Hacking an ebike: how to reprogram the Bafang middrive

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Stevenc22

Stevenc22

Күн бұрын

I go through some of the change i have made to my ebike programing to get the bike to perform the way i want it. Many popular commercial bikes also use Bafang motors and may be fully reprogrammable as well.
Link to another video where i show how to reprogram an Ebike using an Android App
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@JamesCampbellMr
@JamesCampbellMr 2 жыл бұрын
I think I can honestly say I think this this the best tutorial I've ever seen on anything on youtube, ever. So refreshing!
@mikeking245
@mikeking245 2 жыл бұрын
this guy smoked it
@Ariel-lt8ln
@Ariel-lt8ln 2 жыл бұрын
Great tutorial and I say this to you with love, were you high?
@ahmadahtezaz1408
@ahmadahtezaz1408 11 ай бұрын
Indeed
@RC-io9jv
@RC-io9jv 3 жыл бұрын
This is a good video for showing how to re-configure the settings... Thank You ! These modifications were just the ticket !
@MrScaramoosh
@MrScaramoosh 2 жыл бұрын
The gear shifter makes it a lot smoother and has natural peddling.
@johnwoodward7908
@johnwoodward7908 4 жыл бұрын
Great Video. I did have a 250 watt bafang but upgraded to the 750 watt. When I first tried the bike it was far to fierce in in the lower settings. Your settings are perfect in the 1 - 5 almost exactly mimic how the bike was with the 250 watt motor and 6 - 9 make the most of the extra power.
@sp4c3g
@sp4c3g Жыл бұрын
JEEEEEEEEEESUS are you telling me that phisically 250W and 750W motor are the same? is just software limited??
@stevenc22
@stevenc22 Жыл бұрын
No. The 750w and 1000w are the same
@ducksgoquackirl92
@ducksgoquackirl92 8 ай бұрын
@@stevenc22 NO they are not.the 750w is the BBS02B its limited to 25amps, the 1000w is a BBS03 (BBSHD). the bbso3 has larger core motor windings and its controllercan take upto 30amps before you get magic smoke.
@marcinmachnik9787
@marcinmachnik9787 3 жыл бұрын
by far the most concise and informative i've seen so far. great work.
@stevenc22
@stevenc22 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@marcinkopa
@marcinkopa 3 жыл бұрын
@@stevenc22 Hi, could you make a video about the free Speeed (3 letter e) app for configuring Bafang BBS series motors (and most Hub motors). It is the equivalent of the popular windows tool but in a robust phone version with bike display functionality and 25 language versions. thank you for a great job!
@stevenc22
@stevenc22 3 жыл бұрын
@@marcinkopa I cant seem to find it in the app store?
@marcinkopa
@marcinkopa 3 жыл бұрын
@@stevenc22 Unfortunately, at this time only Android phones/tablets are supported (iOS does not support usb-uart adapters). The good news is that an advanced and ridiculously cheap bluetooth module is in the final stages of development, and an iOS version will be coming along with it. github.com/mkopa/speeed
@stevenc22
@stevenc22 3 жыл бұрын
@@marcinkopa I use Android. Just ordered a otg cable. I'll check it out
@StephanCzajkowski
@StephanCzajkowski 3 жыл бұрын
i'll save everyone the hassle with finding the driver for the cable, take a magnifying glass (if the usb plug has clear heatshrink) and look at the code on the black chip, mine is ch340, spent 4 hours, once i found that it took 2 minutes
@Full_Throttle_no_Brakes
@Full_Throttle_no_Brakes Жыл бұрын
So where is the link?
@StephanCzajkowski
@StephanCzajkowski Жыл бұрын
@@Full_Throttle_no_Brakes if you can read you don't need a link
@lilcool6830
@lilcool6830 Жыл бұрын
What’s the black chip
@lukeo85
@lukeo85 10 ай бұрын
Also took me 2 minutes thanks to this comment. 😁👍
@BROWNDIRTWARRIOR
@BROWNDIRTWARRIOR 9 ай бұрын
Hey man, spent 40 bucks on the Bafang programming cable but when I plug it into my computer I don't get anything other than the sound of the computer recognising the device. Is this a driver issue or should I be getting a pop up menu? I have a Juggernaut 1000w mid drive. Thanks in advance.
@lennymiller7336
@lennymiller7336 10 ай бұрын
This is a great video for tuning your Bafang. The mild settings are perfect for my wife and has enough reserve power in the upper levels. Thanks, good job!
@stevenc22
@stevenc22 10 ай бұрын
Glad to help
@lennymiller7336
@lennymiller7336 10 ай бұрын
I’ve heard that you can configure these to work more like a torque motor, any idea how you would do that? I bike for exercise but at 71 with 4 back surgeries and 2 hip replacements I’m slowing down, I can only go 50 miles on a trike and I’m whipped. Thanks
@stevenc22
@stevenc22 10 ай бұрын
@@lennymiller7336 Lenny, what do you mean by "Torque Motor"?
@lennymiller7336
@lennymiller7336 10 ай бұрын
From my understanding the BBS02 is considered a cadence motor and a torque motor provides assist based on how much force you put on the pedals.
@stevenc22
@stevenc22 10 ай бұрын
I see. Yeah the Bafang doesn't quite work like that but you can easily program all the different assist levels to get the right amount of assistance so that you still get a good work out.
@sebastienhubert363
@sebastienhubert363 Жыл бұрын
hello Steven, Thx for your tutorial. It is really well done. I already watched other videos but your parameters are the best. I just modified speed limit of assist level 5 and 6 to a lower value than 100%... On Tuesday and Wednesday I'll test it on a longer trip. Thx
@RockG.o.d
@RockG.o.d 2 жыл бұрын
You might know this. Can the amps be reduced safely to only use 250 watts max? I only want one bike for private land and also road legal.
@stevenc22
@stevenc22 2 жыл бұрын
Yes of course. You can set a max amps limiting the bike to 250w
@bartbaddie347
@bartbaddie347 Жыл бұрын
I'm scrolling through the Bafang videos; this is the most understandable yet. But please explain all the settings on the Pedal Assist tab/menu; these are referred to in other videos but I still don't understand them. Also links to download the Bafang Tool would be useful, partic for W11 which (as of June 2023, many have been forced to upgrade).
@RobertAdams-ly5ku
@RobertAdams-ly5ku Жыл бұрын
This is the best guide for programming the BBS02, on KZbin
@nathancarra6134
@nathancarra6134 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video was very helpful, I copied your setting and it made an amazing difference thanks again.
@Kirixthemech
@Kirixthemech 3 жыл бұрын
Just a heads up. Depending on where you buy the cable and the cable brand you will end up searching online for compatible USB drivers before Windows will recognise the USB com port. But once you have done that it works like a charm
@MathieuTechMoto
@MathieuTechMoto 3 жыл бұрын
Extremely useful information, thank you !
@kevinjohnson8792
@kevinjohnson8792 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Steve,i just hand to replace my controller due to battery reporting issues and the throttle wasn't grunty and it was too fierce off the line on ped 3
@griznbeer
@griznbeer 3 жыл бұрын
This is so dang cool!
@markdunford1497
@markdunford1497 Жыл бұрын
Great tutorial butI I have a mac. Is there software out there that I can install on my mac?
@benjaminberger9629
@benjaminberger9629 Жыл бұрын
I've reduced the two Start Current to 1%, was too jerky for me at the start.. much smoother now also Slow-Start mode is the time it takes to ramp up to full current, the parameter you are describing is Start Degree (How long it takes for the motor to react when starting to pedal)
@stevenc22
@stevenc22 Жыл бұрын
No splitter cable. Plus it's best to make small changes at a time or else you can mess things up. Just start with you stock tune and tweak a few things that annoy you.
@johnbolt665
@johnbolt665 Жыл бұрын
If you have a Bafang mid-drive this is well worth doing!
@letsgofirarip
@letsgofirarip 4 ай бұрын
I believe Bafang motors are compatible with Eggrider controllers. Allows 2 separate profiles and every parameter becomes accessible including power level. Plug n play, at least on the BBSHD. Program via Bluetooth and app on your smart phone, --- boom.
@stevenc22
@stevenc22 4 ай бұрын
Yes, i have Eggrider is pretty good!
@BROWNDIRTWARRIOR
@BROWNDIRTWARRIOR 9 ай бұрын
Steven, is the software on the bike or do you have to get that separately? I just ordered the cable.
@espressologica
@espressologica 3 жыл бұрын
Hi there, great video, can the m600 be programmed with your cable. I have issues with too much speed like you. Especially with take off. Thanks. Annmaria
@Allyoucaneatmeat
@Allyoucaneatmeat 2 ай бұрын
Is there anyway to disable the speed sensor? It’s keeps giving me error code 21 and cuts off the motor.
@cd78
@cd78 Жыл бұрын
Superb explanation
@robwood3976
@robwood3976 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info, I have 2 bikes with Bafang middrive's, they're both 350w 36v units but they perform differently. Your info should I hope enable me to get them both the same. Thanks a lot, Rob
@derykmacleod4979
@derykmacleod4979 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! my controller died and needed a new one so got the newest model and pedal assist one went from 12mph to 17-19mph lol. I bring my puppy with me and try to go slower and it is a pita. Cable should be here saturday, can't wait to slow my recumbent trike down lol
@joaomarveloso1049
@joaomarveloso1049 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this very informative video. I have a Bafang 250w m400 motor. When I pedal I have a feeling that the engine only helps up to a certain point. Than I have to switch into a higher gear ( cassette gear ) and then it helps again. Do you know if there is a setting where I can prolong this help limit? I don't have a throttle, only pedal assist.
@stevenc22
@stevenc22 Жыл бұрын
Probably have a speed limit.
@joaomarveloso1049
@joaomarveloso1049 Жыл бұрын
@@stevenc22 Speed limit for every gear or generally? It is happening in every gear.
@BROWNDIRTWARRIOR
@BROWNDIRTWARRIOR 9 ай бұрын
Hey man, spent 40 bucks on the Bafang programming cable but when I plug it into my computer I don't get anything other than the sound of the computer recognising the device. Is this a driver issue or should I be getting a pop up menu? I have a Juggernaut 1000w mid drive. Thanks in advance.
@greybruce714
@greybruce714 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Steven for taking the time to make this video. It is an excellent source of information for me. I’ve got a Bafang 500w mid motor on my TerraTrike. I would like to slow it down in general. I am a little uneasy thinking that if I did something wrong I might “brick” my controller. Is there a feature for controlling the headlight/display function? Right now when I turn the headlights on in the daytime the display automatically dims so much that I can’t read it. Also, it would be nice to just have the headlight come on when I am riding as a safety feature. Thanks again!
@stevenc22
@stevenc22 2 жыл бұрын
Bruce not sure about the headlight but try it out. Pretty much impossible to "brick" it
@henningdoring9531
@henningdoring9531 8 ай бұрын
Great Video. I am thinking of running a throttle-only setup on my current build. Do you think it is even necessary to install the controller and sensors for this? If I do still require the controller, then is there a way to disable PAS while still allowing the throttle to sit at PA lvl 9 for example?
@stevenc22
@stevenc22 7 ай бұрын
You can disable PAS on 1-8 and then just program 9 to full throttle
@adeharris4457
@adeharris4457 Жыл бұрын
Great explanation of the spped settings but your wrong about the 1k motor the 750 is 24A & the 1k is 28A controlled but I agree to keep it lower anyway as the cooling on the motors is insufficient for full voltage to the controllers
@whiteXT
@whiteXT 2 жыл бұрын
My was factory set to 24. Goes good bends the high cog good
@JEVVJITSU
@JEVVJITSU 2 жыл бұрын
The first cable i bought did not work. It would be recognized by my computer and show up in the com port but it could not read the controller to show any info. I ordered a new one from a different vendor and it seems to be working. I have a 1000w motor with the 52v 19.2ah shark battery. Anyone have a video or post about fine tuning the same setup? 29' specialized rockhopper 2015, btw.
@bartbaddie347
@bartbaddie347 Жыл бұрын
Afterthought . . . if you were to revise the video, please highlight that . . . it's the motor/controller that decides when to pedal, not simply the rider. E.g. if you stop pedalling when approaching a Stop (with 18-wheelers rushing past at 100km/hr ) and you click down a few cogs in preparation to pull away . . . and turn a few pedal strokes to ramp the chain to the cogs, you can get a sudden surge in power . . . into the 18-wheelers.
@johnbolt665
@johnbolt665 Жыл бұрын
The speeed app for an and works way better than the windows program!
@MeysamShojaeeNejad
@MeysamShojaeeNejad 3 жыл бұрын
There is a Mode in Bafang motor called 'waking'. By keep pushing the minus button it get activated and the max speed will be around 5mph. I admit that 15 mph is too much for level 1, anyway.
@arrow1197
@arrow1197 3 жыл бұрын
Great video Steve and very helpful info
@olegpetelevitch4443
@olegpetelevitch4443 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you I tried to find info but their is very little . The shop i bought my bike from would not show me how to derestrict or program ? So i got the cord ! My BAFANG IS A 1400 WATT MID DRIVE . A little confusing . Thank you !
@chevalierdelorimier776
@chevalierdelorimier776 2 жыл бұрын
Hi , I have a Jorvik mt7 tricycle with a 250 w mid drive motor bafang M 500. I need to have more strength when I climb a steep slope. So I need a little more power when I m on the easy gear.should I slightly increase the ampere ? How many . Thanks for this amazing tutorial. Gabriel
@stevenc22
@stevenc22 2 жыл бұрын
Assume you have a 36v battery, you currently only pull 7 amps then for 250w. You could probably do 10amps without much problem. Make sure the m500 is actually programmable. Some of the new motors cannot be programmed
@chevalierdelorimier776
@chevalierdelorimier776 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Steven!
@phd9590
@phd9590 6 ай бұрын
Mr. Steven, is there also some magic soft suitable for bafang hub rear motors such as H400b 250W 36v. I got such with can bus and speed limit of 25km/h. Using DZ41 (speedometer) I was trying to change it but it seems that it's locked in controler by a vendor. I was thinking about BESST but have no clue it will work. Rgds.
@stevenc22
@stevenc22 6 ай бұрын
The problem with rear hub motors is often the hub might be Bafang but the controller is a completely different brand and then you cannot use the Bafang tool to reprogram.
@trevorselch5574
@trevorselch5574 3 жыл бұрын
This is fantastic. Thank you
@impermanenthuman8427
@impermanenthuman8427 2 жыл бұрын
So the motors can be unlocked to run at higher speeds but now the other parts of the kit that aren’t rated for use at 1000 watts risk being burned out or damaged? So if all the parts on the except the motor itself were built for the 1000 watt motor then you could clock the 750watt motor up to its full potential safely?
@stevenc22
@stevenc22 2 жыл бұрын
The kit can do 1000w. It's just software limited to 750w
@rickdeckard9810
@rickdeckard9810 4 жыл бұрын
7:33 Thanks for the great tutorial. You'd mentioned you wanted to override the throttle regardless of which PAS mode or gear bike was in, would there be a risk of damaging the components if you set throttle power to high?
@stevenc22
@stevenc22 4 жыл бұрын
No but the tutorial does recommend not putting the throttle so the way to level 9 because going up hill and punching the throttle could overload the controller
@goriverman
@goriverman 2 жыл бұрын
I cut back the amps to 25 it’s rated for 30. Start at a 10 % and increases as you go up
@skatygarcia3096
@skatygarcia3096 5 ай бұрын
Hello. Can this process also be applied to my Engwe bike, which has an unbranded motor? I definitely want to try it. In the Engine Pro 2.0 model, the motor cuts off power after 28 mph and continues only with pedal power. Is it possible to remove this limit, or more precisely, to make the motor continue to assist the pedal after this speed? Have you tested this software on motors other than Bafang? Thank you.
@skatygarcia3096
@skatygarcia3096 5 ай бұрын
I will do it for you, sorry. :) "Depends. Not whether your motor is bafang but whether the controller box is bafang. Many companies use bafang motor but their own proprietary controllers."
@freddore7885
@freddore7885 11 ай бұрын
Great video, as you experienced, my Bafang was quite strongly powered out of the box. I was able to follow your instructions and make changes to soften the power at low assist levels. But, then I find my display, a Varstrom touch screen is allow only 5 levels of assist. I've explored all the setting and everything I can find, but can not find the option to change from 5 to 9 levels of assist on the display. I've encountered a "pass word" option. However, I don't have a password and the instructions that came with the system are quite brief. Do you have any suggestions about the assist level option on the display, and/or how I might get through the password setting, change or whatever... Thanks Fred
@ARTSPECK
@ARTSPECK 10 ай бұрын
Try 0512 password
@ManMan-b5y5c
@ManMan-b5y5c 6 ай бұрын
I've set mine to 1 in slow start mode and it still doesn't kick in until I have at least 3 cranks of the pedal what's going on
@ויקטוראילוביץ
@ויקטוראילוביץ Жыл бұрын
Hello Great video, thanks. I have a bafang 750W 20 A, which functions very well but keeps getting error notes: code 30, code 10, etc.... Have you encountered this and know what to do? Maybe it's a display problem (c961), is there a way to reset it to the manufacturer's default?
@stevenc22
@stevenc22 Жыл бұрын
Code 30 is a communication error. Code 10 is an over heat error.
@stevenbronstein4686
@stevenbronstein4686 2 жыл бұрын
I know it has been awhile since you posted this but I thought I would try anyway. Great tutorial. I was hoping for some clarification. You suggested setting the throttle maximum to assist level 8 so you don't blow out the motor. The power is set to 100% on the previous page so wouldn't it be throttling at the same level ( 100%) as level 9. Thanks again
@All4Grogg
@All4Grogg 2 жыл бұрын
His current limit on PAS 8 is 80% of 18 amps, quick math; 18 x 0.8 = 14.4 amps max current; On a 48v battery system ; 14.4 x 54.6v = 786.24 watts @ full battery, 684 watts @ 47.5v 50% battery and 622 watts @ 43.2v 11% battery which is when the walk assist function should be considered to preserve the battery.
@whiskeykilmer1866
@whiskeykilmer1866 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video. Very informative.
@capt.lennymiller6524
@capt.lennymiller6524 10 ай бұрын
Great tutorial but where do I get the program I need? thanks
@stevenc22
@stevenc22 10 ай бұрын
There are links in description
@justiceonly9105
@justiceonly9105 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, Very grateful for you. Great information. Have a good day
@vsalvato53
@vsalvato53 Жыл бұрын
Hi, my new Accolmile City bike mounts a mid M200 Bafang motor, with BUS Can; I am told that Bus Can motors cannot be programmed... do you know if this is true? My aim is to skightky adjust the kevek of assistance on each of the 5 levels and unlock the speed limit (15 miles/h now).
@stevenc22
@stevenc22 Жыл бұрын
Yes the newest motors cannot be programmed. However you might be able to unlock the top speed by going into the secret menu on your bike display. Google which display you have and how to enter the secret menu
@mclainstaxc198
@mclainstaxc198 3 жыл бұрын
Nice.good to know... I have one question in my mind. It is Necessary to install a gear sensor? If you have, how it affect the performance ? Thank you..
@stevenc22
@stevenc22 3 жыл бұрын
I do not have one. A gear sensor isn't necessary as long as you let off the throttle between shifts to reduce the load on the drive train
@mixerfistit5522
@mixerfistit5522 2 жыл бұрын
I have one and it functions perfectly and I don't really notice it, without one if you fail to stop pedalling when shifting you will snap your chain pretty quickly If I hit a bump it'll sometimes activate briefly though, so maybe something to consider if you're riding trails
@scallahan6426
@scallahan6426 2 жыл бұрын
I purchased an Ariel 52V x class. It’s not a mid drive but a rear drive. The drive is by Bafang. I have the same problem with run away in PA. Doesn’t matter if you leave it in the stock 0-5 range or as Ariel says “change it to 0-9 and that will help”. That’s BS! Ariel says you can’t change the percentage on each pedal assist. I can’t try the programming cable you mentioned because its a female adapter going to the controller not a male. The only hope I have is that there’s a USB port on the LCD screen. If anybody has any suggestions or can point me in the right direction I would greatly appreciate it. Thank you.
@aNDy-qh1em
@aNDy-qh1em 3 жыл бұрын
That you for clear explanation! Very helpful, endeed! Subscribed.
@Droedelzak
@Droedelzak Жыл бұрын
Is this also compatible with a BAFANG M300? Or does this require other tools?
@stevenc22
@stevenc22 Жыл бұрын
If your bafang has a round connector for screen, probably compatible. If triangle connector, not compatible.
@garyhoward4064
@garyhoward4064 Жыл бұрын
Thanks. Are you implying that with a 25A controller, I can get the full 1000w power out of my BBS02?
@boccatxrx5023
@boccatxrx5023 2 жыл бұрын
Mate, if you can find a hack for the bloody Bosch gen 4 motor you will make a LOT of people very happy.
@stevenc22
@stevenc22 2 жыл бұрын
The newest bafang motors are no longer hackable. Damn manufacturers making life difficult.
@boccatxrx5023
@boccatxrx5023 2 жыл бұрын
@@stevenc22 yeah, its total bullshit. If i wanna go 40 thats my business, not the bloody bloke who sold me the thing😡 Plus they're clearly built to fail on top of it all...
@LimeXize
@LimeXize Жыл бұрын
brake lever or brake sensor? what to order?? I have mechanical brake sistem on my bike. PLZ HELP
@stevenc22
@stevenc22 Жыл бұрын
I use sensors. I wanted to keep my original brakes. The sensor just sticks to the underside of your brake lever.
@mdweed1
@mdweed1 Жыл бұрын
thank you, that's good information !!!
@johnchittenden3211
@johnchittenden3211 Жыл бұрын
Any suggestions regarding getting the USB cable to connect to the mid drive. I have a Bafang BBS02B 750 mid drive motor. I have downloaded drivers for the USB 340 cable. I have matched the COM port and baud rate. I have plugged in and powered on in the correct order, and nothing..., Any suggestions would be appreciated.
@stevenc22
@stevenc22 Жыл бұрын
Do you get a red led on the cable?
@yvesn58
@yvesn58 2 жыл бұрын
Steven, you didn't talk about the speed limit configuration. Can you configure it to override the limit?
@All4Grogg
@All4Grogg 2 жыл бұрын
Second tab "pedal assist", third drop down box. His reads "by displays command" which means he has gone into the "secret" screen on his display and set the max speed to his preference. I think you can use this drop down box to change the universal max speed at the controller or simply disable it.
@davidanderton2437
@davidanderton2437 Жыл бұрын
Same question, can you override this setting, or connect to the display to change it. In Australia most bikes are limited to 25km/h which is ridiculous.
@Billbobaker
@Billbobaker 3 жыл бұрын
Great video thanks for sharing it.
@velimir.l.georgiev
@velimir.l.georgiev 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the effort and for the video. Can I use a battery with 36v on 750w/1000w motor? You haven’t shown if you can change voltage below of 36v!
@stevenc22
@stevenc22 3 жыл бұрын
No. Motors have a set voltage. Some motors are 36v motors and some are 48v motors. You cannot use a 36v battery with a 48v motor regardless of settings in the controller
@velimir.l.georgiev
@velimir.l.georgiev 3 жыл бұрын
@@stevenc22 Steven, I have read, that some of the Bafang 1000W controllers has got an option to be used with 36V battery and to change the voltage. But no way 36V motor with 48V battery!
@stevenc22
@stevenc22 3 жыл бұрын
Be careful. A 1000w motor on a 36v battery means 35 amps. The wiring is not designed to carry 35amps. That is why 1000w motors only come in 48v because 48v uses less current.
@velimir.l.georgiev
@velimir.l.georgiev 3 жыл бұрын
@@stevenc22 The motor is 1000W 48V with controller of 30A! So, should be OK. My batteries are 36V/10Ah!
@stevenc22
@stevenc22 3 жыл бұрын
@@velimir.l.georgiev no it won't be! At 36v you will exceed 30a of the controller. Also a 10ah battery is small. You are going to be hitting it really hard pushing 1000w.
@crispy-k
@crispy-k 3 жыл бұрын
Bought a bb02b 750w a few weeks ago and it runs great, but i was curious as to how it was setup from the factory. So i bought the usb adapter and got the software. Mine was set to 24amp as default, and max is saying 24, not 25 like most out there. Anyways i changed it to 20 just to stay on the "lower" side of things. Thanks for the video ;) Reading tutorials is one thing, seeing how it's actually done and be able to just "copy paste" is a lot easier ;) 10/10
@lilleniyo5743
@lilleniyo5743 3 жыл бұрын
How fast does it go? Have the same thing
@crispy-k
@crispy-k 3 жыл бұрын
@@lilleniyo5743 With just the accelerator i can go around 45kmh on flat if there's no wind. If i pedal i can go 50 on flat. I already have over 2000km on it, and no issues so far, no weird noises or anything.
@bob-ny6kn
@bob-ny6kn 3 жыл бұрын
Kelly Controllers also are programmable. Contact their support and five them your controller info.
@AirbrushDGart
@AirbrushDGart 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video. One question though. If I set setting number one to 5km/hour will the motor start when it reaches 5km/h and will it also cut of at 5kmh? Second question, when using throttle can you pedal at the same time?
@brianeustace4175
@brianeustace4175 2 жыл бұрын
Not if you`re lieutenant Dan!
@Olafmacsambo
@Olafmacsambo 5 ай бұрын
Mentioning gear setting would help.
@dreadroberts7523
@dreadroberts7523 3 жыл бұрын
can you use value over 100% ? example. set 'assist #9' speed limit to 200% . Also, is there a minimum parameter for the motor that could damage something (the other end of exceeding maximum)? A window zone for operation min/max. . Love your settings.
@stevenc22
@stevenc22 3 жыл бұрын
No you cannot exceed 100% but you can increase the amps if you want more.
@stevenc22
@stevenc22 3 жыл бұрын
I don't think there is a minimum and I don't think a minimum would hurt anything
@MumfordJim
@MumfordJim 2 жыл бұрын
@@stevenc22 But NEVER put the AMP above the Max of 25 AMP for BBS02. You will blow the controller I believe maybe the motor. For a BBSHD I believe the Max is 30 AMP. That said your lower settings are safer and I believe will increase range. Great video!
@DigitalSamTV
@DigitalSamTV 3 жыл бұрын
just got my cable and programming now, so there are 9 levels in the software but i set my display to only show 5 levels (still goes to max power, just less time ti switch between) so what does it take from the sofware, like what is level 8 in the software, or its not counted ?
@stevenc22
@stevenc22 3 жыл бұрын
I think level 1,3,5,7,9 in the software relate to your 5 levels
@josefonseca1547
@josefonseca1547 2 жыл бұрын
Hello! This cable and softwear works on a rear motor hub Sutto (Bafang) 48v 1000W? Because my PAS not active the motor
@stevenc22
@stevenc22 2 жыл бұрын
Depends. Not whether your motor is bafang but whether the controller box is bafang. Many companies use bafang motor but their own proprietary controllers.
@snipes6266
@snipes6266 2 жыл бұрын
Steven I have american rider 3.0 dose tht work with tht?
@stevenc22
@stevenc22 2 жыл бұрын
That uses a bafang m600 motor which I think is the new CAN interface which is much more locked down. I don't think you will be able to reprogram
@mateuszkubala1800
@mateuszkubala1800 2 жыл бұрын
Hi. I don't have a Bafang motor, my one is a 48v 1000w ebike compatible with "SW900" LCD from Aliexpress. Two problems: 1. All PAS levels and settings are too fast, so throttle is the only reasonable option 2. Setting the current limit, doesn't seem to do anything, as I still reach up to 1500W Would I be able to reprogram the silver box with this USB device, possibly if make my own software through reverse engineering I know my LCD uses UART, and connects with a five pin rectangle plug, with five coloured wires (5V, 48V, TX, RX, Ground), adapters exist.
@stevenc22
@stevenc22 2 жыл бұрын
This software is specific for Bafang controllers. Sorry.
@naimi9584
@naimi9584 Жыл бұрын
Initial response: Got this bike for my friend. kzbin.infoUgkxUiL0GnyDjP32RJdd660sP8mZk4CRLTCJ Delivery was fast. And the friend was surprised I would order it when she had never suggested she wanted anything but the pedal bike she had. She has now ridden the bike two times and gives it a 10 and says it is very fun. We have some hills in our town that are very challenging to climb on a typical bike. But tonight she went up with the pedal assist and loved it. I was way behind on my standard bike, huffing and puffing. Now she is no longer lagging behind me. This thing is powerful enough that a person could go around town without any pedaling. She likes to get some exercise so on flat ground she hits the red button to turn off pedal assist and only uses the twist throttle when she's in a tough spot. The bike looks good. It is really a very nice bike for the friend. Now for me, when I get an electric bike, I'm twice her size and will be looking for a bigger watt motor and battery. But this one is just wonderful for my friend. I am happy with this purchase.
@impermanenthuman8427
@impermanenthuman8427 2 жыл бұрын
What about the 250 watt limited motors? Are they also capable of being unlocked up to a greater potential or will that also likely risk damage? A seller told me that with the 250 watt Bafang kit, that all the other parts other than the motor itself will work with the 500 watt motor, so theoretically in places where motors are limited to 250 watts, someone could fairly easily swap out the motor for a 500 watt motor and take the bike off road out in the backcountry and use the extra power to carry gear, then swap the 250 watt motor back in when you want to ride the bike in public again? Legally the motor must have 250 watts written on the motor to be street legal where I am, but if the 250 watt Bafang could be unlocked up to a higher potential safely without needing other higher rated parts which would normally come with a higher rated watt motor then that is very interesting is genuinely safe to do and the motor kit stays equally reliable ?
@impermanenthuman8427
@impermanenthuman8427 2 жыл бұрын
In fewer words, what wattage can you safely unlock the motors up to that are factory limited to 250 watt for local road rules? Can they also be clocked up to 1000 watts or just 500? Thanks again
@stevenc22
@stevenc22 2 жыл бұрын
I don't know much about the 250w version, but after a little googling I think the 250w version has the 350w controller on it so you can likely overclock b the 250w version to 350w. No more.
@MumfordJim
@MumfordJim 2 жыл бұрын
I think the AMP setting on the 250 will be much lower. Something like the range of 10-15. What every the original is maybe 15? Do not go beyond that. You are only asking for trouble.
@tempusfugit6820
@tempusfugit6820 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome information!! Is there a setting for getting the motor to disengage right away when the pedals stop?
@stevenc22
@stevenc22 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly there probably is but I haven't looked for it. Check the two guides I linked to, they are way more in-depth
@benythjet
@benythjet 4 жыл бұрын
Stop delay under pedal assist tab
@calvintanner7897
@calvintanner7897 11 ай бұрын
What cable would I need for the Bafang C961 controller, and where can I buy this cable ?
@stevenc22
@stevenc22 11 ай бұрын
the C961 is your display, not your controller. You need to check which Motor you have to determine if you can use the reprogramming cable or not.
@calvintanner7897
@calvintanner7897 11 ай бұрын
I 🤔 I'll know exactly what's going on as far as the controller, the motor, and the display as far as reprogramming. Thank you for your help.
@MrLottolee1
@MrLottolee1 2 жыл бұрын
I have a avaris 3.6 bike but cannot find the 5 pin lead, only one I can see is a 9 pin ahhh any help appreciated
@kevinlavin1944
@kevinlavin1944 3 жыл бұрын
Great job gave me a lot of new info Thank you
@GR14702
@GR14702 Жыл бұрын
Is this also possible with bafang M200?i want to increase themax speed.
@ps99m
@ps99m 7 ай бұрын
does this work on the bafang m420?
@stevenc22
@stevenc22 7 ай бұрын
Models with a round connector for the screen work. Models with triangle connectors for screen do not work.
@DigitalSamTV
@DigitalSamTV 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent info man
@desertweasel6965
@desertweasel6965 Жыл бұрын
You can also get a otg cable and do this on your phone.
@stevenc22
@stevenc22 Жыл бұрын
Yeah thanks. I made another video about doing it on you phone 👍
@joshsontems-io7pe
@joshsontems-io7pe Жыл бұрын
Can I put the bbshd 30 amp controller in my bbs02 so I can run it at 25 without having to worrying about the motor and controller overheating?
@stevenc22
@stevenc22 Жыл бұрын
I would say yes but you might as well just changed the motor of you spring bbshd.
@joshsontems-io7pe
@joshsontems-io7pe Жыл бұрын
@@stevenc22 I live in a state where for u to use an e-bike without a license the motor has to be a 750w motor…. I wanna be able to get 1300w but while it’s in a 750w case so tht if a cop every looks at my motor it still says it’s 750w motor so they won’t ask for my license
@stevenc22
@stevenc22 Жыл бұрын
@@joshsontems-io7pe You can't push a 750w motor to 1300w. That's too much.
@mennopieters3512
@mennopieters3512 3 жыл бұрын
Can you lower the torque settings somewhere i have a belt drive but its recommended max 80nm torque but i want the bbshd on my bike
@stevenc22
@stevenc22 3 жыл бұрын
Sort of. You can reduce the power ramp up which is the equivalent of reducing torque
@mennopieters3512
@mennopieters3512 3 жыл бұрын
@@stevenc22 thnx
@marcusmarvin01
@marcusmarvin01 Жыл бұрын
The plug of my mid kit drive is green but not round, it's more like a triangle shape... What can I do? Can't find the right programming cable... I have an m300 bafang belgocycle
@stevenc22
@stevenc22 Жыл бұрын
The newer kits with the triangle plug are not easily programmable. Bafang changed the communication bus and the newer style hasn't really been cracked yet
@marcusmarvin01
@marcusmarvin01 Жыл бұрын
😭😭😭
@marcusmarvin01
@marcusmarvin01 Жыл бұрын
​@@stevenc22 there's a usb plug on the left side of the screen, no way to use it?
@stevenc22
@stevenc22 Жыл бұрын
No those are dumb USB plugs for charging your phones only. No data
@georgepene6097
@georgepene6097 3 жыл бұрын
Great video , my question is if will works also for a front wheel, I've changed my motor and now I can't adjust the pedal assistance and it shows me a to higher speed than real.
@stevenc22
@stevenc22 3 жыл бұрын
Only if you have a Bafang controller can you use this cable. It's likely you have a wiring issue or your controller isn't compatible with your motor.
@georgepene6097
@georgepene6097 3 жыл бұрын
@@stevenc22, thanks for answering so quickly. Can it be that even if its the same connector and the same brand that its not compatible with the controller?
@stevenc22
@stevenc22 3 жыл бұрын
@@georgepene6097 if it's the same brand with the same wiring, I think it should work. Makes me think you have a wiring issue. Is your pedal sensor working? Does the display cycle between the different PAS settings? What does work and what doesn't work?
@georgepene6097
@georgepene6097 3 жыл бұрын
@@stevenc22, pedal sensor it's working and on the display its showing the rong speed, you can adjust the pedal assistance to minimum but the motor its running at full speed
@stevenc22
@stevenc22 3 жыл бұрын
@@georgepene6097 does the motor always run at full speed? What about the throttle? Does that work right?
@MrMafioza1995
@MrMafioza1995 2 жыл бұрын
i have 750W bbs02b with 48v 13.5ah battery. should it be possibleto boost it to 1000w or 900.. regarding battery ah ?Thanks .
@stevenc22
@stevenc22 2 жыл бұрын
Yes. If your battery can deliver 20amp you can increase to 1000w
@sledking1236
@sledking1236 Жыл бұрын
If you program it does that void the warranty?
@stevenc22
@stevenc22 Жыл бұрын
The program is direct from the manufacturer. So just using it won't void the warranty. However if you over amp the motor, that could void the warranty
@omnitair4388
@omnitair4388 3 жыл бұрын
Very good and clear video! I have 1 thing I haven't figured out yet, my display says "Intelligent" in the main screen like "Bafang". How do I customise this?
@stevenc22
@stevenc22 3 жыл бұрын
Mine also says "intelligent" during startup. I dont think this can be customized.
@omnitair4388
@omnitair4388 3 жыл бұрын
@@stevenc22 You can change it as some are programmed to say Bafang instead, I just haven't figured out how yet.
@mixerfistit5522
@mixerfistit5522 2 жыл бұрын
This is probably part of the display itself so would need to be connected to that with relevant software. I'm hoping to find something that will allow me to change the splash screen - I also have a greyed out background option with no way to select alternatives so it would seem it's possible to customise
@KSPIRITS8
@KSPIRITS8 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. Thanks
@cippalippa5368
@cippalippa5368 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, i have bafang 250w 36v. How to setup in Low Battery protection and Current limit section? Thanks!
@stevenc22
@stevenc22 2 жыл бұрын
For 36v your low battery cutoff is 28v and your current limit should be about 10amps.
@cippalippa5368
@cippalippa5368 2 жыл бұрын
@@stevenc22 Thank you very much!!
@make.and.believe
@make.and.believe 10 ай бұрын
I have discovered that my Bafang motor cuts out when the battery power hits 30%. The whole system shuts down completely. Is there a way to lower this in the programming? I'd really love to have 100% capacity instead of only 70%... Also - for Wheel Diameter - is this referring to the front or back wheel? I have a 29inch front wheel and a 20inch back wheel. The speed monitor is hooked up on the back wheel - so should I set the wheel diameter to match the back wheel? BTW I'm running a BBHSD motor. Thanks for your guidance Steven or anyone here in the comments who knows :)
@stevenc22
@stevenc22 10 ай бұрын
Likely the BMS is turning off the battery, not the Bafang
@make.and.believe
@make.and.believe 10 ай бұрын
@stevenc22 Interesting. Thanks for your guidance! I'll investigate. I know BMS prevents overcharging, but I didn't know it could cause a battery cutoff.
@stevenc22
@stevenc22 10 ай бұрын
Yes. If batteries are drained below 3v a battery they get damaged. So a BMS will turn off the battery if too high or too low
@kencook4956
@kencook4956 3 жыл бұрын
Well done. Thanks.
@ManMan-b5y5c
@ManMan-b5y5c 6 ай бұрын
What does double signal 24 mean in the pedal assist page.
@stevenc22
@stevenc22 6 ай бұрын
Don't know but the instructions say that is the only option that works. So not change.
@ManMan-b5y5c
@ManMan-b5y5c 6 ай бұрын
@@stevenc22 oh i changed my to DH12 i thought it had something to do with the type of Candace sensor you have but maybe in wrong
@ManMan-b5y5c
@ManMan-b5y5c 6 ай бұрын
@@stevenc22 I did change it and my bike works is something to do with what kind of pedal sensor you have maybe.
@ManMan-b5y5c
@ManMan-b5y5c 6 ай бұрын
my motor is a bafang rear hub 48v 750w motor with LB-AK-001 controller and is programable
@BernhardSchlegel
@BernhardSchlegel Жыл бұрын
Which controller are you using? Looks like 500C to me?
@stevenc22
@stevenc22 Жыл бұрын
Yes 500c
@BernhardSchlegel
@BernhardSchlegel Жыл бұрын
@@stevenc22 thanks for the swift reply. I'll get the same, then.
@sp4c3g
@sp4c3g Жыл бұрын
wait a minute ....250W and 500W motor are the same hardware inside but software limited??
@robertlockyer2287
@robertlockyer2287 2 жыл бұрын
Hi mate, Would you know if there is a programme cable for the bafang green 5 pin triangular cable?
@stevenc22
@stevenc22 2 жыл бұрын
Not that I know of. The triangle plug is an entirely different system and last time I checked no one had cracked it yet
@robertlockyer2287
@robertlockyer2287 2 жыл бұрын
@@stevenc22 Thanks for the reply mate. May just have to wait till my unit craps itself and then buy a display with the round plug.
@stevenc22
@stevenc22 2 жыл бұрын
There is some basic programming that can be done with the triangle connector. I found this. US $31.90 45%OFF | BAFANG BESST Programming Cable Speed Limit Release Wheel Diameter Setting M400 M600 M510 All CAN Protocol Motor Dedicated Line a.aliexpress.com/_mKXKWYK
@robertlockyer2287
@robertlockyer2287 2 жыл бұрын
@@stevenc22 cheers Steven. I will look into it to see if it's worth it. Would have been nice to be able to set percentages for pedal assist and stuff like the non canbus type programmer cable. Oh well such is life as they say.
@vHypnoticx
@vHypnoticx 2 жыл бұрын
hey mate im having an issue where no matter what i do i cant have the throttle work on 0 assist
@stevenc22
@stevenc22 2 жыл бұрын
Did you manually assign the throttle to assist 8?
@mikezof3690
@mikezof3690 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks very useful video. I was messing with the controller settings too but i couldnt figure it out. Question: my bafang bbshd has a limit of 500w when it has liw battery. Is there any chance that you know how to fix it?
@stevenc22
@stevenc22 4 жыл бұрын
I'm not aware of that setting? Could the battery be amp limited. As voltage drops amps need to rise and you could be maxing out the amps on battery.
@stuartthomoson
@stuartthomoson 2 жыл бұрын
Have you tried on bafang hub motors?
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