Steve Jobs | Steve Jobs vs. Wozniak

[@brandonxing9546]

What I like about the watch scene is how it shows the two different approaches to technology - Woz is interested in the functionality and the technology aspect of the watch, and Jobs is immediately interested in the pragmatic and social aspects of the watch. Neither are particularly wrong about their viewpoints, it's just a nice metaphor for how both men looked at what technology can do for people.

[@P2501-y6u]

Also has the same function as the current apple watch haha

[@john_drennon]

There was definite friction, but this is how true innovation works. Woz has always been focused on what technology was capable of. Jobs was always interested in what humans were capable of when aided by technology. He saw the human as a flawed creation and technology as the bridge to perfection. Woz was the one who could build the bridge. Jobs was the one who could find the correct place to build it.

[@MynameisBrianZX]

Which makes for an approachable film theme, but it's a laughable exaggeration for a personal computer engineer of all people to be satisfied with end users taking a device apart and poking it with a pen to accomplish something as simple as incrementing the hours value. The rest of the film is more nuanced, but it's still an oversimplified and exaggerated depiction of various people's contributions.

[@Dr.TJ_Eckleburg]

Exactly. The brilliance of this film is that in all the arguments between Jobs and Wozniak, both are right and both are wrong. You clearly see things from both sides and you understand where both are coming from. It's impossible for the audience to really take a side because both men have points that are perfectly valid.

[@johngreen2468]

its definitely trivialized the way its shown here but its interesting enough depiction of this phenomenon

[@moviescatsmargs]

10 years later, I'm still blown away by how good Seth Rogen is in this movie. Reciting Sorkin dialogue is not for everyone but his back and forth with Fassbender is electric in every scene.

[@Jason_Abadi]

Seth absolutely COOKED in this role

[@jsembler1]

That Lisa doesn’t remember Woz is the perfect metaphor for how badly he wants to be remembered for the Apple II. Such great writing.

[@d1p70]

Huh what? I don't think you will find a single Apple fan alive today who does not know who Woz is. Unless you mean the gen alpha tiktoker crowd born yesterday.

or about how best friends could raise a child and the child not know the name of the best friend. the poor child being raised by other people and the father caring more about his company then the thing that means the most in life because when you are lying on your death bed all the money in the world, all the recognition doesnt mean a gosh darn thing. The only thing that really matters is who is beside you in the moment you need them the most.

[@Starwebs]

All the performances in this movie were absolutely phenomenal. Michael Fassbender as Steve Jobs was out of this world. Seth Rogen really surprised me as well.

[@Simone-Bucn]

Fassbender was absolutely robbed at all the award shows that year. Beaten by an over-rated pretty boy, who grunts for 3 hours 🤦

[@Simone-Bucn]

@SaleemFrazer DiCaprio, one of the worst actors in Hollywood history.

[@thrillhouse4784]

Yeah they nailed it. No awards. Such a great film

[@thrillhouse4784]

​@@Simone-Bucnyou could do worse

[@2crude2crudeofficialband3]

@@Starwebs Yeah but this is a fictional portrayal of real events. Almost nothing in this film happened as it’s portrayed. Kind of like Disney’s Pocahontas, it’s a fiction loosely based on real events with real historical characters. Sometimes they even get the year right.

[@michaelrlomax1977]

Good film, like the concept of it being focused around the launch events.

[@crippledcrusader1321]

“You’re gonna have a stroke little buddy” and yet Steve called Woz is close friend yet talked to him like that

[@jamesdavis7426]

lighten up. its a damn movie. not the gospel of Jobs

[@joewhitehead3]

Pretty sure that’s how Steve Jobs spoke to people

[@dropkickirish4449]

@@jamesdavis7426It’s a character analysis… which is what people do on public forums from time to time, in case it flew over your head.

[@ColemanJRimer]

@@joewhitehead3 Yeah, he was a total jerk who didn't do anything but front for a bunch of geniuses who didn't have the social skills. He wasn't a genius. He was just a good front man.

[@joewhitehead3]

@@ColemanJRimer I thought he was like an idea man

[@bryan15505]

I wonder how Apple would’ve been if Wozniak stayed 🤔

[@travisbickle4360]

Not much. Wozniak was too much of a nice guy and Jobs would have just ignored him

[@Brainwarts99]

It would have blown up a lot sooner if you ask me, the Apple Lisa and Macintosh wouldn’t have been failures because they would have been developed by actual engineers and innovators similar to the Apple II.

[@Archelaus_v]

Woz wasn’t a good businessman and could’ve ruined Apple - ironically interviews I heard he sounds bitter and resentful towards Steve almost like Rogan captured him. Steve understood simplicity and ultimately how that would change the market - that’s why Steve will always be remembered and Woz will fade away with the geeks

[@Couldthinkofabettername]

Technically Wozniak is still with Apple.

[@amorantoboy]

​@@Archelaus_vwhat a delusional take. The longer we get away from Jobs legacy the more we see how opportunistic and lucky he was. Woz actually created things. Jobs used it to build a company. That's the whole point of this scene. He sold himself as an idea man, but all he really turned out to be was a smooth talker

[@grapelund]

Steve bought him to that room just to deliver the orchestra dig…diabolical work!!!

[@LoganWood121]

"Excuse me, flight attendant, the man next to me would appear to be detonating a bomb." 😂

[@n_v9386]

6:24 Love that he says "if it crashes it crashes" about the NeXT when he was pissed about the voice demo crash earlier, because he doesn't really care about the NeXT computer, just getting acquired by Apple.

[@samiafeddahi6381]

I loved this movie so much, watching it was great for me. 🙃

[@saidaboudou4179]

Can you ask a question?

[@alohakat1148]

I loved Seth Rogan in this

[@2crude2crudeofficialband3]

This scene was totally inaccurate. Woz made it clear in his autobiography that he wasn’t angry at Apple when he left. He just wanted to move on to the next thing. This scene is total fiction.

[@Yodah97]

The entire movie is fiction. The Woz scenes seem to be the most fake in general. They were more of a plot device. On the flipside, just because someone wrote something in their book, that doesn't mean it's true. Autobiographies are particularly sketchy as they're often ghostwritten and strategically planned to help boost people's careers.

[@2crude2crudeofficialband3]

@@Yodah97 That’s true, but Woz is kind of an introvert and not at all concerned about fame or fortune. He’s richer than god already and gives away a lot of his money to schools and museums. He never wanted to be anything but an engineer and an educator. He doesn’t have a massive ego like Steve Jobs, and his career needs no help at all. Seth Rogan is awesome but this is not an accurate portrayal of Woz, and the events in this scene never happened.

[@2crude2crudeofficialband3]

@@Yodah97 Yeah but Woz is a pretty honest guy and doesn’t like it when people lie, especially whopper lies. Maybe but I doubt it.

[@TK-xi4vn]

Wozniak said he really liked the movie and when asked about its accuracy he said, “none of this happened but everything is true” which really shows what Sorkin was trying to do with this movie

[@spacefaringyoshi]

Yeah? This is a movie, as in a Dramatization. Do you think when Shakespeare made Julius Caesar he gave af about if it was historically accurate?

[@DamienDrake2940]

People aware of the world around them hate Jobs because instead of making technology for the betterment of humanity, he made it to expand his ego. Can anyone honestly say that technology has improved our lives in the almost 25 years this scene was set in?

[@boobootittleman7299]

3:36 lol

[@tirthpatel1562]

The conductors need to have a comprehensive knowledge of each intrument and they usually know how to play one instrument. They also know the music. The ego needed to say such words is fucking incredible

[@Simone-Bucn]

Watching the Ashton Kutcher version (Jobs) after this version, is like following a nice glass of Hennessy cognac with a nice glass of urine.

[@ooitung95]

Thank god I had a glass of urine first and a nice glass of Hennessy to wash it away after.

[@robertisham5279]

I thought both versions were great.

[@lostmic]

Oh common it wasn't bad just a different take! lol

[@sebastianemond5313]

Both Jobs and Steve Jobs were great. The worst would be iSteve with Justin Long. Now, that was a glass of urine. Steve Jobs is like Hennessey, but Jobs is like aged Scotch Whiskey.

[@Simone-Bucn]

@@sebastianemond5313 @sebastianemond5313 😆 Aged scotch. Yeah, okaaaaay. *Shit acting* throughout, crappy dogshit writing, mediocre directing, textbook cliched plot. Seriously, go check out a clip called *"Steve Jobs vs. Jobs"* and open your eyes.

[@SuperWhofan1]

Feels like a great play and would love to see it on broadway

[@CarelesssXeno]

Not gonna lie calling your friend “lil buddy” is patronizing and out of pocket 🤧🤣

[@BrandonHeat243]

Especially if it's an older friend that knew you since you were a teenager.

[@Shutch512]

5:45 "That's what Men do." Just caught that this was the same line that Jobs said to Sculley later in the film. Spectacular work by Sorkin.

[@AtiehSimorgh-zq4fe]

I watched this movie 14 times! Micheal Fassbender mimiced Steve jobs extraordinary

[@ShadowKrueger]

This film is incredibly underrated

[@lhoudatv5669]

جميع العروض في هذا الفيلم كانت رائعة للغاية. كان مايكل فاسبندر في دور ستيف جوبز خارج هذا العالم. لقد فاجأني سيث روجن حقًا

[@youngd5519]

Imma have to check this out because this looks interesting

[@niyatiarun]

It’s amazing

[@WatercraftGames]

"What I said to the press was an honest, if tempered, reflection of what I believed." "That's what men do." Jobs references this later in the movie when talking to John.

[@AJJ129]

i do think the watch is cool but it is also horribly impractical you expect me to carry around a screwdriver?

[@TheAlps36]

I mean it's a prototype - with more work they could make it practical - like the Apple Watch

[@Efootball-r7m]

واحد من أفضل الافلام على الاطلاق

[@Neil-lf2ej]

Best historical movie! I loved it and love the actors 🎉

[@mohamedbelmelas7011]

Vous ne pouvez pas imaginé le plaisir que vous allez avoir en regardant ce film

[@mitchellhodack657]

Great movie.

[@Jch79]

Why does every clip from this movie on KZbin show someone evesdropping on Jobs while he's arguing?

[@seldnarfilms599]

Not hard to do I’d imagine. Bro did not have an inside voice

[@asmaejebbar4973]

Why from a beautiful movie and very exciting❤

[@gonzalopriale3293]

The description says "seth rogan"... It's Seth Rogen...

[@Jawad2020-y5v]

It is one of the most amazing films I have ever seen in life❤

[@salahbachar]

what a calibration! I have the impression that all the visionaries of these two films are confused

[@confetti_bun]

4:22 “lil buddy” is crazy 😭

[@joaoalbertodosanjosgomes1536]

Great movie.👍.

[@denisefreitas6727]

Great movie!

[@ayoubafifi3094]

What Amazing acts and colors

[@قناةسعدالمتنوعة]

من الجميل ان تشاهد فيلم ومستلقي وقد انتهيت من اعمالك

[@youssef-bouzidi]

A very wonderful and enjoyable movie. I will watch it for the second time

[@hichammgn]

Très beau film very good pictures

[@anouarjalali6804]

Very nice

[@Didntstartyet]

Great Movie, very inspiring

[@ECKohns]

It’s so sad that Steve Jobs died of ligma.

[@gggcapa7720]

What’s Steve Jobs?

[@mpg3946]

What a phenomenal movie.

[@CameliaLina-ey9ih]

ما اجمل هادا لفلم سوف اشاركه مع اصدقائي و عائلتي ان شاء الله سيفرحهم هذا

[@FatimaFatima-kr9nd]

Bonne travail, il est formidable sincèrement ❤❤

[@ahmedhamza-jr1ue]

I have watched this wonderful movie more than once 🤩

[@anouarnajmi5864]

I was very happy to watch this wonderful movie, it's one of the coolest movies❤❤❤

[@Salaman2004]

A wonderful movie that I have never seen befor❤❤

[@fofakitchen]

فلم رائع شاهدته من قبل ،يستحق المشاهدة انصحكم به

[@GERAL_TRECHOS-Lives]

Que filme maravilhoso ❤😊

[@zinebbrahmi8900]

Steve jobs is terrefic, well acted, well directed, well written and notably well edited.

[@karimsaad8195]

عمل فني متميز اانصح بمشاهدته بشدة ❤

[@Youtuwibe]

فيلم رائع جدا احبه ❤❤🎉🎉🎉

[@VinylSebas]

Wow. Not sure how accurate this movie is but it realy makes you hate Steve Jobs.

[@fadilabdlkbir6255]

Verry good

[@mohamedbelmelas7011]

Vous avez de la chance de regarder ce film c'est vraiment magnifique

[@OthmaneJaadouni]

جميع العروض في هاد الفلم رائع

[@hanichjihan5524]

وراء كل فيلم قدر هائل من العمل وهذا الفيلم اقل ما يقال عنه انه تحفة فنية

[@Somni_Rex]

Life is flow, dude.

[@SalaheddineTadili]

A movie full of knowledge i recommend to watch it

[@zakariahnini180]

C'est un film incroyable ❤❤

[@nadir2504]

UN TRES BON FILM AVEC UN ACTEUR EXCEPTIONEL

[@ChuchuRocketFans]

Epic Movie! 😉

[@mohamedaliofficiel7771]

فيلم جميل قصة رائعة جدا ❤❤

[@AllenHanPR]

Steve Jobs is a prick though he should thank his lucky stars he met Wozniak. Both of them needed each other for Apple to exist. yet he never praised Wozniak.

[@BadrWasa]

Wow what a beautiful movie

[@hajarelbouanani4421]

Wow This is a good movie . I love this movie

[@SHAMVN]

أحس فلم على الإطلاق يسادة ينصح بتتبعه ❤❤❤😍

[@achrafboughaba-f9k]

tres bon film bravo bravo

[@joharmohammed2158]

Great movie

[@Relaxation_Realm_e]

Wonderful film I like it so much

[@youssef7466]

i like this film i enjoyed watching ❤❤❤

[@id-lahsensouhailsvtu-b563]

Good job et good luck bro

[@NinaErrabhi]

This is one of the best movies❤❤

[@maryam-c3s]

One of the best movies I've ever watched

[@faysalechaigri5009]

هذا الفيلم يسحق المشاهدة احدات مشوقة ❤🥰🥰

[@Ros01benimellal]

Very nice Tru story❤

[@adilarhzane4698]

Very Nice movie ❤ i love it

[@BobSmith-dk8nw]

It's funny. I used to know why Jobs planned for Next to fail but I don't remember ... So it goes ... .

[@user-ke4kz3in9j]

Seth was a bad choice. Not like Woz at all

[@oussamamouhiha9122]

هذا الفيلم جيد جدًا ويستحق المشاهدة، يمكن للجميع مشاهدته.

[@nasserhaddar6866]

Its a very wonderful movie I love it

[@simosaidi8897]

It 's a beautiful movie full of exciting stories I' d recommend

[@medgamer1750]

Nice movie

[@mouadbendriss3577]

This is cool

[@fatimazahrabenlkahla7090]

Nice movie ❤

[@rodayna737]

Its one of the most beautiful ❤

[@JaceSpencer]

Fight

[@LyingTube]

Genuinely this is one of the scenes that convinced me that Seth Rogan, whose characteristic laugh I absolutely cannot stand, is actually a very, very good actor.

[@lolofood]

فيلم رائع جدا شاهدته اكتر من مرة و سأعد اشاهده

[@wafisim]

Good film❤❤❤❤❤

[@davidcalle-k3f]

Awesome movíe dcr❤😂🎉

[@XSIMOPRO]

فلم ممتاز من الافلام الممتعة والجميلة انصح الجميع بمشاهدته فرجة ممتعة

[@tulayaslancancersoldiers]

❤

[@Boudex11]

This movie is wonderful i love him so much

[@dmitridasilva8213]

A good film to represent a despot. As much as it was remarkable in certain aspects until this one, no film had indicated how despotic it was. Despite falling into romanticizing the character to please everyone. This is the biggest mistake of the film, not showing the 100% truth so as not to be bothered by Jobs' sectarians.

[@eimonkhan9945]

Bast of the film