Bafang BBS01, BBS02 and BBSHD Reprogramming

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Ali Bro

Ali Bro

Күн бұрын

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In this video I take you through how I reprogrammed my Bafang BBS01 Mid Drive.
It always annoyed me that the throttle would only bring you up to the max speed for the setting on the display and didn't work at all in zero. I felt the throttle should override the display setting and give full power when I wanted it to. This would help when pulling out into traffic or riding along with someone who was speeding up and slowing down.
Please Note. I have no connection to Lunacycle, I receive nothing from them for this video and the link to their shop is not sponsored.
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@tomarvidson3290
@tomarvidson3290 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks much, your driver info got me hooked up . Your explanation of how to get connected to your Bafang controller is the only clear complete explanation I have seen.
@alibro7512
@alibro7512 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your kind words. I'm hoping to post a video soon showing how to connect to a free app so keep an eye out for it.
@tonywalker5402
@tonywalker5402 3 жыл бұрын
At last!!!! A video that was clear enough to get me through the process to enable me to re program my Bafang motor. I am very grateful to you. The part on the drivers is where I was going wrong and now I have succeeded in getting the driver installed and was able to re program. Well done and thank you for your effort.
@alibro7512
@alibro7512 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your kind words. It took me a bit of time to figure out the drivers too and I'm a computer engineer. 🙂
@fedesanto1080
@fedesanto1080 2 жыл бұрын
Same here! Thanks man
@daltontinoco7084
@daltontinoco7084 2 жыл бұрын
@@alibro7512 bru, I'm a physicist and do some csci. Computers -- specifically drivers, are just made to mess with us all and torment us.
@RC-io9jv
@RC-io9jv 2 жыл бұрын
This is the best video for showing how to re-configure the settings... Thank You ! It worked perfectly. The LunaBafangConfigTool download out there online somewhere proved to be the correct software tool, or maybe the most recent update. My new build of BBS02 was frustrating, exactly as described here, just toooo fast at level 1 and 2... Also, I really did want the thumb throttle to be a zippy thruster when I need it. These modifications were just the ticket ! I will probably add the gear shift sensor to see if i can make it a bit smoother shifting, but it's already loads better now. .... Update: I didn't bother with the gear shift sensor... I just stop peddling for a moment, shift, wait a moment and it practically shifts by itself, super smooth especially up-shifting. Then resume peddling, no worries. I love it, and one less cable to monkey with... also (one year later) - it's still working perfectly, and i disconnected the brake sensors too - just another cable not needed. Stick with the idea of not peddling when shifting.
@alibro7512
@alibro7512 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the kind words. I found by reducing the Stop Delay it made a big difference to gear changing, also reducing the start current prevented the thump when changing gear. If you have an Android phone check out the Speeed App. I made a video about it here. kzbin.info/www/bejne/apWxhWZrqd6ZgJI
@_adam1
@_adam1 Жыл бұрын
yo buddy. i just built my bafang bbs02. are the brake sensors needed in your opinion? the brake sensors magnet sucks and i cannot find a good configuration for them and want to know if i can just ignore them and not use them. so when you shift gear, you just stop pedaling? do you use the throttle to move the chain though to shift the gear? thx
@rc-uw9wo
@rc-uw9wo Жыл бұрын
@@_adam1 hi... yeah, i didn't like the configuration of the magnets at all, and their brake levers were cheapo. I just stop pedaling, shift, then resume pedaling... I rotate the pedals gently and the shift happens. It's fairly smooth and quiet. Ali Bro said to reduce the start current to prevent the thump. That is true.
@gundam42d64
@gundam42d64 Ай бұрын
I cant download the app the app store is stopping me.
@gundam42d64
@gundam42d64 Ай бұрын
@@alibro7512 My phone wont let me. I have a pixil 6
@diggy2107
@diggy2107 3 жыл бұрын
I will come back to this video when the time comes because you make it very easy to follow, thank you, since I'm here seems like a good channel to subscribe to!
@1uncleriko
@1uncleriko 3 жыл бұрын
I'm ordering my cable tonight. Thanks for the video.
@ericksingleman195
@ericksingleman195 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, this is the first video I've seen that tells you where to get the software.
@Flintynicknacks
@Flintynicknacks 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent upload- By far the clearest video on the subject. Thank you!
@pennytr8er
@pennytr8er 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, brother man. Did mine today. Bafang 750W 48V. Nice video tutorial. Very informative and simply put. The USB driver is most helpful and informative. Kudos.
@alibro7512
@alibro7512 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate. You should check out my latest video for the new Android App. No need to worry about drivers. 👍
@pennytr8er
@pennytr8er 2 жыл бұрын
@@alibro7512 Done test ride and much better. Awesome. Yes, watch the app, cool, Didn't know there is an app for Bafang. Thanks. Very nice.
@smallhatshatethetruth7933
@smallhatshatethetruth7933 2 жыл бұрын
I installed mine last night and been riding today. Coming from a tongsheng I am not impressed. The motor is so unpredictable. I want the wattage to go up with assist level regardless of speed.
@RobertAdams-ly5ku
@RobertAdams-ly5ku Жыл бұрын
@@smallhatshatethetruth7933 Have you reprogrammed it since this post, how is it now, and could you explain what you didn't like about it when you first tried it. I'm trying to decide between a tongsheng and a BBS02 750 watt, but unless I can try them both before I buy, I'ts really hard to know which to go for
@davel2734
@davel2734 2 жыл бұрын
Good video and well explained. I just may try this. Thank you.
@robo3142
@robo3142 3 жыл бұрын
Thank U for your knowledge you've opened my eyes , take care
@ericb8737
@ericb8737 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much I was having a hard time with this, This helped alot!
@petermarkovic2011
@petermarkovic2011 2 жыл бұрын
Just a write button on left side write setting just for that single screen youve had opened. (Basic,Throttle,Pedal assist) If you want to write all settings to write to controller you must click "Write flash"
@mattbrewer985
@mattbrewer985 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for a great explanation and detail of how to. Really appreciate it. subscribed.....
@alibro7512
@alibro7512 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. 🙂 You should check out the App video I made a few weeks ago.
@mattbrewer985
@mattbrewer985 2 жыл бұрын
@@alibro7512 i just found it! all in need is a usb-c to otg cable! That will be much more handy for getting everything dialed vs lugging a laptop on on a trike. Thanks again!
@alibro7512
@alibro7512 2 жыл бұрын
@@mattbrewer985 Yes, using the phone is better and the help file in the App is brilliant. Good luck with it.
@magin2014
@magin2014 3 жыл бұрын
Waooo excellent video simple straight to the point thank you
@alibro7512
@alibro7512 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it.
@steveedwards4495
@steveedwards4495 26 күн бұрын
Just watched this again as mine stopped working. Used this setup when I got it to make changes and worked fine. Just tried the bike, full battery and won't turn on. No display or anything. 45v out the battery cradle. 45v through and out the motor, and 45v to the display cable. But just won't switch on with the press and hold. Going off I hook this up it will tell me a fault 🤦‍♂️ thanks for the vid. Again. Lol.
@YooperDanKulka
@YooperDanKulka 4 ай бұрын
Outstanding video!
@jons6125
@jons6125 3 жыл бұрын
2.7 or even a bit less volts under load is a fair cut off I believe. Cells will soon recover to 3v or so when you stop using them. But avoiding the extremes will always be better for longevity. Very interesting video thanks 👍
@alibro7512
@alibro7512 3 жыл бұрын
3V is just me being cautious. If I recall correctly the default setting is closer to 3.3V which is just silly really and will leave you stranded for no good reason.
@jons6125
@jons6125 3 жыл бұрын
@@alibro7512 Yeah when your stranded and an ebike enthusiast nice to have some control and not have the machine make decisions for you.
@dougfurr5217
@dougfurr5217 3 жыл бұрын
If you have the Ludicrous controller, the amperage is double what is listed in programming. IE 25A is actually 50A. Just be aware. Those using the standard controllers need not worry about it. I do recommend the Ludicrous controller though. 3000W is FUN.
@Bobster0007
@Bobster0007 3 жыл бұрын
luna has no more V2 controllers to sell.
@DavidCollicutt
@DavidCollicutt 2 жыл бұрын
How would the settings need to be adjusted/configured if you had the ludicrous controller?
@magzire
@magzire 3 жыл бұрын
great help, thanks
@mygoalcrash8077
@mygoalcrash8077 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks video ! it helps!
@tonystone3397
@tonystone3397 Жыл бұрын
Great stuff, thanks for sharing.
@alibro7512
@alibro7512 Жыл бұрын
Thanks
@MichaelJones-vi8uq
@MichaelJones-vi8uq 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you sooo much!! So clear!! :)
@alibro7512
@alibro7512 2 жыл бұрын
Your welcome. 😊
@mucy2807
@mucy2807 3 жыл бұрын
Great video - subbed & 👍ed.....
@ivorbiggin7874
@ivorbiggin7874 2 жыл бұрын
Nice video ali....came across it as im looking to get a bafang for my bike...I hear the belfast accent....from down the road in bangor myself....hopefully if I get stuck you can assist me....keep up the good work
@ivorbiggin7874
@ivorbiggin7874 Жыл бұрын
Could you pm me ali
@mikesl1573
@mikesl1573 3 жыл бұрын
Very informative and clear manner. The problem with my BAFANG is that irrespective of how hard or soft I peddle the bike accelerates the same up to its stage speed limit. There does not seem to be a relationship between cadence and acceleration Can that be adjusted?
@alibro7512
@alibro7512 3 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately I don't think so. I don't believe there are torque sensors in the system so it will only detect you pedaling or not pedaling. You can adjust the current delivered for each stage but that's about all. It's another reason why I wanted to configure the thumb throttle to work up to full power for any stage.
@warrenkawamoto8660
@warrenkawamoto8660 3 жыл бұрын
@@alibro7512 If you configure the thumb throttle to work up to full power, is the input variable? Or does it still act like an on/off switch? I'm looking for variable adjustment to smoothen out the acceleration.
@alibro7512
@alibro7512 2 жыл бұрын
@@warrenkawamoto8660 Sorry I missed this question. The throttle works as you would expect if you make the changes in the video.
@Cla682
@Cla682 9 ай бұрын
Thank you for your video! It is very helpful. I just got the usb cable and did the way you explained. After that I have taken a test drive and it works better now. But something looks bizarre to me: it takes more time&speed to feel the motor working. Before programming, I used only 1-4 steps on the display. Now, It seems I have to use 6-9, otherwise I’m not satisfied. Did I something wrong?
@alibro7512
@alibro7512 9 ай бұрын
Glad to hear that it helped. I haven't looked at this much for a while so cannot say for sure but it sounds like you made a change to the pedal assist settings. I'd recommend you download the Speeed App as the software does the same thing from an Android phone but the help section is much better. Even if you don't use the App it's worth installing for this alone.
@MrChelseafc88
@MrChelseafc88 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the vid. How much has your output changed since changing your controller from 18amp to 25amp? Do you now get 1000w nominal? I'm assuming your motor is a 750w. Also a little tip, I'd advice lowering your controller a few amp or you will eventually blow it and the bafang controller isn't the cheapest bit of kit to replace
@alibro7512
@alibro7512 3 жыл бұрын
It's been a while since I made this video but I don't think I changed the current from 18 to 25, it was 25A already. My Bafang was bought as 500W so I'm not sure why it claims to have a max current of 25A which would be 1000W. Maybe that is a peak current but the normal current is 18A. It would be interesting to hear what others see when they connect a laptop to their controller.
@MrChelseafc88
@MrChelseafc88 3 жыл бұрын
@@alibro7512 The 250w, 500w and 750w all have the same 25amp controller unit that as far as I knew was preset to 18amp on all three but maybe I'm wrong. The 1000w has a 30amp and is preset to 30amp as its so over built and can easily handle that. I have ordered a programming cable and I'm planning on tweaking my 750w so I can let you know what the preset is on that controller if you like? Thinking about it now, I'm thinking that my controller is prob ranked up too as I hit 1370w peak power but I have had a few mosfets changed to draw slightly more power so I'm unsure if its this drawing the extra power or not. Thanks for the reply, I appreciate it 👍
@trondhalsteinmoe8545
@trondhalsteinmoe8545 2 жыл бұрын
Hello. Thank you very much for a very instructive video. which I followed carefully. :) My main interest was to adjust the speed limit, because my normal speed when not using the motor is around 35 km , and consequently it feel strange that it cuts at 25. I don't have a throttle and therefore I am a bit unsure how to do that. Can I do it under "pedal assist" and change the "By display command?", or will it work if I change the speed limit under Throttle, although I don't have one? By the way I dont get any confoirmation when I have pressed "Write". Any idea why this does not happen? Greetings from hilly Norway.
@alibro7512
@alibro7512 2 жыл бұрын
Hi I can't answer your question I'm afraid as I haven't seen the same issue. BTW say hi to my cousins the Kindingstads. 😄
@frostedlambs
@frostedlambs 2 жыл бұрын
no the throttle will only change the throttle speed and the assist will change your assist speed
@martinauker6258
@martinauker6258 3 ай бұрын
Dear ali bro what is the factory setting for the bafang bbs02? thank you for the video.
@robw5735
@robw5735 2 жыл бұрын
Have you tried programming it using the mobile app "speed" you can program your bafang bbs01,02,bbshd on the fly provided you have the programming cable attached to a usb dongle for the phone. Preddy good app that's free and beats pulling out the lap top when need to change settings.plus it's great to be able to change settings as you go
@alibro7512
@alibro7512 2 жыл бұрын
I haven't seen that app. It sounds interesting.
@robw5735
@robw5735 2 жыл бұрын
@@alibro7512 it's at the playstore just search "speeed bafang" preddy good app I wonder why not many bafang owners heard of it.
@Topsiekku
@Topsiekku 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@paulsedyps84
@paulsedyps84 Жыл бұрын
Ive had 32-34mph on the flat out of my 750watt bafang mid drive with no tuning. Surely it depends on the weight of the bike you put it on and riders weight ect
@snipes6266
@snipes6266 Жыл бұрын
I have a question can I do this with my american rider 3.0 electric bike ? Just asking
@mennopieters3512
@mennopieters3512 3 жыл бұрын
Do you need to re program the bbshd to use a 52v battery or then back from 52v to 48v?
@alibro7512
@alibro7512 3 жыл бұрын
Sorry mate, I don't know. I've only ever used a 36V (10S) battery with mine.
@AirbrushDGart
@AirbrushDGart 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video. One question though. If I set setting number one to 5km/hour will the motor start when it reaches 5km/h and will it also cut of at 5kmh? Second question, when using throttle can you pedal at the same time?
@alibro7512
@alibro7512 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry I'm not sure what you mean by setting 1? If you mean Pedal assist level 1 then the motor will assist you up to 5kmh then maintain that speed. Yes you can pedal while using the throttle however depending on how you have changed the settings (and it seems how confused the controller is) the throttle may not override the pedal assist max speed. Since making this video I discovered the Speeed app for Android phones which is brilliant for this. It even includes a very useful Help section.
@AirbrushDGart
@AirbrushDGart 2 жыл бұрын
@@alibro7512 ok thanks for the reply If I got it right the motor will start and get up to speed you have set for example 5km/h and does the motor cut off when it goes over 5km/h
@alibro7512
@alibro7512 2 жыл бұрын
I think it stops spinning when you reach the cut off speed but because motor has a built in freewheel crank you won't notice the difference. Maybe next time I'm out I'll set the speed low and while coasting I'll look down and check if the chain is still turning. I don't think it does but I'm not 100% certain.
@AirbrushDGart
@AirbrushDGart 2 жыл бұрын
@@alibro7512 thanks yes please let me know 😊 have u biked with 0 pedal assist. I mean if you would like to just use the bike like a normal one would I feel any resistance from the motor.
@alibro7512
@alibro7512 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, I've used it many times without assistance. It is a little more draggy than a normal bike but not too bad. You're also carrying a few extra kilos which don't help.
@_adam1
@_adam1 Жыл бұрын
hi ali bro, just wanna ask a quick query. i want to have my ebike where it is just throttle only (full power if i fully push down the throttle) and 0 pedal assist. so i either have to pedal or push the throttle. do you know the best way to configure this? i know pas 0 disables the motor completely. not sure how to configure this.
@alibro7512
@alibro7512 Жыл бұрын
It's been a while since I looked at this but IIRC just go the the throttle tab and set the throttle to Max instead of "By Display's Command" then it should be as you want. Just be careful to take note of ALL settings before making a change as it is really easy to get lost.
@Nicholas_Shaw.
@Nicholas_Shaw. 3 жыл бұрын
Really helpful thanks just subscribed. Wanting to completely turn off pedal assist and just use throttle (for off road) is this possible??? Please help..
@alibro7512
@alibro7512 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your kind words. Sure you can have throttle only, that is how mine is set. I just select assist level 0 which gives no pedal assistance and my throttle still works.
@Nicholas_Shaw.
@Nicholas_Shaw. 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, still not sure if you mean this can be done from just the controller or the Luna computer? Thanks again..
@alibro7512
@alibro7512 3 жыл бұрын
@@Nicholas_Shaw. you need to reconfigure the controller to enable this. Normally the throttle is disabled in level 0
@Nicholas_Shaw.
@Nicholas_Shaw. 3 жыл бұрын
Sir, you are a star.
@rivmack5902
@rivmack5902 Жыл бұрын
Hi, Thanks for the vid. I've downloaded the LunaCycle tool and hooked up the cable to the control cable, I hit connect and can't click Read Flash, just wondering what's going on, any suggestions.
@alibro7512
@alibro7512 Жыл бұрын
How old is your Bafang Mid Drive?
@rodmh3658
@rodmh3658 2 жыл бұрын
Hello, I've taken your advice with programming, I've changes everything with the exception of Low Battery Protection (originally set by the manufacturer at 20) and, Current Limit [A]: 18 vs 30. After making changes one Tab at a time, I would hit "Write". Then disconnected. Once I reconnected I received the Communication error 30. HELP!!! I'd appreciate your help.
@alibro7512
@alibro7512 2 жыл бұрын
I don't recognise the error but it could be anything including the PC getting confused about the com port. Reboot the pc and the controller and again.
@jazmondo888
@jazmondo888 3 жыл бұрын
Hi down in Larne here and have 2 250w Bafang bikes and I am really happy with the default setting and I am now hitting well over 2,000 miles .Is this reset really helpful on a day to day basis ? p.s. you sound like a norn iron man .
@alibro7512
@alibro7512 3 жыл бұрын
There are a few reasons to make the changes. When riding with others they change speed all the time so your going up and down the speed settings to stay at their speed. If riding at slow speed and wanting to accelerate quickly to match traffic speed you have to quickly go up the speed settings. If riding off road it's hard to calibrate your speed for all terrain. With a 250W motor these things will be less of an issue but being able to use the throttle in any setting is really helpful.
@jazmondo888
@jazmondo888 3 жыл бұрын
@@alibro7512 Thanks for the reply. Yea with 250w not much needed. With 7 speed and throttle that always works with default settings. Have now installed gear sensors as well. Have a 11 to 28 tooth rear setup. I go like the wind. Lol, at least for a pensioner....
@alibro7512
@alibro7512 3 жыл бұрын
@@jazmondo888 Does your throttle give full speed when you are in setting 1 or 2. As default my throttle only gave me the speed that was shown on the display.
@jazmondo888
@jazmondo888 3 жыл бұрын
@@alibro7512 Never really looked . I start of on setting 3 every time , never seen any point or merit in setting it lower. Only time I would drop a setting is to get the odd work out .Odd being the operative word . I only use the throttle when pulling away from junctions for safety reasons or for a few secs from standing start to easily mount the bike.
@chrisprice5806
@chrisprice5806 3 жыл бұрын
will this work with the front wheel hub motor from bafeng/8fun?
@alibro7512
@alibro7512 3 жыл бұрын
TBH I don't know. If it has a built in controller then maybe but if not then the controller would need to be made by Bafang or have similar firmware.
@prosperestols3629
@prosperestols3629 2 жыл бұрын
Great and detailed video, but something is not working for me. I have done everything you did. I can connect it, as soon as I press connect a blue light lights up on the cable but I cant press the "read" button. It stays grey :(. Therefor I cant do anything. what is the cause of this and how do I fix it? I just realised I have a mac motor, is there a program for that too?
@alibro7512
@alibro7512 2 жыл бұрын
I don't know anything about mac motors I'm afraid. Bafang will probably have different software and maybe also connection speed.
@prosperestols3629
@prosperestols3629 2 жыл бұрын
@@alibro7512 Yet I still think that it is the controller you are programming and not the motor directly so it shouldnt matter. I have seen more people with this problem, but haven't found a sensible fix.
@alibro7512
@alibro7512 2 жыл бұрын
​@@prosperestols3629 You could try the Speeed Android App kzbin.info/www/bejne/apWxhWZrqd6ZgJI to confirm if the issue is PC, cable or motor but I believe this software is for BBS01, BBS02 and BBSHD only. I'm not sure where Mac motors fit in to this list.
@_el.guapo_
@_el.guapo_ Жыл бұрын
Can you reprogram a BBSHD (the model from 2019-now: BBS03). Or is it only possible with the BBSHD first generation from 2016-2019?
@alibro7512
@alibro7512 Жыл бұрын
I believe this only works with the older generation but can't confirm this 100% as I haven't tested it myself.
@Thefakisgoinon
@Thefakisgoinon 11 ай бұрын
On my BBS01B in controller info it says that Max.Current is 20Amps. However, the current limit default was set to 15A (top left corner). I set it to 20A. Will this damage the controller?
@alibro7512
@alibro7512 11 ай бұрын
It should be OK so long as you don't abuse it. Follow the manufacturer instructions for riding in the correct gear.
@ash0787
@ash0787 Жыл бұрын
on my BBSHD I am using a 52v battery and when it gets below around 47 or 48v it seems to suddenly go into a power saving mode where the power output is limited to around 500w, it continues at that until the battery reaches its cut out which I think is 42v, this is an issue when I went to use a 48v second battery pack so I want to change that behaviour, do you know if its possible with this technique ? I have the programming cable but have not tried yet.
@alibro7512
@alibro7512 Жыл бұрын
Some controllers automatically adjust the lower threshold when the battery is connected. I'm not sure about the BBSHD but is worth a try.
@01evansa
@01evansa 3 жыл бұрын
I live in Germany where the maximum is 250w and 25kph. Is there a way to "de-tune" the motor.
@alibro7512
@alibro7512 3 жыл бұрын
You could set the current limit to 50% and the speed to 25kph for the maximum speed setting but if the police stopped you how would you prove you had done it? Is a throttle legal in Germany?
@01evansa
@01evansa 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for getting back to me. Throttles aren't legal, but I don't know the law behind having it but not using it. Like owning a super car. It is possible to drive 200mph, but you just don't. I just don't know where I stand on the law 😂😂😂😂
@WhatComesAroundTM
@WhatComesAroundTM 2 жыл бұрын
Good day, I live in the Netherlands. Yes, with this software you can program the motor to only use 250W and go a top speed of 25 kmph. You set the power limit using the current limit. And you can set a hard speed limit in the settings.
@danielleinad6019
@danielleinad6019 2 жыл бұрын
​@@WhatComesAroundTM I live in Austria an I have a bike with Bafang 500W (750W peak) motor. However, we are only allowed to have 250W continuous and 600W peak. How can I tame my bike in order to achieve 250W continuous and set a limit at 600W peak?
@stephendalli
@stephendalli 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, can all BBSHD motors be reprogrammed? I saw a bbshd kit for sale but the seller told me that it can't be reprogrammed because it's from the latest stock. I'm not talking about the new bbshd replacement, (the one with the huge smile battery), i'm talking about an actual bbshd kit. Thanks and great vids
@alibro7512
@alibro7512 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry I'm not sure about newer models. When I made the video they could be reprogrammed.
@jamiegrainger8190
@jamiegrainger8190 3 жыл бұрын
Hi. I have followed your video very carefully but when I press the ‘connect’ button nothing happens. I don’t then get an option to read or write. Could my controller be damaged? Please help as my motor no longer works and I was hoping that reprogramming would solve my issue
@alibro7512
@alibro7512 3 жыл бұрын
Did you see the USB serial port in Device Manager?
@jamiegrainger8190
@jamiegrainger8190 3 жыл бұрын
@@alibro7512 yes I downloaded the driver too exactly as the video showed
@alibro7512
@alibro7512 3 жыл бұрын
@@jamiegrainger8190 if you have it correctly connected and still not working then it sounds like your controller is faulty. Sorry
@MrLottolee1
@MrLottolee1 Жыл бұрын
I bought avaris 3.6 but when I took mine apart it's a 9 pin so struggling to change settings, any help appreciated
@alibro7512
@alibro7512 Жыл бұрын
Sorry, this software only works with older Bafang BBS hardware.
@paulreimann9358
@paulreimann9358 2 жыл бұрын
Do they make one for the himiway cruiser?
@alibro7512
@alibro7512 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry I don't know
@stevegreg2135
@stevegreg2135 3 жыл бұрын
Hi is this something I can use to reprogram a Pedego City commuter ebike any body?
@alibro7512
@alibro7512 3 жыл бұрын
No idea but it is cheap enough that you could give it a try.
@stevegreg2135
@stevegreg2135 3 жыл бұрын
I wish I found this KZbin video before i sold my Pedego City commuter
@joc1862
@joc1862 3 жыл бұрын
Best BBSHD programming explanation I've seen. Thank you. Only one thing I noticed that I'm not sure about - right at the very end, when you finished with throttle settings, you clicked 'write' but not 'write flash' to save your changes. Is 'write flash' not required to finalise settings to the controller?
@alibro7512
@alibro7512 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your kind words. You could be right about the 'Write' button so I'll have to check. It was quite a while ago I made the changes so I have probably got it wrong.
@joc1862
@joc1862 3 жыл бұрын
@@alibro7512 My interest in this is that, I too have mounted the BBSHD kit on a mountain bike. I have had a couple of issues with it though and have sent it back for warranty repairs a couple of times. In between, it's performed quite well but, like you mentioned in your video, the throttle is on default setting instead of full power. I'm getting the programming cable to hopefully change that, so your video will help. Thanks.
@waverley41
@waverley41 Жыл бұрын
FYI "write flash" will write the changes from all 3 tabs simultaneously. "write" is only for that individual tab.
@davel2734
@davel2734 2 жыл бұрын
Does the battery have to be connected to do this?
@alibro7512
@alibro7512 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, the inverter has to be powered by the battery.
@ytthecommunistplatform.2675
@ytthecommunistplatform.2675 3 жыл бұрын
First you should save your default settings in a file then alter your program so if you stuff it up and forget what the original settings were you can just reload your original default settings . Ive just got a 3000w controller for my bbshd and it should do upto 90kph but i probly wont go that fast on it . I have a hub drive aswel with a 1500w motor and 2000w controller that does 60kph and thats fast enough .
@wulfsteppen6989
@wulfsteppen6989 Жыл бұрын
@patriotSapper = GOOD idea to FIRSTLY SAVE the Default Settings ! WOOW , HOW do you connect a 3kW. controller on your 1kW. BBSHD ...? = WHAT (External?) Components ? = What BATTERY to Bear this Power ? = What impact on Motor Durability ? THANKS for Your Reply ! (And FIRST , THANKS @Ali.bro for this CLEAR Video !)
@toddschaeffer6174
@toddschaeffer6174 2 жыл бұрын
So I'm guessing this also works with the hub motor?
@alibro7512
@alibro7512 2 жыл бұрын
The link cable is connecting to the inverter (controller) in the kit not the motor. If your hub motor has a built in inverter then maybe but otherwise no.
@user-lp6bo4vv4z
@user-lp6bo4vv4z 9 ай бұрын
hello, would you be able to tell me how to program a controller bac500 hub motor rear Ne 500 TTL 232 RS 485
@alibro7512
@alibro7512 9 ай бұрын
Sorry no
@EuBaGiL
@EuBaGiL 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, to read/write data battery must turn on?
@alibro7512
@alibro7512 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, the controller needs to be powered on.
@EuBaGiL
@EuBaGiL 3 жыл бұрын
@@alibro7512 thanks, it works
@Cla682
@Cla682 9 ай бұрын
Does this work with a Mac or just with Windows Laptop?
@alibro7512
@alibro7512 9 ай бұрын
I don't know much about Mac's. Can they run Windows software? If so then maybe.
@paddyonabike3029
@paddyonabike3029 2 жыл бұрын
I've encountered a problem, I get as far as the download but when I open the file that shows bafang programmer file, It says old file and that's as far as I get. any solution
@alibro7512
@alibro7512 2 жыл бұрын
It's been a while since I looked at this but I believe after you download and extract the folder you need to rename the file to .exe instead of .old for it to work. Alternatively if you have an Android phone try the Speeed App with a OTG adapter.
@DemiGod..
@DemiGod.. 2 ай бұрын
Getting a motor fitted at the moment. Your setup is odd. Is that for ofroad? On the road I would maintain my ideal cadence and just want to vary the assistance power with PAS level to adjust the effort I exert. Can't imagine wanting to lower my cadence depending on PAS level.
@alibro7512
@alibro7512 2 ай бұрын
This is my off road bike so my settings are probably not ideal for on road. The default is to vary both cadence and assistance power when you change PAS level. The purpose of the video was to show this can be changed to whatever you want. 😉
@danielleinad6019
@danielleinad6019 2 жыл бұрын
I live in Austria an I have a bike with Bafang 500W (750W peak) motor. The controller seems to have 30A (limited to 20A via software). The battery has 48V. However, in Austria we are only allowed to have 250W continuous and 600W peak. How can I tame my bike in order to achieve 250W continuous and set a limit at 600W peak?
@alibro7512
@alibro7512 2 жыл бұрын
If you limit the current on the higher assist levels you will achieve lower power but how would the police test it? I believe you can buy 250W stickers off eBay.
@danielleinad6019
@danielleinad6019 2 жыл бұрын
@@alibro7512 Nah, the police isn't stupid. They certainly don't believe a sticker. I would like to effectively lower the power, because in case of an accident they will most likely put the bike to the test. And that could cost me an arm and a leg, plus a little bit more, if the bike is way beyond the legal specs. I bought my bike secondhand at a very reasonable price. If I had bought it new, I would have chosen the EPAC 250W version.
@alibro7512
@alibro7512 2 жыл бұрын
@@danielleinad6019 Best to adjust the current then so it cannot go over 600W. Not sure how to set it so the continuous current give 250W and peak 600W. I guess you will need to experiment.
@danielleinad6019
@danielleinad6019 2 жыл бұрын
@@alibro7512 What's the more elegant way to achieve a limitation of the maximum power? Currently, my controller is set to 20A (48V battery). My motor is a bafang 500W (750W peak). I want to achieve 600W peak. Should I set the absolute Ampere value down to 13 (13x48=624W) or limit the current on the higher assist levels to about 60%? I guess both methods have the same outcome.
@alibro7512
@alibro7512 2 жыл бұрын
@@danielleinad6019 I have a 500W 36V motor and need to make some changes to the settings so I'll try a few things and get back.
@sretlawgerg
@sretlawgerg 3 жыл бұрын
Will this fix bbshd error 10? Thanks
@alibro7512
@alibro7512 3 жыл бұрын
Sorry no idea. Have you checked what the error means?
@sretlawgerg
@sretlawgerg 3 жыл бұрын
@@alibro7512 controller over temperature, but it’s a new controller
@JpBillardreviews
@JpBillardreviews 3 жыл бұрын
Could you use your phone to do this?
@alibro7512
@alibro7512 3 жыл бұрын
Sorry mate I don't think so.
@Rodo182
@Rodo182 2 жыл бұрын
Hey everybody! When I connect the wire there is a blue light blinking. Also I can't change any settings, the read and write buttons are in grey and I can't click on them. Someone knows why is that ?? Also I'm getting Error 30 ... but that was before using this software
@alibro7512
@alibro7512 2 жыл бұрын
Do you have the battery connected and turned on?
@Rodo182
@Rodo182 2 жыл бұрын
@@alibro7512 Yes :(
@alibro7512
@alibro7512 2 жыл бұрын
@@Rodo182 have you seen my other video on this topic kzbin.info/www/bejne/apWxhWZrqd6ZgJI The problem may be your Laptop so if you try it with an Android phone it would confirm where the issue is. Also it's easier using a phone. 😉
@mrcangryforyou
@mrcangryforyou 2 жыл бұрын
I keep losing connection after i click "Read Flash". Tabs get greyed out. 🤦‍♂️what could possibly cause that? Please help. Thanks.
@alibro7512
@alibro7512 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry I don't know, maybe a dodgy connection or a faulty cable. What model of mid drive are you using?
@mrcangryforyou
@mrcangryforyou 2 жыл бұрын
@@alibro7512 Bafang ultra G510
@alibro7512
@alibro7512 2 жыл бұрын
@@mrcangryforyou I think this only works for BBS01, BBS02 and BBSHD. And even then I don't think it works with the latest version of BBSHD. You'll need to search for software suitable for your model.
@mygoalcrash8077
@mygoalcrash8077 2 жыл бұрын
Unplug battery? or plug in?
@alibro7512
@alibro7512 2 жыл бұрын
Good question. If I remember right I tried this with the battery unplugged and it didn't work so you need to plug in the battery. The controller gets it's power from the battery and it is the controller you are making changes to so this makes sense.
@mygoalcrash8077
@mygoalcrash8077 2 жыл бұрын
@@alibro7512 yes! good video! you make my day ,thanks
@akaliforever7737
@akaliforever7737 2 жыл бұрын
Hey does it works for 1726 fiacher E bikes ?? Answer pls
@alibro7512
@alibro7512 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not familiar with them but if they have bbs01/2 or older HD mid drive units then probably.
@akaliforever7737
@akaliforever7737 2 жыл бұрын
@@alibro7512 mine is hub motor bafang . Is that any way to do it ? Help pls
@alibro7512
@alibro7512 2 жыл бұрын
@@akaliforever7737 I don't think so
@Desilv
@Desilv 2 жыл бұрын
What about the m240? Can’t find it
@alibro7512
@alibro7512 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry, not sure what you're asking.
@Desilv
@Desilv 2 жыл бұрын
@@alibro7512 I got the m240 Bafang with dc18p display but the speed limit is locked can’t choose it to switch.. is there any bypass ?
@alibro7512
@alibro7512 2 жыл бұрын
@@Desilv I'm not sure the software works on anything other than bbs01, 02 and HD. Check out the android app as the guy responsible is still developing it.
@gundam42d64
@gundam42d64 Ай бұрын
My andriod pixil 6 wont let me download the speeed app its too new and my labtops wont let me download the bafang zip apps as the app store is "protecting me" Reprograming this Bafang 1000w motor been a nightmare. not getting anywhere.
@alibro7512
@alibro7512 Ай бұрын
How old is your Bafang? Anything built in the last two or three years will not work anyway. If it is old enough maybe buy a used phone off ebay.
@gundam42d64
@gundam42d64 Ай бұрын
@@alibro7512 Just downloaded Luna cycle programing program on laptop. It talked to the bike I changed current limit to 75-80 and it's speed limit 72-80 and it didn't increase the speed.
@gundam42d64
@gundam42d64 Ай бұрын
@@alibro7512 it's a BBS3
@alibro7512
@alibro7512 Ай бұрын
@@gundam42d64 I think some have a max speed so maybe you can't change that. Just be very careful to document any changes you make so you can get back to a working setup if something goes wrong.
@gundam42d64
@gundam42d64 Ай бұрын
@@alibro7512 Yeah I did. It's kind of a kick in the balls to hear may not be able to hack into but hey it reachs 28mph effortlessly and will go 32mph with mad peddling plus throttle and has gone 35mph with perfect road conditions. At least it doesn't have the U.K stupid 16mph restrictions for a 1000W motor which is a waste.
@kenchow6741
@kenchow6741 2 жыл бұрын
I purchased a bafang, bbs03 HD motor December 2021, The newest motor cannot be reprogrammed
@gundam42d64
@gundam42d64 Ай бұрын
I'm finding that out now too it seems. So what do I actually get to make my bike go 40mph?
@TonyWhite22351
@TonyWhite22351 2 жыл бұрын
It would have been a good idea to have all your information written down in advance to eliminate the uncertainty displayed in your presentation but otherwise an excellent video , thanks for posting !
@user-el9nn5rf2d
@user-el9nn5rf2d Жыл бұрын
I spoke with a BAFANG factory rep about this and asked if this would VOID THE WARRANTY. He said "YES IT WILL". What did they say to you, Bro?
@alibro7512
@alibro7512 Жыл бұрын
I didn't ask but as it doesn't work on any unit less than 2 or 3 years old it's not really very important. Good point tho
@user-el9nn5rf2d
@user-el9nn5rf2d Жыл бұрын
@@alibro7512 I wouldn't mess with that during the warranty period though I can appreciate how people don't like the way the power band is set up in the factory. Why didn't they make the power output proportional to the amount of throttle twist like you'd see with a motorcycle? Seems like a no-brainer to me. Cheers!
@naca139
@naca139 3 жыл бұрын
Katsu Curry Chicken McNuggets!
@MarekZpe3n
@MarekZpe3n 8 күн бұрын
Does this still work in 2024?
@alibro7512
@alibro7512 7 күн бұрын
Only if your Bafang is the older model made before 2021 or 22. If so then yes it will work in 2024 or 2025 or 2026. 😉
@MarekZpe3n
@MarekZpe3n 7 күн бұрын
@@alibro7512 so theres a no chance to flash motor firmware made after 2022?
@alibro7512
@alibro7512 7 күн бұрын
@@MarekZpe3n As far as I know it won't work but I could be wrong. The cable is cheap and the software is free so try it and report back.
@MarekZpe3n
@MarekZpe3n 7 күн бұрын
@@alibro7512 Okey. I have last question, i find that you can play with those “unlocked” features, if you use eggrider display. Is that correct? Even with newer made motors? Thank you for your answer.
@alibro7512
@alibro7512 7 күн бұрын
@@MarekZpe3n Sorry, it's been a long time since I looked at this so I don't know.
@smithy2402
@smithy2402 Жыл бұрын
Yeah It's Mike Nesbitt Innit !!! LOL ...Ulster Unionist And Former UTV News Presenter...
@alibro7512
@alibro7512 Жыл бұрын
Twin brother. 😋
@smithy2402
@smithy2402 Жыл бұрын
@@alibro7512 ...And I Believe Ye LOL
@magzire
@magzire 3 жыл бұрын
strange i dont get any resistance when cycling with no power, feels actually normal
@alibro7512
@alibro7512 3 жыл бұрын
I can't remember if I mentioned it in the video but I agree. There is very little extra resistance with this kit if the power is turned off.
@silver750iL
@silver750iL 3 жыл бұрын
@@alibro7512 Hmm with my BBSO2B it feels like quite a lot of resistance to me
@morganmcgarthur9621
@morganmcgarthur9621 3 жыл бұрын
I bought a second hand bike with this tweaking done to it, and the changes killed the motor very quickly. If the mods are not sanctioned by the manufacturer, don't do it. If the designer wanted these changes, they would send out upgrades...which they DON'T.
@alibro7512
@alibro7512 3 жыл бұрын
How can you be sure it was the changes that killed the motor? How old was it? How many miles had it done? Did the previous owner use it properly? Did you? The changes I made will do no harm at all if the bike is ridden properly and by that I mean using the correct gear for the speed or gradient being ridden. This was mentioned in the instructions that came with my kit and any deviation would result in non warranty so it is clearly important.
@DFX2KX
@DFX2KX 3 жыл бұрын
some of these settings are for things like wheel size, which affects the speedometer/speed limit if enabled. many of these can be reconfigured on the bike with some of the nicer screens. If they didn't want people messing with it, they would have used cheap glue logic and not a proper serial interface. You certainly *can* kill a motor (likely just the controller) screwing around, but as long as you use a bit of sense you won't cook it.
@bourquinnahtechnikag9496
@bourquinnahtechnikag9496 2 жыл бұрын
incomplete declaration ...
@alibro7512
@alibro7512 2 жыл бұрын
Nothing to declare. I have no connection with Lunacycle and not selling anything nor is the video sponsored.
@johnbyrne6020
@johnbyrne6020 2 жыл бұрын
does he really know what he is doing
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