NEWER 90 + GAS FURNACE NO HEAT CALL

[@andrewr3924]

I work for the gas company Steve, the only time you need an inspector is if we shut the meter off and lock it which is considered a class A, B is an appliance shut off at the secondary and a C is something like delayed ignition not urgent. So if they just shut off the furnace and red tagged it and didn’t have a leak at the secondary shut off or before it on the pipe or we put a dial test on the meter and it wasn’t holding, that’s a different story. But once you guys fix it on a class B, appliance shut off from secondary, then turn it on, you’re good, and if we go back there and it’s still leaking and some “plumber” fixed it, and the problem still exists then I’m shutting the meter off and locking it and requiring that inspection. And on a side note, appreciate this channel it’s helped me out a lot on diagnosing issues and keeping people’s heat on in the dead of winter when you guys aren’t available on a Sunday at midnight.

[@w.miller7282]

I work for a gas company as well, I’m just curious what state are you in?

[@natgasf7236]

@@andrewr3924 I’m retired from gas co for over ten yrs now. Worked in Southboro for 36 yrs.

[@tmst2199]

I don't get why Steve is saying "You have to" do this or that when they obviously don't "have" to do a damned thing.

[@tomreid5658]

Dude get a licensed contractor and no worries. Everyone wants to short the system.

[@w.miller7282]

@ exactly, just fix the furnace and turn it back on. I work for a gas company, and when I red tag an appliance, there is no follow up, it is the responsibility of the homeowner to have a qualified company to repair.

[@billyboozer8806]

Steven I like the way you talk to yourself during a repair to convince yourself you have decided what you think is the part that is causing the furnace not to work and you are on the"RightTrack" to make the repair, and solve the problem. Thanks steven I enjoy going with you on a repair call.

[@steverone7623]

Steve is the man, the others just want to charge the customers for new equipment whereas Steve has the ability to troubleshoot and fix the issue

[@john7017]

If you ever get stuck on a weekend call and the motor is tight, you can drill an 1/8" hole on the sheet metal bearing caps, each end and lube the bearing with your spout oiler and free it up until you get a new motor. Saves someone with no heat in an emergency.

[@jackjackjack000]

any specific kinda oil to use for something like this?

[@FrenchBeefCDN]

Wrong oil is better than no oil. Anything that won’t evaporate (no WD-40).

[@billarenz2719]

Turbine or 3n1 oil works.

[@srtdetonator5272]

Still happy with my 1977 Westinghouse. Original motor that was rebuilt once by a automotive starter and alternator shop back in 1999. 3 story brick home and is never turned above 65. Only thing I change is the filter twice a season and the belt maybe every 5 years, oil the fan every year, and inspect the chimney every year.

[@williamreitinger8978]

A fan motor shot only after 4 years? They should last 10 to 20. Real quality product there.

[@SkilledLabor]

Sure ductwork and static have a lot to do with it

[@johnkosick1464]

It was probably never oiled !

[@cranstonwilliamsworth9644]

Filter looked dirty, seen it where the dust got into the bearings and killed the motor

[@EdgarGonzalez-rw6gq]

@@SkilledLabor you are right - static pressure is what kills the motor. A lots of heating contractors when installing a new furnace never check for static pressure . This will create pre-mature heat, exchangers, failures, and blower motor failures. Also 3M filters are the worts filters in the market. Furnaces are designed to be run at .5 inch’s of water column and those filter are so heavy on that pleat that I seen furnaces running at 1.6 and higher with those filter

[@SkilledLabor]

@@EdgarGonzalez-rw6gq See it all the time. We always upgrade to an Aprilaire 1410 or 1210 air cleaner, return drop. And after install if static is an issue, recommend further ductwork or at least a return in the basement to get it lower. Also a lot of high statics come from small evaporator coils with new wider furnaces say c and d cabinet (21”-24”). First thing I look for if the evaporator is 15.5” and putting in 21” furnace with 3/4” horse motor, I already know the outcome 😂

[@steveblake8766]

Another job well done

[@Tom-sg4iv]

Nothing but quality

[@timothyfink9354]

another fine job done. thanks for sharing.

[@JakePorterHVAC]

Thanks for the video. Stay safe and warm out there.

[@DavidMackey-w4c]

Nice job Steve…had the motor needed in your warehouse on wheels…

[@chuckyc6912]

Steve and miss mollie are hard at it again. Great video

[@davidparker9676]

Molly is at home staying warm.

[@sknight0391]

You're a good man Steve. 😎👍

[@keepmoving7765]

So are you bud. I talked to you a few years ago about my 1990 Lennox HS-18 311 condensing unit and condemning those units. Still going strong and haven’t done anything to it other than hose it off every spring and clean the leaves out. Simply amazing imo.

[@sknight0391]

@keepmoving7765 thank you 🙏 😎👍

[@jonathanmessore1907]

when this cold weather breaks, it looks like the truck could use a once over...enjoy the weekend...

[@notbad1235]

Steve, there was no warranty left on a 4 or 5 year old unit?

[@natgasf7236]

Customer calls gas co and they will come out to check repairs were made and remove red tag. No need for customer to incur more charges.

[@mpalaskokkalis1476]

Perfect 👌 service gas

[@BULLDOGG]

As an employee. To cover my but. When I go to a problem call and I suspect it's the flame sensor. I take micro amp reading before and after cleaning.

[@frankconte5545]

great job as usual Steve!! hey, any benefit to a drop or two of some blue loctite on that fan/motor collar lock screw? I'm an auto tech, and we use the blue/red stuff quite often on fasteners that can loosen up over time.

[@richardreynolds9885]

You the man Steve

[@lancelawrence3259]

Nice work

[@gordonv.cormack3216]

I wonder why they switched from spark to hot surface ignitors in 90+ furnaces. Probably cheaper. But the spark ignitors work for decades without maintenance.

[@davidparker9676]

More service parts sold, more opportunities to sell a new unit. Nothing is made to last or be reliable anymore. You are lucky if you get more than 10 years out of a new 90+ unit. The old 80% units from the 70s 80s and 90s go for decades without a service call where I live.

[@gordonv.cormack3216]

@@davidparker9676 I have a 91% that is 31 years old, and working perfectly.

[@iamnoone.]

Howdy Steve and Miss Molly

[@mwolrich]

she ain’t no prom queen 😂

[@jenko701]

Cut the tag out put it in the trash and fix the heat .

[@Meodus_Humbinerbernecki]

I would never get gas, I am sure oil can explode / leak CO too but the last few years, people don't seem to care about doing any work at all and also people are not servicing boilers. I just wouldn't use gas i would rather sit in the cold.

[@frankrizzo3915]

Hello Steve!

[@chuckq54]

How many gas meters are in that basement? 🧐

[@ClickinChicken]

It's Rocket science to us Steve! Thanks for the shots!

[@zippythechicken]

pretty much betting steve isn't bringing a picnic lunch and camping out in their basement... hehehe

[@samiam9365]

Squirrel cage is filthy. Are the owners not changing the filter or using the wrong filter? Ive been in homes where the owners have 2-3 dogs. Lots of dog hair stuck in the filter.

[@maxpower2511]

Looks pretty new plus it is a Ruud/Rheem.

[@robertblacksmith4355]

They don't make those motors like they use too,mom's lasted 44yrs made in Canada ! New one made in Mexico!

[@badandyg]

Isn't this a warranty job momma? Can you really swap a 3 speed in the place of a 4 speed ?

[@rodneyskinner7741]

Hello Steve

[@edwardr108]

Steve, how come you don't use a socket wrench, would'nt it be faster? I love your video's, you're the best!!

[@davidnorton5887]

He charges time and material.

[@jeffscomp]

they should put ecm motors in all new furnaces. not that those can't go bad.

[@alk7142]

She's a tight one mama.

[@RussellMinor-v2h]

I. Thought when you get red tagged gas was shut off and meter locked

[@natgasf7236]

@@RussellMinor-v2h not if the problem can be isolated

[@joelmcneney5366]

Cattywampus Mama

[@damionfragoso2655]

Post pandemic maintenance

[@pego99]

What is meant by a 90 + gas furnace?

[@Adventures-with-Phil]

It's the efficiency rating of the furnace, meaning 90%+ of the gas being burned is transferred to heat your home. The higher the efficiency rating the less heat is lost though exhaust and more water(condensation) is created.

[@pego99]

Thank you ​@@Adventures-with-Phil

[@tomreid5658]

Steve has a license and has to play by the rules. Tell them about permits more steve

[@MrTwinklypig]

That motor had to be making nosie way before it froze.

[@scurfie2343]

That filter looked suspect.

[@zippythechicken]

pretty bad they put that tag on there and never followed up.. it happens i guess.. stay warm

[@natgasf7236]

@@zippythechicken they are supposed to but rarely happens. Red tag basically covers the gas company’s butt.

[@zippythechicken]

@@natgasf7236 not sure a contractor putting a red tag on a customer's unit is covering anyone's ass.. especially if he isn't following up on it and having it inspected to remove the tag... the contractor might be liable if they never called it in and there was a problem within the 2 years it was on there.. can't expect customers to understand anything and they obviously didn't.. but idk it wasn't like the gas meter was locked out and tagged so its all a bunch of foolishness i guess. you got to complete these things or if the house burns down because they were frying bacon the insurance company says.. why didn't you get the inspection.. and they don't cover the policy.

[@natgasf7236]

@ not a contractor it was the Gas Co. In Mass they have the red tags only. In fact an inspector will call gas co for a red tag shut off. But having said that whoever did the repair if qualified could have had it rechecked and removed.

[@christianurbano1483]

The new rhem is a mess, first you have to paired when you download the app, in order to see system operation, board goes bad, ecm motor also goes bad, is a headache.

[@FloydAlbright]

She's bound up moma.

[@joshb124]

They don't make fan motors like they use to..

[@tonym6920]

Hey Steve and Miss Molly! Workin’ again ya’ll. 👍👍

[@demetriosa7646]

Same shit with me Steve. I have the same furnace but a rheem with an ECM motor. Shit the bed only 4 yrs old. Motor under warranty for 699$. $250 for labor. It’s bullshit they make these things so cheap to make money. My Bryant 80% 20 years never a motor. Only a bad board at 15 yrs in.

[@justinh7957]

You paid 699 for the motor?

[@demetriosa7646]

@ I would have. I still have a 10yr warranty on parts. I paid $250 for labor !

[@justinh7957]

@demetriosa7646 that's what I was hoping you meant lol but you will never get 20 years out of any new equipment no matter the brand. Bryant is crap nowadays. Everything has a ecm motor now.

[@zippythechicken]

Update on the Neighbor... so he had 3 trips from the previous chain store hvac place.. last was a guy in a car.. guess they were giving an estimate for replacement... now update .. this morning sunday .. he had another chain store hvac place out for half an hour.. guy brings no tools just a laptop bag.. Obviously getting an estimate.. then 2 hours later another small contractor (maybe husband/wife) shows up walks inside the house with a clipboard for an hour then unloads his pickup into the neighbor's garage... I am betting they come back in an hour with a gas furnace and replace it... so hopefully he gets some heat. BUT i am betting he called the 2nd and 3rd contractors and said hey i need a furnace can you give me an estimate... instead of .. my furnace isn't working can you come try to fix it... oh they ran out to his house as fast as they could heh. ... 5 adults in the house over 30... not my place to go knocking to figure out how I can be blamed for giving them advise.. I just wish them well.. I am betting they have a new heater by 7pm though. probably the heat exchanger and I think they have a old carrier so not replaceable .. taaaaaaaaah you know .. i will hope the best for them. its not like I am overly watching them.. they are parking in front of my place and going to his because he has cars in front of his house.. so i notice.

[@ClickinChicken]

How low can you run a propane tank until it starts spitting air? They only fill it to 80 and want a leak test at empty. Sounds like a suck sandwich for this Custama (New England accent).

[@moocowdad]

who would take the tag off if the repair guy is dead in canada an inspector can do it

[@BillR-e2g]

Something seems off here. Oh yeah, a 90% furnace not using an ECM motor. Very interesting.

[@MrJujubean]

My 90% used a psc motor. That's not unusual

[@alexbarger9808]

Said furnace was 4-5 years old. Manufactured before they mandated ecm motors around 2018-2019 I believe

[@BillR-e2g]

@ It's a keeper than.

[@tomdale1313]

"Ya it's a shit show", but it's your shit show', thxs for sharing...

[@overwatch2671]

Another pile of ruud steve

[@scottharbaugh431]

That filter will kill the motor in that furnace to thick

[@John-ye9sp]

Its a bad motor moma

[@janebottomley6852]

Why not run it up first to fault find, before cleaning the sensor, costing the customer money?

[@japmlp09]

A good tech would have cleaned the sensor reguardless..