Straight Men Don’t Like Women (Feat.

[@tamaradavis2276]

Just to flip it to the female perspective, those same men that accuse you of being gay for defending women, also accuse women who aren't interested in them of being lesbians because that's the only possible answer to not wanting that particular man on his terms.

[@ythelldoineedahandle]

They accuse women of worse things than just being lesbians, sadly.

[@Poorstargazer23]

Oh yep. But they aren't the problem, obviously, everyone else is the problem 🤣

[@delfyinc]

Either a lesbian or a whore, in my experience. Like, if a guy wants to sleep with you and finds out you're sleeping with a different guy, whore seems to be the go-to

[@Billiard-cp1my]

True!🤣

[@rhov-anion]

@@delfyinc Haha, so true! "I want to sleep with you. Wait, you're in a deep relationship with someone else? WHORE. You also claim you're not madly in love with me after I was nice to you once? LESBIAN!"

[@xejelah]

It always shocks them to find out the strongest male feminists are fathers. Often married.

[@AS-rr9km]

Right, literally. Wonder how they got a wife??? 😂❤

[@katmartindale8049]

I was raised by two feminists. Of the two of them, my dad was the biggest feminists. Mom showed more by doing but Dad teaching and treating us with respect and expectations of us advocating for ourselves as we grew up with him at our backs.

[@beans666]

It doesn't surprise me one bit. They realize what their daughters (if they have them) could be facing and want to change it. Except for my dad, of course. 🙃

[@hereweare9096]

He’s not a male feminist. He thinks a man with a pen/is can be a woman.

[@lee48lee68]

They have to be feminists to raise confident, intelligent and empathetic daughters and sons.

[@GoingSwimmingly]

“Is it gay to.. - checks notes - Love women?”

[@NullitasOfOne]

Yes obviously 😂

[@ottehallaren]

Its kinda gay

[@ealpacaf.7463]

Lol

[@Ezra411st]

well yes because women see dick

[@vsfreddy]

I see you spotted the big problem with the professors “hot take”….I guess the only question is whether you’re going to believe his very problematic assumption, or believe the truth is something more rational.

[@chaosberatung6245]

Actually I've started to quote your "women preferring sweet solitude to stupid men". That's a diamond eye-opener! Thank you

[@misspriss2482]

This. When people ask me why I'm not married, I try to be polite. The truth is that I haven't met the man worth giving up my solitude for. I'm sure many men feel the same. Relationships are a lot of work and drama.

[@al-mungus677]

​@@misspriss2482sorry average men don't have the option of the ability to value other people so much lower then themselves to not respipricate if approached.

[@Legend-io4pz]

​@@al-mungus677 A heterosexual guy who genuinely enjoys women doesn't care if he's attractive, wealthy, tall, or short. He'll have all the ladies he needs. These aren't men, but I hope they recover from whatever trauma they had. Remember there are nice men out there; do not give up hope.

[@misspriss2482]

@@al-mungus677 Huh? So most men are so desperate that they'll date anybody? That's not good. Having standards isn't seeing people lower than me; it's being very specific about who I date. If a person isn't going to add value to your life or they are toxic, you shouldn't date them just because you have few options. Build up your self-esteem and/or learn how to be alone so that you don't settle for the first warm body that pays you attention.

[@serenitynow85]

Cat ladies being doing that for decades

[@YourXavier]

This is exactly what I've noticed about incel-types: They want women, but they don't like women. Sadly, it's disturbingly common.

[@AKBUTCHER0]

Or just masculine dudes? 😂 I don’t like women besides my wife they are all annoying and fucking terrible? It’s it bad then? Or should I like all women and treat them all like I treat my wife? I think the fuck not they didn’t do shit to deserve it

[@Hello-hello-hello456]

They don’t like women having agency.

[@Hjalmar_an_Craite]

​@@Hello-hello-hello456 what agency? 😂

[@solus8685]

They don't like women, they're only attracted to them

[@Loralanthalas]

​@@Hjalmar_an_Craite choice.

[@lesliemccormick6527]

I once politely turned down a man who asked me to dance. He declared me a lesbian, went off on me about being not good enough for him, and stomped off. I had a sprained ankle. Straight men who behave this way are just simply idiotic.

[@paulaajlove2985]

And dangerous!

[@myman8336]

You could've said that.. Maybe he's also a lesbian

[@kayleighbrown459]

​@@myman8336 Not sure you know what that word means.

[@Ollireki]

​@@myman8336 she doesn't have to. A simple "no" to a stranger shouldn't result into them throwing a tantrum.

[@lesliemccormick6527]

@@Ollireki My sentiments exactly.

[@genevieveaniko6492]

Glad someone is saying it. The amount of 'straight' men that exhibit disdain for women is very disturbing.

[@brendasullivan6453]

Right and seem to be getting worse.

[@James-co2nb]

There's a lot of disdain being shown by everyone these days. Men to women, women to men, black to white, white to black. Shame really.

[@tammtammlove3210]

Think about the old sitcom's of the 80s/90s- Married with Children sticks out to me. He hated his wife most days and she was hot....his best times were spent with his buddies and maybe the son. Many sitcom's follow the - hot annoying wife and the below average looking husband that is annoyed with said hot wife troupe. I think this is how we got here ...with it being so bad. It's been normalized and expected. 🤦🏾‍♀️🤦🏾‍♀️

[@maybemablemaples2144]

​@@James-co2nb could you perhaps not All Lives Matter this? Stay on topic please.

[@James-co2nb]

@@maybemablemaples2144 I was merely lamenting the fact that across every divide, disdain for one another seems to be on the rise but, sure, echo chamber it up if that's what you're in to...

[@sarahbarabe4990]

They can't wrap their heads around the concept of being nice to women without doing it just to sleep with them.

[@jaebrewster1826]

You need to hang out with a better class of men.

[@flowerfleur8105]

@@jaebrewster1826no she’s not saying all men or the men around her that’s she hangs out with, she’s talking about the men this video is referring to, the misogynists

[@jaebrewster1826]

@@flowerfleur8105 define it.

[@nativeofnc]

Truth: women don’t want a guy who will stay with them. They want the Chad who will use and abuse them. Sorry girl but that’s what you get.

[@joeymacks1991]

@@LA-jz8gw boooo

[@kalenagy]

I am glad a man said it. I tell guys regularly that they do not like women. Of course they denied it. But I listen to what they say and watch how the act. The only conclusion is that they do not like us.Desire us sure, but don't like us.

[@springerworks002]

Well yeah, Relationships are typically a lose situation for men. That builds up into resentments. Resentments lead to hate. It's not good. Would be nice if it would stop. But it makes sense.

[@strawberryfox8819]

​@@springerworks002How are they a lose lose situation? If you love someone, you're in a relationship with them. Maybe it works out, maybe it doesn't. How is a break up worse for a man than for a woman if it's on mutual terms and no one cheated?

[@fran791]

​@@springerworks002 that is actually incorrect, men's hatred for women stems from interactions with other men, not negative interaction with women. Just like racism doesn't stem from negative interactions with white people. There are studies on this

[@jgarcia4721]

​@@springerworks002 LOL, more incel propaganda. If you get nothing or even negative from being with a woman, maybe you don't want to be with a woman.

[@crystlelakefarm1254]

​@William Springer How is it a "lose" situation for men? Relationships aren't only about having sex, it's about being emotionally vulnerable around each other. Unfortunately most men only want sex and bail as soon as the woman wants something deeper that most men can't understand

[@cousinjake7986]

I know you're like only 5-6 years older than me, but you're still Internet Dad to me. So thanks Dad

[@thehousespouse]

I’m almost certain that he’s younger than me, and I still consider him an internet dad. 😂

[@cousinjake7986]

@Certa Mentis Ive a few stops to make but I'll try to stop by

[@vcvcvc9216]

We're pretty near in age but internet dad for sure. My real dad is 99% invisible with small bouts of trying to tell me how to live my life "as a decent young woman" like uh I don't think that's allowed? You can't quit a job then come back ten years later and start telling senior staff how to do the job, you are incredibly underqualified and any training you received is severely dated.

[@megsley]

stop putting strangers on pedestals.

[@OatmealTheCrazy]

​​@@megsley respecting someone isn't putting them on a pedestal. Also, while it may not be reliably possible to actually know anyone online, we can still admire what his internet persona is

[@Nerobyrne]

It sounds insane, but read a pickup artist book. The seething hatred for women that most of them contain is mindboggling.

[@justafanperson9646]

I read one, it was offered to me for free via email and as a non-binary individual it was hilarious to read it with my father and my partner in the car, so I got both the male and female perspective. And yes, while the things said about women in that book were appalling, the things said about men were blatantly false too.

[@Nerobyrne]

​@@justafanperson9646 oh yeah, I didn't bring it up because it wasn't relevant to my point, but it's like the books were written by aliens. I'm a cis dude who is very much into women. I think the best way to describe myself is: "Dandelion if he actually learned to fight". But I'm constantly baffled by how PUAs talk about men. Presumably, they're men themselves, but it's hard to believe sometimes.

[@Stonebrick]

Absolutely. It almost feels like they’re forcing themselves to be with women. I have the suspicion they don’t actually want them at all.

[@evil1by1]

Honestly I suspect that's how most men feel about women. Look at any male dominated thread and its all the same. Its that cracker eating bitches fault I didn't get X or they took Y from me..blah blah blah.nowhere do they take any responsibility for their lives. I just can't fathom letting my want of something as stupid as sex color my life to the point I feel I'm completely out of control. Thats what I think they are mad at

[@y3rbat3ra]

Technically, it's self-hate. They hate their desire for women but project that onto their 'object'.

[@GaiaShield]

They accuse you of scamming women because that's what they do.

[@debanikgoswami4834]

They bully other men who don't confirm to their rigid masculine standards.

[@jlspracher]

​@@debanikgoswami4834ok bud

[@kdphotos4691]

Yep, it's a trait of NPD, and since men outnumber women 8 to 1 in NPD, it is much easier to accept that any criticism that men make about women is actually projection because it is what *they* would do. Before anyone cries "NAMALT," read what I wrote carefully.

[@KA-md6je]

Yup, projecting their own motives onto him.

[@Legend-io4pz]

A heterosexual guy who genuinely enjoys women doesn't care if he's attractive, wealthy, tall, or short. He'll have all the ladies he needs. These aren't men, but I hope they recover from whatever trauma they had. Remember there are nice men out there; do not give up hope.

[@wareforcoin5780]

To be perfectly honest, as a woman, I don't _want_ those types of guys to like me. They're transparent, and easy to weed out of my life quickly as things are. I don't want to have to actually get to know them, all that wasted effort only to find out he's a douchebag. Ugh, I don't want to waste my time like that, just let them wave their red flags so I can get rid of them quickly. Edit: the comments were one wild ride on this post

[@dynamicworlds1]

Some guys put so much effort into being repulsive to women that I kinda have to wonder if getting rejected is at least subconsciously their objective.

[@vangu2918]

​@@dynamicworlds1It is they want something obviously negative to hang on women, so they don't have to be human and treat women and everybody else right.

[@emmettdonkeydoodle6230]

@@NEbluefire I’m pretty sure she knows

[@geemorales3555]

​@@NEbluefire bruh calm down. They were just replying to you. Why are you so defensive?

[@Jarimir]

​@@emmettdonkeydoodle6230 I'm pretty sure she knows, she knows. You know?

[@Shadow1Yaz]

That line of thinking (that you must be gay if you aren’t making these videos to conquer all the ladies) is something I’ve been calling the “your norm is not the default” fallacy. Because their norm is “I only act nice to women to get them to sleep with me” and they think it’s the default it’s so weird that some guy who is straight, like them, is just nice to women because he likes them as people. So you obviously have to be lying or not straight like them. But their norm is not the default and one doesn’t have to be gay to genuinely just be nice to women

[@sorayatorchic]

One of the things I like to do is engage with these misogynists as a person. It’s hysterical. They eventually shut up and run out of things to talk about.

[@babyshaq6455]

This comment reminds me of his "friend zone" video.

[@milaliah]

SAY THAT SHIT AGAIN

[@milaliah]

@@sorayatorchic well that sure says a lot 💀

[@Nerobyrne]

Yeah, I dunno if it's a mental illness or just ignorance, but there are a ton of people who seem incapable of realizing that other people are, in fact, different from them.

[@AudreyLMcFarland]

When you talk, I always get the feeling you are madly in love with your wife and your daughter and want the world to be a better place for them! Keep sharing! Little by little you make the world a better place for all! Thank you

[@nesser5369]

I feel the same way He's honestly the first creator I've seen show so much love and genuineness (idk if that's a word) and it means so much to me to see it - I really look forward to finding more lovely human being like this :) Gives me hope

[@chillafractals]

This.

[@danielcoffey4972]

Bingo. This guy is the poster boy of wife guys

[@KathyHussey063]

@@nesser5369 yes it is why I tell my kids, every person's voice standing up for whtever is right, it adds to the good ofthe world and helps change one day to happen. Minds and hearts have to have their views challenged, politely, of course, if we ever expect offensive behaviors and words to change, then we have to help the change to happen by saying the right things clearly.

[@nesser5369]

@@KathyHussey063 I absolutely love that, I look forward to doing the same with my own children one day too ❤️ Super proud of you for being such a lovely supportive parent

[@emeros8631]

They don't necessarily want women. They want sex, the feeling of being desirable by women, a servant, an incubator, a trophy, a social achievement (ie marriage)

[@lonefaolan6042]

I think they believe if they gain that social achievement than they will be valuable as a man. They do not view themselves as a person with value so they look for external validation through social conquest. It doesn’t work that way. No woman can fix the hole in anyone’s heart.

[@JuniperGal-ek2pu]

Yeah they want succubi at this point.

[@shadow21134]

​@@JuniperGal-ek2pua virgin succubi which makes no sense, and they admit to not knowing or caring if a woman gets there.

[@joysgirl]

It's the same mentality that believes men and women can't just be friends unless sexual attraction is involved.

[@Αλέξανδρος-ω9β]

Ikr ! I'm bisexual. Does it mean I can't have friends ??? 😂

[@jonasfullkvist9137]

Well i had many female friends when i was single i thought. Every single one have shared a bed with me. Dont think friends are suppose to be intimate like that. 1 crack in the armor in the right setting and your guy friends will do it also. Maybe there is a guy out there who wont. I have never met him though in my 34 years.

[@joysgirl]

@@jonasfullkvist9137 I've had a straight, male bestie for 40 years and our friendship has always been platonic. I guess I'm just fortunate.

[@jonasfullkvist9137]

@@joysgirl very lucky. To me its like a bigfoot sighting. I have heard about them but never seen in real life 😂 to honest menn like me they are just a myth hehe. In the right setting 30-40 years agoo he would have done it if you innitiated anything at all.

[@joysgirl]

@@jonasfullkvist9137, possibly, but I'll never know.

[@claracatlady9844]

It’s so sad. And that’s why women are in love with fictional characters *written by women*

[@dualkitsune3813]

And you would think men would take notes from that...not from fictional characters written by men. I mean, the handbook is right there. The hints are laid out and...nope. let's listen to this Podcaster.

[@ABC-sc2ip]

It's also why women will end up alone feeding their cats screaming about how they're lonely because of the patriarchy.

[@claracatlady9844]

@@ABC-sc2ip honestly I freaking love cats so I would be totally cool with that outcome. Loneliness is a state of mind. You can be lonely surrounded by people just as much. And in the end you should never be desperate enough to accept mediocre company just because.

[@Qwerty-jc3so]

​@@ABC-sc2ip wayyyy better than a messy divorce. We'll either marry someone who treats us right or not marry at all.

[@ABC-sc2ip]

@@Qwerty-jc3so The messy divorce where you get to take half of everything the man brought to the marriage and also half of everything he's over going to have in the future? I'm guessing you're young enough to have not figured out the marriage scam yet and take advantage of it. You will. Nothing better than landing a rich guy and then fleecing him a year or two after the wedding. At least that way, you'll have enough to afford cat food for the rest of your life.

[@aabidahsiebritz3839]

The very definition of misogyny, they don't actually like women.

[@superludwigselby4204]

How?

[@OtakuUnitedStudio]

@@superludwigselby4204 That's literally what the word means. "miso-" - hatred or aversion "-gyny" - of or pertaining to women Any man who complains about "women" in general wanting a man "to be gay" to be interested in them is someone who doesn't like women and is probably homophobic too, since "being gay" to them means "being emotionally competent."

[@superludwigselby4204]

@@OtakuUnitedStudio I don't see your point but cheers for making it simple for me

[@OsirusHandle]

@@superludwigselby4204 the idea is that even though they want women, they enjoy actively despising them so dont "like" them in the regular sense. If you liked someone, youd want them to enjoy themselves, be happy, etc. as a way to express that right, to communicate to them that you like them? But if you intentionally treat them like shit then what message are you exactly trying to get across...

[@OsirusHandle]

@@stolenjunk i hope you like urself 🥺

[@catgirl6803]

They hate us. But then they’re bothered when we don’t want them. “You’re gonna end up alone with cats.” Good. Why would I want you?

[@leannakekai162]

That’s the truth, honey! 100% *pets cat contentedly*

[@SkycometAnimeVamp]

That’s the funniest thing they say to us. I’ve loved cats since I was in diapers

[@1010_KiyamaMomo]

The best comeback to "You're gonna end up alone with cats" could be "Don't threaten me with the good times". Read this somewhere on the internet and absolutely loved it 😂

[@jenni4claire]

I have a cat now. Suddenly it all makes so much more sense. I just inherited a homeless elderly tom. Already I feel the vibe.

[@catiscray4133]

Username checks out. I love it.

[@delainarios5287]

The strongest men are the ones who can recognize the problems their own daughters, sisters, mothers and wives go through everyday. They're also the ones I respect the most.

[@thedativecase9733]

Yes like Graham Linehan of Father Ted fame - who has been called the most hated man on the internet, simply for standing up for women's rights.

[@Daizyonceagain]

​​@@thedativecase9733 its like a decadence in men..they were raised to attack and hate women...that's why feminism existed...how can you see the opposite sex as a competition rather than a person or human with the opposite sex for totality...so stupid..

[@auxin903]

I think the best cis men are the ones who can recognize and respect the problems of women who are *not* related to them at all. Women are people and not just sisters, mothers, friends to men.

[@garybalranald6323]

What problems? Breaking your nail? It's much harder to be a man. We have to deliver. Women don't have to deliver. End of story.

[@delainarios5287]

@@garybalranald6323 Men like you are the reason life is hard for women like me. You can't even get over yourself enough to consider that other people have problems, end of story.

[@Lythaera]

Yup, my step dad is just like you. the fact that he genuinely loves me and my mom and treats us right is THREATENING to them, because it challenges them to be better! they don't want to be better!! Good men challenge the status quo!

[@garybalranald6323]

Lol. Are you that delusional that you're not even aware that you're not attracted to a man like this? You'll go out, date a Chad or a bad boy, end up on their sex ladder, then complain, "why aren't these men like my step Dad! Why are all men assholes! Where are the good men?" Because these men exist and you don't choose them. And even when you do, you leave before long.

[@Lythaera]

@@garybalranald6323 lmao you sound bitter there, buddy. Maybe instead of wasting your time projecting your sad life onto strangers on the internet, you should work on yourself so women won't find you so repulsive.

[@matilda4406]

spot on !! Good men do, yes they do challenge the status quo. And show other men that they should be respectful toward women, treating them like sisters.

[@Plethorality]

it may challenge their memories of their own fathers and their own childhood wounds. we dont know what they have been through, but i daresay it was not healthy

[@solus8685]

​@@Plethorality oddly enough you don't see women deciding to hate the whole gender of men just because men treated them badly in the past

[@TheeSinnerman]

I got called a simp just for asking men to keep it consistent. Apparently that’s also too much.

[@fuckoff_loserr]

That's alright buddy. Be you. Those people are stupid.

[@craffte]

😂

[@desertmoonlee6631]

Those incels don’t only hate women but hate any man that isn’t sick like them

[@spudsbuchlaw]

Its not love, theyre in the wrong, keep being lovely!

[@vector_vector__]

Women call other women "Pick Me " girl if she do anything good for her man or say anything positive about Men in the Internet . It goes both bro not just guys .

[@Sh4d0w_L1cker]

And people wander why so many women prefer to be single. Finding a man that will treat you equally and will actually see you as a person not as an object it’s extremely rare. It’s so much better alone instead of settling for trash that will try to bring you down.

[@dandeliondunmer3637]

^^

[@33melonpaws77]

Agreed

[@misharundell9194]

We may be equal in importance but we aren’t equal. We don’t bring the same things to the table we don’t always have the same emotional depth and that’s ok

[@Sh4d0w_L1cker]

@@misharundell9194 you might’ve lived under a rock but we are not in the 1800s anymore. Both men and women work and both bring the same things to the table. I’m not sure what you’re trying to say with the emotional depth tho but we are equal in everything (besides physical strength of course but we are not cavemen anymore to hunt for food so it doesn’t matter).

[@misharundell9194]

@@Sh4d0w_L1cker ok

[@Sunshine-4me2]

My son is going to be 30 next summer. He is an active sailor in the United States Navy. I miss him so much! When you speak, you remind of him SO MUCH, seriously. I need to arrange a surprise bro-cuz male bff blind date. Is that a thing? If not it totally should be. He loves his wife with a pure sincere intensity that becomes the fuel that drive him. He respects, nurtures and protects her sweetly with and a serious intensity. I find it profoundly astounding, and I think wow, this man and tremendously dedicated Naval Sailor, and protective loving husband is my little boy. This man will definitely let his daughter give him a make over. If his son wants to play with a doll, he would go right out and by his own. And, he's my baby. Wow. I am so, so proud of him. He was named Sailor of year 🇺🇸 why stationed in Japan. How cool is that. ❤️ Just as I know your mom must be. Thanks for telling everyone the right message. Keep up the good work. The cornball llama momma, as my kids call me. For all the men and women who serve to protect us.. thank you for you service. You are in my prayers. 🇺🇸🙏🤍

[@reaper_of_souls_gaming5697]

Ma'am i have to say i love the vibes you have brought here today

[@311junglist]

Im ex navy and i will just say i hope he doesnt get treated like shit in the navy. I could tell some stories but also ya can feel good that he isnt a female and get treated like a boathoe when they aren't. Hell "boathoe" even has its own urban dictionary definition about it. I just hope he isnt on the USS George Washington.

[@60sspider-man29]

​@@311junglist they all wanna pop their cherry trees on the USS George Washington.

[@311junglist]

@@60sspider-man29 with the sailors are unaliving themselves on the GW, i dont really find that funny at all nor the horrible living conditions while in the shipyards and told to suck it up. It took 7 unalivings before they ssid "hold up, why is this hspoening?" They dont give a fuck. And if you survive the attempt they may slap a charge of damaging government property, i speak from experience. When i made it i got charged with that, i should have been automatically discharged for doing it but nope just the charge and then treat ya even worse. Not every duty station is like that but mine sure was. There are some great duty stations but if it even hapoens 1 time thats too damn much. Ship psychologist tried talking to him and got told to het the fuck out of his office.

[@Xara_K1]

​@@311junglist Well then maybe they shouldn't volunteer to come into our countries and commit unspeakable atrocities.

[@CloutmasterPhluphyy]

So weird how liking women has become so demonized on the internet as "simp behavior"

[@theoriginalbeanboy]

there is a difference between respect and simpage

[@JaharNarishma]

The simp discord had evolved a lot before I started encounter it regularly. My early contact with simp men being a term on the Internet had 2 usages. One was the derogatory use and the other was a flipping of the script, making simps the women respecting guys that are popular by women in contrast to the "alphas" with their warped view. People were laughing at the alphas more than seeing simps as something bad.

[@jfm14]

​@@theoriginalbeanboy Agreed. The problem is that mere common courtesy in men is now viewed as "simping" by a sizeable chunk of the straight, male population. Reminds me of all the times I've been accused of leading men on just for being polite and friendly.

[@theoriginalbeanboy]

@@jfm14 honestly society is broken. you are either too nice, too mean, too pretty, too masculine, not masculine enough, too feminine or not feminine enough. shit sucks ass but not much i can do about it, though i wish i could.

[@monejohn9973]

I noticed mostly broke dudes call people simp because they're not able to offer anything other than their tiny penises!! The perfect example is Jeff basil is the richest man on earth he voluntarily gave his wife everything she wanted in the divorce because he said that she deserved it because she was The backbone to everything in his life and so many dumb ass dudes lost their mind lol now I'm Auto talking so some things might be spelled wrong but imagine telling the most successful richest man on Earth that he doesn't know what to do with his money

[@Mrscheesecake1]

Girls are seen as a prop to enhance the main character in any movie.

[@KEESWAY]

True 😩

[@callmeswivelhips8229]

I hate this. If a child has any character or depth, it's usually a boy. And if a little girl does have any depth, it's so that her death means a bit more than it otherwise would.

[@Mrscheesecake1]

@@callmeswivelhips8229 it was getting better there for a moment but with all the negativity spreading around now it’s starting to look like we’re going backwards

[@hyun5985]

Nope. It is usually men who are seen as props who are brutally murd3red in 1 second by both heros and villains.

[@some-one-else]

@@hyun5985 That's complete bullshit lmao.

[@chilimango0724]

I've actually learned about the psychology behind this in my college classes- Men (statistically most, not exactly all) have a serious over-perception/misperception bias. A friendly smile from a woman is interpreted (inaccurately, of course) as "She's giving obvious signals she wants to sleep with me!"

[@tally9542]

I actually think a lot of that comes from how we socialise men. Because boys and men are so rarely complimented for just... being themselves, especially from peers, they percieve any form of it as the highest form of it, becaude they have no way to gauge it. Its the same idea as when conservatives freak out over minority representation and say its being "shoved down their throat". Well than and they just don't like women and minorities.

[@tfkdandsvkc]

I would like to learn more about this male psychology

[@tally9542]

@@tfkdandsvkc It's not necessarily "male psychology" its, psychological averages that result from how we raise men, on average, in our society. The misperception bias is seen in a lot of young women too. It's why you see a lot of 40 something dudes with 20 something women. Because they've never been exposed to someone who treats them like they're a mature woman before, so the first dude that comes along that does it, they over react to. Creepy 40 somethings know this, it's why they go for young women.

[@Snipergoat1]

@@tally9542 No, it's far simpler than that. 40 year old dudes will go for 20 something chicks because they are hotter than 40 something chicks. Even if attractiveness is not the primary thing they are looking for it still ranks highly. Although let's discuss perception bias for a moment. When shown several pictures of different women and asked to rank them on a 1-10 scale the average was 6 with a nice smooth bell curve on both sides with both the unusually homely and attractive falling to the ends in small numbers. In other words exactly what you would expect from a collection of random people. When shown pictures of guys women evaluations centered at around 3.5 with tapering at the ends and then a bump on the end at the 8-9 category. In other words completely out of holding with the standard distribution of things. Lest you think maybe these just happened to contains a greater than average number of unattractive men, the pool was of 500 pictures each and each subject was asked to rate 100 of them chosen at random. This suggest that men have a much more rational ability to rate attractiveness and thus their assessments fell right into the distribution that most things fall into. Women on the other hand believed most men were below average in appearance with a small bump up when they personally found attractive. You don't really need to do much math to realize that most being below average has a statistical problem. So riddle me this. Who has the greater perception problem? There is a fairly easy answer to both your point and this one but I'm not going into it. Suffice it to say that it involves reproductive strategy and it pisses off some feminist types, not exactly sure why it doesn't degrade anyone, it just gives reasons for well known cogitative biases in potential sexual/romantic partners. Then again, I've given up on finding rationality from anyone who calls themselves a feminist today.

[@tiahnarodriguez3809]

@@Snipergoat1 Just say you’re a red-pill pedo and move on. Men in their 40’s make it a point to get with girls in their 20’s because they are easier to control compared to women in their 40’s who see through these guy’s bs. If you are an older person and you’re attracted to people who just became legal… that’s not a flex.

[@AstrologyALookInside]

YOU are normal. THEY are abnormal. Always remember that and keep your empathy.

[@donfaber3203]

That is perfect. They are the ones hating being not normal humans but predators

[@feedyourfeminine]

Needed this comment!!!!

[@lunaloynaz-lopez2318]

Do not extend empathy to people that do not extend it to you. That is what gets women killed

[@VickyChowdhary-hx5ql]

WHATEVER majority do is considered 'normal'

[@Onepieceistheworstfuckinganime]

Says the weird broad who believes in astrology.

[@baronesselsavonfreytag-lor1134]

I used to know a guy who was 6'7" with a tattooed scalp and always hung out in the kitchen with the ladies instead of the man cave. He said the conversation was much more interesting with women. He was also a devoted husband and not trying to get over on anyone. He didn't have anything to prove but it did show his intelligence.

[@eupo5936]

I respect that man. I can’t handle being in a room full of women for more than 5 minutes. Makes me want to end myself.

[@baronesselsavonfreytag-lor1134]

@@eupo5936 The feeling is probably mutual.

[@water.lilies__.]

Don't we all love intelligence? 🤠🧠😉✨️

[@johnsadlier2659]

Intelligence haha? “Women’s conversations are usually more intelligent and interesting then males converations” hahahahahahahahahaha give me a break. Women talk about people…..men talk about things… everything that isnt people. Big tattoo man must just be a gossiping person hahaha koz thats all women pro dominantly talk about, people(gossip)! Not more intelligent wtf…. Talking about people all the time …. The world would have not been built hahahaha its men who talk about important things

[@baronesselsavonfreytag-lor1134]

@@johnsadlier2659 Whatever you say, Chief Little D.

[@nothisispatrick9778]

As a young woman, all I have to say is and this is coming from my heart and my brain…. “Why the f**k is it so damn difficult to treat people normally?!?!??!!?” 🥴

[@cammokyle]

Cus hormones from puberty literally complicate every single thing down to "am i doing this cus I want to or cus I FEEL the need to from hormones" and for guys, its usually hormones. It can be quite frustrating having your life dictated in certain ways because of horny hormones. It's part of why a lot of guys of weird women hating aspects to them. It's not really the woman they are hating, they are hating the fact they are so easily controlled by hormones women illicit in men (from puberty).

[@desertmoonlee6631]

@@cammokyle it’s about education mostly because it’s worst in some cultures than others and it explains the way they are educated there and raised. The world is weird..

[@andrewgreeb916]

Thanks to everything being some bigtime political battle any bad actor gets blown way the heck out. That and feminism has literally been trying to murder chivalry so most men prefer to avoid women leaving only the bad actors to go after the women.

[@andrewgreeb916]

@@cammokyle Guys have had hormones since the first day, this wasn't an issue until recently, it's a society issue not a hormone problem.

[@thecaprikid1329]

It's not difficult. Most men don't understand self discipline is also about controlling all YOUR actions. Stop blaming your hormones on us. Not our problem nor can we control how our bodies look, driving YOUR lust. Not ours. We didn't ask for your attractions specifically, so handle it as it's YOUR problem. Not ours. Control yourself or the laws will have to. There. Simple enough for you?

[@TheTwil1]

It’s true. The usual is when a woman is thought of is…she will cook for ME, clean for ME, have MY children, drop her name and take MINE….

[@theAntiCauliflower]

Yes, very selfish and arrogant of men

[@enechan5037]

Two of the guys who give me hope in humanity. More please ❤️

[@Pencilbox-lq6os]

Who’s the other? I need reccs

[@bluesideace]

​@@Pencilbox-lq6os their name is barrett pall^^

[@katestark2519]

He's not on social media, but I can't tell you that my husband belongs on that list. 16 years of marriage and he gives me hope, as a man, as a partner, and as a father to an 8yo girl and a 13yo boy! No one's perfect, but he works every day to learn and do better, and to teach our kids the same! (really not tryna show off, I just think it helps to know there are more normal dudes like this in the world)

[@Financiallyfreeauthor]

@@katestark2519 my husband as well. Speech Prof reminds so much of my wonderful husband

[@chronicallyhere]

Truth! Straight men do things to impress other straight men, if they actually wanted to impress women they would evolve and grow up and have some emotional depth like you l.

[@lizicadumitru9683]

Too bad they can't just turn the "gay on" ha!... Although I'd fear for my gay brethren if they could 😨

[@Jarimir]

Bromosexuals

[@KathyHussey063]

It's amazing how much our egos will drive us to do just to TRY to be seen the way we want others to view us, isn't it? Born into a patriarchal society, our toxic testosterone worshipping society, that our male ancestors created & then oppressed, abused, tortured & even killed millions of people to TRY to keep control of, the male children see the toxic masculinity & all of it's not so covert messages everywhere all their lives. We've been raised in a world steeped in commercialism so we are used to the huge amount of competition there is for every ressource we have. No other society has ever before had to deal with instant access to click and buy whatever we want, to shop 24/7 if we want to.Television's intrusion into family homes starting in the 1950's, led to vcr's, videotapes, dvd's, cd's, then cable tv & it's 548 channels of instant gratification, news, porn, violence, horror, brutal sports, reality tv shows that display people cpmpeting for ait time, prizes, attention, a rose, a car....something. All of it is pumped into our homes & so our brains even before we can speak a language we re soaked in it. Today's brain is being bombarded with infectious drivel, poisonous words, insane levels of greed, selfishness & commercialism. We're born into the mindset that we must compete for EVERYTHING.& it seems to be the main drive behind most things we humans do & think. Male children are indoctrinated by this world to believe they're stronger and so must be "better" somehow & it continues being reinforced all their lives by our crooked world.They're taught to believe they must compete with every other guy, for jobs, dates, SAT scores, college scholarships & are told through this world that they must WIN in order to be looked at with any respect by other people and to be valued by their families. So it's the other men's opinions of them that confirm to them whether they are succeeding or failing to do all they wish to do and be.Sadly, their own fathers are usually who they foirst turn to seekig this approval and when they don't get it there, it's tough for them to feel adequate or that they are a man.

[@joshlanders]

​@@lizicadumitru9683I'm not speaking from direct experience but baiting definitely happens. Essentially you just don't know so awareness, instinct and consent are all key to safety. All the stereotypes you think might give someone "gaydar" clues to their sexuality are all out the window. Nothing beats verbal consent.

[@paulybear8952]

Straight women do the same thing. They try to impress other women. They need to grow up.

[@KARMAZYNA]

It might be just my ace brain talking, but I simply don't understand how some people fail to grasp the concept of liking someone without wanting to have sex with them.

[@jessicaharris1608]

It's not just you. I'm a straight married woman. I have quite a few male friends who are very dear to me who I've never wanted to be sexually involved with. I'm quite sure that they've never wanted to sleep with me either. I wouldn't want to be friends with anyone who was harboring romantic feelings for me even if I was single, unless it was a mutual thing. I didn't want to have male friends who had unrequited romantic intentions because that's just cruel. I am the type to be blunt and state openly that I only want friendship because I tend to get along with men better than most women. Now I can say that I'm married, so I try to introduce my friends to my husband too so they can be his friend too.

[@benjaminortiz4857]

Coming from a guy who did claim to be a feminist for years then went through a lot of trauma in an 8yr relationship where my partner essentially molded the idea that it's impossible to be friends with the sex you're inclined to like, I want to say that I'm currently lost.. I Tried being single and just myself but found women naturally attracted to me, and I didn't Want a relationship so I thought we could be friends, but I realized once I mentioned someone showed interest in me they'd get weird and ghost me for a bit.. meaning they Were interested in me and were likely jealous... Then I am currently in a situation where I would sleep w/ a friend I made.. I have a crush on her... but she's in a relationship, which I will respect.. My question is Can ppl that are attracted to eachother be just friends? Can I be in support of women and be a feminist if I Would ultimately sleep with women who I have built trust with.. and lastly, I Do have discipline and Would Not just sleep with any and all women, but my brain still desires physical intimacy, but I Don't want another relationship because of my terrible last one.. so Am I a douche? Am I like my ex would always tell me, just like every other guy? Am I just pretending to be a good guy to get sum? 😓

[@benjaminortiz4857]

​@@jessicaharris1608 how would you feel if your friends Did tell you they were actually in to you. Maybe for a short period maybe since always.. but how would you feel? I used to think it was possible to be friends with the opposite sex but I don't know anymore. And a few female friends I Have had these past 9 months were seemingly into me. Even some that were in relationships and claimed to have plenty of guy friends

[@jessicaharris1608]

@@benjaminortiz4857 I did have a friend years ago hint that he was interested but I shut it down cause I didn't return the interest. Any male friends I have now though, they know I'm happily married and they are usually on good terms with my husband if not actually friends with him too.

[@crazydragy4233]

​​​@@benjaminortiz4857 Are you sexually attracted to every woman? Like, all 3+ billion of them? Are you sexually attracted to 18 year olds and 90 year olds? Are they attracted to you? Even if attraction gets in the way of platonic relationships most sane people aren't attracted to the majority of the people around them... Are you sure loneliness and desperation for intimacy isn't impacting your outlook? And why do you think the opposite sex couldn't be in a similar situation as you. (Also in the dating scene it's been common to say you're not into sex/dating as a way to signify you're not desperate and/or creepy.) Do you want to be with a woman? Or do you want to be with a person?

[@limlaith]

A large number of men I have known and men I have overheard -- the instant any woman rejects them, their immediate reaction, their INSTSANT insult is to call the woman a whore. For _not_ sleeping with them, women obviously fuck men for money. It's INSANE. They immediately display anger, become hostile, throw out insults and stomp away in a huff. And their worst insult for one another is pussy. The thing that is supposed to be their most favorite, the thing they are trying to gain access to, what they are trying to conquer is the one thing they despise most. And they say we're the crazy ones???

[@wingknight7132]

Ur crazy alright

[@tfkdandsvkc]

It's so messed up narcissistic and contradictory in how they talk about women they hate women so much and have so many damaging insults to use against us,,calling women a whores and being jealous of women achievements is male psychology for you it's absolute insanity

[@ceciliapetrowsky2572]

Well said!

[@leilameow9582]

psychotherapist Previn Karian explains this very well. He calls misogyny a disease of the mind in the male brain. There is something deeply embedded in men's brains making them hate women. He says men who don't harbour this resentment do so by acknowledging their hate and actively working on changing their thoughts. It is the same reason racists will hate and attack an entire group because of the smallest slight. The hate is latent they just needed that one experience to set them off.

[@al-mungus677]

​@@wingknight7132yeah men are crazy for comparing the thing that sucks to get for most men to being a coward nah shit just sucks for most guys.

[@d011p4rtz]

when dudes call other dudes a "simp" for treating women with respect

[@jghfgghfurhj2662]

No Simps are guys who treat unrespectable women with respect. It’s referring to the man has no honor or dignity. He’s so lonely and miserable that he’ll fuck a doll. That’s what it’s describing

[@d011p4rtz]

@@jghfgghfurhj2662 lemme guess, your lord and savior is you "Top G" Andrew Tate.

[@cajunking5987]

You call pandering to with lies respect? Yeesh

[@d011p4rtz]

@@cajunking5987 whatever incel 😘

[@cajunking5987]

@@d011p4rtz do you know what that word means?

[@rosecity_chris]

The older I've gotten the less I get bothered by certain dudes shit talking, because you eventually realize they're just exposing themselves as extremely insecure.

[@kaikai-pb7fh]

who hurt you Chris

[@BliffleSplick]

They're "Pick me" girls, but flipped They'll throw anyone under the bus if it means they'll be liked by their peers

[@Asiwnsk]

@@kaikai-pb7fh I think you should ask yourself your own question. What Chris said is very reasonable but for some reason it seemed to trigger you. Have you found yourself in his comment?

[@kaikai-pb7fh]

@@Asiwnsk calm down.. it was a joke. You also shouldn't talk with your mouth full.

[@lunaloynaz-lopez2318]

@@kaikai-pb7fh yawn. Schrödinger's douchebag. And the narcissist's prayer

[@cptzoom1155]

They love to toss around the word misandry with the vigor and intellectual ability of a toddler who just googled the word.

[@francyssscarlett1757]

And carry the word straight into the mud with them...

[@cptzoom1155]

@@francyssscarlett1757 yupppppp

[@reallynow7718]

LMFAOO

[@riccardozanoni2531]

And the most ironic thing is that what they are complaining about are often byproducts of, you guessed it, misogyny... They hate misogyny and they don't even know it. Cognitive dissonance at its finest

[@francyssscarlett1757]

@@riccardozanoni2531 Absolutely. The patriarchy oppresses everyone, male female and nonbinary. And yet so many of any of those genders still uphold it.

[@theodorathompson2034]

I am a 69 year old grandmother who has spent decades puzzling over where the misogyny endemic in society comes from. I’ve asked many men and not one has been able to explain why men, on the whole, just don’t like women. I’ve known very young boys already with a sense of male privilege and entitlement, deeply upset about girls winning anything, or taking leadership roles. The first woman elected to membership of The Royal Society ( of science) was excluded because the Attorney General ruled she was not “a person.” I wish men could think of women as people first, very much more alike than different. It has made me very, very sad.

[@blastphantomgames6369]

There was a lot of boys vs girls in my elementary school temporarily for some reason the girls likes the rhyme the most likely annoyingly so poor teachers. Needless to say getting called stupid for no reason besides being born certainly fostered feelings so that could be a reason for the young ones it is completely possible to instigate smoke when a competition is involved or better yet Competition for a lot of reasons give many losing sucks For me though when it comes to harassment female and men mean the same thing for me equally bad. I'm not going to get into but y'all tripping and you act the same why are any of us here rn?

[@ilikepancakes2368]

As a man I can tell you why, to my shame, I became a misogynist however this is just my own personal experience and may not reflect men in general. I had a mother who was selfish and narcissistic and never showed an ounce of appreciation to my kind hardworking father. I had two ex girlfriends, one who lied and cheated on me while she ironically, proclaimed herself a feminist. The other, who verbally abused me and slapped me once. Then, I find a group of men online who shared the same experiences I had. Listening to all the so called feminists blaming me for crimes I never committed. Then, I became rageful and bitter. Realizing the true reason why I endured the pain I did. Somedays, I had fantasies about murdering women, abusing them, making them suffer. I wanted vengeance. However, I never acted upon those fantasies nor wanted to do it cause I realized there is no justification behind it. I’m trying to be better now, getting rid of the anger that I carry inside me. Despite my hatred, part of me still wants to love women and build a family with them. There is no excuse for me being a misogynist, and I wish I never was but sometimes anger and trauma can lead you to dangerous places. As said before, I love women and I wish I would never go back to that stage again. That was just my personal experience so I hope that gave some perspective.

[@seewobble7048]

The inherent misogyny is easily explained. We live in a male controlled society, ie, a patriarchy, that posits women as inferior to men. Being as old as you are I'm baffled as to why you seemingly don't know this. Why do you think Feminism is a thing??

[@justsomenobody889]

Yes, I wish more people would realize that the most disturbingly prejudiced people have had consistently bad experiences with certain types of people that made them that way, and it ends up coloring all future interactions with that group. I also see it often with these severe feminists who cross the line into overt sexism against men, and it’s always because they’ve had awful experiences. I think people need to remember that you will only be able to get to know a infinitesimal fraction of the humans on this earth, and it’s quite likely for you to end up with a skewed sample. .

[@janka482]

​@@ilikepancakes2368i have known many awful men destroyed in their childhood by their father that was abusive to a kind wife and mother. And by the inherited character from their fathers. Quite an unbearable combination. I don't understand why traumatized men and women still want a relationship. Or why nontraumatized people want a relationship at all when it is a source of so many other issues. Can you imagine giving up on the expectation of having a partner and do whatever u like in your life and care more for your family and friends instead?

[@katiemilady197]

It's just sad how women (and men too) are hated solely because they were born a female. Thank you for your vids. You make so many "complicated" things seem common sense.

[@katiemilady197]

@@jasperhernandez7364 I was mainly talking about women, but also in parentheses put "men" too because men are also subject to similar situations.

[@devent10n]

​@@katiemilady197 also, trans men exist ¯⁠\⁠_⁠ʘ⁠‿⁠ʘ⁠_⁠/⁠¯

[@inkompetenzkompensationsko4188]

It's like a lot of "female" things are inherently bad to them. Being a girl/women, being soft spoken, liking certain stuff... It's sad.

[@katiemilady197]

@@devent10n yes sorry I missed that.

[@katiemilady197]

@@inkompetenzkompensationsko4188 I 💯 agree. It's sad too cuz because I'm Asian , some men in the past automatically think I'm subservient or they've tried to make me that way. Ummmm it isn't ancient times anymore!!! Lol (even back then the oppression was bad, probably worse!)

[@a.b.2850]

I got into a confrontation with my oldest son (15) last week, about feminism. He thought feminism was believing women are better than men. Mothers, TALK TO YOUR SONS. It’s our only way.

[@eahemming]

When a lot of young self identified feminists make continuous arguments that women are better than men (I'm talking from experience. My sister and her friends did this for years) it's hard not to think that. Don't invalidate your kids experience with the word feminist. Show him what it is to want equality for genders.

[@Recurring_raccoon]

Lol whenever I hear other dudes complain about feminist I ask them if they believe women should have equal rights as men, they then get upset at me when I tell them that if they said yes there’re feminists 😂

[@DanniBby]

Have you seen how crazy some feminists are? Some are really men hating and do make it look like it is about women being better than men. It’s not his fault that he saw this and thought that it was what feminism was about, there’s so many women on the internet who give feminism a bad representation.

[@florencia2771]

A.B : There are several types of feminists. YES, there are feminists who HATE men. How you do not know this in this day and age? Lady, protect YOUR SON! I also have a 16 yo SON, we talk about it.

[@florencia2771]

@@eahemming teach your children to identify individuals -good people, bad people. Those labels such as “feminists” are vague and don’t help much.

[@deezcheney9730]

How men act online makes me not want to even try talking to any of them just in case it's one of those many.

[@lyam4682]

My exact thoughs.. I'm not desperate at all to take the risk.. I prefer enjoying the fictional version of man through the female gaze on Kdramas, Novels and Movies. Those characters are the one thing keeping myself from hating men. Real men tend to be predatory, controling, and overall degenerate perverts. I'll pass..

[@anotherrandomguy8871]

@@lyam4682 depends on the person honestly. Even most of women appear manipulative, sexist, hateful or socially toxic and from the internet, or straight up abusive yet commonly deny their actions of abuse, but in the end most women are not like that, tho irl I have commonly encountered nasty women anyways at my high school. I do the same thing with the bots kinda, but again to pass a whole sex or sexuality as predatory isn’t really true.

[@lyam4682]

@@anotherrandomguy8871 I guess it's not about the gender so then; most people are awful in general? In my case I do have a lot of female relatives who are sweet/kind and when it comes to men.. my perspective isn't good not having any good male figures around me (neither family members or work colegues) and so far having bad experiences when trying to befriend men (apparently it's offensive for them to be friendly if you are not willing to date/sleep with them; since they don't see you as another human being just as their male friends. So being polite/kind and then saying no ti their advances makes them angry) Plus the bad perception of men in social media and documentaries wich doesn't help but adds to the stereotype of men being violent and perverts. But you apparently are one of the few who appers to be reasonable, so thank you for your polite reply. ^^

[@anotherrandomguy8871]

@@lyam4682 thanks also agreed, it’s In general that people can be awful, but it’s not a set thing based on sex “most/all xyz sex are bad” or “xyz sex is bad because most of them are *insert heavy gendered stereotype about said sex*” however I can’t say or not if it’s just that most people are shitty, as tempering as it could be to just say that most people are horrible instead of it maybe just being a mix of good and bad people. Hopefully you do meet better men in your life.

[@lyam4682]

@@anotherrandomguy8871 You might be right.. maybe we should try to give anyone the benefit of the doub regardless of their gender. I'm assuming you are a man. You seem like a good person, I appreciate your replys. Thank you :)

[@spaceface320]

Barrett always has great, insightful takes. He did another on how straight men don’t like women’s interests or things, because primarily, as you mentioned here, patriarchy teaches to view women as a means to an end, property at its most primitive and earliest association. Cue how men’s interests are highlighted and “cool” and women’s are “lame” and how men who partake in those interests have “woman” be used as a pejorative. Straight men who internalize the patriarchy are attracted to the appearance and performance of “woman”, but not woman herself

[@whatTFisThis]

As a kid that mindset always hurt me so much, cuz ive never rly been that interested in makeup or dresses but everyone was constantly assuming i am/should be Prolly the worst case i saw of it is when i looked at "boys vs girls" memes, and instead of it being things relevant to gender, its was abt how "girls cant be gamers and always wear high heels around the house" shit

[@LoriCiani]

​@@whatTFisThis I have never really fitted the stereotype of the typical woman. I rarely wear makeup or dresses, most times I wear tshirts , jeans and trainers, never heels. I like science fiction, always have done. I am independent since my divorce. Yet, I am a straight female. When I was younger I was teased for my lack of "femimimity" and "fashion sence". I dressed to feel comfortable, not to please others. On the odd time I have worn make up and a dress it has been seen as "making an effort".

[@whatTFisThis]

@@LoriCiani bruh i can relate, i havent had it that bad luckily

[@SIS3W3N]

The interest normally associated with traditional gender roles are pretty lame on both sides. Sports, beer, and loud engines? Hard pass.

[@terra_the_nightingale135]

It’s realizations such as these arhat that make me really happy when my boyfriend indulges in my interests and actually finds a way to take an interest in it too even if it’s not mainly his thing and has fun with different passions.

[@someone3187]

As a female I felt this many times in my life and it made me sad. From my understanding (hetero) men want to have sex with women, they may even fall in love for a while, but they don't really like them. I just give up.

[@cmonman3639]

The 19th amendment was a fatal mistake.

[@lalboimanlun1230]

Like women like "good" men. Men also like "good" women.

[@lara2937]

@@lalboimanlun1230 and we all know “good” means subservient. Gtfo

[@marencruickshank]

I've never heard anyone say this all my life until now but I've been observing it... and these same men would also admit that these women r legit good women. I need to understand this phonemon better.

[@AyAReI00]

I SEE """"""good men""""" pretending a whole personality for a woman they """"like"""((want to have sex with) to alter mock their taste, the things that make them happy, how hey put too much make up or little make up and cuz they don't idolized EVERY single hobby they have ... SO bizarre

[@darkandstormymama]

My husband says that ALL the time. Men that complain about stretch marks, dark spots, emotional outbursts, confusing mood swings, listening to someone babble for hours, who are grossed out by hair or periods or just our bodies being bodies Don't. Like. Women. And not all women suffer from all those "ailments" but at the end of the day, if all you do is complain about women and insult men who don't, you seem far less masculine

[@Filthy_Larry]

I was thinking about the girl of my dreams. My PP was hard. I’m laying in bed about to have a nice stroke. The image of a young hot playboy playmate comes to my mind and I can see her. Rising from the hot tub with bubbles from the water. She’s nude and her behind is nice and smooth. You would think it was a chocolate dispenser. Then all of a sudden, I’m reading through your comments and see all the things you listed such as moles, farts, stretch marks, dark spots, skid marks. Then I went limp. Thanks a lot you 🤡

[@IHEARTCOQUETTECLOTHES.777]

Its genuinely so weird to me that straight men genuinely hate women but also specifically hate gay men like they are just shooting themselves in the foot.

[@Mattnoble80]

I am a 42 year old man who is married and has children. My best friends in the world are women, I would sincerely do anything for them and them for me. I hang out with other men but have also been viewed in the same way he described

[@fran791]

🥺🤍🤍🤍

[@williammaser]

And there are some people that don’t want relationships at all, and just want to treat people nicely and with respect. But they would probably call me gay as well.

[@chey7691]

It's because they think gay is a insult still, and they can't fathom respecting someone they are attracted to. People like us challenge the status quo and raise the bar, they are afraid they have to work to keep up like it's some sort of game. People are not objects so they require human respect to interact with properly, and women are people. I'm asexual so I feel that I don't really care for a "normal" relationship, and I'm also fine with platonic love. Letting other people live their own lives, and giving them the basics of human respect makes for a much better life in the long run than blaming a entire group for your personal problems.

[@blastphantomgames6369]

Wouldn't say challenging the status quo

[@myman8336]

​@@chey7691 That last part sounds like a You problem lol

[@thecaprikid1329]

​@@myman8336 that's why it's on KZbin, duh. K Catch up, mustard 🙄

[@GothicElf68]

@@chey7691 Many of these men are incels and extremely misogynistic. They treat women like shit, then cannot understand why they cannot get or GF or even get laid. And they hate those of use who treat women with respect and have better than what they want. So, they try to dehumanize both us and women. It's rather pathetic, really.

[@la381]

You're the kind of dad/man/father/friend/husband EVERY girl and boy needs. That's right. A MAN BEING A DECENT HUMAN MAKES HIM A BETTER DAD AND HUSBAND

[@crystaloats8177]

So true. ❤

[@abbyxiong3931]

❤❤❤

[@therealkeithkogane]

ENBY’S TOO YISSSS ❤️❤️❤️

[@Snipergoat1]

Your last sentence was very correct. Your first one is a problem. I seriously doubt his potential to be the second. A decent man is not the one who only tells you what you want to hear. That it is never your fault and your difficulties have been put upon you by others. This dude has a sence of moral superiority and be is deliberately misinterpreting things that a man of his age should have figured out years ago. Self deception or just flat out lying is easy when it feeds your ego to do so. So by all means find you the most decent guy you possibly can. Just figure that this guy is not it nor will it be any guy that acts like this. Pretty much avoid any modern day male feminists or guys that unironically use the term toxic masculinity. A better option though is if you have any trusted male friends or relatives ask them to size up a potential guy you've met. Obviously they can make mistakes too but there are certain traits and tendencies that men can spot more readily than women can. Simply because we have spent more time around more guys in unguarded circumstances and have learned that certain types of people have certain tells that are revealed in minor things. This guys forthright seeming confidence while stating things that were completely incorrect and should be thing that a man in his 40's should have figured out long ago. This combinations lights up every "this guy is pulling something alarm" there is. That and buzzwords. sincere people often avoid buzzwords because they often take on connotations that may not work. Use of buzzwords indicated either a lack of communication ability or a lack of sincerity and our self proclaimed speech professor does not appear to have any communication problems. This is just one internet randos opinion but this guys has "asshole" and "Do not trust" written all over him in glowing script. This is not a good or decent man.

[@ThinWhiteLuke]

If only women chose guys like him to have kids with, we wouldn’t have so many of these bad men. Unfortunately women always pick the toxicly masculine guys, the ones this videos is criticizing. Then those guys just leave their kid and the cycle continues and no one learns anything and everything sucks. Nihilism loop.

[@crystalmorgan8039]

I was seeing a guy for a bit. I got tired of being used and told him I wanted a real relationship and something deeper than sex. He literally said " what else is there?"

[@Cecilpedia]

That's just sad. It goes to show that men are taught that "real" manliness is to be shallow and not in touch with emotions. You deserve way better than that.

[@catgirl6803]

Every man I’ve ever been with I felt like I was being used for sex. I never felt like it was anything more.

[@kb-wu7ws]

@@catgirl6803 Still haven't learned? You set the price ma'am. It's pretty simple, if you want a man to value you, you have to value yourself first. Weak men prey on weak women. If there are more weak women, men will learn they can be weak too.

[@mjj7781]

It's crazy how many man don't exist on a soul level. It's always been so terrifying to me.

[@kb-wu7ws]

@@mjj7781 Sure, but women who sleep with these guys before building any real relationship must be righteous?

[@tammtammlove3210]

After my 40 years on earth it has finally dawned on me your right most men don't seem to really like women. 🤷🏾‍♀️

[@bonnsterthemonster]

That's because all men are emotionally more concerned with what men think of them than their woman. All. This is the same in nature. When are people going to realize that there is no such thing as evolution only enlightenment. We are apes. Apes with dominion and God's mind are born tyrants. Yep that's human.

[@eta_carithebrightlord3396]

A lot of women don't seem to like men either

[@Dee-cu8yr]

@@eta_carithebrightlord3396 that’s a natural response to not being liked Women were under Stockholm syndrome before Women are literally groomed to cater to men and believe in love from the time they walk and are given a kitchen set and baby dolls

[@Silversubs29078]

​@@eta_carithebrightlord3396 I don't blame them. They're not very likable lol

[@eta_carithebrightlord3396]

@@Dee-cu8yr Women are naturally built for caregiving and gathering, a lot of women genuinely like that kinda stuff. Believe it or not there's actually sexual dimorphism between men and women, physically and mentally that makes us inclined to different things.

[@MaggieTheCat01]

“Women have very little idea of how much men hate them.” Germaine Greer

[@annaattari2864]

Women are actually pretty much aware of that.

[@lunaloynaz-lopez2318]

@@annaattari2864 Honestly no, they really aren't. There are still too many women that think somebody that was raised to hate them at every turn of their life can fall in love with them. Most women are still in denial and would say I'm crazy for saying that men can't fall in love with them lol

[@catwhisperer1253]

​​@@Rapewomen-mt4ur Oh really?! "We"? What have you personally built? Women were not allowed by men to build things for centuries. And even when they broke the rules and did or made a scientific discovery, she was punished, not credited, and/or forgotten in history. Nowadays, it is more acceptable for women to be in the typical male-dominated fields, but they still often face some type of sexism and abuse. For example, women get r*ped and abused in the military, women are not respected and taken seriously in construction jobs at times (my female friend has a Bachelor's from Harvard and a Master's from Cornell in construction engineering and architecture and she tells me her experiences), and there was an engineer who sh*t and k*lled an entire college class of female engineering students because he could not find a job and he blamed women for it. So spare me with the "We build everything trope." 🙄 A physics professor on TikTok said that studies were done that prove men are no better at math and science than women. Society just lies about it.

[@aporue5893]

@@annaattari2864 with the ''manosphere'' it's obvious some really do hate women. Not all,of course. But it seems the incels are lurking a lot lately online.

[@soldatensieg]

​@@lunaloynaz-lopez2318 Because you are.

[@trivanalburris]

Yo love that you stitched this. Also im serverly confused by anyone whose seen your content would think you are gay. Its mind blowing to know how healthy masculinity is attacked

[@nesser5369]

Right?? So many peope call him "gay" and "soo feminine" and it's like no sweetie that's what healthy, comfortable, confident masculinity looks like

[@trivanalburris]

@@nesser5369 yes and also being balanced we carry both

[@Qwerty-jc3so]

They're the type of people who believe the "real" masculinity is toxic masculinity

[@sting0262]

​@@trivanalburris He speaks like his balls droped off

[@trivanalburris]

@@sting0262 do you have balls?

[@CarbonatedCondensation]

I love how toxic masculinity just circles around to make them sound gay, because they would actually hate that

[@soldatensieg]

"Toxic masculinity"

[@jenelle5331]

​@@soldatensiegYes. Specific ideas of masculinity that are toxic.

[@hoshicloverfield]

That term doesn't mean that all masculinity is toxic. Too many people like you go into defense mode because you don't know what it means. @soldatensieg

[@JuniperGal-ek2pu]

And plus they don’t realize that masculine gay men exist.

[@CarbonatedCondensation]

@@JuniperGal-ek2pu they’d probably combust if they realized that

[@LadyVineXIII]

The irony of these 'alpha males' feeling you have to hate women to be straight is not lost on me. Nor is the irony that by behaving in such a predatory fashion they are behaving the opposite of an alpha male. The number one job of an alpha male in any pack or herd is to take care of his pack or herd, which is exactly what you are doing by recognizing and addressing the difficulties women face.

[@kb-wu7ws]

The "difficulties" women face in one regard, are no different than the ones men face. They're all self imposed. I have no obligation to save anyone, particularly when it's self-destruction. Though, I do have a responsibility to contend with it, and call it for what it is.

[@LadyVineXIII]

@kb-wu7ws There are challenges unique to each and challenges that are shared. I was pointing out that if you take on the mantle of leadership, aka Alpha, there are certain duties of care that follow with it. If you don't want the burdens of leadership, then don't claim to be a leader. It really is that simple.

[@kb-wu7ws]

@@LadyVineXIII I absolutely agree. A quintessential part of leadership is setting boundaries. And that's probably one of the most missing features in modern relationships.

[@Snipergoat1]

We are not dogs, there are no alpha males. The concept of alpha males even as we understand it in wolves came from a flawed study of wolf that has several stressors on them meaning that their actions were a typical. Wolves in a more natural state with fewer constant stressors on them behave much more relaxed manner. Not that they don't take their choice of food or mates its that they are far more relaxed about it and less likely to punish minor transgressions from anyone including young males (i.e. potential future challengers.) In turn a dethroned alpha is not treated as harshly and often remains in the pack. Long digression but humans are quite different but even though they are often overstated we do share some properties with them (as do most social animals) The alpha /beta when applied to humans doesn't fit well and is most often used retroactively to justify some stupid thing or another. The Andrew Tates of this world and whoever this professor guys is are two sides of the same coin, both using simplistic and incorrect interpretations to either setup or tear down an image of masculinity that seems to mostly exist in their minds.

[@amw6846]

​@Snipergoat1 if you want some stuff on alpha males in primates, I'd like to suggest Franz De Waal's more recent work. There is such a thing, but it's not what the Andrew Tates of the world think it is.

[@EmbrysArt]

The amount of truth you speak is amazing I'm glad men like you still exist

[@eykyra]

I witnessed this the other day, I was in the comments of a video about consent and some guy left a comment engaging in conversation and another guy, out of the blue just replied "dude stop simping, these women don't know you". He just straight up assumed he was pretending to be interested in feminist discussion because that's what he does or would do. Which makes me think "how many men are doing that right now?"

[@fran791]

🤢🤢🤢

[@jayjoseph-r5t]

Cuz that’s true …men only need women for femininity ,sex and for having baby . Lot of men only like women for sex is because women behave masculine . Masculine women is like weak annoying men that men will not respect . women should know their main power is femininity .

[@fran791]

@@jayjoseph-r5t you wouldn't speak to a woman or on women's issues unless you are looking to fuck or to have a baby and other than that you are completely uninterested in women? This is what your comment sounds like

[@tfkdandsvkc]

Just look at manosphere and what they are teaching them how to treat men it's a fucking scary how they brainwash each other just disturbing

[@kellygroves5213]

It also tells us that they *do know* the kind of behavior that would entice us to sleep with them, but they refuse to behave that way because they would rather sex be coerced.

[@SimonKnight1023]

“Cheap”

[@Snipergoat1]

TLDR skip to the last paragraph. Nope, again you are over complicating the issue and placing your own biases. It's really much more simple. What you are talking about is slow and resource intensive with the failure rate leaving a guy being used by some chick who never cared for him beyond what he provided for her. Most guys have run into this kind of chick once or twice. One can either become embittered or change the rules. No that does not mean coercion. It means play the numbers and do not invest heavily in one. The basic idea is that if you ask 10 women "Do you want to fuck?" You will get slapped 9 times and laid once. That is an acceptable outcome. Well, if you are primarily concerned with getting laid that is. As for the acting the ways that will entice most women in the sack they will gladly be used, However it seems that many if not most guys have that one former girlfriend that just ripped them up and used them both emotionally and financially. No one wants to be that sucker again. So the guard goes up. He's only going to invest that in someone he thinks is a worthwhile prospect. Unfortunately it is very difficult to determine the "worth it" potential of someone. Complicating the fact is that neither young men or young women know exactly what they want or even what attracts them beyond a superficial level. And both receive a fuckton of bad information from everywhere that seems designed to keep trust between men and women low which helps neither, emotionally or physically. It exists mostly for various political reasons, not as in local or even national politics but in the more general sense of forming a power base. Grievance politics work, there does not even need any actual grievance. Just convince someone that they are aggrieved and viola, instant army to command (or bilk as the case may be). It takes advantage of that burned feeling that people get after a bad breakup and then tells them that it is not their fault, the fault was the other persons , then goes on with and it is a problem that is endemic to that entire gender. Of course this is amplified by the very real differences in genders. This can spiral out in outrageous exaggerations very easily. For God sake, you just said that men would prefer to bed a woman by force than by charm. What the fuck is wrong with you? What the fuck is wrong with me trying to break this all down to someone who thinks that is a reasonable statement? Might as well piss into the wind for all the good it will do. Well enjoy your cool aide, one day when you discover that it tastes of lonesomeness and cat pee then maybe you might want to question some foundational assumptions you are making to come to that conclusion.

[@Ell-te7ix]

I see your point but I disagree with you. Yes, men and women have historically been venus and mars. But the biggest shift I have noticed is how the Internet has made them drift even further apart. The small friend group girl chat suddenly turned global. It's like the fog just lifted from the eyes of a whole generation of women. We share notes, stories, advice etc. Everything we historically did in groups but on a massive scale. When women talk our primary focus is on avoiding "bad men". When we talk it's about improving ourselves, our Knowledge on mental health, toxic traits, relationship dynamics, standards, boundaries and expectations. Also, women are typically not driven by sex so we don't CRAVE men as sexual objects. We crave deep soul connections and meaningful lasting relationships. This creator advocates for women, healthy relationships etc etc and his main audience is women. A large proportion of his haters are men. Time and time again, I see the self help, relationship channels and the main consumers are women. If the speaker is a woman, the haters will say she is a man hating feminists who will die alone with cats. If he is a man he is a simp or gay or brainwashed. Again most of the hate is from men. So you go over to the relationship advice channels who are majority men consumers and there are similarities in men sharing horror stories about their experiences with women, but the biggest difference I notice is they focus on "rizz" or to artificially attract women based on money, muscle and lamborghinis. And in many cases it's not advocating for one woman, it's advocating for many women at one time. Most male channels are anti marriage, don't tell men what a healthy relationship looks like but will tell men what a non submissive, non sexual, non subservient woman looks like. They focus on rating women. Calling the women who display the same behaviour they are preaching to men all sorts of names. All this to say, the male focus seems very unhealthy and far more removed from reality and less likely to yeild success than the female focus. See men act like being burned by a woman means playing a numbers game, strategy, settling for the one that didn't slap you. Wasting YEARS of her life when deep down you know she ain't the one, but reaping the benefits of a woman. See when women get burned by a man, we teach ourselves what love bombing looks like, what the subtle signs of abuse look like, we actively, decrease likelihood of falling for it by going to therapy and working on ourselves, we try to find happiness outside of a man, we raise our standards, we hold men accountable to actions and not just words, we realise sex doesn't equate to them loving us so we stop having sex with them. We actively increase our emotional intelligence. If men stopped hating on other men who took the same approach as women and worked on themselves, more men would be successful. I promise you the average man is so emotionally constipated that they resort to treating women like objects cos that's their capacity. If I became a man tomorrow, there is no woman I couldn't get cos men seem to not understand what women are at their core, how they operate. You can't win over a group of people you don't understand one bit. I am sooooooo confident that having even basic emotional intelligence would get me almost any girl I wanted and not games or settling for the one that didn't slap me.

[@Ell-te7ix]

The biggest irony is this man gets it. He could literally have his pick of women. This creator clearly shows he has done and continues to do the work and though we all know he is married and objectively I probably would never have noticed him in the street but hearing him speak like an emotionally intelligent man is so rare that it's high key extremely sexy. Like I'm a freaking demisexual and damn near asexual with 99.9999% of men I have ever met in my life but if this creator was single, he would literally have a queue of women lined up outside his house cos that's how freaking RARE it is. Even I would happily line up to be a pick me for this man.

[@kellygroves5213]

@@Snipergoat1 ......I didn't read any of that. Nobody did......

[@Tessa_Ru]

So important to be said. And tbh some of the comments in here are just so sad. I remember trying to date in my 20's. I tried to forget most of it, but there were stalkers, gropers, men 20+ yrs older than me that got interested because I was petite and looked underage. It's disgusting. Nothing ever made it past a basic coffee date because people were so unhinged. I don't date now. Haven't since the last stalker followed me home, and I realized I was actively lowering my life expectancy by continuing. These guys want us all to think that we're high maintenance b-tches, but I don't think refusing to accept less than basic human decency is too much to ask.

[@KLK957]

Totally agree.

[@Big_Red_Dork]

So, you're just going to be single forever? There are other ways to meet good men other than the dating apps too.

[@alexej8175]

​@@Big_Red_Dork imagine thinking "actively lowering your own life expectancy" is better than just being single forever.

[@Tessa_Ru]

@@Big_Red_Dork honestly? Yes. Dating apps weren't really a thing back then, I don't imagine they've improved the dating scene much lol. I help my brother look after his boys and just, try to be thankful for the simple life, instead of being disappointed with what i don't have.

[@Big_Red_Dork]

@@Tessa_Ru I actually do think that the dating apps have made a significant difference for the better, on net. It's a lot easier now to find someone with similar interests and values. My wife told me she had the best experience by just not having any kind of pictures on her profile, and then she contacted the men who she found interesting (like myself, lol). I say all that to just mention that not all men are as trashy and disrespectful as the slobs and losers that you unfortunately encountered in your dating life. Anyways, totally respect that you've chosen a single life for yourself. That's your business of course, and if you don't think you're missing out on anything and are satisfied with that, who am I, or anyone else, to contradict you? I know other people who are aromantic/asexual and they're living their best lives.

[@brendaburgner-williams8515]

And this is one of many reasons why I am still not dating after my husband passed away 5 years ago. Men of today scare the crap out of me!

[@cheesecakeisgross4645]

Because they're not strong men, they're weak men. Weak men are the dangerous ones.

[@saltedcaramel7602]

Same. I've never dated or married and I'm not sure I ever will. The men of today are awful.

[@springerworks002]

​@@saltedcaramel7602 It's a 2 way street honestly. Look into some of the other people's experiences.

[@saltedcaramel7602]

@springerworks002 True, but when you hear about more devastating experiences, it's typically caused by men.

[@fran791]

​@@saltedcaramel7602 they have always been honey

[@arnekgriswold9059]

I was talking about this with my best friend months ago. We realized that there were so many men who were straight, as in they wanted the sex, but were absolutely REVOLTED by women. That makes the "sex" they have bestiality, but this doesn't seem to bother them. It's baffling.

[@myman8336]

Is a woman gonna buy him a car cause I've never seen it..? Or maybe you think the woman giving him a hug and holding his hand in public is value enough for the relationship.. Maybe he'll take you on shopping spree as thank you for existing lol..

[@bmoe4609]

I woudnt see it as bestiality cuz isnt that with an animal, thats a loooooong shot. At most i see it as society and religious pressure. They believe they have to be with women and are having alot of expectations on them, that they harbor this hatred also. I feel if they could be themselves with out all that mess stuff would be different. Im a woman a femenist and i know shit is hard af for us in some ways id say worst than men at times. But i cant ignore the blatent eyesore they go thru and are raised up in that is also to blame. I want change for them especially with the toxic masculinity bull crap, men need to be seen too even when some cant see it themselves. The next convo should be on how lots of women dont like men either and on their expectations for them as well thats toxic n bad. Its taught on from young. This "men" and "women" what that is and what they should be and act...

[@craffte]

​@@bmoe4609Damn. So well said.

[@andrewgreeb916]

Once burned twice shy, there are plenty of great guys out there, but they tested the waters and decided it's not worth the effort, browse enough horror stories online and you'll stop trying.

[@thecaprikid1329]

​@@myman8336 you're projecting, Sir Cel. Don't go ER on us now

[@withyoctopus]

My dad taught be the same. I had that 80ies upbringing in which they told us girls to look out for ourselves because boys and men will take and then leave when you've got nothing more to give. It has been the best advice anybody has ever given me. I've dodged all the bullets because of this.

[@kikivon3501]

I worked with this guy when I was in college, he was a fairly good looking guy, super sweet, super funny. He was a bit younger than me so I viewed him more like a little brother. We hung in the same general crowd. Anyhow, he genuinely liked women, he hung out with us all the time, and yes one of his best friends was a gay guy. This guy hooked up with more of my friends, he didn’t talk about it, didn’t go brag and talk smack to the other guys our group about his hook ups. One night a group of us were all out at a bar and a couple of the other guys were saying “ hey I think Matt is gay, he’s always hanging with the girls and one of his close friends is gay, we never hear about him hooking up…… etc etc etc” I finally pipe up and say. “ you guys are fools, Matt hooks up ALL the time!!!! He gets more bumper than a body shop, he just doesn’t brag to you jerk-offs!!! He really likes women, why do you think he’s so successful…..? Because he is secure and doesn’t feel the need to brag about it!!!!!!

[@BlueRoseFaery]

Reminds me of my boyfriend, he’s got a pretty high number & you wouldn’t really think it to meet him, but he’s just a genuinely good person & views women as people, & that’s really the “secret” treat people with respect. And he gets accused of being gay by men who don’t know him at all.

[@SimonKnight1023]

So he acts nice to use women for sex and never commits to one?

[@Sigart]

​@@SimonKnight1023 That's only a problem if he pretends like he's not there for a hook-up, though. the way this person was describing it, that wasn't it.

[@MichaelHeinen-qk6gg]

​​@@BlueRoseFaeryThose men accusing your boyfriend of being gay are just "projecting from their own closets" because only men on the DOWN LOW do that kind of stuff not true staight men.

[@T1l1422]

It’s such a self report from guys like that. They think it’s the normative opinion and that people are hiding their anti women sentiment to gain something. Like no bro you are just a weirdo.

[@marysueechols2845]

💯🎯🌟🏆

[@wendyporter1093]

My 3 sons get accused of the same things you do, so I guess that’s what happens when intelligent men appreciate women! 😏😏❤️👍🏻

[@SusannahPerri]

You are SO correct! The majority of straight men don’t value or respect women, but they sure TOLD me they did before I became a senior citizen! Now I’m just invisible. That’s OK, now I can just be myself without getting rated from 1-10 because they don’t see me, so I can live in peace.

[@Legend-io4pz]

A straight guy who really does like women, doesn’t matter if he’s good looking, rich or poor, tall or short, nothing. He’ll have all the women he needs these are not men but i do hope they heal from whatever trauma they went through.

[@janisgay5507]

I appreciate how you make the distinction between men liking or not liking women. You are spot on. Men who like women are the sexiest, obviously, and I am not talking about the flirts and their ilk. The worst are the guys who call another guy a girl due to the way they perform in sports. PE> teachers are the worst. I love confronting guys who do that.

[@Schizniit]

I'm straight n I've been saying the same damn thing like they only like the idea of a "perfect" woman. Perfect meaning they have so little self respect that they'll do anything and everything they want.

[@matilda4406]

yes, it's weird and sad to see

[@fran791]

They want someone with no needs, wants or individuality who will always say yes to them and inflate their ego. One day AI will be advanced enough for these losers to marry robots hopefully

[@QueerCapricorn6572]

They disdain also these women and call them sluts.

[@tfkdandsvkc]

They still have this strange disdain and despise them

[@depressed_weighted_B1anket]

Bruhhhh I'm so tired of men and women putting down women

[@ghostly_elly]

I dont like how some people treat each other like objects, its horrible

[@csepke2]

They are lost in their “logic”. 😂

[@lovelydeath04]

Or they just called you out...😒

[@Nerobyrne]

I'm confused, who are you talking about?

[@Jarimir]

​@@lovelydeath04 yes, we are all secretly gay and are more afraid to come out than you are to admit you're wrong. 😂🙄

[@csepke2]

@@lovelydeath04 Called me out on what? Lol

[@csepke2]

@@Nerobyrne The same people he is talking about. What’s the confusing part?

[@Drekromancer]

Thank you for saying this, king. 👑 The amount of straight men who speak out of a shocking lack of respect for both women and themselves is honestly tragic. I appreciate anyone who's able to cut through those delusions and provide space for genuine empathy.

[@fran791]

You're a king 👑🦁 real men respect and protect women

[@andrewgreeb916]

Genuine empathy? Dismissing the standard method of operation as wrong. Most men don't want to bother with the new American woman, which leaves the women with the bad actors, do not conflate all men with the bad actors.

[@Xara_K1]

Straight men are raised to love and admire other men and their masculinity, but are sexually attracted to us. That's why guys who come across a nice can only be seen as LGBT, or disingenuous. It's also why guys who are very boyish and engage in male-centred behaviour like being sporty and outdoorsy, but are never seen around multiple women, are also deemed LGBT by these guys. Toxic masculinity exists in such a rigid and oppressive mindset that we literally hear more about gay guys and gay behaviour, from supposedly straight guys, than from anyone else, including the LGBT community

[@hyun5985]

"Straight men are raised to love and admire other men and their masculinity" So from today I am a gay or a woman😂

[@OsirusHandle]

these are just bad takes lol As if women arent also raised to like things other women "are supposed to" like? Or gays or trans people arent conditioned by their group to like the things their group likes?

[@countesscosmic405]

💯

[@MM-we4no]

@@hyun5985 love ≠ sexual attraction. A man loving another man doesn’t make him gay unless he’s sexually attracted to him But you’re so loud and dumb all over the comments 🤡

[@hyun5985]

@@MM-we4no Well that's also a stupid argument. There are men who love women. done.

[@susanleehall9712]

I’ve been saying this for 40 years. A str8 guy who really *does* like women, doesn’t matter if he’s good looking, rich or poor, tall or short, nothing. He’ll have all the women he needs, because we KNOW who likes us.

[@leilameow9582]

I appreciate this comment but I've witnessed in real life that a lot of times this isn't the case. A lot of times especially for young women, they will go for men's looks, popularity, and status even if they are jerks. A lot of genuinely kind men have trouble with women because of height, poor social skills or not being popular. Simply being kind to women is not enough to attract women. A lot of attractive and charismatic men who are not good people are able to sleep with many women. As much as we should be encouraging men to act better, we should also be teaching women esp young women to avoid these kinds of men.

[@catmq2729]

Wow, the comment sections for this channel are some of the most kind and respectful I have ever seen on KZbin. Good job everyone!

[@fuckoff_loserr]

INDEED!

[@LilChuunosuke]

Its so true, sadly. I'm happily taken right now, but I've all but sworn off dating men because every man who has actively displayed attraction towards me has seen me as a prize to be won. And if men like you refuse to mold to their toxic and sexist way of thinking, it'll be harder for them to find lasting relationships if any relationships at all. Of course, I know there are straight men who are capable of respecting women and their boundaries. I'm friends with some of them. One of them used to have a crush on me & refrained from telling me because I was not in a good place in my life & a relationship could potentially endanger both of us. And he actually gets emasculated by his own family and his girlfriend's family for being gentle, polite, and respecting women's boundaries. They see decent srraight men as a THREAT.

[@lizicadumitru9683]

A threat?! Geez people are fookin' stoopid...

[@trixunofficial]

Of course, because then, people start expecting THEM (toxic men) to act like decent human beings 😱😂

[@lizicadumitru9683]

@@trixunofficial shit...smh🙄

[@mimosakura795]

I've had a guy say to me when I told him I wasn't interested because he was over religious "I could have any woman I want, beautiful Model like, and your pretty but you can't get a guy quickly, and when you run out of options you'll come back to me" like that was the most horrendous thing some one ever said to me. After that I started dating and liking women more, thank god I'm Bi, men are just horrible.

[@LilChuunosuke]

@@mimosakura795 i once had a dude say he didnt mind that i was asexual as long as he got a chance to be with me. And after i told him that i wasnt interested in sex, nor in dating, but we could try to be closer friends, he tried to kiss me on the lips, then put his head on my thigh & started stroking my legs. It literally shocked me so much that I had an anxiety attack. That was the moment that put me off of dating men, probably entirely. I can only see myself dating a dude now if he was queer and autistic.

[@Lillypop93]

I fell for two closeted gay guys before I found a straight guy that I liked then he turned out bi 🤣🤣 too many straight men are ahs

[@marzipanmango]

I feel you, I've been interested in multiple gay guys too :P Back in highschool before I had a gaydar. But for the last one, if he's bi and interested in you there should be no problem! My boyfriend's best friend is bi, and he dated both genders but ended up falling in love with a woman, and married her :)

[@ST-yc7uj]

@@marzipanmango and your bf is?

[@مواضيع-ظ7ز]

​@@marzipanmango

[@JoeMama-1diot]

Me too, Lilly pop, literally every single guy I’ve had a crush on has been gay, even from elementary school..

[@Nakia11798]

Similar here. I liked 2 different queer men and my current bf is barely straight.

[@Dolly-bc1dy]

Feminist men are so god damn attractive

[@jarastar6499]

Facts.

[@evanthemightiest218]

on God on god

[@kimstrandberg9529]

This guy though! So secure and so handsome. ♥️

[@shawn-oldaccountl6748]

SERIOUSLY!!! That whole alpha male bit is something pushed on men BY OTHER MEN, women don’t want that, they want to be treated like a human being

[@Pineapple_Kween]

Fr! Pretty sure the only ppl those ‘alpha male bros’ will attract are other men like them, lmao. Maybe that’s their goal though ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@cactuscolby]

Thank you for being the positive male influence in my life that I've always needed!

[@ElleS572]

I second that 🥰❤️

[@PZLovell]

I had a conversation with my grandma decades ago. She said that the secret to being a ladies man is to be a man who genuinely loves women. Not "be straight", love women. There is a distinction there. I've generally found there was wisdom in that, observed a lot of straight men who don't actually like women.

[@chickenanon]

Not to be that person but straight up? This. I've actually had this like--kind of awful convo with other lesbians where we're just like, I'm never sure if i would've been 100% gay if i hadn't personally known so many awful guys

[@wareforcoin5780]

I _do_ tell those guys "not all women" actually. Any time I see it. They're just so wrapped up in their misery, the clear logic that half the population of the planet aren't all going to be the same just sort of bounces off them. I can think of ONE time where it had any effect, and that was only because I was speaking face to face with him literally being a woman unlike the women he was trying to be with. (Not sure how much he really absorbed though, I have a boyfriend so I think he probably just wrote me out of the "woman" identity in his brain.)

[@Nerobyrne]

Yes all women ... deserve to not be stalked for trying to watch a movie 😡 Toxic masculinity is such a massive problem, and it's being taught by men to other men. We're taught to see women as trophies instead of people. I don't know where that started, but I sure hope we can stop it. That just doesn't help anyone.

[@Nerobyrne]

@kshamwhizzle can you show me one person who complained about "reverse racism"? I only ever hear people call things "racism" when they're taking about discrimination based on race, any race.

[@hadley_mcdonald]

I saw a post saying "Next time a guy says 'not all men' make him play a game called 'not all snakes' where he sits in a pit of snakes, but not all of them are venomous!"

[@Nerobyrne]

@kshamwhizzle I'm surprised because it would require them to acknowledge the academic definition of racism (prejudice and power), but at the same time think that fighting against it is bad 🤨 Not that I'm calling you a liar, it's just baffling anyone could be that educated but also stupid at the same time

[@read1166]

Thank you for standing up for us❤.

[@keidwyn]

in the last 7. day I have been sexually assaulted whilst walking my dog and ,stood over by a man whilst walking my dogs just want to say thank you for being one of the good guys ,Thankyou so much

[@eta_carithebrightlord3396]

Sorry that happened to you, report it to the authorities if you haven't already

[@shawnawagner8879]

I keep hearing that Straight men don’t like women. That they save their best emotional selves for their guy friends. I hate to say it, but I think you’re right about a lot of them. Maybe most of them.

[@eta_carithebrightlord3396]

When you're vulnerable with a woman they use it against you

[@lisahovet2494]

Thank you! That's it exactly! And most straight men don't like women because we ask them to treat us as people, as equals, which threatens them. My father was a great defender of women, but he died almost 35 years ago....it's so nice to hear another man speaking these truths. You give me hope for the world.

[@T13GUY]

That sounds badass *'LIsa Hovet's father, great defender of women!'*

[@NiorAmbientForest]

As a woman I've been saying the exact same thing. And I get accused of being a Feminist al the time by men immediately.

[@Legend-io4pz]

A heterosexual guy who genuinely enjoys women doesn't care if he's attractive, wealthy, tall, or short. He'll have all the ladies he needs. These aren't men, but I hope they recover from whatever trauma they had. Remember there are nice men out there; do not give up hope.

[@JuniperGal-ek2pu]

Accused of being a feminist?

[@donnakawana]

Yes, your on point.... My husband was mainly to the point pink wasn't allowed on my boys clothes.. cuz gay color.. no dolls male or female cuz gay, an the no list was looooong... He ended up gay!!

[@ak5659]

I know it's not a new thought but the straighter a guy actually is, the less he's concerned about anything 'gay' (real or perceived) and the less concerned he is about anyone thinking he's gay.

[@myman8336]

Maybe he hates himself, who knows lol.. No one ever asks Men how they feel

[@jkv5332]

​@@myman8336 then ask your men. you men are the ones to call other men gay when they express their emotions. the men love to ridicule and insult women for being emotional. it's your problem. and why are you asking women to ask men about their feelings? have the men ever taken women's words seriously? it's funny how you're trying to play the victim card.

[@myman8336]

@@jkv5332 It's funny that I'm not allowed to lol 😂 Oh the Humanity, Men have feelings too But I don't want the card anyway, I can fix my own problems like our fathers taught us to.. Whining about it only encourages you to whine even more about other things that aren't even as serious..

[@bmoe4609]

​@@myman8336 thats also toxic u should be able to vent. I hate how yall are brought up with toxic thinking. On the comment u said previously i do feel he did hate himself, saw it inferior n was taught it. Im happy he at a point he can love himself now. Thought how she felt was valid too cuz when with her he showed alot of unhealthy visions, its no exscuse for it. But 9/10 it came from him trying so hard to be what he wasnt, i know it best myself being an ex christian woman. I hope we all can grow in time n raise any future generations better and as people, not by the gender they should emmulate. Just people who are theirselves, people seem to be scared of true individuality.

[@luckyDancer100]

Where can I find a guy as good and kindhearted as this man?

[@eta_carithebrightlord3396]

You probably rejected em in the past

[@tomboyishtrainwreck]

"You're too good at getting women to sleep with you. How dare they like you more than me? You must be gay."

[@eyan12]

They want women as a sort of trophy they can show off to be “superior” over other men but they don’t actually love the trophy itself they love the fame it gives them

[@Filthy_Larry]

Well yea. Why else would we talk to women if we didn’t want someone to poke, show off, or abuse?

[@joisspeaking]

The manosphere dudes are weak AF. They just keep saying how alpha they are. Hysterical.

[@joisspeaking]

@random name here Nah, Brad. You don't get it.

[@SIS3W3N]

@random name here What?

[@Nerobyrne]

It's been said many times, "the title you give yourself is meaningless."

[@joisspeaking]

@@Nerobyrne Precisely

[@Alexandraadftxr7052]

They base they entair personality on an old outdated study about the social hiearhy of wolf pack. They are one of the most delusional people.

[@jamesgraydon556]

As a teenage boy on KZbin no matter how many videos I dislike or accounts I tell KZbin to stop recommending me my shorts recommandions are still filled with misogynistic and transphobic and homophobic videos so thank you for being a guiding light in this ocean of hate

[@CloutmasterPhluphyy]

Ikr? I just wanna look at semi funny memes, cartoon characters rapping, and short form skits 😭

[@jgarcia4721]

I'm an adult woman but my subscriptions include a lot of channels my son subbed to a few years ago. I get a lot of alt right and misogynist shorts too. Good for you on recognizing how they're trying to socially engineer your attitudes 💪

[@the.g9818]

I heard something on a short vid wherein the person said "men are sexually attracted to women but emotionally attracted to men" for me that kind've sums up the agenda or perspective that modern men have towards women these days

[@annmariebusu9924]

I remember wondering as a teenager why more guys weren’t gay because they just didn’t seem to like girls as persons🫣. Then the gay revolution happened 😂.

[@thedativecase9733]

Oddly enough gay men can be good friends with a woman because they aren't looking to get sex out of her. My darling friend Chris was one, (he sadly died last year far too young.) However there are gay men who hate women too.

[@cammokyle]

Same lmao so many male friends MUCH prefer to be hanging out with other male friends. And they will, repeatedly, by choice do that, until a girl appears that's interested in them and offers sex. Then you don't see your friend ever again lmao Really does seem like a lot of guys desire sex but would choose hanging out with the boys 9.9 times out of 10 if offered a choice. It's bizarre as a gay leaning bi dude that I typically hang out with the gender I'm attacted to most, men, whereas straight guys ALSO do this. So do you even like women? It's kinda wild to think about

[@sarahheri7027]

i appreciate the two of you so much!!! there still are nice men out there that really like women and treat them with respect, but honestly... they are getting rare...

[@Legend-io4pz]

A heterosexual guy who genuinely enjoys women doesn't care if he's attractive, wealthy, tall, or short. He'll have all the ladies he needs. These aren't men, but I hope they recover from whatever trauma they had. Remember there are nice men out there; do not give up hope.

[@carmenhunter4380]

I remember reading years ago that a study was done on how men view women. It came out that a very high number view women as a collection of parts, not as a whole individual.

[@ilikepancakes2368]

And women see men as wallets and disposable so the field is even.

[@darabounds6671]

Idk if this is weird for me to say but I can't hold it in my brain anymore. You are a lot like my Dad but more empathetic and approachable. I kinda see you as what my dad could have been without the generational trauma. I love my dad. I wish he could be more open like you are. I think he could be happier if he was able to, if he could allow himself to.

[@cactustree505]

@dara bounds Start forwarding posts of Speech Prof to your dad.

[@lapislazarus8899]

it's so wonderful how many people are saying that they wish this fellow had been their dad ❤️

[@sobosoup]

“You hate women, I love men. We’re not the same” - Sun Tzu

[@Lucia-du5to]

"Wait you actually like women bruh? Haha, that's gay." -'straight guy' Logic. 🤦‍♀️

[@Legend-io4pz]

A heterosexual guy who genuinely enjoys women doesn't care if he's attractive, wealthy, tall, or short. He'll have all the ladies he needs. These aren't men, but I hope they recover from whatever trauma they had.

[@kukuku5405]

I pray that there will be more fathers like you. You give me hope for the next generations.