of someone like this is that they're convincing, charming and disarming, (as demonstrated by the conversation with this lawyer). There's no shame in having been tricked by a confidence trickster. The shame is on HIM for his deception. (People who get caught in an abusive marriage aren't guilty of being "stupid" either). The point is that churches and ministries have to have checks and balances and systems of accountability so that conmen CAN'T carry out their cons under our very noses and bring the Name of Jesus into disrepute.
@johnwilson37403 жыл бұрын
Actually it's the way Christians have been taught to look up to our leaders without question. So even if a believer felt something was amiss, he or she would keep quiet to not look like a rebel. There is almost no accountability of church leadership to it's sheep. It's the same as in human corporate relationships. This is what the world in the Church. Both members must submit to leaders and vice versa in the fear of the Lord. Thus when the fault of ministers becomes public, the sheep become casualties. They live with pain, guilt, confusion and regret of a genuine Christian act of submitting to their leader. I think there is nothing wrong many are speaking up about their qualms now since Ravi is dead and gone. To put it bluntly, they feel free to express themselves now.
@zephanyruthantonio94293 жыл бұрын
Why are they only speaking now that he died? And he can't defend himself. Christians, see to it that you don't question his heart because you can't read nor analyze it. And now we are giving too much attention to that without giving the accused a benifit of the doubt. And showing him love and mercy. I know you are all crying for justice but see to it that you are not a pharisees and hypocrite. Because if truly Ravi is guilty of such sin then, he must face the wrath of God and if he is not Guilty, then you are the one who is. Grace to you.
@CountItAllJoy3 жыл бұрын
Ephesians 5:11 Have no part in the things that people in darkness do, which produce nothing good. Instead, tell everyone how wrong those things are.
@joshgonzales15993 жыл бұрын
No justification for sin is sin, but I ask how many of us here bashing will die with clean hands? When we lust the word says it’s the same as adultry, no different than what Ravi did. Again not justifying what he did but if God where to show our sins to the world we all will be humiliated in one sin or another. May God have mercy on Ravi, the victims, and may God bring restoration to the body of Christ and the world.
@Helen-vq3uj3 жыл бұрын
Even the apostle Paul called out sexual sin and used it as an example to warn others. We must expose darkness to light-especially when this person is a leader. I agree bashing is wrong, but exposure and teachings from this is exactly what a Christian should promote.
@estherodanga42383 жыл бұрын
As we seek mercy, what about the victims?
@cmcapps19633 жыл бұрын
@@estherodanga4238 I think Mr. Gonzales addressed that perfectly when he ended by asking for God's mercy on THEM as well. We are all victims AND perpetrators according to God's Word. Not in every circumstance or interaction, and I'm certainly not saying that Ravis victims "deserved" what happened to them in any way. Neither will our victim hood absolve us on the Day of Judgment. Only God's mercy through Jesus's blood can do that. I think he made that point quite well.
@daniell57403 жыл бұрын
Don't lust simple
@joshgonzales15993 жыл бұрын
@@daniell5740 a man that believes he no longer can fall into the temptation of lust is the last person I personally would trust. King David “a man after Gods heart” the only one who had that title shows what lust did to him, this is the one temptation God does not comand to fight but to “flee” run away. So I agree let’s do our best not to lust but as for you saying simple as that. I wonder if that’s what Ravi use to think 🤔. Don’t make challenges that God won’t put you to the test my brotha stay blessed 🙏
@ptwarari3 жыл бұрын
Psalms 5:9 (KJV) For there is no faithfulness in their mouth; their inward part is very wickedness; their throat is an open sepulchre; they flatter with their tongue. Charm while scheming evil! May the Lord grant us all a discerning spirit. These wolves in sheep's clothing are everywhere. Luckily for me he was too complicated; as someone said here 'word salad'. The Antichrist spirit is busy at work, trying to turn us all against Christ, if that is possible. Deception is the name of the game. KNOW THE WORD OF GOD for yourself.
@bennyzachariah85723 жыл бұрын
Hello Dr.Baughman, with all due credit to all your research concerning Ravi, could it be that God allowed this mess (God didn't ordain it for sure), for your sake, for you to be saved?
@jamaeze663 жыл бұрын
I believe he was sincere in the beginning but like many people who are feted and celebrated it soon takes over. He is not the only person purporting to preach Christ that has abused the privilege.
@sergiosatelite4673 жыл бұрын
Gods away on business.
@DrewS7772 жыл бұрын
Vilifying people who call them out is standard procedure of cult type leaders. I’ve been to many churches with cult of personality as the theme. The hypocrisy and manipulation is impossible to describe unless you experience it. Many churches have cultic leaders who preach a theologically accurate Gospel.
@eliasmatthews79523 жыл бұрын
Ravi never preached the gospel...he is good in explaining things philosophically and make things make sense to where it seems so but proper discernment will reveal that he never did.
@amazinggrace49243 жыл бұрын
The seed of every sin is in every heart.
@ktermalkut83323 жыл бұрын
not in the hearts of those who are TRULY BORN AGAIN OF THE SPIRIT OF THE LORD JESUS CHRIST. We are as HE IS, on this earth - 1John 4:17 yes, if you have a form of religion that denies The Power of The LORD and His Holy Spirit, you can believe your comment's nonsense. Read 2Timothy 3:5.
@danielrutigliano79383 жыл бұрын
@@ktermalkut8332 there is therefore now no sin to those who are in Christ Jesus,who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. -Romans 8:1. Right?
@ktermalkut83323 жыл бұрын
@@danielrutigliano7938 if a person is truly BORN AGAIN OF THE SPIRIT OF THE LORD they cannot sin and automatically walk in the Spirit because their sin is already paid for. They are walking in The LORD Jesus being in His Body and He is ALWAYS WALKING IN THE SPIRIT. If a person has an inclination to sin, they are NOT Truly Born again from their spirit. If they have compulsions like addictions, after they are BORN AGAIN which they will know and want to get rid of, they need DELIVERANCE FROM demons and those demons should be cast out or their hold over the person should be destroyed. We are saved through The BLOOD of The LORD Jesus who has PAID THE PRICE FOR ALL SIN - PAST PRESENT AND FUTURE. The walking after the spirit phrase is impossible to be otherwise for someone who is TRULY BORN AGAIN OF THE SPIRIT OF THE LORD. If you miss it even slightly you have NO Peace within and your immediate/automatic desire is to get right with The LORD. Your spirit is ONE with His and you can say in that situation I and My Father are ONE. The Bible refers to people whose consciences are seared which would apply to those who are not saved/Born Again of The Spirit of The LORD, and are being warned of their misdirection, and they refuse to change their course. I am speaking from my own reality. I have a Personal Relationship with The LORD GOD, was Baptised in His HOLY Spirit with the Evidence of speaking/praying in other Tongues and have prayed in Tongues for close to 20 years - seen many miracles/Blessings, discern demons, know my Authority in The LORD Jesus Who has taught me all I write/talk about. The confidence I have, in writing or speaking the way I do, comes from Him. I care nothing for my reputation unless His Reputation is the UTMOST PRIORITY and I walk in total Submission to and Humility in His Will. I am a Glove upon My Father's Hand while in His Gift to me, I walk in My Father's Shoes! satan wanted to be like GOD. His Children are Just like Him because He made them as Himself - they are not His Children who try to usurp His Authority by their own idols of self will and human reasoning. Their father is satan because they hate what He Honors - John 8:44.
@bramblecino3 жыл бұрын
Amazing grace. U shut up with your gospel crap
@ktermalkut83323 жыл бұрын
@@bramblecino get help! seek deliverance from demons - if you repent and call out to The LORD JESUS CHRIST He will help you. The BLOOD OF THE LORD JESUS CHRIST HAS DEFEATED EVERY DEMON. you are satanic to the core and drugs are to make you lose your mind because it is only with a lost mind that demons can enter. I looked at your profile and your videos, satanic bible burning will destroy you. satan comes to KILL, STEAL AND DESTROY - The Words of The LORD Jesus in John 10:10.
@reniervanrooyen17043 жыл бұрын
The Lord said, "Do not be deceived, God is not mocked, for whatsoever a man sows, that shall he reap" Our first responsibility is to make sure that we stand righteous before the Lord, not others. There is nothing to gain by justifying those who have lived righteously or condemning those who did not. Why? For we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ, to give account of what we have done in the body, whether good or bad! On the other hand, there are many false teachers and impersonators in the Church who should be exposed, especially when they pose a danger to society. But there is no benefit to do so when they have ceased. This course of action is normally taken when the accused is guilty of criminal actions that continues to persist. As believers, there has to be a yardstick by which every case is measured. So, which yardstick has been applied in this case, if any? And if there is any merit in doing so, what do we hope to achieve? The aim should never be to denigrate or to vilify. If we (believers) learn from the mistakes and failures of others that helps us to grow personally and to edify the Church as well, then we have done well. But if we place ourselves on a pedestal to destroy others, it is something we will regret very dearly!!,
@deonfelix64623 жыл бұрын
Well said sir....
@luciadagdagan69909 ай бұрын
That is the problem because fellow Indians allowed Ravi to do harm to a lot of women for money.
@lindachan31153 жыл бұрын
Dr. Jekyll and Mr Hyde. He's scary.
@garysweeten51962 жыл бұрын
Ravi was a “perfect” example of a conman. Smooth, attractive, manipulative, without a conscience, powerfully evil.
@dddoyle3 жыл бұрын
The abuser establishes their power with one event and will maintain power with one ‘look’.
@mordechaijones46693 жыл бұрын
Read 2 Samuel 13. Like Amnon on it took many accomplices to help Ravi in his sin.
@stuartmenziesfarrant3 жыл бұрын
Btw, commenters, if God didn’t use sinners in ministry, there would be no church!
@jenniferdelice43023 жыл бұрын
So true, we are all sinners saved by grace, perfecting holiness in the fear of God. However, your statement does not apply to those like Ravi, he was a wolf in sheep's clothing. A very immoral man, who used and abused woman. Why God did not kill him, tells me of the long suffering and mercy oh God. Why his peers and equals who suspected him did not confront him, they will make that right with God.
@ZandarKoad3 жыл бұрын
I'm just gunna throw this out there: RZIM may have been directly financing sex trafficking from Bangkok and other places. It's plausible given Ravi's charisma, resources, connections, and extended time periods spent in areas of the world renowned for the sex trade. This should be investigated.
@lilafeldman86303 жыл бұрын
The meek shall I inherit the earth.
@fionabattrum70713 жыл бұрын
Why did he mention that she was “ also part Indian “ ? What is the significance of that ? Why include that detail?
@tamarawhiteurst87273 жыл бұрын
Because Ravi was Indian too.
@marynieder82643 жыл бұрын
Oh, Boo-hoo. Knock off the stupid attempt at PC. You are what's wrong with exposure and dealing with truth.
@fionabattrum70713 жыл бұрын
@@tamarawhiteurst8727 so what ? Hahaha
@iwantyourcookiesnow3 жыл бұрын
Indians invented Kama Sutra. Ask a stupid question...
@irongolemalert3 жыл бұрын
Yes I thought that too. Odd.
@stewartvailalo19623 жыл бұрын
Ravis message was biblical and brought on by the holy spirit or the problem is that you put your trust in Ravi the man. Did Ravi die for you on the cross. Don't be fooled by the enemy. Remember the power of the message not the person if you trust was in the person the message will have no power if your trust was in the message not the person than Jesus eternity will be in your heart. Be careful brothers and sisters in Christ God is allowing the enemy to sift you. This message here is from the enemy to doubt your faith. Pray for discernment and wisdom. God bless
@JudeBritt3 жыл бұрын
Looking at things now, I believe that Ravi did his ministry out of his own fleshly strength, self-righteousness, self-dependence and self-sufficiency. The fact that he was never part of a local church and subject to pastoral oversight, his spiritual walk did not involve accountability.
@PatriotMomof53 жыл бұрын
Ravi was a con man. He will have to give account for his unrepentant sins.
@ΦΡΑΝΣΟΥΑΖΠΑΝΑΓΙΩΤΙΔΟΥ3 жыл бұрын
WELL SAID, MR BAUGHMAN!!!
@happy777abc9 ай бұрын
Ravi was ab extreeeeeeeeme narcissist I suspect.
@mossie19542 жыл бұрын
Indeed Ravi never sat well with me. I was always uncomfortable watching him and could not understand 'why'? I knew thousands of people loved him...Yet I was just this older woman who could not settle in my spirit when watching anything he talked about. It felt like I was watching to be honest someone who was an (imposter)...I then knew after years of my feelings about him, of course just my spirit was uneasy...It made sense. We all live and learn even in later life.
@yulialexandra4448 ай бұрын
Basically he was a malignant narcissist.
@joyalways11793 жыл бұрын
Yes, if you stand by and watch a liar/sex addict do his thing, you are at fault too. I married one, I know. He was so charming and kind. After 33 years of praying and hoping he wld repent, he finally did. It took the loss of our marriage.
@lauren44343 жыл бұрын
Infinite respect and blessings of Christ to you......... Nothing is lost, I think I know a tiny bit of what you lived with all those lonely years.
@joyalways11793 жыл бұрын
@@lauren4434 blessings friend, pray for me, I will pray for you!
@lauren44343 жыл бұрын
@@joyalways1179 I will, very much so, (S)he whom the Son sets free is free indeed I've been through it too, and all is well! ❤️
@lauren44343 жыл бұрын
@@joyalways1179 For healing, I began running in the mountains, up hills, for miles, before dawn. Even in snowstorms, I am out running before 6 a.m. I am now training for my first marathon. I am learning to take exquisite care of myself, it feels so good. Linking arms with you girl, in Spirit. life is good! 🌸 🙏 🔥
@joyalways11793 жыл бұрын
@@lauren4434 I have been running my whole life too! Was an athlete 🏃♀️and yes like Ester, prepare ourselves for The King.
@NomadOutOfAfrica3 жыл бұрын
Not sin. What he did was criminal. Disgraceful that all those Christians blowing his trumpet just didn’t notice.
@gaildrake59403 жыл бұрын
Shameful one wonders if Ravi truly believed in God because you would think he would be afraid of His WRATH
@ktermalkut83323 жыл бұрын
I doubt he ever did
@drdavidtee3 жыл бұрын
Bukk crap. the labeling of Mr. Zacharias's behavior is wrong and this is only one side of the story