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5 жыл бұрын

Rip explains that if you are strong you can run.
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@longduckdong4447
@longduckdong4447 5 жыл бұрын
You sir are correct. Coach Jason Blaha was a marathon prodigy before his recruitment into the the government agency that cannot be said.
@Sethrod8
@Sethrod8 5 жыл бұрын
LongDuckDong be careful Agent Blaha may come and get you, remember he trained at Langley and did snatch and grabs
@ohmytoshi
@ohmytoshi 3 жыл бұрын
Inner City ~~~
@qc85243
@qc85243 3 жыл бұрын
@@Sethrod8 more likely sniffed around for snatch, and played grab ass.
@jameshorton5395
@jameshorton5395 2 жыл бұрын
Blaha is most definitely Delta Force.
@bobdylan3592
@bobdylan3592 Жыл бұрын
being strong allows you to run guys. for a video suggestion can we get rip and nick to run a 2 mile in 13 minutes
@elendiel
@elendiel 5 жыл бұрын
4:40 - this seems patently false. It is extremely easy to imagine a kid who is quite pudgy, yet strong, and can achieve all those numbers (or more) easily, yet cannot run 5 miles without taking a significant break (let's define running as 10km/h). Hell, after I last bulked over winter, I could squat 420, press 190, and pull 550, but I would be very hard pressed to run 5 miles with any kind of speed except for a slow jog. Strength training as Rip suggests should obviously be a major part of the military training, but I believe it is foolish to think you can run well just because you are strong.
@gabem8712
@gabem8712 3 жыл бұрын
Strength is a long term addaptaion where as cardio can be built up easily in comparison through a couple weeks of training
@copeenthuisiast5453
@copeenthuisiast5453 3 жыл бұрын
@@gabem8712 and his given numbers are unrealistic. Average dude, no prior training, 405 deadlift in 6 months? With good form?
@ericdaniel323
@ericdaniel323 3 жыл бұрын
@@copeenthuisiast5453 he's sort of cherry picking from his data set. For a healthy 20-year-old male who is willing to gain a significant amount of weight that's definitely feasible. For, say, a 60-year-old man, or a 40-year-old couch potato who needs to lose a significant amount of body fat, probably not so much. I got my deadlift and squat over 400 in under a year running SSLP followed by a heavy-light-medium style routine, but I was 30 and in decent shape, and gained 20 pounds in the process.
@constantine2197
@constantine2197 3 жыл бұрын
@@ericdaniel323 it isn't "cherry-picked" we are discussing military age males here. Obviously this isn't meant for 40+ yo guys.
@justcody4615
@justcody4615 2 жыл бұрын
I don't want to necro this old comment, but this wouldn't be an issue for the military, there are weight requirements for joining so you won't get a pudgy kid with misleading leverages
@Rizzo2185
@Rizzo2185 4 жыл бұрын
I brought my bench up to 315 and was able to run from my house to Japan with relative ease. I live in seattle
@astang1072
@astang1072 3 жыл бұрын
I’m 30. I spent SOOO MANY years trying to figure out how to stay with my running goals AND get good strength training numbers AND get my six pack with dieting (have a bit of a “fat kid” metabolism). All of it canceled the others out. Now I’m doing starting strength. Thanks Rip! Wish I found this a decade ago.
@LTPottenger
@LTPottenger 3 жыл бұрын
For fat burning nothing beats wingates, which is a form of HIIT exercise. But strength training is the most important thing.
@mlbowens
@mlbowens 5 жыл бұрын
Running doesn’t make you stronger but it makes combat easier, and I guess the 20 mile patrols we did in Afghanistan were archaic and unnecessary. And as far as basic training goes it’s not limited to doing those three things you do obstacle courses where you put ammo cans over head, scale rope nets, climb ropes and climb walls. I personally went from benching 105 in track my senior year and after basic I was doing sets of 10 with 135, so you will get stronger. Also the army has moved to adding a deadlift to the PT test, the problem with adding so much weight lifting is logistics, it’s free and requires no equipment to run, do push-ups and do sit ups. Not disagreeing with rip here just saying my side of this. The 2 mile run will never go away since the army deemed it necessary during the Korean campaign, I personally hate running but I see it’s place in training for combat.
@michaellovell2518
@michaellovell2518 5 жыл бұрын
Well said. Even linemen can benefit from laps and sprints... I agree with Rip about adding strength training, but I will flat out disagree with anyone who says soldiers don't need to run.
@lancestumpf7518
@lancestumpf7518 5 жыл бұрын
Running was always the worst, and the most useful. Conditioning was limited but when it was done it was useful too. What was never really useful was push ups and sit ups when we could've been lifting.. but you did really nail it on the head. It's expensive to lift. It's expensive to get a platoon in the gym let alone a company. I couldn't imagine an entire battalion trying to work it in.
@michaellovell2518
@michaellovell2518 5 жыл бұрын
@@lancestumpf7518 The cost per soldier would be a drop in the bucket (or maybe I should say lake) that is our military budget. I say spend the money on the soldiers.
@oliverallen5324
@oliverallen5324 5 жыл бұрын
Lance Stumpf where is the expense? The program takes 45 min at most 3 times a week. It would save money lol.
@NuttyElf
@NuttyElf 5 жыл бұрын
His point is more to the effect of if you could bench 200 instead of 135 and squat and deadlift 400. You will be able to ruck around a 100 plus pound kit for 20 miles. Because you weren't actually running those 20 miles... Look at this this way, who can run a mile faster with 150 pounds on their back, the skinny guy who runs the 3 mile (Marines) in 17 minutes weighing 140lbs, or the guy who can squat 400 weighing 200?... That's his point.. you can get the stronger guy to move with 3 weeks (literally) of conditioning. The weaker guy takes years to get strong. Who's easier to kill in hand to hand combat? Who can carry his kit and carry a 200lb man for 5 miles? (nobody is truly running then either) how does any real life combat scenario translate to running around the post all day with no weight on your back other than being conditioned, where you wouldn't benefit more by just being strong? Rips point is a strong man is already reasonably conditioned. So train for strength.
@Hanuman_
@Hanuman_ 5 жыл бұрын
I had this exact experience. Didn't run for several years. Started lifting weights. Went for a run on a whim, my new strength allowed me to smoke steep hills that had really challenged me before, and honestly my cardio was still pretty good in general despite not doing cardio.
@1ANT8
@1ANT8 5 жыл бұрын
Same here!!
@sheadoherty7434
@sheadoherty7434 5 жыл бұрын
You're saying you didn't train cardio but you think you had good cardio?
@Hanuman_
@Hanuman_ 5 жыл бұрын
@@sheadoherty7434 I think lofting weights stresses ur cardio enough to at least maintain a lot of what u have. I hadn't run in 3 years when I set foot on a familiar hilly trail as my gf wanted to go running. She had been training her cardio all year, but I easily outstripped her and generally was surprised with how well I did.
@Hanuman_
@Hanuman_ 5 жыл бұрын
@@sheadoherty7434 my gf had trained running like a year, an untrained man doesn't beat that woman.
@sheadoherty7434
@sheadoherty7434 5 жыл бұрын
@@Hanuman_ an untrained man has far bigger lungs, greater leg span, larger heart. Unless you were completely unfit, you had an advantage. When I didn't run, I beat my housemate, a woman runner. If you were to run against trained males, you'd have a completely different result.
@araarmo
@araarmo 3 жыл бұрын
running does get your legs stronger and pushups do get you stronger at a certain volume. It depends on what the training goals of the individual are.
@LifeofPayne
@LifeofPayne 5 ай бұрын
No. It. Does. Not.
@user-ic6oq5ty9c
@user-ic6oq5ty9c 5 жыл бұрын
I remember my OC banned the boys from even stepping into the weight room as it wasn't 'cardio'. That's the Army for you
@guilhermegarcia8750
@guilhermegarcia8750 4 жыл бұрын
What will these GIs do with their skinny legs?
@joesepulveda3155
@joesepulveda3155 5 жыл бұрын
Strength without endurance is useless,you see it all the time big strong guys gassed out the warrior. Needs an overall conditioning program that encompass all areas of fitness and surely some form of running should be part of that protocol.
@fabioq6916
@fabioq6916 5 жыл бұрын
Prepare to be attacked on all sides by Rip acolytes who took up weight training in their thirties and never ran in their life, never stepped into a ring or octagon and maybe never even got into a brawl that lasted more than the time it took them to get punched in the face once,
@barbellsamurai8014
@barbellsamurai8014 5 жыл бұрын
@@fabioq6916 lmao, so true
@barryallen767
@barryallen767 Жыл бұрын
@@petter9399 Mike Tyson did need his cardio... can you explain what you meant by "which he didn't even need"?
@arthurlloyd5165
@arthurlloyd5165 Жыл бұрын
And being able to run is useless in the military if you're not strong enough to do it with gear, weapons, and ammo on you.
@arthurlloyd5165
@arthurlloyd5165 Жыл бұрын
The running goes without saying but the strength training should be added
@mikemusgrove9654
@mikemusgrove9654 Жыл бұрын
I’m an active duty Drill Sergeant right now and I was an Infantry Platoon Sergeant before I went under the hat and I couldn’t agree more. 1. Get really damned strong. This is most important. After that’s accomplished. 2. Sprint pretty well and repeatedly with a bunch of kit on. When it’s time to run, it won’t be far but you do it fast or get shot. 3. Be able to walk really far with a heavy rucksack. A damned good squat helps. See #1.
@tomtucker83
@tomtucker83 3 жыл бұрын
Mark might be an expert on strength training, but that's about it.
@curtbentley
@curtbentley 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly my thoughts. He's way out of his depth here.
@johnbr59
@johnbr59 2 жыл бұрын
Mark genuinely seems to believe that his program is the one-size-fits-all solution for all physical pursuits... which is obviously not true
@milesorec6789
@milesorec6789 5 жыл бұрын
have you considered that muscular endurance is prioritised over strength? being able to cover miles on foot with 60 pounds of gear seems more specific to military requirements than squatting 3 plates for a 5x5
@aprlv6732
@aprlv6732 5 жыл бұрын
187 Proof doing both would be even better
@MicahtheGreat777
@MicahtheGreat777 5 жыл бұрын
My understanding of Rip's argument is that of course strength training prepares you for those specific movement patterns at heavy loads, but that strength gain, to a certain percentage, helps your endurance as well. Each step with a heavy pack is better dealt with by training leg and back strength instead of simple cardiovascular or sub-maximal muscle recruitment movements. So @adam roberts is right that it's probably better to do both. Rip also often explains that much of current military warfare is mechanized, and more effort is put into moving and setting up heavy objects than travel for long distances on foot. However, I've not been in the military, so I can't attest to that. I have often gone hiking for long distances or hunting in high elevations, and personally, I've noticed that overall muscular strength has more staying power and effect than just endurance ability, as it seems to accumulate and dissipate more rapidly than overall strength. These activities became much more easy after I started strength training, after 30 years old, than when I was 20 and in soccer and martial arts conditioning. His numbers aren't quite right, but I can run just as much or more now after doubling my 4 main lifts than I could when I was actually trying to increase my endurance by running more (again, after a 10 year gap). I may not make sense but it seems to work. So, fucking do all of it. And I'd say add stretching and breathing (yoga) exercises, but RIp would be pissed.
@Rangerfan-gz1rx
@Rangerfan-gz1rx 5 жыл бұрын
You don’t understand strength. Being able to squat 3 plates for 5x5 doesn’t just make you good at squatting 3 plates for 5x5, it makes you better at everything, it improves muscular and cardiovascular endurance, it decreases injury and death. Being able to squat 315 for 5x5 will make that 60lbs of gear on your back a lot lighter.
@sheadoherty7434
@sheadoherty7434 5 жыл бұрын
@@Rangerfan-gz1rx 3 plate squat for 5x5 doesn't put too much into endurance. I like Rip but his strength bias comes out too much when he talks about endurance. He's right on saying soldiers should be stronger, but when he talks about using strength to improve endurance, he stumbles
@fabioq6916
@fabioq6916 5 жыл бұрын
@@Rangerfan-gz1rx Mate. You cant have it both ways. Rip harps on about specificity all the time so if you want to get better at running around fast and long with a heavy pack, the BEST way to train for that is to do EXACTLY that. Squatting heavy is NOT the best way to train to run fast and far with a heavy load. It can COMPLEMENT that exercise but it does not REPLACE the exercise. Rip is correct to say that running with NO LOAD is not the optimal way to train for running with a heavy load either (because you don't get as much strength training) but then if you only do heavy squats and no running you are missing the cardiovascular endurance component required for the loaded runs too. You really just can't fathom the idea that endurance is a requirement for the infantry can you? You may be a Ranger fan but you have clearly never been in the Rangers nor talked to any of them about their requirements in the field.
@daveb5416
@daveb5416 5 жыл бұрын
hey, louie and rip agree on something- don't run, get stronger!
@michaellovell2518
@michaellovell2518 5 жыл бұрын
Squatting won't make you able to endure an all day forced march... Soldiers need endurance as well as strength. If you're strong, you can run, but how far? If you want to be good at running, you need to run. Sometimes soldiers need to run, but they ALWAYS need to be ABLE to run. I think mandatory strength training is a great idea for soldiers, at least in training, but I don't think it's a good idea to stop the running. If you're strong, you can run? Rip is strong. How far and how fast do you think he can run? He's strong enough to break me in half, but I seriously doubt he could catch me to do it, and when he gets winded, he might have a problem.
@codytibbitts657
@codytibbitts657 5 жыл бұрын
Michael Lovell Soldiers need to sprint with gear on their back. Urban ware fare doesn’t need you to run miles upon miles.
@michaellovell2518
@michaellovell2518 5 жыл бұрын
@@codytibbitts657 A soldier in the field can not know that he or she will never be required to endure a forced march. It could happen in urban warfare, but I would also point out the fact that there is no guarantee that all present and future conflicts will occur in a strictly urban environment... To imply that missions/engagements will occur only in environments that will never require more than a sprint is ludicrous.
@mattzilla331
@mattzilla331 5 жыл бұрын
Perfectly said. Mark is reaching a lot here. And how realistic would it be to train everyone and coach them with barbells?
@codytibbitts657
@codytibbitts657 5 жыл бұрын
Michael Lovell bud if you train sprints and weight train you can most certainly endure a march.
@michaellovell2518
@michaellovell2518 5 жыл бұрын
@@codytibbitts657 No fair just pulling stuff out of your ass... The long runs are brutal, even if you train for them. The average recruit dreads even mile runs, even though most young recruits can sprint without much stress and have already passed basic strength requirements. I'm starting to wonder whether you're trolling me here.
@TheDogDad
@TheDogDad 5 жыл бұрын
I've met plenty of strong people who couldn't run worth a fuck. I don't know what Mark is talking about.
@Cris18Martinez
@Cris18Martinez 3 жыл бұрын
there’s probably TONS of gym rats that have relatively strong lifts but never run that would struggle to run or wouldn’t be able to run a mile under 8 minutes, much less 5 miles.
@jameshorton5395
@jameshorton5395 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly, I hope no branch of the military adopts this guy's philosophy. "We need to stop all this running"🤣😂
@jamesmiller2462
@jamesmiller2462 5 жыл бұрын
These clips should really be called "Common Sense with Mark Rippetoe".
@qc85243
@qc85243 3 жыл бұрын
@Democrats are cunts but if you switch the focus of training to strength, why would you then test endurance, i.e. pushups, situps, run?
@LTPottenger
@LTPottenger 3 жыл бұрын
The fact people object to it so strenuously proves it is common sense.
@queers.1528
@queers.1528 3 жыл бұрын
Lol my weight is 210. 405 squat, 405 deadlift, 315 bench, 150 press. 20 years old. Guess I’ll have to see if I can jog 5 miles in a timely manner, but I doubt I can lol.
@samuelmagnum6047
@samuelmagnum6047 5 жыл бұрын
1. Bootcamp is an elimination process. 2. Calisthenics are the foundation of any and all movements. 3. If you've never been through bootcamp, then you cannot have a valid opinion. 4. Marching has a purpose. Know it before you comment on it. 5. Mental discipline is more important than strength for military service. 6. Mental discipline can be taught in a greater capacity in a shorter time to 60 to 80 recruits opposed to lifting. 7. Personally, with calisthenics as well as sports and ZERO weightlifting I was able to then deadlift easily my own bodyweight, back squat my own weight and bench press my own bodyweight with out ever practicing. Proper body mechanics is best taught by way of calisthenics and sport opposed to lifting. 8. To become a better more efficient runner you have to actually practice stride, step and posture application. 9. Go do each military test just as an 18 to 20 year old male and or female is required. 10. Lifting is offered in every gym on every base in every branch. But you must get past BASIC training first, then the real training starts.
@rick.bernal
@rick.bernal 5 жыл бұрын
Well said and explained.
@alrbredwall
@alrbredwall Жыл бұрын
If you have to go through the service to have an opinion, then why does the military hire civilian coaches to consult and administer fitness programs like they recently did in the Navy?
@maxximus2012
@maxximus2012 5 жыл бұрын
strength training would have definitely helped me run better in highschool, when I started lifting in college getting ready for the military I found that I was able to run less often but get better run times with the addition of regular, progressive strength training
@fabioq6916
@fabioq6916 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, but that is to COMPLEMENT your running, not REPLACE IT.
@guilhermegarcia8750
@guilhermegarcia8750 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah people dont get that weight training improves our cordination, skeletal structure and reflexes. Go figure.
@channeellll7623
@channeellll7623 6 күн бұрын
We got told by our Master Sergeant of the BN, Top Paqi, that we needed to run, ruck, do sit ups and pullups, quit asking why, and stop worrying about lifting weights. Well you make us walk with 100lbs of crap so lifting weights reduced injuries and we didnt fatigue as fast as non lifters…
@paxonearth
@paxonearth 3 жыл бұрын
I went through basic at Ft. Benning in the mid-80's. Perhaps the brutal numbers of push ups and situps, along with miles and miles of running and forced marches didn't do much to improve my deadlift, but they certainly improved performance of those skills a soldier needs.
@Pope2501
@Pope2501 Жыл бұрын
How many times did you use push-ups or sit-ups to complete a mission objective?
@paxonearth
@paxonearth Жыл бұрын
@@Pope2501 Probably the same number of times I used the deadlift or bench press to complete a mission objective.
@Pope2501
@Pope2501 Жыл бұрын
@@paxonearth then squats and deadlifts improved those skills a soldier needs to the same degree as the "brutal number of push ups and sit ups."
@Iceman-xe7jo
@Iceman-xe7jo 3 жыл бұрын
Whatever you train in you have to train in that thing you are training for. A heavy squat does not equate to a faster 1 mile run time. They are two different fruits. Apples and oranges.
@randomnameindeed
@randomnameindeed 3 жыл бұрын
I always watch one of Rip's videos on running and cardio whenever i need a good laugh. These videos are so silly and ignorant that I'd almost accuse him of trolling.
@johanhansson4574
@johanhansson4574 3 жыл бұрын
He runs a sect of 5x5. I wouldn't be surprised if he claims 5x5 barbell training cures covid19
@randomnameindeed
@randomnameindeed 3 жыл бұрын
Johan Hansson LOL, that wouldn’t have surprised me either!
@Ninja7Star
@Ninja7Star 5 жыл бұрын
I agree to a certain extent. But when I was in basic training, everyone left stronger and conditioned from what they were before. You would be surprised how many people can’t do a proper push up or run 2 miles under 13 minutes. Depending on what MOS, I don’t think all soldiers need to squat over 300.
@ammovette
@ammovette 5 жыл бұрын
AF Leadership needs to see this video!
@wafflesmcgallagher934
@wafflesmcgallagher934 2 жыл бұрын
I was in and our platoon did runs every week of about 4-6mi with various other days with shorter distances in it and ruck marches on a specific day of around 4-6mi. Our entire platoon had shin splints.
@btmar
@btmar 2 жыл бұрын
My shins were swollen all through basic training from the amount of running and rucking
@runningbreymedina1475
@runningbreymedina1475 3 жыл бұрын
So when you need to run to something or run from danger, the person who is faster is going to get there or out first. Our primordial ancestors ran.
@orthellen4193
@orthellen4193 5 жыл бұрын
Endurance > Strength in the military!
@andrewlindgren2650
@andrewlindgren2650 5 жыл бұрын
Endurance helps because most training is centered on endurance. I'd rather be fast as fuck for a short distance while carrying a big dude on my back with kit than run a sub 18 minute 3 mile.
@digs1223
@digs1223 5 жыл бұрын
@@andrewlindgren2650 I'd prefer to be mediocre at both. I think some sort of hybrid way of training has to be preferable than either/or.
@juncruz3685
@juncruz3685 5 жыл бұрын
Digs 1 yup crossfit is a kind of example of that hybrid
@Rangerfan-gz1rx
@Rangerfan-gz1rx 5 жыл бұрын
Strength improves endurance
@randomnameindeed
@randomnameindeed 3 жыл бұрын
@@Rangerfan-gz1rx No, it doesn't. If anything, it's more the other way around.
@singh2702
@singh2702 10 ай бұрын
Sprinting makes you stronger 💪
@bobsacramano2263
@bobsacramano2263 6 ай бұрын
If you want to be a better runner, then run. If you want to be stronger, then strength train. If you want to perform well in most activities, be healthy, and look good, then do both.
@andrewlindgren2650
@andrewlindgren2650 5 жыл бұрын
My personal experience is the more heavy rucking and long distance endurance is emphasized, the more guys seem to be injured and ineffictive. Getting all the guys in a platoon to squat x2 bw should be a higher priority than ruck runs, just my 2 cents.
@randomnameindeed
@randomnameindeed 3 жыл бұрын
Lifting would also cause injuries. All physical activity can cause injury.
@Pope2501
@Pope2501 Жыл бұрын
What are the adaptations that occur in the three runs you've observed people do before their running test?
@monkeybrain162
@monkeybrain162 4 жыл бұрын
Do power lifters win races or mma fights? They would gas out in One minute. Conditioning is most important. Strength is good but it is the least important physical component.
@Un1t276
@Un1t276 3 жыл бұрын
That’s a half truth. Depends on the weight class. Lighter people generally have better cardio, bigger people tend to have less. It’s not that cut and dry sadly. There’s a lot more to it than just your style of training.
@gunnierunner1
@gunnierunner1 5 жыл бұрын
Strength training was the best thing for me as a very weak Marine. A big mistake I made while in the Marine Corps was only lifting weights and trying to only improve on the 4 lifts. I could sprint better and do explosive movements well but rucking/hiking and other endurance events would have me breathing like I only had half a lung. It wasn't until I implemented body weight conditioning and started doing MMA that I started to finally feel physically well rounded.
@fabioq6916
@fabioq6916 5 жыл бұрын
Well said Jay. What you are saying is PRECISELY how I see things from a lot of related experience.
@Magneticlaw
@Magneticlaw 3 жыл бұрын
Both Arthur Jones and Mike Mentzer made this very point as well - it is perfectly logical. As I tell people about running - I'd rather be training to sprint, as it has practical applications - if miles are involved, I'll get in my truck or call a cab.🚕
@jameshorton5395
@jameshorton5395 2 жыл бұрын
He's talking about the military. A platoon trained by this guy will have problems on the battlefield if their vehicle is stalled,need to clear buildings, maneuver through rugged terrain or have mobility in combat vehicles designed for average weight guys🤣
@jimbones155
@jimbones155 5 жыл бұрын
It's an interesting idea, but the drill sergeants don't care how strong or fast the recruits are, because their main goal is to form a cohesive group that will take and obey orders and can shoot the M16 accurately. The standard for fitness is a fairly low bar for basic training. It might get tougher after that for the Marines and Navy Seals, but it's all based on standards that can be achieved as a group. Not sure how strength training would fit the mold. Perhaps after basic training when they have more time and a gym to go to.
@bigbeefy2332
@bigbeefy2332 5 жыл бұрын
Ummmm I can bench 350, squat only 400, deadlift 500, military press 215, and do 5 pullups with 100 pounds, but I damn sure cant run 5 miles. I'm 5'10, 195 pounds at 15% body fat.
@Rangerfan-gz1rx
@Rangerfan-gz1rx 5 жыл бұрын
Can’t or just too lazy?
@fabioq6916
@fabioq6916 5 жыл бұрын
@@Rangerfan-gz1rx Now you demonstrate just how thick you are matey. You have been arguing all this time that ALL YOU NEED to be able to run well is strngth training. Now someone shows you very advanced stats in lifting (extremely good stats) but says he cant run five miles and your answer is that he is "lazy". You dont even realise how you shot yourself in the foot, so dumb are you.
@Paininabox1325
@Paininabox1325 5 жыл бұрын
Have you tried it?
@fabioq6916
@fabioq6916 5 жыл бұрын
@@Paininabox1325 who are you talking to? And if it's the poster who said he can lift but not run, hasn't he already answered you?
@Paininabox1325
@Paininabox1325 5 жыл бұрын
@@fabioq6916 I was asking the poster, I was curious if he had tried it and proved it, or if he was just guessing at his conditioning. I don't think he'd be as good as a cross country runner or something, but I suspect he'd be able to finish 5 miles with a decent time at least, with those numbers. I'm trying to gauge the carry-over from strength to conditioning.
@ioncasu1993
@ioncasu1993 5 жыл бұрын
so, do I have to run or not? im confused
@ManpreetSingh-fy6hw
@ManpreetSingh-fy6hw 5 жыл бұрын
You are right. Previously i was doing 12 mins for 1 mile after 1.5months of strength training now i do the same distance in 10 mins. Squatting does wonders. Also I was able to do a 11mile hike without any prep impromtu.
@fabioq6916
@fabioq6916 5 жыл бұрын
And yet the SAS are basically long distance runners. Eliminating endurance training from the military makes ZERO sense. Adding some specific strength? Fine but endurance is WAY to important to denigrate it the way Rip appears to here. And hand to hand combat? I know a thing or two about that as an Olympic boxing coach. Let me tell you, aerobic (and anaerobic) fitness is paramount (not so much long distance however). Strength is secondary but still important.
@fabioq6916
@fabioq6916 5 жыл бұрын
@The Spook Who Sat By The Door Err... how about where he says several times in other videos that you don't need to run since you get better at running just by strength training? I watch a lot of Rip videos and usually love what he says but he has a tendency to "rip" into things in an exaggerated fashion to make a point. If he really wants to say the Army should just incorporate (more) strength training into their PT then he can say so without trashing running to the extent he does in such a deliberately condescending manner when he is no expert in military training. I watched a frankly bizarre video where he went on about how modern infantry are basically driven to battle so why train to run? I don't need to tell you how that argument contradicts what you are saying here (or how ignorant about effective infantry operations that is). So I guess it should be me shaking my head. If you cant run long distances carrying a heavy pack cross country while orienteering in shit weather over mountains you will NEVER make it in the SAS. If you NEVER train to run you will never pass that test. PERIOD. The SAS know a lot more about infantry training than Rip. And this is the guy who spent a whole video telling people to grip the bar using only your fingers to avoid callouses on your palm which will develop into a serious problem when they pull off while lifting. Forgetting of course that you can simply remove callouses with a blade whenever you like. You know, like trimming nails? When I suggested that solution online instead of re-engineering your entire lifting grip, guess what? Another chap like you "ripped" into me for questioning the master. I kid you not. Look, I like Rip a lot and his style is usually deliberately gruff and abrasive for effect, but he is not infallible. His political opinions and social views are hardly above reproach either but that's another can of worms: "De gustibus non est disputandum" applies there but when you say Rip doesn't trash running for the military, I'm going to have to call bullshit. That's just not true. He does it all the time and specifically concerning the army. Must I dig out the vids or will you? When Rip talks specifically about strength training he is an extremely good source of almost unparalleled experience. Outside that relatively narrow field he is nowhere near an expert and should not be deemed infallible as too many, shall we say "fanboys", insist. Keep calm matey. Rip is not your God and we can question him and even disagree without you getting all arsey.
@mariettaiviera4252
@mariettaiviera4252 5 жыл бұрын
I always agree with on this one aspect I beg to differ the military Can not be dependent on technology so they should be able to hump for 20 miles daily or more right now their training is biased toward strength it should be the opposite please don’t hate me Mark dialogue breeds inspiration
@pineapplepizza4016
@pineapplepizza4016 4 жыл бұрын
It would seem to me the best form of conditioning would be to train for the actual event. Being able to move quickly with all your gear for extended periods of time would is of the utmost importance. In this environment I don't see where being able to dead lift 400+ is really that beneficial, and it's something you certainly can't maintain while in the field. That's not to say there shouldn't be some degree of strength training. But outside of the gym most people are not listing that amount of weight on a daily biases.
@PucknellProductions
@PucknellProductions 5 жыл бұрын
Shit a 165kg squat in 6 months? Is that possible? 3 years in and im on 162kg
@svmuscle7677
@svmuscle7677 5 жыл бұрын
I can lift a lot of weight... but I am not sure I could run 5 miles lol
@aprlv6732
@aprlv6732 5 жыл бұрын
VMuscle you and me both buddy let’s get better at it I’m gonna start prioritizing cardio
@keithbarbaro7590
@keithbarbaro7590 5 жыл бұрын
@adam roberts why cardio? what will you accomplish?
@svmuscle7677
@svmuscle7677 5 жыл бұрын
@@aprlv6732 solid pass lol
@connorw360
@connorw360 5 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Rip just doesn't like running and has he even been in the military?
@aprlv6732
@aprlv6732 5 жыл бұрын
Keith Barbaro don’t worry about it
@denoffitness3379
@denoffitness3379 4 жыл бұрын
Best strength coach ever period. Love your work. Love from India. Your channel should have atleast 5 million subscribers because of the simple, effective information
@vignesh200
@vignesh200 3 жыл бұрын
Very few know about starting strength in India. No one understands what I do in the gym. Most think I am doing some weightlifting stuff, whatever that means. Although I must say, they are impressed with the weight on the bar. Do you experience the same?
@barryallen767
@barryallen767 Жыл бұрын
@@vignesh200 how much progress have you made?
@nolancapps8654
@nolancapps8654 5 ай бұрын
Infantry Marine weighing in here. I fought in the Helmand province of Afghanistan in 2010. I love Starting Strength and I love barbell training, but this is all wrong. As a foot soldier, you need to be able to carry submaximal loads for long distances. The military trains you for this by making you carry submaximal loads for long distances. In combat, you may need to pick up and move a body. The military trains you for this by making you regularly pick up and move bodies. As a soldier, you don't actually need that much strength, you need great conditioning. The most important physical quality a foot soldier can have is RESISTANCE TO FATIGUE, because you might end up in continuous combat for a full day, 48 hours, maybe more than that. I love to deadlift, but your deadlift max doesn't help you on a twelve hour patrol. Also, I submit that getting jacked makes you A SLIGHTLY LARGER TARGET. The best military training is the running and ruck marches.
@michaeldyer1396
@michaeldyer1396 Жыл бұрын
I agree after 6 months strength training the odd run here and there , I ran 10 miles on my 50th. Birthday, no problem.
@samwelltayrlor
@samwelltayrlor 5 жыл бұрын
I think rucking, sprints, grappling, the sled, swimming, kettle bells and maybe running stairs or hills is better than just doing a jog for endurance
@randomnameindeed
@randomnameindeed 3 жыл бұрын
All of it is good. The jog too. The best is to do a bit of everything.
@temperedwell6295
@temperedwell6295 5 жыл бұрын
Rippetoe's argument is always the same. I squat heavy low bar, so everyone should squat heavy low bar. I am a good deadlifter, so everyone should be a good deadlifter. I don't run, so running is a waste of time. I don't stretch, so stretching is a waste of time. I don' t do yoga, so yoga is a waste of time. I don't play any sports, so sports are a waste of time. Because I don't do much other than powerlifting, I run the risk of losing explosive strength. Therefore, everyone should run the same risk. That is why I power clean and power snatch. Everyone should power clean and power snatch. I don't do the full olympic lifts, so there is no reason for anyone else to. Jimmy Connors, who is about the same age as Rippetoe, was undoubtedly an elite tennis player and appears to be in better shape than Rippetoe. He once said that he never lifted weights because he didn't feel that it would help his tennis game in any way. Draw your own conclusions.
@Paininabox1325
@Paininabox1325 5 жыл бұрын
Why is it unreasonable for people who have an opinion on something being inefficient not to do that thing? If you thought that jumping jacks are bad for your shoulders, would it be reasonable to say that you don't like jumping jacks because you don't do jumping jacks?
@johnbr59
@johnbr59 2 жыл бұрын
Correct. Mark seems to have turned his program and his book into a sort of Bible for physical pursuits - like, the is the one true word of God. If you want to be good at agility sports like running or tennis or football (soccer), then jacking on significant muscle mass through barbell training is not the answer. If you want to be a powelifter or gain mass for American football then maybe. Either that or if you want to be a professional piano mover.
@connorw360
@connorw360 5 жыл бұрын
You still need to be able to run far, what if you were getting shot at and had to run to cover or run fast to save ur friend. Yes I agree there should be strength training in there, so they are getting strong but you still need to be able to run in the army. You just cant be a massive strong meathead. You have to be prepared for anything.
@juncruz3685
@juncruz3685 5 жыл бұрын
james wilson do 531 and run 2x a week what do u say? thats good right? crossfit is kinda a good model
@NuttyElf
@NuttyElf 5 жыл бұрын
That's sprinting. Nobody is long distance running carrying a full load. They are marching. Can a strong ass guy sprint 500 yards with full kit to save and carry out his 200lb buddy? Yes. Can a weaker light speedy guy do the same? Faster??
@connorw360
@connorw360 5 жыл бұрын
@@NuttyElf the majority of stronger guys would be out of breath I'm afraid.
@fabioq6916
@fabioq6916 5 жыл бұрын
@The Spook Who Sat By The Door Nope. I have seen vids where he says running should hardly be done at all, its a waste of time etc. If he was not arguing against running, why would he make the (ridiculous) point that the army drives to battle now anyway so they dont need to run?
@connorw360
@connorw360 5 жыл бұрын
@The Spook Who Sat By The Door All I'm saying is, it is very hard to get stronger maintain it while in the army and still stay super fit etc. You have to eat alot and sleep alot, something you won't be doing alot in combat
@oliverallen5324
@oliverallen5324 5 жыл бұрын
Land Nav, Survival, BJJ, Strength(barbell) Training, marksmanship. , leadership.
@FirstTimeHigh-cz2ro
@FirstTimeHigh-cz2ro Жыл бұрын
I’m gona have to strongly disagree with an average person able to squat 365 in 6months of training. I don’t think the average person is squatting even 275 with 6months of training. With proper form of course.
@ejay1474
@ejay1474 4 жыл бұрын
Quotation from the book “ultimate back Fitness and performance” by Stuart McGill, PhD: Myth: getting stronger always makes a better athlete I have heard many strength coaches say that getting stronger always makes a better athlete. The readily available evidence in my experience challenges this. Muscle activation creates muscle force and stiffness such that pulsing strength becomes more linked to skilled performance. For example many universities strength programs slow down a running back sprint time over their four years after high school. I have seen badminton teams strength trained, Causing them to be slower and with higher injury rates. Is Strength a variable that will improve badminton performance or was this the only tool the strength coach had in their coaching skills? How much strength does a badminton player or for that matter a n MMC fighter need? As noted, the record holders in the NFL combine strength tests rarely make it in the NFL. However, being stronger is better for “slow strength” sport like powerlifting. For this Strength Sport, strengthening the wink link almost always improve performance. But this concept requires more consideration for many other sports. Speed comes from the ability to relax a muscle more quickly. Golf, sprinting, jumping, throwing, striking, and explosively changing a body position strategy is usually compromised with more strength and related muscle stiffness. The elastic athletes suffer with more pure strength. A power lifter can never confidently throw a football and a quarterback was never trained like a power lifter. Instead the concept of sufficient strength becomes more important after measuring many great athletes in a wide variety of athletic performance is the strongest athletes usually are not the best scoring athletes instead they have sufficient strength while the other physical and mental attributes dominate for example the athletes who can create more hip power and then to the elasticity throughout the linkage with timed muscle pulses will hit harder when I measure strikeforce in the UFC it is not the best benchpressers who hit the hardest, it is the more lanky physique who have sufficient strength and skilled muscle pulse timing to create effective mass at the time of impact. This is also true of golf and jumping into some extent Olympic lifting. Interestingly, the strongest are not the most injury resilient for two reasons. In the effort to create more strength is more risk. And exertion of their strength during play can overload supporting tissues. Again there is a sweet spot in terms of sufficient strength. Strength must be balanced with the elasticity, range of motion, and the techniques to steer forces through the body. The trick is to seek the optimum Of all these variables to enhance the specific athletic goal. Do you want to rely Mark or Stuart McGill with your body? I’m going with McGill. You do what you want. The point is very simple, chapter 2 or 3 of every personal trainer certification course: specific adaptation to imposed demands, SAID. Rippetoe has been glorifying barbells as the be all Aend all for every mode of strength expression. This is simply bad advice for many people who endeavor to do a different kind of athletic expression. To give much deserved credit, Starting Strength is one of, or perhaps *the* most important and informative books on lifting weights ever published. It is a masterpiece and I have changed my life from what Mark wrote in that book. The problem and the complaint is that he has taken it to a point beyond it’s boundary. The Human body is extremely complex and requires a wide range of training modes and stresses customized to specific activities. Squatting, dead lifting, bench pressing etc. can all be incorporated into a strength training program but need to be balanced with the specific needs that that athlete has and the capacity of that athletes body to withstand forces. Train smart before you train hard
@radreynolds8978
@radreynolds8978 Жыл бұрын
Mark and "getting stronger" is the embodiment of "when all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail".
@jd0879
@jd0879 2 жыл бұрын
I have a 395 deadlift, 335 squat, 250 bench and 155 press. I can def not run 8+ km (5 miles) consistently without taking breaks. You have to practice your sport to get good at it which in this case someone needs to practice running to be able to run 5 miles. I usually don’t disagree with Rip but I do here
@johnbr59
@johnbr59 2 жыл бұрын
Lifting heavy makes you good at lifting heavy. Strength in raw terms Agility sports like running or tennis or football (soccer) are a totally different thing. You have to practice those pursuits to be good at them, and carrying too much weight/muscle mass is counter productive Humans as animals have evolved to be nimble, dextrous, and intelligent, at the cost of raw strength. We're not gorillas. But try telling that to Rippetoe
@rick.bernal
@rick.bernal 5 жыл бұрын
Running is more than strength, there is technique as well. Running will strengthen your heart, your mind, and your will. Fight and flight are intrinsically linked.
@santim2341
@santim2341 5 жыл бұрын
If strength were the thing, Mr universe should be running 8 flats in the 100. Doesn't help
@zaner11b8
@zaner11b8 4 жыл бұрын
That's not strength, that's bodybuilding. Think of a olympic decathlete they are strong and powerful but are able to run 1 mile in under 5 minutes and sprint a 100 in 10 sec. Bodybuilding is gaining muscle mass and size. Meaning they are heavier.
@guilhermegarcia8750
@guilhermegarcia8750 4 жыл бұрын
@@zaner11b8 bodybuilding is useless
@jameshorton5395
@jameshorton5395 2 жыл бұрын
@@guilhermegarcia8750 wrong, it gets me laid.
@JH-dr6do
@JH-dr6do 2 жыл бұрын
I think people here are misunderstanding (either intentionally or unintentionally) what Rip is getting at. He is saying that the military would benefit from implementing a strength training program as part of basic training, to bring recruits up to a baseline level of strength. People here love to misinterpret that as him saying all recruits should be sloppy fat 300lbs powerlifters.
@dime4026
@dime4026 5 жыл бұрын
I followed your program for 6 months. I have never been stronger in my life. However I never got any fitness from it.
@tyler7992
@tyler7992 5 жыл бұрын
Did you get to a 365 squat in those 6 months? Seems a little high. Maybe after a year or 1.5 years for that
@Rangerfan-gz1rx
@Rangerfan-gz1rx 5 жыл бұрын
This comment doesn’t make any sense at all. “I’ve never been stronger in my life but never got any fitness from it” do people not understand that strength is a huge part of fitness?
@sheadoherty7434
@sheadoherty7434 5 жыл бұрын
@@Rangerfan-gz1rx A huge part, but not the whole pie. Fitness is more than strength and strength-endurance. I thought because I could squat 140kg for 5x10 I was fit, then I boxed.
@dime4026
@dime4026 5 жыл бұрын
@@tyler7992 no I didn't my best was 151kg at a weight of 122kg.
@fabioq6916
@fabioq6916 5 жыл бұрын
@@Rangerfan-gz1rx It is "A" part. Not a huge part. Fitness incorporates many forms of athletic ability. You can be extremely strong and not be described by anyone with a sound and reasonable mind as "fit" if you cant run a mile or climb stairs without wheezing and have the heart of a 90 year old. Conversely I would always describe someone who is cardiovascularly in great shape but of below average strength as fit. This may be semantics but to me "fit" is more correlated to cardiovascular ability. If you mean "strong" say "strong". Strength and cardiovascular fitness are only loosely correlated no matter what Rip may tell you.
@aychar
@aychar 3 жыл бұрын
Can't believe how obviously wrong this is, most guys that lift and do no cardio couldn't run for 5 minutes let alone 5 miles.
@jameshorton5395
@jameshorton5395 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly🤣. His message is completely wrong especially for the military.
@MyTruth1771
@MyTruth1771 5 жыл бұрын
For the life of me I can't find an answer to this question. With sets of 5, what is more beneficial as an example. A. 100 lbs for 3 reps to failure and then 2 more reps at 90 lbs. OR B. A complete set of 5 reps at 95 Seems to me A is better such that you should be lifting above you ability to complete the whole 5 reps and then increase your reps to a complete set of 5 from there. Rip?
@Rangerfan-gz1rx
@Rangerfan-gz1rx 5 жыл бұрын
You shouldn’t be going to failure. Ever.
@MyTruth1771
@MyTruth1771 5 жыл бұрын
@@Rangerfan-gz1rx never!? OK. What about 2 reps at 90 and before failing do 3 reps at 80 or 5 reps at 85. ?
@haczabim
@haczabim 4 жыл бұрын
This is obvious for anyone who's lifted. But for those in power positions in the military who haven't, it would force them to admit they've been doing it wrong for so long, and that they don't want to do.
@randomnameindeed
@randomnameindeed 3 жыл бұрын
I think you underestimate the military. In the military endurance is king. It doesn't matter how much you can squat or dealift, if you never run you're going to suck at it. If you want to improve at running you should run. It's common sense. Rip is willing to make up any excuse so he doesn't have to get his lazy ass off the couch and go for a run.
@haczabim
@haczabim 3 жыл бұрын
@@randomnameindeed I don't think much of the military or from people in general
@randomnameindeed
@randomnameindeed 3 жыл бұрын
@@haczabim That's fair enough. Rip's still wrong though.
@CoryFalde175
@CoryFalde175 Жыл бұрын
Running fast and far is more mental than physical, and it is required in combat. Infantrymen need to know in their mind that they can run a long, long way very quickly. I agree that strength training with weights would be better than standard Army PT, but infantrymen have got to run far, fast, and often.
@ChrisJ294
@ChrisJ294 5 жыл бұрын
Soldiers need endurance and agility and good bodyweight strength. They fire guns, they don't need a 300lb bench.
@TheGreatOldOak
@TheGreatOldOak 5 жыл бұрын
Squatting, deadlifting, pressing and pull ups which makes you stronger makes you have no endurance, agility or body weight strength? How much do you squat?
@ChrisJ294
@ChrisJ294 5 жыл бұрын
@@TheGreatOldOak Never said they stop you having those things. But you're better off training for those things. I'll take a 175lbs Marine Commando who can run 10 miles with a load of kit on his back, over someone who can squat 400 lbs but puff and pants and sweats like a pig when he tries to run over 3 miles.
@TheGreatOldOak
@TheGreatOldOak 5 жыл бұрын
How about a 200lb man that can squat 400lb for five reps and march 10 miles with 100lb pack easier than any weaker collegue and suffer less chronic injury as a result of being unprepared for carrying a heavy load? Does anyone actually run 10 miles with a 100lb pack? How weak of a squat do you want your 175lb marine commando to be before he deploys? 200lbs? 400lbs? Which is better to develop the body for marching with a heavy back pack?
@ChrisJ294
@ChrisJ294 5 жыл бұрын
@@TheGreatOldOak the guy who spends time marching with the pack on handles it better than the guy who spends that time squatting. And waddling around with 25lbs more bodyweight than you need wears your joints out. No one cares about how much you can squat on the battlefield. It's about getting from a to b quickly then putting rounds down when you get there.
@mcluhansalem7547
@mcluhansalem7547 2 жыл бұрын
Who can run after this ?!
@roydavies4287
@roydavies4287 2 жыл бұрын
My guess is that there is not enough manpower to teach these skills in basic. When i went through basic in australia the recruit instructors didnt have the training to teach technical skills like squat, deadlift, press. And we only saw proper PTIs a couple times through the whole process. We did one session where they taught us to bench, squat, deadlift and press but we were way too busy learning how to use and clean weapons, do first aid, fieldcraft etc etc to devote any mental energy to retaining the knowledge of how to deadlift correctly. Anything which wasn't being assessed got shit-piled in my head almost immediately. It would have been great to begin strength training in basic but not realistic without a heap more money per recruit
@MrRolyat98
@MrRolyat98 5 жыл бұрын
Rip is oversimplifying this IMO. The contestants in the WSM competitions are all strong but none of them look like they could move very fast for very long. Rip even admits that at a certain point, conditioning needs to be addressed which is why he recommends prowler sled work. I guess the argument could be raised of who is more useful during combat operations: the marathon runner or the power lifter?
@Rangerfan-gz1rx
@Rangerfan-gz1rx 5 жыл бұрын
Nobody is talking about powerlifting, if you think that a 400lbs deadlift, 350 squat and 150 overhead press are powerlifting than you need to educate yourself on strength and conditioning before you discuss this. those numbers are nowhere near requiring strength specialization to hit those numbers.
@fabioq6916
@fabioq6916 5 жыл бұрын
How about a combination of the two? Which is where Rip seems to always be a polarising effect. He cant seem to make the point that the military should include more strength training without simultaneously trashing running and endurance
@fabioq6916
@fabioq6916 5 жыл бұрын
@@Rangerfan-gz1rx For the purpose of this discussion, please explain why the previous poster's analogy was invalid, mutatis mutandis? What difference do the technical differences between what you call strength training and powerlifting make to his argument? None is the answer.
@MrRolyat98
@MrRolyat98 5 жыл бұрын
Rangerfan 2019 I was actually just generalizing. The squat, the deadlift, and the bench press (and to a lesser degree the overhead press) are generally associated with powerlifting. How does your comment negate anything I say? If Rip’s answer to everything is “just get stronger”, how does he explain the fat asses that can bench 350 lbs falling over and passing out climbing three flights of steps? Conditioning still needs to be addressed. Hence his recommendation of prowler work.
@zebady999
@zebady999 Жыл бұрын
The running is because on the battlefield the infantry run bout alot.
@jamesbrown5262
@jamesbrown5262 2 жыл бұрын
Starting strength is great. I thought Rip was a good guy that changed after listening to him some.
@crankymcgee
@crankymcgee 5 жыл бұрын
Allow recruits to eat big and sleep big while you're at it
@gregpettis1113
@gregpettis1113 Жыл бұрын
I think push-ups make you stronger
@dennisbarrett6148
@dennisbarrett6148 4 жыл бұрын
Damn it! If you march and belly crawl, throw grenades and fight with pugil sticks " you ain't doing the program"
@MisdemeanorThoughts
@MisdemeanorThoughts 4 жыл бұрын
When I was deployed to Iraq I started squatting and deadlifting, starting with a measly 225lbs. Didn’t bench (although I should have) I immediately shaved 40 seconds off of my run. Then I moved to 315lbs. Shaved another 20ish seconds. That was 2010. Seriously. I became a believer in strength training. Then I tore a ham (not lifting related) and ended my deployment in pain. But after keeping with strength training I’m up to deadlifting 635lbs and squatting 525lbs. And my measly bench went to 385lbs (still measly) But I can still run! And I’m 275lbs body weight now. And at 275 I should be squatting in the 700’s and deadlifting in the same. But I’m not competing. So. I’m happy where I’m at. Mark is right about this. And this is coming from a soldier.
@bryanfong1023
@bryanfong1023 3 жыл бұрын
How realistic is to being able to squat 365 lbs and deadlift 405 lbs in six months? Ive been training for 3 months and my squat is 250 lbs and deadlift is 330 lbs, i dont really see myself to be able to get those numbers in 6 months.
@IronMilkMan
@IronMilkMan Жыл бұрын
What are your numbers now?
@bryanfong1023
@bryanfong1023 Жыл бұрын
@@IronMilkMan squat 335 lbs and dl 450 lbs
@IronMilkMan
@IronMilkMan Жыл бұрын
@@bryanfong1023 nice
@johanhansson4574
@johanhansson4574 3 жыл бұрын
Bench press is the most dysfunctional exercise one can do because you lying on a bench and in real life you have to stabilize the rest of the body including the scapular muscles. Lying on the bench the scap is supported by the bench. So you can bench 100reds of kilos but the scapula can support nothing. When doing pushups you train all of that to. Just put a weight on your back when it gets to easy. Doing pushups properly isn't that easy by the way. It's those 1inch ones that are.
@MrAzzhloe
@MrAzzhloe 5 жыл бұрын
4:23 I might be this kid that supposedly doesn't exist. I am 23, 5'11", and I weigh 220 pounds. I have pressed 170, squatted 405, and and deadlifted 485. I get winded if I walk slightly uphill for a few minutes.
@nomongosinthaworld
@nomongosinthaworld 5 жыл бұрын
Many people like you exist actually, especially in the powerlifting community. He is being completely delusional here
@gofityourself1
@gofityourself1 2 жыл бұрын
It takes a month to build the conditioning to run 5 miles. And if you take a month off you will lose that ability. It takes years to accumulate strength, and you could take a decade off and still retain quite a bit of that strength. Take 6 months and get strong as shit, THEN train your little run. It's not complicated. I rehab soldiers every day with bad hips and knees because the military literally "runs" them into the ground with no strength base to speak of.
@Vladimyrful
@Vladimyrful 5 жыл бұрын
It would be EXTREMELY expensive though.
@Rangerfan-gz1rx
@Rangerfan-gz1rx 5 жыл бұрын
It would greatly decrease injuries which would save a lot of money? Do you have any idea how much the military spends on back injuries each year simply because soldiers have weak backs and are always getting injured? A 400lbs deadlift would solve this problem.
@Vladimyrful
@Vladimyrful 5 жыл бұрын
@@Rangerfan-gz1rx Barbells? weights? competent coaches to supervise? weight rooms?(500 soldiers Can just go out in a field and do pushups, how many Men Can u fit in to a normal gym?) Lifting weight causes injury too sometimes, especially unsupervised? I could go on but this alone would increase costs manyfold. Just how many squat racks would you need so EVERY soldier can train? There are a LOT of soliders in the US military. But I agree that proper training would result in reduced injury, we agree on that one.
@mykhalable9433
@mykhalable9433 5 жыл бұрын
Considering the military believes a woman who can do 30 pushups in 2 minutes is qualified to train male and female members how to do pushups I seriously doubt the military will ever adopt strength training.
@fabioq6916
@fabioq6916 5 жыл бұрын
Just what sort of PHD do you think is required to teach someone how to do a pushup? If someone can't figure it out from a 30 second video on youtube then they, not the Army, are a bit dim. What a stupid thing to write on a forum! I can teach a person to teach push ups in 1 minute and so can you if you think about it for a moment and they have an IQ above 75. But I get it, the key phrase in your post is "woman". For some reason we can only guess at, it's the fact that its a woman that bothers you. And also, for some strange reason you think the volume and speed with which someone does things affects their ability to teach the action and technique. Tell me how that works? Then tell me how Gus D'Amato could train Mike Tyson while in his seventies. Try again genius.
@mykhalable9433
@mykhalable9433 5 жыл бұрын
@@fabioq6916 You apparently have never served in the military so let me explain. The military treats women as a weaker sex than men and allows their maxout standards for the physical fitness test to be the bare minimum for men. It takes about 3 weeks to get someone good enough to do 30 pushups if they have never done one before. In 3 weeks how much knowledge do you think this person has on training others? And as for my statement on women, it takes different training in order to get someone to be able to do 30 pushups in 2 minutes as opposed to the 92 pushups a man would need to do to maxout. As for 75 IQ... most women doing pushups in the military do not do them correctly and they don't have to optimize their form because with the poor form they use it is possible to still do around 30-50. Women military members tend to put their hands way too far out in front of their head. Is this who you want to teach someone who has to do 44 in order to just pass? The military does not care how good you are at training but what your score is. A woman who does 13 pushups scored the same as a man who did 44 so both are just as equally able too train others (of course these are the bare minimal so they wouldn't be training anyone).
@GeEked008
@GeEked008 5 жыл бұрын
The new Army PT test is the same for everyone regardless of gender and age. As it should be.
@nomongosinthaworld
@nomongosinthaworld 5 жыл бұрын
your idea of strength training does not do shit for endurance
@Rangerfan-gz1rx
@Rangerfan-gz1rx 5 жыл бұрын
Yes it does, you are just ignorant about strength and conditioning.
@fabioq6916
@fabioq6916 5 жыл бұрын
@@Rangerfan-gz1rx Have you ever tried ONLY doing starting strength and NO OTHER form of conditioning to compare that to a more rounded athletic protocol? No. So what do you know? I can tell you that anyone in my Boxing and MMA gym doing starting strength programmes and NOTHING ELSE for their training, would never be a winner in any combat sport. So quit talking as if you have found the holy grail of exercise programs for anything other than lifting heavy weights in half a dozen movements. You clearly have very limited knowledge and experience.
@Paininabox1325
@Paininabox1325 5 жыл бұрын
@@fabioq6916 How do people who mostly do strength work perform if they do some conditioning for a few weeks leading up to it? Is their failure due to technique failures, or just gassing out?
@fabioq6916
@fabioq6916 5 жыл бұрын
@@Paininabox1325 it's a good question. To be fair, most of them are so utterly put off by the shock of it they drop out. Ego etc. Also, I suspect that psychologically they are too entrenched in their strength regime to change, especially if it means compromising their strength training. Yes, you can improve dramatically in a "few" weeks but to achieve a competitive level from a low cardio base? Nah. That takes MUCH longer. Especially if you bring in weight class issues that mean they need to go down a weight class or two to be competitive. The absolute 1RM strength loss that requires is something they often can't get their head around. Are you suggesting that an athlete can powerlift with no cardio for years and then run a bit for a few weeks and be a competitive fighter? Nope. Not gonna happen. And technique and cardio are inextricably linked in boxing and MMA. You just can't really train the techniques without actually doing it for real which requires decent cardio so the issue is somewhat moot.
@Paininabox1325
@Paininabox1325 5 жыл бұрын
@@fabioq6916 Yeah, I agree that a strength trained person will not achieve high levels of conditioning after a few weeks. I don't know about using this example, however, when arguing against strength training for cardio, because, like you said, the weight classes have a big effect. In the military example, you're not going to really ensure your guys are the same weight class as the enemy. In your experience, were the strength trained people fighting in or close to the same weight class as the opponent, or were they against varied weights? Also, if these people were somehow, magically, as skilled, would they have fared better (based on technique alone)?
@timmyhassett
@timmyhassett 11 ай бұрын
Audio quality is poor.
@jameshorton5395
@jameshorton5395 2 жыл бұрын
He wants to build a military full of buff dudes with no flexibility,stamina and speed. Amazing 🤣
@chekvb
@chekvb 3 жыл бұрын
I doubt that "any kid" can go from nothing to 365 squat within six months.
@arganth
@arganth 5 жыл бұрын
As much as I like Rip but him saying that an average guy can go from no deadlift to 405 in 6 months.... I dont know ^^ When i look around my gym the average guy does definitely not lift 405 ^^ and if you compare that to sites like strength standards (exrx.net/Testing/WeightLifting/DeadliftStandards) a guy whos maybe 180 lbl would about be in "advanced" which the site itself ranks as "An individual who has trained multiple years." think rip has a very different view on "average"
@MrStrutxD
@MrStrutxD 5 жыл бұрын
the squat is more retarded, its easier to dl 405 than it is to squat 365
@IRISHSALTMINER61
@IRISHSALTMINER61 5 жыл бұрын
The Infantry still have to advance to contact, even mechanised infantry. You do not want to be in a convenient metal target on the enemies prepared ground. Anti tank spoils the most well prepared assault.. So fit young (men) soldiers on their boots and chin straps is the order of the day. Armour is all well and good until you meet an enemy defence in depth, then all bets are off.. The stronger you are, the more robust the attack.. Speed Aggression Superiority of fire power... God bless you Mr Rippetoe..
@pradgarimella
@pradgarimella Жыл бұрын
RIght, milataries all over the world should abandon their time tested programs and adapt Starting Strength right lol
@WilzonTovar
@WilzonTovar 2 жыл бұрын
Allows you to run what? Faster? Well increasing your speed endurance helps you doing such. Is it knee pain free? The last you want to do is squat as heavy as you can. You just want to sell your program.
@jaredhemingway6078
@jaredhemingway6078 8 ай бұрын
Ol Rip, at it again spewing bullshit. No one that can press 150, squat 365 and deadlift 405 will complete 5 miles of running straight (lets say 12 or less minute pace which is far from fast) UNLESS they also run some. Does strength help you run further and faster (assuming you’re fully recovered)? Absolutely BUT running anything beyond a couple miles straight requires cardiovascular strength well beyond what his program provides.
@Witcherworks
@Witcherworks 5 жыл бұрын
Rip, you run to become more efficient at running. You squat to become more efficient at squatting. The equation is If This than That. Not If This then That and This. I like to see you run 5 miles in a reasonable time for your age. Don't you deadlift 405?
@fleggaroo
@fleggaroo 3 жыл бұрын
Strong, fat people will argue 5 miles is hard. Thats dieting issues though.
@santim2341
@santim2341 5 жыл бұрын
Heavy squats, deadlifts injuries too risky. I went through jarhead training
@guilhermegarcia8750
@guilhermegarcia8750 4 жыл бұрын
You avatar speaks for itself
@mattzilla331
@mattzilla331 5 жыл бұрын
"Pushups don't make you stronger" you must of never seen any of these calisthenics feats of strength.
@andrewlindgren2650
@andrewlindgren2650 5 жыл бұрын
Nobody does that shit at bootcamp, learning new advanced variations of calisthenics are more demanding technique wise than adding plates to a bar.
@lavampire100
@lavampire100 3 жыл бұрын
about time that someone says what needs to be said.
@skanda1832
@skanda1832 Жыл бұрын
An hour of yoga before dawn, half an hour of strength training in the afternoon and you’ll be a happy camper for life.
@wesleydeyton203
@wesleydeyton203 5 жыл бұрын
Stick to teaching strength training techniques. You have no idea how the military works
@jameshorton5395
@jameshorton5395 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly, this guy is nuts😂🤣🤣
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