Steven Universe Future Episode 13, 14, 15 & 16 Group Reaction

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[@donovan802]

It’s still really shocking how the character who shattered a gem is the character most of us least expected to do it…

[@Cye_Pie]

I'm still pissed that Steven managed to fix her gem after shattering it, it would've been so much more impactful if she stayed shattered.

[@Thebeezzkneezz.]

I seen I comming actually, I was waiting for steven to shatter someone the whole show ngl 😅 I thoguht it was inevitable

[@unvoicedapollo3318]

​@Cye_Pie i'm actually going to push back on this. A whole theme of SUF is Steven clearly trying to get out from under his mother's shadow & prove he's not her. Furthermore, Steven is trying so hard to avoid consequences resulting from his own actions. Jasper coming back and calling Steven "My Diamond" only reaffirms his fears regarding this. If Jasper had stsyed shattered, Steven may have been able to start his recovery earlier, realizing & accepting the consequences. The fact that he actually is able to put Jasper back together is actually the catalyst that sends him even further into the downward spiral that manifests as the monster he sees himself as.

[@cem575]

​@@Cye_Pie that pissed you fr?

[@dragonmationsjcg8785]

@@Cye_Pieit seems worse mentally for Steven for her to comeback in the moment him hearing “my daimond” was probably the last thing he wanted to hear

[@mrrd4444]

To be fair to Greg, his parents clearly didn't care about him. They NEVER opened his letters. They kept them but never bothered to read what he had to say. I imagine he even told them about Steven but they never knew because they never read the letters.

[@yazanhussam8182]

Dude, Imagine losing the mother of your new born child, and you reach out to your parents for support, and they ignore you on the spot, I wouldn't forgive them either.

[@rafaelmatos5851]

I understand why Greg rebelled against his parents. It's suffocating when your parents can't possibly accept who you are or at least try to understand you. What Greg's parents did to him, in a way, is the same thing that the other Diamonds did to Pink and both of them reacted, more or less, in the same way: they run away and adopted a new identity that better fitted who they really were.

[@gothicMCRgirl]

Exactly. Greg is a guy that is SUPER understanding and supportive of people, even when they’re being assholes. If even Greg came to the conclusion that his parents are lost causes, to the point that he has gone zero contact with them, even after all this time, then they must be pretty awful, not just as parents, but like in general. Like how uncle Andy used to be, but even worse probably.

[@firemiracle]

@@gothicMCRgirlexactly. His parents were freaking awful. The fact that they never even opened his letters go to show how they don’t care. They never gave Greg freedom, they rejected everything that made him happy, and forced him to do stuff he didn’t wanted to do. Like that is being a very crappy horrible parent. They don’t deserve to know that they are grandparents. And poor Steven, the fact that he got mad at Greg for leaving his parents really upset me, he doesn’t know what it was like for Greg growing up with horrible unfair parents, it was their fault that Greg ran away from home. Also I actually find it cute that Greg and pink have that in common. Just like Greg, pink was treated very unfairly by the diamonds, they were also extremely strict, they gave her no freedom, and they didn’t even got to listen in how she deeply felt. She felt that the diamonds never cared. And when Greg and pink met, they became more happier 🥺

[@anyathepanther7977]

I can imagine if Steven ever showed up to create a Relationship, they would just talk Bad about everything in his life. How much of a Disapointment his Dad is, that his Lifestyle is screwed up and that he is destined for failure.

[@anaidpenguelly3046]

fun fact, rebecca sugar explained that what happened between jasper and steven is an example of following advice and guide from the wrong person when you're not ok

[@IVAN-hg6ei]

That's a great example, with the difference that Steven was able to bring Jasper "back"

[@thepixelman4776]

“This is what you were worried about it?! ITS NOTHING!!!” Yep.

[@MonsterGul]

Why the wrong person? I don't think the advice and guide from Jasper was the problem, the problem is Steven who seems to always take the advice in his own way which ends up bad-

[@MatthewTeachout-xj4yy]

Honestly I thought it wasn’t a half bad idea, it was just executed horribly. Many people have a punching bag for stress relief, Steven just needed a stronger bag.

[@bluerious5475]

@@MonsterGul The advice Jasper was giving Steven involved coping with his emotions in an unhealthy way instead of healthily channeling his frustration in a less desctructive manner.

[@KingsBard]

The worst thing about that proposal is that it was perfect in every way except for the timing, and he can never do it the same way now.

[@niedren]

I knoooow! I had a cute one shot on the back burner for ages that I never got around to writing where the proposal was basically this but Connie was the one proposing and as soon as Together Forever came out I immediately trashed the whole idea 😅

[@rosenmael9724]

Its so sad yeah 😭, I think Connie should be the one to propose, idk if Steven would wanna do it again without associating it with trauma 😢

[@andalilbitqueer]

nahhh, he definitely can

[@johanstenfelt1206]

Huh, yeah, that might be the real tragedy of the Episode.

[@Kendorable]

If two people love each other and are ready, they already know a marriage proposal is coming and have talked about getting married. It should never come as a surprise. As such, the way the proposal happens isn't the most important thing. I think he could try it the same way again later and Connie would love that still.

[@jk-nz9bq]

Hman is right. Bismuth made the breaking point to shatter any enemy Gem but specifically the diamonds. Remember when jasper poofed amethyst she said it was “time to get rid of this embarrassment once and for all” meaning shatter her. Also, the fact that someone stepping on lapis’ gem was enough to crack it indicates that it’s not THAT hard to shatter a gem, or perhaps some are tougher than others.

[@ezeukatusanene6267]

The way I see it is by the Mohs scale, the hardness of gems seems to be what the class system of homework is based so for lapis, which ranges 5-6, is weeker then sapphires, which are a 9, diamonds 10 and quartz around 6 - 7. So it may be possible for a gems physical and I mean PHYSICAL strengths relate to their hardness. An example I can think are rubies, while lower class gems in the gempire their hardness are similar to sapphires at 8 - 9, why they are paired with sapphires as most gems may struggle to shatter them. So I believe gems are capable of shattering those of a lower mohs scale because it may directly relate to physical abilities/attributes.

[@ezeukatusanene6267]

Additionally, the class system also takes in special abilities and average intelligence to account for status among gem types, so rubies which are as tough as sapphires are lower class because of their lower intelligence as a whole despite being highly heat resistant or pyrokinetic traits. Lapis lazuli are high up because of their incredible hydrokinetic powers. Diamonds are the absolute monarchs cause their are the hardest NATURAL occuring material so no gem may be able to shatter them without a weapon, thus bismuth made a weapon that can because there are powerful machines/tools capable of shattering diamonds in real life.

[@stancinatti8198]

@@ezeukatusanene6267facts like land of the lustrous (houseki no kuni)

[@ezeukatusanene6267]

@@stancinatti8198 True that!

[@BlackCherryLimonade]

26:42 "Anything bad in my childhood? So it all started the day i was born and the gems kidnapped me, and that's when i knew things would go down from here 😭"

[@crazzylion2992]

not so fun fact: zach callison (voice actor of Steven) does not do any acting or music right now to focus on his mental health. he disappeared off of social media around the time SU the movie, he said he had a bad time in general with acting (not including steven universe) and the only thing on his socials are the words , “we’ll be right back”

[@MatthewTeachout-xj4yy]

I saw he made an album or something.

[@skylaralley2465]

@@MatthewTeachout-xj4yyyes! A Picture Perfect Hollywood Heartbreak is an amazing album and my favorite

[@bumpscosity8065]

I love that the progression of Steven growing up is so natural, you don’t see it as it’s happening. When you watch early S1, then jump into S5 or Future, he’s basically a different person

[@user-pt5cl2ro6f]

Soo different, yet the same

[@maurtendo]

What is throwing you off about Steven's age is that, yes, he is older than Connie, and Connie is preparing for college. But in the first episode of Future Connie says she is planning her college days two years early.

[@SamuraiBre]

Steven basically just found out that he's just a product of both his parents rebelling against their own parental figures. And yeah, that kinda sucks to find out. Steven basically grew up with zero structure. His friends are all teenagers and adults, with Connie being his only child friend. Greg let the Gems raise him for the most part despite them not knowing enough about humans to understand what he needed. Greg didn't have a perfect set structure but he had structure. Something Steven didn't.

[@luanpassos7322]

To be fair to Greg, there was no way Steven could be raised as a normal human child, because he WAS NOT NORMAL. Several episodes in the first season are about his powers going off and sometimes even putting people in danger, And if you consider that his powers come from intense emotions, imagine him in an environment like SCHOOL

[@SamuraiBre]

@luanpassos7322 Yeah but that's still Greg and Rose's fault.

[@SamuraiBre]

@@luanpassos7322 Not Steven's

[@luanpassos7322]

@@SamuraiBre ??? I'm not saying it's his fault, But it doesn't make sense to crucify Greg either, since he raised Steven the best he could considering his "special conditions","a but he could have been better" yes, just like all parents in the history of humanity, parents are human and make mistakes

[@SamuraiBre]

@luanpassos7322 Crticism isn't crucifyying...not sure where you got that. Greg chose to have a child with a woman he really didn't know enough about. He's an adult and made a chose that had repercussions to said child. Just like Rose.

[@Dream179Legacy]

When I saw jasper’s gem shattered, my mouth dropped to the floor for 1 whole minute, and even longer when jasper said “my diamond” Edit: Holy shit this is the biggest number of likes I ever gotten, thank you all so much!!😁

[@BroZilla-vh3tu]

I was shocked but then immediately disappointed once she revived, effectively removing the tension from the entire show beforehand

[@potatoman7028]

You would need all 4 dimaonds esscense to revive a gem and they only get the other dimaonds at the end of the show lol​@@BroZilla-vh3tu

[@venomouswyverns8819]

@@BroZilla-vh3tu ah yes lets perma kill this character in a tv show meant mostly for children, nothing says fun for the whole family quite like on screen murder, im sure mothers everywhere would be thrilled their child gets to experienece such an amazing thing like come on really? you really expected and WANTED that?

[@yashjoseph3544]

@@BroZilla-vh3tu Yeah, removing the consequences of shattering was one of the worst writing blunders of Future.

[@sillyface6950]

​@@yashjoseph3544it didn't "remove the consequences". He shattered her, it took EVERYTHING he had to bring her back (everything in the bottles from the diamonds AND his reviving tears). And although jasper is back, she was still shattered. The emotional impact of that can't simply be erased by just bringing her back. He will have to live with that forever, the fact he basically killed her.

[@Tritopolis408]

I get why a lot of people hate "Together Forever," but I just can't. We get an episode in a show where the kid protag who's been put on an expectation pedestal and goes through some traumatic shit ACTUALLY has to face the fact and their well-being isnt exactly all good after. We never get that. I feel for Steven and I think it's super important for him to understand how to process life events. I think this genius.

[@waterbullstudios9195]

Yeah, I appreciate it for what it is too.

[@xnizarr_8]

I can’t believe there is only 1 week left for the Steven universe ending ),:

[@Ltbubbl3]

Real💔

[@jadesides51]

It's over, isn't it?

[@quillalmighty]

​@@jadesides51isn't it, isn't it over

[@Shutyooasss]

​@@quillalmightyit's over, isn't it?

[@mirulei]

⁠@@Shutyooasss isn't it, isn't it over

[@hannahpinson4361]

A major problem is we don't meet Greg's parents, so we don't know if they were emotionally abusive or just strict. Steven had freedom but no stability or constancy. He didn't go to school, so he has very few friends his age and can't even interact with them properly. It's strange, but it seems like the freedom Greg gave him is what led to Steven being and feeling so isolated.

[@dan_man3087]

On the other hand, it's a fact that Greg's parents almost disowned him oh had really low opinions of their son. After all, his brother\cousin wasn't fond of Greg for running away. And also all letters Greg sent to his parent shows that he really did try to connect to them. _But they didn't opened even a single one of them_

[@gothicMCRgirl]

That’s the funny little thing about parenting, isn’t it? Even when you give your kids a better lifestyle than you had, you nevertheless risk hurting them all the same, just in a different way that you were hurt 🤷‍♀️ parenting is never perfect and it’s just a bunch of trial and error, no matter who you are. Greg did very well considering how Steven turned out, but even if Steven had grown up around other kids or family, I don’t think this could have been avoided, necessarily. He would’ve had an identity crisis nonetheless just by virtue of being half-gem and half-human. Ask any kid with mixed parents and you’ll see what I mean.

[@luantrindade2910]

That's pretty much what happened to toph and her daughters, her parents never gave her freedom, so she gave Suyin and Lin a way too much freedom

[@slipperytummy5532]

i always find the letters so interesting. They didn't open any of them... but they did keep every single one. It sounds like they were bad parents but still cared.@@dan_man3087

[@ivanelugo]

The "Mr Greg" episode, he propose to use the money to get Steven on school, but Steven told him that he learn everything from the gems

[@ThePictureofGregorSamsa]

I have CPTSD and as I kid I tried my hardest to keep peace/make everyone as happy as possible at all times and never cared for myself at all. Watching this show was the first time I’ve felt that my perspective has been accurately put into a show. When I was little I never understood why I couldn’t find anything that talked about my thoughts and my experience and internalized it as being an issue with me as a whole, Steven universe and Steven universe future while not a magic fix definitely put me on the path to understanding my experience and life and the issues I’ve had.

[@johnseymore4774]

Does that happen to have anything to do with your username?

[@ThePictureofGregorSamsa]

@@johnseymore4774 yeah haha

[@aqua235]

Honestly, I feel so similar. This show is therapeutic, it helped me through my mental health issues as well. I actually listen to Hear Comes A Thought from the earlier show whenever I get close to a breaking point. Weird probably, but S.U. is just really soothing somehow. It's hard to describe but thank you for your insights.

[@Shadowcat31]

my partner had a terrible childhood and thus lots of childhood trauma and when we watched SU Future and we got to these later episodes, he was just full on crying pretty much every episode from the Hospital episode onward. He also said that he has never had an animated show that was supposed to be for kids speak so accurately and plainly about how he feels now as an adult. I truly believe It was this show that lit the fire in him to start working on his mental health and now a few years later he is the happiest he has been in a very long time. Shows like this are so important because a lot of the time people/kids just don't have a good knowledge of mental health issues so having the concept of childhood trauma talked about in a kids show where both kids, parents and interested adults will be watching was a stroke of genius on Rebecca Sugars part. I think this show helped an entire generation of kids/people understand themselves on a deeper level. Thank you for sharing your experience !

[@goldenlightning8842]

Boom is either a.) Extremely well adjusted B.) Has a shit ton of life experience from the deepest pits to the highest highs C.) He really enjoys researching mental health issues D.) All of the above Because this entire reaction he was hitting on ALL SIXES!! HE LITERALLY DIDN'T GET A SINGLE ANALYTICAL POINT WRONG!😮 If it wasnt for his insane reactions I'd assume he was prewatching cause man he seems to just know exactly how steven is gonna spiral and what exactly is gonna happen with each issue steven faces to a Tee is reacting was a game...boom won this episode

[@GOMO26]

My favorite part of reaction channels lately, expecially these four, is watching how emotionally intouch and healthy other people are. They have the ability to cheer at good things happening and tear up at the bad or sad things. For so long I viewed emotions as a problem, mistake, or weakness so much that I basically stopped allowing myself to feel anything and now have trouble feeling anything. These four are so fascinating to me because when their friend is excited they are excited and when their friend is sad or emotional they take a second to check on them and let them know it's ok to feel how they are instead of using it as a way to hurt or gain something. I'm honestly so jealous of how they are able to feel whatever they have to and get it out instead of bottling everything up.

[@goldenlightning8842]

@@GOMO26 you and me both pal I've spent a lot of my time bottling up my emotions due to past trauma and having to the "well-adjusted emotional older brother" that now it's super hard to cry and even when I'm feeling emotions properly I blame and hate myself cause my mind is telling me something is wrong, even when I'm around friends....slowly but surely I'm learning to work through it and my friends are helping me out as well but it's still and issue I'm struggling with every waking moment. it sucks but these guys show me where I can eventually be in my life, so I watch them as much as possible. I'm glad my comment at least brought someone who relates to my struggle and strive for the same thing as me. we can struggle and grow together :)

[@joaoparente1717]

Remember when Amethyst fell off a cliff and got her gem cracked? Their gems are naturally hard because you know, they're gems. But if you grab a sledge hammer and give them like 5 good hits you should be able to shatter a gem. Bismuth's breaking point was dangerous because it was built to one shot shatter gems, she was gonna mass produce it for the rebelion to use.

[@HeraclesN-fp1bw]

- University of Jayhawk is a reference to the University of Kansas as the jayhawk is the mascot & Kansas's official state bird - When Sapphire motivates Steven to propose by saying "Do it, do it, DO IT!" similarly to Shia LaBeouf's "Just Do It" - Ruby's scout leader outfit maybe a reference to Smokey the Bear which is ironic since Ruby has pyrokinetic abilities & Smokey's catchphrase "Only YOU can prevent forest fires!" - During the Dogcopter 6 trailer the Drew name maybe a reference to Drew Green, who also storyboarded on “Growing Pains” - Steven referring to his issues as "third-era problems" is a play on the phrase "first-world problems" with Era 3 - Kerry Moonbeam is voiced by Jemaine Clement (also voices Kookaburra in “Koala Man”, Tamatoa in “Moana”, Ortan & Doctor Zone in “Milo Murphy’s Law”, Aquaman in “DC League of Super-Pets”, Nigel in “Rio”, Fart in “Rick & Morty”, & many more) & is based on the rockstar David Bowie & his famous Ziggy Stardust character / album - "Uaua" is a parody of the real-life convenience store "Wawa” - “Fragments” was based on an episode idea Ian Jones-Quartey had for the original series

[@b3yourself91]

Kansas is also where Hollywood is in this universe. Apparently, at least according to Jaime

[@parappa_is_my_rapper6557]

also steven has NEVER EVERRRR been in school so he’d have to start from scratch with homeschool to catch up with connie😭😭😭

[@traehignight]

I mean, there was a comic where they revealed that the gems gave Steven education so well that he was ahead of the schools

[@theprideling]

@@traehignightyeah but he would still have to take tests and stuff to prove it do he could be admitted into college. And I can’t really see the gems teaching him about things like human history all that much. He’s bound to have a bunch of gaps that he would have to take remedial classes for. Not to mention that for a free spirited kid like him suddenly having to adapt to a classroom environment would be ROUGH.

[@traehignight]

@@theprideling ? The Gems are thousands of years old, they’ve *experienced* human history and have been shown to quickly point it out to him when the human history being portrayed to him is completely wrong

[@a_real_one2000]

Greg attempt to provide the childhood he would’ve wanted for Steven & probably help to break family trauma cycles. It also created new ones. He forgot that kids aren’t mini versions their parents. Steven is his own person/gem As Steven got involved with gem issues he needed a little human structure to ground him The Future series is really highlighting how Steven go to respond to problems are 0 or 100. Which helps when fighting intergalactic beings no so much when day to day interactions, figuring out what you want to do with your life etc.

[@jonasquinn7977]

This makes no sense to me, Greg never treated his son like he was just a mini version of him. He’s a loving father that always encouraged Steven to be himself and sending him to school would have been a TERRIBLE idea.

[@a_real_one2000]

⁠@@jonasquinn7977 yes Greg parented Steven the way he wish his parent would’ve did. Open, loving structureless upbringing. That allowed Steven to become who he is. It was great for Steven early but as he grew up started taking on more adult responsibility/stresses while still being child. Yes Greg is great better parent to Steven then his own parents. That doesn’t mean he was perfect, he did everything right or there are not things he could’ve done better. I didn’t say Greg should send Steven to school. You are right that’s bad idea.

[@jonasquinn7977]

@@a_real_one2000 oh sure, Greg isn’t a perfect parent. I just think people are too harsh on him ever since this episode came out.

[@a_real_one2000]

@@jonasquinn7977 you right. Greg was took some unnecessary strays. He did the best he could. Was miles better then his own parents. Greg relationship with Steven will be fine going forward.

[@garrethb6261]

@@jonasquinn7977 I think people are way too easy on Greg to be honest.

[@MarceloSilva-kp7mc]

4:07 I like the detail of Steven sinking into the bed, cause' the same way his body gets lighter when he fells well, it gets heavier when he fells bad

[@Honk4frogs]

As someone who got a ptsd diagnosis at age 20 (only a couple years before this episode aired) I f*cking sobbed like a baby when Dr maheswaran started explaining childhood trauma to steven. I still find it hard to watch, and I rarely get emotional. I just think about all the kids who get to have this now, helping them understand their issues better and recognizing the hurt they carry sooner in life. This show is hard to watch, it makes people uncomfortable, and I think thats a great thing.

[@THEPHENOMONALJORDAN]

Steven working out and learning to vent his aggression was a good idea in theory, but jasper pushed him like 10 steps too far and he went full roid rage

[@ClubsDeuce5150]

"Ruby will point him in the right direction" the timing was PERFECT

[@JoseSerrato0420]

"He needs to talk to his dad" -Talks with his dad go bad "He needs to talk to Jasper" -Talks with Jasper go bad "He needs to talk to the Diamonds" -Can you guess how that goes??

[@justlivinglife1167]

No literally I sensed a pattern since little graduation. Like each episode kept ending with a bunch of things still not being addressed/resolved and Steven still in a really dark place despite whatever resolution a specific episode came to and I was really worried about him... I knew going to the diamonds wasn't going to help so it was hard to watch 😟😓

[@Miner49er201]

Me: It... goes... The Show: IT GOES BAD!

[@MatthewTeachout-xj4yy]

*”hE nEeDs To TaLk To HiS mOm”*

[@Pairfait_Cookie_Fan123]

One thing to note he's doing the same thing Pink pearl/Vollyball was doing creating emotional scars because he's refusing to acknowledge his issues and talk about it with others

[@unknowndane4754]

Obviously this was quite a while for you guys, but on Gem shattering, one of the earlier episodes is Amethyst falling on a rock that hit her gem and cracked it. Expanding on that, it should be fairly easy for most physical objects to severely damage gems (take Garnet's gauntlets as an example). Rose's sword was an anomaly in that it couldn't hurt a gem, but would destroy the projection of the gem.

[@ladyaema]

It varies though even though amethyst had that one instant. You have moments like lapis, and jasper fall from space to earth when the ship crashed. Heck lapis got punched in the gem by bismuth and not a crack. But one foot cracked lapis gem. Peridot went through a whole episode falling off a mountain, Having a bolder fall in her multiple times, and not even a split.

[@kaylagaymon4873]

Those episodes were so surprising and very sad. Together Forever hits me so hard how Steven was proposing to Connie. Steven shattering Jasper shocked me. The last 4 episodes will surprise everybody 😱😱😱😭😭😭

[@kiwiparfaits]

out of every steven universe episode, the episodes that shocked me most were steven going to the doctor, and jasper getting shattered. absolutely fucking insane man. like jaw dropped and i cant pick it up i was never expecting to see something like that xray of steven and it realistically makes sense after all the missions and danger he's been in that he was physically hurt along with the mental trauma but actually seeing it.. man. because in early steven he was always fine. but really, he wasn't.

[@DarkPrincessAly]

These are the 4 most important episodes of SUF. I'm so glad you guys got to watch them all at once because they really highlight what Steven's issues are. The hospital episode, by itself, is what made me realize that I needed therapy. I was about to turn 25 when it first dropped. I hope every kid out there who sees this episode and needs help can bring themselves to seek it. Because you deserve help. Your happiness matters.

[@TheDeadDandy]

Steven Universe, a character that’s all about words over action for conflict, having a body count is wild lmao

[@JanJan-cc1kz]

I think the song affected Steven so negatively because it's about discovering the wider universe outside your tiny, restrictive life (something that was no doubt inspiring to greg, who grew up under authoritarian parents), but the problem is that Steven has already discovered the universe and it tried to kill him a lot lol.

[@catboyalvie]

47:42 If you remember in Crack The Whip, after Jasper poofed Amethyst, she was getting ready to (what I can assume) shatter Amethyst right before Stevonnie stepped in

[@calvineagar1863]

I love how in every episode they are just like: "he needs to go do this," and then doing that thing just makes it worse. Exactly what I was thinking when I was watching it :}

[@actionturnip395]

This is one of the wildest pack of episodes because there are so many revelations that help contextualize Greg and Steven’s relationship. Steven was more happy go lucky back in season 1 but there was still an extremely nightmarish quality to the scenarios he found himself in. Remember when Steven became a super old man and couldn’t stop aging due to his powers?? Remember when Petey fryman ranted about depression and burnout in the one single episode that focused on him, while Steven was sitting there rocking back and forth on a toy meant for toddlers? Steven has always been in slightly arrested development - ESPECIALLY compared to Connie, and these episodes are where it finally dawned on him that… his dad was always kinda selfish… You can’t just say you grew up in a prison and had it worse than any kid ever to the kid who became an intergalactic fugitive of a totalitarian empire, when you HAD A NORMAL HOUSE, with people who UNDERSTAND HUMAN THINGS. There’s just a lot that Greg and others took for granted and Steven is only now realizing it. He grew up in freedom AND profound isolation, because 3 of his parents were aliens, and the one human one was a hobo… One thing that always blew my mind was the fact that when they show the X-rays… if they had EVER taken Steven in for an X-ray prior to this - which they absolutely should have considering all the physical trauma he experienced - it could have blown the lid off of the entire pink diamond mystery… the gems always underestimated human technology, but Greg never really had that excuse.

[@gaybatgosqueak]

I wouldn't say Greg was selfish he was giving Steven everything he never had as a kid due to over controlling parents. He also was in over his head cuz Steven isn't a normal child. The reality is Greg did his best but parents often still mess up and life can be traumatic even if your parent/s are loving and supportive. And I get why Greg never took Steven to a doctor, if he didn't need it and would likely get more questions and unhelpful probing why would he?

[@MetaLatias5]

Growing Pains is probably my favorite episode of Future simply for everything we learn at the hospital, from the x-rays to that whole run-through of Steven's trauma flashing by behind him (including Ronaldo knocking him out with a potato dfgvh- I dunno, for some reason that one specifically always kinda throws me 'XD), it's even the first time I heard about cortisol and what it does so that's cool

[@Henzoid]

Blue Cross Blue Diamond is a GOD TIER joke holy shit.

[@xnizarr_8]

Here we go guys.. the 4 moest saddest episodes.🙏🏽

[@lunassweatyarmpits8041]

I think the reason Jasper bowing to him and saying "My diamond" is way worst because it's remind him of his mother... AND JASPER'S DIAMOND IS PINK DIAMOND Sorry was?

[@firemiracle]

What mostly disturbs me is that jasper started to give Steven respect after she got shattered by him. Like I swear, jasper is just freaking messed up if that’s what it takes for her to give respect to someone. This is why I don’t like the fact that Steven tried to give her many chances to be part of little homeschool and become a crystal gem. But jasper doesn’t care, she is so stuck in her old ways. If she doesn’t want to be a crystal gem, then she doesn’t even deserves to be a crystal gem. Not everyone deserve second chances if they are not willing to change.

[@MonsterGul]

​​@@firemiracleBro what are you talking about, Steven wanted to force Jasper to form part of the school even thought she said no multiple times and she was literally the only one telling Steven the true, how he search for people to help who DON'T NEED HELP just to avoid his own problems. And when things don't go as he wants he fucking flips up or gets angry. I like that Jasper doesn't let Steven do what the fuck he wants for once, and that Steven listens to her and respects her is wholesome. Ofc she has her flows like everyone else does, but she is not to blame for Steven flaws. Even when Jasper is stuck in his own old ways she doesn't go around forcing people to do the same, unlike Steven who goes around trying to force people to do and act LIKE HE WANTS.

[@rosenmael9724]

“That was healthy, I’m glad he got that fight out of his system cuz that’s not setting a dangerous precedent 😃!” So true Boom 🤣🤣💀, I love these guys so much 😂

[@ByteDWolf]

I know Steven is a romantic, but proposing at the age of ~17 to someone around the same age before they’ve even entered college, bro should’ve had more sense than that. Also, I really like the hospital episode, probably because it shows all the stress and trauma Steven experienced in his life coming back to torture him by making his body think he’ll die every time something goes wrong.

[@giraffire13]

Yeah... But I can't blame him at all. He didn't know anything about actual marriage before. In fact, he didn't know anything about how human relationships work. Heck, they weren't involved in a romantic relationship yet. I have the headcanon that Connie was thinking about it when she saw Steven making all that pretty stuff for her.

[@bluewolf6323]

You can't really blame Steven for this because although he had the healthiest relationship to back on, I.e Garnet, they just figured out human marriages to stay together, therefore, he thinks, Oh, I can do the same thing with Connie because that's how that works. He has no other frame of reference other than maybe Sadie and Lars and that was toxic and a shit show.

[@MidnightLucario1]

Greg grew in a cage of his own life, but when he did the opposite when parenting Steven, he literally has too much freedom to the point he lacked structure. And due to that, the possibilities of his path is so vast he has no idea what to do with himself when he has to focus on himself for once. That's why he got mad and wanted Greg's home life. Cause he felt at least thanks to his parents, Greg found out who he was and what he wanted to do. And Steven feels that what he needs.

[@jonasquinn7977]

While I understand Steven feeling that way, because he wasn’t in a proper headspace and wasn’t being fair to his dad, I always have to question realistically what more structure could Greg have given Steven? Send his son that could develop powers, that are based off of emotion, to school? That’s a disaster waiting to happen. Ban him from participating in Gem stuff? He tried that, it didn’t work and it would just be cutting him off from part of his heritage. Greg was a constant, loving and supportive presence in his sons life that he could turn to whenever he needed and that’s kinda the most you can be when you’re son is an alien space god. Steven is mad at his circumstances and using his dad as an outlet.

[@garrethb6261]

@@jonasquinn7977 even if he was there emotionally he still neglected Steven physically. He should have used more structure and rules in his parenting. He didn't send him to school because he thought school would limit his freedom, and not because he thought it might pose a danger to Steven or others. Schooling is a vital part in developing children, it helps them connect with their peers and helps them learn to control their emotions. Steven had none of those things, he had only one friend who was also his peer and that was Connie. All his other friends weren't really at his peer level.

[@jonasquinn7977]

@@garrethb6261 exactly what rules and structure was Steven in desperate need of? School doesn’t count for the aforementioned reasons, whether they were Greg’s primary motivations or not. Plus while school can be very useful it is not an absolute necessity so long as you still receive and education and the necessary emotional support and are raised properly, plenty of people are homeschooled and that’s not abuse. Also the idea that Greg is against schooling is patently false. When he becomes rich he explicitly offers to pay for any education that Steven wants.

[@garrethb6261]

@@jonasquinn7977 "exactly what rules and structure was Steven in desperate need of?" Things like bedtimes, not eating junk food for breakfast, basic discipline, stuff like that is structure and he didn't have any of it. "you still receive and education and the necessary emotional support and are raised properly, plenty of people are homeschooled and that’s not abuse" He did ever receive any education? Because I never saw Steven being homeschooled. And you say he was raised properly? Yeah sure, he totally was, it's not like being in life or death situations constantly is abnormal or anything. And Steven was the one giving emotional support to others, sure he received some emotional support as well, but he was used as an emotional crutch by almost everyone else, whether they intended for him to be an emotional crutch or not he still as used as one. Basically your whole argument is that Steven had the necessary structure and support, but the whole premise of SUF says exactly the opposite.

[@jonasquinn7977]

@@garrethb6261 All children have junk food for breakfast on occasion, I’m pretty sure he had a bedtime outside of emergencies and what discipline was Steven in such desperate need of that he didn’t get? Do you honestly think Pearl would be okay leaving Steven completely uneducated? He is never portrayed as being stupid or uneducated and in the closest thing we have to a story of him attending school, an admittedly non canon comic, he aces every test he’s given. As for the life and death situations there’s literally nothing Greg could do about those and if he tried the entire world would’ve been destroyed several times over. And again for the emotional support yes most people use Steven as an emotional crutch though they do also help him, it can go both ways, but not Greg. Sure maybe on occasion Greg would get a bit down and Steven would help cheer him up but those circumstances are far outnumbered by the times that Greg supported Steven. As for SUF, Greg had little to no control over most of the stuff that caused Steven’s issues. Being mad at Greg for Steven’s problems in Future is like being mad at a parent whose child lived through a war they had no control over for them being traumatised.

[@Lilusisu11]

TOGETHER FOREVER STUNNED ME SM WHEN I WATCHED IT FIRST

[@arc-77fordo13]

Is it me or lyrics of "Mr. Universe" basically reference all of Steven's life and experiences

[@rafaelmatos5851]

I can see the reason why Greg raised Steven in complete freedom, so his son wouldn't have to suffer the same constricting life he had. But he, in a way, did the exact same thing his parents did to him, since he also never considered what Steven wanted or needed in life. Even if Steven is pretty contempt with his life with the gems, the fact is he also enjoyed the more normal stuff that Greg thought as being suffocating. He never got a "normal" life the other kids had, like school or friends his age. He spent most of his time either with the gems or waiting for them. But you can see he wouldn't mind have it, one could say he would want to have a life like the other kids. You can see how Steven, in a way, envied a little bit his human friends' lives. When he got to see his grandparents' house, he actually got the desired to have his father's upbringing, something that Greg disagreed, saying that he was far better off with the life he gave him and tried to have Steven to follow on his footsteps... which is basically what his parents did to him. Funny, how Steven grew up idolizing his two parents, but as the series progressed, he started to see them as the people they were, people who, despite their virtues, also had flaws of their own.

[@jonasquinn7977]

Greg is 100% right though. His parents were borderline abusive and even then he DID attempt to get in contact with them after Steven was born they just never bothered to reciprocate. Plus sending Steven to school when his powers could have popped up at any moment would have been a terrible idea. Greg isn’t perfect but the vast majority of Steven’s anger in that episode is because of circumstances his father had to deal with and are not actually his fault.

[@alexrun9548]

Can’t believe the end of Steven Universe is near now. I really appreciate both the original and Future, and it was nice seeing your reaction guys😊

[@rosenmael9724]

"you sure that he needed this H-man???!!" 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@PaisleyPie_2018]

17:27 Connie actually got it at a float parade then she lost it and Steven gave it back to her

[@LauraVivian]

Man the first time i saw these episodes, the first time i've seen his diamond eyes, and realizing he shattered Jasper, our Steven shattered someone, and having to wait for the next episode.... i think it was the most memorable moment of this show for me, i was sincerely shocked. Not my favorite moment, but the most memorable, purely for the shock.

[@Angela-ur5yf]

I'm not sure how Steven could even Attend college he never was in school to begin with

[@gothicMCRgirl]

You can go to college without attending school through other means. It’s different everywhere, but generally you would have to pass certain exams or obtain the proper school credits through an educational institution. If you do that, a college can accept you. My mom didn’t finish high school, but she still got her diploma through another program and was able to go to college with it.

[@Angela-ur5yf]

@@gothicMCRgirl Fair point but Steven still is probebly lacking a lot of Fundumental knowledge since he spent his childhood just fighting with gems 🤔 Unless later on he did self studies but it would be still hard to pass all of the major exams that allow you to pass 🤔 well I'm not expert obvsly and like you said it's different in each country, I'm just speculating

[@gothicMCRgirl]

@@Angela-ur5yf I come from a country where people prioritized working over education, so there’s a large adult population that never even went to school or only went for a few years. And generally what happens is that there are educational programs that assist you in learning the basics. They provide you with study tools, and if you have a job, you can study at home and upload the assignments online, it’s almost like a school program in itself. But they’re super helpful and it gives people an opportunity to obtain a higher education. My mom didn’t go to college until she was in her thirties, but through a program like that, she managed to obtain the necessary credits and now she has a master’s degree :)

[@Camilo.andres]

I really enjoy when you stop and talk about the situation

[@SaraBaggins]

God, I remember watching this when it was on Cartoon Network. It was torture waiting for the finale. I can't wait for you guys to see the next one! I love watching grown men getting really into Steven Universe 😂

[@claudiotorres0473]

-Why don't you want him to propose -Cause he is SIXTEEN

[@Dez861]

I might be totally wrong here, and this might sound completely ridiculous, but I've always sort of looked at the Jasper episode as a commentary on toxic masculinity. Steven's always been very in tune with his feelings, and has always been one to talk things out, even when dealing with some incredibly violent adversaries (Jasper, White Diamond, Spinel.) Now, he's willfully ignoring his feelings out of shame and embarrassment, and using violence as a means to distract himself and feel in control.

[@MonsterGul]

Now you are completely wrong there. Jasper just likes to fight that's it, it brings her joy, like someone who likes boxing. She was so excited when Steven agreeded to fight with her, like someone agreeded to play with her. Steven was the one who took the guide of Jasper in the wrong way, he has no control of his emotions and that's a sign of weakness, and it's wise of Jasper to think like that, even if she doesn't like to talk about her feelings, she has a different way to express, like, even if she doesn't tell how she feels, you can still tell how she feels.

[@kittiesice]

Well, if you think about it... Ruby probably had the batch stored away with others in her gem and since her gem is in her hand, it would make it easy to pull out of nowhere.

[@birdbeep1s947]

BLUE CROSS BLUE DIAMOND??? Yeah, that fucking slaps oh my god

[@TitaneRam]

I have seen these episodes MULTIPLE TIMES ALREADY And the tention always feels to me as if I am watching for the first time

[@jhostynmeh]

i'm still thinking that any gem have an abilities to shattered another gem, it's like a decision to do it. and its ironic, cause Pink Diamond never shattered a gem and Rose as well (said it by Bismuth) even in the war, so the point is that Steven got everything wrong maded by the mistake of hiding him problems

[@laticalcohol8340]

It would be so cool if we got a mini series of the epilogue that is Steven Universe Future and have it be called Steven Demayo where it is just Steven trying to figure out his human side by meeting his grandparents, going to school, having therapy, ect. like just normal human stuff and him trying to heal on his own

[@oksobasicallyimmonky]

Remember that he didn't want to use the Breaking Point because they'd be just like the Diamonds. Now he's here shattering a gem with his own hands/powers

[@landon29]

Shattering a Gem isn't as hard as you think. Yeah most are resilient but they can still break if you hit the stones hard enough. There were a lot of Crystal Gems that were shattered during the war and were buried after, like Garnet said when we first saw those shard mutants. Jasper most likely killed a good number of them, since she was made to be the ultimate killing machine. Also, Amethyst got cracked when she fell off a cliff and hit a rock. She would have definitely died if they hadn't fixed Rose's fountain.

[@atomiclizard1215]

48:09 Steven’s about to have a BREAKDOWN BREAKDOWN.

[@rafaelmatos5851]

Every gem can be shattered, including Diamonds. However, Diamonds are the hardest and most powerful gems, so they are the ones that are less likely to be shattered by any other gem that is not a Diamond. That was the point that the Blue Zircon that defended Steven made during her reasoning, that a simple Rose Quartz would hardly be able to defeat a Diamond, much less shatter one.

[@rpgrage7711]

We've reached it everything is about to go off the deep end

[@wingedbluj1674]

Steven proposing to Connie creates SO MUCH secondhand embarrassment that it forms a black hole.

[@Rae.Harper]

I love how this whole series in the Steven Universe is basically about Steven learning that his childhood has left him with so much more trauma then he ever realised and how to work through it while also now figuring out what he wants to do with the rest of his life now that he knows 100% that it is *his* life and not Rose’s or Pink diamonds life… The first five seasons were about him learning that he is his own person and not just his mother, the movie then helps him confirm that then he now has to deal with all the stuff he had to deal with as a crystal gem that a child 14 and under shouldn’t have had to deal with. *Deep* lol

[@eliforabit]

booms blue cross blue diamond was such a good joke, lol

[@Artaimus]

I love that Jasper's horn is broken after she comes back.

[@LDIndustries]

I’ve always thought that Greg’s family is probably a military family. The very strict attitude, complete aversion to music from the 80’s, and the buzz cut add up to this at least for me

[@dannybob42]

And then things took a turn With the proposal Steven was very much asking for the wrong reasons; he wanted to be Stevonnie to mask over his insecurity, and while his heart is in the right place his mind is not and he's treating a big commitment as a solution to Connie going to college and not figuring himself out, and he didn't even consider that Connie still wants to be her own person. Still, not now was not a no, as much as Steven reacts like to it like a no, it's just not now because they're still teens! But when bad things happen, they tend to pile on. Compounded with the fact that Steven's mental trauma has been made apparent to him and the revelation that Steven has more family out there (family Greg didn't even let Steven know because he didn't want to reconcile) does cause a rift, so Steven falls into the only person he finds simple and straightforward, who ends up being the worst person too: Jasper. You try to avoid being your parents but sometimes the apple is too close from the tree, and Jock Steven's sparring with Jasper leads to him going a little too far, he got Jasper's respect but at what cost?

[@Nik-bx9kd]

I think the whole emphasis and thing with Greg and his parents has to boil down to what Steven really wanted. Like sure, his grandparents may be controlling and it may feel like a prison but it pales in comparison to everything Steven had to go through. I feel like Greg saying that "you dont want to go through what I went through" is so off putting and feels like Greg is putting Steven's experiences and traumas below his own. If given the chance to have either of those lives, I would choose Greg's 100%, no questions asked. Secondly, Steven can't really go to college. He never went to school and the only seen attempt was the episode that Lapis was introduced. Without accreditation and prior knowledge, he wouldn't be able to make it in a school setting. I feel like this was the major short sight that Greg had about Steven. Greg obviously didn't enjoy school and studying/extra curriculars so he kind of made the choice to not enroll Steven in a school either. It blocked off a major road of choices that Steven could have had, a way that makes him almost controlling like his own parents were.

[@jonasquinn7977]

I don’t think Greg is downplaying Steven’s trauma so much as referencing his own, Steven only THINKS he would rather have had Greg’s childhood because it would make his current problems easier. Greg actually experienced and has already dealt with his own trauma caused by it, he’s not saying that Steven can’t complain because his childhood was worse he’s saying it would’ve been traumatic in a different way. Plus circumstances really should be considered here, Steven with his powers would’ve been a DISASTER under those circumstances. Similarly sending a child that was going to developed powers to school would inevitably go terribly.

[@sconex8072]

Blue Cross / Blue Diamond insurance…yall are a trip😂

[@skywalkerjohn8965]

"My dimond" a bullet deadlier than any gem war

[@cjokersl]

The thing is im not sure Steven can go to college if he didn't even go to elementary school He has no formal education at all

[@WiseGaines]

Even fighting can be a healthy stress relief for some people. Everybody has their own way to relieve stress and not every option doesn’t fit everyone. Not sure why you fighting in the past has anything to do with it tho🤷🏾‍♂️

[@padparadscha9921]

For me the reason Jasper being revived worked better is now she is a literal walking reminder of what he did, the power he holds, and the consequences that can come if he doesn’t control it

[@timebubble8421]

Something i really like about future is that there isn't really a big threat to worry about. Life is completely fine. But it shows how you can still struggle and deal with stuff mentally. Like life might be all good but that does not mean you should feel like nothing is wrong.

[@NTA_Luciana]

Blue Cross Blue Diamond should have gotten more of a laugh

[@tylerbartlett28]

Steven's not a villian, he's a teenager. Also we the community wanted to see a gem actually get corrupted instead of already being corrupted well how about jasper? What about a gem actually shattering? How about jasper?

[@Sammy_The_Umbreon]

Honestly, Fragments broke the fandom, and i see why. I never thought the show would go there. The main character just commited mans_laughter (youtube keeps deleting comments-). You know, the character that got excited about a Cheeseburger backpack, and sang about cookie cat, and cries because snakes have no arms. _That_ character.

[@thebakersruview131]

Ironically Steven and his intense ptsd and unwillingness to resolve and acctually talk mixed with general teen angst caused him to be like the main villain of steven universe future.

[@HunterEQGtribute]

I wish we got more of Steven Universe. It was tear jerking to see it go.

[@venomouswyverns8819]

he cant go to college, he never went to school, its a big part of why he's mad, he never really got to be a human

[@randomspider725]

Never apologize for pausing for commentary. Your thoughts are what I’m here for and I love to see everyone’s analysis on things as they occur.

[@Graysland]

these episodes get insane. i seriously cant wait for yall to watch the finale!

[@glitteryvomitt]

28:50 he can't go to college not even just because of the gem stuff, but also he never even went to school so he wouldn't be able to get into college even if he wanted to lol

[@plasma8602]

i will just say think of shattering as cracking a gem, a gem can crack fairly easy, and if damaged enough it'll just fall apart. so its not TOO hard to shatter, but for example Amethyst cracked her gem from just falling on a rock. Also gem hardness differs between gems (its related to irl gems) Peridot doesn't poof easily because Peridot is a sturdy/tough gem.

[@SylverQrow]

In prior seasons, Garnet cracked her gem when she fell on it. Its wasn’t shattered but it was half there. We met Lapis cracked too as well as Eyeball got cracked, so shattering i don’t think is hard, but i agree physically i think it depends on the gens durability.

[@celestinenox]

The first time I watched the episode where Connie's mom talks about how trauma is held in the body and how early forms of trauma of all kinds can affect the way we deal with emotional stress and trauma when we get older... I ugly sobbed. I was a *MESS.* And "How can I live when every day I feel like I'm going to die?" WRECKED ME.

[@Flugel_Halogen]

This episode brings up a question I've been asking since I first saw it. Would Greg be better at living Steven's life than him? Would he get a handle on his powers sooner and have better control than Steven ever did?

[@noxfox4758]

12:46 If you go back through the original series, you’ll see all the names he just said and why he took them all.

[@FernandoTorres-bl6ul]

I think it was great for Steven to go and train with jasper to see his true power and realize how powerful and dangerous he is if he doesn’t have control of it

[@emondadon]

Early SU hits very different with the context of the entire show in perspective also yes shattering isnt really that hard. Jasper was gonna shatter amethyst in Crack the whip until Stevonnie got em out

[@sleepingpuporcat2601]

You know. Ironically that in SUF steve was always the one who said that they can change for the better but this whole final season he was really acting like a gem. Which was to resist change and change from others

[@bebe4583]

What pains me about the song “I’d rather be me with you” is that it connotes that he doesn’t want to live as himself, but escape his current reality and unsureness with a person (Stevonnie) that he hopes to become (i.e mentally stable and sure of their future)

[@damiennightmaresx7950]

the diamonds shattering other gems has made me wonder if white would pull a "kill yourself" as she can control people completely-

[@makislay8678]

Imagine her saying the low tier god speech 🤣

[@damiennightmaresx7950]

@@makislay8678 and she says it completely monotone like its just literally a fact xD

[@violetslytherin8159]

If only Sasha from Amphibia can give Steven therapy.

[@fabfilopedani]

It's funny how everything you were suggesting during these episodes, was going to happen next

[@fallenmidori]

man, ruff has been thru it today