Student Pilot's Illegal Flight Gets Wife Killed!

[@seancole22]

The guy also had 2 felony DUI’s, 3 additional misdemeanour DUI’s totalling 5 since 2007. He spent time in jail for getting DUI’s while on probation for previous ones. In 2019 he was charged again for violating probation and refusing to attend court ordered AA meetings. It would have been criminal to issue him a license, his student license should have been revoked and his reckless indifference is mind numbing and made his outcome inevitable.

[@flycatchful]

You did a background check and found all this information. I wonder if the FAA did something similar.

[@GoshenOatley]

Revoking a piece of paper is meaningless at this level of self-destructive behavior. Regulations are for people who obey them. You can't legislate proper behavior and there is no cure for people who never left their childhood behind. Well, actually there is a cure. A close call that scares them straight. Souls on board have to survive to reflect on the terror.

[@johnnunn8688]

@@flycatchfulI doubt that. They don’t seem too bright.

[@rranger1014]

@@GoshenOatley This!

[@rranger1014]

Wow holy sheet

[@talreichert587]

Fat wallet, big ego syndrome. Would have been easy for him to hire a commercial pilot who would fly him around, but he opted to go to the danger zone instead. Tragic outcome but not a surprising one.

[@desdicadoric]

Sad that he took his wife with him

[@BSDLLC]

That, and..... "CHAD".

[@jefar53]

Exactly

[@905Alive]

exactly, Texas ? probably a Trumper, stupid rules and regs, they don't apply to me, they're stupid, taking my rights, I GOT THE RIGHT TO...!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@afriendlyfaceinthecrowd]

@@talreichert587 Agreed. His flight instructor noted that Chad was anti-authority and I reckon that Chad was also a thrill seeker. Danger Zone pilot is an evocative phrase that you’ve used.

[@WALTERBROADDUS]

So...... a 40 year old acting like a 16 year old on a learner's permit with a Mustang? 😒🛩

[@MrWolfSnack]

And in a 40 year old airplane that already has a predisposition to having the wings snap off when subject to abuse by pilots that think they are Tom Cruise in a F-18 knifing through supercells.

[@WALTERBROADDUS]

@MrWolfSnack based on this video money does not buy brains? 🧠 Sadly, cost the life of an innocent person.

[@SFbayArea94121]

A moose 🫎 tang

[@BKJP1998]

Hey hey hey. Easy with the Mustang comments. Some of us can drive. 😂

[@SWAFanPilot]

I happen to be a 16 year old with my learners permit... and a I'm also student pilot 😂

[@behrens97]

Narcisism and money is probably the most dangerous combination on this planet

[@Carlos44]

Yep! So true also in this year's presidential election.

[@ninjalectualx]

You'll either end up dead or literally President of the US 😭

[@rockitsurjon8629]

​@@Carlos44way to make that happen buddy.

[@beckydoesit9331]

Had a similar thing happen to me. I was flying my husband and myself to Vegas in a 182, just like these guys, when we ran out of fuel shortly leaving the airport out of New Mexico (don't remember the city). Gary died as a result of the crash. Sad. But it didn't stop me from wanting to get back in the clouds. Now I'm remarried in an even better marriage. Almost like the crash was a blessing in disguise!

[@robertcambareri1028]

On the road, and in the skies.

[@Zzyzzyx]

You are one of the best KZbinrs in any video genre. No wasted words, no wasted time, all the facts.

[@Capecodham]

The clear opposite of Mentour Pilot.

[@pimacanyon6208]

totally agree. I'm really glad to see his channel growing the way it is. I would love to have him as my pilot on the rare occasions that I fly commercially!

[@SteveToes-b4f]

He sucks

[@johnnunn8688]

@@SteveToes-b4fpot calling kettle, over.

[@ninjalectualx]

Nah, Hoover has a ridiculous focus on attractive young white women who crashed. Really sours the whole channel a bit

[@robinj.9329]

The greatest compliment I ever received was when, just before my PP check ride, one of the CFI's where I was flying shook my hand and said "Your one of the most cautious Students I've ever seen. You should have a long career ahead of you!" Made me feel like I was indeed LEARNING and understanding the responsibility that a Pilot takes on.

[@Waynep1066]

Yep, check, check and check again. I'm almost OCD when it comes to safety & planning but it's that one time when one says, ah, 'just this once' that bites yah.

[@matthewrammig]

Yep, that’s the kind of pilot we all want to be

[@FNigslol]

Wow you are really stupid. What a brain dead comment

[@wildatheart3182]

That's the definition of my husband. I'd fly with him any day of the week he chose because I know his checklist is complete and safe. 👍

[@hansbrackhaus8017]

I want a PP check ride too... it's been so long.

[@msromike123]

Sad to say the FAA seems correct when they denied his medical on the basis of a personality disorder.

[@desdicadoric]

He should have just stayed on the ground and bought a Porsche or something

[@Heathcoatman]

Getting cleared by the FAA is a privilege, not a right. 'Anti-Authority' is usually a euphemism for 'entitled and narcissistic'.

[@ZIGZAGBureauofInvestigation]

NoMAN is Above the LAW

[@Mrbfgray]

Amazes me how many folks need to medicate themselves for every mood swing.

[@Ea-Nasir_Copper_Co]

@@HeathcoatmanAlso often paranoid.

[@recoilrob324]

Back in the early '90's I knew some guys from Piper and asked about all the Malibu crashes that seemed to be happening often. They said "Guys buy a million dollar 'All Weather' aircraft and think they can fly through storms". More money than experience or competence.

[@kengerace]

Well said. We call them Dr and lawyer killers. Train in a Cessna 150/172 get their license and then buy an expensive sleek sexy fast airplane. Malibu’s are excellent airplanes and safe if you fly them by the numbers. But if you get behind the plane there is no margin for error and you can’t fix it quick enough. Your skill and decision making need to be up to the task.

[@UncleKennysPlace]

@@kengerace If you buy certain planes (and the 'Bu is one of them) your insurance company will require certain training. Gonna guess this guy didn't have insurance.

[@Thinks-First]

Was going to buy a Malibu but I learned that the landing profile was a bit different and because it's high performance I didn't feel as in control. So I just stick with my Arrow 3 which is fast enough, reliable, and basically an extension of me.

[@BH195829]

@@Thinks-First100% - smart move - I have owned an Arrow III and flown a Malibu. The Malibu is a very “restricted” plane - so many “tight”limitations - given its ability to fly in flight levels. I would take the Arrow III any day. 👍👍👍

[@kengerace]

@ an arrow is a great airplane. Have that main spar checked and Eddie current tests done. Flew in a 140 from Florida to Oshkosh and upon return the annual was done. In one year the left side of the spar box was so corroded it crumbled like paper in your hands. They’re getting that old.

[@robertespinal326]

Chad almost crashed on my house! His plane crashed less than a quarter mile from where we live, we heard the crash and thought it was thunder from the storm. We were the ones that provided the FAA with the security camera video of the plane . This is such a terrible tragedy, this man ended up leaving his kids without a mom and a dad.

[@penrynbigbird]

That brief footage is graphic. Thanks for sharing the reality of pilot error...

[@cucuawe465]

Dam, luckily these a$$hole didn't take innocent people's lives. His history records show how much narcissistic about him

[@Logicalsane]

Did you steal his money or something from the crash site?? Be honest

[@micdropfroggyface6466]

No. You have a cartoon as a profile picture. Nothing you say is true. You don’t even live in the same state, county, or county where this happened. People for this all the time. I don’t believe you for a minute.

[@ant1985ish]

Well luckily they didnt hit your home

[@williamdurnal8493]

A pilot for 40 plus years and still consider myself a student. Each debrief is an appreciated lesson. I stopped flying in IMC a dozen years ago because I was not flying enough to maintain an acceptable (to me) level of competence. I'm continually astounded that with all the weather information now available we pilots still find ways to refuse to face reality and defy the laws of physics.

[@daveluttinen2547]

You can bet that this pilot had never flown under the hood so probably had no concept of what techniques apply to flying in turbulent weather. There is nothing more sobering than unusual attitude recovery with partial panel under the hood (unless you are hardball IFR) during training. Get there -itis is a killer. One can have an enjoyable time stopping short safely, not that this guy was safe in any way. Thank you, Hoover, for this debrief.

[@VanderbiltMr]

Assuming he even looked at the weather before leaving.

[@AnotherPilot1]

Hats off to you to "know when to say when".

[@Thinks-First]

Pilot for 25 years and I feel the same way. I still hire instructors if I haven't flown in more than 6 weeks. And I bring safety pilots on board to keep my IFR skills up to par. I'm SEL and Rotocraft rated.

[@juliuspekar7620]

I'm 57, i always said "the only way i would fly is if i built the craft and pilot it myself". Just from what you said i'd fly if you were the pilot. But still i have to build the craft. which you most likely wouldn't want to even get in it , let alone fly the thing. But this is a first for me

[@CardinalDoctor]

I discovered your channel when working on my license earlier this year. Passed my checkride October 7th. I watch all your videos religiously because it helps keep things in perspective. Events like this are why we follow the rules.

[@pibbles-a-plenty1105]

I'd say you are off to a good start. Enjoy and be safe. 🙂

[@CardinalDoctor]

@@pibbles-a-plenty1105 Always. It may be legal but if it's not safe then I'm not going

[@tonyhaynes9080]

And this is why there are old pilots and bold pilots. But there are no old bold pilots.

[@deepspire]

You always handle these cases in a respectful and even reverent manner.

[@mikelomax9957]

In Chad's case I think something like this was pretty much inevitable because 'the rules don't apply to me'. The rules and safety mean nothing if they are ignored. This is yet another tragedy for which there is no excuse.

[@Ea-Nasir_Copper_Co]

From reading up on this man, it sounds as if he was never told "no".

[@roderickcampbell2105]

I completely agree Mike. Some of us live in a world of "No excuses". And some people live in a world where they surround themselves with excuses. Oh, and alcohol and drugs...

[@Slarti]

The rules are made from people who get themselves killed. Chad has himself probably just contributed to those rules.

[@Howie-du7ov]

That's why it is said that most rules and regulations are written in blood.

[@roderickcampbell2105]

@@Howie-du7ov Yes, another rule can be written: Rules can be written in human stupidity and hubris. I am not a pilot. I decided to not make that mistake.

[@PInk77W1]

One of my fav stories is a kid lived next door to a commercial airline pilot. The pilot would take him flying on the weekend once in a while in a Cessna. One day they are at the airport and the pilot gets the plane completely ready to fly and at the last minute he says “I don’t like these clouds, maybe we will go up next weekend” and parks the plane and takes the kid home.

[@timcarr953]

My supervisor used to take me flying on our lunch break. He rented the plane for that time, I made arrangements for someone to cover me for the extra time. Once when we got to the airport he looked at the windsock, talked to someone to get a wind report, and decided not to fly. We were both disappointed, but I'm here to tell the story.

[@JonDrake1]

Great stories. I took my 6 year old to the airfield to fly years ago and there was a minor tech issue with the aircraft that I wasn’t going to accept. When i told him we weren’t going flying his eyes welled up and I so I shared with him the words that I’d heard from wise old pilots…”better to be down here wishing we were up there than up there wishing we were down here”. It’s an oldie but a goodie

[@deaf2819]

Anddddd folks wonder why their kids get molested by “great guys”. Hell to the no idc who the neighbor is. Can’t trust anybody. I know this has nothing to do with said story but just my take.

[@PInk77W1]

@ Life is built on trust

[@andylowe2725]

Wisdom

[@SpypilotSR-71]

The guy couldn't even fill out his logbook correctly! His instructor should have told him that he’s too stupid to be a pilot

[@Yep-y6e]

😂

[@MarksmansBeast2]

LMAOO

[@markhwirth7718]

As a flight instructor I have refused to fly with these types of people ! They have no sense of planing for the worst !

[@paulreilly3904]

Planing for the worst? Do you mean planning? Or is planing a technical term? I'm sorry I'm not a pilot, I'm genuinely confused. Thank you.

[@markhwirth7718]

As a pilot you must be thinking ahead of the airplane at all times! Example; even though your flight is going according to plan you must be thinking of irregularities such as where will I land if the engine quits or were will I land if the weather goes bad ect .

[@paulreilly3904]

@@markhwirth7718 Thank you for taking the time to reply, I understand you point now. Good point. Best wishes.

[@1965myctahg]

@@paulreilly3904 He meant planning for the worst. And he meant etc at the end just like you probably meant "your" point.

[@danferguson2724]

@@markhwirth7718 My little league coach Mr Gilmour taught us the best life lesson ever - ANTICIPATE! Be ready for every possibility.

[@WayneM1961]

By the sound of this guy he shouldn't have been in charge of a cycle let alone an aircraft. This kind of attitude unfortunately leads to an accident sooner rather than later.

[@jtm1283]

Marrying someone from Texas named Chad does deserve punishment, but not the death penalty.

[@JimB1]

Should at least be a felony.

[@beni3743]

@@JimB1😂

[@carpballet]

Very little about this surprises me. Let me clarify. This guy would be a problem in a plane, boat, car, motorcycle, or walking his pit bull, Rottweiler, or German Shepard. Sad for his wife and her family and friends.

[@giggiddy]

100% correct. Im sure you've met them too. This is his profile. A short, high- strung contractor that drives a new F250 that has never anything in the bed. He spends the majority of his time lurking around the halls of government buildings, dropping names, and trying to schmooze any official that can benefit or rule in favor of his business. Thinks everyone believes his fake BS and thinks every secretary wants him. Not an unforseen end.

[@eglide73]

Get ready for all the “Dude! Those dog breeds are no more dangerous than any other!” replies. 😂😂😂

[@sudamericanrockers6616]

@@eglide73 😂🤣

[@beckydoesit9331]

Had a similar thing happen to me. I was flying my husband and myself to Vegas in a 182, just like these guys, when we ran out of fuel shortly leaving the airport out of New Mexico (don't remember the city). Gary died as a result of the crash. Sad. But it didn't stop me from wanting to get back in the clouds. Now I'm remarried in an even better marriage. Almost like the crash was a blessing in disguise!

[@jimcrawford3185]

​@@beckydoesit9331 Uhh, unless l miss my guess, l d say something was just a tad skewed in our friend Becky

[@jbarrer2196]

As a young CFI I was asked to give instruction to a pilot who was on probation by the FAA because he had flown into conditions where he got stuck on top of a cloud layer that closed in all around him. He was a VFR pilot and should have checked the weather before he got trapped. The FAA said if he got instruction and obtained his instrument rating they would let him continue to hold a pilot's license. After talking to him I felt that his anti-authority attitude was too strong for me and said I wouldn't fly with him. Another instructor in our club took him on and he eventually got his instrument rating. a year or so later he crashed in WV due to fuel exhaustion in an area of widespread very low IMC , killing himself and his two daughters. Unfortunately, there is no test for "arrogant malcontent" so guys like this can slip through the cracks.

[@AnotherPilot1]

That was a very wise move you made...kudos!

[@smartysmarty1714]

I do believer your story, but it seems very unconventional for the FAA to punish someone they way you explained for getting trapped on top. At one time or another, most all of us have made a mistake of equal value, and were lucky enough to learn from it and fly again. Can you elaborate a bit more on how his situation unfolded? I'm super curious about this one, as I've seen bigger "violations" overlooked.....thanks!

[@ohwell2790]

I am 80 a stopped flying in 2015 after open heart surgery. Did not need the FAA to pull my license. Common sense is uncommon in this world. Fly within your limits and be safe.

[@jdoe4983]

@@smartysmarty1714 It sounds like it went deeper than that. Getting trapped on top is typically something that wont provoke a 709 ride from the FAA. I bet there was a lot more to that story that the student left out.

[@talreichert587]

That's a terrible story there. As you indicate in your comment, a pilot certificate or an intstrument rating is not a solution for unsafe behavior, it just opens the door for even less safe behavior in the future.

[@terris1958]

I appreciate your efforts to inform people of the danger in flying with pilots that should obviously NOT be taking your life in their hands! I LOVE your new setup, and ALL your informed videos!

[@Joe-mk3ii]

That's what happened to Randy Rhoads

[@RobsNeighbor]

New Studio looks good! Thank you for sharing the stories that can help us all

[@bendrixbailey1430]

Hoover, you missed something very important. I’ve been a GA pilot 50 years and in every accident of this “tragic” variety there is one constant. MANY OTHER PILOTS AND AIRPORT REGULARS PREDICTED IT. The problem is… Pilots are reluctant to report illegal and reckless behavior of other pilots. And sometimes when one does report it, the local FSDO just pats themselves on the back for giving some advice and remedial training and “keeping the pilot flying”. This is nuts. We pilots who are at airports, the mechanics who work on planes, and others who just hang around must actively report illegal and reckless piloting. America is not a “snitch” society, however, certain bad actions are serious enough that citizens are obliged to report them. Errant pilots should be regarded with no more respect than a child molester. A danger to society and to innocent others. Please add the admonition to your Debriefs of this type; “Report errant pilots before they kill someone, or its as much on you as on them.”

[@GeometryEX-hp9zs]

I have always believed that the aviation industry should make their aircraft records public and public. Rather than allowing the people who fly the aircraft to operate in a vacuum, and the relevant technology should be made public. There shouldn't be too many secrets and there shouldn't be too many power gaps.

[@Robutube1]

I'm so glad you commented on this vein - thanks. I'm a non-pilot and did wonder if folk knew what he was up to.

[@afriendlyfaceinthecrowd]

@@bendrixbailey1430 Having had run ins with dangerous pilots-just as a student pilot-I agree. No one wants to be a “snitch” and in this case as in many others, that would have triggered oversight that would have saved lives.

[@neverBragg]

"A snitch society"??? You mean Responsible folks reporting danger & hazardous actions? I prefer the latter. Criminals use the term "snitch", not honest folks. 😂

[@neverBragg]

​​@@afriendlyfaceinthecrowdTo me, only wrongdoers and scaredy cats use the term "snitch". Reporting hazards is the behavior of mature, fearless, principled, RESPONSIBLE individuals.

[@primate4]

This guy was an idiot! We’re all alot safer now that he isn’t flying in the skies.

[@mtlart]

...or driving...or around children

[@lindahoffman2692]

Harsh and Insensitive considering he left 4 Children, but I cannot honestly say your characterization of him is Wrong.

[@BoleDaPole]

Honestly his kids are lucky they weren't in the plane. It was a 6 seater after all.

[@johnvender]

Sadly another case of too much money and not enough brains.

[@kpNov23]

Plenty of brains. Too much ego.

[@atypocrat1779]

more dollars than sense

[@InMyBrz]

MORE MONEY THAN BRAINS HOW THE HELL did he make the money to buy this airplane ? He seems incompetent with about everything

[@davidlang4546]

Exactly what I was thinking as well. Really sad for the family

[@captainsouth4460]

@@InMyBrzprobably family money with his dui history. Trust fund kid

[@pollylewis9611]

Why I watch your videos one might ask, I have flown for years, cert. in serval formats now have had some health issues leaving me unable to pilot any longer. Watching your videos makes the decisions that were made to stop come to life to be safe for all. Thank you, Hoover, I do enjoy all of the hard work you put into your videos, my thoughts and prayers for all that were involved in this horrible incident.

[@DonFatherTrump]

I wonder how many times this man narrowly avoided disaster. The odds catch up to you after a few decades.

[@garyhannie6528]

I never stop learning, and I am always grateful for positive and constructive advice. Thank you again, Hoover.

[@andy347]

If Chad had gotten a weather briefing...it wouldn't have made a bit of difference. He was indestructible.

[@deanmason5827]

I think he proved he was not indestructible just plan stup!d, really stup!d.

[@SilentStrike117]

Darwin Award speed run

[@CFITOMAHAWK2]

indestructible ? LOL>>

[@danpage6044]

He was not smart enough to get a weather briefing. When talking to the weather people he would have shown his ignorance because they would have asked him specific questions which would have shown how inept he was.

[@Argumemnon]

He's _still_ flying that plane. That's how strong his ego was/is.

[@stever3886]

I’m a CFII, and flying for 40 years, still active. I have 3000 hrs plus dual instruction given. I have had at least 3 students, just like this guy. While I get most comments here, I took the opportunity to try and coach/teach these folks about their issues and anti-authority attitudes. What works as a Boss, will get you killed in a plane. I have noticed that most of these arrogant people think they have it “figured out”. I had one that would not change and prove he knew that it was a problem……I basically found myself “not having schedule time for him”. I refused to be part of it. It should NOT be an issue with an instructor to be transparent and honest when safety is an issue.

[@amyheltonwalker]

You are only stating the facts and you are so very respectful. I know that the truth can be hurtful and sad for family members. I understand when you say you hope the family never watches. You are a very kind person.

[@vonRichthoven-dv1gg]

I've noticed he has a lot of compassion for all victims in these Tragedy's, regardless of mistakes, personality, or lack of training.

[@MrWolfSnack]

The families are debriefed by the FAA and investigated for months on end as well as choosing to get a copy of the report when available, they have no need to watch youtubers do true crime reports of their own relatives.

[@amyheltonwalker]

@ I wouldn’t think they would get on KZbin to investigate or do true crime reports.

[@jimw1615]

There really is nothing to add to this story beyond what you have presented, Hoover. This scenario was just another "Dead Pilot Flying", unfortunately.

[@JohnSmith-gb5vg]

Makes you wonder how he was brought up may have had something to do with his grown behavior/attitude.

[@StevenG222]

I have a question, I'm not a pilot so forgive me if it's dumb! Why would he log his flights in his logbook if he was flying illegally?

[@patriot20000]

Sadly, also another dead wife. My husband is a pilot and I have taken lessons. I would Never get in an airplane without seeing someone's license and asking questions (like how many hours in This airplane). Also why we don't go on island hopping little airplanes or go on sightseeing helicopters or airplanes. Just like bad doctors the bad pilots just keep moving on.

[@afriendlyfaceinthecrowd]

@@StevenG222All pilots log their flights to prove flight hours. Students are signed off on by their instructor. How honest Chad was about his hours is a good question.

[@StevenG222]

I apologize, one more and I'll stop pestering you. Is there nothing in place to stop pilots without a license from flying? It seems the the FAA would be on this...

[@stephendenagy3396]

Physician here. The medications are not likely to be contributory. Fluoxetine is actually an acceptable FAA antidepressant. Trazodone is an antidepressant but almost never used in makes for depression, but in low doses for sleep. My strong suspicion is that there were likely other potential diagnoses present that the fluoxetine was not necessarily useful for treating. All addictions are impulsive, it takes effort to get to two felony DUI! He should never have driven any vehicle other than a bicycle. Sad.

[@strnglhld]

Heck, maybe not even the bicycle.

[@JohnKim-py7pv]

Interestingly enough, the man had 5 DUI’s. As the good doctor said, Trazadone is sometimes prescribed off-label for insomnia. The biggest prescribers for such use? Doctors at drug and alcohol rehabilitation centers. Nearly every resident is prescribed either Trazadone or Seroquel (can’t remember the generic name) for sleep. Makes one wonder if Chad had recently visited one.

[@ph5915]

Geez!!! I just can't fathom the sheer disregard this fella exhibited. Sigh. I'm just a VFR pilot of a C172 and I stay on the ground A LOT more than I legit should, but I don't take weather lightly! So sorry for his wife and children.

[@bluskytoo]

im a old AF C-130 FE , Ive been crew on C-130s for 24years, then 10 years on DC-8s , DC-10s. Combat flying in C-130s with people shooting at me didnt scare me as much as bad weather flying. We prepared to bail out one time due to extreme icing !

[@mowtivatedmechanic1172]

Correction… you stay on the ground JUST as you should. Never regret your decision to slide to the safer side. (I’m a corporate pilot if that means anything)

[@johnnunn8688]

@@bluskytooyou carried ‘chutes in C130, DC8 etc? Don’t think so, Walt.

[@bluskytoo]

@ yes in C-130s, 8s and 10s was civilian.

[@rhensontollhouse]

Instrument rated fly Grumman Tiger with lots of IFR in IMC, low overcast or stratus. When t-storms are forecast or may develop I either drive a car or fly commercial.

[@barneykunkel8452]

As a high time rotor wing pilot both military and civilian, I STRONGLY concur with your summary and recommendations. I salute you always for what you have done and what you will do to help our industry. Thank you Hoover. Headhunter 227

[@RikkiestAndTikkiest]

Thanks for not blaming the victim, yet still giving us a learning opportunity to prevent the tragedy that happened to her from happening to us. I feel that thought is lost in these kinds of conversations.

[@guruofendtimes819]

Whos fault was it

[@EllsworthJohnson-ui1xm]

Not sure who the 'victim' was, surely not the pilot

[@SodaPoppet]

​@EllsworthJohnson-ui1xm The wife of the pilot. We have no idea if she knew the risks or not, but either way, it was Chad's irresponsibility that led to her death.

[@PInk77W1]

An airline got a brand new plane type. They scheduled a VIP ride for the mayor and many other prominent people. The CEO of the airline was on board as were 2-3 reporters. At the last moment the pilot canceled the flight because something wasn’t making sense to him. A reporter told the CEO “you gonna let him just cancel us like that?” The CEO said “We don’t question our pilots when it comes to safety”

[@masonmcglothlin5101]

Which airline?

[@drmoynihan]

Which Boeing Aircraft?

[@erock.steady]

who's the CEO?

[@feldon27]

If this happened it was a long time ago.

[@PInk77W1]

@ Was Herb Kelleher

[@davidp2888]

He was “anti-authority” and on meds. Not always a good combination.

[@TruthwillPrevail7938]

The trazadone is for sleeping and the other an antidepressant, anti anxiety common med. It wasnt a factor in my opinion, he was a statistic Going to happen and the Odds were against him Spoiled trip to "Sin City", instead Eternal Fate sealed.

[@gilkennedy7638]

Anti-authority is a big word here in this context, usually the more authority mean less freedom, and flying is a feeling a freedom for a lot of pilot, that sound's like a subject of a long conversation

[@SteveToes-b4f]

He wore her pantyhose

[@ninjalectualx]

@steve literally nothing wrong with cross-dressing. I'd have MORE respect for him if he did but he is obviously too conservative for anything fun

[@ninjalectualx]

@david being on his meds was a GOOD thing, what are you talking about

[@OutsideGalaxy]

A prime example of more money than sense. A tragic but seemingly inevitable outcome when you have so much over inflated confidence and so little regard for others. I hate that he hurt others, not only his wife but the people who had to deal with the situation while it was happening and clean up after.

[@Jungleboy-z4c]

Money can be a fun tool, deadly for stupid people though.

[@ValerieBailey-y9u]

Yes, just like buying your 16 year old a 3rd BMW after he/she has already wrecked 2 drunk driving.

[@ninjalectualx]

Money can't buy happiness, but you can sure use it to make others miserable

[@Jungleboy-z4c]

@ it always backfires on the predator if you stay around long enough.

[@jcampbell2481]

Yes Trump is very stupid and his days are numbered!

[@marketdetective]

Can be a fun tool? Your entire life revolves around it wether you want lots of it or think it’s taboo 😅

[@pilot-debrief]

There is nothing wrong with a student pilot flying with a commercial pilot who is licensed and qualified to serve as PIC. The problem is when a student pilot flies an aircraft solo without the proper training, endorsement, or medical certificate. Want to see another video like this? Watch the 18-yr-old student pilot whose rogue flight was his last👉 kzbin.info/www/bejne/oHTYYqyhhrN1psU You can also watch ALL my student pilot videos here: 👉 kzbin.info/aero/PLq7-qTFjklJ54NvVX8xYCsVIhdlWjcsyZ

[@msromike123]

Sure, but you can't log any time. Right?

[@RetiredEE]

Hoover, are you noticing an increase/decrease in the quality of ATC? Either in-training or experienced. Obviously unrelated to this pilot's flaunting of the rules. New studio looks great 👍

[@ChristianWilliamsYachting]

Forty-seven hours total and he's flying a Malibu? Did I hear that right?

[@DaedricFaZe]

Bought, like a getting a divers permit with a Mustang

[@WobblesandBean]

​@@DaedricFaZe More like a McLaren.

[@MarksmansBeast2]

@@WobblesandBean I’ve flown in multiple small sanguine planes and going from a Cessna to a piper Malibu is literally like going from a mustang to a NASCAR supercharged beast

[@lc4011]

He orphaned his own children but at least he didn't kill them by taking them along. RIP Brandy

[@crakkbone]

Dude was straight up evil. There’s no excuse for this level of negligence.

[@redfoxsecurity3334]

Since he was a REPEAT DUI OFFENDER, that makes him a 💩 tier person and therefore his children are better off without him. His children can use the 💰 they inherited to hire a replacement parent 😅

[@lc4011]

@@crakkbone Yeah, I think it's called criminal negligence and deliberate indifference.

[@MrWolfSnack]

@@redfoxsecurity3334 100% bet money his repeat DUI's cost him his motor vehicle license so he googled how to get around that and google told him to buy an airplane.

[@kerrynight3271]

I just read his obituary. His longtime friend said Chad was the greatest family man he had ever known. Yeah. Sure he was.

[@janegardener1662]

Very sad. A combination of arrogance and incompetence led to this disaster.

[@willhutchcraft2792]

I’m glad you are making these videos even though they can be difficult. People need to know these things. The good and the bad.

[@robinross568]

I wonder if his wife knew that the flight was illegal, that his medical was denied, that he was not adequately trained to fly solo. Extra heartbreaking if he’d lied about it, so she was not able to make an informed decision regarding this risk to her kids.

[@Ea-Nasir_Copper_Co]

I don't think most people would.

[@miskatonic6210]

She knew what kind of guy she married. Any sane person would know he wasn't made to fly.

[@theresavancamp7575]

If my husband had been a pilot we would not have flown together. I will never understand why parents would fly together even if there is only a "one in a million fatal crash" Risk. Children deserve better. One parent surviving will keep a grieving child out of foster care, be it family or strangers.

[@CatsClaw44]

​@miskatonic6210 No offense, but you don't know and neither do the people who liked your post. You are the perfect example of someone who blames the victim. Most times victims don't know.

[@InnocentPotato-pd7wi]

I wonder if he had a huge life insurance policy on his wife's life???🤔🤔🤔Anger issues????. 🤔🤔🤔🤨🤨🙄🙄🙄😳😳😳

[@oxxnarrdflame8865]

Interesting that he was so honest on his medical application.

[@mikesebphoto]

Guy like this probably figured he could somehow slide through or maybe bully someone to get his way. He was probably shocked when the FAA told him “no”.

[@YouMatter-UDo]

I feel it may be because most folks don't realize the danger those psych drugs themselves can cause as far as judgment and behavior. Few docs even know how they will interact with each other, yet they still prescribe them like candy with little follow up. Their side effects could explain much of the weird behavior we see in general society now. I wish someone would track the rise in misbehavior with those kinds of drugs. Not sure if this guy even took any, but chances are he did from his background info.

[@_Jester_]

They would have probably found out anyways

[@robvale1]

Meds get a bad wrap. When used judiciously, as prescribed, and follow the “12 hour from bottle to throttle “ rule (longer if its a really long acting med, mine aren’t and while CAN cause issues, been taking them for so long, no effect on me, and I even DRIVE like I fly…..SAFELY, even more so with passengers)

[@darkarima]

For what it's worth, the fluoxetine and trazodone have *nothing* to do with him being an egotistical blowhard who knew better than anyone who told him "No". They're *antidepressants.* Depression and risk-taking behavior are almost polar opposites, unless it's someone intentionally planning suicide. The trazodone is a little concerning for being sedating, but had nothing to do with him being an idiot. The 5 DUIs say 1000x more about his personality than the antidepressants.

[@ChosenWon]

I wouldn't say a Cessna 182 is commonly used from primary flight training, A Cessna 172 is used. There's a big difference between the two.

[@BillSmith-rx9rm]

I was thinking the same thing.

[@SF-ww9xe]

moot point considering this story

[@Nicksonian]

Hoover, you always present your videos with the utmost in respect and sensitivity. As a retired journalist, I applaud your ability to relate complex information in easily understandable language. Your videos are expertly written and well presented. Keep up the great work.

[@hirisk761]

anti-authority and flying don't mix. how many aviation accidents have we seen because the pilots ego got involved?

[@JBliehall]

good point

[@CruceEntertainment]

27

[@TheHaratashi]

Chad was incredibly irresponsible and unprofessional. Never should have been in the air. I don't think he should even be cleared to drive a car.

[@jimgandee2570]

Hoover, excellent presentation! As a CFII I have witnessed the anti-authority personality types and have attempted to council several with limited success. Presentations like yours are invaluable to share with other pilots to help remind us all that none of us are infallible. Good judgement and ADM are absolutely mandatory and in this game we all need to play for keeps!

[@SoloRenegade]

I refuse to instruct such people. one of my first students as a new CFI i refused to continue training.

[@Capecodham]

You love buzz words.

[@afriendlyfaceinthecrowd]

@@jimgandee2570 What has been your experience training the converse type? In other words, a low-hour (edit: student) pilot who understands and follows the rules to a T but lacks confidence. I’m genuinely curious.

[@jimgandee2570]

@@afriendlyfaceinthecrowd confidence is bolstered by training and experience. Choose your CFI’s carefully and vett them as you would a physician. A good CFI will teach you the skills that will improve your ability and therefore your confidence. Experience can be garnered by flying more often by yourself and to unfamiliar airports. You can also fly with others, watching them and learning, it all adds up in your experience column. Join and participate in various pilot clubs, groups and organizations. Sign up for the “Wings” program and work on the various stages. Hope this helps.

[@afriendlyfaceinthecrowd]

@@jimgandee2570 Excellent advice, I thank you kindly for your time! What countries does the "Wings" program operate in?

[@susanmoore7229]

Poor decision making and impulse control. I know a couple of men with those characteristics. One jumped on a racetrack with me in the back while I was pregnant. I told him I’d never ride with him again. Thank goodness he wasn’t a pilot! I feel awful for their children. Excellent debrief. Thanks

[@InMyBrz]

the kids are possibly glad they don't have to deal with this guy any longer

[@freddyrassinger8198]

It may just be a characteristic of English women but I have known few who did not display poor decision making and impulse control even without the effects of medicines.

[@TheMrdhyde]

These videos are so good. The families and friends can watch but wouldn't say they should. These are needed like you said for those that want to be or are pilots. Also aviation lovers, flight simmers such as myself. However pilots really need these. Maybe even require 10 hours of watching these kinds of things in pilot training. You do a great service with these videos please keep em coming.

[@mikevidovich8311]

Thank You for making these accurate videos , as a 30 year GA aviation mechanic, They are important for us all to learn and help each other in our great aviation industry.

[@donniecole3472]

Have been flying for a major US airline for 39 years been flying airplanes for 50 years. I certainly appreciate the work you do educating old pilots and new pilots.

[@ninjalectualx]

Scary that an airline would hire mentally unstable people! I hope I never end up on your plane 😬 You literally have all the same mental deficiencies that the pilot in the video does! Get MAGA out of aviation

[@FernandoFlores-xi3mh]

You are blessed...i wish i could say the same. It was my dream to be a commercial pilot I had to quit my flight training for lack of funds. I made it as far as my IFT written test....and that was about 10 years ago. Happy to see ppl living the dream.

[@steve83333]

Hoover, you are absolutely top notch in every way when it comes to reviewing these aviation incidences.

[@Dan-xo9ly]

Too much money, no patience and no sense.

[@rotorheadv8]

As a former Marine Corps aviator and flight instructor, guys like him wouldn’t even be considered for aviation training.

[@SteveToes-b4f]

You are loser Tim walz

[@JBliehall]

No according to some of the uneducated posters here that believe the FAA was wrong and should have let him continue to fly. Then "It all would have worked out fine." REALLY?

[@johnnunn8688]

I’d hope he wouldn’t even qualify for USMC infantry; can’t follow authority would be a clue.

[@SteveToes-b4f]

@JBliehall yes pee brain

[@SteveToes-b4f]

@johnnunn8688 he wore pantyhose to death

[@kayeman001]

As an av geek, and aspirant pilot (12 hours on a 152, solo on a Falke SF 25 motorised glider, solo on a glider and 2 hours short of my HPPL - couldnt complete due to Covid shutting down the school and destroying my savings), I really enjoy your debriefs and try to learn from every single video - please keep it up! As I couldn't finish my HPPl and now cant afford too, I have started gliding (most affordable) to maintain and improve my airmanship - I just want to learn as much as possible and be the best, safest pilot I can be

[@neddles33]

that poor trainee controller. her supervisor should have been monitoring more closely, and now she has to live with it forever.

[@mowtivatedmechanic1172]

Pfh!!! Not her fault. Coulda done better but then again another pilot picking up that plane on TCAS and using nextrad/sat WX coulda barked an order too. At the end of the day this is on the PIC of the aircraft.

[@rranger1014]

Nice sentiment, however the loss was inevitable as stated. ATC or no ATC

[@thomasdalton1508]

​@@mowtivatedmechanic1172It not being her fault is not going to make her feel any better about it.

[@thomasdalton1508]

​@@rranger1014That's not going to make her feel any better about it.

[@ninjalectualx]

I know someone who unalived a guy who jumped in front of his car intentionally. The driver had absolutely no responsibility but still has PTSD, because he unalived someone.

[@patriot20000]

Love the lighting in your office. Looks like 2 jets flying in the sunrise!

[@HittokiriBatosai]

I will never understand low hour private pilots flying their family around. The hubris is unreal.

[@MJBclassics]

I love your debriefs, and I'm not a pilot at all! So glad I found your channel. Very interesting!

[@KimtheElder]

So many of us say the same. 👍

[@jerrylukens9314]

Well done Hoover, no matter how tragic your information on story being told could save future lives and is knowledge gained. Thanks for the video.

[@encinobalboa]

The guy sounds like a first class jerk. RIP to his wife and to the aircraft that he wrecked.

[@dhouse-d5l]

Meds for "anger and irritability"???? There it is right there. Ok he was grounded but wouldn't ATC know something... deny access, prevent him from taking off even?

[@ValerieBailey-y9u]

He was declined medical fitness and should not have been flying.

[@thomasdalton1508]

Nobody cleared him. That's the point. He never received a medical. He never received sign off to fly solo (which requires a medical). He never received sign off to carry passengers (which requires a full license). The system worked to not give someone unsuitable permission to fly. He just did it anyway.

[@MuffinCHeeler]

Fluoxetine is Prozac. It's an anti-depressant. It "can" be used for anger and irtrabiliity, but this had to be put in the video for dramatic effect. The pilot seems to be an a-hole, drunk, anti-authority, and not qualified, etc. This med is an SSRI which the FAA is now allowing under SI. To imply that the reason it was prescribed was for that is irresponsible.

[@thomasdalton1508]

@@joeshmooo5327 He didn't have it pulled. He could still have flown as a student with an instructor sat next to him. He was just never cleared to fly solo (and couldn't be without a medical).

[@vasilivh]

Nobody was able to stop this guy from driving under the influence multiple times (aside from the time he spent in jail), nobody would have been able to stop him from taking off. At some point, people have their own responsibility to not do stupid things, and some people will insist on doing stupid things anyway, you can't stop them all the time. Granted, more oversight would still be useful, if there are enough obstacles in the way, some people will choose some other stupid thing to do instead (that is hopefully less lethal).

[@shibasurfing]

I’ve always wanted to learn to fly. Your simple (in a good way) debriefs of these GA mishaps have really helped me come to terms with the fact that my disability means that I should never be a pilot. Thank you, truly. ETA: There’s always the simulator! I’ve got a great flight panel setup and it’s a ton of fun.

[@OnceShy_TwiceBitten]

What is the disability? Depending on it, you probably still could.

[@ValerieBailey-y9u]

Me too I'm intellectually fit enough and physically capable but my vision, though correctable, is just not good enough on it's own. Not even to be a truck driver in my country. I still found an awesome and fulfilling career for 50 years in healthcare. And enjoy an independent retirement, often traveling by air. (Love going on the A380).

[@KimtheElder]

The simulator sounds like a blast. Enjoy it and maybe make a channel for us to watch!

[@attornurse1]

I’m not a pilot but I love your analysis and I STILL learn a lot . Your explanations are so clear that a person with NO flying experience makes so much sense . Thank you

[@sgtbaxman6720]

Hoover, love the “set” you are in today. Thanks for another great, educational video!

[@jimdavis1939]

Man, I don't know where to start with this one. Arrogance, complete lack of judgement, operating an aircraft illegally, no relevant experience, total lack of regard for the safety of his family and others. This guy was headed directly for disaster from the outset of his aviation journey. The outcome here was a foregone conclusion. The tragedy is that he killed his wife and orphaned his children. I sometimes say that accidents like this are preventable, but in the case of this guy I'm not so sure, it was only a matter of time. As an aside, and it's not important now, but I do have to wonder how in the world he was able to insure a Malibu given his complete lack of credentials and documented experience. Great job Hoover, I hope that viewing this video might save some lives going forward.

[@AviWazana]

I really like your work here. This clip makes me so upset for so many reasons. One thing you may want to mention to people is that pilot info is public. They can check if they are active and what license, rating and medical they have. Allows the public to confirm what they are told.

[@jackd.ripper9216]

5 Hazardous Attituds: Invulnerability, Anti-Authority, Macho, Resignation, Impulsivity. Chad, a fitting name for a man who exhibited all the hazardous attitudes that get pilots killed.

[@rranger1014]

EXACTLY

[@aawillma]

Toxic masculinity is a way overused term at this point but if someone asked me to demonstrate what it means, I'd probably just send them this video. Plenty of reckless dipshit lady pilots out there but this guy goes so far beyond that it's unreal.

[@superb63amg94]

Again, pilots like Chad had no business flying. BTW, I love your new studio. Awesome!

[@stevestreet2825]

Lost a close friend back in the day same thing high risk guy 17:16

[@ryanprice748]

I remember the first time I rented a 152 and flew the pattern alone. This was just after my instructor signed me off to solo. I brought my girlfriend and she SAT ON THE TARMAC AND WATCHED. Sneaking her into the passenger seat never even crossed my mind. Not an option. Play by the rules. I knew eventually she would be able to come with me. Just be patient.

[@Trail_Trash]

ATC not a factor in my opinion, pilot was an idiot that could not be helped

[@EllsworthJohnson-ui1xm]

Absolutely agree, ATC could have been more involved, but had zero requirements to be and since it was a trainee, definitely not part of the problem.

[@Canadianguy-d5d]

WHY not point out THE FACT that air traffic control in the U.S. the past few years HAS MANDATED DEI training and hire. MOST could NOT PASS the exam so it was changed... AND CHANGED again.... till they were able to pass. GOOD LUCK.

[@PerkinrBR549]

The Cessna 182 is considered a complex a/c. It's not a retractable but they did at one Time make it with retractable gear. But it has a constant speed propeller. It is used for IFR training but not student pilot training because it requires specific training and a sign-off from a CFI for type. You should have passed your Private pilot written exam and then pass the Private pilot check ride before even using it as a training platform for Private pilot.

[@ruthiemay423]

Thank you for another excellent debrief without a commercial!!!

[@oceanheadted]

Thank you for the video, I feel very sorry for the air traffic controllers who experiences this accident, and Chad and Brandy’s family.

[@katherinekhan6892]

Las Vegas!! Isn’t that like a student driver heading into Downtown Manhattan?

[@herbertshallcross9775]

Las Vegas was a lot quieter than usual during the pandemic. Might not have been a complete madhouse.

[@katherinekhan6892]

@ Good point. Timing is everything.

[@RamphizValle]

No. More like downtown Manila.

[@monsenrm]

One slight correction. The Cessna 182 is not “commonly used for flight training.” It is considered high performance and requires an endorsement. If you said 172, I agree. In fact, you can train AND get a PPL in any aircraft, including a P-51. Legally, yes, but we know that it is practically impossible.

[@thomasdalton1508]

Yes, that stood out to me, too. It's commonly used for training on complex aircraft but not for ab initio training. He definitely wasn't ready for it.

[@christophergagliano2051]

@@thomasdalton1508 I don't think it was the airplane that killed him, It's pretty obvious that he didn't understand the dynamics of unstable weather. Some people think that because of rain it is stable, and that is far from the case. Rain creates lots of turbulence, even moisture gathering and a cumulus cloud creates lots of turbulence and most pilots don't know that, and for sure most students don't know that whatsoever, and that's a fact

[@thomasdalton1508]

@@christophergagliano2051 Absolutely. The fact that he was flying planes that were too advanced for him is just evidence of his poor judgment. It didn't really impact the flight. The fact that he was going faster than he would have been in, say, a Cessna 152 may have meant he had less time to realise he was flying into bad weather and less time to do something about it before it was too late, but I doubt a few extra seconds would have changed anything.

[@christophergagliano2051]

@@thomasdalton1508 thank you so much for your input. I think the main takeaway is that it really doesn't matter what airplane you're in, what matters is thinking ahead two or three hours before your flight even begins. Specifically you have got to understand that mother nature, I'm talking thunderstorms must be avoided at all cost. Even the airliners avoid them. I doubt if his instructors even got to the point of avoiding bad weather because he was only training to be a private pilot. But it's most important to emphasize to students that these weather systems must be avoided at all costs, and that's a fact

[@Crish-mo4mf]

I had to get checked out on the 182 hp rg before i could rent and fly it

[@RedNightDragon1]

"He was on medication for anger ..." Tells me all I need to know.

[@JohnKim-py7pv]

Probably got cut off by another plane and let “air rage” get the best of him. End result - he augered in to Mother Earth

[@mikemontgomery8101]

Another excellent Pilot Debrief...thanks Hoover! And love the new "set".

[@ValerieBailey-y9u]

Never mind his irresponsible behavior as a pilot, what about his utter disregard for his responsibility a husband and father ?

[@YouMatter-UDo]

For sure. I worked with a guy who was just starting to rise in the regional motorcycle road racing ranks. He and I rode sometimes with other coworkers. When his second child came along he and his wife agreed he would hang up his racing and just do road bike riding. He hated leaving that progress on the table, but understood how dangerous it could be to continue into the even more competitive ranks. I admired him more for having that good sense than his track accomplishments.

[@davidsuttles101]

I’ve been in jets and some cloud build ups were higher than us… we were at 45,000ft….

[@davidsuttles101]

Nature win’s every time…

[@LivingOnCash]

I check the weather before I take a road trip in a car. I can't understand why anyone flying wouldn't bother to check when it is literally a life or death matter.

[@kengerace]

Right? I do the same regarding a road trip and check periodically. I’m three times a vigilant when flying.

[@thepurpleufo]

No one but no one creates these debriefs with the clarity and the compassion you do. You make every one of these a great learning experience. Thanks so much.

[@Gearlube_chain_wax_solutions]

As a CFI, I had to checkout a guy one day, who wanted to rent a Cessna Cardinal the next day and fly it from Belgium to Spain. He showed up in shorts and sandals and didn't bring any charts or preparation with him. When asked if he had previously flown this type of aircraft, he said he had several hours in the type, but when asked for proof in his logbook, he could not produce it. During the preflight, he had no idea where the fuel strainers were located on the aircraft, so I got more and more suspicious about the guy. I told him that we would fly to a nearby airport to perform some touch and go's. Immediately after takeoff he took his feet of the pedals and put them on the floor. When I asked him why he did that, he said he never used them in flight. Long story short. We never got to the airport, because he got lost and we almost ended up in military airspace. That's when I told him to fly back, but that didn't work out either. After landing I told him that I was not going to sign him off and that he could not rent the airplane. He got really mad and told us that we were only interested in getting his money. Sometimes you just have to stand your ground when you encounter reckless people like this guy.

[@kendrapratt2098]

If you were only interested in his money, you would have let take off! What kind of reasoning was that? Sheesh!

[@suzannep8371]

He lacked self discipline and control. We all need to be able to take orders and follow instruction in our workplace sadly Chad felt that he knew it all. So sorry for the children and families left behind.

[@windgods1414]

Sincere condolences. Proof that just having money doesn't make you necessarily smart at everything.

[@MoominDoogie]

In my experience people with money are only smart at the thing that makes them money but incredibly stupid at everything else. Don't ever think money makes someone good or intelligent.

[@john8451]

@@MoominDoogieLook at Trump!

[@Capecodham]

condolences to who?

[@mowtivatedmechanic1172]

@@Capecodhamthe kids

[@Capecodham]

@@mowtivatedmechanic1172 I generally have found that people who offer condolences to people who will never see them are really saying, "look at me, I care."

[@HolladayAviation]

Great job on this one, Hoover. Appreciate your channel!

[@JimCTSCLO]

Respect your work. IMHO, best debrief around.

[@reneecarter6702]

His poor wife probably had no clue that he was uncertified, incompetent and incapable of flying... *Also, the new studio is 🔥 👌

[@baileyjohn5010]

Poor Chad … too honest with the FAA and likely too dishonest with his wife

[@Capecodham]

By far the best channel for aircraft events.

[@SteveToes-b4f]

It sucks like u

[@Capecodham]

@@SteveToes-b4f I love how people like you who cower behind they keyboard are keyboard warriors, tough guy.

[@SteveToes-b4f]

@Capecodham blow me.kid

[@SteveToes-b4f]

@@Capecodham suck my pepperoni

[@jacquesparadis6756]

Hi Hoover! Great reporting. Thank you for your excellent work. Jack here, CFI for 27 years. GA aviation pilots are self policing and not all are able to do that. There is also a syndrome where many people in aviation surrounding rule breakers won’t report irregularities because they are afraid of retaliation from the denounced. I’ve seen for the past 27 years numerous wannabe pilots who are just unfit for this. Being a pilot caries a great responsibility, that said, for ab initio pilots, prior to being admitted to training, the FAA/TC might start looking at tightening up the rules regarding the attribution of a student pilot permit. Further more, for each flight outside 25 nm, if one is talking to ATC and if a proper flight plan hasn’t been filed with a valid pilot license number, the flight gets reported right away and the pilot flying put on notice. I know this wouldn’t prevent fraudulent pilots from circumventing the rules, but it might dissuade some and maybe save some lives in the air and on the ground.

[@janvanhaaster2093]

How many cases like this do you know? Why making again more work and more bureaucracy for the extreme rare cases? I guess there are also pilots who fly under the influence of alcohol, would you then suggest all planes mandated to have a breathaliser?

[@jacquesparadis6756]

@ Yes… true… the industry is already regulation heavy and it’s impossible to cover all angles. Somewhere, we still need to rely on the assumption that the majority of pilots will abide to regulations (and common sense). A year ago, a plane crash occurred in our area involving a solo student pilot performing unauthorized manoeuvres over his friend’s house over a residential area. He plunged into the backyard. He and is unauthorized passenger were severely burned and are crippled for life. I fly 4 times a day (and night) teaching at an aviation college and it gives me great sorrow when I learn about plane crashes even more when students are involved. I understand and agree that adding more rules and fail safe mechanism would be impractical.

[@jmy6050]

40 hours logged flight experience and he's flying a pressurized Malibu? At 40 hours I was hands full with a Cherokee Warrior.

[@rebeccamoon5766]

I wish I could learn to fly but I know I would never get approved for a medical certificate and it's way too expensive just to take lessons without any path forward. It's a shame, but that's the way it is and the rules exist for a reason. I'm taking up aviation photography instead. It's so unfortunate that people get in over their heads and overcommit by buying aircraft when they aren't fit and/or proficient, and ultimately very selfish. While Brandy is not to blame for the accident, she should have known better than to fly with him. It's sad they didn't stop to consider their children first.

[@ulbuilder]

There is ultralight and light sport that do not require a medical. While limited to smaller airplanes and a single passenger it is still quite fun! Provided you can comply with the following, copied from the FAA website, this might be an option for you: Sport pilots may not use a current and valid U.S. driver’s license in lieu of a valid airman medical certificate if they know or have reason to know of any medical condition that would make them unable to operate a light-sport aircraft in a safe manner.

[@KimtheElder]

Aviation photography will bless so many people! Double the happiness of taking the photos and of providing beauty to others. Thank you.

[@P381paulmc]

Love the new studio look - keep up the good work !!