Streamer Design: Episode 1 "The Idea"

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[@dougmccoy7038]

This is a great idea! Thanks for taking us along for the ride.

[@flyfishingtheozarks]

Thanks for coming along. 🙂

[@davehall2160]

This is going to be great Thank you, Brian

[@flyfishingtheozarks]

Thanks for watching!

[@charlieboutin3341]

Really enjoy this! I sit down to tie a bass fly and sometimes have NO idea where it’s going to go. I usually try to plan if it’s a Shad or Bluegill type color for the place I’ll fish, and then go for size of fly compared to size of bass I’m targeting. My most satisfying has been when I see a big bass chasing bait..go home tie something similar and return and catch a nice one 🙂 Mission accomplished! Mine aren’t complicated, but want it “swimmy” as you say..and somewhat realistic outline or shape. Sorry so long. REALLY appreciate your work and instructions & information Brian! Looking forward to more! 👍👍👌🎣

[@flyfishingtheozarks]

Thanks, man! I appreciate you watching!

[@martinrosenmill3390]

Use the Ahrex hook, it won’t bend, I promise. Use a 15 or 20mm shank. That’s been done and tested by Gunnar. Works like a charm. I’ve tied à LOT of flies on the GB swimbait hook. It is a great hook. And with a shank you’ll compensate for the heavy keel that comes from the huge keeling weight from the back portion of the hook. Great idea Brian!😊

[@flyfishingtheozarks]

Thanks! I had seen Gunnar with mono extended bodies, but not a shank.....I need to shoot him a message!

[@kevinburns7158]

Not sure if anyone mentioned it yet, but give the new Ahrex SA 258 a try. Super stout hook, nice hook gap, etc. I've been digging them.

[@flyfishingtheozarks]

I have seen them. They aren't quite "texas rig style" enough to do what I hope to do with this fly though. Thanks for the recommendation though! Keep them coming!

[@rockytophearts2732]

Truley enjoy your work!! Thanks for sharing it!

[@flyfishingtheozarks]

Thanks so much!

[@daisywoodbury1474]

Coolest guy I know!!! So excited!!

[@dixonmak]

Sounds like a walk in the park!!! What can go wrong! 😁

[@cgcalhoun1936]

Looking forward to seeing this one!!

[@Will33211]

Love this series idea! When is the next episode set to come out?

[@flyfishingtheozarks]

Thanks! I try to put new videos out on Mondays as much as possible.

[@FrogPond253]

New to your channel, great stuff!!! looking forward to this series.. FUN!

[@flyfishingtheozarks]

Thanks! It's definitely going to be a fun process.

[@mistymountainsguidingservi9173]

I'm really excited to see where you take this! I've been working with the PR378's for a few years now and may be able to share a little insight. While a little bit thinner than most like, the PR378 has never failed me yet, nor have I ever had to re bend one. That being said, I totally see your hesitancy. The 378 was designed with the idea of using mono straights to balance the fly over the hook. Let's say you tie a deceiver on one at normal proportions but only use the hook space that is provided. What will happen a lot of times is the fly will ride horizontally, but nose up. You want it horizontal & straight. The mono straight will provide more bulk through the hook profile that will bring the weight of the front portion down, (especially with a foam head) and will give you a better overall swim. In addition to all of that, the mono will make the fly quite a bit more weedless. Especially if you start building out slider rigs on them. Also, while it sounds counter productive considering your head material, adding a little bit of weight through the tying platform may help the the nose up problem too. If you end up having it.. Then we get to the middle & back portions. The 378 has a flat bottom that is great for adding rattles & weight. Just like the MFC hook, it's easy to add weight, but not a rattle. Also, while I think it will PROBABLY be ok, the hook gap on the MFC is wayyyyy smaller. Too much of "the right amount of bulk" will make hookups harder to get. I do think it will be pretty weedless for that reason though! You may end up having to downsize proportions of materials by more than normal for a more true "swim". The flies that I see Kelly tie with the MFC are fairly sparse, with very flowy materials like marabou that won't mess with keeling too much. Start adding boisterous materials like foam & bucktail and I fear that you may have some issues. Besides that, I think it's a killer hook, and I like the horizontal eye quite a lot. Looking forward to the journey Brian!

[@flyfishingtheozarks]

Thanks for the insight! I totally agree, part of my hesitancy with the 378 is I have always felt like it is so over-sized per hook size that I have trouble with proportions.......which is why the mono-extended bodies work SO well on them---it all makes sense now!

[@michealmedrano308]

This is great! Always enjoy your content really looking forward to this!

[@flyfishingtheozarks]

Thanks!

[@evanhogan9219]

Great idea for a series! Any chance you can walk us through how to submit entries into MFC for review?

[@flyfishingtheozarks]

Hadn't thought about that. I may have to see if I can get them to help me out for a video.

[@T.N.TFly.company]

This is going to be awesome, can’t wait for the next episode!

[@flyfishingtheozarks]

Thanks! Stay tuned!

[@brianmoeller6839]

The down shafts will probably hold your weight. You could wrap it with something red to portray gills

[@flyfishingtheozarks]

I am thinking about adding a gill flare on the Shad colorway!

[@thedesoletone]

Instantly, when you said covering the weight... my mind went to diamond braid

[@flyfishingtheozarks]

That's another material on my radar!

[@mikehester4163]

Dude- this will be so helpful. I started drawing step by step and helps me. I can run off the freestyle track so easily and end up with gob of poo on a hook.

[@flyfishingtheozarks]

😂

[@edpeters6903]

I’m looking forward to following this process.

[@flyfishingtheozarks]

Thanks! I am too!

[@paulbridgers3820]

This is going to be a cool series. A great idea. Thanks for doing this. Really fun.

[@flyfishingtheozarks]

Thanks, Paul! I appreciate it!

[@dandow6836]

Hell yea! So ready for this, Brian. What an awesome idea.

[@flyfishingtheozarks]

Thanks, it's something I am already having fun with.

[@billkeenum1303]

What a great series!!! This will be so educational in sooooo many ways. This is one of your best ideas since I've been following you. The only thing you could do to top this is to drop the entire series so I could binge watch the whole thing. Awesome... just awesome!!!

[@flyfishingtheozarks]

Thanks so much!!

[@JohnD.1969]

Excellent idea. Can't wait for the next vid.

[@flyfishingtheozarks]

Thanks!

[@jimcastellanos7983]

I can't wait for this series! It's about time we see someone's creative process in real-time.

[@flyfishingtheozarks]

I'm excited to bring it to you!

[@barnman73]

Now we are talking! I feel like we may need lab coats. Very excited for you.

[@flyfishingtheozarks]

🤓👨‍🔬🔬

[@keithr4224]

Knuckle Hood? What ? Hahahahaha

[@flyfishingtheozarks]

😂😂😆

[@whiskeydan]

Gunner Brammer has some good videos where he walks through some elements of how he designs and builds his pike and musky flies. I really like those videos, but don't tie or fish much for pike or musky. This series is going to be awesome becase I feel like this would be something I would tie and actually fish quite a bit. Anyway, he has some videos on how he extends the bodies on his flies with shanks and mono straights that might be helpful. Looking forward to the rest of the series 👍👍.

[@martinrosenmill3390]

My friend, the concept Gunnar demonstrates you can apply to any fly. It’s universal. Just because he is tying a muskyfly doesn’t mean you have to. Just use the info and apply to your needs. Tight lines😊

[@flyfishingtheozarks]

I have definitely seen Gunnar's Mono Straights....what I am wanting to do is have a shank that isn't rigid (the mono straights just extend the portion of the hook that help build the fly.) I want the shank for extra movement of the materials attached to the shank---almost like a tiny articulation.

[@andrewcherry5696]

This is awesome. Can’t wait to see how it evolves!

[@flyfishingtheozarks]

Same here! 🙂

[@coreystoner4129]

Designing a fly is a whole different headache to do. Sone of my own patterns came from fishing other patterns and borrowing ideas from those patterns and mixing them together. Usually I have something in my mind that I want it to look like this or do that motion. Takes usually a few dozen attempts before I get it right except for my cracked craw jig. It was a one and don’t and this sucker is deadly and very simple to tie

[@flyfishingtheozarks]

It's definitely a fun process!

[@coreystoner4129]

@@flyfishingtheozarks it can be fun and irritating at the same time. I got one that I’m going to have to tweak a bit to push the water the way I want it but so fair it looks deadly and the prototypes have been fishing well

[@johnnylightning1491]

Brian, this will be a journey, and it's right on time, at least the beginning. I'm going to Lake Okeechobee for the month of February and I have an idea for a fly I want to tie to imitate a golden shiner. We'll see how it turns out but you just made me think I might need to change my hook because of all of the weeds in the lake. We'll see. Keep the good stuff coming.

[@flyfishingtheozarks]

Very cool!

[@johnnylightning1491]

@@flyfishingtheozarks come on down the lake is full of fish from what I hear.

[@DriftingFlyFisherman]

SF blend material for your bulk? I been using in my pike flies and it’s swimmy hahaha

[@DriftingFlyFisherman]

Also I’ve following your channel for 14 year crazy I like this idea of yours awesome

[@flyfishingtheozarks]

SF Blend is definitely on my radar!

[@toddarnold9994]

You might look at the new Ahrex bend back hooks. Another similar to what your looking for. Stronger feeling than the 378 but still probably limited with hook gap.

[@victorvela6204]

Can’t wait to start the sketch

[@flyfishingtheozarks]

You may take that back when you see my artistry skills.😬

[@markhammer1289]

So looking forward to it

[@flyfishingtheozarks]

Thanks!!

[@edwardmlotkiewicz2343]

This will be an interesting series and process. Looking forward to seeing you develop a new pattern.

[@flyfishingtheozarks]

Thanks!!

[@kokid8311]

Great idea for this video series. I can't wait to see your process for designing a new fly. The fly sounds killer and I will be looking forward to seeing the final product.

[@flyfishingtheozarks]

Thanks, this will be a cool process.

[@Bio-Bridge]

U defo right wen u say that never see no design sides love to see more

[@deankrueger7178]

Finally, there are a few others but they already have an idea. Will you be taking suggestions as well? Really looking forward to this series!

[@flyfishingtheozarks]

I am open to anything, for sure!

[@deankrueger7178]

@@flyfishingtheozarks just thinking maybe a small mono extension on a belly bumper hook? I don't think I've seen anyone try it. Maybe I'll try as I follow along! Killer idea for a video!

[@RadimKapica]

Nice video ! Good quality of speech, you are an inspiration for me !

[@flyfishingtheozarks]

I appreciate that!

[@fisher-of-men1547]

Designing flies is truly an art form & many times very, very challenging. As far as weight goes, why not add a nice sized metal bead lashed in the middle (keel )area of the bottom portion of the hook you picked out to use ? I've used this method for many of my flies. The materials tied in & around the bead cover it up & the fly drops slowly in the water column. A small conehead might work, if more weight is desired. A regular conehead fly for me is like fly fishing with a Bass jig. No fish species I know, drops vertically in the water column like a jig does. Right, or wrong ? I'm really looking forward to see this development process. David Fisher-of-Men Fly Tying Ada, MI

[@flyfishingtheozarks]

Hey David! I agree, a wounded baitfish usually sinks SUPER slow with a twitch......if you ask me, a fly that jigs really hard catches little rainbows well---and I'm not shooting for little rainbows. 😉

[@MountainMomma1167]

What’s the best thread to use when you’re Spinning bucktail, I can’t seem to get it to flare right or it’s not good bucktail

[@flyfishingtheozarks]

I am a fan of 210 Ultra Thread. But it could be the part of the bucktail you are trying to use. If you are trying to get hair from the tip of the bucktail to flair a lot.....it's probably not going to happen. Check out this video----it should help you out. kzbin.info/www/bejne/mn7bdIp_lLqjg6c

[@jamesjimenez3552]

If I may add my 2¢… don’t do a shank.. try piece of stuff mono, a single piece, or twist it and that will create a loop that you can slip the hook point through and then the “tail” of the fly will be beyond the hook gap/point and be flexible enough not to cause issues when it comes to hook setting.. Will help with keeping it from fouling. Putting your hard mono in hot/warm water will help getting it into shape and will keep it in the shape you will need #hawghunterflies

[@flyfishingtheozarks]

I'm not really worries about the length of the fly or carrying weight very far back at all, the only reason I am thinking about a shank is for extra movement......I'm not even opposedtrying a shank in front of the hook.

[@georgea4500]

What's the best swim fly for shallow rivers? I think smaller is better, right?

[@flyfishingtheozarks]

Depends on the fish in those rivers. I have seen some small creeks that hold big smallmouth. What "I" say is we are knocking on doors trying to see if anyone is home----sometimes we just use a bigger door knocker. 🙂

[@Fishing.friday]

Neat concept! Can you show me how to tie a fly that doesn’t get stuck in trees?

[@flyfishingtheozarks]

Simple! No hook! 🤑

[@scottcollette2755]

I'm very excited about this series!

[@flyfishingtheozarks]

It's going to be a lot of fun.

[@randychappell5955]

I hope non paying follows will get to see the entire process?

[@flyfishingtheozarks]

Definitely!

[@the_flies_that_bind]

So stoked for this series! Can’t wait to learn from your design process.

[@flyfishingtheozarks]

Its definitely going to be fun!!

[@jimd4504]

Luv it can’t wait to see the whole series

[@flyfishingtheozarks]

Me too! 😆

[@TheWVgoodguy22]

Heck yeah Brian I am excited about this series for sure. I myself enjoy coming up with something new or my own tweaks to an established pattern. Gunnar Brammer has done some fly design series with sketches breaking down each step, but that’s on something that he has already designed. Even using the Infinite ♾️ Fly principle from Bob Popovich. But like you said I don’t believe that I have seen a series where someone starts from scratch with an idea and goes all the way through till they have it adopted by MFC. So I look forward to watching the next episode and the rest of this series.

[@flyfishingtheozarks]

I love Gunnar's stuff, for sure.

[@TheWVgoodguy22]

@@flyfishingtheozarks me too, you two are the top fly tying guys that I watch and have for years. 😎🎣

[@flyfishingtheozarks]

@@TheWVgoodguy22 Nice....thanks so much!

[@turbo2275]

Brian, This came to mind when you mentioned the shoulder on your fly. I tie some flies with a twist, like a twist bugger, for the shoulder. I works great to build localized bulk to present a bait fish profile. Thanks for all you great work, you’re a great creative

[@flyfishingtheozarks]

Care to elaborate? You have my attention.

[@turbo2275]

Hi Brian, I’m an old steelheader that has transplanted to Arkansas. I do a lot of trout spey with streamers, and a lot on my patterns are derived from steelhead flies. I tie a version of a Hoh Bo Spey (on a shank) for trout, more natural colors and more of a baitfish profile than the leach profile of the Hoh Bo. The way I get the baitfish shape is to create a shoulder, or prop toward the front of the fly. I do this is by twisting some predator wrap with some schlappen and wrap 3 to five times. Then the maribou goes on the front of the fly and it drapes over the shoulder. The predator wrap also provides some nice translucence in the under body. The fly swims great and I do very well with it here in Arkansas. Hope this is helpful

[@flyfishingtheozarks]

Oh! So, like a Complex Twist with Predator Wrap....Nice!

[@JohnJonelis]

This is great!

[@flyfishingtheozarks]

Thanks so much!

[@joshalters3940]

Great idea!

[@flyfishingtheozarks]

Thanks! Should be fun.