Street Track Failures: Episode 21 - Sydney

[@W123KartSport]

"HE'S IN THE FENCE!" "THEY'RE BOTH IN THE FENCE" THEY'RE. ALL. IN. THE FENCE!!!!" one of the most classic lines in all of Australian motor racing

[@FanAtTheFence]

It lives rent free in my brain!

[@tydyeracinggaming4742]

I'd argue it's one of the most iconic lines in all of motorsport.

[@pendremacherald6758]

Definitely top 20 most iconic Motorsport commentary lines of all time.

[@jameswormsley460]

🔥🔥🔥

[@W123KartSport]

No joke, this would make an excellent Formula E track for Gen 3

[@tydyeracinggaming4742]

I could definitely picture that working very well.

[@MalloryMinerva]

A Newcastle E-Prix could also be really cool

[@nickklavdianos5136]

@@MalloryMinerva Or Townsville

[@damienwiggett9302]

I've waited ages for you to mention Oran Park, soo many wonderful memories there!! ❤😊

[@kxtji]

1:42 that drift was bloody beautiful😢

[@farhanatashiga3721]

I do appreciate that you have wide scope in defining "failure" it keeps things interesting aswell giving the lesson in no matter how good something is failure is always lurking around the corner in one form or another

[@tydyeracinggaming4742]

For me, some of these tracks that feature in this series, aren't necessarily failures in terms of track layout. It allows for there to be more tracks added to this series.

[@AndrewGeierMelons]

I, personally, as a racing driver, love street circuits specifically because they punish the opposition harder. My consistency in a race car is my strength. Add in my immense pleasure from perfectly timed hops and rainy races, and this track is IT. This is it. This is the track for me

[@tydyeracinggaming4742]

A great drivers track for sure this circuit. Very little room for error.

[@dragonhunter2271]

I loved that circuit and I was sad to hear it go. I'm also very surprised to hear you say that the reason for it going was financial. Also - I have to agree with you about turn 8 being on the best corners because of it characteristics making it a really difficult corner. Then you add no ABS and TC and it even more harder to nail and get right without either binning it or losing a bucket load of time. Like you said/covered in the video

[@tydyeracinggaming4742]

Turn 8 was fantastic, always seemed like such a satisfying corner to get right.

[@rainbowsmakemehappy]

Financial reasons is the simplest way of putting it. It had been widely criticised from a environmental standpoint due to the number of trees uprooted, but the main reason was the inability to use any of the 4 major arenas/stadiums located within the precinct during the week of the event which was obviously a massive loss for the area. They looked at cutting out half the circuit) from the first chicane up to sort of mid-way down the back straight) to allow the use of the Superdome and the Olympic Stadium but it wasn't feasible in the end.

[@Wizzkidwas]

That Fuso Truck corner seems like a real great challenge to watch and an absolute pain in the ass to actually drive/sim-drive

[@tydyeracinggaming4742]

I'd imagine that you're correct in that assumption.

[@mrirace926]

I miss Oran Park AND SOP. Thanks for this! Truly one of the best growing channels!

[@tydyeracinggaming4742]

Thanks for the very high compliments! I'll do my best to try and keep improving my videos.

[@The_Evil_Monkey_93]

I loved the fact that when you caught the train to Olumpic Park station, It was inside the track itself. That meant as soon as you got off the train the sound of the cars reverberated through and down into the station platforms, That and the paddock area was the showbag pavilion. A large building where teams would set the transporters and a double garage up.

[@Fabs4947]

I watched all videos of this series and I just realized i didn't follow you yet... Amazing content, as always

[@tydyeracinggaming4742]

The subscription is hugely appreciated. However, I'm glad you're enjoying the videos!

[@FanAtTheFence]

Considering how many reasonably plain 90 degree corners there were around this track, I have a lot of fond memories from the racing around this place. Thanks for including some Australian tracks in this great series 🙂

[@batchmotorsport]

90 degree bends and medium length straights work so much better for Supercars then long flowing bends like typical European circuits

[@tydyeracinggaming4742]

No worries! I always like to try and include as much car and geographical variety as possible in this series.

[@huwmo]

The Vancouver street circuit is one of the few streets tracks ever done in Canada and might be interesting to look into!

[@AndrewGeierMelons]

We've had plenty. Vancouver, Montreal F1, Toronto Honda Indy, Barrie Karting Grand Prix...

[@jacekatalakis8316]

​@@AndrewGeierMelons Atlantics alone can provide at least a half dozen too, who doesn't love 70s-90s Atlantics in random places in Canada? To be fair, Montreal absolutely isn't a failure, the F1 at least. Vancouver, any race that has a fatality in the first year can only get better, or at least not get worse. I'm wondering if the Halifax, NS, one would be a candidate for the series though reeally. Vancouver stuck around for some 10+ years, Montreal's been around, and so on but Halifax is relatively unknown unlike the others

[@cameronheidelauf9623]

This isn't Canada it's all about v8 supercars based in Australia here

[@AndrewGeierMelons]

@@jacekatalakis8316 I wasn't talking specifically about failures

[@jacekatalakis8316]

@@cameronheidelauf9623 Considering the comment I was replying to mentioned Canadian tracks, that's what I was replying to, I mean, I can think of quite a few Australian/Kiwi tracks but they've already been suggested or done, or don't seem to fail enough. That and the V8s haven't had too many out and out fails when it comes to street tracks. Now if you include all the tracks, there's some really awful tracks they've run at over the years (How Queensland ever got to be a 500km event baffles me)

[@Jimlaad43]

Honestly, calling this circuit a "Failure" is a bit of an insult to it. As you said pretty much all the way through, it was a decent track which had its fair share of memorable moments and eventually ran out of money after more than half a decade of races. This track was a success. Failure should be saved for messes like Miami FE, Jingkai A1GP in Beijing and the other Beijing Street Circuit for Superleague Formula. They had glaring issues and didn't come back because they really were: Failures.

[@farhanatashiga3721]

Broaden your horizon m8 Failure doesn't always have to mean a bad track with a litany of issues, a track can be good but still fail if it doesn't stick around for a long time. Sure 8 years is a long time for street circuit standard and sure it'll be memorable for years to come. But the fact remains that it was intended to be a replacement for an iconic purpose built circuit, and it fails to meet the financial requirements to become that for the long term. And so failure is right

[@TanTan28245]

Love this series❤

[@tydyeracinggaming4742]

Glad you're enjoying the series!

[@orsomethingorno]

Although the event itself wasn't successful, it was a great circuit. Look past the ninety degree corners, that's natural for a street circuit, this circuit was a perfect fit for V8 Supercars. And that Turn 9 was fantastically chaos-generating. The thing that really made it was the curved entry which meant you had to commit to the corner so early -- so if you got it wrong, there was no refuge in the escape road, you were already pointing at the wall.

[@niftynic-5150]

2 obscure and short-lived street tracks in Australia that might interest you is Port Kembla (NSW) and Macarthur Park (ACT), both motorcycle races but very little footage available so maybe do a combo video

[@GamersHolyArmy]

Assuming it counts, the Walt Disney World Speedway might be an interesting addition. The Niagara Falls Trans Am race track might be an interesting video as well.

[@tydyeracinggaming4742]

Niagara Falls may feature in this series at some point. I don't think Walt Disney World Speedway counts, albeit I might do a video on that track though.

[@mrdiamond365_]

I love it. I always go back and watch old raced because they were so good

[@twisteddrift9860]

A great street circuit. Always had great racing. A great event to end the season. I personally miss this event.

[@tydyeracinggaming4742]

I have a very similar opinion to you. A great track to end the season.

[@blinco1539]

It’s always a good day when one of these videos come out

[@eholanda01]

Indeed 👍🏻👍🏻

[@tydyeracinggaming4742]

Thanks for the kind words!

[@ZJzimo]

Im in love in this series, because it help remember or discover street circuits that i didnt know existed So i wanted to suggest some tracks too 1) Beijing Olympic Park: I couldnt find much infos for the failure but i know it hosted 2 races of A1GP in 2006/2007 and then it hosted (with a different layout) Formula E for just 1 year i think in 2015 2)Bangsaen street circuit:Its a very narrow and underrated street circuit which was created in 2007, im not sure if it got cancelled beacause as far as i known it host a speed festival to this day, just wanted to know if you could find some more infos. 3)Callajero santa fe: This one used to host TC2000 and to this day i think it host Super TC2000 but with a totally different layout, the old layout used for 2006 and 2007 in fact was named "Gran premio de Santa Fe" and it used to be really narrow, i still dont clearly know why it was discontinued but there are a lot more info online. 4)Baku City Challenge:I just seen the Bucharest street circuit video even tho i arleady known this tracks, and so i remembered about baku city challenge street circuit that was in the city challenge calendar. To this day Baku host the F1 GP which is completely different to this one. I know it was used in the 2012 and got cancelled since city challenge ended( if im not wrong) 5)Baku World Challenge: A complete different layout(compared to the 2012 race)that raced on closed streets of baku in 2013 and 2014 with Gt cars, it got discontinued because formula 1 wanted to host races at baku starting from 2016. 6)Ribeirao Preto:A street circuit located in Brasil, Sao Paulo, that hosted Stock Car Brasil races in 2010,2013,2015, it was also planned to race in 2014 but for unknown reason (as far as i know) it got cancelled I dont think you ever talked about those street tracks and so i thinked it was a great idea to recommand them, tell me what you think :)

[@Pal_D1R35T4]

I was also going to suggest the Beijing Track for A1GP being next week the date the chinese GP was supposed to take place

[@ZJzimo]

@@Pal_D1R35T4 such a shame it didnt last long a1gp

[@tydyeracinggaming4742]

Glad you're enjoying this series! I'm glad that I'm able to help people either remember or discover about circuits they may have never seen before, or forgotten about. All those tracks may feature in this series. Although, Bangsaen could be one for the honourable mentions video.

[@ZJzimo]

@@tydyeracinggaming4742 yeah that make sense since it still exist, thank for the attention!

[@kevinfoote3092]

Thank you for these, I really enjoy this series. For a track suggestion, haw about Niagara Falls? Trans-Am was the headline event, and it was my first introduction to Walter Rorhl. His obliteration of the field in qualifying in his first race in Trans Am was the beginning of the end of all wheel drive in Trans-Am.

[@tydyeracinggaming4742]

Glad you're enjoying this series! That track could very well feature in this series at some point.

[@orionparish9858]

I think one bit of commentary says it all. I think it goes like this: "HE'S IN THE FENCE!" "THEY'RE BOTH IN THE FENCE" THEY'RE ALL IN THE FENCE!!!!" 😜.

[@somebloodybrit8067]

The Birmingham Superprix was a... unique event to say the least, would like to see you cover it.

[@tydyeracinggaming4742]

That track will more than likely feature in this series.

[@II_Hylander]

Crowd numbers dropped over the years at this track sadly as well think that was also contributing factor

[@davidmitchell2250]

Great video for my all time favourite street circuit in V8 Supercars, would absolutely love to see it return if money wasn't a factor. Love 'The Vangisberger' for Turn 10 😂

[@MinhLe-kt5zg]

One of my favourite street circuits in the world. Such a shame it had to get dropped. Like it was genuinely amazing the racing every year 😢😢😢

[@shig.bitz.3205]

I remember Oran Park from TOCA Race Driver 2 on PS2! Man that game had an awesome tracklist!

[@tydyeracinggaming4742]

That was a brilliant game to be fair.

[@johnvandeventer8668]

I think the Nashville Street course is a potential video if it doesn’t happen next year

[@GeorgeSouv26]

I Lived in the suburb right next to sydney olypmpic park and from my house i still remember hearing those screaming v8s

[@danesorensen1775]

That 2010 finale... a hard-won title for DJR in the middle of an era of malaise... just incredible. That, and Frosty getting his shoe changed by mechanic because cabin temps got so high the damn thing melted and fell apart. Crazy.

[@sgtepicspeed3033]

It was Reynolds with the shoe change

[@danesorensen1775]

@@sgtepicspeed3033 Was it? Ah well, thanks for the correction.

[@thatsimracer666]

the show change was david reynolds in first race of 2 in 2012

[@jrmitchell7133]

That 2010 finish as a winter bottom fan I was yelling at the tv for him to pit before that restart as he was so far behind in points he needed to do alternate to others. The one guy that did win the race 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@heliofaros1344]

For a track layout looking so blant on the map it was probably more fun to watch the races than driving them. Just watching those big boats navigating the waves of the back straight alone😊. Not much of a failure really. Even lasted relatively long for a temporary circuit. But then...it's time was up. 😢

[@tydyeracinggaming4742]

This is probably the track that is the least failure worthy in this series so far.

[@berserkfuryyy6798]

Very epic track! War of attrition this one for sure. I love V8 Supercars and I hate Holden had to close their doors because of GM.

[@tydyeracinggaming4742]

Certainly, an iconic track, no doubt about that.

[@magiclapras]

I was there for the race that got rained out and cut short. Nice and soaked by the time I got to the train station. Be interesting to see if you decide to cover Bathurst on the channel at some point. Not a failure by any means, but definitely has some awkward corners.

[@MalloryMinerva]

By chance the first Supercars race I watched was here and it left a good impression on me, so I have a very positive bias towards this track.

[@pedroferraz6244]

Can I propose the Boavista circuit in Porto, Portugal? This circuit was the first circuit in Portugal to host a Formula 1 race and the last major motorsport event there was the WTCC that happen in the years 2007, 2009, 2011 and 2013. However, in 2015 Porto City Council decided to suspend the races . Due to the withdrawal of support from Turismo de Portugal - a Portuguese government institute - the city of Porto was unable to hold events on the circuit. Nowadays, the circuit is abandoned.

[@farhanatashiga3721]

We haven't had any WTCC tracks in this series aren't we? As long as there's enough footage of it then it should be an episode

[@tydyeracinggaming4742]

That track will more than likely feature in this series.

[@danericardo6148]

Could you do a video on the Gothenborg Eco Arena in Sweden? It was an obscure STCC track with a terrible layout, so it should fit this series perfectly in my opinion!

[@samspencerRS]

T10 should be named "Turn Left to go Right!"

[@tydyeracinggaming4742]

That's certainly better than the name I came up with.

[@seanadams8444]

Not going into detail on right angle corners 😂 the hallmark of every street circuit. With that though... perhaps do a video of the "perfect" street circuit? If you could mend the front stretch of Long Beach with the uphill ascent of Monaco and the castle of Baku -- etc.

[@tydyeracinggaming4742]

That sounds like an awesome video idea!

[@seanadams8444]

@TyDye RacingGaming this is an awesome channel! Definitely keep the content coming!

[@BLITZKRIEG1]

i love cycling through there. You could see all the rubber on the track

[@PSC-ll2dn]

Went to every round held there have all the programs. Great memories like when frosty won the title in 2015 to they're all in the fence. Even remember getting evacuated from our grandstand cause there was an electrical storm coming through Good times.

[@DW98rosy]

certainly a interesting circuit, this one was. should go back and watch some of the race at it, the clips i saw in video looked fun. now for tracks i think could be of interested to see cover in this series: the formula e harbourfront street circuit in my home country of hong kong, the montréal e-prix circuit (which i also went to the races there in 2017), and the 2007 vegas grand prix champ car track. (i'd suggest edmonton but, that's airport, not street circuit.) i also did mentioned são paulo Indycar street circuit before, as another potential interesting one.

[@tydyeracinggaming4742]

All those tracks could definitely feature in this series in the future.

[@michaelb6729]

In 2016, knowing it was the last race, the evening/afternoon before the event and before the track officially closed for event use only - I rode my road bike around the full circuit and posted Strava lap times. Feeling quite proud of myself knowing no one else would post a time ( as it was the last time the full circuit will be available for public use) and will be saved forever in Strava. I get home that evening, reviewed my laps, and damn it, half the cyclists in Sydney saw what I had done and did the same thing and posted faster times .... 😂

[@markisaki979]

Scenes when Sydney is added to Forza Motorsport and Turn 10 Studios opts to sponsor the Van Gisberger in real life

[@coopermoore3053]

I remember watching the first three races at Homebush I was at the sweeper in the wet when all the leaders crashed I would’ve only been about 5 or 6 genuinely amazing circuit

[@tydyeracinggaming4742]

That must have been quite the sight for sure. The crowd losing their minds as well I imagine.

[@benwalter4842]

Look into the Halifax street circuit, the Edmonton Airport street circuit, and Birmingham UK street circuit please.

[@pavelbier4359]

How about Shanghai Pudong Street Circuit? DTM raced there for a few years

[@tydyeracinggaming4742]

That track may feature in this series at some point.

[@didgereemedia194]

I was there for the 2015 season finale, and I really had a good time. But NOTHING tops the 2010 havoc

[@tydyeracinggaming4742]

Always great to hear from people who were at these races, glad you enjoyed the event.

[@didgereemedia194]

@TyDye RacingGaming it was also my first time seeing the Stadium Super Trucks in track, and two event crashed in front of me. I was able to look into the cab and see the drivers controls

[@johndaniels4623]

Here’s a better idea, “Turn 10 Studios Corner” because I like a good pun/play on words

[@tydyeracinggaming4742]

That's definitely better than the name I came up with.

[@bencrowe88]

You should definitely do one on Wellington!

[@tydyeracinggaming4742]

That track will more than likely feature in this series.

[@dmcfarland7927]

Could you do the 1986 Columbus Ohio Gran prix? Only happened once. Also you should check out the Cleveland grand prix which ended in 2007

[@tydyeracinggaming4742]

That track will more than likely feature in this series. Cleveland is more of an airport track, but if I do an airport track series, that circuit would possibly feature.

[@minibus9]

awesome video, could you do Birmingham Superprix at some point?

[@tydyeracinggaming4742]

Birmingham will more than likely feature in this series at some point.

[@Evilpengwinz78]

Video suggestion: The Birmingham Superprix.

[@dmitrykiselev8087]

Very underrated citrcuit. As far as I know, there were also environmental concerns that led to its demise.

[@paulmccourt6185]

I attended this track a couple of times, although it was a good venue, being a former Olympic Games site! Track visability was absolutely atrocious. Only seeing the cars for a split second no matter where you sat

[@captainsmartass3368]

I miss Oran Park

[@eholanda01]

F1 CEO Stefano Domenicali said during the Australian Grand Prix this year that he received a serious proposal from Sydney to hold the GP. I wonder if it was at this location in the Sydney Olympic Park. If so, I believe that F1 is better in Melbourne then. Although, with so many people watching the GP, Australia deserved a second F1 race of the season. And Sidney would be a great candidate, but I'm not sure on this track. Great video, congrats !!

[@farhanatashiga3721]

If it's this location it's probably not going to be the same track, certain aspects of it just wouldn't cut it for F1.

[@tydyeracinggaming4742]

Glad you enjoyed the video! I think I saw something about a Sydney F1 race. Would doubt it would happen given Melbourne's long contract. Although, I'd be happy to be proven wrong.

[@thatsimracer666]

@@tydyeracinggaming4742 I reckon the bend would be better in my opinion for f1 just because it has a euro vibe and hotel onsite

[@travel1071]

You could make a video on the birmingham superprix. It was a pretty good street track in my opinion

[@KerbYourEnthusiasm]

I worked at a couple of these events back in the day… Will never forget the truckie that pulled me aside to tell me a joke about the difference between redheads & blondes 🥹 Thx for the memories 👏🏽

[@igorss8921]

Ribeirão preto is a good theme for an video

[@RosyMiranto]

Someday we get the redemption and seeing another street race on Sydney Harbor Bridge :)

[@tydyeracinggaming4742]

That would be great to see again for sure.

[@mattcecil6692]

This track disappearing was a travesty. A lot of people enjoyed that track. It never really had a boring race.

[@f1fanatic785]

How about a video on the Cleveland city airport circuit or the Edmonton city center airport circuit

[@eggselent9814]

I wouldn’t call Cleveland a failure honestly as it had been a track for 30 years or so

[@Tyindel]

The sad thing is that you might have to be doing an Epsiode on this tracks replacement at Newcastle as it looks like the Newcastle street track as it seems the more posh people in Newcastle hate the event and wanted any excuse to see it gone which it looks like given its not on the 2024 schedule

[@MyAlessio93]

I want see the races of the Supercars: how can do?

[@tydyeracinggaming4742]

If you want to see the Supercars races in full, then it's official channel should have a large number of those Sydney races uploaded. Here is one of the races they have. kzbin.info/www/bejne/rmWuln-Kh8eqg5I

[@johnberger1466]

Columbus, OH from 1985-1988. I got the track map if you need it. Also, Formula E should to Columbus.

[@tydyeracinggaming4742]

That track will more than likely feature in this series.

[@thatsimracer666]

you should do a video of the aussie racing cars there in my opinion the best cars out there and fun to work on

[@donnypopovski7251]

The event came about due to supercars' pretentiousness and vanity.

[@yazzanvlogs]

Can you do one about biscayne bay pls?

[@tydyeracinggaming4742]

That track may feature in this series in the future.

[@TheExitKerb]

Hello again :)

[@tydyeracinggaming4742]

Hello!

[@Hueys93]

Seriously, I hated this track. The layout was terrible, samey and dangerous for the supercars. I was so glad when it went

[@hamburber0]

Didnt watch it yet, but great vid :)

[@tydyeracinggaming4742]

Hope the video didn't disappoint when you did see it.

[@GTVIRUS]

An aussie racing car did roll on top of another at Adelaide in 09. kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y2Woo358YpqDi9k

[@ppercut]

most of the v8 racers i saw all got rained out so was no point watching after the red flags came out becuse you knuw they would cancel it

[@Lightningchaser92]

i wonder if there's any swedish street tracks that never made it long.

[@Lightningchaser92]

look up Bananpiren (the banana pier) that was in Gothenburg, Sweden

[@slim1940]

My tummy hurts