Stock Block vs. Stock Engine vs. Stock Sleeves Explained

[@hmongamericanlife3445]

For those of you who are still confused. Rewind and watch it again.

[@leroythomasjr2201]

Lmao........

[@Tec-fv2xb]

Take a shot every time he says “stock”

[@miltongimenez45]

Wade 1 great I'm drunk now 🍸🍹 time to start internally modifying my stock block .to call it a stock block at my local street races 😂

[@dreyegon]

HAHA I was just about to add that comment, but I was going to say, "Take a shot for every time you hear "block"

[@jcoopers06]

What humble performance says is not what the majority of the race scene says. When you say stock block, they mean stock bottom end, especially in the Honda community. When they say built, it means rods/pistons, and when they say sleeved, well you get the picture. On all the Honda forums (the few that are still around) when you look at records for stock block cars, they always give the description 100% stock bottom end, the way it cam from the factory.

[@jv07tundra381]

jcoopers06 I been out of the racing scene for too long now but yes, i agree with you about the street racing scene’s definition of a stock block. On the other hand, being technical HP is correct by the standard definition of a stock block or BARE block. If you were to go order a stock block from the dealership, chances are you will be getting a BARE block and not a short block unless the short block is the only way it comes. Lol, some how I’m ok with both sides of the story due to the fact about the street racing scene’s definition. I can also see HP kicking off a trend here and soon everyone will be in agreed with them.

[@smokeyyang7600]

Humble performance #fakenews

[@_Zoctane]

That’s what I thought to including bearings

[@Mr94civicEX]

Stock block means stock bottom end with stock rods and pistons. If they have rods and pistons it should be mentioned that it’s a stock sleeve block. If it’s a stock sleeve block with css it’s now a css block, same if it’s sleeved with golden eagle sleeves. That block now is a golden eagle sleeve block.

[@Dfwrich]

Cou Yang agreed

[@Mr94civicEX]

bobby hill on the last video was mention this car is a stock block gsr. What should of been said was this is a stock sleeve gsr. If that was mentioned everyone will know the block has rods and pistons.

[@humbleperformance]

5:14

[@humbleperformance]

Cou Yang 2:36

[@Mr94civicEX]

Humble Performance my comment wasn’t towards this video. It was towards the video of the white hatch. I don’t think people are confused, they are only confused on how you word stock block.

[@hiquality_distraction4084]

AWD block, got it.

[@pFbSpecV]

This is how I consider it.... Stock motor, stock rods and pistons and sleeves. Built motor, piston, rods, with stock sleeves Sleeved built motor, piston, rods, sleeved motor!

[@AutoBodyEverything]

..... how many blocks could a block guard guard if a block guard could guard blocks?

[@john-martin]

back in 2004 a fully built engine was a piston/rod motor with an intake lol

[@larryher1]

Interesting! Below is the guideline that I’ve used and learned, even till today (16years+). Never got it confused and always works. I guess it depends where you’re from. But that’s what we called it, from my area with all respect. Usually refer as: 1) Stock Block or Bone Stock Block = OEM Pistons/Rods 2) Built Block or BB w/Stock Sleeves = Aftermarket Pistons/Rods and including CSS if it has it. 3) Fully Built Block = Sleeves, Pistons/Rods or even with a bigger Crank aka (Stroker Kit) We (West Coast) keep it simple, vice versa goes with the head. But it’s common sense when you talk to someone, you should be able to catch what they’re saying. Good info!! Thanks Humble Performance🙏 #westcoast 🌊 #whereitallstarted 🙌 #californialove📍 #therealones☝️

[@jockobo]

The only people who talk like this are the ones trying to make their car sound more impressive than it is lol

[@humbleperformance]

To help some confusion that is still occurring. How Stock unmodified engines are commonly referred as: “Stock engine” “Stock longblock” “Bone stock” How engines with stock internals and stock blocks are commonly referred as: “Stock block with stock internals” “Stock shortblock” “Stock internals” “Stock bottom end” How an engine with modified internals are commonly referred as: “Stock block” “Factory block” “Stock sleeves” “Rod/Piston” Many people DO use the term “Stock block” to mean Stock bottom end, but it is typically always followed with “stock internals” or is clarified in some way to reinforce the fact the bottom end is entirely original. This is the guide to how engines will be referred on this channel. We’re not here to mislead anyone or chase any arbitrary record like the “fastest stock rod with modified piston in a blue EF in the Right lane on a Tuesday” Hope this clears confusion, thanks!

[@jaspermalan3640]

I am building a H22a all motor build, my head has been gasflow ported and each intake valve size has been increased by 1mm, they designed and made my valves swirly valves for my head, my cams have been cut at 270 degrees, my block has been resleeve at I have JE forged pistons and eagle rods in it, the ratio is 11.7:1, so proud of my build so far

[@MrSiDeWaYs240]

We need a count on how many times you said "BLOCK" & "STOCK" ..LMAO

[@sergioup5902]

Dustin Navarre 8 this videos is useless. I already know what he is trying to explain but he just did a fuckery of a video. Maybe setting up the blocks better to show and tell. Also slow the fuck down, can't understand shit. All i hear is long blocks with long blocks and stock blocks with glocks and cocks.

[@Justin_anthony]

@@sergioup5902 omg I'm dying

[@AutoBodyEverything]

D` Tuned ..... how many blocks could a block guard guard if a block guard could guard blocks?

[@payton5313]

How much power could my stock b20 sleeves take ?

[@RACEALOTGARAGE]

100% agree. But there is alot of videos out there saying stock block as in complete stock bottom end/short block. So now id like to know, are all those stock block h2b actually not stock bottom end? We may never know lol.

[@n0ti5]

First thing is many people call the short block assembly just plain ol' block or bottom end or rotating assembly. Second, not all blocks have sleeves or are open deck so if this type of work can't be done to them are they still considered "stock block"?

[@shannonmuldrow3118]

Can you please do a video explaining Sleeved blocks more in depth dry sleeves vs wet sleeves Pros and cons and if cooling would be affected or not?

[@Paper.Power.Politics]

Yes!! There is not one video explaining what you mentioned lol l.

[@mattgixxer776]

I'm really glad you cleared that up. Shit was getting confusing there for a bit.

[@westy3223]

This is a great video. Thank you for the simple breakdown. -Westy

[@yoyyoy4789]

dry sleeves increasing temperature how much rather than wet sleeve

[@toki89666]

Take a shot every time he says a word ending in -ock.

[@cdun6969]

If I was explaining it, I’d say it’s a built block with rods and pistons. If everything is stock, it’s a completely stock block. If it’s sleeved I say it’s a built block. With bolt ons I just say it’s a bolt on car.

[@popiwatv]

Dun Built It it's not built if it's sleeves only.

[@DFDF-uq3im]

Im also being high but still dont know what is a lomgblock

[@AutoBodyEverything]

How much boost or horsepower can a stock block handle? Something like a B 20 B or a QR25DE before gasket failure or cylinder damage? (everything else is forged internals).

[@dah8rsluvme]

Honestly, whom ever that don't understand should just get out of the car/race scene. It's 2018 and people are still talking like the early 90s 😧

[@hmongamericanlife3445]

dah8rsluvme you can't really say that because there's still beginners that don't know so this is good and informative for those who don't get it.

[@dah8rsluvme]

Hmong American Life I'm sure this video was made because of the idiots arguing that full bolt-ons isn't considered a stock engine. I'm no guru but at least I'm not one of those idiots.

[@RagingBullNuts]

The 90s guys knew what they were doing, I would say the early 2000s guys lol

[@justa5oh136]

There’s more among you that don’t belong in the car world...most are in this illusional car Scene aka buy a cool car and never modify the thing... and there’s gear heads who bang there knuckles building stuff and spend every weeks knocking down tenths of there et

[@notone4029]

Eddie Castaner, yes they did cause I’m one of them. Honda O.G.

[@axelreyes2935]

Great video. Subbed!! Do a video on what a “built engine” and “built motor” entails

[@MaCiEl720]

If you have a rod piston combo with a slight bore is it still a stock block?? Or is it not a stock block since its been bored out??

[@martyfps2307]

How many stocks is stock

[@weliftnation2418]

If a block that dosnt come with stock sleevs there just bare aluminum block and you add sleeves it's not no longer stock block. You didn't say anything about that situation?

[@MrOscarLong]

Can you repeat that?

[@miltongimenez45]

What's better a ported head with stock internals or stock ports with modified internals?

[@markcozzie]

@damianraver Guess you didn't understand what he was saying?,he basically saying to mod either the block OR the head.👍

[@livingtruth7090]

Great job bro keep them coming

[@dalelangevin4571]

literally no one says "stock block" referring to piston/rod motor. "stock block" is OEM below the head gasket. is your block casting stock? sure. sleeves stock? sure. the rest of the block? na. therefore its a piston rod motor. seriously. no one but you is going around saying theyre making xxx hp on a stock block when they have a piston/rod combo.

[@n0ti5]

I was wondering that also. And where do closed deck blocks or non sleeve blocks come into play with this terminology?

[@4door_papi]

You around the wrong people lmfao

[@drewrich1048]

@@n0ti5 closed deck blocks usually come from the factory that way. Like the h22a for instance is a closed deck motor, but something such as a b18c that's a open deck motor

[@n0ti5]

@Drew Rich, i know, but where will a closed deck like the h22a or a cast iron block like a 3sgte come into play where they aren't sleeved? I'm just saying i don't agree with the terminology. Like saying "oh yeah its a stock head but It has ported/polished runners, oversized valves, dual valve springs, titanium retainers, 302 duration high lift cams but yeah the head is stock" or " yeah i have a full spherical bushing suspension, stitch welded seams, full lexan windows with a 10 point roll cage but the chassis is stock".

[@drewrich1048]

@@n0ti5 Lol I'm sure you're embellishing, but I understand. I think if a motor has pistons and rods that's not considered stock block personally. That sounds built to me. Stock block imo is completely stock bottom end. If somebody has upgraded cams and valves and stuff that's a built head to me just cause it isn't ported and shit doesn't mean anything to me.

[@TrichbeeT]

What is a block stock block block then?

[@markcozzie]

A block is a block a block block 👍

[@slayerracing440]

Drinking game: every time you say "block", we take a drink. 🤓

[@miltongimenez45]

So is a stock head with k-tuned everything, valves, cams a retainers still a stock head because there is no porting done to the head?

[@humbleperformance]

It's a stock port head.

[@imJGott]

once you replace the internals its no longer a "stock" head anymore. in other words it didnt come from the factory in that condition.

[@humbleperformance]

I understand his argument, but they're not parallel. A 'block' has multiple terms, a head does not. You have 3 distinct terms. Engine Block aka Block Short Block Long Block When you say head, it means the head, valves, springs, retainers, cams. If there were a 'short head' and 'long head', the argument would work, but it does not. I understand where he is coming from entirely.

[@justa5oh136]

That would be a built head ..

[@miltongimenez45]

Binshou if the casting is stock it's a stock head . because if rods and pistons are modified it is still a stock block 🤔 so stock block modified internals =stock head with modified internals rite

[@boostdeep3967]

I say stock is no bolt ons what so ever straight oem ... piston and rods semi built block a block with sleeves consider fully built since your going all out

[@krakenking1597]

Lol! About time you shut these kids up! Wow some of the comments i seen crack me up. Keep up the great content!

[@DEATHWISHVQ]

Long block is the short block, got it.

[@2_2_4_3]

Welp, guess I gotta be more specific when I say stock block nowadays..

[@ericxiong6582]

Cars on FB Marketplace: It's built, 0 miles on the motor. Built as in.....new valve cover gasket, new spark plug O-rings, new spark plugs and new spark plug wires. LOL

[@beardeddad1062]

How am I supposed to get work done if you keep posting videos! Good content though keep it up

[@MrMakeitnasty]

Mmm for some people like myself it’s different if you have aftermarket pistons and rods I would not consider stock block

[@markcozzie]

I agree,back in my time if had uprated pistons and rods then say forged bottom end, (stock block can be confusing to some,in my eye's a stock block means totally factor bottom end),👍

[@_Zoctane]

@@markcozzie I Agree

[@screwlewse]

"Hope that confuses.. " lol. Seriously tho, this was helpful. Proper nomenclature is actually hard.

[@toki89666]

I am sorry that you had to make this video man. Must be alot of kids that just got into Honda's last month on here.

[@ngt84]

Aaa, the value of the word "stock"...

[@itzty3371]

I dont know shit. And this helped sooooo much if you listen to it twice 😂

[@billy_s2king]

for example,here in europe stock block s2000 turbo 500hp = all the bottom is stock (rods,pistons,sleeves,crank) stock block from factory !!!

[@EB-dr4dd]

“stock short block” not stock block, he explained in the video.

[@markcozzie]

@@EB-dr4dd Why is it not a stock block?

[@xWheatThinz]

@@markcozzie YOU CAN HAVE A STOCK SHORTBLOCK WITH UPGRADED PISTONS AND IT'S STILL considered a SHORT BLOCK

[@markcozzie]

@@xWheatThinz NO NEED TO SHOUT 😭

[@xWheatThinz]

@@markcozzie I'm driving it was on voice text, Got stuck on capslock

[@Musica2013ful]

Great video and class, keep it up #HumblePerformance

[@ModGyver]

I have a stock engine built with turbo..

[@BlackyBrownDestruction9337]

It seems the tsx motor is a better motor then a rsx type s, but it could be the other way around...

[@n0ti5]

Not "better", its just a taller block witch makes its a 2.4 so more displacement = more power potential

[@StillSoundAmazing]

I’m confused, What does one do if “The block is HOT!!” 😂

[@joshuamuller9705]

Not gonna argue this 'cause it's true 😄

[@notone4029]

This video was made because of past comments!!! it really bothered this dude making videos from Humble performance!! I kind of find it funny. However how in the Fuck do a lot of viewers not know the differences.

[@BigPowerstrokeguy]

Very informational nice job

[@pavel1809]

How the fuck you don"t get confused with so many block lol lol

[@efral.b5894]

Ponga subtítulos en español

[@406c08]

Dot dot stop block block stop sleeve block clock..lmao

[@ITIRICI]

Lmao how many times you mess up explaining this. Makes sense to me, but it's funny how fast you're talking

[@darkknight-221]

Do U still have stock or no stock glasses ??🤓🤣🚗🇵🇷

[@miltongimenez45]

dark knight internally modified stock block glasses 😂

[@EB-dr4dd]

Stock springs and retainers. Low boost for added durability.

[@luisviera3482]

Sad bc I'm pretty sure some people watched this and are still confused smh

[@BucketList22]

I thought I had a handle on all this until I watched the video.... J/K

[@The_Shadetree_Mechanic]

I’m fucking dead😂☠️

[@vallon1225]

🤣🤣🤣🤣 I actually get both sides but just saying stock sleeves would've saved a lot of grief. To each their own, just waiting on another great vid.

[@vizcarraawd]

This means I had a Built SLOW ass all motor (Circuit) and a FAST Stock Boosted car (Drag)... 🤷‍♂️ Maybe im confusing Built with a-Build or Im too old... Id be embarrassed to put 7k into my turbo “Build” and have someone call it Stock.. Thats not what my wallet wants it to be called... You pull up with a big ass turbo “Stock” better not be a word coming out of any mouth... Factory Stock... is what Stock used to mean.. then theres Modified and Forced Induction..

[@grantlabay1760]

BAWNN STOCK

[@geenuz4fam]

Stokblok

[@sssmithVR]

Are people actually confused about this? SMH

[@oscarcabrera2303]

Shits annoying saying stock block stock engine nobody says that

[@Repsol000]

😂😂😂

[@pebblez_]

Oh my buddha

[@fotis2000]

Perfect video for the haters....haha

[@smokeyyang7600]

This foo trying to make up his own stuff...

[@santiagonunez6879]

Stop trying to understand...you won't understand

[@aclo982007]

So refreshing to hear someone call an engine an engine........gtfo with that "motor" terminology!